| EagleScreen | karlic version is 1.0.12 | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| EagleScreen | *karmic | 00:01 |
| ScottK | If you're using the sid version, hardy should be no problem at all. | 00:03 |
| ScottK | I think 1.0.13 knows about karmic even | 00:03 |
| EagleScreen | so I am obteining this problem http://pastebin.com/d55d796a7 | 00:09 |
| EagleScreen | UBUNTU_MIRROR="fr.archive.ubuntu.com" is it right? | 00:12 |
| ScottK | EagleScreen: You probably would get better help on this sort of thing in #ubuntu-motu | 00:13 |
| EagleScreen | thanks | 00:14 |
| ScottK | KDE 4.2.2 all uploaded to intrepid-backports, now it's just waiting for the build. | 00:49 |
| quassel208 | where does kubuntu install icons to ? | 01:10 |
| JontheEchidna | /usr/share/icons | 01:16 |
| claydoh | Riddell: was that a ping :) | 01:24 |
| quassel208 | jontheechida why dont my kde icons that i updated with svn, dont show up in my taskbar | 01:26 |
| ScottK | vorian: Are you planning on coordinating 4.2.3? | 01:27 |
| JontheEchidna | I could coordinate if vorian wants a break, if someone would provide a batcave | 01:37 |
| JontheEchidna | oh wait, I'll be gone over the weekend | 01:37 |
| JontheEchidna | nevermind then | 01:37 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: when 4.2.3? | 01:38 |
| JontheEchidna | It'll be tagged in two days | 01:38 |
| ScottK | Yep. | 01:38 |
| JontheEchidna | meaning we'll probably start working on it in three days | 01:38 |
| lex79 | \o/ | 01:38 |
| ScottK | Got 4.2.2 done into intrepid-backports just in time. | 01:39 |
| ScottK | Riddell: We really ought to bake a plan for 4.2.3 here pretty quick. | 01:39 |
| ScottK | Next week I'm working 2000 - 0600 UTC in a facility with no internet access and will be stuck with hotel wifi. I don't think I'm they right person. | 01:41 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: I have become kubuntu member before starting to work? | 01:41 |
| JontheEchidna | I don't think that you have to be one, no. | 01:42 |
| ScottK | seele: Nice discussion on amarok usability | 01:45 |
| ScottK | Dear Launchpad: Please peddle faster. | 01:46 |
| seele | ScottK: thanks, i hope they find it useful | 01:48 |
| ScottK | seele: You're welcome. Thanks to the action on my Quassel notification it only took one click to get here to reply .... | 01:49 |
| ScottK | Speaking of usablility ... | 01:49 |
| seele | lol | 01:52 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Thanks again for Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph (and a written procedure on how to keep it up to date). As always it made getting the KDE builds in the right order a lot easier. | 02:27 |
| ScottK | ryanakca: I'm just finishing up with adding KDE 4.2.2 to intrepid-backports. Once it's done on i386/lpia/amd64 I'm going to remove it from the kubuntu-experimental PPA. It does occur to me that the upgrade instructions in kubuntu.org may need updating ... | 02:50 |
| lex79 | Kubuntu-dev keep up-to-date kde packages with kubuntu-dev-tools? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment | 02:54 |
| vorian | :o | 04:18 |
| vorian | the batcave | 04:18 |
| shtylman | something needs to be done about the not connected ethernet "plug" on the network widget | 05:46 |
| shtylman | it doesn't look like anything network related...had several users give that feedback | 05:47 |
| shtylman | and these are people that have been using linux for quite a while :) | 05:47 |
| ScottK | sebas was here earlier and agreed the icons need work. | 05:48 |
| shtylman | indeed | 05:49 |
| shtylman | and the wifi icon works poorly on lighter backgrounds... | 05:49 |
| shtylman | oh and ScottK you might be interested...I couldn't get too much info before my friend just formatted, but he tried the update app from intrepid to Jaunty and it didn't work. | 05:52 |
| shtylman | said it never really got past the first step | 05:52 |
| shtylman | this was over wireless though, but still...kinda an unpleasant experience if someone was just trying it and did'nt know better | 05:52 |
| shtylman | I think part of the problem is the sheer number of packages to update | 05:53 |
| ScottK | I upgraded my laptop over wireless and it was no problem. | 05:53 |
| shtylman | ScottK: oh...I am sure it works...just sharing alternate stories and such | 05:53 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 05:53 |
| shtylman | I think part of the problem was that it failed once and had to be killed manually cause it was just hanging | 05:54 |
| shtylman | that I am sure had some very bad side effects | 05:54 |
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| ScottK-laptop | ScottK: Ping | 06:19 |
| eagles0513875 | morning | 07:33 |
| Riddell | that'll be Karmic open | 09:39 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hooray (: | 09:40 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: would it be 4.3 series straight away? | 09:40 |
| Riddell | I'd rather merge then go to 4.3 when the beta is out, too much possibility for error doing two two at once | 09:41 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ah, yes, from beta and forward I meant | 09:41 |
| Tm_T | I'm still trying to get funding so I could get more involved on KDE and its working in Ubuntu (edu) | 09:42 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: going for that finnish summer of code again? | 10:01 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: nope, too old, I got some "expert/advocate" gigs for summer but that's not enough | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | glad I got my health getting better still | 10:02 |
| a|wen | any preferences for where to upload a new shapshot on the network manager widget? kubuntu-experimental is fine? | 10:20 |
| Mamarok | Morning all | 10:25 |
| Mamarok | we have problems with the backtraces from Jaunty: the amarok-dbg package is useless: | 10:26 |
| Mamarok | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368470 | 10:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 368470 in amarok "missing debugging symbols for amarok" [Undecided,New] | 10:26 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: is the amarok-dbgsym package any better? (might be a chance that, that one works instead) | 10:27 |
| Mamarok | I can't test, I have Amarok-SVN here only, will ask some folks over at #amarok | 10:29 |
| Mamarok | a|wen: and that package would be in the repos? | 10:30 |
| a|wen | Mamarok: they have their own repository; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 10:31 |
| Mamarok | thanks, will have a look | 10:31 |
| Riddell | a|wen: -experimental is fine yes | 10:33 |
| * a|wen starts uploading | 10:34 | |
| eagles0513875 | morning guys | 10:56 |
| a|wen | morning eagles0513875 | 11:06 |
| a|wen | ScottK: regarding the kdelibs 4.2.2 backport ... it might be worth adding kubuntu_69_do_not_show_plasma_popups_over_screensaver.diff to it; that was one of the very big annoyances with 4.2.2 | 11:07 |
