/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/04/27/#xubuntu.txt

demon_knome, i fixed it00:11
demon_now00:11
demon_XUBUNTU IS DAMN GOOD :)00:12
Persihi there, having a problem here00:12
Persionce the jaunty was released, theres a delay before all the program start00:13
Persithe system is responsive in general00:13
Persibut for some reason I have to wait for like 15 seconds before even small programs appear00:13
Persilooks like a rant, anybodyhere?00:13
Persi:(00:14
Persiok next time00:14
SiDidemon_, knome's gone be00:14
SiDibed *00:14
demon_knome, are ya here00:27
demon_:)00:27
demon_still the same problem i need to sudo pon dsl-provider every time i log in how can i fix this00:28
porter1Anyone know if there's a setting for XFCE to disable GTK panel icons?01:04
porter1In OpenOffice in XFCE, none of my icons are showing up, just tekt01:04
* SiDi doesn't know, sorry.01:08
porter1No problem. I just coudve sworn there was a menu somewhere for it01:09
mykevelliI downloaded and extracted a Theme.  do I just need to drop the folder into the user/share/themes folder to make it show on the prefences > themes list?01:12
porter1Yen, or more easily, you can throw it into .themes in your home folder01:14
porter1yes*01:14
porter1Make sure to unzip it of course01:14
mykevelliright right01:14
mykevelliwhat if I don't have  a .themes folder in my home folder?01:15
SiDimykevelli, create it01:15
SiDimkdir .themes01:15
mykevelliok :)  i didnt want to assume it was that easy01:15
SiDi;)01:15
SiDisame for .fonts, .icons, btw ;p01:16
mykevelliawesome it worked01:16
mykevelliout of curiosity, I wasn't able to move the theme i downloaded to usr/share/themes (i didnt have an optino to paste) can you think of why?01:17
porter1You don't have proper premissions01:17
kebpermissions01:17
porter1You can always sudo ... to get it in there though01:17
mykevelliok excellent01:17
psychicanyone know of a firefox alternative for xubuntu01:18
psychic??01:18
mykevellii kinda figured it would prompt for an admin pswd if i didnt have permissions01:18
psychicits eating up my computer01:18
mykevellithanks for the help\ though01:18
porter1psychic, epiphany, konqueror01:18
psychicwhich is the lighter?01:18
kebi'm finding a proliferation of .folders in my home dir.  is there some kind of file system standard for xubuntu that apps are following or is it haphazard01:18
porter1epiphany runs great actually01:18
porter1keb, it's nomal.01:18
porter1It allows each user to have their own app settings01:19
psychicu upgrade to 9.04..?01:19
keblynx and elinks are pretty light too01:19
kebyes but shouldnt some of these be inside a .gtk or .gnome folder01:19
psychicporter1 do u know a terminal comman to it?get01:19
porter1You can always press Ctrl+h to make them go away if you don't want to see them01:19
psychicget it*01:19
porter1sudo apt-get install epiphany-browser01:20
porter1UIt's *technically* the default browser fr Gnome01:21
porter1But Firefox trompped through and kind of knocked it of it's pedastal01:21
kebpsychic sudo apt-get install epiphany01:21
porter1keb, wrong app01:21
porter1For some reason that's for some other thing01:22
n2diya while back my desktop changed to a light blue, and no longer displays devices that have been automounted.. Is there a way to revert back to the original desktop config?01:22
porter1Would reinstalling xfdesktop help?01:23
keblol ok01:23
kebsorry01:23
porter1It might, I'm not sure actually01:23
kebweird name conflict01:23
kebn2diy i cant even change the desktop background color anymore01:23
kebi always get this with sudo since 9.04 pam_mount(pam_mount.c:100): unknown pam_mount option "use_first_pass"01:24
psychicanyone know how to clear a swap01:24
psychic?01:24
psychicdo files build up in it like cache files do?01:25
SiDikeb, about your desktop background01:25
n2diykeb, I didn't change anything, and I'm still running 8.04.01:25
SiDisudo chown yourname .config/xfce4 -R ?01:25
kebSiDi all the files and folders in there are owned.grouped by me01:28
psychickeb u know anything abou swap?01:28
SiDikeb, dunno then :P01:29
porter1psychic, best to leave swap to itself01:29
psychici would but i installed it01:29
kebpsychic you shouldnt need to, but you can always do a swapoff and swapon01:29
psychicso now i have to know01:29
porter1install swap?01:29
psychicwell my ram is at 50% of 512 mgb and my swap is drained?01:30
psychicno i need to know if i set swap up right01:30
porter1did you install kubuntu the regular way?01:30
porter1If you did, it should be working just fine01:30
kebswap will be automatically freed up as you close programs01:32
kebespecially firefox01:32
keband each time you reboot01:32
mikubuntuaccckkk!!!  is flash sound not working 'everywhere', or just here on my box?01:37
SiDimikubuntu, kill pulse audio, remove flash/gnash, reinstall flash, and you're done01:41
mikubuntumy sound was working fine yesterday, now all messed up, is anybody else experiencing any sound probs with youtube?01:42
mikubuntuSidi, so this has been going on today?01:42
SiDiDid you upgrade to 9.04 or installed GNOME / Ubuntu / Kubuntu / KDE  / PulseAudio ?01:42
mikubuntui haven't done any upgrades01:42
mikubuntujust updates01:42
SiDimikubuntu, under Ubuntu, Flash is known to have sound trouble with PulseAudio. And we don't use PulseAudio under Xubuntu :)01:42
SiDiShow me the output of  "ps aux | grep pulse" please01:43
mikubuntuk, hold on01:43
parents_trying to set mplayer as the default dvd player so it starts up when I put in a movie, this is how far I have gotten and it's not working. I went into Settings>Removable Drives and Media>Mutilmedia tab then I set the comand for Video CD'/DVD's as this "/usr/bin/mplayer /cdrom" AND IT'S NOT WORKING!!!01:43
mikubuntu1001      6107  0.0  0.6  28480  3108 ?        Sl   Apr24   1:05 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --log-target=syslog01:45
mikubuntu1001      6110  0.0  0.3   5672  1572 ?        S    Apr24   0:00 /usr/lib/pulseaudio/pulse/gconf-helper01:45
mikubuntu1001      9332  0.0  0.1   3008   776 pts/0    R+   20:44   0:00 grep pulse01:45
mikubuntumikubuntu@marybuntu-desktop:~$01:45
SiDiOkey, then the evil pulseaudio is running.01:46
SiDikill -9 6107 && kill -9 6110 will get rid of it.01:46
mikubuntuaaaaahhhh, and how do we off his head01:46
mikubuntuso i'm just doing a 'killall', or uninstall?01:47
SiDiIt's usually launched by totem, the video reader, and a few other GNOME apps that find it funny to read only GNOME's settings. You can remove pulseaudio from synaptic if you don't want this kind of trouble01:47
SiDiXubuntu will work fine without pulseaudio, and so should every app01:47
mikubuntuthis box actually running ubuntu, will it work fine as well?01:47
SiDimikubuntu, ahem01:48
SiDiWhat i said was for xubuntu :P01:48
SiDiNot for ubuntu01:48
SiDiif you use ubuntu, then check for tutorials on how to get Flash to work with Pulseaudio01:48
mikubuntuso i might not want to uninstall?01:48
SiDiit's safer to keep pulse there, because many GNOME apps want it, and you'll have trouble at the next upgrade if you remove it01:49
mikubuntu:(01:49
SiDi:)01:49
mikubuntuok, but for this session, you say just do a killall -9 6107 && kill -9 6110 ?01:50
SiDikill -9 those two processes yeh01:50
SiDiit'll shut pulseaudio down01:50
