[00:01] karlic version is 1.0.12 [00:01] *karmic [00:03] If you're using the sid version, hardy should be no problem at all. [00:03] I think 1.0.13 knows about karmic even [00:09] so I am obteining this problem http://pastebin.com/d55d796a7 [00:12] UBUNTU_MIRROR="fr.archive.ubuntu.com" is it right? [00:13] EagleScreen: You probably would get better help on this sort of thing in #ubuntu-motu [00:14] thanks [00:49] KDE 4.2.2 all uploaded to intrepid-backports, now it's just waiting for the build. [01:10] where does kubuntu install icons to ? [01:16] /usr/share/icons [01:24] Riddell: was that a ping :) [01:26] jontheechida why dont my kde icons that i updated with svn, dont show up in my taskbar [01:27] vorian: Are you planning on coordinating 4.2.3? [01:37] I could coordinate if vorian wants a break, if someone would provide a batcave [01:37] oh wait, I'll be gone over the weekend [01:37] nevermind then [01:38] JontheEchidna: when 4.2.3? [01:38] It'll be tagged in two days [01:38] Yep. [01:38] meaning we'll probably start working on it in three days [01:38] \o/ [01:39] Got 4.2.2 done into intrepid-backports just in time. [01:39] Riddell: We really ought to bake a plan for 4.2.3 here pretty quick. [01:41] Next week I'm working 2000 - 0600 UTC in a facility with no internet access and will be stuck with hotel wifi. I don't think I'm they right person. [01:41] JontheEchidna: I have become kubuntu member before starting to work? [01:42] I don't think that you have to be one, no. [01:45] seele: Nice discussion on amarok usability [01:46] Dear Launchpad: Please peddle faster. [01:48] ScottK: thanks, i hope they find it useful [01:49] seele: You're welcome. Thanks to the action on my Quassel notification it only took one click to get here to reply .... [01:49] Speaking of usablility ... [01:52] lol [02:27] apachelogger: Thanks again for Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph (and a written procedure on how to keep it up to date). As always it made getting the KDE builds in the right order a lot easier. [02:50] ryanakca: I'm just finishing up with adding KDE 4.2.2 to intrepid-backports. Once it's done on i386/lpia/amd64 I'm going to remove it from the kubuntu-experimental PPA. It does occur to me that the upgrade instructions in kubuntu.org may need updating ... [02:54] Kubuntu-dev keep up-to-date kde packages with kubuntu-dev-tools? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment [04:18] :o [04:18] the batcave [05:46] something needs to be done about the not connected ethernet "plug" on the network widget [05:47] it doesn't look like anything network related...had several users give that feedback [05:47] and these are people that have been using linux for quite a while :) [05:48] sebas was here earlier and agreed the icons need work. [05:49] indeed [05:49] and the wifi icon works poorly on lighter backgrounds... [05:52] oh and ScottK you might be interested...I couldn't get too much info before my friend just formatted, but he tried the update app from intrepid to Jaunty and it didn't work. [05:52] said it never really got past the first step [05:52] this was over wireless though, but still...kinda an unpleasant experience if someone was just trying it and did'nt know better [05:53] I think part of the problem is the sheer number of packages to update [05:53] I upgraded my laptop over wireless and it was no problem. [05:53] ScottK: oh...I am sure it works...just sharing alternate stories and such [05:53] Sure. [05:54] I think part of the problem was that it failed once and had to be killed manually cause it was just hanging [05:54] that I am sure had some very bad side effects === word_ is now known as word [06:19] ScottK: Ping [07:33] morning [09:39] that'll be Karmic open [09:40] Riddell: hooray (: [09:40] Riddell: would it be 4.3 series straight away? [09:41] I'd rather merge then go to 4.3 when the beta is out, too much possibility for error doing two two at once [09:41] Riddell: ah, yes, from beta and forward I meant [09:42] I'm still trying to get funding so I could get more involved