| ScottK | a|wen: Yes. I agree. Give me a package and I'll upload it. | 11:08 |
| * Riddell uploads his first package to karmic | 11:08 | |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: :) morning | 11:09 |
| * eagles0513875 cheers at Riddell | 11:09 | |
| eagles0513875 | amarok 2.1 is looking rather promising as well :) i have it currently installed no issues here | 11:10 |
| eagles0513875 | any bugs for upstream that anyone has come across this am | 11:11 |
| ghostcube | hi :) | 11:14 |
| eagles0513875 | morning :) | 11:15 |
| a|wen | ScottK: i have set it to testbuild while i'm out for a few hours ... you'll get a debdiff when i'm back | 11:21 |
| * a|wen adds two merges to his to-do list for tonight as well | 11:22 | |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 11:23 |
| eagles0513875 | can i ask a slightly offtopic question about a channel | 11:23 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: nice sig ;-) | 11:24 |
| Riddell | I noticed that too | 11:25 |
| eagles0513875 | is there a translations channel | 11:25 |
| dpm | eagles0513875: #ubuntu-translators on this same server | 11:25 |
| eagles0513875 | thanks dpm | 11:26 |
| dpm | np | 11:26 |
| Riddell | dpm: you have hilights working I take it :) | 11:26 |
| dpm | Riddell: I'm just super quick ;) | 11:26 |
| dpm | haha | 11:26 |
| eagles0513875 | dpm: does taht channel also go for kubuntu translations as well | 11:27 |
| dpm | eagles0513875: yes, of course! | 11:28 |
| eagles0513875 | ok dpm just checking | 11:28 |
| eagles0513875 | seems dead in there though :( | 11:28 |
| dpm | eagles0513875: you mean dead in the sense that it only took two minutes for your question to be answered ;) | 11:29 |
| eagles0513875 | lol dpm didnt notice you were in there | 11:29 |
| dpm | eagles0513875: np :) | 11:30 |
| eagles0513875 | anyone got any thing that needs testing | 11:51 |
| Riddell | eagles0513875: bug 368497 (not sure if it's in the archive yet) | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368497 in acpid "/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh does not check for KDE 4" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368497 | 12:00 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: that means apt-cache search or apt-cache policy it and see what repo its in | 12:01 |
| Riddell | yes, it'll be in jaunty-proposed if it's available | 12:02 |
| tsimpson | what do we do about bugs in the kde3 remix? | 12:02 |
| tsimpson | specifically bug #368331 | 12:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368331 in kubuntu-meta "kubuntu-desktop-kde3 states unmet dependencies, even after sudo apt-get -f install " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368331 | 12:02 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: i have subscribed to that bug and will get to testing in a few hours time | 12:08 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: question re the bug you gave me whats in the repos is 1.0.6-9ubuntu4 im guessing ubuntu 5 is still in the pipline is that my correct understanding | 12:12 |
| Riddell | tsimpson: close them, we don't support it | 12:13 |
| tsimpson | ok, just wanted confirmation | 12:13 |
| Riddell | tsimpson: maybe he'll want to make a product in launchpad for it if he wants bugs but he hasn't yet | 12:13 |
| tsimpson | yeah, I looked for one but could not find it | 12:13 |
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| * eagles0513875 waits to test the new acpid package that Riddell pointed the bug to | 12:17 | |
| eagles0513875 | oouch | 12:20 |
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| sebas | Riddell: in case Jorge has re-sent the invitation already ... I didn't receive it | 12:38 |
| eagles0513875 | would anyone like me to package a newer version of kvirc 4.0 which is still in svn | 12:40 |
| Riddell | sebas: re-poked him | 12:41 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: you think i should package a newer version of kvirc 4.0 which is still in svn | 12:42 |
| Riddell | eagles0513875: can do if there's new stuff we would want and it's a good time to package (no notable bugs) | 12:43 |
| Riddell | there's plenty merges to be done if you're in a packaging mood | 12:43 |
| eagles0513875 | well currently kvirc in jaunty repos seems to be 4.0 which is still in th ekvirc testing trunk | 12:44 |
| eagles0513875 | !packaging | 12:44 |
| ubottu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 12:44 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: must commend you on your work for kde. alot of the bugs i see are with gnome | 12:45 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: can i ask you another question re kubuntu and clustering. would we want more packages for clustering or clustering isnt a big thing for ubuntu | 12:49 |
| sebas | Riddell: thx | 12:54 |
| Riddell | eagles0513875: that's something the server team will care about | 12:55 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: just wondering since im gonna be packaging i would also package cluster related stuff if there is any new things that are not in repos | 12:56 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: is there a server devel channel | 12:56 |
| Riddell | I expect so | 12:57 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: just want an opinion how would you feel about merging apt-get and apt-build | 12:58 |
| ghostcube | merging what ? | 13:06 |
| ScottK | eagles0513875: You really need to stay on topic. | 13:10 |
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| * eagles0513875 bbl guys | 13:26 | |
| Mamarok | ghostcube: beware with that fjallagyldir chap, he is a Gentoo user and has been trolling around this morning... | 13:27 |
| Sput | always them gentoo users! | 13:36 |
| ghostcube | Mamarok: oh | 13:41 |
| ghostcube | Mamarok: thx i havent known this | 13:41 |
| Mamarok | Sput: exactly | 13:48 |
| eagles0513875 | !packaging | 14:02 |
| ubottu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 14:02 |
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| eagles0513875 | Riddell: are you around bro i have a question regarding the acpid bug you want me to test from earlier | 14:29 |
| Riddell | eagles0513875: mm? | 14:32 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: i did an apt-cache policy after adding the proposed repo and the current version that is out. is the 64bit version still being built of ubuntu5 version that is going into karmic | 14:33 |
| Riddell | you want 1.0.6-9ubuntu4.9.04.3 from jaunty-proposed | 14:34 |
| eagles0513875 | ok just checking | 14:34 |
| eagles0513875 | and adding that repo all of a sudden makes kpackagekit not let me open my source list | 14:34 |
| Riddell | software-properties-kde doesn't start? | 14:35 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: it doesnt open teh sources.lst from package manager | 14:36 |
| eagles0513875 | the button goes grey like its opening something then nothing comes up | 14:37 |
