[00:01] <daskreech> oh wait. Umm wrong command
[00:01] <noobias> k
[00:02] <mefisto__> dpkg-reconfigure daskreech?
[00:02] <daskreech> sudo update-alternatives --config kdm
[00:02] <daskreech> noobias: You can press up to get it back
[00:03] <daskreech> noobias: also if you press tab it will autocomplete your ocmmands for you
[00:03] <daskreech>  so you don't have to type the whole ting
[00:03] <noobias> ahh
[00:03] <noobias> no alternatives for kdm
[00:04] <daskreech> :-/
[00:05] <daskreech> fine sudo apt-get remove gdm since it seems to want to not exist
[00:05] <noobias> ok
[00:05] <dan_l> so...............I have some n000b questions.
[00:06] <dan_l> Well actually maybe not.
[00:06] <noobias> its doing it now
[00:06] <dan_l> I enabled compiz as the windows manager.  I'm accustomed to running 4 desktops and the famed cube.
[00:06] <daskreech> noobias: then try the /etc/init.d/kdm restart option again
[00:06] <noobias> ok
[00:07] <dan_l> My widget shows 4 desktops, compiz only gives me 2, so I assume there's some disconnect there that's beyond me.
[00:07] <dan_l> I'm having a hellova time articulating this problem, so I'm hoping somebody will know what I'm talking about.
[00:07] <Psi-Jack> Curiousity: Does Ubuntu/Kubuntu have any console-based configuration utilities that do basically what the KDE/Gnome-based system configuration tools do? Basically trying to figure out if there's the equivalent of SuSE yast for ubuntu for configuring things even as simple as network IP addresses for the system.
[00:07] <daskreech> dan_l: keep talking
[00:07] <mefisto__> dan_l: you don't need compiz for that. but anyway, how many desktops do you have in systemsettings > desktop ?
[00:08] <noobias> kdm not running (var/run/kdm.pid not found)
[00:08] <dan_l> Check for you right now, stand by.
[00:08] <daskreech> Psi-Jack: like the one cli tool ?
[00:08] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Pretty much, yes.
[00:08] <daskreech> noobias: Ok great press up and change restart to start
[00:08] <dan_l> 4.
[00:08] <noobias> ok
[00:08] <noobias> ok
[00:09] <daskreech> what was the last ok indicating ?
[00:09] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Not even really CLI either, but Console, as-in curses or what-not. yast for suse can run in console, kde, or gtk environments with automagic detection of which UI layer to use.
[00:09] <noobias> hold 1 sec
[00:10] <dan_l> Here's what I"m trying to figure out:  The widget that's in my panel.  Would that reflect desktops available to compiz or for kwin?  Or am I a total n00b who should self murder?
[00:10] <noobias> daskreech: kdmonly root wants to run kmd allready running
[00:10] <noobias> is what it said
[00:12] <daskreech> Psi-Jack: TUI
[00:12] <daskreech> dan_l: kwin
[00:12] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Yeah, TUI stuffs.
[00:12] <daskreech> noobias: KDM already running?
[00:13] <noobias> thats what it said
[00:13] <mefisto__> dan_l: kwin does the cube and other compiz-type effects
[00:13] <dan_l> Ok.  So perhaps I should try to make do with just kwin and ignore compiz?
[00:13] <daskreech> noobias: change start to stop
[00:13] <noobias> done
[00:13] <dan_l> Yeah.  I'm jujst so gnome adjusted.  But I'll give it a shot.
[00:13] <dan_l> Ok one more question and I'll STFU
[00:14] <dan_l> Can anybody reccomend a good keystroke launcher?  Like Launchy, gnomedo, whatever?
[00:14] <mefisto__> dan_l: try alt-F2  is that the kind of thing you mean?
[00:15] <dan_l> wow.
[00:15] <dan_l> Can I change that hotkey?
[00:15] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: So, is there any TUI configuration tools for *buntu?
[00:16] <mefisto__> dan_l: yes
[00:16] <daskreech> Psi-Jack: Not a one to rule then all
[00:16] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Well, blasted. Heh.
[00:16] <mefisto__> dan_l: systemsettings > keyboard & mouse
[00:16] <daskreech> Ubuntu's focus is to kill command line
[00:16] <daskreech> noobias: Start it again
[00:16] <olujicz> I switched to quassel few day ago and I don't know how to remove chanel from buffer list when leaving some chanel :(
[00:17] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Well, a one rule them all, would do almost effectively, that. Which is why I love yast so much. It just plain works as it's intended.
[00:17] <dan_l> sweeeet.
[00:17] <daskreech> Psi-Jack: Yes but Ubuntu doesn't do Command line stuff unless it will kill them not to
[00:17] <dan_l> so far so good.
[00:17] <daskreech> Linux for humans and all that
[00:18] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: You're mixing TUI with CLI again, though.
[00:19] <noobias> same thing
[00:20] <noobias> kdmonly wants to start kdm allready running
[00:20] <noobias> i dont know
[00:20] <daskreech> It says kdmonly ?
[00:20] <mefisto__> dan_l: just curious, what was the key shortcut you changed it to?
[00:20] <daskreech> alt+Spacebar ?
[00:21] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Just curiousity. Have you, personally, ever seen suse's yast in the recent days, from opensuse 11.0 or newer?
[00:21] <daskreech> Yes
[00:21] <daskreech> noobias: try startx
[00:21] <dan_l> alt+space
[00:21] <dan_l> or win+space
[00:21] <daskreech> Gah
[00:21] <dan_l> sorry, baby was yelling at me.
[00:22] <Psi-Jack> Then you know, yast itself, is a full all around configuration tool that can even check for package updates and install them, setup NFS servers and clients, setup authentication to be by local, NIS+, LDAP, etc.. All in one purely simple TUI interface, as well as GUI interface?
[00:22] <daskreech> noobias: try startx
[00:22] <noobias> k
[00:22] <abyss_> guys how can i check my kernel version?
[00:23] <noobias> fatal server error no screen found
[00:23] <daskreech> uname
[00:23] <daskreech> noobias: oooer :)
[00:23] <dan_l> So far I'm kinda digging on this kde thing.  Probably the most important thing I have to figure out though is whether or not I can move a window to another desktop without a mouse.  I hate the mouse.
[00:23] <daskreech> can you install pastebinit ?
[00:23] <daskreech> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:23] <noobias> can i install pastebinit?
[00:23] <abyss_> uname thats it cheers
[00:23] <noobias> yes
[00:23] <noobias> 1 sec
[00:24] <daskreech> dan_l: Alt+F3 _> D -> desktop#
[00:24] <dan_l> Alright, I'm going to disable compiz go back to kwin.
[00:24] <daskreech> dan_l: advantage? You can throw windows all over the place instantly
[00:24] <dan_l> Now I"m not going to become one of you k people.
[00:24] <daskreech> disadvantage is that you don't follow the window
[00:25] <daskreech> dan_l: cube in the next KDE release  :)
[00:25] <noobias> im getting invalid operating pastebinit
[00:25] <daskreech> for sudo apt-get install ?
[00:25] <hagabaka> has anyone tried arora?
[00:25] <daskreech> !info pastebinit
[00:25] <mefisto__> daskreech: next release? I have the cube now
[00:25] <noobias> sry
[00:25] <daskreech> Oh wait yeah I forgot Jackalope is out
[00:25] <noobias> i fixed it
[00:26] <drbobb> hagabaka: yes
[00:26] <noobias> daskreech: its done
[00:26] <daskreech> noobias: ok type pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:26] <mefisto__> hagabaka: thankyou. I'm always forgetting the name of it. and yes I've tried it
[00:26] <daskreech> Give us the URL
[00:26] <noobias> ok
[00:27] <dan_l> Crap.  Where do I select the windows manager again?
[00:27] <noobias> do i type it here?
[00:28] <daskreech> yes
[00:28] <noobias> ok
[00:28] <daskreech> dan_l: Default applications
[00:28] <noobias> pastebinit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[00:28] <daskreech> or just type kwin --replace
[00:28] <daskreech> noobias: ha ha Sorry you type that in the terminal it will give you a URL
[00:28] <noobias> lol
[00:28] <daskreech> you type the URL here
[00:28] <dan_l> Wow I suck.
[00:28] <dan_l> Thanks folks.
[00:28] <noobias> unable to read from
[00:28] <daskreech> dan_l: Yet you rock so much
[00:29] <hagabaka> i can finally use plugins in it now that i have qt 4.5, but arora has the same problem as konqueror, pages like youtube and nicovideo usually require you to reload a few times before the plugin loads :/
[00:29] <daskreech> noobias: BigX for X11
[00:29] <noobias> ok
[00:30] <noobias> pastebin.com/ff405455
[00:31] <drbobb> hagabaka: an even more serious problem is no adblock ;-/
[00:31] <daskreech> noobias: ok lets see if the driver is the culprit. type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:32] <noobias> ok
[00:32] <daskreech> and change Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv"
[00:32] <daskreech> press Ctrl+X to exit
[00:32] <dwidmann> arora is pretty basic for now, but all things considered it's moving fast
[00:32] <daskreech> ^X is Ctrl+X btw
[00:33] <dan_l> Ok.  I set the invert function to meta+n, applied the change.  Hit win+n, nothing happened.
[00:33] <noobias> nvidia to nv @ the bottom of the text?
[00:33] <daskreech> noobias: Right
[00:34] <noobias> save as same file name?
[00:34] <daskreech> noobias: Oh another little trick You can use alt+<- or alt+-> to jump between terminals beside each other
[00:34] <daskreech> noobias: Yes
[00:35] <noobias> ok
[00:35] <noobias> done
[00:35] <smeg0l> hmm i'm confused
[00:35] <daskreech> ok press up to get back the KDM start and try start it
[00:35] <daskreech> smeg0l: Me too
[00:36] <smeg0l> heh
[00:36] <daskreech> what's confusing you  ?
[00:36] <hagabaka> drbobb: that hasn't bothered me much, and arora usually loads pages faster than konqueror and without javascript problems
[00:36] <smeg0l> can't get kdesudo to work or any passwd in gui :-/
[00:36] <noobias> sorry what is the command i need to use again?
[00:37] <daskreech> noobias: press ^R and type restart
[00:37] <daskreech> you should get sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:38] <drbobb> hagabaka: you should really try browsing the web using a good adblocker, it's a whole new experience, and you'll never want to go back ;-)
[00:38] <noobias> is that whati need to run the restart?
[00:39] <noobias> it said it started
[00:39] <daskreech> really?
[00:39] <daskreech> hmm
[00:39] <daskreech> Did you get a login?
[00:39] <noobias> no
[00:39] <mefisto__> maybe switch to ctrl-alt-F7 ?
[00:40] <daskreech> ok press alt+Ctrl+F7 and see what's there
[00:40] <noobias> black screen blinking
[00:40] <raylu> drbobb: but then you lose your ad-blindness
[00:40] <daskreech> hmm
[00:40] <smeg0l> got to have more caffeine
[00:40] <daskreech> ok
[00:41] <drbobb> raylu: maybe, but i'd rather protect my sanity
[00:41] <daskreech> noobias: still have the nvidia .run file ?
[00:41] <raylu> drbobb: then don't get an ad-blocker. when you use another person's machine, you'll go insane because of the ads
[00:41] <mefisto__> ad-blindness? how do you get that?
[00:41] <noobias> i guess i downloaded it to my desktop
[00:41] <raylu> drbobb: though i use an ad-blocker myself. just pointing out that there's a reason not to use one
[00:42] <daskreech> noobias: ls ~/Desktop
[00:42] <noobias> k
[00:42] <raylu> mefisto__: by seeing ads and ignoring them (like most people do)
[00:42] <daskreech> See if it's there
[00:42] <noobias> yes i still have it
[00:42] <daskreech> ok cd ~/Desktop
[00:42] <drbobb> raylu: well you *believe* you're ignoring them
[00:42] <dan_l> hmmmmm.  I don't see a krunner hotkey under keyboard and mouse.
[00:42] <mefisto__> raylu: that doesn't work for me. must be the asperger's
[00:43] <raylu> drbobb: no, i believe that i pay more attention to them on friend's machines than i did before i had adblock
[00:43] <drbobb> unfortunately, on a subliminal level they're still undermining your sanity
[00:43] <divinus> drbobb: you can use something like privoxy with arora to get adblocking
[00:43] <daskreech> chmod u+x *.run
[00:44] <raylu> daskreech: sh [file].run should work too
[00:44] <drbobb> divinus: good point i guess
[00:44] <k4_k4> hi i got a question - i am on ubuntu , and kdeplasma-addons asks me to install :  * OpenGL  <http://mesa3d.sourceforge.net>
[00:44] <k4_k4> what package is this ? if i try to install mesa-dev* it want to remove nvidia-glx-180-dev --- so what to do ?
[00:44] <noobias> where is the desktop folder located?
[00:45] <daskreech> noobias: under ~
[00:45] <dan_l> Aha!  I am not an idiot.  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1043208.html
[00:45] <daskreech> ~ is a shortcut for your Home directory
[00:45] <noobias> i did it and it didnt work
[00:45] <daskreech> raylu: Yeah I figured
[00:45] <drbobb> heck what could the reason be that copying to my usb flash mem has become so slooooow
[00:45] <daskreech> noobias: Capital D ?
[00:45] <noobias> no... ill learn i promise
[00:46] <noobias> ok
[00:46] <noobias> im there
[00:46] <noobias> now do i run the file?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> noobias: ./<file name>
[00:46] <dan_l> Ok folks, I'll leave you alone for now.  I"m sure I'll be back.  Thanks much for your help.  Sorry to be n00btarded.
[00:46] <dan_l> I gotsa take my daughter out for ice cream.
[00:47] <dan_l> Mom will be unhappy, but I'm the dad, that's why.
[00:47] <dan_l> adios folks
[00:47] <daskreech> noobias: sh *.run
[00:48] <noobias> ...
[00:48] <noobias> confused
[00:48] <noobias> says cant open
[00:49] <raylu> noobias: the exact error would be helpful
[00:49] <noobias> the error says it cant open
[00:50] <noobias> and thats it
[00:50] <daskreech> noobias: ok try chmod u+x *.run
[00:50] <drbobb> at best 200kB/s writing to flash must mean something is wrong
[00:51] <raylu> noobias: i meant copy/paste it
[00:51] <drbobb> and much of the time it just stalls
[00:51] <noobias> lol no gui friend
[00:51] <noobias> thats what im trying to  fix
[00:52] <raylu> drbobb: i experienced something similar once
[00:52] <drbobb> raylu: should I expect the stick to fail soon?
[00:52] <daskreech> noobias: did the chmod ?
[00:52] <noobias> it said no such file
[00:52]  * Psi-Jack laughs.
[00:53] <Psi-Jack> You should be running these commands WHERE the actual .run file is...
[00:53] <daskreech> noobias: ls *.run
[00:53] <raylu> drbobb: no
[00:53] <raylu> drbobb: i eventually just burned it to a dvd (it was a vista installation)
[00:54] <drbobb> well my burner is broken :(
[00:54] <seanw__> Does anyone know how to remove the KDE windows effects ( transparent stuff when moving window etc )
[00:54] <daskreech> seanw__: alt+F3 -> window properties -> desktop effects -> turn off
[00:54] <raylu> drbobb: where are you trying to transfer this file to?
[00:55] <daskreech> noobias: ls *.run
[00:55] <noobias> i did
[00:55] <seanw__> daskreech: thanks much
[00:55] <daskreech> you can see the .run file?
[00:56] <drbobb> i want to take it to a place where i have a working dvd writer
[00:57] <Psi-Jack> Ugh. Why oh WHY does KDE's copy dialog use MiB, instead of MB?
[00:58] <noobias> i see the run file
[00:58] <noobias> yes
[00:58] <noobias> but when i chmod it dosent work
[00:59] <nameiner> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 64bit on my hp dv4-1120 laptop and I have a sound problem. It hangs on the startup sound. It sounds like it repeats the first half second all the time. And I can't have any other sounds. Any ideas?
[00:59] <daskreech> what did you type for chmod ?
[01:00] <noobias> chmod u+x <filename.run_
[01:00] <drbobb> i suppose that if it were h/w trouble , i'd be seeing something in `dmesg'
[01:00] <daskreech> noobias: did you ahve < in it?
[01:00] <noobias> no
[01:01] <daskreech> noobias: tab completed the file name ?
[01:02] <lemon> hello,moring
[01:03] <daskreech> noobias: Woah wait it has .run_ ?
[01:04] <daskreech> With the underscore?
[01:04] <noobias> no no underscore that was typo
[01:04] <daskreech> ok
[01:05] <daskreech> try chmod u+x and then tab complete the name
[01:05] <daskreech> hi Mamarok
[01:06] <Mamarok> hi daskreech :)
[01:08] <drbobb> hey this has become ridiculously slow. might there be some problem with the kioslave, or what?
[01:08] <daskreech> Hi lemon_
[01:09] <daskreech> noobias: how's that going?
[01:09] <noobias> iy tsn
[01:09] <noobias> sry
[01:09] <lemon_> Hi daskreech
[01:09] <noobias> it ran but it said fatal server error
[01:09]  * Psi-Jack blinks.
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> chmod != server.
[01:09] <noobias> no screens file
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> Oh.
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> Run it with --help so you can figure out how to use it without X.
[01:10] <noobias> ^no screens found
[01:10] <daskreech> noobias: ok lost now :) you got the .run file torun ?
[01:10] <noobias> brb
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> daskreech: Yeah, running it by itself will try to use X, and since X isn't running, or at least in the shell he's using presently, it will die.
[01:11] <daskreech> Psi-Jack: near as I recall the nvidia driver install files required you to killX
[01:11] <daskreech> Course they could have moved on :)
[01:15] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, Not sure about the nvidia drivers. I've done the ATI ones, but not the nvidia ones yet.
[01:17] <drbobb> hmm rsync seems to write a little faster
[01:18] <drbobb> still writing to flash at 250kB/s is unusually slow, isn't it
[01:20] <drbobb> goodnite
[01:20] <inanimate> So does the new network management plasmoid save your WEP/WPA passwords?
[01:21] <nameiner> inanimate: I think mine doesn't, at least not when I restarted the first time.
[01:22] <inanimate> OK... That blows...
[01:23] <seanw__> wicd ftw
[01:23] <inanimate> Why would something that doesn't even save your wireless passwords be shipped as the default for 9.04?
[01:23] <seanw__> no clue, i also found that very odd that they would release something halfway stable
[01:23] <inanimate> KNM is painful, yes, but function over form...
[01:24] <inanimate> Well it's ironic given that for 8.10 they released the beta version of KNM and NM...
[01:24] <inanimate> Or packaged, rather.
[01:25] <Psi-Jack> Heh, oh hell, NM itself IS beta. Not even a 1.0 release.
[01:25] <inanimate> seanw__: No Qt version of wicd?
[01:25] <seanw__> inanimate: sorry what's that mean? im new :)
[01:26] <seanw__> whats QT
[01:26] <inanimate> The GUI toolkit that KDE uses.
[01:26] <inanimate> As oppose to GTK, which Gnome uses.
[01:26] <seanw__> ah
[01:26] <Psi-Jack> GTK+ actually.
[01:26] <seanw__> well then yes it has a GUI
[01:26] <nameiner> inanimate: a lot of people also complain about static IP addresses not working
[01:26] <inanimate> I was going to say "GTK+", but then I thought "I may be wrong, and who really cares?" Oh how wrong I was =).
[01:27]  * Psi-Jack grins evilly.
[01:27] <inanimate> nameiner: Static IP doesn't work with NM?
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> inanimate: Not really well, no.
[01:27] <inanimate> Hmm... Glad I
[01:28] <inanimate> 've never tried.
[01:28] <nameiner> inanimate: yup, lot of complaining about that in the kubuntu mailing list
[01:28] <Psi-Jack> It /works/, but if you run it with any kind of services needing an IP, it will often times fail them.
[01:28] <inanimate> So far my biggest deal with NM in general is the fact that I only get a DHCP lease half the time.
[01:29] <Psi-Jack> Like I said earlier. NM in itself, is still beta all the way.
[01:29] <inanimate> Well, save manually using wpasupplicant, are there any other reasonable Qt (or even better, KDE) NM frontends?
[01:32] <mefisto__> has anyone installed KDE3 in jaunty alongside the default kde4?
[01:32] <ign0ramus> I've been checking here and on launchpad, but still haven't found an answer... is there a fix for xorg using massive amounts of cpu in Jaunty?
[01:34] <nameiner> I have sound problems on my laptop (hp dv4-1120) with 9.04 64bit installed
[01:34] <nameiner> any ideas
[01:34] <Psi-Jack> nameiner: Depends. What KIND of sound problems?
[01:34] <seanw__> i hear 9.04 is extremly buggy.
[01:35] <nameiner> Psi-Jack: it sounds like it repeats the first half second of the startup sound forever
[01:35] <kuaera> 9.04 has been pretty buggy for me so far.
[01:36] <seanw__> kuaera: that's why im sticking with 8.10
[01:36] <seanw__> :P
[01:36] <kamlurker> Has anyone have any problems with the 9.04 upgrade killing KDE?
[01:36] <kuaera> Lots of KDE4 issues, especially with Samba support magically screwing itself up [If I manually put in the path in Dolphin, it works fine]
[01:36] <Daskreech> mefisto__: No I haven't. Is there a second part to the question?
[01:36] <kuaera> My file picker dialogs still always start by sorting by name descending, ignoring my settings [really frustrating if you do a lot of work with files]
[01:37] <mefisto__> Daskreech: second part would be: how did it go? any problems? does kde4 and kde3 get along?
[01:39] <Psi-Jack> Bleh, how do you break out of a dead ssh session?
[01:40] <fjallagyldir> hej guys
[01:40] <fjallagyldir> got in trouble
[01:40] <mefisto__> Psi-Jack: exit ?
[01:40] <commander_> hey can awn work on kubuntu. i want to make it look like Mac OSX Leopard
[01:40] <Psi-Jack> mefisto__: I said, dead, aka, the host shut down while still logged in.
[01:40] <Daskreech> mefisto__: It has a ~.kde3 dir so I would guess so
[01:40] <fjallagyldir> til distupgrade to jaunty there is no video playback possible anymore
[01:41] <fjallagyldir> any ideas?
[01:41] <kamlurker> is there a way to allow the LiveCD to write to a USB drive?  I'm trying to backup my data before recovering from 9.04
[01:41] <nameiner> Psi-Jack: any ideas about the sound?
