[04:36] fresh jaunty upgrade, cheese doesn't find my webcam, camorama doesn't find /dev/video0 (I have no /dev/vid* anything). lsbusb reports a "Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0545:800c Xirlink, Inc. Veo StingRay" [15:05] nubae: ping [21:52] how often has this happened? [21:57] zerothis: the more people depend on software, the more it will be in control (rather, the ones who create/distribute it) [21:57] so choose your license / vendor wisely.