| Riddell | what happens when you start software-properties-kde manually? | 14:37 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: it works that way but not through kpackagekit | 14:38 |
| eagles0513875 | its strange how that repo breaks software-properties-kde from loading through kpackagekit | 14:38 |
| eagles0513875 | brb gonna test acpid | 14:41 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: that acpid fix has worked :) | 14:46 |
| Riddell | groovy | 14:47 |
| JontheEchidna | Yay, karmic's open | 14:48 |
| eagles0513875 | afternoon JontheEchidna | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | morning here :) | 14:48 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: should i mention that on the bug report. also thing is i tested this on a 64bit system not sure if the same outcome will occur on 32bit | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: automoc can definitely be synced, the delta is just debian/changelog and the maintainer field | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: I think cmake can be synced to. The delta is your quickie cmake-gui packaging, debian now has a more permanent solution | 14:50 |
| Riddell | eagles0513875: yes mention it on the bug report please. it's the same code, just shell scripting so same on all platforms | 14:51 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are beautiful! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges | Meeting http://www.doodle.com/3hvuw76ydubbgseg | ||
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: ok will do. | 14:52 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: is there a way if we have konqueror as default webbrowser when clicking on links it opens up a new tab instead of a new window | 14:52 |
| Riddell | yes, is user question, tickbox somewhere in config options | 14:53 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: got it :) | 14:55 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: if there is anything else that needs testing let me know | 14:57 |
| Riddell | agateau: are you guys registering specs for UDS? | 15:05 |
| agateau | Riddell: not that I am aware | 15:06 |
| * eagles0513875 is ready to kill kpackagekit | 15:06 | |
| agateau | Riddell: better ask on #ayatana | 15:06 |
| Riddell | I sorted https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs into some categories for specs | 15:22 |
| eagles0513875 | nice | 15:22 |
| Riddell | sebas: I'm told to tell you to book travel toot sweet | 15:23 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: if i take on some issues with kpackagekit would you be willing to mentor me as how to fix them or are you busy | 15:23 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: amarok 2.1 beta 1 packages for jaunty are in the experimental ppa right? | 15:23 |
| eagles0513875 | Nightrose: ya the are | 15:24 |
| Riddell | eagles0513875: can you code? kpacakgekit is fairly complex, I don't know much about how its internals work | 15:24 |
| eagles0513875 | Nightrose: have it on here already and that is something to consider for karmic as well | 15:24 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: we get a lot of negative feedback since the jaunty release with 2.0.2 and I am trying to write a carefully worded article so at least some of them know where to get a newer improved version | 15:24 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: dunno let me look | 15:24 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: i would love to learn | 15:24 |
| neversfelde | reminds me of that amarok ipod stuff :/ | 15:25 |
| Nightrose | neversfelde: ? | 15:25 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: amarok - 2:2.0.90mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 | 15:25 |
| Riddell | is in there | 15:25 |
| Nightrose | excellent | 15:25 |
| Nightrose | thanks | 15:25 |
| neversfelde | Nightrose: I wnated to have a look at 2.1 beta to make it work with ipods | 15:25 |
| Nightrose | neversfelde: go go go! :D | 15:26 |
| === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are beautiful! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | Sync/Merges: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html | Meeting http://www.doodle.com/3hvuw76ydubbgseg | ||
| neversfelde | :) | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | i have 2.1 on here as we speak no issues so far knock on wood | 15:26 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: cor, what's that? | 15:27 |
| neversfelde | Nightrose: I kow amarok devs will never tell when a release is planned, but that would be to much work, if beta2 is release tomorrow? | 15:27 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: it shows the rdepends of kubuntu-dekstop and their versions in $DEV VERSION and sid | 15:27 |
| JontheEchidna | it's quite nifty | 15:28 |
| Nightrose | neversfelde: we announce tagging on our packagers list | 15:28 |
| eagles0513875 | neversfelde: they mentioed for 2.1 in about a month or so | 15:28 |
| Nightrose | neversfelde: and beta 2/final is at least two weeks away still i'd say | 15:28 |
| neversfelde | Nightrose: k, than I will try it | 15:28 |
| Nightrose | thanks :) | 15:28 |
| neversfelde | after I have fixed my girlfriends vista laptop :( | 15:29 |
| * JontheEchidna steps out for a bit | 15:33 | |
| Nightrose | Riddell: JontheEchidna: ScottK: http://pastebin.com/d16ee771f <- comments on getting that to planet kde and ubuntu? any additions? | 15:47 |
| eagles0513875 | Nightrose: Jon has stepped out | 15:48 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: do you want me to give you the link for the acpid bug i tested | 15:48 |
| Nightrose | we are honestly a little suprised by the amount of negative feedback since the jaunty release - we hoped we had finished with that :( | 15:48 |
| eagles0513875 | negative feed back of amarok or the release as a whole | 15:49 |
| Nightrose | amarok 2.0.2 | 15:49 |
| Nightrose | which is kinda understandable - after all we got it back then as well | 15:49 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: "consider downloading packages from the website and installing them with dpkg." I'd say "deactivate the repository after you have installed amarok" | 15:49 |
| Nightrose | ok | 15:49 |
| eagles0513875 | Nightrose: what kinda negativity are we talking about though cuz in all honesty i havent had any issues with 2.0.2 | 15:50 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: good otherwise | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | otoh it shows that kubuntu is quite sucessful and probably the most widely used distro among our users ;-) | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: thanks :) | 15:50 |
| eagles0513875 | :) | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | eagles0513875: people missing features mostly | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | not liking the look | 15:50 |