[01:41] <Psi-Jack> nameiner: No, but I'll make a guess it's related to PulseAudio
[01:42] <fjallagyldir> kamlurker, mount it
[01:42] <nameiner> Psi-Jack: as far as I know, Pulseaudio is not used in Kubuntu, but I could be wrong
[01:42] <Psi-Jack> nameiner: PulseAudio's been used in *buntu for a while now, wether noticed or not, but in 8.10 and up it's been seriously noticed, at least by me.
[01:43] <Psi-Jack> ps auxwww | grep pulse
[01:44] <fjallagyldir> anyone else in here got problems with update to jaunty 9.04?
[01:45] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh, so it's <enter>, then ~ to get into ssh's command-mode, similarish to telnet's old CTRL+]
[01:45] <jessi> help! i have 9.04 64bit on an hp laptop, but i cant get the wireless to connect. :(
[01:46] <noobias> I have figured it out
[01:46] <noobias> it was a damn bios problem the whole time
[01:46] <noobias> :D
[01:46] <jessi> heres a paste of my iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/m498163ca
[01:46] <nameiner> Psi-Jack: nameiner   7749  0.0  0.0   7524   892 pts/1    R+   20:45   0:00 grep pulse
[01:46] <noobias> but definetly thanks daskreech for the help i really appreciate it
[01:46] <nameiner> what does this tell us?
[01:47] <jessi> my husband says i cant do this myself. can you help prove him wrong?
[01:47] <Psi-Jack> nameiner: That Pulse isn't running, amazing.
[01:47] <nameiner> OK
[01:47] <nameiner> :|
[01:47] <fjallagyldir> jessi, r u sure that there s no mac restriction in the AP?
[01:48] <jessi> no. whats ap?
[01:48] <rosco_y> Can anyone recommend their favorite audio player/music organizer?
[01:49] <fjallagyldir> accesspoint jessi
[01:49] <jessi> fjallagyldir: how could i tell?
[01:49] <rosco_y> I've been using Amarok, but after the 9.04 upgrade, it's not playing my mp3 files :(
[01:49] <jessi> all other wireless laptops work
[01:49] <rosco_y> Am I doing something wrong?
[01:49] <jessi> rosco_y: audacious is good
[01:49] <fjallagyldir> log in into the AP and proove if there is such a restriction (MAC filtering)
[01:50] <rosco_y> jessi -- Thank you, I am going to try it out right now :)
[01:50] <noobias> does ubuntu support multi-moniters?
[01:50] <fjallagyldir> also check if there is an DHCP server running or if static ips r used
[01:51] <fjallagyldir> noobias, yes X does
[01:51] <jessi> fjallagyldir: should i turn on mac cloning?
[01:51] <fjallagyldir> no
[01:51] <kamlurker> fjallagyldir: /dev/sdc1 on /media/disk type ext2 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[01:51] <fjallagyldir> check if mac filtering is on, and if ips r delivered via dhcp
[01:52] <jessi> all dhcp
[01:52] <jessi> mac filter off
[01:52] <ori> ubuntu rocks
[01:52] <fjallagyldir> kamlurker, then u should be able to write to it ...
[01:52] <fjallagyldir> is there a WEP or WPA key jessi_ ?
[01:52] <dado_> i
[01:53] <dado_> hi
[01:53] <ori> ][#';/.,
[01:53] <dado_> i need the help
[01:53] <fjallagyldir> who not in here ... dado_
[01:53] <ori> tell me dado
[01:54] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: no keys
[01:54] <dado_> i have installed ubuntu 9.04 on macbook pro everithing ok but no audio
[01:54] <kamlurker> fjallagyldir: dolphin has the "Create new.." option grayed out as though I don't have permission to create a directory
[01:54] <ori> you can't do nothing to solve it, sorry
[01:55] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: ssid is ournet
[01:55] <fjallagyldir> so maybe thats the reason kamlurker ? check permissions
[01:56] <fjallagyldir> jessi_, u should set ssid and all the other stuff according to ur network
[01:56] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: i have.
[01:57] <fjallagyldir> kamlurker, what does 'touch /media/disk/testfile' say?
[01:57] <fjallagyldir> jessi_, doesnt look like according to ur pastebin, there is nothing set
[01:58] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: is there a place to set it other than "manage connections?"
[01:59] <kamlurker> fjallagyldir: touch: cannot touch `/media/disk/testfile': Permission denied -- It seems that the reason is that the owner and group are "500"
[01:59] <fjallagyldir> no i dont think so, u have hit the connect button, havent u?
[02:00] <fjallagyldir> so do a chown  as root kamlurker
[02:00] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: yes hehe. many times.
[02:01] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: and reset the router, and restarted the computer.
[02:01] <fjallagyldir> hmm restart is no solution on linux ...
[02:01] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: i have an hp dv5, the wireless button is a little light on a panel. everything else on the panel works
[02:02] <tomsdale_> I was just installing some packages to get better fonts for eclipse on kubuntu and next thing I remeber : Iḿ in a Gnome Session !!! What do I do??
[02:02] <fjallagyldir> when u look at the panel on the button with the connections, and u rightclick that one - what do u see?
[02:03] <ori> cm'on guy stop bullshitting
[02:03] <ori> smoke weeds instead
[02:04] <tomsdale_> why does kdm start a gnome session? I dont get it - how could this happen.
[02:04] <jessi_> fjallagyldir: it says manage connections, network management settings, and panel options
[02:04] <keyser_soze> tomsdale_: any *dm can start any window manager
[02:04] <mefisto__> tomsdale_: there's a menu in kdm where you can choose which DE to use
[02:05] <ori> hahaha stupid geeks
[02:05] <Haza1_> Hmm, how can i kill off a process that dows not want to be killed? :)
[02:05] <ubuntu> HELLLLP i cant get any sound form my new install on my laptop
[02:05] <Haza1_> *does
[02:06] <nameiner> ubuntu: I only have a stuttering sound on mine.
[02:06] <Haza1_> ubuntu: Try googling the laptop model + ubuntu + sound
[02:06] <tomsdale_> hm, only problem is I have to access it in Gnome - which it loads as default now
[02:06] <fjallagyldir> does it show up ur network jessi_ ?
[02:07] <jessi_> yeah i can see wireless interface, disconnected, and enable
[02:07] <jessi_> if i unplug the network cable it won't connect to the wireless
[02:07] <ubuntu> ok thank doing it now
[02:07] <jessi_> im like 3 feet from the router
[02:08] <nameiner> ubuntu: what kind of laptop do you have?
[02:08] <Daskreech> noobias: What? What BIOS issue?
[02:09] <fjallagyldir> jessi_, try unplug the LAN and click on the wlan in the context menu
[02:10] <jessi_> tried that, but i'll try again
[02:14] <fungos_> when I try to run a game in fullscreen it wont change the xorg resolution, but will put the game in a rectangle inside the black screen. like, my desktop is 1440x900 but the games that run 1024x768 run in a tiny quad in my 1440x900 res.. how to fix this? before 9.04 it worked.
[02:14] <jessi> fjallagyldir: nothing happens when you click on the context menu
[02:14] <tomsdale_> ok, Im clueless. how can I get kdm to start into my KDE session. Im currently in Gnome against my will !! What is the command for the System Settings Program in KDE?
[02:17] <Daskreech> systemsettings
[02:18] <joshjtl> need some help, I can record from mic in kwave but not in audacity
[02:19] <tomsdale_> Daskreech: Thanks - I got it.
[02:19] <jessi> fjallagyldir: thanks, i guess i'll see if the forum can help. not looking good. i
[02:19] <jessi> i'll have to reinstall windows it seems.
[02:19] <fjallagyldir> np
[02:21] <tomsdale_> I still cant select whether it starts into Gnome or KDE - This is a nightmare.
[02:21] <rmrfslash> kubuntu?
[02:21] <rmrfslash> are you on?
[02:22] <rmrfslash> ubottu?
[02:22] <raylu> tomsdale_: kdm and gdm should both give you that option
[02:22] <rmrfslash> !love
[02:22] <rmrfslash> amazing
[02:23] <raylu> yep :D
[02:23] <ubuntu> Haza1_: thanks i found the reason, i had to disable the external amplifier
[02:23] <tomsdale_> raylu - I deselected of automatic login, maybe that puts it into Gnome
[02:23] <raylu> tomsdale_: i don't think so...
[02:24] <tomsdale_> let me restart kdm and well know - brb
[02:28] <tomsdale> raylu: it worked - I'm back in KDE. I think installing the sudo aptitude install gnome-control-center
[02:28] <tomsdale> uups - sorry. Don't do that if your are on KDE.
[02:29] <tomsdale> anyway - after installing the control center it overrides your preference and if you have automated logon enabled it sends you straight into a gnome session.
[02:29] <raylu> then shouldn't turning off automated logon fix it?
[02:30] <tomsdale> yep - that's what I did. Then it allows you to select your Session type.
[02:32] <tomsdale> And what beauty !!! Eclipse fonts don't look like the writing on a Pizza Box anymore.
[02:33] <raylu> but eclipse is not a beauty =\
[02:33] <raylu> also, pizza is tasty
[02:34] <tomsdale> Well, eclipse is a fatty - but now at least a fatty with nailpolish
[02:34] <dust> hello, where do i extract KDE styles/themes
[02:35] <jimmy51_home> dfdfdfd
[02:35] <jimmy51_home> sorry
[02:35] <dust> is there a gnome-art manager like in gnome ?
[02:37] <jeye617> hp printer driver help anyone? (9.04)
[02:37] <jimmy51_home> doh
[02:37] <jimmy51_home> how do you restart X from the kybd in 9.04?
[02:37] <jimmy51_home> it used to be CTRL ALT BKSP
[02:38] <VisTasTiC> xorg disabled ctrl alt bksp. you have to edit /etc/xorg.conf to enable it
[02:39] <VisTasTiC> google to find out what you have to type in
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> VisTasTiC: is there a replacement combo?
[02:39] <Pici> !dontzap | jimmy51_home
[02:39] <VisTasTiC> not that i know of
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> why did they get rid of that?  it was very useful
[02:39] <raylu> that seems like an excessive way of re-enabling ctrl-alt-bksp
[02:39] <raylu> it was useful but it was also a nice way to lose your work
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> hmmm.....
[02:40] <jimmy51_home> maybe a "are you sure you want to restart X" prompt would be due?
[02:40] <jimmy51_home> i dunno
[02:40] <jimmy51_home> thanks for the tip.... i'm going to try it in 3...2...1...
[02:42] <raylu> that reminded me of gentoo emerge
[02:44] <jimmy51_home> i heard a rumor that the functionality of compiz is available in kwin now.  is that true?
[02:44] <jimmy51_home> i've got compiz tricked out pretty well right now
[02:45] <dust> OMGhow do i install themes (styles/windows) ??!?!?
[02:45] <raylu> !patience
[02:46] <dust> shrug
[02:46] <dust> i've been seeking this for hours with no result
[02:46] <raylu> jimmy51_home: i'm not sure. there is a "desktop effects" setting which you can turn on. you can also use the ccsm or similar to fine-tune compiz.
[02:46] <Dragnslcr> jimmy51_home- not all of the same effects are in kwin, but it does do compositing on its own
[02:47] <jeiworth_> jimmy51_home: afaik kde 4 has its own implementation of desktop effects, i am not sure your existing compiz config will work
[02:52] <Onyx> Does anyone know of a way to put amarok 1 back on instead of amarok 2?  I'm definitely not a fan
[02:54] <raylu> !amarok
[02:54] <raylu> o.0...
[02:54] <raylu> heh
[02:55] <Pici> hmm.. that could use some work
[02:55] <robin0800> dust: Right click on desktop and choose appearence settings
[02:55] <|dthacker|> Dapper. hehe
[02:55] <agoole> dapper was awesome.
[02:56] <agoole> it was almost easyer to live with non working hardware, than knowing it worked for others but yours were broken, haha
[02:56] <sardano> Hi for all!
[02:57] <sardano> Please someone Should say my how can I do to know if my downloaded iso DVD of Kubuntu is OK?
[02:57] <agoole> sardano: when you run it, you can do a check, and verify the burn image
[02:57] <matt_> reboot with it in cd-rom, choose check disk for errors
[02:58] <sardano> Are there something like an pgp file our some king of checksum like sha1 or md5 that can I verify iso file?
[02:59] <agoole> sardano: there is a md5,
[02:59] <agoole> sardano: unless I'm mistaken
[03:00] <sardano> I only found md5 for CDs not for DVD. Where I found DVD md5?
[03:00] <mefisto__> md5 should be available
[03:00] <matt_> not sure  failsafe  might take about 8-15 min but the reboot, check cd for errors works
[03:00] <raylu> you can also check the jigdo files, i believe: http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/9.04/
[03:01] <raylu> but yeah, gpgs are on that page
[03:01] <agoole> whats the name of the ubuntu off topic chanel again ?
[03:02] <agoole> !off-topic
[03:04] <dust> robin0800: i ment styles and windows not themes
[03:07] <robin0800> dust: Settings and appearence then
[03:07] <dust> robin0800: yea but how do i add styles ?
[03:07] <agoole> I thought there was compiz with jaunty, or was I mistaken ?
[03:09] <mefisto__> agoole: there is desktop effects in kde4 which has compiz-like features
[03:09] <hunter_> ...and now I'm bored
[03:09] <agoole> mefisto__: hum...
[03:09] <agoole> mefisto__: havn't seen them
[03:10] <hunter_> Yeah. Real original
[03:10] <agoole> hunter_: i'm bored too, lol
[03:10] <hunter_> That's wonderful, but I don't care
[03:10] <hunter_> damn it
[03:10] <mefisto__> agoole: rightclick a window titlebar, configure window behaviour  to enable desktop effects
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> sardano- took me a bit to find the DVD md5 sums. Let me find the link for you
[03:11] <sardano> Dragnslcr: Thanks
[03:11] <agoole> mefisto__: o0, works well :)
[03:11] <dust> robin0800: do you know?
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> sardano- http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.04/release/MD5SUMS
[03:12] <mot> did they fix the network manager applet in 9.04 final?
[03:12] <mot> it was absolute garbage in 9.04 beta ...
[03:12] <mot> i don't know why every release of kubuntu they switch the network management applet
[03:13] <dust> it cant be so hard to tell how to install new styles in kde4 ?!
[03:14] <robin0800> dust: Its in advanced settings dektop themes
[03:14] <dust> robin0800:
[03:14] <dust> ?
[03:15] <psyco> hey, why do my startup scripts try to run in wine?
[03:15] <psyco> I have a compiz.sh script in /.kde/Autostart
[03:15] <psyco> and its runs  "compiz --replace" but its runs it with wine
[03:16] <robin0800> dust: What you want is system settings The advanced tab and then choose Desktop Theme Details
[03:17] <psyco> nvm forgot to chmod it XD
[03:17] <Bobgart> How many of you are actually alive?
[03:18] <dust> robin0800: oh there.
[03:19] <dust> robin0800: nope it doesnt change styles just themes
[03:20] <robin0800> dust: Well there isn't one then
[03:20] <Bobgart> So, is this channel for anything in particular or does anybody just hang there bots here?
[03:21] <dust> robin0800: system settings -> appearance -> windows -> (styles)
[03:21] <Bobgart> Linux sucks
[03:21] <dust> robin0800: i want these added new styles
[03:21] <Bobgart> good for you asshole
[03:21] <brian_> Hello.
[03:21] <Pici> Bobgart: This is a support channel, stop.
[03:21] <Bobgart> zup
[03:22] <dust> robin0800: plz help
[03:22] <Bobgart> If this is support, then why does everybody stay in here and/or just have bots sitting here
[03:22] <brian_> Good question.
[03:23] <brian_> Speaking of questions, I just so happen to have one.
[03:23] <dnl> would anyone have any idea why my box keeps pulling an IP via dhcp even though i have a static IP setup in /etc/network/interfaces.  it keeps going back to an IP that is not the one I assigned even without restarting the pc.
[03:23] <robin0800> dust: more info needed please
[03:23] <dust> robin0800:
[03:23] <Bobgart> what's your question?
[03:24] <dust> robin0800: Ozone, Oxygen styles i need more of those
[03:24] <dust> robin0800: new ones
[03:24] <brian_> I just had a whole host of troubles with grub. I'm back up and running except anything internet related shuts down instantly.
[03:24] <brian_> Adept, Synaptic, Firefox, Konqur w/e its called.
[03:25] <Bobgart> Did you change anything before that happened?
[03:25] <brian_> Just updated to 9.04
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> !language | Bobgart
[03:25] <brian_> I went through adept last time to find updates.
[03:25] <Bobgart> ah, I had similiar problems. I actually just reinstalled Kubuntu so that I could get around it
[03:25] <dust> !styles
[03:26] <Bobgart> The update killed Knetwork Manager
[03:26] <dust> robin0800: yo man
[03:26] <brian_> So I've noticed. I can use the sudo apt-get update command and it goes through a list of files but an error occurs. I think they might be related. Why? Don't know.
[03:26] <mefisto__> dust: apt-cache search kwin-style
[03:27] <dust> mefisto__: yea?? installed
[03:27] <dust> need new ones sigh
[03:27] <mefisto__> dust: also try apt-cache search kde-style
[03:27] <sardano> Dragnslcr: Thanks you very much. Now Where I found gpg public key file for verify MD5SUM file of Kubuntu iso DVD?
[03:27] <dust> mefisto__: yea all done.
[03:27] <mefisto__> dust: installed what? all of them?
[03:27] <dust> mefisto__: all so lame
[03:27] <Bobgart> In Microsoft Windows updating to a new OS is a big no-no. I'm guessing it's the same for Linux
[03:27] <dust> mefisto__: yea they where 4 or so
[03:27] <Dragnslcr> sardano- very good question
[03:28] <brian_> Yeah, soon as one was released, you wait a few weeks to see if its worth it. I ended up with XPsp2 till 6 months ago.
[03:28] <Dragnslcr> sardano- http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.04/release/
[03:29] <dust> mefisto__: is there really no way to add new styles in kde
[03:29] <brian_> Then Vista for a few and now Kubuntu. So far I like Kubuntu.
[03:29] <Dragnslcr> sardano- I would assume you want the .gpg file there
[03:29] <Bobgart> I like Kubuntu too, but I'd rather go back to Windows
[03:29] <sardano> Lol...
[03:29] <brian_> I do miss some things about it.
[03:29] <Bobgart> I'm running on my laptop and it gets stuck at Competing Installation everytime
[03:29] <mefisto__> dust: is there a style you want that isn't installed? or just wishing there were more available?
[03:29] <brian_> It fades quickly though.
[03:30] <dust> mefisto__: the first choise
[03:30] <brian_> I'm running this on my laptop too.
[03:30] <robin0800> dust here you go  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140271
[03:30] <mefisto__> dust: which one?
[03:30] <Bobgart> And you know, it seems like the entire Ubuntu community is just questions about how to get different shit on here
[03:30] <sardano> Dragnslcr: To verify a signed file I need public key of that which sign this file people or team.
[03:30] <brian_> Bobgart: what do you mean you get stuck?
[03:31] <Dragnslcr> !language | Bobgart
[03:31] <Bobgart> Stays at the screen for up to 3 hours, shuts down, then can't boot. Not even into safe mode
[03:31] <brian_> So far I've found the *ubuntu community to be much more supportive then windows ever had.
[03:31] <brian_> Can you boot from a live CD?
[03:32] <Bobgart> You mean of Linux?
[03:32] <Dragnslcr> sardano- I would assume it's MD5SUMS.gpg. I've never used it personally, so I can't really help you much more than that
[03:32] <brian_> Wait, are you talking about Linux or Windows? I'm confused.
[03:32] <Bobgart> lol, I'm using Kubuntu because I can't install Windows Vista back onto my laptop
[03:33] <sardano> Dragnslcr: OK no problems. Thank very much for your help.
[03:33] <Dragnslcr> sardano- you're welcome
[03:33] <sardano> Anybody knows where I found kubuntu Public Key?
[03:33] <brian_> Ahh right on. Gotcha.
[03:33] <dust> robin0800: mefisto__ could you give url to a style
[03:34] <mot> wtf
[03:35] <robin0800> dust: http://www.kde-look.org/
[03:35] <mot> did any of the latest 8.10 updates do weird things to anybody's system?
[03:35] <mot> i'm no longer in sudoers and my root password no longer works. i didn't touch a damn thing.
[03:36] <mefisto__> dust: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=9
[03:36] <superwad> i've just upgraded to 9.04, and i'm not able to use my mouse.  the cursor is present and moves.  i can interact only with the items in the taskbar.  i can open the K Menu, but not click anything inside it.  I can click on program icons in the taskbar, but not click inside them
[03:36] <superwad> i solved this problem by a restart last time it happened, but it's not helping now
[03:36] <Bobgart> Seems everybody is having problems with the new update
[03:36] <superwad> yea, more than just that
[03:37] <mefisto__> superwad: try killing plasma and restarting it
[03:37] <superwad> but i'm most concerned with that at the moment.  that really hinders my ability to use the computer
[03:37] <dust> mefisto__: robin0800 : so i need to compile it? i get error: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:37] <robin0800> dust also read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140271
[03:37] <superwad> mefisto__: no change
[03:38] <Bobgart> Ok, everybody in here is a bot or a zombie.... so, see ya no where
[03:38] <superwad> i also can't click open icons that are in the tray thing
[03:38] <superwad> :(
[03:38] <Dragnslcr> At least the troll left
[03:39] <brian_> I'm not a zombie or a robot >.>
[03:39] <brian_> At least I think I'm not. Could be...
[03:39] <brian_> BWAHAHA!
[03:39] <dust> robin0800: ok it's jams there in qt
[03:39] <mefisto__> superwad: if you ctrl-alt-del do you get the logout window?
[03:40] <superwad> yes
[03:40] <mefisto__> superwad: logout, restart X, then login again. see if it's any better
[03:41] <superwad> mefisto__: yea, i got it
[03:41] <superwad> but then i couldn't close it to tell you all about it
[03:41] <superwad> the keyboard shortcuts wouldn't even work
[03:42] <superwad> so i restarted X, and now it's working again
[03:43] <superwad> aww, but now some key bindings have died
[03:43] <superwad> like my side click in firefox
[03:43] <superwad> sigh, problems...
[03:45] <dust> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[03:45] <dust> what's this?
[03:45] <denton_> anybody wanna be my linux tutor and let me pick your brain till my hearts content?