mikubuntuwill killall pulseaudio work?01:51
mykevelliwhat directory do wallpaper images need to be moved into to select them in the Desktop Settings list?01:51
parents_trying to set mplayer as the default dvd player so it starts up when I put in a movie, this is how far I have gotten and it's not working. I went into Settings>Removable Drives and Media>Mutilmedia tab then I set the comand for Video CD'/DVD's as this "/usr/bin/mplayer /cdrom" Anyone have a clue how to get this working?01:52
SiDiparents_, isn't it "mplayer dvd://" ?01:53
SiDimykevelli, you have a '+' button there to add wallpapers :)01:53
SiDimykevelli, by default there's a .xml file somewhere in ~/.config/xfce4" that contains the wallpapers01:54
mykevellidangit.  im failing hardcore on the obvious stuff01:54
mykevellilol, thanks SiDi01:54
SiDimykevelli, you're welcome01:56
parents_SiDi: I will try that02:04
mykevelliI've noticed i get really slow internet speeds when i connect via wireless.  any ideas how I would troubleshoot that?02:07
SiDiIt's wireless, you know :P02:07
SiDiput your router nearer, kick your neighboors from it, too02:08
saltmiserwhat sort of wireless?02:08
mykevelliSiDi, I mean really slow :/ i think the best i've ever gotten was about 75 kB/s02:09
mykevellisaltmiser, what do you mean, what sort?  I think its 802.11B if thats what you mean02:10
SiDiAnd with a wired connection ?02:10
SiDioh,  B is old02:10
SiDivery limited bandwidth :P02:10
SiDigo for G (or N)02:10
mykevelliwired is about 750kB/s max02:10
mykevelliand yeah I know the router is old but I get fine speeds on my windows box02:11
trece8isn't wired 1000kB/s max?02:11
kebis that both ways02:11
saltmiseryeah02:11
saltmiserso B is slow02:11
saltmiserno matte rwhat02:11
saltmiserhaha02:11
mykevelliwell, i wont get higher than about 750 with my isp so upgrading isnt really high on my list at the moment.  not with a wedding coming up, anyways02:12
SiDimykevelli, does your router support 802.11g or n ?02:12
SiDialmost everything supports g02:13
parents_SiDi; that worked perfectly, you are a god! thank you very MUCH02:13
mykevellisadly no, its about 6 or 7 years old02:13
SiDiparents_, i just opened my window and copy-pasted, replacing totem by mplayer :p02:13
parents_yup it works, thanks a lot SiDi02:14
mikubuntusidi, i guess i don't know the right command to kill those pulseaudio processes02:14
parents_isn't it "killall pulseaudio" wouldn't that take care of everything?02:15
mikubuntukillall -9 6107 && kill -9 6110 didn't work02:15
SiDimikubuntu, they're probably coming back up on their own. some gnome apps will launch them if they dont find them02:15
SiDimikubuntu, join #ubuntu and ask there about flash+sound, there should be people with a tutorial under hand02:16
mikubuntui thought, but it din't work with killall pulseaudio02:16
mikubuntuok, i try ubuntu02:16
trece8I still don't kwow what pulseaudio really is02:17
pcfreak30could anyone help me with an issue with xmacro02:59
pcfreak30it wont record02:59
pcfreak30it gives03:00
pcfreak30Server VendorRelease: 1060000003:00
pcfreak30XRecord for server ":0.0" is version 1.13.03:00
pcfreak30Press the key you want to use to end the application. This key can be any key,03:00
pcfreak30as long as you don't need it while working with the remote display.03:00
pcfreak30A good choice is Escape.03:00
pcfreak30The chosen quit-key has the keycode: 903:00
pcfreak30XQueryPointer returned: 103:00
pcfreak30Got Start Of Data03:00
pcfreak30Skipping...03:00
pcfreak30d^C03:00
pcfreak30derrick03:00
pcfreak30and the output is blank...03:00
pcfreak30and esc doent end it03:01
pcfreak30escape = keycode 903:01
pcfreak30any help03:01
zerothisis there a software solution for using an external installation on multiple machines. I've done this manually before. But configs get over written for each machine and I'm always having to waste time on recovery an changing the entire system over to the 'new' hardware. seems 2 me that a set of configs for each system could be stored and loaded when a machine was recognized and deleted for space if no longer needed.03:01
pcfreak30sry, but u lost me03:02
pcfreak30any help03:03
zerothispcfreak30: sorry, I've never used xmacro. but posting many line like that is considered rude. please use pastebin.com or use fewer lines. If we wait, someone might see our questions and know the answer.03:04
pcfreak30k..03:05
pcfreak30sry03:05
zerothisnp03:05
kebzerothis did you look at diffmon?  it could be used after the first install on given hardware to archive the chagnes needed03:07
harejXubuntu is my favoritest! Thank you vero much!03:10
saltmiserdoes xubuntu have samba capabilities out of the box?03:11
cody-somerville:)03:12
cody-somervillesaltmiser, The newest release does, yes.03:12
harejJaunty Jackalope!03:12
pcfreak30ok, does anyone have any idea why xmacro  wont record. it worked in gnome. bugging out in xfce03:13
pcfreak30i also tried a second keyboard03:15
pcfreak30no go03:16
saltmisercody-somerville, how? :P03:17
cody-somervillesaltmiser, Applications > System > Remote File Systems03:17
saltmiseroh wow03:18
saltmiserok thanks03:18
MTec007Before upgrading to 9.04 I was using BitPim to access my cell phone, but now it seems like BitPim does not have the access to do so. My phone is listed in the available ports inside BitPim but I think that some file permissions have been altered during the upgrade. Does any one have any ideas for me to get this working again?03:51
kebwhat device does BitPim use03:52
MTec007I dont really know, keb03:52
kebmaybe add BitPim to the group that can write to the /dev/usb/* devices03:52
kebthere should be a way to do this with the graphical permission manager thingy03:53
kebanother way is to chmod o+w, but either way you need to find out which device it uses to talk to the phone03:54
MTec007i dont know how to find that out03:55
MTec007Also, xubuntu used to pop up a notifiaction bubble when i plugged my phone in telling me i can configure some kind of internet connection for my phone but now it doesnt (post 9.04)03:57
kebBitPim should have a setup or prefs or config dialog03:57
zerothiswell, diffmon looks like a step up from manual. perhaps I can put a few scripts together and make a working system.03:58
MTec007/dev/ttyACM0 appears when i plug my phone in03:58
kebzerothis i know there was something better but i cant recall it at the moment :/04:00
kebMTec007 do a ls -l on /dev/ttyACM004:01
keber, ls -l /dev/ttyACM004:01
kebthat will tell you who has permissions and what kind04:01
MTec007well, post chmod o+w  crw-rw--w- 1 root dialout 166, 0 2009-04-26 22:00 /dev/ttyACM004:02
kebyou'll want read permission as well04:03
kebchmod o+rw04:03
kebthat is a security weakness but if it is a single user machine not a big worry04:04
MTec007still not able to access the phone04:05
MTec007this is just bizzare.04:07
kebsame error?04:07
MTec007it was working perfectly fine before the upgrade.04:07
MTec007what it says is it cant find my phone but my phone is listed in the available ports only after i plug it in.04:08
kebtype "dmesg" and see if it appears there04:09
kebat the end of a long list of device messages04:09
MTec007its there04:10
lorenhow do I remove a directory in home?04:10
MTec007[255218.200085] usb 2-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 704:11