| Nightrose | the usual stuff | 15:50 |
| eagles0513875 | Nightrose: i cant go back to version 1 | 15:51 |
| Riddell | rgreening, shtylman: I e-mailed you, gmail sometimes thinks I'm spam so let me know if it gets through | 15:52 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: ping | 15:52 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: i think we should really push a|wen's plasma network manager widget forward as an update. i have someone complaining bout entering the password twice. once for the wallet then 2nd password to connect to the wifi after opening the wallet which has the stored password | 15:56 |
| Riddell | yes, but it goes against the normal SRU procedure (tagetted minimal patches only) so it would need lots of testing to even be considered | 15:57 |
| ghostcube | anyone owning an ipod and running amarok 2.0.9 from ppa jaunty | 15:58 |
| ghostcube | and likes to test something | 15:58 |
| ghostcube | :D | 15:58 |
| eagles0513875 | ghostcube: i think neversfelde might have one he was in here talking bout it earlier | 15:58 |
| eagles0513875 | i have a zune but that is no help | 15:58 |
| ghostcube | hmm, ok thx will ask him | 15:59 |
| ghostcube | neversfelde: ping | 15:59 |
| eagles0513875 | ghostcube: i think hes off fixing his gf's vista laptop :( | 15:59 |
| ghostcube | uff | 16:00 |
| ghostcube | :D | 16:00 |
| eagles0513875 | patience young grasshopper lol | 16:00 |
| ghostcube | virus inside switch to anything else | 16:00 |
| ghostcube | oO | 16:00 |
| a|wen | Nightrose: thx ... you need a good sig :) ... i even use it when replying to ubuntu-lists ;) | 16:00 |
| eagles0513875 | Riddell: testing like what static ips etc | 16:00 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: ;-) i like my sig! | 16:01 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: can i give your ppa so someone else can download the plasma widget you repackaged last ngiht | 16:01 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: a new version was uploaded (or actually 99,9% the same as the one you have) was uploaded to kubuntu-experimental | 16:02 |
| eagles0513875 | oh really | 16:02 |
| * eagles0513875 goes looking for the memo | 16:02 | |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: so just have them test that one | 16:02 |
| eagles0513875 | whats the .1 percent that is different | 16:02 |
| a|wen | a changelog entry | 16:02 |
| eagles0513875 | meh | 16:03 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: ill test static ip when i get home see if there are any issues with that | 16:03 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: okay; cool | 16:04 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: dunno why i have a hunch that is still a problem with the new network management system | 16:05 |
| a|wen | a hunch? | 16:06 |
| a|wen | ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/kde4libs_4.2.2-0ubuntu1~intrepid2.debdiff | 16:06 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: the old network manager for some reason they couldnt fix the static ip issue with the gui. im hoping that isnt the same thing this time around | 16:06 |
| * a|wen will try an intrepid 4.1.4 to 4.2.2 upgrade on his netbook later tonight :) | 16:07 | |
| eagles0513875 | good luck a|wen | 16:07 |
| ghostcube | hmm 4.1.4 to 4.2 worked fine | 16:07 |
| ghostcube | as i did it last time | 16:07 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: well i have no idea what has been fixed or not in the svn snapshot | 16:07 |
| * eagles0513875 needs to figure out how to package an updated svn version of kvirc 4 since its still in testing | 16:08 | |
| a|wen | ghostcube: i'm pretty sure it is going amazingly smooth :) ... and if not, then i'll just need to fix the packages | 16:08 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: will you be willing to mentor me in packaging something | 16:09 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: i can try; but in any case, the collaborative knowledge in this channel when just asking around is pretty amazing :) ... it's hopefully kde related ;P | 16:11 |
| a|wen | i'm back in a bit ... need to get my sound working again (every time an update includes a hal restart my sound dies!) | 16:12 |
| eagles0513875 | well the current kvirc 4.0 is still in beta | 16:12 |
| eagles0513875 | im suprised it made it to jaunty | 16:12 |
| eagles0513875 | wb a|wen | 16:19 |
| a|wen | ahh, much better | 16:19 |
| eagles0513875 | have no idea how but my default audio device always dies on me and i end up use the pulseaudio driver | 16:20 |
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| eagles0513875 | be back on from home | 16:23 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: top quality merging there | 16:51 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: thanks :) | 16:51 |
| JontheEchidna | So I heard about an archive reorganization for karmic | 16:52 |
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| JontheEchidna | in regards to main/universe | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | got any info on that? | 16:52 |
| Riddell | I don't really, I expect we'll hear more at UDS | 16:52 |
| Riddell | but hopefully we'll be able to open up Kubuntu uploads to people easier | 16:52 |
| JontheEchidna | nice, sponsorship is getting old fast | 16:53 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: maybe time you went for core-dev then :) | 16:53 |
| jpds | JontheEchidna: Last I was told (last Thursday) - it's not going to happen any time soon. | 16:53 |
| JontheEchidna | ok, so then going for core-dev would make sense | 16:53 |
| JontheEchidna | Speaking of sponsorship... could someone take a look at bug 368657 please? | 16:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368657 in plasma-widget-quickaccess "New upstream release (QuickAccess 0.8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368657 | 16:54 |
| JontheEchidna | eek, akonadi got rejected | 16:56 |
| Riddell | oh I got the tar from debian, bad idea | 16:59 |
| Riddell | is there no bug for the kpackagekit "failed to fork" issue? | 16:59 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: there is, just a second | 17:00 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 272410 | 17:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 272410 in packagekit "packagekit says: The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272410 | 17:00 |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: anything for upstream | 17:01 |
| JontheEchidna | eagles0513875: you might find this useful: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport | 17:02 |
| JontheEchidna | the column at the very end shows a list of bugs that need forwarding | 17:02 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: quickaccess uploaded | 17:02 |
| JontheEchidna | \o/ | 17:02 |
| shtylman | Riddell: got it... (and yea...for some reason it was in spam) | 17:03 |
| eagles0513875 | !packaging | 17:05 |