[03:45] <brian_> I have a problem if anyone can help.
[03:45] <brian_> :D
[03:45] <denton_> looks like lots of people on here might lol
[03:45] <brian_> lol'
[03:45] <|dthacker|> brian_: ask your question
[03:46] <brian_> Well, firefox, the default web browser, synaptic and adept all shut down soon as they are started.
[03:46] <brian_> Well, synaptic give me an error
[03:47] <brian_> Says E: Problem parsing dependency Replaces
[03:47] <brian_> among other things.
[03:48] <denton_> brian_:you tried rebuilding deps im assuming?
[03:48] <Guest17450> hey, I plugged a firewire camera, how do I know its connect and works etc...I can't connect to it from kdenlive...
[03:48] <brian_> I'd love to get back online so I can read up on how to get my sound working again. And no, haven't tried that. I'm not exactly sure how. :(
[03:48] <|dthacker|> brb: dog wants in
[03:49] <denton_> brian_ : try sudo dpkg-reconfigure firefox
[03:50] <brian_> Tried it. Nothing. It went back to brian@wucus:~$
[03:51] <denton_> did you run fire fox again?
[03:51] <robin0800> Dust read this you need extra packages http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140271
[03:51] <brian_> Firefox started, then gone.
[03:52] <mefisto__> Guest17450: run this: tail -f /var/log/messages   and then plug in the camera and watch the window for updates. if nothing happens, it's not connecting
[03:53] <denton_> brian_: maybe get anotther version of it
[03:53] <brian_> sudo apt-get install firefox?
[03:53] <brian_> err
[03:53] <|dthacker|> brian_: have your tried starting firefox from the command line to see if any errors are generated?
[03:53] <dust> robin0800: yea i installed them already
[03:53] <dust> robin0800: still getting that qt error
[03:53] <denton_> no thats gonna most likely give you the current version
[03:54] <brian_> Nope. How do I start an application from terminal?
[03:54] <brian_> just type the name of the program?
[03:54] <|dthacker|> denton_: are you saying that won't work?
[03:54] <denton_> yeah
[03:54] <mefisto__> brian_: that's usually all you need
[03:54] <brian_> Segmentation fault
[03:55] <denton_> |dthacker| not at all, but its probably not the best approach for a new user
[03:55] <robin0800> Dust you may need development versions of Qt
[03:55] <Guest17450> mefisto__: I  get this: http://pastebin.com/m3330f908
[03:55] <dust> robin0800: what is that qt4-dev ?
[03:56] <brian_> Wonder what a segmentation fault is...
[03:56] <denton_> pretty broad spectrum crash lol
[03:56] <denton_> a*
[03:56] <brian_> oh yippy!
[03:56] <robin0800> dust: Don't know you will have to do a search
[03:56] <|dthacker|> brian_: at this point I'd reboot.   You may have something hogging memory and not releasing it.
[03:57] <brian_> Just rebooted not too long ago. I did just get grub working again about 5 hours or so. That was fun.
[03:57] <denton_> oh yeah..
[03:58] <brian_> Would that be the same problem causing adept, synaptic to crash too?
[03:59] <dust> robin0800: could you check fast?
[03:59] <dust> robin0800: need lib and dev qt4
[03:59] <denton_> brian_: I bet another version of FF should work , im new myself but thats what id try (easier)
[03:59] <|dthacker|> brian_: imo, yes
[04:00] <brian_> Hmm... well in snyaptic I also get this: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_multiverse_binary-amd64_Packages
[04:00] <denton_> i think i am going to configure gnome now..
[04:00] <brian_> dunno if that helps identify what might be incorrect.
[04:01] <dust> robin0800: still getting same error loaded lots of crap
[04:01] <denton_> yay, its a 1.4 gb file :P
[04:02] <denton_> virtual machine only has 8 gbs of memory.
[04:02] <denton_> unpacked thats another 3 gbs, lol.
[04:02] <robin0800> dust: you didn't think this would be easy?
[04:03] <dust> robin0800: i got that qt error a ayear ago
[04:03] <dust> robin0800: dont remember how i fixed that, i need it to compile new styles
[04:03] <|dthacker|> briand_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332671
[04:03] <robin0800> dust did you ever solve it?
[04:03] <dust> robin0800: yep with some hearers and librarys
[04:03] <dust> but can't find the right one yet
[04:04] <dust> now
[04:04] <|dthacker|> oops
[04:04] <|dthacker|> brian_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332671
[04:04] <dust> robin0800: could you check and help me some
[04:04] <robin0800> dust: do a linex google search on the error
[04:05] <robin0800> dust: do a linex google search on the error
[04:05] <noobias> ok so I have got the install to run successfully
[04:05] <noobias> but now i have no sound and i cant activate my second moniter
[04:08] <dust> ok gotit
[04:08] <dust> now it gives: hecking for KDE... configure: error:
[04:08] <dust> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail.
[04:08] <dust> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:11] <dust> robin0800:
[04:13] <EtFb> I used Kubuntu 8.10 briefly but even with KDE 4.2 via an unofficial repository, I still found it flakey and broken.  Will I be similarly disappointed with 9.04, or have the KDE4 people finally got their ducks in a line?
[04:14] <robin0800> EtFb: yes but some have drowned
[04:15] <EtFb> robin0800: That would be the controversial decision to throw away the tested and functional ducks from KDE3 and make new ones out of polished concrete, right?
[04:16] <mefisto__> EtFb: 9.04 has been the best kubuntu yet for me, but others have had problems. I was wary too, so I made a new partition for a new install, but ever since, I haven't looked back.
[04:16] <ubuntu> hello
[04:16] <ubuntu> is anyone familiar with wine
[04:17] <EtFb> mefisto__: How is it handling more recent hardware?  I have weird behaviour with my Toshiba A300's video drivers, suspend/hibernate, the assorted hotkeys, etc.  That's on 8.04.  What do you reckon: will I find 9.04 more frustrating, or less?
[04:17] <EtFb> !ask | ubuntu
[04:17] <mefisto__> EtFb: I really don't know. tried the livecd?
[04:18] <EtFb> mefisto__: I suppose I should, but then the livecd for Hardy didn't handle 1280x800 at all.  I had to install and then fiddle with third-party drivers.  The vesa driver is teh suck, as the young people say.
[04:20] <ubuntu> i d/led and install winehq and then d/led conqueronline but it wont open and install it , am i missing a step?
[04:20] <herman> linux mint would not recognize my cd rom but 9.04 does, it still does not recognize my usb ports
[04:21] <EtFb> herman: What hardware?
[04:21] <robin0800> EtFb: graphic driver on the install is all auto now and xorg conf is blank
[04:21] <mefisto__> EtFb: also, if you want kde3 with jaunty: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[04:22] <vikram> Hi - I just upgraded to 9.04 on my laptop and can no longer connect to a wireless network. i know there is a bug - anyone here know a workaround ?
[04:22] <EtFb> robin0800: Yeah - automatically broken.  Don't talk to me about Acer laptops, either - worst week of my life...
[04:22] <EtFb> mefisto__: Cool.  Could be worth a try if/when I upgrade.  I'm pretty happy with Hardy though.  It really is -- hardy, I mean.  Very.
[04:23] <robin0800> vikram: knetworkmanager
[04:23] <EtFb> (I guess that means I'm letting Hardy rest on his Laurels...)
[04:23] <herman> acer 5100-5022 laptop 64 bit
[04:23] <vikram> hi Robin - knetworkmanager doesnt work either
[04:23] <vikram> it used to though :(
[04:23] <EtFb> vikram: wicd is better than networkmanager.  Quicker, more configurable, not stupid.
[04:23] <mefisto__> EtFb: maybe make some room for a new partition and do a separate install like I did
[04:24] <Daskreech> There should be more articls on 50 best kubuntu wallpapers :-(
[04:24] <EtFb> herman: Oh gods, you're doomed.  Can you get a trade-in and buy a Thinkpad or a Toshiba?  (Think I'm joking?  Hoooo boy... you should see my rants on the topic of the Acer I had.)
[04:24] <robin0800> wicd don't work on jaunty
[04:24] <herman> it does see my sd card
[04:25] <EtFb> robin0800: WTF?  Really?  That's it for me then.  Maybe I'll try Kosmic Koala or whatever it is.
[04:26] <robin0800> EtFb: it does a good job of uninstalling the network manager
[04:27] <EtFb> robin0800: Hell, yeah.  Best feature!  But it doesn't work apart from that?
[04:27] <vikram> when i try wicd i get a message that encryption is required to be enabled
[04:27] <vikram> do i need to install anything else for WPA support ?
[04:27] <Cathal> hello?
[04:27] <EtFb> vikram: Expand the section for that connection and type in the appropriate keys etc.  It's not very intuitive the first time, but you don't need to install anything else.
[04:28] <Cathal> I have a question on formatting..
[04:29] <robin0800> EtFb: it couldnt connect to my mobile dongle but nither can kde
[04:30] <EtFb> robin0800: Interesting - I managed to make it connect happily to a USB wifi dongle.
[04:31] <rafael_> hello i need help
[04:31] <rafael_> i initialized ubuntu
[04:31] <Cathal> I want to install Kubuntu onmy laptop, oerwriting my Vista install, without harming the backup, but I have no idea which format is best under the "use as menu"
[04:31] <Froad_> either ext3 or ext4
[04:32] <Froad_> but if you want stable probably ext3, unless I am misunderstanding you
[04:32] <EtFb> Cathal: Which backup are you talking about?
[04:32] <Xain> I prefer FAT8 myself. o.o
[04:32] <Cathal> the D; partition, for the Vista restore, JIC I should need it.
[04:32] <robin0800> EtFb: I think these broardband dongles are very different a modem port a storage port and a monitorig port and on windows a cd rom image
[04:34] <mefisto__> Xain: was there ever a FAT8?
[04:34] <Cathal> ok, so EXT3 should do the job then? thanks a lot..
[04:34] <Xain> Haha, yeah.
[04:34] <Xain> It was pointless though.
[04:34] <Xain> It was teh format for the old big black floppy disks.
[04:35] <Cathal> Mount to "/BOOT"?
[04:35] <thismamacooks200> fresh jaunty upgrade, cheese doesn't find my webcam, camorama doesn't find /dev/video0 (I have no /dev/vid* anything). lsbusb reports a "Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0545:800c Xirlink, Inc. Veo StingRay"
[04:36] <Xain> Could anyone give me any tip's on how to go about increase system wide sound volume without having to install Pulse?
[04:36] <Xain> Kinda like a pre gain for the sound.
[04:36] <Cathal> heh, that's what im installiing, its been a while since I did Linux though.
[04:37] <denton> my weather widget does not connect to my proxy
[04:37] <denton> someone should tell me how to properly set one up
[04:37] <denton> =) hint hint
[04:38] <Cathal> sorry, just re-learning it myself.
[04:38] <robin0800> denton: Thats a bug
[04:38] <denton> not fixed yet?
[04:38] <denton> :(
[04:38] <denton> robin0800: many people have that problem then huh?
[04:39] <mefisto__> denton: have you tried any other weather widgets?
[04:39] <robin0800> denton: It came up yesterday search the log!
[04:41] <vikram_> how to i get the plasma widget for network manager ?
[04:42] <robin0800> vikram: add widgits
[04:43] <vikram_> i dont see it in the list anymore. i got an error - something like object instantiation error
[04:44] <Xain> I have a question guy's.
[04:44] <Xain> This Konversation client run's off of a complete Freenode server correct?
[04:45] <robin0800> vikram: Something you did uninstalled it you will have to reinstall it
[04:45] <Xain> Does that mean every channel i run into will be a Linux based channel?
[04:45] <mefisto__> vikram: make sure it's installed: plasma-widget-network-manager
[04:46] <robin0800> Xain: irc.freenode.net is the server
[04:46] <Xain> Ok, thank you.
[04:46] <devilsadvocate> Xain: you can connect to other networks.
[04:47] <vikram_> ok thanks .
[04:48] <robin0800> devilsadvocate:  both ubuntu and kubuntu use freenode
[04:49] <devilsadvocate> robin0800: yes... and?
[04:49] <mefisto__> so does windows
[04:50] <robin0800> devilsadvocate: Thats why I quoted that one
[04:51] <robin0800> mefisto__: More important to me is~rockbox do too
[04:51] <noobias> Can someone help me with a problem im having with running multiple moniters in ubuntu
[04:52] <denton_> yo, how would i be able to use the old kde menu bar?
[04:53] <noobias> Can someone help me with a problem im having with running multiple moniters in ubuntu
[04:53] <denton_> or at least configure this one to use the same featurse?
[04:53] <noobias> i can find the moniter
[04:53] <denton_> such as highlight and resize selected programs with mouse hover
[04:53] <mefisto__> denton: menu bar? you mean the menu? kmenu?
[04:53] <noobias> but when i try to save the conf file it says it cannot delete the orig file
[04:54] <digdeep> denton: select application launch menu(traditional menu) from widget system (right click on the top right of the screen)
[04:54] <denton_> digdeep: thanks, ill try to take that all in
[04:54] <mefisto__> denton: I think if you right-click the kickoff menu there is an option to use the traditional menu
[04:55] <denton_> really? I'll check
[04:56] <gizmobay> I just upgraded to 9.04 and in firefox there's shadows around search boxes and buttons. Is this the way it is?
[04:56] <robin0800> denton: As long as lock isn't on
[04:57] <noobiasrex> i have it allsetup to work and when i go to save the xorg.conf i get an error saying unable to remove old x config backup file
[04:57] <Dragnslcr> gizmobay- I think it's because of gtk-qt-engine, which tries to make GTK programs look more like they fit in with KDE
[04:58] <robin0800> noobiasrex: Are you root?
[04:59] <denton_> 'panel settings' are kind of helpful
[04:59] <gizmobay> Dragnslcr, can I upgrade a package to fix?
[04:59] <noobiasrex> no im not root
[05:00] <noobiasrex> robin0800 not sure how to login with root
[05:00] <noobiasrex> does it have a password?
[05:00] <noobiasrex> im very noob
[05:00] <noobiasrex> with ubuntu that is
[05:00] <denton_> panel options>panel settings>more options
[05:00] <denton_> noobiasrex: dont log in with root :P
[05:01] <noobiasrex> im not root
[05:01] <noobiasrex> and it wont let me savet he file still
[05:01] <denton_> noobiasrex: if you want to use higher privileges, 'sudo'
[05:01] <mefisto__> noobiasrex: how are you editing it?
[05:01] <noobiasrex> im changing a setting in my nvidia x server settings
[05:01] <denton_> type sudo before the command
[05:01] <noobiasrex> theres no command
[05:01] <robin0800> noobiasrex: I use konquer super user thing That is available but not enabled by default
[05:01] <denton_> oh...
[05:02] <noobiasrex> im pushing saveto x configuration file
[05:02] <noobiasrex> and its saying no
[05:02] <noobiasrex> i cant turn on and visual effects either
[05:02] <noobiasrex> i get some silly error.
[05:02] <lekremyelsew> hey yall
[05:02] <noobiasrex> also after updating to 9.04 my sound dosent work anymore
[05:02] <noobiasrex> im stumped
[05:02] <mefisto__> what's the command to start the nvidia config thingie? just put "kdesudo" before that
[05:03] <lekremyelsew> does anyone know how to get the old amarok back in 9.04?
[05:03] <noobiasrex> i have no idea what the command line is
[05:03] <denton_> all hardware problems require specific values to be configured in a range of files... it takes time :(
[05:03] <mefisto__> noobiasrex: it's in the menu?
[05:03] <noobiasrex> im used to an os listenening to me when i tell it to save something
[05:03] <robin0800> noobiasrex: Alt F2
[05:04] <noobiasrex> i mean i clicked system_administration_nvidia x server settings
[05:04] <noobiasrex> it finds my moniter
[05:04] <noobiasrex> i clicked on seperate x screen
[05:04] <noobiasrex> and it says i must save the file
[05:04] <denton_> I wonder where the shared directory for VMware is , and how to open it in linux
[05:05] <noobiasrex> when i try to save the fil
[05:05] <noobiasrex> file it tells me it cant delete the old backup
[05:05] <lekremyelsew> anyone?
[05:05] <mefisto__> noobiasrex: you need root privileges to edit that file
[05:06] <noobiasrex> and if i cant log in to root how do i do it?
[05:06] <noobiasrex> i pressed alt f2
[05:06] <robin0800> noobiasrex: You add sudo or kdesudo to the command
[05:06] <noobiasrex> what command?
[05:07] <noobiasrex> thers no command all im doing is clicking save file
[05:07] <mefisto__> noobiasrex: open the menu editor (kmenuedit) and find it in there to find out what the command is
[05:07] <denton_> noobiasrex: ill help you out
[05:08] <denton_> noobiasrex: hmm.
[05:08] <noobiasrex> i found the command
[05:08] <denton_> noobiasrex: youll need to go to recovery and give your user root editing capablities
[05:08] <robin0800> noobiasrex: You need to relaunch your program with root priviledges so it can save and dellete files
[05:09] <denton_> yeah that
[05:09] <mefisto__> noobiasrex: it's probably something like nvidia-config (I don't know because I've never used nvidia in linux)
[05:09] <denton_> so let me get this straight
[05:09] <Daskreech> Hi noobiasrex
[05:10] <denton_> theres no way to drag a window into another desktop on 1 monitor..
[05:10] <noobiasrex> hi daskreech
[05:10] <Daskreech> !twinview
[05:10] <robin0800> noobiasrex: Just put kdesudo in front of it
[05:10] <Daskreech> !dualhead
[05:10] <mefisto__> noobiasrex: so do this: kdesudo <whatever the nvidia command is>
[05:10] <Daskreech> !xinerama
[05:10] <denton_> hmmm? was that twin view in response to my question
[05:10] <denton_> Deskreech: thank you
[05:11] <denton_> Ill be sure to get that
[05:11] <denton_> and im going to make a text file for helpfull programs, and commands i hear on here
[05:11] <xeff> hello all
[05:12] <xeff> Wonder if anyone could help out...
[05:12] <denton_> now i need to set up hotkeys to add text files and such
[05:12] <denton_> :P
[05:13] <denton_> xeff: ask and you never know
[05:13] <denton_> :)
[05:13] <noobiasrex> ok so from what ive gathered the command should look like this right
[05:13] <robin0800> !ask > xeff
[05:13] <noobiasrex> kdesudo /usr/bin/nvidia-settings
[05:14] <robin0800> noobiasrex: Yes
[05:14] <noobiasrex> i cant thank you guys enough
[05:14] <noobiasrex> i gotta restart x
[05:14] <noobiasrex> brb
[05:15] <noobiasrex> next issue is not having any sound
[05:15] <xeff> I am on jaunty jackalope and the network manager widget doesnt seem to work properly
[05:15] <robin0800> xeff: Correct#
[05:15] <xeff> Any idea why?
[05:16] <xeff> bugs?
[05:16] <medjr> how can i set the windows key to show the start menu ?
[05:16] <medjr> windows key also called super key
[05:16] <medjr> :/
[05:17] <robin0800> noobiasrex: Yes the one you set up during install
[05:18] <Xain> Can someone tell me what is teh best distro i could ever use with a good compatibility with Intel chipset's?
[05:18] <nsaw> hi
[05:19] <noobias> ok well that worked
[05:19] <medjr> any answers please ?
[05:19] <noobias> is there a way to give my useraccount those controls without having to do all the cmdline stuff?
[05:19] <nsaw> does anyone know if it is possible to install knoppix to a 8gb usb stick in kubuntu?
[05:20] <robin0800> medjr: System seyttings Keyboard andmouse
[05:21] <robin0800> noobias:  what controls?
[05:22] <mefisto__> noobias: you could edit that item in the menu editor to run as a different user, and enter the user "root". that should pop up a window asking for your password whenever you run it. (that's what it normally should do anyway if it's changing system settings)
[05:22] <medjr> robin0800 i went there but i could not find where to configure it
[05:23] <denton_> so is there a way to get a bunch of virtual desktop like Mac Os? :O
[05:25] <mefisto__> denton_: should already have them
[05:27] <kris> Hi. Trying to get my sound cards to work following an upgrade to Jaunty. Here they are: Card 0 : HDA ATI SB at 0xd2500000 irq 16, and Card 1 : HDA ATI HDMI at 0xd2410000 irq 19.
[05:28] <Daskreech> denton_: They took that from UNIX so hopefully yes :)
[05:28] <Daskreech> !sound
[05:29] <kris> Daskreech: Thanks.
[05:29] <kris> Didn't realize that 4.2 was still using ARTS ...
[05:30] <Daskreech> It can
[05:31] <girevikmoto> linux stopped recognizing my usb hard drive
[05:31] <kris> Daskreech: Ok. The 4.2 interface is entirely different...
[05:32] <kris> I think ubottu needs his brain updated ...
[05:33] <kris> Daskreech: I thought that 4.2 used phonon ...
[05:33] <kris> Also, searching packages.ubuntu.com for "arts" doesn't return any relevant hits ...
[05:35] <denton_> so does i386 mean windows 32 bit
[05:37] <kris> No. i386 is a processor.
[05:37] <girevikmoto> i386 means means the processor architecture is a descendent of intel 386
[05:37] <kris> It can run Windows 32 bit. Or any other 32 bit OS.
[05:37] <girevikmoto> as opposed to PPC (power pc) and x86_64
[05:38] <thismamacooks200> girevikmoto: don't forget m68k. Linux was made for m68k
[05:41] <girevikmoto> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Microprocessors <- there have been many processor architectures over the years
[05:46] <eddyb> hi
[05:47] <girevikmoto> so... i dont suppose anyone knows a fix to my usb harddrive problem?
[05:47] <eddyb> is there any way(i mean some factory repos and stuff) to get you kde4 updated with the last svn version?
[05:47] <girevikmoto> a few days ago my external harddrive stopped being detected
[05:47] <girevikmoto> i plug it in, and it never shows up
[05:47] <girevikmoto> lsusb shows its existence though
[05:49] <girevikmoto> dmesg shows a bunch of i/o errors
[05:49] <girevikmoto> but it works fine on a friends windows machine
[05:50] <girevikmoto> any ideas?