on KDE and its working in Ubuntu (edu) [10:01] Tm_T: going for that finnish summer of code again? [10:02] Riddell: nope, too old, I got some "expert/advocate" gigs for summer but that's not enough [10:02] glad I got my health getting better still [10:20] any preferences for where to upload a new shapshot on the network manager widget? kubuntu-experimental is fine? [10:25] Morning all [10:26] we have problems with the backtraces from Jaunty: the amarok-dbg package is useless: [10:26] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/368470 [10:26] Ubuntu bug 368470 in amarok "missing debugging symbols for amarok" [Undecided,New] [10:27] Mamarok: is the amarok-dbgsym package any better? (might be a chance that, that one works instead) [10:29] I can't test, I have Amarok-SVN here only, will ask some folks over at #amarok [10:30] a|wen: and that package would be in the repos? [10:31] Mamarok: they have their own repository; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash [10:31] thanks, will have a look [10:33] a|wen: -experimental is fine yes [10:34] * a|wen starts uploading [10:56] morning guys [11:06] morning eagles0513875 [11:07] ScottK: regarding the kdelibs 4.2.2 backport ... it might be worth adding kubuntu_69_do_not_show_plasma_popups_over_screensaver.diff to it; that was one of the very big annoyances with 4.2.2 [11:08] a|wen: Yes. I agree. Give me a package and I'll upload it. [11:08] * Riddell uploads his first package to karmic [11:09] a|wen: :) morning [11:09] * eagles0513875 cheers at Riddell [11:10] amarok 2.1 is looking rather promising as well :) i have it currently installed no issues here [11:11] any bugs for upstream that anyone has come across this am [11:14] hi :) [11:15] morning :) [11:21] ScottK: i have set it to testbuild while i'm out for a few hours ... you'll get a debdiff when i'm back [11:22] * a|wen adds two merges to his to-do list for tonight as well [11:23] Thanks. [11:23] can i ask a slightly offtopic question about a channel [11:24] a|wen: nice sig ;-) [11:25] I noticed that too [11:25] is there a translations channel [11:25] eagles0513875: #ubuntu-translators on this same server [11:26] thanks dpm [11:26] np [11:26] dpm: you have hilights working I take it :) [11:26] Riddell: I'm just super quick ;) [11:26] haha [11:27] dpm: does taht channel also go for kubuntu translations as well [11:28] eagles0513875: yes, of course! [11:28] ok dpm just checking [11:28] seems dead in there though :( [11:29] eagles0513875: you mean dead in the sense that it only took two minutes for your question to be answered ;) [11:29] lol dpm didnt notice you were in there [11:30] eagles0513875: np :) [11:51] anyone got any thing that needs testing [12:00] eagles0513875: bug 368497 (not sure if it's in the archive yet) [12:00] Launchpad bug 368497 in acpid "/etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh does not check for KDE 4" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368497 [12:01] Riddell: that means apt-cache search or apt-cache policy it and see what repo its in [12:02] yes, it'll be in jaunty-proposed if it's available [12:02] what do we do about bugs in the kde3 remix? [12:02] specifically bug #368331 [12:02] Launchpad bug 368331 in kubuntu-meta "kubuntu-desktop-kde3 states unmet dependencies, even after sudo apt-get -f install " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368331 [12:08] Riddell: i have subscribed to that bug and will get to testing in a few hours time [12:12] Riddell: question re the bug you gave me whats in the repos is 1.0.6-9ubuntu4 im guessing ubuntu 5 is still in the pipline is that my correct understanding [12:13] tsimpson: close them, we don't support it [12:13] ok, just wanted confirmation [12:13] tsimpson: maybe he'll want to make a product in launchpad for it if he wants bugs but he hasn't yet [12:13] yeah, I looked for one but could not find it === _r1__ is now known as _r1_ [12:17] * eagles0513875 waits to test the new acpid package that Riddell pointed the bug to [12:20] oouch === nhandler is now known as Guest21024 [12:38] Riddell: in case Jorge has re-sent the invitation already ... I didn't receive it [12:40] would anyone like me to package a newer version of kvirc 4.0 which is still in svn [12:41] sebas: re-poked him [12:42] Riddell: you think i should package a newer version of kvirc 4.0 which is still in svn [12:43] eagles0513875: can do if there's new stuff we would want and it's a good time to package (no notable bugs) [12:43] there's plenty merges to be done if you're in a packaging mood [12:44] well currently kvirc in jaunty repos seems to be 4.0 which is still in th ekvirc testing trunk [12:44] !packaging [12:44] The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports [12:45] Riddell: must commend you on your work for kde. alot of the bugs i see are with gnome [12:49] Riddell: can i ask you another question re kubuntu and clustering. would we want more packages for clustering or clustering isnt a big thing for ubuntu [12:54] Riddell: thx [12:55] eagles0513875: that's something the server team will care about [12:56] Riddell: just wondering since im gonna be packaging i would also package cluster related stuff if there is any new things that are not in repos [12:56] Riddell: is there a server devel channel [12:57] I expect so [12:58] Riddell: just want an opinion how would you feel about merging apt-get and apt-build [13:06] merging what ? [13:10] eagles0513875: You really need to stay on topic. === olujicz_ is now known as olujicz [13:26] * eagles0513875 bbl guys [13:27] ghostcube: beware with that fjallagyldir chap, he is a Gentoo user and has been trolling around this morning... [13:36] always them gentoo users! [13:41] Mamarok: oh [13:41] Mamarok: thx i havent known this [13:48] Sput: exactly [14:02] !packaging [14:02] The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports === k4v is now known as m4v [14:29] Riddell: are you around bro i have a question regarding the acpid bug you want me to test from earlier [14:32] eagles0513875: mm? [14:33] Riddell: i did an apt-cache policy after adding the proposed repo and the current version that is out. is the 64bit version still being built of ubuntu5 version that is going into karmic [14:34] you want 1.0.6-9ubuntu4.9.04.3 from jaunty-proposed [14:34] ok just checking [14:34] and adding that repo all of a sudden makes kpackagekit not let me open my source list [14:35] software-properties-kde doesn't start? [14:36] Riddell: it doesnt open teh sources.lst from package manager [14:37] the button goes grey like its opening something then nothing comes up [14:37] what happens when you start software-properties-kde manually? [14:38] Riddell: it works that way but not through kpackagekit [14:38] its strange how that repo breaks software-properties-kde from loading through kpackagekit [14:41] brb gonna test acpid [14:46] Riddell: that acpid fix has worked :) [14:47] groovy [14:48] Yay, karmic's open [14:48] afternoon JontheEchidna [14:48] morning here :) [14:49] Riddell: should i mention that on the bug report. also thing is i tested this on a 64bit system not sure if the same outcome will occur on 32bit [14:49] Riddell: automoc can definitely be synced, the delta is just debian/changelog and the maintainer field [14:50] Riddell: I think cmake can be synced to. The delta is your quickie cmake-gui packaging, debian now has a more permanent solution [14:51] eagles0513875: yes mention it on the bug report please. it's the same code, just shell scripting so same on all platforms === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are beautiful! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges | Meeting http://www.doodle.com/3hvuw76ydubbgseg [14:52] Riddell: ok will do. [14:52] Riddell: is there a way if we have konqueror as default webbrowser when clicking on links it opens up a new tab instead of a new window [14:53] yes, is user question, tickbox somewhere in config options [14:55] Riddell: got it :) [14:57] Riddell: if there is anything else that needs testing let me know [15:05] agateau: are you guys registering specs for UDS? [15:06] Riddell: not that I am aware [15:06] * eagles0513875 is ready to kill kpackagekit [15:06] Riddell: better ask on #ayatana [15:22] I sorted https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs into some categories for specs [15:22] nice [15:23] sebas: I'm told to tell you to book travel toot sweet [15:23] Riddell: if i take on some issues with kpackagekit would you be willing to mentor me as how to fix them or are you busy [15:23] Riddell: amarok 2.1 beta 1 packages for jaunty are in the experimental ppa right? [15:24] Nightrose: ya the are [15:24] eagles0513875: can you code? kpacakgekit is fairly complex, I don't know much about how its internals work [15:24] Nightrose: have it on here already and that is something to consider for karmic as well [15:24] Riddell: we get a lot of negative feedback since the jaunty release with 2.0.2 and I am trying to write a carefully worded article so at least some of them know where to get a newer improved version [15:24] Nightrose: dunno let me look [15:24] Riddell: i would love to learn [15:25] reminds me of that amarok ipod stuff :/ [15:25] neversfelde: ? [15:25] Nightrose: amarok - 2:2.0.90mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 [15:25] is in there [15:25] excellent [15:25] thanks [15:25] Nightrose: I wnated to have a look at 2.1 beta to make it work with ipods [15:26] neversfelde: go go go! :D === JontheEchidna changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: You are beautiful! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKarmicSpecs | Sync/Merges: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/kubuntu-desktop.html | Meeting http://www.doodle.com/3hvuw76ydubbgseg [15:26] :) [15:26] i have 2.1 on here as we speak no issues so far knock on wood [15:27] JontheEchidna: cor, what's that? [15:27] Nightrose: I kow amarok devs will never tell when a release is planned, but that would be to much work, if beta2 is release tomorrow? [15:27] Riddell: it shows the rdepends of kubuntu-dekstop and their versions in $DEV VERSION and sid [15:28] it's quite nifty [15:28] neversfelde: we announce tagging on our packagers list [15:28] neversfelde: they mentioed for 2.1 in about a month or so [15:28] neversfelde: and beta 2/final is at least two weeks away still i'd say [15:28] Nightrose: k, than I will try it [15:28] thanks :) [15:29] after I have fixed my girlfriends vista laptop :( [15:33] * JontheEchidna steps out for a bit [15:47] Riddell: JontheEchidna: ScottK: http://pastebin.com/d16ee771f <- comments on getting that to planet kde and ubuntu? any additions? [15:48] Nightrose: Jon has stepped out [15:48] Riddell: do you want me to give you the link for the acpid bug i tested [15:48] we are honestly a little suprised by the amount of negative feedback since the jaunty release - we hoped we had finished with that :( [15:49] negative feed back of amarok or the release as a whole [15:49] amarok 2.0.2 [15:49] which is kinda understandable - after all we got it back then as well [15:49] Nightrose: "consider downloading packages from the website and installing them with dpkg." I'd say "deactivate the repository after you have installed amarok" [15:49] ok [15:50] Nightrose: what kinda negativity are we talking about though cuz in all honesty i havent had any issues with 2.0.2 [15:50] Nightrose: good otherwise [15:50] otoh it shows that kubuntu is quite sucessful and probably the most widely used distro among our users ;-) [15:50] Riddell: thanks :) [15:50] :) [15:50] eagles0513875: people missing features mostly [15:50] not liking the look [15:50] the usual stuff [15:51] Nightrose: i cant go back to version 1 [15:52] rgreening, shtylman: I e-mailed you, gmail sometimes thinks I'm spam so let me know if it gets through [15:52] a|wen: ping [15:56] Riddell: i think we should really push a|wen's plasma network manager widget forward as an update. i have someone complaining bout entering the password twice. once for the wallet then 2nd password to connect to the wifi after opening the wallet which has the stored password [15:57] yes, but it goes against