MTec007[255218.361725] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice04:11
lorenI'm trying to get avg linux to work but it keeps saying I don't have permission now that I upgraded my system what should I do?04:11
MTec007[255218.386504] cdc_acm 2-1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device04:11
kebloren open a terminal and type "rmdir name" where name is the directory name04:12
loreno-k04:13
kebhmm so it is actually on a usb device04:13
MTec007im sorry i have got to go noe04:14
MTec007now*04:14
MTec007thank you for your time keb!04:15
lorenit didn't work it's in file system home avg04:15
kebok bye04:15
lorenI don't think I typed it right?04:15
kebnp04:15
lorenwhat's the right command?04:16
keblooks like you are trying to remove a home directory for a user named avg04:17
lorenI believe so it's for avg antivirus for linux I can't get it to update?04:18
lorenit says I don't have permission since I upgraded my system04:18
MTec007keb, i have more time than i thought i had so if you have any more ideas for me, that would be great;)04:18
kebso you want to remove it or get it working?04:18
keboh yes, then remove and reinstall04:19
loreneither way works for me04:19
lorenI need it to know I have administrative privellges04:19
lorenshould I remove the program?04:20
kebMTec007 at this point you might try googling ubuntu bitpim 9.0404:20
kebsee if something changed04:20
kebloren you could try uninstalling from Synaptic04:20
kebyes go to System, Synaptic04:20
lorenI'll see if it's there04:20
lorenI removed it now how do I get it to work reinstall it?04:24
lorenIt's not in Synaptic anymore04:24
kebhow did it get on there in the first place?04:25
lorenI installed it myself off of avg web site download04:26
kebnormally you dont need an antivirus for linux but it is useful to check email that might be going to other systems etc04:27
kebyes download a fresh one and install04:28
lorenI like running it from time to time just to make sure something didn't get on my computer o-k I will04:28
kebon Windows, avg doesnt work after an upgrade of Windows you have to reinstall avg04:28
lorenI'm using xubuntu04:29
kebyou can also try clamav it is quite a good virus scanner04:29
lorenthey have a linux program now04:29
lorenI already have clamav04:30
lorenI like it04:30
kebyes all the major antivirus vendors do04:30
lorenonce you can find the right commands for terminal04:30
lorenI'm not good with terminal commands yet, I'm trying to learn04:31
lorenI'm going to avg web site to see if they have a newer program04:32
kebthere is a gui for clamav linux i think04:33
kebdidnt like it last time i looked04:33
lorenI just found the new version of avg for linux in deb04:34
lorenI'm downloading it now04:34
lorenhttp://free.avg.com/download?prd=afl04:35
lorenIn case you would like it04:35
Sinisteranyone here have satilight for internet ?04:36
kebthanks04:36
lorenyour welcome04:36
Sinistermy videos play for 5 sec with no sound then freeze up anyone know why ?05:12
kebflash videos ?05:13
kebor all videos05:13
n2diyI just did the three latest updates for 8.04, two of which were for Firefox, and now firefox won't fetch any pages, like it can't find the DNS servers?05:23
kebif you go to a terminal and type "host www.google.de" does it gove you an ip address?05:26
keb*give05:26
Sinisterwell it seems thats its faffiene xine that dont play dragona plays05:30
Sinisterww.l.google.com has address 74.125.159.10405:31
Sinisterwww.l.google.com has address 74.125.159.14705:31
kebSinister : yeah i never found xine all that reliable a player.  did you try vlc ?05:32
Sinisterwont work either05:32
n2diymy firefox problem was do to the panel telling me I needed to restart firefox, when actually I had to restart the box, all is well now.05:32
Sinisterkaffeine was all i used last few ears05:33
kebcool05:34
uofm49426hey anyone know if later on down the road will there be support for RS690M ati x120006:05
uofm49426for jaunty06:05
ricochethey guys i was wondering if there was any other good web browsers for xubuntu06:37
R1cochetas opposed to what?06:39
ricochetfirefox06:39
R1cocheti dunno06:39
R1cochetthere r others but i dont know which06:40
_Pete_ricochet: opera06:43
forcesR1cochet, epiphany06:43
forceskonkeror06:43
forcesmidori06:44
forcesw3m06:44
forceslinks06:44
forces!browsers06:44
ubottuBrowsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)06:44
forces!browsers | R1cochet06:44
ubottuR1cochet: please see above06:44
ricochetoh wow06:44
R1cochetthat was the wrong R1cochet06:47
Name141How would I fix booting that Wubi messed up when I uninstalled it?07:43
Name141I installed Jaunty Wubi, but windows still gives me the option to boot Xubuntu or XP during boot07:44
Name141Uninstalled*07:44
Myrttihave you asked in #ubuntu yet?07:53
Name141Yeah, but no responce.07:54
Name141It looks like I could remove C:\wubsomething.mbr = "Xubuntu" From Boot.INI ?07:55
Name141under [operating systems]07:55
lexadthis version Ubuntu Netbook Remix if i install on my inspiron 1720 can i use wifi connection ?08:23
Keriohello everybody08:58
lexadhi09:02
lexadkerio09:02
lexadcan you help me with something ..?09:03
Keriothink im gonna try xbuntu today :)09:03
Keriocleaned a harddrive in preperation09:03
Kerionot really lexad :)09:03
Keriothx anyway09:03
lexadthis version Ubuntu Netbook Remix if i install on my inspiron 1720 can i use wirelles connection ?09:03
Kerioaha09:03
lexaddo you know something about ...this ...09:04
Kerioif i can help you with omething?09:04
lexadwell ..i never instal yet ..09:04
Kerionot really lexad09:04
lexadbut i want to instal ..09:04
lexadi'm new with linux09:04
Keriousing windows on it know?09:04
lexadnow ..ys ....09:04
Kerioyou got partitions fixed up?09:05
lexadbut i want to know ..if that version have some drivers included ....09:05
lexadnot ..yet ..i need a second connect for second HDD09:05
lexad*connector09:05
Kerioallright, in that cause you should definately try it09:05
Keriogrub will allow you to boot into windows as weel09:06
Keriowell09:06
lexadok ..and if i install ...so my wirelles connection shoul it work right .?09:06
DarkflareHi, Whats the best way to configure a usb hard drive in kubuntu so that i can mount it on plugging in?09:06
lexad*should09:06
Darkflare(i realise there are several methods fstab//file manager//)09:07
Kerioi dont really know lexad. im not an experienced linux user :)09:07
lexadlol ....what OS you use then ...?09:07
Keriojust trying to kill some time here at work09:07
Darkflarelexad what wireless card do you have?09:07
lexadoh ..09:07
lexadi'm beginer too ..09:08
Kerioi use linux on my server in the living room09:08
Keriobut main system = xp09:08
lexadw8 i tell you ...just w809:08
Keriogonna experiment with xubuntu on that09:08
Keriogotta get a drive ready though09:08
Keriomain system that is09:09
Darkflareyar, why not dual boot?09:09
Kerioim going to use dual boot09:09
lexadDell Wireless 1390 WLAN MiniCard09:09
lexadi have  a inspiron 172009:09
Keriobut i wanna back upp my data on the drive i plan to resize with gpart09:10
Darkflare lexad have you tried using xubuntu the live cd?09:10
lexadno ..09:10
lexadi'm beginer ..with linux09:10
lexadfor the moment home i use os: win vista09:11