[05:51] <Daskreech> kris: Correct and Phonon can use whatever so it can use it if you like
[05:56] <denton_> heres a question youve heard a thousand times
[05:56] <denton_> by now someone should have this on speed dial :P
[05:57] <denton_> how do get root privs on a standard account to install software
[05:57] <Daskreech> *beeppebeepboopboop*
[05:57] <denton_> :P
[05:57] <Daskreech> put sudo before the command you are using to install
[05:58] <denton_> okay i thought so
[05:58] <denton_> so its just the command that doesnt get recognized
[05:58] <denton_> weird.. i gotta get it working in VMware on windows to install shared directories
[05:58] <kris> Daskreech: Ok. But how do I install arts?
[05:59] <kris> !arts
[05:59] <eddyb> !kde4
[06:00] <eddyb> !kde4.2
[06:00] <denton_> Daskreech: actually i need to do this install in X heh
[06:00] <Daskreech> denton_: kdesudo
[06:00] <denton_> hm .. thank you
[06:02] <aaron> Hi, I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 and my network manager is gone... I lost all of my wep keys and had to plug into a wall to get network
[06:02] <aaron> It's not even there
[06:03] <aaron> any suggestions on how to get wifi working again?  (that grey globe thing worked well in 8.10)
[06:04] <denton_> Daskreech: can I add that kdesudo to a RPM file?
[06:04] <Daskreech> denton_: WOah what?
[06:04] <denton_> Daskreech: need to install rpm file (in root) i believe
[06:05] <denton_> need to do it by double clicking preferably
[06:05] <Daskreech> denton_: Which RPM ?
[06:05] <denton_> actually its a tool set for VMware
[06:05] <denton_> so this is where it gets confusing for me..
[06:05] <aaron> denton_: did you want to install an rpm??? there are plenty of tools to convert rpm to deb
[06:05] <Daskreech> Where did you grab it from?
[06:06] <aaron> Plz help, my system is crypled...
[06:06] <denton_> it came with VMware (windowsXP) they designed a toolset for linux
[06:07] <denton_> its also in tar.gz form but does not recognize the command
[06:07] <Daskreech> MrDarkUser: Crippled?
[06:07] <Daskreech> denton_: Which command?
[06:08] <MrDarkUser> Daskreech: yes, I figured that misspelling would catch somebodies attention.. also it appears that my new IRC client doesn't have spell checking to my dismay
[06:08] <MrDarkUser> Daskreech: yes, the wifi is down
[06:09] <MrDarkUser> Daskreech: it appears to just be the dissapearance of the network manager that was in 8.10.. that was ugly and missnamed but worked reliably.. and now there is nothing to replace it.
[06:10] <Daskreech> MrDarkUser: Did you try the plasmoid?
[06:11] <Idespnnr> MrDarkUser: what about Wicd as a network manager
[06:11] <Idespnnr> worked better for me in 9.04 than the default
[06:11] <Daskreech> If the plasmoid doesn't work try wicd
[06:11] <MrDarkUser> I got my wep key so If I can figure out where to use the configuration file, I should be able to use it... but it's gone....
[06:11] <MrDarkUser> Daskreech: that plasmoid just showed what was connected, nothing to change,  Trying Wicd
[06:12] <Idespnnr> i could NOT hidden SSID with the built in wifi manager in kubuntu 9.04, I used wicd and never had much issue
[06:13] <MrDarkUser> Note, there are a whole bunch of really really cool settings under the System Settings network section.. but nothing to actually connect to a network :)
[06:15] <MrDarkUser> Idespnnr: well, wicd looks promissing, except it's redarded and telling me that encryption needs to be enabled... witch is a big DUH, just ask me for the key already
[06:15] <MrDarkUser> and I crashed it just by clicking the button a few times
[06:16] <Idespnnr> ouch... dunno what your alernatives are then
[06:16] <Idespnnr> unless you like bash...
[06:16] <cspack> you just have to expand the ssid name and click advanced settings before  you try and connect
[06:17] <Idespnnr> ah yea... it would be a 1 time setup thing for the initial connect
[06:17] <Idespnnr> then wicd should do the rest automaticaly from then on
[06:19] <digdeep> hi, where can i find libgailutil.so.18
[06:19] <Daskreech> !find libgailutil.so.18
[06:19] <Daskreech> There you go
[06:21] <aaron> Idespnnr: thanks much,
[06:22] <Idespnnr> aaron: you had trouble with the builtin plasmoid wifi manager i take it?
[06:22] <denton_> Excellent.
[06:23] <digdeep> Daskreech: great
[06:23] <aaron> Idespnnr: There was none when the computer turned on
[06:23] <denton_> awesome.. vmware tools installed successfully
[06:23] <aaron> Idespnnr: there was last time I saw it in 8.10
[06:24] <aaron> Idespnnr: and I had seen it in the search menu in 8.10, but it wasn't there in 9.04 right after the upgrade...
[06:25] <aaron> Idespnnr: When I typed other stuff in, I got a program that showed what was connected, but no way to manage it, when I went to system settings, there were ways to define connections, and a hidden way to search for networks, and no way to say "connect"
[06:26] <aaron> Idespnnr: (the plasmoid was the one that only said what was conencted)
[06:26] <Idespnnr> were you really connected?
[06:26] <aaron> Idespnnr: no, not with wifi
[06:27] <aaron> Idespnnr: I had to find  a network jack to plug in .. I spent 1/2 hour poking about looking for anything
[06:28] <denton_> there we go.. man that did something
[06:28] <aaron> Idespnnr: Also under system settings, I was able to type in connections, but then it kept asking me for my kdewallet, which was needless, it wouldn't let me do anything without kdewallet, so I had to poke about with wallet manager, delete one, then go back, and it appears that the network manager program
[06:29] <denton_> i was not able to add fade or slide windows effects until now :P
[06:29] <denton_> the transparent k bar is nice too
[06:29] <aaron> Idespnnr: anyway, I'm not trying to rant, I'll research more now that I'm online, it's just that anybody who depends on wifi can't jump from 8.10 to 9.04 at this time
[06:30] <denton_> im goin to log out and make sure changes are saved
[06:30] <denton_> this took me a few hours to achieve, lol
[06:30] <Idespnnr> aaron: if you move to wicd you should be ok
[06:31] <Idespnnr> remove and uninstall the plasmoid and replace with wicd via add/remove programs
[06:43] <raylu> aaron: i did and wifi works fine
[06:45] <aaron> raylu: I'm sure it works for most or it wouldn't have been released. could I get a screen shot of what the network manager looks like working ?  (There was just a funky M and it said my ethernet was connected)
[06:45] <aaron> (JUST said the ethernet was connected)
[06:45] <raylu> aaron: i'm actually not on wireless right now. want the screeny anyway?
[06:46] <ubuntistas> how can i completely remove kubuntu?
[06:46] <raylu> http://foor.res.cmu.edu/f/snapshot5.png
[06:46] <raylu> ubuntistas: are you dual-booting right now?
[06:47] <johansja> i can easily install LAMP server on my Ubuntu using tasksel. But how do I prevent it from autostarting or shutting it down?
[06:48] <raylu> johansja: you want to prevent the lamp stack from starting up when booting?
[06:49] <johansja> raylu, ya, i don't need the localhost server to run all the time
[06:49] <johansja> i am using this pc for development purpose only
[06:49] <raylu> johansja: sudo update-rc.d -n apache2 remove
[06:49] <aaron> raylu: yes please ;)
[06:50] <raylu> johansja: will perform a dry-run of removing apache2 from the rc.d
[06:50] <raylu> aaron: gave the link. http://foor.res.cmu.edu/f/snapshot5.png
[06:50] <johansja> raylu, and how do i start it manually after that?
[06:50] <raylu> johansja: switch -n with -f to actually remove all the symlinks
[06:50] <raylu> johansja: and do the same for mysqld
[06:51] <raylu> johansja: to start/stop it manually, sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 start/stop/status/restart
[06:51] <Victorash> hello
[06:51] <raylu> johansja: same for mysqld
[06:51] <aaron> raylu: thx
[06:52] <Victorash> hello i've a question. what do you use for burn images in ubuntu "?
[06:52] <aaron> raylu: I did not have that big white thing with the check.
[06:52] <johansja> raylu, thanks
[06:52] <johansja> that's helpful
[06:53] <raylu> aaron: yeah, that icon is kinda strange... but the popup dialog looks nice :D
[06:54] <raylu> johansja: also to note: invoke-rc.d basically just runs thngs in /etc/init.d
[06:54] <raylu> Victorash: k3b
[06:54] <Victorash> Any ideas?
[06:54] <Victorash> aa
[06:54] <Victorash> i'm on gnome
[06:54] <Victorash> it's ok ??
[06:54] <Victorash> i'm new on ubuntu
[06:55] <raylu> Victorash: oh. from the cli, try cdrecord, wodim, or dvdrecord
[06:56] <cspack> gnome has brasero i think by default
[06:58] <Victorash> cspack : U are right
[06:58] <Victorash> it's brasero installed
[06:59] <raylu> !ro
[07:00] <raylu> oh, you're already there. nevermind
[07:01] <shahram> hello
[07:01] <shahram> i have question
[07:01] <shahram> who knows why nvidia Driver 180.44 don;t work peroperly on Kubuntu 9.04
[07:01] <shahram> ?
[07:01] <Victorash> guys from romania are sleping :))
[07:02] <raylu> !work
[07:03] <shahram> i have just installed kubuntu 9.04
[07:03] <shahram> and install the Nvidia 180.44 driver
[07:04] <bazhang> shahram, installed how
[07:04] <cspack> shahram: did you install it via package manager or download from nvidia  website?
[07:04] <shahram> downalod from Nvidia site
[07:04] <cspack> probabaly need to recompile kernel module for the new kernel
[07:05] <shahram> ok i think i have to install the newer vertion
[07:05] <bazhang> shahram, always use the package manager first
[07:06] <shahram> ok Thankyou
[07:06] <cspack> i'm using 180.51, it works fine
[07:06] <shahram> yaa i have to downalod it now
[07:07] <Victorash> how can i see if my video drivers are updated?
[07:07] <shahram> Thankyou all
[07:08] <cspack> Victorash: if you use the package manager, it would show up in updates
[07:09] <MrDarkUser> raylu: .. I reinstalled network-manager-kde, and tried running NetworkManager and well, it didn't do anything worthwhile
[07:09] <MrDarkUser> nothing even close... what is the application name and package?
[07:09] <raylu> MrDarkUser: er, sorry, i don't remember helping you
[07:10] <raylu> i think you were talking to Daskreech
[07:10] <Victorash> ah so it does it automatic
[07:11] <bazhang> Victorash, yes, so always wise to use the package manager :)
[07:11] <MrDarkUser> raylu: .. oh, Aaron
[07:12] <Victorash> i don't understand, u said it updates automatic
[07:12] <Victorash> or should i search the driver in package manager
[07:13] <bazhang> Victorash, yes, if you choose to check for updates/upgrades; you can set it to notify you on a regular basis if you wish
[07:13] <Victorash> it's my second day on ubuntu
[07:13] <Victorash> so\
[07:14] <bazhang> Victorash, or simply type into the konsole: sudo apt-get update   followed by sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:14] <Victorash> is quite hard
[07:15] <Victorash> it seems that i don't need any updates
[07:16] <Victorash> i need a small, easy to use music player.now i have songbird, but i need something just for play music
[07:16] <MrDarkUser> raylu:  I'm the guy who is very surprised not to have his wifi work after upgrading from 8.10 to 9.04.. but it works with wicd
[07:17] <raylu> MrDarkUser: oh. can you get it working with iwconfig and dhclient?
[07:18] <raylu> Victorash: you're on ubuntu, right? mplayer, moc, or exaile
[07:18] <raylu> Victorash: or amarok if you feel like pulling in qt/kde stuff
[07:18] <Victorash> amarok it's BIG
[07:18] <AaNnAa> :@:@:@
[07:18] <Victorash> a lot of stuff
[07:18] <Victorash> radios and a lot of buttons
[07:19] <Victorash> i need somethig wint playlist and play / pause button
[07:19] <MrDarkUser> raylu: yes
[07:20] <raylu> Victorash: mplayer -playlist file.m3u
[07:20] <raylu> MrDarkUser: you haven't played with your /etc/network/interfaces, have you?
[07:21] <Victorash> Mplayer isn't a movie player?
[07:22] <MrDarkUser> raylu: it works with another network manager... It worked with 8.10.. auto lo
[07:22] <MrDarkUser> iface lo inet loopback
[07:22] <raylu> Victorash: it is
[07:22] <raylu> Victorash: but obviously, movie players implement audio decoding too
[07:22] <raylu> Victorash: and you wanted the bare minimum, so here it is.
[07:22] <Victorash> but it's not what i need
[07:22] <Victorash> really
[07:22] <raylu> Victorash: yes it is. it has a playlist and a play/pause button
[07:22] <Victorash> ?
[07:23] <Victorash> ok
[07:23] <Victorash> i thought it's more complex
[07:23] <MrDarkUser> Victorash: mpc123
[07:23] <MrDarkUser> or mpg123
[07:24] <raylu> Victorash: well... yes. it has a lot of really complex features... it can play videos in your console :D
[07:24] <Victorash> :))
[07:24] <raylu> it's actually really cool looking
[07:24] <Victorash> i'm installing it now
[07:25] <Victorash> to see if you are right
[07:25] <janvi> I have a problem with CPU usage in kubuntu jaunty 64bit, running the beta flash driver, what do I have to try next? My CPU is around 100% in youtube videos:(
[07:25] <Victorash> and if you are not, i'll send MAGIC on you, evil magic :))
[07:27] <Daskreech> raylu: It does?
[07:27] <raylu> Daskreech: ?
[07:27] <Daskreech> play movies in the console
[07:27] <raylu> yep.
[07:28] <Daskreech> how?
[07:28] <Daskreech> without aalib ?
[07:28] <raylu> Daskreech: -vo caca
[07:28] <raylu> or, for no colors, -vo aa
[07:29] <raylu> so i guess it's aalib... maybe...
[07:29] <Victorash> it's quite nice mplayer
[07:29] <Daskreech> yeah it is
[07:29] <Daskreech> aalib needs an update
[07:30] <raylu> lol... aalib isn't that seriously of a project, is it?
[07:30] <Daskreech> Well it can be nicer
[07:31] <Daskreech> the aa stuff in windows is better and I know they don't give a damn
[07:31] <raylu> *serious;
[07:31] <raylu> oh
[07:31] <christina> how can i get adobe flash player? haved tried but it cant be install corret!!! please help....
[07:31] <Victorash> how can i pass log in part ?
[07:32] <Victorash> *get over login
[07:32] <Victorash> i forgot tnx for help raylu
[07:34] <Victorash> Brb
[07:35] <Daskreech> raylu: and my computer is too slow to transcode to aa :)
[07:36] <cspack> !flash
[07:36] <Daskreech> played a music video and the music is done the video is about 1/3 way through
[07:38] <raylu> Daskreech: you can use mencoder to encode it beforehand
[07:38] <Daskreech> ah
[07:43] <noobias> Would anyone know as to why when i try to turn the advanced visiual effects i get an error?
[07:44] <noobias> it says desktop effects could not be enabled
[07:44] <raylu> noobias: xdpyinfo
[07:44] <raylu> xdpyinfo | grep -i composit
[07:45] <noobias> that just confuses me
[07:47] <victorash> what IM client do you use ?>
[07:48] <cspack> desktop effects require the restricted graphics drivers for your card
[07:49] <raylu> noobias: do you see composite for the second command?
[07:49] <raylu> victorash: bitlbee
[07:49] <raylu> cspack: sometimes, not always
 is support Yahoo protocols ?
[07:51] <raylu> victorash: you'll probably want to use kopete instead. but yes, both bitlbee and kopete support yim
[07:51] <cspack> !effects
[07:52] <victorash> i just saw a screenshot of bitlbee
[07:52] <victorash> :))
[07:52] <raylu> bitlbee is just an irc->im proxy
[07:52] <raylu> i'm not sure how you could get a ss of that
[07:52] <victorash> aaa
[07:52] <victorash> package manager
[07:52] <victorash> is an option
[07:52] <victorash> see ss
[07:54] <victorash> raylu : i installed bitlbee
[07:54] <victorash> where i can find it ?
[07:55] <mike-solidus> hey, i have a wierd issue with kde4 with compositing turned on and i wonder if its an issue in general with nvidia and qt4 and compositing or if theres a fix or if i have a special case. When i'm compositing through opengl with qt4 I get wierd rectangle glitch outline boxes where the windows dissapear and only the background is shown. Is this a known issue?
[07:56] <raylu> victorash: like i said, it's an im-irc proxy
[07:56] <raylu> victorash: so you need an irc client
[07:56] <mike-solidus> I'm not sure what to even search for to find it, i keep getting black rectangle bugs when i use google which is not the but i'm getting
[07:56] <raylu> victorash: which is why i also said you'd probably want kopete instead
[07:56] <victorash> i'd use kopete
[07:56] <victorash> i don't like it
[07:57] <victorash> so it's not what i'm looking for
[07:57] <raylu> what are you looking for, then?
[07:57] <victorash> i need something like kopete, and pidgin
[07:58] <victorash> kopete is ..i don't know. i don't like it , some other option ?
[07:58] <mike-solidus> victorash: whats wrong with pidgin?
[07:58] <raylu> mike-solidus: it crashes and is slow :P
[07:58] <victorash> sometimes
[07:58] <victorash> corect
[07:58] <victorash> it crashes
[07:58] <raylu> mike-solidus: it's also not as configurable.
[07:58] <victorash> raylu always has the aswer
[07:59] <victorash> :))
[07:59] <mike-solidus> raylu: i got scared away from kopete because it deleted my buddy list last time i tried it
[07:59] <raylu> mike-solidus: o.0
[07:59] <raylu> mike-solidus: i have a 200+ contact list across 4 networks and kopete was the easiest to manage it with
[08:00] <mike-solidus> i had a 140-ish contact list till i used kopete, now i have the 13 i remember
[08:02] <victorash> other ideas ?
[08:11] <victorash> raylu : Audacious it's a lovely music player:X
[08:12] <victorash> this is what i was looking for
[08:19] <sean1> hi
[08:20] <victorash> hell o
[08:20] <sean1> do you know how to get a list of channels?
[08:21] <sean1> hallo besitzer
[08:21] <victorash> don't know, search on google for what channler you need ?
[08:21] <sean1> something where everyone isnt dead
[08:22] <victorash> #ubuntu
[08:22] <victorash> i can see that they have an hard disscution
[08:24] <raylu> on freenode, you can /list but i highly recommend against it
[08:24] <raylu> if you want a list of ubuntu-related channels, it's on the wiki somewhere
[08:24] <sean1> ok
[08:25] <sean1> thanks finally answer that works
[08:41] <miles_> anyone have experience making multimedia keyboard keys work with Songbird?
[08:46] <administrador> hi !!
[08:58] <raylu> miles_: m... songbird has no support for that in its core
[08:58] <raylu> look to addons
[08:58] <miles_> yeah i got the addon raylu, but still no go
[08:59] <raylu> you may need to close songbird and unmap them in kde/gnome
[08:59] <miles_> they worked in gnome but seems a little more tricky in KDE
[09:01] <miles_> i had a good fiddle in system settings -> keyboard and Mouse -> Global Keyboard Shortcuts
[09:01] <miles_> and Imput Actions
[09:03] <miles_> Imput Actions actually seemed promising but had no fine control ... so i could assign the play key to start Songbird
[09:04] <miles_> and even after installing the command line addon in songbird it didnt work with "songbird -play"
[09:04] <raylu> sorry, i haven't used songbird much since i couldn't get mocp working with it
[09:04] <miles_> plus it was always telling me that my changes wouldnt be saved (permission issue?)
[09:06] <noobias> i have a question concerning my videocard drivers
[09:06] <raylu> miles_: perhaps. do you know where the configs are stored?
[09:07] <raylu> miles_: wait, what is "it?"
[09:07] <miles_> not specifically
[09:07]  * miles_ is a child of the GUI
[09:07] <raylu> miles_: what told you changes wouldn't be saved? kde or songbird?
[09:07] <miles_> the Imput Actions window
[09:07] <miles_> kde
[09:08] <raylu> oh... that's strange
[09:08] <noobias> i have my videocard installed, but i cant run 3d screensavers or any visiual effects. any one have any ideas?
[09:08] <miles_> i kdesudo'd systemsetting and no change
[09:08] <Tm_T> noobias: what card, what drivers you have enabled and how
[09:08] <noobias> nvidia 9800gt
[09:08] <noobias> and hold 1 sec
[09:09] <noobias> driver version 180.44
[09:10] <noobias> and i installed it threw terminal
[09:10] <noobias> and restarted
[09:10] <raylu> miles_: find -uid 0
[09:10] <Tm_T> noobias: can you be more precise?
[09:11] <miles_> i would if i knew what that was
[09:11] <noobias> what else do you need to know?
[09:11] <noobias> im running 64-bit ubuntu ultimate edition 2.1
[09:11] <Tm_T> noobias: hmmmm, then use "ultimate edition" support, as I cannot know what those fellows have done
[09:12] <noobias> hmm
[09:12] <noobias> ok
[09:12] <raylu> miles_: er, there's a command "find"
[09:12] <raylu> miles_: in the terminal, run "find -uid 0"
[09:12] <miles_> oh you mean type find -uid 0
[09:13] <Tm_T> noobias: problem with those unofficial "hacks" is that we cannot support them as they can contain anything
[09:13] <miles_> it waited a bit and then returned a new miles@milo:~$
[09:21] <dreimark> hi
[09:22] <dreimark> I see 100% CPU usage of clipper
[09:22] <dreimark> how can I manage it to get less power
[09:22] <dreimark> sorry i meant klipper
[09:23] <raylu> dreimark: that sounds like a bug
[09:23] <raylu> as a workaround, you can renice it
[09:23] <raylu> miles_: ok, that means that nothing in your directory is owned by root
[09:25] <miles_> ah i see
[09:28] <dreimark> raylu: do I have to file a bug report or is it enough to mention it here
[09:29] <raylu> dreimark: none of us here (i believe) are developers. it'd be nice if you had a bug report
[09:29] <sponzor> hi
[09:29] <sponzor> how to change ip in wirelles configuration?
[09:29] <sponzor> from dhcp to manual?
[09:30] <raylu> sponzor: right-click on network manager > manage connections
[09:30] <sponzor> when i add ip gateway etc.. do i nead to reconnect?
[09:30] <raylu> sponzor: of course
[09:30] <sponzor> :P tnx
[09:31] <miles_> now my cursor looks like a comb/ladder missing a side
[09:32] <dreimark> does this channel have a bot for telling common answers?