| ubottu | The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports | 17:05 |
| Riddell | shtylman: fooey, guess gmail still doesn't like my server | 17:05 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: going to test out the widget with a static ip | 17:05 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, cool. kdetoys is in universe so that means I could upload the merge myself... | 17:06 |
| JontheEchidna | but probably best to wait until after 4.2.3 | 17:06 |
| a|wen | Nightrose: so where was the sig you was so proud of :) | 17:06 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: heh nothing special - just saying "Lydia Pintscher - amarok community manager" andlinking to my claimid profile and amarok, kde and kubuntu ;-) | 17:08 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: this looks promising | 17:09 |
| claydoh | Riddell: so am I the stalker or are you :) | 17:09 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: its ignoring the static ip all together | 17:10 |
| * a|wen thinks it sounds like Nightrose has a lot of hats | 17:10 | |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: so nothing new i guess? | 17:10 |
| eagles0513875 | nope | 17:10 |
| eagles0513875 | also a|wen it seems to revert the subnet mask to 0 instead of what i put in | 17:11 |
| eagles0513875 | and it ignores the static ip all together | 17:11 |
| a|wen | well at least it recognices that you have a network card | 17:12 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: heh maaaaaaaaaybe | 17:12 |
| a|wen | :) | 17:12 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: if it wasnt for the awesome kubuntu team adding the patches for my wifi card to the kernel i would be swearing to patch the kernel | 17:13 |
| * eagles0513875 gets to filing bugs upstream | 17:13 | |
| eagles0513875 | :) | 17:13 |
| * a|wen better secretly send the credit on to the kernel team ,) | 17:14 | |
| Nightrose | http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2009/04/28/amarok-2-in-kubuntu-jaunty/ <- can someone answer that comment? | 17:15 |
| shtylman | Riddell: I think it doesn't much like the fact that from is different from the actual sender :/ | 17:16 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: my other laptop had a bcm4311 card this laptop has rev2 which uses same fwcutter | 17:17 |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: sry to interrupt you but that link you gave me the last column do those bugs all have to go upstream | 17:19 |
| JontheEchidna | the last column is a list of bugs that should go upstream, yes | 17:19 |
| eagles0513875 | ok just making sure cuz i see some bugs triaged and wishlists just making sure | 17:20 |
| * eagles0513875 runs to stationer | 17:21 | |
| shtylman | Riddell: should any installer topics go on that page (of ideas)? | 17:21 |
| nixternal | jeesh, I am disappointed with you all...nobody has been poking KDE/Kubuntu questions at Mark during OpenWeek yet :p | 17:23 |
| Riddell | shtylman: yes | 17:24 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: no idea, maybe he could do pinning, but really easiest just to install then deactive | 17:26 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: thought so | 17:26 |
| Nightrose | thx | 17:26 |
| a|wen | Nightrose: it is not really possible that way; apt-preferences will always stick with the lowest pinning it seems ... but I've added a slight alternative | 17:32 |
| Nightrose | a|wen: thanks :) | 17:33 |
| * Riddell bops Nightrose | 17:33 | |
| Riddell | oh wait, wrong bop! | 17:33 |
| * Riddell bops nixternal | 17:33 | |
| Nightrose | *lol* | 17:33 |
| a|wen | Nightrose: no problem ... I started learning quite a bit of apt-preferences after loosing my kubuntu installation ~20-30% to debian unstable | 17:34 |
| Nightrose | heh | 17:36 |
| Riddell | freeflyi1g: are you coming to UDS? | 17:37 |
| nixternal | what is wrong with asking the QA question..the first question was done in fun...if there is no sense of humor damnit, then I don't know....the 2nd Q was serious, as the Ubuntu QA side is doing amazing work | 17:38 |
| nixternal | tired of people boohooing today.... | 17:38 |
| * Riddell hugs nixternal | 17:42 | |
| nixternal | silly screen-profiles | 17:42 |
| nixternal | I always fat finger some key combo that just messes it all up...I can't reproduce it because I don't know what combo I hit :) | 17:43 |
| a|wen | yay, Amarok news on the local open source planet again ... new fancy stuff for amarok 2.2 | 17:44 |
| Nightrose | heh | 17:45 |
| Nightrose | by nikolaj? | 17:45 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: same here - and I don't have fat fingers :( | 17:45 |
| nixternal | oh I do | 17:45 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 17:45 |
| a|wen | Nightrose: exactly ;) | 17:46 |
| * JontheEchidna testbuilds kdesvn 1.3.0 | 17:48 | |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: akonadi failed to build on amd64? | 17:49 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: all archs it seems | 17:49 |
| JontheEchidna | failed to link mysqld to akonadi-mysqld | 17:49 |
| JontheEchidna | investigating | 17:50 |
| Riddell | thanks | 17:50 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: do you merge with debian? | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | a|wen: yeah | 17:50 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, I probably should have asked if you were doing so first... hope I'm not duplicating effort/stepping on your toes | 17:51 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: never made it further than my todo-list ... so i'll just cross it out :) | 17:52 |
| JontheEchidna | :) | 17:52 |
| eagles0513875 | im back | 17:52 |
| nixternal | sabdfl: I appologize if I upset or made you sad with my Kubuntu question...it was done in good spirit and to be fun, not be an ass | 17:56 |
| seele | ? | 17:57 |
| nixternal | I was having fun during his Q&A and he got sad, and then the world fell apart with people messaging like I just broke their little glass house | 17:58 |
| * seele rolls her eyes | 17:58 | |
| txwikinger_work | nixternal: ROFL | 17:58 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, I don't understand this akonadi build failure | 18:02 |
| rickspencer3 | nixternal: I think there's a good chance that sabdfl can take it :) | 18:03 |
| lkraider | hello, I'm trying to modify a kubuntu live-cd, and want to setup some programs to autostart when kde loads | 18:07 |
| lkraider | I tried adding some scripts on .kde/autostart but they don't start when the kde session loads | 18:08 |
| lkraider | (it's kde 3.5.10) | 18:08 |
| Riddell | .desktop files in /usr/share/autostart/ should work | 18:09 |
| lkraider | so .sh scripts don't work? | 18:09 |
| lkraider | just tried a .desktop file and it works, yey :) | 18:13 |
| lkraider | tried a bash script and it didn't | 18:13 |
| lkraider | thanks :) | 18:13 |