DarkflareOkie, well download the xubuntu live cd. Burn it and then run it. With the live cd you dont write any files to the hard drive09:11
lexadbut i want to install on the secont HDD the Ubuntu Netbook Remix09:11
Keriolexad09:11
lexadya09:11
Kerioyou can try livecd version first09:11
Keriothen install it if you're still curious09:11
lexadlive cd for Ubuntu Netbook Remix09:12
Kerioyou prolly can test if the wifi driver works in livecd-mode09:12
lexadand if is not work ..? lol ..09:12
lexadthey must be some driver's ..09:12
Kerioif you got a problem you can always try to fix it!09:13
Kerioor go back to using windows09:13
Kerioyour choice09:13
Darkflarehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR#The%20Easy%20(recommended)%20way09:13
Darkflarewith regards to wireless drivers, if it doesnt work out of the box you can try and use your windows drivers using ndiswrapper09:13
lexadwell ..i keep the win ...but i want to install on the second HDD the Ubuntu Netbook Remix09:13
lexadby the way what is the best partition for ..linux ?09:14
Darkflarebuggers, i came here for help, not to help others lol09:14
lexad?09:15
Keriobest way?09:15
Keriobest way is prolly to use one of the ext file systems09:16
Keriowhich you can set up with gparted thats included with linux09:16
Kerioubuntu09:16
Keriosry09:16
Keriolinux is the kernel.. i know i know :)09:16
Darkflareif your second hard drive you plan to install onto is empty, then you can install using the live cd, and use a guided partitioning system09:16
Darkflarethat way you dont need to worry about specifying the file system yourself09:17
lexadyes it's empty ..i want to use only for linux09:17
Kerioyes, but it might use up all the space though09:17
Keriobut you can use custom mode with gparted09:17
tuna-fishI'm having a weird printing problem. Every time I try to print something, the printer just asks for "US Letter". This is a problem 'cos I have never seen such a type of paper. the dialogs for the programs I try to print in have the paper type grayed out, and the System/printing dialog has the paper size set to A4. Help?09:18
Keriothing is that linux can read ntfs file system09:18
lexadand after i install on the second HDD in linux i can see the windows partition ..?09:18
Darkflarelexad yes you can09:18
Keriobut windows wont be able to read the varuious linux file systems09:18
lexadnice ..09:18
lexadafter i install i want to use this on linux http://www.winehq.org/09:19
TheSheep!ext3 | Kerio09:19
ubottuKerio: ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org09:19
Kerioaha!09:19
Kerionice :)09:19
Keriodidn'tknow that09:19
DarkflareTheSheep do you know about how to automount usb hard drives?09:19
TheSheepDarkflare: they should automount by default09:20
Keriodoes it work with ext3 as well?09:20
TheSheepDarkflare: it's set in the volume manager setttings09:20
Keriosaid ext2 on the url09:20
TheSheepKerio: ext3 is backward-compatible with ext209:20
Keriomarvelous :)09:20
TheSheepKerio: you can mount it as ext209:20
Kerioext4 new in 9.04 - right?09:21
ablomentuna-fish, letter is the default format in the US, if you install the english version it sets that as default, in most applications you can change this, in abiword its file=>page setup, and in open office its file=>printer settings, other applications have other places where you set this09:21
Kerio!ext409:21
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ext409:21
TheSheepKerio: yes, and it has some optional features that are not backward-compatible with ext2and ext3, unfortunately09:21
Kerioah, kk09:21
ablomen(most of the time, look for page-setup)09:21
DarkflareTheSheep: I've done some tinkering, should i remove the entries in the fstab regarding the usb hard drive, and unplug and then plug back in to let it auto configure?09:21
Kerio! kernel09:22
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages09:22
Keriowhat a convinient bot!09:22
TheSheepDarkflare: may work, I'm not familiar with how it's done exactly though, so can't help here09:22
Kerio!samba09:22
ubottuSamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.09:22
TheSheep!botabuse | Kerio09:22
ubottuKerio: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".09:22
Keriookok, sorry09:22
tuna-fishab1omen: that much I know. The problem is, I have set everything that has not been grayed out to A4, and it STILL says "insert US LETTER" on the printer when I try to print something.09:23
tuna-fisheven the test page09:23
Keriotheseep, have you tried 9.04 yet?09:24
DarkflareThis is a bit of a rookie question, but im running xubuntu on an old laptop, and want to speed it up as much as possible. In windows i'd uninstall the programs that where never used etc, are there any tweaks i can use for xubuntu? im already using xfce09:25
TheSheepDarkflare: you can for example uninstall cups if you are not using any printers09:25
tuna-fishand the bluetooth stuff if you have no bluetooth devices09:26
TheSheepDarkflare: also check the 'autostarted applications' in settings09:26
tuna-fishalso, pulseaudio is such a resource hog. removing it can help a lot09:26
DarkflareGotcha TheSheep, thanks looks like a good starting point09:26
TheSheepDarkflare: and you may save some memory y disabling 'start gnome services' checkbox in session settings09:26
tuna-fish(but that makes starting gnome programs slower)09:27
TheSheeptuna-fish: xubuntu is pulseaudio-free, fortunately09:27
tuna-fishgood, I wasn't sure09:27
Darkflarehmm gnome applications are thinks like office and what not?09:27
Darkflareare there specific xfce applications?09:27
tuna-fishnot really, but the difference is "standard gtkN+ application" and "gnome application"09:28
TheSheepDarkflare: pidgin, rhythmbox, totem <-- gnome apps09:28
Darkflarehmm so the only difference would be they start up slower? but in the end they would run at the same speed, its just the initial starting that would be slow09:29
tuna-fishyes09:29
Kerioare there any commands i can use that display the gfx in terminal?09:29
tuna-fishand usually only for the first time they start09:29
tuna-fishKerio: elaborate, I didn't understand the question09:30
Darkflaresuperb, thanks09:30
TheSheepDarkflare: the point is, xfce can load some of the gnome libraries at startup. this makes the apps start faster, because they don't have to load them, but it takes mamory no matter whether you use them or not. but if you use them, they will load and take the memory anyways09:30
TheSheepKerio: sl09:30
Kerioim not quite sure what gfx card i have on a system09:30
Keriosl?09:30
DarkflareThesheep thanks it sounds like disabling it is the way to go09:31
lexadanyone can give me a link with live ubuntu cd ...pls. .09:31
Kerioand im having problems with right driver09:31
Keriousing a custom kernel as well09:31
tuna-fishlspci | grep VGA09:31
TheSheep!download | lexad09:31
ubottulexad: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Jaunty, and help keeping the servers' load low!09:31
div0-workHello all! how to install tcsh?09:31
TheSheepdiv0-work: system->synaptic09:32
TheSheepdiv0-work: then search for tcsh and install it09:32
tuna-fishoh, sorry09:32
lexadubottu i need de live version ..09:32
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)09:32
div0-workthanks! :)09:32
tuna-fishKerio: lspci | grep VGA09:32
TheSheepdiv0-work: alternatively, open terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install tcsh'09:32