[09:32] <miles_> and changing the mouse cursor theme does nothing
[09:32] <dreimark> e.g. give me a link for reporting a bug
[09:35] <miles_> actually looks like the cursor has been cloned 10-15 times really close together
[09:36] <miles_> looks like reboot time
[09:37] <miles_> ctrl alt backspace doesnt work
[09:37] <miles_> cool
[09:38] <raylu> !bug
[09:39] <raylu> dreimark: ^
[09:40] <miles_> hooray normal cursors
[09:46] <raylu> miles_: ctrl+alt+backspace has been taken out but can be re-enabled
[09:47] <miles_> ah
[09:47] <raylu> !dontzap
[09:47] <raylu> i'm sure there has to be an easier way, though
[09:52] <miles_> ok here's an easy one to make up for the unsolvables: how do yuo globally turn off grouping of windows in the taskbar
[09:53] <sponzor> ok i changed wifi. from dhcp to manual and insert ip gateway etc.. but now it wont connect to that wirelles? whats wrong?
[09:55] <linux-hdtv> did you have a connection earlier ?
[09:57] <dreimark> raylu: thx
[09:57] <sponzor> yes
[09:57] <linux-hdtv> why did you change then ?
[09:58] <sponzor> becose dhcp is when you want to go to the internet... with manual i nead to access server that is on other ip and it is not on the internet.. wifi and server are connected to the same switch..
[10:01] <linux-hdtv> ah. i thought you had run into kubuntu wireless problems. i never understood networking
[10:02] <sponzor> i think it is a problam of kubuntu wirelles program becose when i change ip in windows it works i can connect normal, here i cant. i think i m doing someting wrong but i really dont know what :P
[10:03] <linux-hdtv> we all like the beauty of plasma too much ...
[10:04] <floown> hello
[10:05] <floown> how to desactivate the [Alt] + click on windows in Kubuntu ?
[10:08] <linux-hdtv> floown, it makes windows transparent ?
[10:08] <floown> linux-hdtv: no it's for move it with the mouse
[10:09] <linux-hdtv> ah, great
[10:26] <darksmoke> why is there no skype in kubuntu?
[10:26] <darksmoke> i cant find it in the package manageer :/
[10:26] <Tm_T> !skype | darksmoke
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:27] <domker> Hi
[10:27]  * Tm_T hides
[10:29] <domker> How to mount automaticaly NTFS partition? In this release of Kubuntu (9.04) i can't mount my partiton uses for exemple:  /dev/sda5  /media/DANE ntfs user,auto 0 0
[10:29] <domker> (in fstab file)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs-3g | domker
[10:38] <LutiusVeratiusIX> !leadtek
[10:38] <ikonia> domker: what happens when you try to mount
[10:38] <LutiusVeratiusIX> !tvcard
[10:38] <domker> ikonia: no premission to mount partition
[10:39] <ikonia> domker: so you put it in /etc/fstab and do what ?
[10:39] <domker> yes
[10:39] <ikonia> domker: and you do what after that
[10:41] <LutiusVeratiusIX> Does anyone has Leadtek TV card here? I want to know how to install drivers for it....
[10:41] <LutiusVeratiusIX> and start it
[10:41] <domker> ikonia: perhaps PolicyKit tool block premission to mount :P
[10:41] <ikonia> domker: what do you do after you've put your entries in /etc/fstab
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> LutiusVeratiusIX: its the chip on the card thats important, lscpi and lsusb will identify it for you
[10:42] <LutiusVeratiusIX> ActionParsnip : It's Conexant chip on it...where can I see installed hardware?
[10:42] <domker> ikonia: nothing, i just put this entires to fstab
[10:42] <ikonia> domker: then reboot ?
[10:42] <domker> ikonia: yes, reboot
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> LutiusVeratiusIX: like i said.... lspci and lsusb will identify it
[10:43] <LutiusVeratiusIX> ActionParsnip : And what program for TV are you suugesting?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> LutiusVeratiusIX: there are many
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> LutiusVeratiusIX: tvtime, mythtv
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> !find tv
[10:44] <ikonia> domker: wo where does it say "no permssions" ?
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> domker: did you create the mount point?
[10:44] <domker> ActionParsinp: opssss :D
[10:45] <hieha> hello
[10:45] <domker> ActionPersnip: It is my fault :D
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> oh god no
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> is the mountpoint (or lack of the issue)
[10:48] <alarm> ActionParsnip, goodmorning
[10:48] <domker> Why my DSL connection doesn't start with system startUP ? // i uses pppoeconf tool to configure my internet connection
[10:48] <alarm> fixed it, dont ask me how
[10:48] <alarm> i downloaded the latest driver, installed also linux-source and worked like a charm
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> alarm: how?  ;)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> alarm: did you use repo or nvidia.com?
[10:48] <alarm> nvidia.com
[10:49] <alarm> i dont think it was a problem on the nvidia drivers, but on missing linux-source
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> alarm: makes sense
[10:49] <alarm> now i am facing another problem :P
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> alarm: glad its all good
[10:50] <alarm> after upgrade knetworkmanager doesnt start automaticaly and have to start it always from console
[10:50] <kayess> Getting all sorts of weird font corruption on occasion with kubuntu/jaunty -- nvidia drivers
[10:51] <kayess> Are there any known issues? I saw there was meant to be some corrections for font corruption in the new drivers
[10:51] <alarm> i didnt face such an issue at all
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> alarm: i'd reinstall it, or create a symlink to it in ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:51] <kayess> I was having the screen corruption problems with GTK apps before I upgraded -- that's gone now though
[10:51] <alarm> ok, i'll do so
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> alarm: I dont use network manager. Icant do anything with it at all.
[10:52] <alarm> thats how i connect on my wifi , how else ?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> alarm: i use /etc/network/interfaces file
[10:52] <alarm> :)
[10:52] <alarm> i am not that 'advanced' user :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> alarm: lets me uninstall all the dumb tools ubuntu comes with by default
[10:55] <alarm> huh ? knetworkmanager is not installed
[10:55] <alarm> than how did i start the application ? :P
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> alarm: you mave find its kdenetworkmanager
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> alarm: try tab completing in konsole
[10:56] <alarm> nah , i just did run it, knetworkmanager
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> ok
[10:57] <alarm> alarm@rockpc:~$ knetworkmanager , kbuildsycoca running...
[10:57] <alarm> anyway i installed it
[10:58] <linux-hdtv> Good morning ActionParsnip :-) Was there ever a Kubuntu developer here ?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: there may be. i'm not sure
[11:02] <linux-hdtv> Is Canonical now paying for Kubuntu developers too ?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> linux-hdtv: its offtopic here
[11:07] <edud> hi folks, i was trying kubuntu 9.04 live
[11:08] <edud> but can't use internet 'cause network manager don't wark with static ip
[11:08] <edud> and also configuring manually interfaces file
[11:08] <edud> seems that dns won't work
[11:09] <edud> i can ping router, but can't ping out of lan
[11:09] <edud> I've also create the resolv.conf file
[11:10] <edud> but nothing happens
[11:10] <fjallagyldir_> hej there
[11:10] <fjallagyldir_> got troubles since i dist-upgraded
[11:11] <fjallagyldir_> no more videoplayback is possible
[11:11] <fjallagyldir_> can anyone help me?
[11:11] <SandGorgon> fjallagyldir_: try installing vlc
[11:12] <fjallagyldir_> no matter which player - it crashes
[11:12] <fjallagyldir_> also vlc
[11:18] <edud> no one can help me?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> !codecvs
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> !codecs
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> edud: i can give you some public dns ips if you wish?
[11:20] <edud> the dns I use is working
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ok
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> edud: if you cn ping router thats good
[11:20] <edud> seems that kubuntu don't use the dns inserted in resolv.conf
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> edud: can you ping 38.99.130.180
[11:21] <sheytan> First time here, so hi all :D
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> !hi | sheytan
[11:21] <sheytan> want to say, that the new kubuntu rocks!
[11:21] <edud> ActionParsnip: don't know
[11:21] <sheytan> installed it today first time :D
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> edud: try
[11:21] <sheytan> everything's perfect :D
[11:21] <edud> I've to reboot to try
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> edud: and then ping www.bmezine.com
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> edud: if the IP pings but the name doesn't then your DNS sucks
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> edud: then try ping your dns
[11:22] <fjallagyldir_> ActionParsnip, its defenitly not an codec issue
[11:22] <edud> now i'm using that dns
[11:22] <edud> from debian
[11:22] <edud> and it works great
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir_: run a player from konsole, when it crashes you will get ome output, pastebin the output
[11:23] <edud> it's not a dns trouble
[11:23] <edud> it is kubuntu that don't recognize it
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> edud: well try those tets, see what you get
[11:24] <edud> tell me just one thing
[11:24] <fjallagyldir> ActionParsnip, BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[11:24] <edud> network config, and dns config works like debian right?
[11:25] <edud> in interfaces i set ip... etc
[11:25] <edud> in resolv.conf i set dns
[11:25] <edud> or not?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> edud: in /etc/network/interfaces  yes
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> edud: dns is setup in /etc/resolv.conf
[11:26] <smeg0l> Hi
[11:26] <fjallagyldir> ActionParsnip, and Xorg.log: (EE) intel(0): Failed to pin xv buffer
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: have a look at what that means
[11:27] <fjallagyldir> ActionParsnip, that means, afaik that the new intel driver has a problem
[11:27] <Marquis-Vincent> #ubuntu-de
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: have yuo tried renaming the config files in .kde for the player to see if that helpls
[11:27] <edud> ok, it's like debian, but when I restart /etc/init.d/networking kubuntu don't use information in resolv.conf, also after I created it and inserted dns
[11:28] <fjallagyldir> ActionParsnip, its no matter of the player its with every player
[11:28] <valentina> ciao
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: then the common thing between is X and codecs
[11:28] <edud> ciao valentina
[11:29] <fjallagyldir> is also no codec issu caus yesterday it worked before the update ActionParsnip
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: ok what upgraded today?
[11:31] <fjallagyldir> from 8.10 to 9.04 dist-upgrade as suggested from update-deamon
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: thats a massive step
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: i'd reinstall kubuntu-restricted-extras  just to cover that ase
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> as well as the medibuntu codecs
[11:32] <fjallagyldir> i can try
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> fjallagyldir: its free to try
[11:34] <fjallagyldir> on the run ..
[11:35] <fjallagyldir> but i dont think so cause every player itself crushes sometimes even at startup of the player
[11:35] <fjallagyldir> with similar error
[11:39] <domker> Why my DSL connection doesnt start automaticaly with system startup ? // i configured it uses pppoeconf
[11:42] <domker> any tips?
[11:50] <fjallagyldir> domker, have look at the runlevels
[11:52] <domker> fjallagyldir: where ?
[11:52] <fjallagyldir> the runlevel which u start up to
[11:53] <fjallagyldir> have a look at man update-rc.d
[12:00] <domker> fjallagyldir: I don't know how... // if i manuly start networking: /etc/init.d/networking start - internet works but if system bootup connection is down
[12:01] <digdeep> Is it possible to put /etc/init.d/networking start in .bashrc
[12:03] <tsimpson> digdeep: it's possible, but it would fail and be unnecessary
[12:03] <tsimpson> it's started at boot and needs to be run as root
[12:06] <domker> I tried to do symlinks and does not work.
[12:07] <domker> in kubuntu 8.10 works fine
[12:08] <tsimpson> symlinks to where?
[12:08] <domker> to .kde/Autostart
[12:09] <tsimpson> why?
[12:09] <tsimpson> to start what app?
[12:09] <domker> no, to start internet connection on startup
[12:10] <tsimpson> that won't work, things in .kde/Autostart run at login, no boot
[12:11] <tsimpson> if you want commands to be run at boot, you need to put them in /etc/init.d/rc.local
[12:11] <fjallagyldir> domker, which runlevel r u running at?
[12:12] <domker> fjallagyldir: i dont know how to check this
[12:12] <nanoligh1> hello
[12:13] <nanoligh1> I've got a problem with knetworkmanager on jaunty
[12:13] <nanoligh1> It doesn't want to connect and say eth0:disconnected
[12:14] <nanoligh1> eth0: disconnected
[12:15] <nanoligh1> I reached to connect with ifconfig but I think that when i'll reboot, the configuration will be lost
[12:15] <nanoligh1> does anybody got problem with knetworkmanager on KDE4.2?
[12:18] <fabian_> hi everyone - I can't change my icontheme since i updated to kde4, dolphin shows folders always as oxygen and other icons are shown totally wrong (go-back as kde-logo)... what's the matter ?
[12:21] <fjallagyldir> domker, open up a terminal and run 'runlevel'
[12:22] <nanoligh1> anybody knows about knetworkmanager problems with wired connections?
[12:23] <fjallagyldir> hmm never heard about nanoligh1
[12:23] <domker> fjallagyldir: result:  N 2
[12:23] <fjallagyldir> so u r in runlevel 2
[12:24] <fabian_> nanoligh1: is there "no carrier" shown, when you plug it in ?
[12:24] <hwolff> hello, can someone tell me why I get no sound except for skype with works just as it should?
[12:25] <fjallagyldir> domker, login as root
[12:26] <nanoligh1> fabian_: hum it's in french but when I'm on the icon it says eth0: not connected
[12:26] <fjallagyldir> what was your networkscript called?
[12:26] <fjallagyldir> domker,
[12:27] <domker> fjallagyldir: networking
[12:27] <mmo|> Anyone know how to get 5.1 sound in kubuntu 9.04?
[12:28] <fjallagyldir> then do as root 'update-rc.de networking defaults' domker
[12:28] <fabian_> nanoligh1: i experienced that problem.. it seems there are too different packages, which both refer to the command knetworkmanager... is there a "new connection"-button in the menu ?
[12:28] <fjallagyldir> mine is working with spdif-pass thru mmo|
[12:28] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: how do I set that up?
[12:29] <fjallagyldir> does ur soundcard have spdif and is connected ur stereo at that plug? mmo|
[12:30] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: my speakers are connected to the digital out on the sound card...
[12:30] <domker> fjallagyldir : this command result: 'System startup links for /etc/init.d/networking already exist.'
[12:30] <nanoligh1> fabian_: yes there is, I entered the parameters of my connection but it always says not connected
[12:31] <fjallagyldir> hmm then it should start it domker, any syslog entries about that?
[12:31] <fjallagyldir> i assume domker it runs over eth0
[12:31] <fjallagyldir> which soundcard mmo|
[12:31] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: sb audigy 2
[12:32] <fabian_> nanoligh1: try to ignore the "manuel ip config"
[12:32] <fjallagyldir> does any sound gets out? mmo|
[12:32] <domker> fjallagyldir: yes it runs over eth0 with pppoe auth (pass & username)
[12:33] <nanoligh1> I put DHCP? even if I got a router?
[12:33] <fjallagyldir> what does 'ls -lah /etc/init.d/networking' say?
[12:33] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: yes. There is sound. I actually have some success using an .asoundrc file I have that has worked in the past. It makes VLC play in 5.1. Amarok and dragon plays in stereo (and VERY low volume) though...
[12:34] <fabian_> nanoligh1: as far as i know the rooter will give you an internal ip
[12:34] <domker> fjallagydir: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2,4K 2009-03-05 16:02 /etc/init.d/networking
[12:34] <fjallagyldir> so i would have a look at the sound-prefs at kmixer mmo|
[12:35] <fjallagyldir> mine has an output 'IEC 958 Output' switch which is for the digi out - look for smth similar mmo|
[12:36] <fjallagyldir> you have to activate that output and deactivate the according loop - at least at my sndcrd its like that mmo|
[12:36] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: ok, thanks. I will have a look
[12:37] <nanoligh1> fabian_: it doesn't work with DHCP... would it be better with wicd?
[12:38] <domker> fjallagyldir: i reboot my computer. I'll be back soon
[12:39] <uguard> could you help me plz?I m trying to install the 3D model of earth widget and a message says that OpenGL shaders are not supported.
[12:39] <fabian_> nanoligh1: wicd ?
[12:40] <fjallagyldir> have also issus with grafik since dist-upgrade *grrr*
[12:40] <fabian_> nanligh1: wait... didn't you say "wired connection" ? oO
[12:40] <fjallagyldir> no videoplayback anymore
[12:41] <nanoligh1> fabian_: yes wicd can replace networkmanager but I don't know if it works on KDE
[12:42] <fabian_> nanoligh1: hm, i never experienced problems with dhcp and router.. can your paste your network-config-file ?
[12:43] <nanoligh1> yes, where can I find it?
[12:43] <fabian_> nanoligh1: btw: make sure, that the old connection with manual-ip-config isn't in the connection list anymore
[12:43] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: thanks. I think I got it working now. :-)
[12:43] <fjallagyldir> nanoligh1, already tried cmd-line?
[12:43] <fjallagyldir> np mmo|
[12:44] <uguard> could you help me plz?I m trying to install the 3D model of earth widget and a message says that OpenGL shaders are not supported.
[12:44] <nanoligh1> yes no problem with command line if I know what file to read/write
[12:45] <fabian_> nanoligh1: file is /etc/network/interfaces
[12:45] <fjallagyldir> try dhcpclient eth0 eg nanoligh1
[12:46] <fjallagyldir> sry dhclient eth0 nanoligh1
[12:46] <atila> Hi. Good morning, guys.
[12:46] <nanoligh1> fabian_: paste.ubuntu.com:80/159960
[12:46] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: by the way. Do you know how to get keyboard shortcuts working in kubuntu 9.04, or know why mine dont work? :-) I have tried setting them in khotkeys in the settings but nothing happens when I press the shortcut
[12:46] <nanoligh1> http://﻿paste.ubuntu.com:80/159960
[12:48] <fjallagyldir> hm mmo| no sry no idea, stuck in troubles myself with 9.04 i dont have any video playback *grr*
[12:48] <fjallagyldir> re domker
[12:48] <mmo|> fjallagyldir: hm ok. annoying...
[12:48] <domker> fjallagyldir: now all workd find :D
[12:48] <domker> *fine
[12:49] <fjallagyldir> so it looks like u r done :-)
[12:49] <atila> The software update on notification area no longer exists; I probably did something wrong. Can anybody tell me what program should I re-install?
[12:49] <domker> i move networking from /etc/rd.0  to /etc/rd.2/
[12:49] <fabian_> nanoligh1: damn, knetworkmanager doesnt seem to save in this file anymore oO... same text at my file
[12:50] <uguard> could you help me plz?I m trying to install the 3D model of earth widget and a message says that OpenGL shaders are not supported.
[12:50] <fabian_> nanoligh1: take a look at "edit connections" - how many wired-connections are shown ?
[12:51] <bo0ts__> Hi there. Are there any convenient ways to get the old network manager back?
[12:51] <nanoligh1> fabian_: I succeeded to have internet by typing "sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.52 && sudo route add default netmask 0.0.0.0 gw 10.0.0.138
[12:51] <nanoligh1> but in knetworkmanager it says disconnected
[12:51] <triune> nice new gui
[12:51] <triune> for updates :)
[12:51] <johansja_> the kpackagekit doesn't seem to be a good package manager
[12:52] <nanoligh1> fabian_: there is only one, that one that I entered parameters
[12:52] <JuJuBee> What is going on with dolphin all of a sudden it is using 90+ % CPU
[12:52] <johansja_> i wished to install phpmyadmin, and libgd2-noxpm has to be removed, but then i have to do it separately
[12:52] <johansja_> the apt-get can even do a better job
[12:52] <fabian_> nanoligh1: hm, your interface-file changed, didn't it ?
[12:53] <nanoligh1> fabian_: No I don't think
[12:53] <fabian_> nanoligh1: strange..
[12:54] <fabian_> nanoligh1: but it works ?
[12:55] <nanoligh1> it works with command line but I think that when I'll reboot, it won't work
[12:56] <nanoligh1> well, I've tried and I had to write again the command line
[12:56] <atila> Hey, guys! The software update on notification area no longer exists; I probably did something wrong. Can anybody tell me what program should I re-install? Thanks in advance.
[12:56] <fabian_> nanoligh1: as i said: try to kick the one with parameters from the list and make a wired-connection with dhcp
[12:56] <nanoligh1> I tried it
[12:57] <Kransac> Hi everybody
[12:57] <JuJuBee> Anybody? Dolphin using 90+% CPU for about 10 minutes, then seems to settle down.
[12:58] <nanoligh1> fabian_: "the connection to the interface eth0 failed"
[12:58] <Kransac> Is there a way to enable 3D effects under Kubuntu 9.04 with a dual-screen? I have the nvidia driver for my 8600GM
[12:58] <fabian_> nanoligh1: ok.. use the terminal.. i really don't know, what the reason could be else :(
[12:59] <nanoligh1> ok thanks for your help, I'll post a thread on the forums
[12:59] <nanoligh1> I'm a little lost in KDE so... :P
[12:59] <nanoligh1> thanks, bye!
[13:00] <fabian_> anyone experienced problems with changing the icontheme ?
[13:02] <fabian_> when i change to crystal my go-back-icon changes to the kdemenu-icon... the folders dont change at all
[13:04] <triune> nice!
[13:04] <triune> KVM enabled by default
[13:04] <triune> so VMware wont install :(
[13:04] <fjallagyldir> not here fabian_ but i cant play videos anymore since distupgrade
[13:04] <triune> go jaunty
[13:05] <triune> anyone know what the opposite of modprobe is
[13:05] <triune> to unload a kernel module?
[13:05] <fabian_> fyallagyldir: yep - vlc is freakin out since dist-upgr
[13:05] <fjallagyldir> triune, rmmod
[13:06] <fjallagyldir> not only vlc - every player *grrr* fabian_
[13:06] <triune> # rmmod kvm
[13:06] <triune> ERROR: Module kvm is in use by kvm_amd
[13:06] <triune> how do i get around that one?
[13:07] <adeus> rmmod kvm kvm_amd
[13:07] <fjallagyldir> triune, Manpages are your friends
[13:07] <fjallagyldir> see man modprobe
[13:08] <triune> # rmmod kvm kvm_amd
[13:08] <triune> ERROR: Module kvm is in use by kvm_amd
[13:08] <triune> # rmmod kvm_amd kvm
[13:08] <triune> ERROR: Module kvm_amd does not exist in /proc/modules
[13:08] <fabian_> so oxygen has a weird path for icons... folders are not saved in filesystem but in locations :(
[13:08] <fjallagyldir> lsmod |grep kvm
[13:09] <triune> returns nothing fjallagyldir
[13:09] <fjallagyldir> so there is no module loaded called kvm
[13:09] <triune> when i install VMware is finds it and wont install
[13:10] <triune> error msg from install: You cannot install on a system with KVM enabled.