| nixternal | lkraider: the bash script is executable right? I have plenty of bash scripts in .kde/autostart that work fine | 18:14 |
| lkraider | they work on an installed system, but I couldn't make it work on a remastered live cd | 18:14 |
| nixternal | ahh | 18:14 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: got a problem. I can't testbuild the fix without a pbuilder, and debootstrap doesnt' know about karmic | 18:30 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe if I change debian/changelog to jaunty temporarily.... | 18:31 |
| freeflyi1g | Riddell: yes | 18:33 |
| eagles0513875 | do we have an upstream contact for xorg-server | 18:41 |
| * eagles0513875 getting upset with phonon crashing constantly | 18:44 | |
| nixternal | anyone else have problems installing from the iso's provided by bittorrent? | 18:45 |
| nixternal | every single one of them has yet to work for me..the Kubuntu one gets the furthest though before it tanks | 18:45 |
| Mamarok | nixternal: the amd64 worked like a charm here | 18:48 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: pping | 18:49 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: pong | 18:49 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: dist-upgrade a jaunty chroot until debootstrap with karmic arrives | 18:50 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: had someone install the new widget from ppa seems like that first issue i had last night is only unique to 64bit linux | 18:50 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: okay ... strange; well i have heard of it before, so not a new thing | 18:51 |
| eagles0513875 | ok a|wen just thought i would let you know | 18:51 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: jup, thx | 18:51 |
| eagles0513875 | wait a|wen take that back seems like person is on a 64bit laptop as well and it didnt happen to him | 18:52 |
| eagles0513875 | im not sure it could be that i have a rather customized kubuntu | 18:52 |
| nixternal | Mamarok: hrmm, that is the one I am using...I get the Red Screen Of Death for "Select and install software" | 18:52 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: okay ... not impossible; it's hard to know what it is really | 18:53 |
| eagles0513875 | the static ip issue is something that goes way back to knetwork manager if there is anything i can do to help you wiht that let me know | 18:53 |
| Mamarok | nixternal: actually, didn't use the torrent, but downloaded it from the Swiss server | 18:53 |
| nixternal | ya, I am downloading from a server now | 18:54 |
| nixternal | hey Riddell, have you checked out the Network Manager from Pardus? It looks really good | 18:54 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: it has been there for a long time ... does it work for the nm-applet or whatever the ubuntu one is called? | 18:57 |
| eagles0513875 | the widget that is in the ppa | 18:57 |
| === Gon_ is now known as Gon | ||
| eagles0513875 | where upstream does thsi bug need to be reported https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/33106 | 18:59 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 33106 in grub-installer "reboot after install failed with Error 15: file not found" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:59 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: that one looks like a very old one ... sure that it is still relevant? | 19:00 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: if you look near bottom it reoccured in 8.10 | 19:01 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: okay ... well; lower-level stuff, we're not really experts in that here | 19:04 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: jon gave me that to report upstream so he didnt really specify what to focus on | 19:04 |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: may i pm ya | 19:04 |
| a|wen | ok | 19:04 |
| JontheEchidna | eagles0513875: just focus on the kde stuff | 19:05 |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: doesnt look like much on there kde wise | 19:06 |
| eagles0513875 | found something | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | there's kdebase | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | kdebase-workspace | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | kdepim | 19:06 |
| eagles0513875 | kde4libs | 19:06 |
| JontheEchidna | ... | 19:19 |
| JontheEchidna | the akonadi failure was due to a missing comma | 19:20 |
| JontheEchidna | ~order brain | 19:20 |
| * kubotu shouts: OMG!!!!! RED ALERT! We lost a brain. Get me a medic, NOW! | 19:20 | |
| * eagles0513875 yells nooooo JontheEchidna | 19:20 | |
| * eagles0513875 transplants my brain into hisbody | 19:20 | |
| * a|wen starts merging kile with debian | 19:26 | |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 19:27 |
| JontheEchidna | kdesvn uploaded if anyone was interested | 19:27 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: cool | 19:27 |
| * JontheEchidna does a final testbuild of fixed akonadi | 19:27 | |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: question regarding kdesvn does it follow compilation procedures of the kde techbase | 19:27 |
| JontheEchidna | dunno | 19:27 |
| nixternal | seele: excellent review of amarok...funny thing, everything you brought up in it, I have experienced, and from time-to-tie still experience | 19:28 |
| a|wen | damn, things are going slow from here | 19:29 |
| a|wen | ~order internet | 19:29 |
| * kubotu slides internet down the bar to a|wen | 19:29 | |
| eagles0513875 | ~order kubuntu | 19:29 |
| * kubotu tells eagles0513875 to better use http://shipit.kubuntu.org | 19:29 | |
| JontheEchidna | rofl | 19:29 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: you aint the only one with a slow net 10mbps cable and yet slow as hell due to bandwithcaps | 19:30 |
| eagles0513875 | that and bandwith throtelling from 7am to 11pm | 19:30 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: mine has roughtly been equal to 56 kbit/s modem most of tonight | 19:31 |
| * nixternal pets his 18MB down 6MB up, non-throttling internet | 19:31 | |
| a|wen | yay! karmic chroot, eta. 20 minutes | 19:33 |
| * JontheEchidna merges kwin-style-dekorator | 19:34 | |
| vorian | dekorator! | 19:36 |
| * a|wen notes it should be spelled "dekoratør" :P | 19:37 | |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: you busy building stuff | 19:38 |
| a|wen | rather multitasking ... reading mail, in a meeting and merging stuff | 19:39 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 19:39 |
| eagles0513875 | multitasking as well here | 19:39 |
| eagles0513875 | probably more then you are a|wen | 19:39 |
| seele | nixternal: yeah, that seems to be the feeling i'm getting from a lot of people | 19:41 |
| seele | nixternal: so far the devs have been receptive, so hopefully some good will come from it | 19:42 |
| nixternal | oh rock on | 19:43 |
| eagles0513875 | im digging 2.1 | 19:43 |