Keriothx tuna09:32
Kerioworked perfectly :)09:32
tuna-fishk09:32
Keriousing i custom kernel for that system09:33
Keriodidn't have problems before with the gfx drifers09:33
Kerioforced to very low resolution now09:33
Darkflarebrb gonna reboot09:34
Keriothe resultion even prevent me from getting to the hardware meny know09:35
div0-workTheSheep, apt-get says: Could not find package tcsh09:38
lexadkerio do you have some live cd link for me please ..09:38
Keriolexad09:38
Keriojust download ubntu cd you planning on using09:38
Kerioworks as livecd09:38
Keriothe ubntu version u plan on using09:38
div0-workfor tcsh no suitable repositories?09:38
lexadand i hope do not delete my windows. .09:39
Keriolexad09:39
Keriogrub will be able to boot into windows as well09:39
lexadook ..10x i will try when i go home ..09:40
Kerioif you're not pleased with grub you can always write iv over to windows boot manager09:40
Keriowith the fix mbr command09:40
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tuna-fishre: my printing woes. I changed the locale to danish. No dialog I could found says "Us Letter" anymore. yet, when I try to print, the printer happily asks for it09:50
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demon_hey i cant play movies with movie player when i have turned on my compositor09:52
darkflare5000guys i need some serious help... how do i get to a terminal using grub command line paramaters?09:53
darkflare5000anyone knoe hpe to boot into fail safe from grub command line?09:55
darkflare5000(sorry writing from my phone)09:56
tuna-fishhmm09:56
tuna-fishwait a sec09:56
darkflare5000okays09:56
TheSheep!info tcsh | div0-work09:57
ubottudiv0-work: tcsh (source: tcsh): TENEX C Shell, an enhanced version of Berkeley csh. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14.00-7ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 341 kB, installed size 716 kB09:57
tuna-fishadd single to kernel command line09:57
tuna-fishso, whatever you are booting + single09:57
tuna-fish(for single user mode)09:57
div0-workTheSheep, ubottu thanks for the help! just updated the repository09:58
darkflare5000tuna-fish trying now thanks09:58
div0-workeverything is ok :)09:58
darkflare5000my kernal line looks like this10:00
darkflare5000numbers ro quiet splash single10:00
darkflare5000correct?10:00
tuna-fishhmm10:00
tuna-fishactually, i'd just remove anything but single from there, honestly10:01
tuna-fishnone of those are hw-related10:01
Kerioi see now that i have various xorg.config files10:04
Keriohow do i define which one to use?10:04
darkflare5000whats the default root password?10:08
darkflare5000for a shell prompt10:08
Kerioisn't that deactivated?10:08
TheSheep!root10:08
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo10:08
demon_can any body tell me why i cant watch any video when my compositor is enabled10:08
Keriotry sudo su10:08
demon_knome, are ya here mate10:08
darkflare5000it says give root password for maintenance10:09
demon_darkflare5000,  try your log in password10:09
Keriodarkflare5000 try sudo and then your command10:09
Kerioit will then prompt you for your pass10:10
TheSheepKerio: he's not at a terminal10:10
darkflare5000im in the recovery menu10:10
Kerioag ok10:10
darkflare5000 trying to drop to root shell prompt10:11
TheSheepdarkflare5000: alt+f2 doesn't work?10:11
TheSheepdarkflare5000: you booted from the cd?10:11
darkflare5000no sorry let me start again10:11
darkflare5000im talking from my phone, i cant boot as i edited the network interfaces wrong and now it has an issue with nfs, but that i know how to fix. im trying to get a shell so i can fix it, but need to edit the grub parameters to get to a shell10:13
darkflare5000the kernal parameter single got me to the recovery menu10:13
darkflare5000but the root shell option was asking for a password, and my password didnt work10:14
darkflare5000woo10:15
darkflare5000im.in10:15
TheSheepit shouldn't be asking for password :/10:16
darkflare5000nevermind10:16
demon_can any body tell me why i cant watch any video when my compositor is enabled10:16
demon_help10:16
TheSheepdemon_: because the player uses hardware acceleration, and your graphics card decided to not display the overlays for soem reason, or to display it on another screen10:17
TheSheepdemon_: 'display fill screen overlays directly' option may help10:18
demon_nope10:18
demon_but i havent installed drivers for my graphic card yet10:18
demon_:)10:18
demon_is this a problem10:18
demon_:)10:18
darkflare5000hell yea, got it working again10:21
BSEdemon: it may be problem :DD10:29
Darkflarewow what a mission.10:43
Darkflaremy usb hardrive isnt auto mounting what am i doing wrong? it appears in the fdisk -l10:44
Darkflareand in removeable drives and media, ive selected all the removable storage options10:45
Darkflareand in the file manager ive enabled volume management10:45
Darkflareand the hard drive definatly isnt mounted, i checked in mount10:47
Darkflarearg this is so frustrating apparently it should just work10:54
Darkflarebut it does not10:54
Darkflarethe hard drive appears in the lsusb10:54
Darkflarebut wont auto mount10:54
DiecastMessiahHailz all11:07
DiecastMessiahI really need some help.... I cannot allow a file to run anymore11:10
DiecastMessiahlike iourbanterror.i38611:10
_Pete_"allow a file to run" ?11:11
DiecastMessiahthinks it is a Dos Font file.... and no options to make Ex_able11:12
DiecastMessiahi cannot spell to save my life sorry11:12
DiecastMessiahi go to properties, and not like the option is gray it not even there anymore11:13
_Pete_you mean you try to launch iourbanterror.i386 and it doesn't work?11:13
DiecastMessiahto make Exaq__able11:14
DiecastMessiahyeah permission is not allowed11:14
_Pete_check ut dir is owned by you and iourbanterror.i386 has +x permission11:15
DiecastMessiahi could .. but today i cannot11:15
DiecastMessiahDrwx--------11:15
DiecastMessiahthe iourbanterror file is -rw-r--r--11:17
_Pete_it should have x too11:17
_Pete_chmod a+x iourbanterror.i38611:17
DiecastMessiahyeah but i cannot do the right click and make it11:17
_Pete_in cmdline11:17
_Pete_dont know about right clicks11:17
DiecastMessiahwell normall i could put in a checkmark and make it exatuable11:18
DiecastMessiahbut thanks tring now11:18
div0hello! how to fixed screen resolution? Settings -> Display max 1360x768, but i want 1280x102411:22
DiecastMessiahThanks _Pete_ got it going again11:23
DiecastMessiahDiv0 nvidia ?? and using widescreen ?11:23
div0DiecastMessiah, intel, and no widescreen...11:24
div0monitor 19''11:24
DiecastMessiahNo idea here then sorry... have to wait for the smarter ones then me LOL11:25
div0DiecastMessiah, anyway thanks!11:25
DiecastMessiahjust a newbie... but i have to fight and learn as i go ... could help ya out if was the same setup as me11:25
DiecastMessiahNp later11:25
Darkflarewhats a good linux alternative to office (word and excel) for a low spec computer running xubuntu?11:37
Darkflareby low spec im talking 256 ram i think11:38
ablomenabiword and gnumeric are light, and i think they can handle .doc and .xls11:39
ablomenthey should be installed by default btw11:39
Darkflareyea they are, but i was looking for something potencially better?11:39