[13:10] <fjallagyldir> as root: updatedb && locate kvm
[13:10] <fjallagyldir> apt-cache search kvm
[13:11] <triune> sweet
[13:11] <triune> apt-get remove --purge kvm
[13:12] <triune> fixed it
[13:12] <triune> guess jaunty wants to install kvm package by default now ;)
[13:13] <triune> thanks for the help fjallagyldir
[13:21] <fjallagyldir> triune, np :-)
[13:23] <JAMES> hello
[13:32] <rmrfslash> Working fglrx for kubuntu 9.04 yet?
[13:33] <LinuxApe> Since my jaunty upgrade, printing no longer works.  Constantly get "printer not connected" errors.  Anyone had similar experience?
[13:33] <ziroday> Hi, how do I get my gtk apps to use oxygen?
[13:34] <rmrfslash> LinuxApe: well... there was a slew of cups "upgrades" today
[13:34] <ziroday> is it something to do with qtcurve? How do I use it?
[13:34] <rmrfslash> zieroday: in 9.04?
[13:34] <LinuxApe> rmrfslash:  haven't seen them yet.  I'll check it out.
[13:35] <ziroday> rmrfslash: 8.04, is it any different?
[13:37] <LinuxApe> rmrfslash:  getting cups updates.   There are a slew of them!
[13:38] <rmrfslash> ziroday: yes.. big diff. In fact, in 9.04 there's no way to change gtk styles, it's hard coded.
[13:39] <rmrfslash> ziroday: I found that qtcurve gave the best overall look and feel to gtk apps. Anything else did funky stuff w/ scroll bars and checkboxes (spec. in firefox)
[13:40] <rmrfslash> ziroday: that's even with that scroll bar fix button in 8.04->8.10
[13:40] <ziroday> rmrfslash: okay thanks!
[13:40] <rmrfslash> ziroday: in 9.04 the gtk looks very good. very well integrated. I haven't seen any bugs really.
[13:41] <rmrfslash> ziroday: I'm for once wholly impressed w/ the transparency they've achieved between Qt and GTK in 9.04
[13:42] <desafinado> hello folks, i use Firestarter for my security, and now it's detecting hit, does it safe? and if it doesn't maybe folks here can write what should i do to secure my ubuntu machine.
[13:43] <LinuxApe> Upgraded CUPS today, and still can't print in Jaunty.
[13:44] <rmrfslash> desafinado: Firestarter is a great "start". I think you would be doing yourself a big favor by becoming more familiar with iptables (firestarter being a frontend to iptables). A *GREAT* place to start is here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[13:44] <rmrfslash> desafinado: I'm sure that's not what you wanted to hear, but you will thank me later.
[13:52] <snikker> how can i execute a script at logout with kde4?
[13:52] <rmrfslash> So does anyone here know if fglrx is working w/ kubuntu 9.04 or what?
[13:53] <rmrfslash> Is everyone still in bed?
[13:53] <rmrfslash> it's 9AM EST for cryin' out loud.
[13:53] <estantes> mmm... testing on 904
[13:53] <estantes> no commend at the moment..
[13:53] <domker> rmrfslash fglrx work for me
[13:53] <estantes> after i install the kubuntu component. it change to kubuntu logon after the reboot
[13:53] <LinuxApe> Also - amarok no longer produces any sound.  Other sound apps work, but nothing from amarok
[13:54] <rmrfslash> well... i just installed fglrx... I'm going to give this thing a try
[13:55] <rahim123> hi there, my bash autocompletion of "apt-get install" packages is broken since i installed jaunty, any ideas?
[14:00] <snikker> no one?
[14:00] <Idhan> I have configurate all the packages I need on one of my computer, is there any way to automatically install the same packages in the other computer based on the first one?
[14:01] <nameiner> I would be interested in that solution too
[14:02] <victorash> a good WYSIWYG editor for ubuntu
[14:02] <victorash> ?
[14:03] <Dragnslcr> Idhan- there is, now let's see if I can remember how
[14:04] <fritzIsOnline> hi all, even i searched for the soultion on forums couldn' face any... why do i get "access denied" message when insterted a cd?
[14:05] <fritzIsOnline> i can use k3b to burn on it but it's not able to see the content, what should i check?
[14:05] <Dragnslcr> !cloning | Idhan
[14:05] <Dragnslcr> There we go
[14:06] <nameiner> ubotto: Thanks. I appreciate it.
[14:09] <rmrfslash> Wow... fglrx couldn't be more of a train wreck.
[14:10] <rmrfslash> It not only left me with a brick (until I uninstalled it) but it conflicts w/ radeon and radeonhd (until you uninstall it)
[14:11] <rmrfslash> Amazing.
[14:11] <rmrfslash> Unless I misconfigured my xorg.conf
[14:11] <rmrfslash> but I just put Driver "fglrx"
[14:12] <rmrfslash> Anyone else here using fglrx, can you paste ur xorg.conf 4 me
[14:12] <wirechief> rmrfslash: what graphics card do you have ?
[14:12] <rmrfslash> Mobility RadHD 3670
[14:13] <rmrfslash> fglrx worked in 8.10
[14:13] <wirechief> x1300 here
[14:13] <rmrfslash> mines a r6xx
[14:13] <rmrfslash> apparently
[14:13] <wirechief> fglrx is a pita now
[14:14] <wirechief> i have been using a fglrx fix but not sure it works for every card
[14:14] <rmrfslash> wirechief: can you paste me ur xorg.conf
[14:14] <rmrfslash> I wanna see what options I might be missing
[14:15] <rmrfslash> xorg.conf is another train wreck
[14:15] <wirechief> rmrfslash:  at the moment im on my intel machine ;)
[14:15] <rmrfslash> oh
[14:15] <wirechief> i can go to the desktop though it has the x1300 brb
[14:16] <rmrfslash> seriously tho... what is with the restricted drivers tool saying "can't install new driver xorg.conf is invalid"
[14:17] <rmrfslash> I mean, how can it be invalid if it's working? Can't it just backup my file and make a new one or say "dud,e, you're on your own, you need to put this in your xorg.conf ______"
[14:18] <rmrfslash> I've even deleted my xorg.conf file and it still says it's invalid
[14:18] <rmrfslash> I've restored the generic failsafe xorg.conf file and it says it's invalid
[14:18] <rmrfslash> nothing makes me more frustrated than this.
[14:19] <wirechief_> http://pastebin.com/f7569b995 rmrfslash
[14:19] <mprice> I found this maybe it will help, rmfslash: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-October/162229.html
[14:25] <reese> how do I add users to 9.04? i can't find users and groups in system settings
[14:26] <Unksi> reese: use kuser
[14:30] <domker> I have problem with Canon PIMA MP170 printer. Kubuntu 9.04 show me notyfication: 'Configuring a new printer' and nothing adds
[14:32] <domker> (in kubuntu 8.10 this printer works fine)
[14:33] <wirechief> domker did you use localhost:631 to setup new printer ?
[14:34] <domker> wirechief: no - i try
[14:35] <wirechief> domker also sometimes good to know exactly where your .ppd file is, i use locate to find it
[14:40] <domker> wirechief: printer work fine, thx
[14:43] <JohanSJA> i am trying to follow this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=500208 but i can't run udevinfo
[14:43] <JohanSJA> any idea on how to solve this?
[14:43] <JohanSJA> or perhaps that only works in ubuntu
[14:47] <canen> does anyone have a definitive guide on getting good looking fonts on linux? I had autohinting off but decided to turn it on and now it's just a bag of idontknowwhat
[14:47] <canen> all the fonts seem to bleed and gtk apps are the worst culprits
[14:47] <canen> i am using the liberation fonts in firefox
[14:48] <wirechief> domker great
[14:49] <Daviddaw> hello
[14:49] <Daviddaw> Anybody know about fixing sound problems with a Toshiba Tecra M3 notebook ?
[14:50] <Daviddaw> I can't seem to get any sound
[14:53] <linux-hdtv> here, a firefox mailto link gives me a choice to open in yahoo or gmail only ...
[14:54] <ngong> installed 9.04, network manager in systray is missing, what can I do in order to get a network connection?
[14:55] <ngong> eth0 connects automatically, however, I'd like to use wlan0 as before, but how to enable?
[15:07] <poison_> im having resolution issues with my ati 3870
[15:10] <behnam> Hello
[15:10] <behnam> I'm using Kubuntu 9.04 and when I click on "Shutdown" It stops after "Unmounting file systems " and then nothing happens
[15:13] <behnam> What can I do ? please, thanks :)
[15:15] <genii> behnam: Please use the pastebin website to show us the result of:   dmesg
[15:15] <genii> !paste
[15:17] <behnam> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160039/
[15:17] <genii> behnam: Reading
[15:25] <codebaz> how to convert .rmvb on linux too avi or mpeg ?
[15:26] <trappist> codebaz: try mencoder
[15:28] <genii> behnam: At first I suspected your bios needed acpi to be forced. But it looks like a different issue.
[15:28] <behnam> What could it be ?
[15:29] <behnam> I know that my acpi-support and acpid are disabled, but it worked before
[15:29] <codebaz> trappist: please help
[15:29] <codebaz> can you type command for that ?
[15:29] <trappist> codebaz: man mencoder
[15:30] <trappist> maybe try mencoder foo.rmvb -o foo.avi... you'll get an error, but the error will give you guidance
[15:31] <genii> behnam: You may need model-specific acpi module, like toshiba_acpi or thinkpad_acpi    or so on
[15:31] <behnam> I'm not using a laptop
[15:32] <behnam> Do you think I should try to enable those services and restart ?
[15:32] <genii> behnam: Did you disable previously in the bios of your computer the acpi ?
[15:33] <behnam> I don't think so
[15:33] <behnam> I should check I'm going to do that and then see what happens
[15:33] <BooVeMan_work1> hi folks - some googling didn't through up a solution - how can I fix the update notification icon so it runs the update process (klcking it) with elevated privileges?
[15:33] <genii> behnam: OK, it would be good to look there first. The dmesg has mixed messages about it
[15:34] <behnam> Thank you ! :à
[15:34] <behnam> :)
[15:37] <turker_> swap to ntfs ?
[15:37] <wirechief> !flash
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:47]  * genii hands BluesKaj a coffee
[15:47] <dj_jean_jean> bonjour
[15:47] <dj_jean_jean> je suis sous Kubuntu 9.04 et je n'arrive pas à installer flash player
[15:48] <BluesKaj> hey genii , thx :)
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !fr | dj_jean_jean
[15:48] <dj_jean_jean> ok ++
[15:49] <BluesKaj> lots of flashplayer probs with jaunty/FF
[15:49] <LinuxApe> Anyone having problems printing to a usb printer after jaunty upgrade?
[15:50] <cthompson_> I am getting a problem after performing upgrade: the error is "config/dbus" couldn't take over org.x.config:?
[15:52] <anbesaw> anyone know about ChilliSpot?
[15:56] <ranieri> signori vi lasci a dopo
[15:57] <endy_> hi everybody....??
[15:59] <BooVeMan_work1> hi folks - some googling didn't through up a solution - how can I fix the update notification icon so it runs the update process (klcking it) with elevated privileges?
[16:02] <nameiner> BooVeMan_work: Mine does ask me when I start actually updating. Does yours not ask at all?
[16:03] <behnam> genii: I found what it was
[16:03] <behnam> the "halt" service was disabled ...
[16:04] <behnam> however, I still have a little problem
[16:04] <BooVeMan_work1> nameiner: nope - not at all
[16:05] <behnam> When I click on shutdown, everything is killed except aMsn ... I'm looking for a way to "killall wish" at shutdown
[16:06] <nameiner> BooVeMan_work: there was an update for that yesterday, so maybe if you update on a konsole once it works again. Do you know how to do that?
[16:07] <BooVeMan_work1> nameiner: after 10 year of linux - guess so
[16:08] <nameiner> BooVeMan_work: no offense, you never know who asks a question here ;)
[16:08] <BooVeMan_work1> nameiner: but there are only cups updates...- may this be from proposed?
[16:09] <cthompson_> fixed.... sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:16] <marco_PT> Hi. How do I install flash and java for konqueror browser?
[16:21] <Guest79572> hey how do I share a folder on the network?
[16:21] <BooVeMan_work1> !nfs
[16:21] <Guest79572> I rightclick on the folder -> properties ->share -> configure file sharing,  -->> but nothing happends
[16:23] <Guest79572> BooVeMan_work1: thats a lot of stuff I need to configure...isn't filesharing builtin by default?
[16:25] <Zoohouse> Quick question. If I had Kubuntu 9.04 beta and I applied all of the updates, that means I have the release vertion of Kubuntu 9.04 right?
[16:34] <pavan_> How do I type accentuated characters in Kubuntu?
[16:37] <faileas> Zoohouse: yes
[16:37]  * faileas just noticed the modifications that they did to screen
[16:37] <Zoohouse> faileas: thanks
[16:38] <corpo> Buenas...
[16:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, noobie question: Is it possible to configure xorg.conf with multiple cards/drivers so I don't have to edit the file everytime I connect my portable kubuntu to other machines?
[16:38] <corpo> familia kubuntu..soy relativamwnte nuevo con kubuntu
[16:39] <corpo> ayer mientras intentaba instalar kubuntu en una usb..(aun me falla)..dañe el sistema de mi apto
[16:39] <corpo> eso fue cuando intente boot por la usb
[16:40] <corpo> y resulta que se me daño el grub
[16:40] <faileas> er
[16:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> example: my regular available pc has an Nvidia card while my pc at the University has an intel card on it.
[16:40] <faileas> !sp
[16:40] <faileas> !es
[16:40] <corpo> me dice que no bootea
[16:40] <corpo> error 17
[16:40] <gundam_rx78nt1> corpo, favor de utilizar los canales de espanol.
[16:41] <faileas> i assume thats spanish >_>
[16:41] <faileas> gundam_rx78nt1: I know you can set more than one screen or adaptor. i don't know how they select which one to use tho
[16:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> faileas, you are correct.
[16:41] <gundam_rx78nt1> that is what I would like to find out.
[16:42] <gundam_rx78nt1> I have a script that will rename my xorg.conf_intel and xorg.conf_nvidia around to make it the default.  But I think there should be an easier way.
[16:42] <Guest8841> hi
[16:43] <Guest8841> how to get drivers of ati x1600 for kubuntu 9.04
[16:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> Guest8841, have you tried the ATI website?
[16:46] <faileas> erf
[16:46] <faileas> shipit is down
[16:46]  * faileas wanted to check if his disk order was mailed
[16:49] <BooVeMan_work1> gundam_rx78nt1: I doubt if there is an easier way to do it asits no common issue to regulary switch graphic cards - i recckon you have a mobile disk from witch you boot on different machines?
[16:55] <marco_PT> i installed kubuntu extras but i still dont have flash on konqueror. what's the solution?
[16:57] <BooVeMan_work1> !flash | marco_PT
[16:58] <MikHel> Hello!
[17:04] <marco_PT> something is wrong. I already installed flash but konqueror still has no flash. why?
[17:06] <kenan> !restricted
[17:07] <keymone> hi, why does apt-build ignores Olevel option from apt-build.conf?
[17:08] <biesdorf> wow what a bunch of users!!
[17:11]  * MikHel is having major problems with his WiFi under 9.04. Anybody using a Macbook Pro?
[17:14] <marco_PT> anyone using konqueror?
[17:16] <fdpcpn> any idea why Kate won't remember which plugins i selected to enable? have to reenable them every time.
[17:18] <ralmar> Hey guys, is it normal for me to see a process called watchdog/0 and watchdog/1 in the system monitor? Thanks
[17:22] <MikHel> ralmar: I have them on my system as well.
[17:23] <claudio_> hi,i have ubuntu 8.04 and my sound system doesn't work
[17:23] <claudio_> how can i do?
[17:23] <claudio_> please?
[17:24] <BooVeMan_work> !arts
[17:24] <BooVeMan_work> !alsa
[17:24] <BooVeMan_work> claudio_: tyr this first
[17:25] <claudio_> yes,thank you.my sound is working but i have 5 cases and the bassbooster. now are working just 2 of them.how can i do to make them all work
[17:25] <claudio_> ?
[17:26] <BooVeMan_work> in Kmixer change from 2-ch to 6-ch
[17:26] <antoranz> hi, guys!
[17:26] <antoranz> what things were inproved in the update to the network widget today?
[17:26] <antoranz> were bugs fixed?
[17:28] <Guest80235> !office
[17:28] <Guest80235> !open office
[17:29] <marco_PT> i'm so sad. I cant enable flash on konqueror. I guess I'll have to go back to Vista
[17:29] <antoranz> marco_PT
[17:29] <rufong> !ayatana
[17:30] <antoranz> I mean: marco_PT: what are you using to see flash? the mozilla plugin no free?
[17:30] <antoranz> (going back to vista for flash.... oh, buy! :-))
[17:30] <marco_PT> antoranz, i installed kubuntu_restricted_extras but i still dont have flash in konqueror
[17:31] <antoranz> mmmmmm............ does that include the plugin? let me see
[17:31] <BooVeMan_work> marco_PT: I know its a workround - but why not use firefox?
[17:31] <BooVeMan_work> marco_PT: have tried update-alternatives?
[17:31] <antoranz> marco_PT: that's a good advice for sure!
[17:32] <marco_PT> because caracters from konqueror are much more better then caracters displayed by firefox
[17:33] <claudio_> does anyone knows an application for a sound system
[17:33] <claudio_> i have a 5.1 sound system
[17:33] <marco_PT> update-alternatives?
[17:33] <claudio_> 5 casses and the bassbooster
[17:34] <antoranz> check if you have this package installed: flashplugin-nonfree
[17:34] <claudio_> is that for me
[17:34] <marco_PT> antoranz , yes, without flash kubuntu is useless for me. I'm an internet user. I like to 100% web experience. If I was just a programmer or network administrator maybe I wouldnt mind not having flash
[17:35] <antoranz> nope... marco_PT
[17:35] <antoranz> marco_PT: It's not about experience, man.. it's about freedom! (just kidding :-))
[17:36] <marco_PT> antoranz, yes, flashplugin-nonfree is installed
[17:36] <antoranz> ok
[17:36] <BooVeMan_work> marco_PT: if you are an internet user - less I understand why prefer konquereror over firefox
[17:36] <marco_PT> yes, but it will be a limited freedom :)
[17:36] <antoranz> if you go to the preferences of konqueror, in the plugins section, did you ask it to update?
[17:36] <marco_PT> antoranz, yes
[17:37] <antoranz> ok, hold on... I'm going there
[17:37] <marco_PT> BooVeMan_work, why firefox if there is konqueror?
[17:38] <BooVeMan_work> marco_PT: for konqueror was and always will be a file browser - but thats me
[17:38] <marco_PT> characters displayed by konqueror are 1000 times better then those from firefox. by caracters I mean fonts
[17:38] <BooVeMan_work> marco_PT: firefox allows extensions - never noticed any difference in that
[17:39] <marco_PT> if it is mainly a file browser why there is no firfox by default on kubuntu?
[17:40] <antoranz> marco_PT: Well.... let's just say that firefox is "better" (don't intend to start a war here, so take it easy)
[17:40] <antoranz> well... marco_PT: the plugin does show up in my list of plugins
[17:41] <marco_PT> antoranz, i know it's better but i really like konqueror
[17:41] <antoranz> is there a so that's related to flash in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/?
[17:42] <jp_> slt
[17:42] <amgarching> if I switch IPs on interfaces eth0 and eth1 will the rules of the ufw-firewall still apply correctly when I "ufw enable" it?
[17:42] <marco_PT> antoranz, yes, it shows up. but there is no flash at all. I try for example youtube and I cant see any flash content
[17:43] <antoranz> ok... in the list of directories in konqueror's plugins page, is /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/ in there?
[17:44] <commander_> does compiz fusion work with this?
[17:45] <commander_> and kopete doesn't show the pics of people who's online
[17:45] <antoranz> I'm checking and I can see youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ68hjB-RBo
[17:45] <antoranz> commander_: I think you can enable compiz... but kde4 has it's own 3d stuff built in
[17:46] <commander_> yeah i know but it don't have the domino,fire,or skewer animation i had on ubuntu
[17:47] <claudio_> does anyone how can i enter the ubuntu romania chat?
[17:47] <genii> claudio_:  /join #ubuntu-ro
[17:47] <Pici> claudio_: /join #ubuntu-roo
[17:47] <claudio_> thx
[17:47] <Pici> er, you get the idea
[17:47]  * genii hands Pici a coffee
[17:48] <BooVeMan_work> !ro | claudio_
[17:50] <marco_PT> finally I have flash :)
[17:51] <BooVeMan_work> marco_PT: what was it?
[17:51] <p-f> What's a good msn client for linux? I tried pidgin, but file transfers are slow and I keep getting switchboard errors. I also tried kopete, which is clunky. Is there anything else?
[17:51] <BooVeMan_work> p-f: amsn
[17:51] <p-f> BooVeMan_work: is that the one whose interface is all in tk?
[17:52] <BooVeMan_work> p-f: no idea - happy with pidgin
[17:52] <p-f> BooVeMan_work: ah yup, it's the tk one
[17:52] <amgarching> can anybody please "ping 129.187.157.200" and tell me if it works?
[17:53] <Pici> amgarching: works for me
[17:53] <p-f> anything else?
[17:54] <BooVeMan_work> p-f have you tried pidgin with msn-pecan?
[17:54] <MikHel> What is Jockey??
[17:54] <p-f> BooVeMan_work: ah I didn't know about msn-pecan - I'll have a look at it, thanks
[17:55] <antoranz> marco_PT: glad you don't have to go back to vista
[17:55] <antoranz> what was the problem?
[17:55] <BooVeMan_work> MikHel: manages closed source hardware drivers
[17:55] <BooVeMan_work> !jockey
[17:55] <Pici> !info jockey-kde
[17:56] <MikHel> Where do I find it in the menus?
[17:56] <amgarching> Pici: thanks, can you try it one more time?