the normal SRU procedure (tagetted minimal patches only) so it would need lots of testing to even be considered [15:58] anyone owning an ipod and running amarok 2.0.9 from ppa jaunty [15:58] and likes to test something [15:58] :D [15:58] ghostcube: i think neversfelde might have one he was in here talking bout it earlier [15:58] i have a zune but that is no help [15:59] hmm, ok thx will ask him [15:59] neversfelde: ping [15:59] ghostcube: i think hes off fixing his gf's vista laptop :( [16:00] uff [16:00] :D [16:00] patience young grasshopper lol [16:00] virus inside switch to anything else [16:00] oO [16:00] Nightrose: thx ... you need a good sig :) ... i even use it when replying to ubuntu-lists ;) [16:00] Riddell: testing like what static ips etc [16:01] a|wen: ;-) i like my sig! [16:01] a|wen: can i give your ppa so someone else can download the plasma widget you repackaged last ngiht [16:02] eagles0513875: a new version was uploaded (or actually 99,9% the same as the one you have) was uploaded to kubuntu-experimental [16:02] oh really [16:02] * eagles0513875 goes looking for the memo [16:02] eagles0513875: so just have them test that one [16:02] whats the .1 percent that is different [16:02] a changelog entry [16:03] meh [16:03] a|wen: ill test static ip when i get home see if there are any issues with that [16:04] eagles0513875: okay; cool [16:05] a|wen: dunno why i have a hunch that is still a problem with the new network management system [16:06] a hunch? [16:06] ScottK: http://awen.dk/packages/kde4libs_4.2.2-0ubuntu1~intrepid2.debdiff [16:06] a|wen: the old network manager for some reason they couldnt fix the static ip issue with the gui. im hoping that isnt the same thing this time around [16:07] * a|wen will try an intrepid 4.1.4 to 4.2.2 upgrade on his netbook later tonight :) [16:07] good luck a|wen [16:07] hmm 4.1.4 to 4.2 worked fine [16:07] as i did it last time [16:07] eagles0513875: well i have no idea what has been fixed or not in the svn snapshot [16:08] * eagles0513875 needs to figure out how to package an updated svn version of kvirc 4 since its still in testing [16:08] ghostcube: i'm pretty sure it is going amazingly smooth :) ... and if not, then i'll just need to fix the packages [16:09] a|wen: will you be willing to mentor me in packaging something [16:11] eagles0513875: i can try; but in any case, the collaborative knowledge in this channel when just asking around is pretty amazing :) ... it's hopefully kde related ;P [16:12] i'm back in a bit ... need to get my sound working again (every time an update includes a hal restart my sound dies!) [16:12] well the current kvirc 4.0 is still in beta [16:12] im suprised it made it to jaunty [16:19] wb a|wen [16:19] ahh, much better [16:20] have no idea how but my default audio device always dies on me and i end up use the pulseaudio driver === barteqx is now known as siekacz [16:23] be back on from home [16:51] JontheEchidna: top quality merging there [16:51] Riddell: thanks :) [16:52] So I heard about an archive reorganization for karmic === cmvo_ is now known as cmvo [16:52] in regards to main/universe [16:52] got any info on that? [16:52] I don't really, I expect we'll hear more at UDS [16:52] but hopefully we'll be able to open up Kubuntu uploads to people easier [16:53] nice, sponsorship is getting old fast [16:53] JontheEchidna: maybe time you went for core-dev then :) [16:53] JontheEchidna: Last I was told (last Thursday) - it's not going to happen any time soon. [16:53] ok, so then going for core-dev would make sense [16:54] Speaking of sponsorship... could someone take a look at bug 368657 please? [16:54] Launchpad bug 368657 in plasma-widget-quickaccess "New upstream release (QuickAccess 0.8)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368657 [16:56] eek, akonadi got rejected [16:59] oh I got the tar from debian, bad idea [16:59] is there no bug for the kpackagekit "failed to fork" issue? [17:00] Riddell: there is, just a second [17:00] bug 272410 [17:00] Launchpad bug 272410 in packagekit "packagekit says: The backend took too much time to process the synchronous request - you need to fork!" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272410 [17:01] JontheEchidna: anything for upstream [17:02] eagles0513875: you might find this useful: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport [17:02] the column at the very end shows a list of bugs that need forwarding [17:02] JontheEchidna: quickaccess uploaded [17:02] \o/ [17:03] Riddell: got it... (and yea...for some reason it was in spam) [17:05] !packaging [17:05] The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports [17:05] shtylman: fooey, guess gmail still doesn't like my server [17:05] a|wen: going to test out the widget with a static ip [17:06] oh, cool. kdetoys is in universe so that means I could upload the merge myself... [17:06] but probably best to wait until after 4.2.3 [17:06] Nightrose: so where was the sig you was so proud of :) [17:08] a|wen: heh nothing special - just saying "Lydia Pintscher - amarok community manager" andlinking to my claimid profile and amarok, kde and kubuntu ;-) [17:09] a|wen: this looks promising [17:09] Riddell: so am I the stalker or are you :) [17:10] a|wen: its ignoring the static ip all together [17:10] * a|wen thinks it sounds like Nightrose has a lot of hats [17:10] eagles0513875: so nothing new i guess? [17:10] nope [17:11] also a|wen it seems to revert the subnet mask to 0 instead of what i put in [17:11] and it ignores the static ip all together [17:12] well at least it recognices that you have a network card [17:12] a|wen: heh maaaaaaaaaybe [17:12] :) [17:13] a|wen: if it wasnt for the awesome kubuntu team adding the patches for my wifi card to the kernel i would be swearing to patch the kernel [17:13] * eagles0513875 gets to filing bugs upstream [17:13] :) [17:14] * a|wen better secretly send the credit on to the kernel team ,) [17:15] http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2009/04/28/amarok-2-in-kubuntu-jaunty/ <- can someone answer that comment? [17:16] Riddell: I think it doesn't much like the fact that from is different from the actual sender :/ [17:17] a|wen: my other laptop had a bcm4311 card this laptop has rev2 which uses same fwcutter [17:19] JontheEchidna: sry to interrupt you but that link you gave me the last column do those bugs all have to go upstream [17:19] the last column is a list of bugs that should go upstream, yes [17:20] ok just making sure cuz i see some bugs triaged and wishlists just making sure [17:21] * eagles0513875 runs to stationer [17:21] Riddell: should any installer topics go on that page (of ideas)? [17:23] jeesh, I am disappointed with you all...nobody has been poking KDE/Kubuntu questions at Mark during OpenWeek yet :p [17:24] shtylman: yes [17:26] Nightrose: no idea, maybe he could do pinning, but really easiest just to install then deactive [17:26] Riddell: thought so [17:26] thx [17:32] Nightrose: it is not really possible that way; apt-preferences will always stick with the lowest pinning it seems ... but I've added a slight alternative [17:33] a|wen: thanks :) [17:33] * Riddell bops Nightrose [17:33] oh wait, wrong bop! [17:33] * Riddell bops nixternal [17:33] *lol* [17:34] Nightrose: no problem ... I started learning quite a bit of apt-preferences after loosing my kubuntu installation ~20-30% to debian unstable [17:36] heh [17:37] freeflyi1g: are you coming to UDS? [17:38] what is wrong with asking the QA question..the first question was done in fun...if there is no sense of humor damnit, then I don't know....the 2nd Q was serious, as the Ubuntu QA side is doing amazing work [17:38] tired of people boohooing today.... [17:42] * Riddell hugs nixternal [17:42] silly screen-profiles [17:43] I always fat finger some key combo that just messes it all up...I can't reproduce it because I don't know what combo I hit :) [17:44] yay, Amarok news on the local open source planet again ... new fancy stuff for amarok 2.2 [17:45] heh [17:45] by nikolaj? [17:45] nixternal: same here - and I don't have fat fingers :( [17:45] oh I do [17:45] ;-) [17:46] Nightrose: exactly ;) [17:48] * JontheEchidna testbuilds kdesvn 1.3.0 [17:49] JontheEchidna: akonadi failed to build on amd64? [17:49] Riddell: all archs it seems [17:49] failed to link mysqld to akonadi-mysqld [17:50] investigating [17:50] thanks [17:50] JontheEchidna: do you merge with debian? [17:50] a|wen: yeah [17:51] oh, I probably should have asked if you were doing so first... hope I'm not duplicating effort/stepping on your toes [17:52] JontheEchidna: never made it further than my todo-list ... so i'll just cross it out :) [17:52] :) [17:52] im back [17:56] sabdfl: I appologize if I upset or made you sad with my Kubuntu question...it was done in good spirit and to be fun, not be an ass [17:57] ? [17:58] I was having fun during his Q&A and he got sad, and then the world fell apart with people messaging like I just broke their little glass house [17:58] * seele rolls her eyes [17:58] nixternal: ROFL [18:02] ugh, I don't understand this akonadi build failure [18:03] nixternal: I think there's a good chance that sabdfl can take it :) [18:07] hello, I'm trying to modify a kubuntu live-cd, and want to setup some programs to autostart when kde loads [18:08] I tried adding some scripts on .kde/autostart but they don't start when the kde session loads [18:08] (it's kde 3.5.10) [18:09] .desktop files in /usr/share/autostart/ should work [18:09] so .sh scripts don't work? [18:13] just tried a .desktop file and it works, yey :) [18:13] tried a bash script and it didn't [18:13] thanks :) [18:14] lkraider: the bash script is executable right? I have plenty of bash scripts in .kde/autostart that work fine [18:14] they work on an installed system, but I couldn't make it work on a remastered live cd [18:14] ahh [18:30] Riddell: got a problem. I can't testbuild the fix without a pbuilder, and debootstrap doesnt' know about karmic [18:31] maybe if I change debian/changelog to jaunty temporarily.... [18:33] Riddell: yes [18:41] do we have an upstream contact for xorg-server [18:44] * eagles0513875 getting upset with phonon crashing constantly [18:45] anyone else have problems installing from the iso's provided by bittorrent? [18:45] every single one of them has yet to work for me..the Kubuntu one gets the furthest though before it tanks [18:48] nixternal: the amd64 worked like a charm here [18:49] a|wen: pping [18:49] eagles0513875: pong [18:50] JontheEchidna: dist-upgrade a jaunty chroot until debootstrap with karmic arrives [18:50] a|wen: had someone install the new widget from ppa seems like that first issue i had last night is only unique to 64bit linux [18:51] eagles0513875: okay ... strange; well i have heard of it before, so not a new thing [18:51] ok a|wen just thought i would let you know [18:51] eagles0513875: jup, thx [18:52] wait a|wen take that back seems like person is on a 64bit laptop as well and it didnt happen to him [18:52] im not sure it could be that i have a rather customized kubuntu [18:52] Mamarok: hrmm, that is the one I am using...I get the Red Screen Of Death for "Select and install software" [18:53] eagles0513875: okay ... not impossible; it's hard to know what it is really [18:53] the static ip issue is something that goes way back to knetwork manager if there is anything i can do to help you wiht that let me know [18:53] nixternal: actually, didn't use the torrent, but downloaded it from the Swiss server [18:54] ya, I am downloading from a server now [18:54] hey Riddell, have you checked out the Network Manager from Pardus? It looks really good [18:57] eagles0513875: it has been there for a long time ... does it work for the nm-applet or whatever the ubuntu one is called? [18:57] the widget that is in the ppa === Gon_ is now known as Gon [18:59] where upstream does thsi bug need to be reported https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/33106 [18:59] Ubuntu bug 33106 in grub-installer "reboot after install failed with Error 15: file not found" [Undecided,Incomplete] [19:00] eagles0513875: that one looks like a very old one ... sure that it is still relevant? [19:01]