ablomenwell koffice and open office are the only ones i know, but open office is heavy and koffice has a K in front of it, so it needs a lot of kde libs etc11:40
Darkflareyea, hmm thanks, nevermind11:41
Darkflarei'll see what abi word is like11:42
MyrttiDarkflare: google docs12:12
Darkflaregoogle docs is an interesting alternative, but its not functional enough is it?12:28
Darkflarethanks anyway Myritti12:29
MyrttiDarkflare: considering that you don't, by most standards, have functional computer with 256 RAM... ;—)12:34
Darkflarelol its functioning pretty well =P playing music and everything lol12:36
BSEI was using OOo on my old laptop with 256megs of RAM, and WinXP ... well.. If it was the only big software running, it was running pretty good12:37
Darkflarethis laptop dual boots with win xp12:38
Darkflareits "useable"12:38
Darkflareif you dont mind making a cup of tea everytime you open a new app..12:38
BSEI was talking about OOo - once you opened it, it was good12:39
BSEof course, it took time12:39
Darkflareah gotcha, ive got ms office installed on the xp partition, and its not good lol12:40
BSEhmm12:40
BSEwhich version?12:40
Darkflare200312:40
BSE2003 MSO were tbh faster then OOo12:40
BSEhm, strange12:40
Darkflarereally? wow12:40
BSEmaybe because MSO soft is not so memory heavy [word has like 10megs in ram]12:41
Hetorhow to set nautilus as my default file manager?12:43
Darkflarecheers for the info BSE ive gotta run, c ua12:45
Darkflare*bye bye12:45
BSEbye DF12:45
dodimarneed some help here... trying to share a folder on a xubuntu vm.. but when I try to access it on my host (windows xp).. it can't open the folder, network access is denied..13:11
_Pete_check xp firewall13:13
_Pete_.. I assume share folder = samba on xubuntu :)13:13
dodimaryup.. share through samba... I checked firewall.. still can't access the folder..13:15
Keriohow do i choose what driver to use for graphic card?13:15
Keriododimar13:16
Kerioare you the owner of the folder13:16
dodimarhow should file permissions be on the folder?13:17
dodimar??13:27
J_Litewskii have a problem... how do i fix initrd?13:59
J_Litewskiit's trying to rebuild a kernel that i removed13:59
J_Litewskiwell, i tricked it for now14:02
Xberthi14:02
tinglehi, since i installed 9.04 my mediakeys on my notebook dont work anymore by default.. could someone point out what i should do?14:03
J_Litewskitingle, you have a dell?14:03
tingleJ_Litewski: nope HP14:03
Xberthow do it set compiz to be the default in 9.04 /etc/xdg/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.rc isn't there anymore ?14:03
J_Litewskitingle, ah, i had the same problem with my dell, i just went into synaptics and searched dell14:04
J_Litewskiinstalled a couple of things for my lappy and now i get all my function keys minus sound14:04
tingleJ_Litewski: might give it a try with HP14:05
tingleJ_Litewski: so you still dont have sound control?14:05
tingleJ_Litewski: thats what its all about for me ;x14:05
J_Litewskitingle, nope, but my sound ins't a mediakey eighter14:05
tingleJ_Litewski: ah mkay14:06
tingleJ_Litewski: well tahnks for you awnser.. to bad there doesnt really seem to be a multimedia key support for hewlett packet though14:08
J_Litewskibut all your other keys work?14:08
tingleJ_Litewski: yeah14:09
J_Litewskihmm...14:11
J_Litewskibut, i tricked initrd into thinking that my custom kernel is still there14:12
J_Litewskii lust linked the 2.6.28 folder14:12
EdgEy-hello, does anyone know if there is a way to use my numpad as keyboard shortcuts in xfce?14:31
EdgEy-i can bind "alt+a" for example, or numpad - +, just not the numbers or decimal etc, i don't use the numpad to type and would like to use it for my media player14:32
EdgEy-if i bind them nothing happens when i press the shortcut14:32
JPohlmannEdgEy-: Mind to file a bug against xfce4-settings on bugs.xfce.org?14:32
EdgEy-will do14:33
JPohlmannEdgEy-: Cool, thanks.14:34
ablomenEdgEy-, and while that isnt fixed, you can use xbindkeys (install xbindkeys-config too), this should be able to do it (though with a bit more work)14:37
EdgEy-i'll give it a look, thanks14:37
EdgEy-i'll fiddle a bit and see which keys i can/can't bind, just searching to see if there is already a report14:37
gorgutbah. Has anyone had any problems with Mono running high CPU?14:38
TheSheepgorgut: no, it's very easy to make it use lots of CPU, actually you don't even have to do anything, it uses lots of CPU by default14:42
gorgutTheSheep, hrm. Mono keeps starting when I reboot. I can kill it no problem, but how would I go about making sure it doesn't start at boot?14:43
TheSheepgorgut: see autostarted applications, maybe one of them uses mono?14:43
gorgutTheSheep, Well, whenever I installed Tomboy notes, it had to install mono to satisfy dependencies14:44
TheSheepgorgut: that's because Tomboy is written in mono14:44
gorgutTheSheep, But, I didn't have this problem in Intrepid. As a matter of fact, if I kill the mono process, Tomboy seems to still run fine14:45
TheSheepmaybe it's another mono application that hogs your cpu?14:45
gorguthrm. not sure. Htop shows it as /usr/bin/mono --debut14:45
gorgut*debug14:45
gorguti killed it... everything seems normal14:46
gorgutThe only things under Autostarted Apps are Network manager (not mono), CheckGmail (which I think is python), tilda (which isn't mono), and Compiz (obviously not mono)14:47
TheSheepgorgut: save your session on next logout (with that mono killed14:50
TheSheepgorgut: should keep it dead14:50
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TheSheepgorgut: alternatively, delete saved sessions in ~/.cache/sessions14:51
gorgutTheSheep, hasn't worked yet. Heh. I've done this about 3 times this morning14:51
gorgutTheSheep, nothing suspect in rcconf either :(14:51
Pres-GasGood morrow15:36
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SlonkieAnybody know if it's a possibility to get an interface for unrar and use it as default instead of the default in xubuntu?16:15
charlie-tcaunrar is a command line utility. I don't think there is a GUI for it. You could write a script, though16:16
Slonkieah, in 30 years i may be advanced enough to do that!16:17
SlonkieKnow of an application with gui which can unrar several rar packages which is packed like part1.rar, part2.rar and so on?16:18
zelharhello16:21
Slonkie!HI | zelhar16:21
ubottuzelhar: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!16:21
zelharI accidently closed and destroyed my xfce panels. How to I restore the default panels ?16:22
zelharno clues ?16:23
ablomenzelhar, alt+f2 xfce4-panel16:24
ablomenoh and if its in the settings16:24
SlonkieThat'll only restore the panel16:24
charlie-tca!panels16:25
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/16:25
zelharyes but I need the default panel16:25
zelharI tryied to configure the panles and ended up sestroying them16:25
charlie-tcazelhar: that explains how to restore them to defaults16:25
zelharI just have a blank floating panel16:25
charlie-tcadelete what it tells on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels then16:26
zelharwhich links explains ?16:26
willdI upgraded from intrepid to jaunty and lost wireless. Any ideas?16:27
charlie-tcaSlonkie: right-click in Thunar , create archive to make the file, etc16:28
Slonkieehm...16:33