[17:57] <BooVeMan_work> MikHel: system -> hardware drivers
[17:57] <Pici> amgarching: works again
[17:58] <pepperjack> amgarching: lemme reboot it for you
[17:58] <amgarching> Pithanks
[17:58] <pepperjack> one sec
[17:59] <MikHel> BooVeMan_work: OK I found it and it tells me madwifi is not active. ath5k does not work for me so I want to go back to madwifi, but I cannot activate it. If I press "activate" it grays out, but the madwifi is also grayed out still. What gives?
[17:59] <lupine_85> p-f, I use bitlbee + irssi + irssiproxy + xchat
[17:59] <p-f> BooVeMan_work: neat, it actually works
[17:59] <lupine_85> like http://lupine.me.uk/blog/?p=8
[17:59] <BooVeMan_work> p-f: welcome
[17:59] <amgarching> Pici: thanks again.
[17:59] <p-f> lupine_85: I'll also have a look, thanks
[18:00] <lupine_85> awesome if you happen to have a remote server sat around
[18:00] <BooVeMan_work> MikHel: in konsole kdesu jockey-kde ?
[18:00] <amgarching> pepperjack: are you serious? Tell me if you anything I should know.
[18:00] <MikHel> BooVeMan_work: I will try that. Right now I am rebooting
[18:00] <BooVeMan_work> MikHel: kdesudo
[18:00] <gundam_rx78nt1> where can I get a lower kernel version ie: 2.6.27-xx-generic to install on my jaunty install?
[18:00] <BooVeMan_work> no kdesu
[18:01] <BooVeMan_work> gundam_rx78nt1: why would you do that?
[18:01] <lupine_85> gundam_rx78nt1, in the intrepid/hardy repos
[18:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> the current kernel will not permit me to connect to wpa-enterprise encrypted networks.
[18:01] <gundam_rx78nt1> the older kernel on 8.10 works fine.
[18:01] <lupine_85> but you might want to try a .29 instead
[18:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> .29 still doesn't work.
[18:02] <lupine_85> fair enough
[18:02] <gundam_rx78nt1> I even tried 30rc and it fails to connect to wpa-eap networks.
[18:03] <gundam_rx78nt1> so I believe the "downgrade" will work.
[18:03] <pepperjack> amgarching: sorry i was joking. not really apropriate for this channel :)  seems that something is bound to port 22 on your server but the problem is you cant connect is that right?  im not sure what the problem would be.  if is a remote server you might have someone bounce it for you
[18:04] <pepperjack> amgarching: i am for instance unable to even telnet to port 22 on that ip
[18:04] <lupine_85> pepperjack, firewall in the way?
[18:04] <lupine_85> (what is the IP?)
[18:05] <pepperjack> lupine_85: amgarching's ip is 129.187.157.200
[18:05] <pepperjack> or the server in question is that ip
[18:06] <p-f> any ideas why my soundcard likes to die after coming back from suspend-to-ram?
[18:07] <p-f> the device is still there, there just isn't any sound (usually the device just goes away until I reboot though...)
[18:07]  * lupine_85 reckons there's a -j DROP somewhere between him and there. that, or the daemon is broken
[18:07] <amgarching> pepperjack: good to know, I am kind of not allowed to "ssh" from anywhere. Was testing if firewall is any good.
[18:07] <lupine_85> kill it, start a netcat server, see if you get anything through?
[18:07] <pepperjack> amgarching: ah
[18:07] <Mazugrazus> guys how to create user using command useradd ? i wanna create user with name , psw and add him to group
[18:07] <Mazugrazus> can someone write me an example
[18:07] <Mazugrazus> how to do it?
[18:08] <subcool__> hey- my audio has a annoying echo. I dont get it.. - if i play music.. it stutters like crazy. meanwhile if i goto the system settings- and play a test file from the multimedia area.. it sounds fine.
[18:09] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: "man useradd" or rather "man adduser"
[18:09] <peters_> What IRC client is easy to do split window so I can watch both ubuntuclassroom and ubuntu-classroon-chat at the same time?
[18:09] <lupine_85> Mazugrazus, use adduser instead
[18:09] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: i am read man useradd 20 times... and i cant create.
[18:10] <lupine_85> adduser is much easier: adduser foo
[18:10] <Pici> Mazugrazus: don't use useradd, use adduser instead.
[18:10] <Mazugrazus> lupine_85: i am writing bash script so i need to use user add becouse if i use adduser i cant write like this adduser user_name user_psw
[18:11] <Mazugrazus> if i use useradd i create user but cant log in with him
[18:11] <lupine_85> does your useradd user have a shell?
[18:11] <Mazugrazus> yes
[18:11] <amgarching> exactly, this what the first line of "man useradd" is suggesting
[18:12] <Mazugrazus> create new user or update existing
[18:12] <lupine_85> Mazugrazus, paste the /etc/passwd line?
[18:13] <Mazugrazus> root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[18:13] <amgarching> Mazugrazus:  useradd -d /dev/null -c "Exim Daemon" -g exim -s /bin/false -u 31 exim, Bad example I know
[18:13] <lupine_85> why are you creating a root: user?
[18:14] <Mazugrazus> i am creating bash script
[18:14] <Mazugrazus> witch must creat users
[18:14] <lupine_85> m
[18:15] <MikHel> BooVeMan_work: Thanks. It solved my problem. Though I had to reboot twice. I guess more reboots will tell me if there is a randomness to the success :)
[18:15] <Mazugrazus> here is my code: http://www.paste.lt/paste/5b598593a18062a75ecf56899e20109e
[18:15] <Mazugrazus> and the line i need to fix is 8
[18:16] <Mazugrazus> if i could set pasword using adduser i would but i dont know any options witch could help me
[18:16] <Mazugrazus> to do like this: adduser <option> user user_psw
[18:17] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: just on style: make slash explicit: $HOME_BASE/$user, dont use $USER, this is pre-set
[18:18] <lupine_85> amgarching, HOME_BASE="/home/"
[18:18] <Mazugrazus> i wanna write it :)
[18:18] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: "chown" assumes your are in /home, but you are not doing "cd"
[18:19] <amgarching> lupine_85: seen that, still one shouldnt do that
[18:19] <Mazugrazus> everything i am doing in home
[18:19] <lupine_85> eh, mayhaps
[18:19] <Mazugrazus> so whats frong with my 8 line? can anyone fix it?
[18:19] <Mazugrazus> :(
[18:19] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: prepend every line in do .. done with "echo", see how it works in dry runs
[18:20] <Mazugrazus> i done
[18:20] <Mazugrazus> and it reads file vart.txt and do everything good
[18:20] <Mazugrazus> user is created but i cant log in :?
[18:21] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: error message says?
[18:21] <Mazugrazus> no errors
[18:21] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: how do you tell that you cannot login then?
[18:21] <seanw__> Does anyone know of a button you can hold down when you click so that a link will automatically open in a new tab; instaed of having to right click "open in new tab" ( firefox )
[18:21] <subcool__> isnt it like shift or something?
[18:22] <subcool__> alt click?
[18:22] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: i log out and try to log in with them. and then i get login failed
[18:22] <seanw__> shift opened it in a new browser :P
[18:22] <subcool__> seanw__: ctrl
[18:22] <subcool__> ctrl + click
[18:22] <subcool__> i just tested it
[18:23] <seanw__> subcool__: ah tyvm
[18:23] <subcool__> np
[18:23] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: -p: The encrypted password, as returned by crypt(3). The default is to disable the account.
[18:23] <seanw__> i knew there had to be a way :P
[18:23] <subcool__> ya- im mouse lazy
[18:24] <gmiernicki> anyone noticed certain areas of the screen are drawn black since upgrading to jaunty?
[18:24] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: fu**..you are right.
[18:24] <subcool> ugh
[18:24] <gmiernicki> im using the open source nvidia drivers
[18:24] <Mazugrazus> amgarching:  could you sugest something else to use?
[18:27] <rosco_y> What is the easiest way to auto-mount a drive?
[18:27] <Mazugrazus> mount -o remount ?
[18:28] <rosco_y> Mazugrazus: and remounts whenever I reboot/startup my computer?
[18:29] <afeijo> my machine dont play dvd disks :( :(
[18:29] <rosco_y> or do I have to open up ftab or something of that nature? (newbie alert)
[18:30] <rosco_y> No, I have a hard drive that I share with a Windows drive, and I want use it when I boot linux, without having to "mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/ntfs"
[18:30] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: never done that, see if you can feed passwd to "passwd $user" maybe?
[18:31] <Mazugrazus> amgarching:  one more time explain in diferent words :)
[18:31] <rosco_y> am I getting the feeling that I'm talking to myself: hmmm, let me see....Yep, I am getting that feeling :)
[18:32] <Dragnslcr> rosco_y- in theory, the disk should be automatically detected
[18:33] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: echo "abc123\nabc123" | passwd -q username
[18:33] <Dragnslcr> rosco_y- you can take a look at /etc/fstab to see if it's listed there
[18:34] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: rather: echo -e "abc123\nabc123"
[18:35] <Mazugrazus> abc123
[18:35] <Mazugrazus> abc123
[18:35] <Mazugrazus> i get
[18:36] <Mazugrazus> and what it gives to me?
[18:36] <Mazugrazus> :?
[18:36] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: password abc123 as if typed two times by a human in response to "passwd"?
[18:37] <Mazugrazus> sorry i cant get the mind what you wanna to tell me
[18:37] <Mazugrazus> if i user adduser username
[18:38] <Mazugrazus> and then echo
[18:38] <Mazugrazus> so i wont get anything..
[18:38] <Mazugrazus> or i am wrong?
[18:38] <afeijo> how hard will it be to me replace my root hd?
[18:39] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: execute echo -e "$PASSWORD\n$PASSWORD" | passwd -q username, and see if it worked. After you did "useradd"
[18:41] <p_quarles> afeijo: it can be complicated, mainly because of the bootloader
[18:41] <afeijo> argh
[18:42] <p_quarles> but "hard" is relative to your comfort level
[18:42] <afeijo> p_quarles: there is no simple copy then
[18:42] <afeijo> p_quarles: I'm not a low newbie :)
[18:42] <p_quarles> afeijo: you could, but then you would need to install GRUB on the new disk
[18:42] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: i get  a line type new password, retaip new pasword........
[18:42] <afeijo> I tweaked GRUB couple month ago, I will search about installing it
[18:43] <p_quarles> afeijo: the other important thing is to ensure that you preserve the / filesystem's permissions and links
[18:43] <p_quarles> afeijo: cp -a is your friend in this case
[18:43] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: and I get this: Enter new UNIX password: Retype new UNIX password: passwd: password updated successfully
[18:43] <SandGorgon> wow.. anybody check out the "screen" that comes with 9.04 ? very cool
[18:44] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: *successfully*
[18:44] <Mazugrazus> so it means?
[18:44] <afeijo> p_quarles: noted!
[18:45] <afeijo> p_quarles: what about if I do a fresh install of kubuntu 8, and after that I cp -a the old disk over the new one?
[18:45] <p_quarles> SandGorgon: you mean the screen-profiles business? I disabled it because it interferes with htop :)
[18:45] <p_quarles> afeijo: I wouldn't recommend that; if you're just trying to reinstall the same packages, there are easier ways
[18:45] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: it means that user dont have pasword know?
[18:46] <afeijo> p_quarles: I did thought about restart, with the last kubuntu 8.10 and maybe kde4
[18:46] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- I'm a bit late here, but what exactly are you trying to do?
[18:46] <afeijo> p_quarles: I also need windows xp to run my daughter games lol
[18:46] <snikker> hi, how can i run a script at logoff? i'm under jaunty
[18:46] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: man, you *are* already using STDIN redirection here http://www.paste.lt/paste/5b598593a18062a75ecf56899e20109e, why not using it again for "passwd"? Type "passwd username" into cmdline and see how it works.
[18:47] <p_quarles> afeijo: not sure what you mean; "reinstall" means wiping the / partition; nothing to do with XP or any other OSes you might have on there
[18:47] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: i am creating a bash script to creat user. i am reading a file vart.txt and creating users but i cant create them correctly.
[18:48] <afeijo> p_quarles: sorry, I was just chating. Forget for now about XP, it does not exist on my machine :) Reinstall my linux, I keep only my files, and install all app that I use again
[18:48] <sponzor> ok is there any howto change ip in wlan and eth0? becose i yust cant get it working :/
[18:48] <afeijo> p_quarles: can I export a list of my app to reinstall with apt-get in one line?
[18:48] <p_quarles> afeijo: ah, ok; and fyi, you can fairly easily generate a list of the apps you have installed
[18:48] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- and how are you doing it that it isn't working? And what exactly isn't working?
[18:49] <p_quarles> afeijo: sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep '[[:space:]]install$' | awk '{print $1}' > package_list
[18:49] <Mazugrazus> dri create a user but cant log in with him
[18:49] <afeijo> fabulous!
[18:49] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr i create a user but cant log in with him
[18:49] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- how are you creating the user?
[18:49] <amgarching> Dragnslcr:  useradd seems to accept only enrcypted passwords, so Mazugrazus may want to set it with "passwd" directly
[18:49] <p_quarles> afeijo: then you can use that list to install the same packages with: cat package_list | xargs sudo apt-get install -y
[18:49] <Logi> for some reason, despite my configuration, when I close the lid on the laptop it logs me out of my X/KDE session rather than suspending to ram. But selecting "Sleep" from the Power Management thingy works.
[18:50] <p_quarles> afeijo: be forewarned that if you're changing between K/Ubuntu versions, package names change, and this will require manual pruning of that list
[18:50] <Mazugrazus> amgarching:  could you write how must look that line exectly?
[18:50] <Logi> I even logged out, deleted ~/.kde/share/config/powerdevil and logged in again to make sure I didn't accidentally leave some misconfiguration in there
[18:50] <Dragnslcr> amgarching- seems like generating the password with crypt and then sticking the encrypted string into the command would be easier
[18:51] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: echo -e "$PASSWORD\n$PASSWORD" | passwd -q username
[18:51] <afeijo> p_quarles: ok, in that case it will show up on the cmd line right?
[18:51] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: so just add this line and thats all?
[18:51] <Mazugrazus> to bash script?
[18:51] <amgarching> Dragnslcr:  he is new, he needs the simple the better
[18:51] <Logi> any idea why the machine would be doing that?
[18:52] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: try it interactively for *some* username first
[18:52] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: yes you are right i am newb
[18:52] <Mazugrazus> using ubuntu for univercity only
[18:52] <Mazugrazus> sory KubuntuŪ
[18:52] <p_quarles> afeijo: yes, missing packages will cause the second command to fail, and it will give you the name of the package that doesn't exist
[18:52] <afeijo> p_quarles: my current HD have 200gb, I will remove it and use another one of 500 gb.  I will install WinXP, than Kubuntu right? I will need Lilo ?
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> amgarching- just assigning the encrypted password to a variable would be easier than trying to mess around with the interactivity of passwd
[18:53] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: that is fine, but I need to go. Dragnslcr: not to me to Mazugrazus
[18:53] <anbesaw> Any idea how I can implement a captive portal  with http redirect?
[18:54] <Mazugrazus> this is really hard :?
[18:55] <p_quarles> afeijo: GRUB works fine for dual-booting; you don't "need" LILO, but I guess you could use it if you want
[18:55] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: it doesnt work for user
[18:55] <Mazugrazus> i tried
[18:55] <afeijo> no, it will GRUB :)
[18:55] <afeijo> I wasnt sure if grub could do it
[18:56] <Peace-> 9.04 tutorial for usb live ?
[18:57] <afeijo> is kubuntu 9 available??
[18:57] <Peace-> of course
[18:57] <afeijo> dumb me, downloading
[18:58] <afeijo> who is using it?
[18:58] <Peace-> me
[18:58] <Peace-> from alpha 4
[18:58] <BluesKaj> what about dual booting with vista , is there a recomended tutorial for restoring the vista boot menu after installing a kubuntu partition ?
[18:58] <afeijo> stable?
[18:58] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: any idea?
[18:58] <Peace-> for me yes
[18:58] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- I'm trying to find the docs for the crypt command
[18:59] <Peace-> ok i have to rebbot xD
[18:59] <amgarching> Mazugrazus: it works for me. Does user "user" already exist?
[18:59] <sponzor> why i cant change ip?:/
[19:00] <p_quarles> sponzor: what have you tried?
[19:00] <Mazugrazus> no
[19:00] <Mazugrazus> wait
[19:01] <sponzor> manage connections: add: insert ip etc... gateway change from dhcp to manual and notting. then i unplag cable and plug it, and the same dhcp no manual ip
[19:01] <afeijo> how to confirm my kubuntu version?
[19:01] <p_quarles> afeijo: lsb_release -a
[19:02] <afeijo> ubuntu 8.04.2 hardy
[19:02] <p_quarles> sponzor: does the gateway support static IP?
[19:02] <Mazugrazus> amgarching: " You may not view or modify ...... for tadas"
[19:02] <Mazugrazus> user name is tadas
[19:03] <afeijo> shall I risk updating my work machine to 9.04 ? hmm
[19:03] <sponzor> it should becose in windows everyting worked well
[19:03] <Mazugrazus> sorry didnt log as root
[19:04] <Mazugrazus> i get it password updated successfull
[19:04] <p_quarles> sponzor: iirc, the best way to get a static ip address is to turn off networkmanager and set it in /etc/network/interfaces
[19:05] <p_quarles> afeijo: what video card?
[19:05] <Mazugrazus> but still cant log in
[19:05] <sponzor> yeah that i know but i have to change ip 10-20 times a day and i thought i could use gui program :P is there any other program to manage connections wired and wlan?
[19:06] <sponzor> or any howto of the program?
[19:07] <p_quarles> sponzor: pardon my curiosity, but why 10-20 different static IPs every day? maybe there's a different solution possible?
[19:08] <sponzor> becose of work i'm configuring network security cameras... and there are "secure" networks so i cant work with dhcp i nead my ip like .222 becose of the routers... that i can access data etc.. :)
[19:09] <sponzor> its hard to explain becose i dont speak english so good
[19:11] <afeijo> p_quarles: nvidia
[19:11] <afeijo> geforce 8 series
[19:13] <p_quarles> sponzor: I understand; only thing I can think of that might be easier than editing interfaces is configuring the router to give your MAC address a certain IP address
[19:14] <p_quarles> afeijo: should be okay; you can always test with a live disk; there are problems with Intel graphics in 9.04, but nVidia's fine afaik
[19:14] <afeijo> p_quarles: I will test with live cd :)
[19:14] <afeijo> p_quarles: but in this case its the same HD, how to update without risking my system?
[19:15] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- since I can't figure out how to get crypt to just take stdin and write to stdout, the best I can find is to use this in a bash script: PASS=`perl -e 'print crypt($ARGV[0], "password")'`
[19:15] <p_quarles> afeijo: update-manager? you'll have to upgrade to 8.10 first, then to 9.04
[19:15] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- then you can use $PASS as the value for the -p option in useradd
[19:15] <Morydd> I am unable to get the network management plasmoid working. Both wired and wireless connections say "unmanaged" Any suggestions?
[19:15] <p_quarles> afeijo: anyway, the only real way to not risk your system is to have everything backed up; if you don't, it's already being risked
[19:15] <sponzor> this router is home router... i dont need this here :P but in work i nead to work like i did before strict policies...:P
[19:16] <afeijo> lol I dont have update-manager installed yet
[19:17] <p_quarles> sponzor: which networkmanager front-end are you using?
[19:17] <pepperjack>  /wc
[19:17] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: so i need just to add this line?
[19:17] <sponzor> this one from 9.04 kubuntu version
[19:18] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- and use -p $PASS in useradd
[19:18] <p_quarles> sponzor: the networkmanager plasmoid? I love it, but it's still kind of new; maybe install nm-applet and see if the static IP assignment with that works any better for you
[19:18] <afeijo> update-manager said that my system is updated, but I have kubuntu 8.04
[19:19] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: i will try
[19:19] <sponzor> ok tnx
[19:20] <p_quarles> afeijo: with Hardy, you need update-manager -d; because it's looking for the next LTS version, which isn't even in development yet
[19:21] <afeijo> updating
[19:21] <dag_> hi there!
[19:22] <dag_> did someone already updated from kubuntu intrepid to jaunty?
[19:23] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr:  http://www.paste.lt/paste/368d6234ea5939f36f5734ace77455fb
[19:23] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: it doesnt work :?
[19:23] <Mazugrazus> it said that i have error in line 8. PASS command not found
[19:24] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- you'd be better off asking in a bash or general Linux channel
[19:24] <Morydd> I am unable to get the network management plasmoid working. Both wired and wireless connections say "unmanaged" Any suggestions?
[19:25] <dag_> @ Morydd: are you connecting without Knetworkmanager at the moment?
[19:25] <genii> Morydd: Make sure your file /etc/network/interfaces          has only in it 2 lines: auto lo                  and: iface lo inet loopback
[19:26] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- it should be PASS=`perl -e 'print crypt($USER_PASSWORD, "salt")'`
[19:26] <Morydd> dag_: yes. I've manually edited /etc/network/interfaces
[19:26] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: what is salt?
[19:26] <Morydd> genii: I'll give that a shot. BRB (hopefully)
[19:26] <Dragnslcr> Mazugrazus- a string used in hashing algorithms
[19:27] <Mazugrazus> it done something :D
[19:28] <Mazugrazus> need to check :)
[19:28] <Mazugrazus> all files and folders are in place lets try to log in
[19:28] <dag_> @morydd: KNetworkManager is everytime a little buggy, I encountered many times problems with it. I usually resolve by right-clicking on KNet tray icon, then click on "switch to offline mode" and then right click again and "switch to online mode"
[19:29] <valdur55> Hey! how can use webcam in kubuntu?
[19:29] <dag_> @valdur: what kind of webcam?
[19:29] <dag_> did you try to simply log it?
[19:30] <Mazugrazus> Dragnslcr: login failed :(
[19:30] <sikor_sxe> how do i use strigi desktop search on kubuntu jaunty?
[19:30] <valdur55> Speedlink
[19:31] <dag_> valdur: usb?
[19:31] <valdur55> yes
[19:31] <dag_> valdur: and sorry, which kubuntu? 8.10?
[19:31] <Morydd> dag_: right click only shows "manage connections", "network management settings", "panel options" and "remove this network management"
[19:32] <valdur55> :) Lastest kubuntu
[19:33] <valdur55> SL-6810
[19:33] <dag_> morydd: take a look at manage connection: there you could find "default settings" or manual settings
[19:35] <amgarchIn9> where is the session editor gone: KDE 4.2.2 Jaunty. I have both knetworkmanager and plasma wireless applet starting every time. How to disable former?