| seele | they also have a project in the season of usability, so maybe one of the students will continue working on the playlist, or run another study | 19:43 |
| nixternal | ya, I miss the KDE 3 version to be honest with this latest one, but I have to admit, once they iron it out, I don't think there will be a player any better or even close to be as good | 19:43 |
| eagles0513875 | anyone have any idea how kvirc 4.0 which is still beta how it made it into jaunty | 19:45 |
| nixternal | eagles0513875: I would suggest you search lp, as I am sure someone filed a packaging report for it | 19:46 |
| eagles0513875 | strange cuz there are features in the version in jaunty that are not working such as themes. im gonna be working on packaging a more uptodate svn package of it | 19:47 |
| * JontheEchidna facepalms | 19:47 | |
| JontheEchidna | the debian packaging for dekorator has direct modifications to the source :/ | 19:47 |
| JontheEchidna | ...and a .svn directory | 19:48 |
| * eagles0513875 face palms :( amarok stopped playing this stream for me | 19:52 | |
| * eagles0513875 takes that back there we go :) | 19:52 | |
| === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk | ||
| JontheEchidna | oh, wait. The direct changes were in our package | 19:57 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160156/ | 19:59 |
| === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin | ||
| * JontheEchidna uploads dekorator and grabs kdiff3 | 20:10 | |
| * eagles0513875 cheers at JontheEchidna and myself | 20:10 | |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ping | 20:11 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: pong | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/kde-l10n | 20:12 |
| apachelogger | should we move that to some other location? ... I would go for kubuntu-ppa, but since that is not existing yet | 20:12 |
| * a|wen is klimbing with the koala "pbuilder-aw karmic kile_2.1.0~svn958896-0ubuntu1.dsc" there we go :) | 20:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | just wondering, what's the difference from the l10n packages in the archive? | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: the ones in the archive don't have .mo as they were stripped | 20:13 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, right | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | so those pacakges provide the most original l10n experience | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | so I hope at least :D | 20:13 |
| apachelogger | woohoo, now systemsetings is speaking german all over the place | 20:14 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: so, should we use some other ppa? | 20:14 |
| JontheEchidna | prolly | 20:14 |
| * apachelogger just needs to change the dput config | 20:14 | |
| eagles0513875 | apachelogger: thanks for packaging amarok 2.1 btw for the ppa :) | 20:15 |
| Nightrose | JontheEchidna: can you have a look at the last comment at http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2009/04/28/amarok-2-in-kubuntu-jaunty/ please? | 20:20 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm | 20:21 |
| ghostcube | is 2.1 2.09 ppa | 20:21 |
| ghostcube | heh seems to have a ipod bug | 20:21 |
| JontheEchidna | bug 368470 | 20:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 368470 in amarok "missing debugging symbols for amarok" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368470 | 20:22 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: so, what ppa to use? | 20:22 |
| JontheEchidna | uuuh | 20:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I suppose we can always copy them over to the kubuntu-ppa once we create it, so kubuntu-members-kde4? | 20:22 |
| * apachelogger thinks one should be able to copy a whole ppa :D | 20:23 | |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: "amarok-dbgsym 2:2.0.2mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu3 [79,7MB]" ... i suppose that one works instead? | 20:24 |
| JontheEchidna | that one would work | 20:24 |
| JontheEchidna | doesn't help for the ppa packages though | 20:24 |
| JontheEchidna | ugh, why would the dbg packages be empty? | 20:24 |
| a|wen | true | 20:25 |
| apachelogger | build with DH_VERBOSE=1 | 20:25 |
| apachelogger | probably will tell you why | 20:25 |
| * JontheEchidna really, really hopes we can drop the whole mysql shit from the amarok packaging in karmic | 20:25 | |
| apachelogger | a|wen: what do you think? | 20:26 |
| apachelogger | kde-l10n ppa in kubuntu-memers-kde4? | 20:26 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: i vote for everything that provides better translations | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | good thing I am not admin there :S | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | ah screw it | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | someone promote https://edge.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/kde-l10n | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: ^ now superseds stock jaunty packages | 20:27 |
| apachelogger | once we have a more suited ppa, drop me a mail so I can reupload to that instead | 20:28 |
| * mgraesslin has to test :-) | 20:28 | |
| apachelogger | but until then ... I am $sick, so I should be in $bed | 20:28 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: i think Riddell was going to make the new setup very shortly | 20:29 |
| ghostcube | schweinegrippe Oo | 20:29 |
| apachelogger | ghostcube: as a matter of fact one of my co-workers actually was to mexico recently | 20:29 |
| ghostcube | heh good viruuses cant use dsl | 20:30 |
| ghostcube | heh | 20:30 |
| ghostcube | but go to doctor# | 20:30 |
| ghostcube | this isnt funny | 20:30 |
| apachelogger | I was, nothing to worry about for now | 20:31 |
| eagles0513875 | hey apachelogger im trying to link the upstream bug report to bug 269428 but its not letting me for some reason | 20:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269428 in kdenetwork "Too large window to select kmail contact equivalent to kopete contact" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269428 | 20:35 |
| * eagles0513875 knocked 2 bugs of that list | 20:42 | |
| a|wen | eh, the doc-dir is still /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML right? | 21:32 |
| JontheEchidna | yep | 21:36 |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: :) thanks for that link that will keep me busy for a while almost got all the knetwork bugs reported upstream | 21:37 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| a|wen | shouldn't we change that in our version of /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/variables.mk then? | 21:38 |
| * a|wen guesses that would break syncs :/ | 21:39 | |
| eagles0513875 | dont mean to interrupt i got an email back on 2 of the bugs i just reported upstream can i forward the emails to someone to possibly confirm the issue as fixed and on the other file a possible wish list as i am not understanding what the other bug is | 21:40 |