SlonkieWhat do you mean by create archive? What i wan't is to unpack 1 file which is packed in several rar files16:34
charlie-tcaright-click it, expand archive, then select and expand until you hit it, then hilight that file and select unpack "just this file"16:35
charlie-tcaOh, crap, probably that's wrong16:35
SlonkieI'm pretty sure i've tried everything possible with the default one16:36
charlie-tcaI think you will need to use the command to unrar, since it has to do several files at once16:36
charlie-tca!unrar16:37
ubotturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free16:37
tobias|Apologies for the potentially dumb question, but when I try to open a link from Evolution it seems to think that I want it open in Firefox16:54
tobias|Despite my preferred application set as "Opera"16:54
viddtobias|, did you set evolution use opera too?16:55
tobias|It doesn't appear to /have/ that option16:55
viddlet me install it...one moment16:55
tobias|Sorry for the trouble16:56
viddno trouble16:56
viddi just thought i had it installed already =]16:57
tobias|Ah, I see =]17:00
viddah...work is sending me on a install....ill be back later sorry17:01
tobias|Not a problem =]17:02
ron_o9.04... working so far with very few problems.17:08
ron_oI decided to upgrade only because I needed hdmi sound to work, but haven't checked that one out yet.17:09
RuadhHi all17:14
waanI'm trying to install apache2.2 but it says the package is not available, but is referred to by another package17:59
waandoes this mean I need to add in more software repositorys?17:59
viddwaan, no...just that that is not the proper name for the app18:00
charlie-tcaIt means you should use synaptic package manager. It will have the right package name18:00
viddwaan, if you just type apache instead of apache2.2 you should get what you expect18:01
waanvidd: I'm using ssh so do I need to use aptitude instead?18:03
waanor just plain apache18:03
charlie-tca!apache218:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about apache218:04
charlie-tca!apache18:04
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)18:04
waanvidd:Yeah apache was the same, apache2 did the trick I probably should have tried that first18:07
waanThanks for your help18:07
saketh_are there any good ways to speed up xubuntu jaunty?18:13
saketh_anyone?18:15
TheSheepsaketh_: only by limiting functionality, all the non-limiting ways are already used by default :)18:15
saketh_i dont really mind limiting functionality a bit18:16
TheSheepfor example, if you don't use printers, you can uninstall cups18:17
saketh_like exchanging firefox for another browser or something18:17
TheSheepthat you can do too18:17
saketh_ok!18:18
TheSheep!browsers | saketh_18:18
ubottusaketh_: Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)18:18
saketh_thanx!18:19
saketh_i gotta go18:19
saketh_bye!18:19
beezlequit18:24
EdgEyhmm18:32
basajaunhi all19:32
vidd!hello | basajaun19:32
ubottubasajaun: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!19:32
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J_LitewskiTheSheep, will i screw up my computer if i remove the bluetooth support?19:50
TheSheepJ_Litewski: no19:51
J_Litewskiok, cool19:51
jasonmi am unable to restart x with ctrl alt backspace on 9.04. any ideas?19:59
TheSheepjasonm: it's disabled in the default X config19:59
TheSheephttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace20:00
jasonmTheSheep, awsome thanks for the help20:02
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ballAnyone else have problems with screen modes in Jaunty?20:25
ballMine is firing up in 1280x960, which is inappropriate for my display.20:26
ball...even if I change it in the settings manager20:26
FiveAcresI am getting 1280 x 800 in both ubuntu (gnome) and xubuntu on my Lenovo Ideapad Y510.20:38
ballFiveAcres: that's three of us then20:42
ballWhat display adaptor?20:42
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artistxehey. in Ubuntu 8.10 I am trying to locate the hosts file  (looked in /etc dir first . can someone tell me where ? (did several different methods of searching for it as well20:47
ballartistxe: should be in /etc20:47
ballartistxe: did you make one?20:48
artistxeball. nope.20:48
ballartistxe: try making one20:48
artistxeball : editing one I found20:48
ballI'll be back shortly20:48
artistxeoh. well, the question really is. etc is where it belongs ?20:48
charlie-tcaIt should be /etc/hosts20:49
artistxecharlie-tca, I know. it is not.20:49
charlie-tcaThat is where it belongs. /etc20:49
charlie-tcaI thought it is created by default with 127.0.0.1 in it20:50
BSEartistxe: and by locate you found nothing?20:50
artistxewait. I was looking for a directory , not a file.20:50
charlie-tcaIt is a file. plain text20:50
artistxeeverywhere I read said it was in /etc/hosts/20:50
artistxeso of course I was looking for a dir.20:51
artistxen/m . thanks20:51
artistxe\:)20:51
charlie-tcaunderstandable that you would look for a directory.20:51
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artistxecharlie-tca, that one line means alot20:54
charlie-tcaI know20:54
basajaunhi20:54
basajaunhi charlie-tca20:54
charlie-tcaHello, basajaun20:54
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basajaunis there a list of module errors and what they mean anywhere charlie-tca ?21:02
charlie-tcaI don't know. I stay away from modules if I can.21:02
basajaunhave googled in vain21:02
charlie-tcaWhat module is it?21:03
basajaunlol21:03
basajaunInstalled 9.04 and getting couple of errors referring to modules21:04
basajaunmodprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.28-generic/modules.dep No such file or directory21:05
charlie-tcaGooggled the error itself and got nothing, huh?21:05
charlie-tcathat looks like a linux kernel error21:06
J_Litewskibasajaun, did it say 2.6.28-11-generic, or just 2.6.28-generic?21:07
charlie-tcaAre you using removable drives?21:07
basajaunwell I only get to one page I have contributed to a bug report page but meanwhile I would love to know21:07
basajaunI m using removable drives21:08
charlie-tcahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113075521:08
charlie-tcaAre you getting that on startup?21:08
basajaunyes21:08
charlie-tcaTake a look at bug 34703421:10
charlie-tcabug 34703421:10
basajaunwell i suppose patience will further everything seems to work quite well21:10
charlie-tcahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/34703421:11
charlie-tcarobot is broken again, I guess21:11
basajaunThe last  entries on bug 347034 are from me lol charlie-tca21:11
charlie-tcaI see.21:12
charlie-tcaI don't know if this will help you:21:13
charlie-tcahttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/modprobe-fatal-could-not-load-libmodules...modules.dep-335214/21:13
basajauncharlie-tca,  youn are a mine of wisdom I unfortunately vaguely                     0.21:17
basajaun understand that page21:18
charlie-tcaHmmm, me too21:18
Barbatrixhello... I've got a question about xubuntu 8.04 and the xfce version (4.4.2)21:23
charlie-tca!question | Barbatrix21:23
ubottuBarbatrix: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:23
basajaunI prefer to stay away from tinckering with that anyway I have to go thanks charlie-tca21:23
charlie-tcaSorry, basajaun21:23
Barbatrixallright, here goes,21:23
Barbatrixis it possible to change to the xfce 4.4.3 or somewhere in which Thunar bug 2502 is fixed?21:24
basajaundon be sorry charlie-tca  and talk soon21:24
basajaunbye all21:24
Barbatrixbye21:24
Barbatrix(at least I guess in xfce 4.4.3 this bug's fixed)21:25
theuser1_how to add this repository http://svn.inspircd.org/index.py/ ?21:25
Barbatrixok, again in one line :]21:26
charlie-tcaI can't find bug 250221:26
charlie-tcaHow about a little more explanation on that?21:26
Barbatrixis it possible to change the desktop version of Xubuntu 8.04 (currently 4.4.2) to a version, where Thunar bug 2502 is fixed?21:27
Barbatrixwell21:27
Barbatrixthis is a long-known bug, where Thunar freezes, if you activate 'hidden files' - along with tree view - and then deactivate hidden files again21:28
Barbatrixthe bug's been fixed in 11/200821:28
Barbatrixbut not transferred into 8.0421:28
BarbatrixI suppose, that maybe xfce 4.4.3 has this fix included, but I don't know21:29
charlie-tcaI have never experienced it. You can upgrade to xfce 4.6 using a ppa21:29
Barbatrixa ppa?21:29
charlie-tcabut it is not supported by xubuntu, only by xfce21:29
charlie-tcaGet it here: https://launchpad.net/~jerome-guelfucci/+archive/ppa . File the bugs against it on http://bugzilla.xfce.org/ .21:30
charlie-tcaFollow the instructions to add it to your sources: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories21:30
charlie-tcaInstall it in a tty using ctrl+alt+f2, log in, type "sudo apt-get update", hit enter. When that finishes, type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", hit enter. Restart your computer, if it doesn't work, run the upgrade again.21:30
charlie-tcaThat should contain the bug fix.21:30
Barbatrixwill this upgrade the whole distro?21:31
charlie-tcaThe whole xfce part21:32
Barbatrixah ok, thank you for the hint!21:32
charlie-tcaGood luck21:32
Barbatrixhow likely is it to break the system, with compiz-fusion installed?21:33
Barbatrix(and ati prop drivers)21:33
charlie-tcaI don't know, honestly. I haven't seen reports on it breaking Hardy, but I haven't seen too many try it either21:33
Barbatrix:]21:34
Barbatrixwell, perhaps I'll try...21:34
J_Litewskiwhere exactly is the trash located at on the HDD21:34
J_Litewskii'm trying to make a script that automajikly empty the trash21:36
Barbatrixthe bug I'm talking about exists at least since 7.04 and has been know for some time (on bugzilla). How could I attract the dev's of Xubuntu to this issue, so they mabe include the fix for the LTS version?21:36
Barbatrix"/home/Trash-0" ?21:38
Barbatrixit's owned by root, though, so your script needs root access J_Litewski21:39
Barbatrixcharlie-tca, do you think it's possible to talk the dev's into including the mentioned fix for Thunar into 8.04 LTS?21:42
charlie-tcaBarbatrix: is there a bug in launchpad for it?21:42
charlie-tcaIf not, please file one.21:42
Barbatrixhttp://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250221:42
Barbatrixhere it is21:42
charlie-tcaI'll talk to them and try to get it backported to hardy.21:45
Barbatrixhey, that would be great!21:45
Barbatrixhow will I know if you've been successful?21:46
charlie-tcaWe're doing an intro to xubuntu in #ubuntu-classroom in 15 minutes, so I'll work on it after that.21:46
knomeyeah, everybody join and come to cheer us ;)21:47
Barbatrixwell, well :]21:47
BarbatrixI've gotta go to bed now... any chance to keep up with the results on the matter?21:48
charlie-tcahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/293839 will be opened again. You can keep on eye on it21:48
Barbatrixokaydokey :)21:49
BarbatrixMany thanks21:49
charlie-tcasure21:50
BarbatrixI'll switch to horizontal mode now...21:50
Barbatrixgood night!21:50
J_Litewskiis there a quicker way to download the source of ubuntu's 2.6.28-11 kernel?21:55
J_Litewskii'm using git now21:56
J_Litewskior is git my best bet22:00
J_Litewski??22:00
filosoficohi22:14
basajaunback22:34
basajauncharlie-tca,  ?22:34
charlie-tcaIntro to Xubuntu is in #ubuntu-classroom right now22:34
basajaunwhat should the boot file contain22:36
basajaunk22:38
RussakHello, is there a way to install xubuntu without getting the extra applications? I already have Ubuntu 9.04 installed and would like to try it out, but don't need the extra apps (abiword, gnumeric, thunderbird)22:42
cody-somervilleRussak, Install just xfce packages22:44
Russakokay.22:45
basajaunbye23:03
WikiZWhat app would anyone recommend for running vnc server on xubuntu23:12
charlie-tca!vnc23:12
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX23:12
WikiZits just locally, i dont wanna tunnel it23:13
charlie-tcaNow, if I could remember the server name?23:13
WikiZthat would be awsome23:13
charlie-tca!vinegre23:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vinegre23:15
knome!vinagre23:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vinagre23:15
charlie-tca!vino23:16
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about vino23:16
charlie-tcaMaybe vino23:16
knomed'oh23:16
charlie-tcaWikiZ: look at vino23:16
WikiZrhanks23:17
WikiZthanks23:17
WikiZcharlie-tca found, configured, but cant connect to it23:22
rglWikiZ, vino only works if there is a user logging in at the desktop.23:23
WikiZits already logged in23:23
rglah so it should have worked :/23:24
WikiZusing winblows client tho23:24
WikiZbut should work23:24
rgltry using remote desktop in the same desktop23:24
rgl(eg connect to localhost to see if its working there)23:24
WikiZnope, dosent work23:26
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=== Guest18865 is now known as mykevelli
mykevelliif im in terminal and my pwd is /home/username why would i not be able to cd to the desktop directory?23:27
charlie-tcamykevelli: you should be able to using cd Desktop23:30
charlie-tcaIt is case sensitive, and you can not use the leading "/"23:30
mykevellibah23:31
mykevelliim an idiot23:32
mykevellididnt realize Desktop was case-sensitive23:32
charlie-tcaNah, just probably forgot?23:32
mykevelliyeah, we'll go with i just forgot23:34
charlie-tca;)23:35
mykevellianother question, actually.  im trying to make this sort of windows-esque so my girlfriend can use it too.  so i put the top panel at the bottom, deleted the one that was down there, and would like to have the open windows showing up on what is now my bottom panel (so it looks similar to windows)23:37
mykevelliI added the Task List to the bottom panel but it doesnt seem to be working correctly23:37
mykevellii have one item in the list (a firefox window) and another one that says Untitled Window23:37
mykevelliand it doesnt update23:38
charlie-tcaDid you restart/log out/log in?23:39
mykevellii have not yet.  is that what I need to do?23:39
charlie-tcaProbably. It is a change to the user configurations, usually requires at least log out/login23:39
mykevelliahh i see23:40
mykevellithanks :)23:40
charlie-tcano problem23:40
WikiZthe meny and window bar just dissapeared after a reboot23:58
charlie-tcahmmm,23:58
charlie-tca!panels23:58
ubottuDid your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/23:58
J_LitewskiWikiZ, is there still a bar?23:58
J_Litewskierr panel?23:58
friartuckwhich packages needed for evolution+exchange?23:59
lukinforehi23:59
lukinfore2nd try23:59

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