| JontheEchidna | a|wen: then we'd have to patch all of our kde3 apps to use kde4, which would be somewhat wrong | 21:41 |
| JontheEchidna | (otherwise khelpcenter wouldn't pick up their help pages) | 21:42 |
| JontheEchidna | the better approach would be to lobby to get the change in debian | 21:42 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: the long-term solution is to lobby then ... but does khelpcenter pick-up things in the kde4 dir? | 21:42 |
| JontheEchidna | nope, we changed all of our kde4 apps to use kde/ | 21:43 |
| JontheEchidna | and patched khelpcenter to look in kde | 21:43 |
| a|wen | okay; so everything that uses pkg-kde-tools will not work currently with khelpcenter | 21:44 |
| JontheEchidna | wha? | 21:44 |
| JontheEchidna | it should all work | 21:45 |
| a|wen | well, /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/variables.mk says to place the docs in kde4 | 21:45 |
| a|wen | -DHTML_INSTALL_DIR=/usr/share/doc/kde4/HTML | 21:46 |
| JontheEchidna | then every KDE app should ftbfs | 21:46 |
| a|wen | JontheEchidna: do we build against pkg-kde-tools at all? | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | we don't use that .mk file | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | that's what it is :) | 21:47 |
| JontheEchidna | we use kde4.mk | 21:48 |
| * a|wen increases the diff and decreases the size of debian/rules again | 21:48 | |
| eagles0513875 | can i forward some responses to 2 of the bugs i posted upstream | 21:49 |
| eagles0513875 | since i dont know how to respond | 21:49 |
| eagles0513875 | JontheEchidna: can i forward them to ya | 21:50 |
| JontheEchidna | sure | 21:50 |
| eagles0513875 | bug 144756 the upstream respons needs an answer | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 144756 in kdenetwork "proxy settings don't affect" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/144756 | 21:51 |
| eagles0513875 | as well as bug 269428 the upstream response needs answering if this bug has already been solved or not | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269428 in kdenetwork "Too large window to select kmail contact equivalent to kopete contact" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269428 | 21:51 |
| eagles0513875 | if you dont mind JontheEchidna | 21:52 |
| JontheEchidna | huh, for some reason bugs.kde.org isn't working for me | 21:53 |
| eagles0513875 | O_O | 21:53 |
| eagles0513875 | you broke something lol | 21:53 |
| JontheEchidna | well, you could see if its still a problem I suppose | 21:53 |
| eagles0513875 | how so | 21:54 |
| JontheEchidna | by testing? | 21:54 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 21:55 |
| * JontheEchidna goes to eat | 21:56 | |
| eagles0513875 | ill test that out in the morning late here | 21:56 |
| neversfelde | ghostcube: what should I test? | 22:04 |
| ghostcube | if ipod is usable in amarok 2.0.9 if you have one | 22:04 |
| neversfelde | ghostcube: nope, it is not usable atm | 22:06 |
| ghostcube | thx | 22:07 |
| neversfelde | ghostcube: it is a known issue | 22:07 |
| ghostcube | yep i told to some in amarok | 22:07 |
| ghostcube | need fix | 22:07 |
| neversfelde | yes :) | 22:08 |
| * a|wen is looking for someone who is 64-bit capable | 22:18 | |
| a|wen | plasma-widget-network-manager in kubuntu-experimental; is https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2009-April/002810.html reproducable on 64-bit? | 22:18 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: for you, when you have the time ^^ | 22:22 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: on the to do list for tomorrow | 22:23 |
| a|wen | ok | 22:24 |
| eagles0513875 | a|wen: i havent had that happen to me to be honest | 22:26 |
| eagles0513875 | i have removed like the widget of vp and what not no crashes | 22:26 |
| a|wen | eagles0513875: okay, hmm | 22:27 |
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| * eagles0513875 cheers got all the network bugs upstream :) | 22:40 | |
| eagles0513875 | night a|wen :) got all the knetwork bugs for upstream done :) | 22:42 |
| a|wen | nn eagles0513875 | 22:44 |
| * a|wen is out as well | 22:44 | |
| JontheEchidna | So, debian's kdewebdev is kde4 | 23:27 |
| JontheEchidna | should we follow? | 23:27 |
| seele | $2m a year on kubuntu and kde, huh? | 23:30 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: standards version for karmic is 3.8.1 ? | 23:31 |
| JontheEchidna | lex79: yeah, if it's not it will be once the proper package is synced/merged | 23:32 |
| JontheEchidna | a good policy is to always stay with what debian has | 23:33 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: ok, but if the packege is not in debian? | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | use the latest | 23:33 |
| lex79 | Can i bump standards-version? | 23:33 |
| JontheEchidna | in non-debian packages, yes | 23:33 |
| lex79 | yes, ok thanks | 23:34 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, and I see now that it is 3.8.1 since devscripts got uploaded this morning | 23:34 |
| lex79 | good | 23:35 |
| lex79 | uhm kdelibs5-dev not yet in karmic | 23:37 |
| lex79 | pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.4.2) but it is not installable | 23:37 |
| JontheEchidna | not necessarily, it just says its uninstallable | 23:38 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: this means that I can't build a package with pbuilder but I can attach debdiff in LP ? :P | 23:42 |
| JontheEchidna | sure | 23:42 |
| lex79 | very good :) | 23:42 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll see if I can testbuild it | 23:43 |
| JontheEchidna | this early on karmic is still similar enough to jaunty that it shouldn't make too much of a difference what it is testbuilt on | 23:43 |
| lex79 | so I can testbuild it with pbuilder-jaunty? | 23:44 |
| lex79 | before attach in LP | 23:45 |
| JontheEchidna | probably, though once pbuilder-karmic starts to work you really should use it | 23:45 |
| lex79 | ok | 23:45 |
| JontheEchidna | and if it fails now in pbuilder it'll probably fail in the archive, so uploading before it is fixed would be a bad idea | 23:46 |
| JontheEchidna | but maybe we can see what the problem is if you post the debdiff | 23:46 |
| lex79 | JontheEchidna: good lesson, thanks :) | 23:47 |
| JontheEchidna | actually, I take that back. you really should be testing on karmic | 23:47 |
| JontheEchidna | if it fails in karmic but not in jaunty it probably means that the archive has changed enough that you need to test in jaunty | 23:48 |
| JontheEchidna | but post the debdiff and I'll see if I can find the problem :) | 23:48 |
| lex79 | uhm it fails because I'm stupid :) kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.4.2) | 23:53 |
| lex79 | 4.4.2 ? | 23:53 |
| lex79 | LoL | 23:53 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 23:55 |
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