[19:35] <genii> dag_: When for instance in /etc/network/interfaces you have declarations for eth0 wlan0 or so on, the gui network manager will not use or do anything with these interfaces. Because it will think they have been manually configured
[19:35] <dag_> valdur: plug in the webcam, then open Kopete and go to Settings ---> Configure -----> webcam tab; if you see your face, you're ready to use it
[19:35] <gmiernicki> anyone know the name of the package jaunty installs that provides swf in firefox?
[19:35] <gmiernicki> (flash support)
[19:36] <amgarchIn9> gmiernicki: aptitude search flash
[19:36] <ranieri> sera
[19:36] <gmiernicki> searched in synaptic and that didnt work :(
[19:36] <valdur55> But... I have touchpad.
[19:36] <valdur55> Webcame based touchpad
[19:36] <gmiernicki> gawd, its the name of some animal... i cant remember which
[19:38] <dag_> genii: it's the same problem of morydd?
[19:38] <Morydd> genii: I got no change when I cleared out /etc/network/interfaces
[19:39] <amgarchIn9> gmiernicki: flashplugin-nonfree
[19:39] <dag_> morydd: have you tried with "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"? you'll need superuser privileges to change that file
[19:39] <ranieri> come fare per caricare la lista?
[19:40] <dag_> ranieri: che lista?
[19:40] <Morydd> dag_: well, I used vi :)
[19:40] <ranieri> la lista dei canali
[19:40] <BooVeMan_work> !it | ranieri:
[19:40] <ranieri> sono nuovo e mi sto impappinando
[19:40] <Pici> .wii ranieri
[19:40] <gmiernicki> hmm, thanks for trying, but thats not it either, cuz thats not installed yet i still have flash ;D
[19:41] <Pici> oops
[19:41] <dag_> morydd: with root privileges?
[19:42] <ranieri> grazie
[19:43] <genii> dag_: I'm suspecting this is what Morydd's isue is. There should only be the "lo" declarations in that file if you want to use the gui network manager
[19:43] <Morydd> dag_: yes.
[19:43] <gmiernicki> doh, had libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins :X
[19:43] <genii> Apologies on lag, work required me
[19:43] <BooVeMan_work> genii: Can I create a bridged network interface with the GUI?
[19:44] <genii> BooVeMan_work: Not that I know of
[19:44] <BooVeMan_work> genii: thought so - so no dice for me...
[19:44] <genii> Morydd: For the changes to the interfaces file to allow Network Manager to use eth0 or so on, a reboot is best
[19:45] <_debg_> hi. Is there a way to change the icon on the kde start menu which says "Recently Used" ?
[19:45] <_debg_> which icon file is linked with the icon ?
[19:45] <Morydd> genii: Not worth it then.
[19:45] <Morydd> thanks.
[19:46] <genii> Morydd: np
[19:47] <dag_> morydd and genii: I'm using KnetworkManager, but with default values, as come with the kubuntu installation, and works fine; maybe you'll have to configure it as default, because you should use OR gui OR cli for network manager
[19:47] <Morydd> I'll continue my current tactic of "sudo -i" -> "ifdown eth1" -> "cp /etc/network/interfaces.home /etc/network/interfaces" -> "ifup eth1"
[19:48] <Morydd> I could never get the network manager to work with my home network when I first started using Ubuntu.
[19:49] <dag_> morydd: knetworkmanager is a little messy, i encountered same problems too
[19:49] <dag_> morydd: although the default values work fine for nearly every dhcp client
[19:50] <Morydd> dag_: yeah, but my home network isn't running dhcp
[19:50] <dag_> morydd: if your home network have some static IP you'll better use cli
[19:51] <dag_> morydd: after you write down the etc/network/interfaces, you should reboot your pc
[19:55] <dag_> morydd: i know that mine could seem lazy answers, but with knetworkmanager I always resolved in this manner
[19:56] <foot> my installation hangs after I select english language on toshiba laptop
[19:56] <Morydd> dag_: mine is just as lazy. I was hoping to be lazier. :)
[20:04] <james007> hello gus
[20:04] <foot> join #kubuntu
[20:06] <foot> my install hangs after I select english
[20:07] <foot> I am trying to install kubuntu on a toshiba laptop.  Ubuntu installs fine.
[20:07] <dag_> foot: can you post your machine specifications (cpu, gpu, nic, and so on) and what version of Kubuntu you are using?
[20:08] <dag_> foot: kubuntu 8.10, 9.04, 6.10, 7.04?
[20:09] <foot> It it is a toshiba L305d it has a sempron, ati .. the rest is going to take a minute for me to track down
[20:10] <foot> I am trying to install 9.04
[20:10] <mouka> How do I add awn?
[20:11] <mouka> and how do I improve the looks of synaptic?
[20:11] <mouka> it looks like it came out of the original kde
[20:11] <mouka> kde 1.0
[20:11] <mouka> weird
[20:12] <dhendu9411> greetings all!  Has anyone had display issues with an Intel chipset upon upgrading to 9.04?
[20:12] <PolitikerNEU> mouka: Do you have gtk-styles applied? If no, every gtk program in kde will look ugly
[20:12] <mouka> PolitikerNEU: how would I know?
[20:12] <mouka> I am new to ubuntu and kubuntu
[20:12] <dag_> foot: did you try to install an alternate version?
[20:13] <mouka> I installed ubunut first, then someone suggested installing kde-desktop
[20:13] <mouka> so I did
[20:13] <PolitikerNEU> mouka: maybe try installing sudo aptitude install gtk-qt-engine-kde4
[20:13] <mouka> most of the windows look nice, but synaptic just looks aweful
[20:13] <mouka> ok
[20:13] <PolitikerNEU> firefox looks good too?
[20:14] <PolitikerNEU> sorry
[20:14] <mouka> yes
[20:14] <mouka> firefox looks nice3
[20:14] <mouka> *nice
[20:14] <PolitikerNEU> the problem is that synaptics runs under root - and root has different style options than your user account
[20:14] <mouka> I see
[20:14] <mouka> how do I change that?
[20:14] <dhendu9411> has anyone experienced problems with graphics sluggishness?
[20:15] <dhendu9411> prior to the upgrade, I didn't have this problem.  Does the new version require that much more out of a person's graphics card?
[20:15] <PolitikerNEU> mouka: Don't know, maybe try running kdesu systemsettings and change appeareance --> gtk-styles
[20:16] <foot> no, I did not try the alternate version. Should I?
[20:16] <dag_> foot: toshiba website tells that L305D has a AMD Athlon X2 cpu, is this right?
[20:17] <foot> yes cpuinfo lists Sempron 3600+
[20:17] <mouka> PolitikerNEU: it says "kdesu command not found"
[20:18] <dag_> foot: take a look at http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download, and check the box below "Start Download" button
[20:18] <PolitikerNEU> mouka: Then try kdesudo or gksu
[20:18] <adasz> irc://irc.quakenet.org/regnum-online
[20:18] <dag_> foot: the alternate CD provides a simple text based installer, and sometimes this make the trick :)
[20:19] <dag_> @all: goodnight, speak to you all soon!!!
[20:20] <dag_> foot: hope that helps! ;)
[20:21] <james007> hello
[20:23] <teatime> hi all
[20:24] <skierpage> Is there a way to determine how a packaged binary was compiled (bugs.kde.org wants to know)?  `file` doesn't say.
[20:24] <teatime> I'm just trying out kubuntu 9.04 on my thinkpad with intel 965 graphics.. it keeps hardlocking X.
[20:25] <teatime> known issue?
[20:26] <teatime> I tried turning off kwin compositing, it still locks up
[20:26] <teatime> apart from this minor detail, everything works great. 9.04 is impressive :)
[20:27] <BluesKaj> teatime, intel media probs is a known issue on 9.04
[20:28] <teatime> BluesKaj: ok. thanks.
[20:28] <teatime> pity :(
[20:29] <BluesKaj> teatime,  checkout launchpad for bugfixes..there are some
[20:29] <teatime> will do
[20:30] <wirechief> BluesKaj: the bug report for intel freezes is now over 300 threads
[20:30] <teatime> BluesKaj: as soon as I figure out what launchpad is.. I'm about 2 days old in k/ubuntu :)
[20:31] <teatime> wirechief: well.. good to hear it's known at least :)
[20:32] <wirechief> teatime they are getting close to a work around, still testing it.
[20:33] <teatime> sounds good
[20:33]  * teatime browses launchpad
[20:33] <wirechief__> i  think the irc is back
[20:34] <wirechief__> !time
[20:42] <dhendu9411> wirecheif: would the intel issue mentioned above cause display lag and/or graphics corruption?
[20:45] <vital> is there some nice library similar to the fmodex that is under gpl that I can use for the game I'm coding (to be released under gpl)? I need to play mod/xm/wav and preferably not SDL
[20:45] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: the issue has been a solid freeze. the mouse works but the screen is frozen and i found that i can recover using RSEIUB
[20:46] <dhendu9411> wirechief: do you know of any known issues with the intel gm965 video chipset?
[20:47] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: thats the chip i have ;)
[20:47] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: there are several bugs affecting us and they are working at parseing them out
[20:48] <dhendu9411> wirechief: for some reason, when I upgraded, the graphics seem very slow and when I use KATE, the wording disappears and sometimes whatever is behind KATE will leak into its display.
[20:50] <Logi> why isn't aptitude using my cdrom for packages which haven't been updated in the last couple of days? I did "apt-cdrom add", a line appeared in sources.list, and when I asked aptitude to update the package list, it spun up the cdrom. Then it goes on to download everything anyway.
[20:50] <besitzer_> hello
[20:51] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: well maybe you can search launchpad for similar issues
[20:51] <dhendu9411> wirechief: I appreciate your help.  I read on a forum (I think) that the upgrade to 9.04 also upgrades the Intel driver.  Is this correct?
[20:51] <besitzer_> a german user here
[20:52] <BooVeMan_work> !de
[20:52] <dhendu9411> wirechief: launchpad.ubuntu.com ?
[20:52] <ralmar> Hey guys I just bought 4 gigs of ram. What do you recommend me to do: a)Install 9.04 64bit edition, b)Install 9.04 32bit edition and then install server kernel or c) Other... ? Thanks
[20:53] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[20:53] <edmund> hello
[20:53] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: yes to the driver upgradeing
[20:53] <edmund> I was wondering if anyone coud help with with something apt-get related?
[20:54] <BooVeMan_work> !question | edmund
[20:54] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: just search for intel driver or so
[20:55] <bindaas> ralmar: i don't think you will find any difference in kernel of desktop and server
[20:56] <cecko> hi all, microphone on my dell precision m4400 does not work, no matter what I try in alsamixer
[20:56] <edmund> hello, when i try to downlaod a and intsall a package I get these errors:
[20:56] <edmund> sudo apt-get install libpng3-devReading package lists... Done
[20:56] <edmund> Building dependency tree
[20:56] <edmund> Reading state information... Done
[20:56] <edmund> Package libpng3-dev is a virtual package provided by:
[20:56] <edmund>   libpng12-dev 1.2.27-1ubuntu0.1
[20:56] <edmund> You should explicitly select one to install.
[20:56] <edmund> E: Package libpng3-dev has no installation candidate
[20:56] <edmund> could someone help me with this please?
[20:57] <ralmar> bindass i think the server kernel can handle all 4 gigs and more...
[20:58] <bindaas> ralmar: what are you trying to do?
[20:58] <BooVeMan_work> edmund: try sudo apt-get install libpng12-dev
[20:58] <ralmar> HAve ubuntu recognize and use all 4 gb of my ram, not just 3.25
[20:58] <ralmar> bindaas
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> ralmar- the only way to use 4+ GB of memory is to use the 64-bit version
[21:01] <edmund> ah yes thats working thanks booveman_work, the thing is I have a big list of thinkgs to install (E17 dependancies), and I was getting this error with multiple things. I'm following the tutorial here:                     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=E17+cvs
[21:02] <ralmar> dragnslcr.. nope Im pretty sure youre wrong. Think you can have the 32bit version with another kernel (server or something like that)
[21:02] <pseudoroot> hola
[21:02] <pseudoroot> algun colombiano por estos lado
[21:02] <genii> !es | pseudoroot
[21:02] <pseudoroot> genii me puedes ayudar
[21:03] <dhendu9411> wirechief: thanks again for your help
[21:03] <bindaas> ralmar: you can do that with 32 bit server kernel
[21:03] <ralmar> bindaas.. i know hence my question "Hey guys I just bought 4 gigs of ram. What do you recommend me to do: a)Install 9.04 64bit edition, b)Install 9.04 32bit edition and then install server kernel or c) Other... ? Thanks"
[21:04] <bindaas> but installing a server kernel for a desktop then doing a gnome or kubuntu on it just to support 4 gb ram?
[21:05] <genii> amarock / pseudoroot: Esta área es lengua inglesa exclusivamente. Visite el área indicada para la lengua española.
[21:05] <AfrOTRokHE> all
[21:05] <AfrOTRokHE> =)
[21:06] <yeoj_> I just installed 9.04, and my sound has worked on every other system, but all of a sudden no sound... I dont understand.  It finds my sound blaster live audigy value, but no go.
[21:06] <wirechief__> dhendu9411: np
[21:07] <skierpage> Please benevolent wiki fairy update https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu for 9.04!  It doesn't make any sense with no adept and new KPackageKit
[21:08] <brad_> synaptic?
[21:08] <brad_> Thats what I use
[21:08] <brad_> Does anyone have an idea when shipit will be back online?
[21:09] <wirechief__> yeoj_:  maybe some help over on #alsa for your sound issue
[21:10] <skierpage> brad_ , no Synaptic on my fresh Kubuntu 9.04.  It's KPackageKit or the command line.
[21:10] <brad_> Ah
[21:10] <brad_> Yeah, I upgraded
[21:11] <brad_> Can you not get it from dotdeb, then install it with KPackageKit
[21:12] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! any idea on how to fix the error 'Kompare cannot parse diff output'? I am on Ubuntu 8.10 with Gnome
[21:13] <brad_> Please ask in the ubuntu channel
[21:13] <brad_> this is for kubuntu support
[21:14] <mouka> I can someone please help with cairo-dock?
[21:14] <skierpage> brad_ thanks but that makes no sense (I've only been a Kubuntu user for 50 hours).  I believe KPackageKit > Settings > Edit Software Sources > Third-party Software might work, but the doc is out-of-date.
[21:16] <ikla> why does apt-get say openssh-server is not available for install?
[21:17] <besitzer_> hello
[21:18] <brad_> @Skierpage, just google synaptic installer deb file
[21:18] <brad_> Then double click it
[21:19] <brad_> this should install it with kpackagekit
[21:20] <fjallagyldir_> hej guys maybe one of you has an idea how to workaround the jaunty intel VGA bug
[21:20] <brad_> Yup
[21:20] <brad_> Is the system running slow?
[21:21] <fjallagyldir_> i m glad for every suggestion ...
[21:21] <brad_> Is your system crashing and running slow?
[21:21] <fjallagyldir_> brad_, no a little slow but the main issu is that i cant watch any videos anymore
[21:22] <brad_> Ah ok
[21:22] <brad_> Well, to fix the slowness
[21:22] <brad_> You need to open xorg.conf in terminal
[21:22] <fjallagyldir_> every player is crashing with the typical "bad alloc"  error
[21:22] <Janne38> Hello! I have problem with the resulution. The pic is not fiting in the screen.
[21:23] <brad_> Hmm
[21:23] <fjallagyldir_> yes brad_ ?
[21:23] <brad_> have you got the correct codects etc?
[21:23] <skierpage> brad_ I don't want to install "synaptic", I want to install Amarok 2.1 beta on Kubuntu 9.04 and then fix the wiki pages for the benefit of humanity.
[21:23] <fjallagyldir_> yes i do brad_
[21:23] <skierpage> brad_ If the answer is to install a different package manager then it seems Kubuntu has some real issues.
[21:23] <brad_> One sec fjallagy.
[21:24] <fjallagyldir_> it isnt a codec issue also reinstall kubuntu-media-restricted
[21:24] <fjallagyldir_> k brad_
[21:24] <brad_> You can install .deb files through kpackagekit
[21:24] <brad_> Give me a couple of seconds to look at it
[21:24] <brad_> (I dont use it that often)
[21:25] <brad_> Ok
[21:25] <fjallagyldir>  
[21:25] <brad_> Open kpackagekit
[21:25] <brad_> And search amarok
[21:25] <skierpage> brad_ NP, I'm getting a little whiplashed after being pointed at apt / dpkg / aptitude / KPackageKit / adept / Synaptics / ... :-)
[21:26] <brad_> Ok
[21:26] <brad_> Forget all the other stuff
[21:26] <brad_> Just think about KPackageKit as your software manager
[21:26] <|PaperTiger|> Two questions: What is the best program I can use to back up my entire system, including settings etc. And what program should I use to format a hard drive?
[21:27] <skierpage> brad_ Yup, Amarok is there.  But I want the beta version, which I think involves a different PPA, something like "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu intrepid main" ?
[21:27] <brad_> Ah ok
[21:27] <brad_> Right
[21:27] <fjallagyldir> live system and 'dd'
[21:27] <brad_> The repositories will not have beta stuff
[21:28] <fjallagyldir> and for formating 'fdisk' and 'mkfs'
[21:28] <brad_> You need to add the Amarok repository
[21:29] <fjallagyldir> or when not fmiliar with cmd-line maybe qparted or so
[21:29] <skierpage> brad_ Right, so Settings > Edit Software Sources > Third-Party Software "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu jaunty main" ?
[21:29] <brad_> Let me check the URL
[21:30] <brad_> 2 seconds
[21:30] <fjallagyldir> if you have questions try manpages first |PaperTiger|
[21:30] <brad_> Yep, thats the one
[21:30] <skierpage> brad_ (thanks a lot BTW) looks like "pool/main" exists but not "dists/jaunty" , maybe I should ask (again) in #amarok
[21:30] <dhendu9411> exit
[21:31] <brad_> yeah
[21:31] <brad_> Just double check the repo stuff there
[21:32] <|PaperTiger|> fjallagyldir, manpages?
[21:32] <fjallagyldir> man 'cmd' gives you the manual pages of most commands in linux
[21:32] <|PaperTiger|> Okay...
[21:32] <skierpage> brad_ Will do and I'll have a go at updating https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[21:33] <fjallagyldir> i meant 'man "cmd"'
[21:36] <skierpage> heh, adding a software source in KPackageKit while Software Update was downloading has locked up both of them. 8-/
[21:39] <tehboriz> hey everyone i enabled coolbits but for some reason my video card doesn't want to overclock. It just jumps back to default settings. i tried nvidia-settings and nvclock, and nvclock-gtk
[21:52] <zerothis> how often has this happened? <http://digg.com/linux_unix/Proprietary_Software_Can_Kill_You?FC=PRCK4>
[21:52] <siegfried_> !restricted
[21:52] <vlad> where am i?
[21:52] <vlad> is this heaven?
[21:52] <genii> !hi
[21:52] <vlad> thanks
[21:53] <vlad> can anyone explain to me what this is in one sentence?
[21:53] <genii> vlad: An IRC channel to assist people who use the operating system called Kubuntu linux
[21:54] <vlad> awesome, thanks genii!
[21:54] <genii> vlad: Anytime. You have some support question regarding Kubuntu?
[21:55] <mahi> can someone help me get apache running on my localhost, not domain??
[21:55] <CradLeRcker> is there a way to completely remove kde from ubuntu?
[21:55] <vlad> a couple. thanks for assist though.
[21:55] <CradLeRcker> if there is can someone explain?
[21:55] <cratylus> hey all, i picked a screen effect that apparently my OSdidn't like and now when i log in i just get the wall paper.  i can reach the command line.  what's the easiest way to undo or reset my set up (using kubuntu 9.04, with kde 4.2)
[21:55] <JontheEchidna> !puregnome | CradLeRcker
[21:56] <CradLeRcker> thx
[21:57] <zerothis> CradLeRcker: be aware that even if you never log in to a KDE session, some of your software may depend on it anyway
[21:57] <vlad> i resized a taskbar today, but how would i be able to set it back to the normal height without adjusting it manually?
[21:57] <CradLeRcker> mhmm yes im taking note of that
[21:57] <vlad> by a normal height i mean a height of a taskbar right after the install
[21:58] <vlad> sorry, it might sound like a stupid question :)
[21:59] <vlad> and my other question is why doesn't "System Settings" appear in my Kickoff K-menu? it took me an hour to work out how to turn to classical menu and back to Kickoff.
[22:00] <vlad> i am new to Kubuntu :)
[22:00] <tehboriz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1141733 some help plz?
[22:00] <BooVeMan_work> vlad: in Kickoff menu -> Computer -> system Settings
[22:02] <vlad> BooVeMan, i admit to be a moron! thanks! how could i not see it? probably assumed it was like Computer folder in M$ :)
[22:03] <afeijo> system updated... rebooting, wish me luck!
[22:03] <vlad> BooVeMan_work: thank you ;)
[22:03] <tehboriz> i want help plz ;d
[22:10] <vlad> cool
[22:10] <fjallagyldir> why do u wanna overclock ur vid card tehboriz
[22:10] <tehboriz> fjallagyldir: it's really really choppy in 90% of the games i have, and believe me when it's oc'ed it performs MUCH better
[22:11] <tehboriz> 2x as much fps as on defaults
[22:11] <tehboriz> i built a custom case for my laptop, i certainly did my cooling system right
[22:14] <recep> s.a.
[22:16] <tehboriz> recep: wat
[22:17] <tehboriz> so then no solution? bummer
[22:24] <alonea> ok, how do I connect to a network printer???? I have the IP address for it, but after that I dont know what to do. What is this Queue stuff????
[22:27] <alonea> I dont even see a thing to scan the printers on the network or anything.
[22:29] <alonea> I used to be able to do this easy, but I dont see any of the screens I used to use before. Anyone???
[22:31] <alonea> !print
[22:33] <DoubleD84> I'm having problems with Kontact and the rest of the programs associated with it. I'm running Kubuntu 9.04 and I'm getting an undefined symbol error in libQtDesigner.so.4.. I can't of anything I've installed and I've found a big I think is related but none of the solutions pertain to me. Google hasn't really given me any solid results as well. Any ideas?
[22:33] <BooVeMan_work> hi folks - some googling didn't through up a solution - how can I fix the update notification icon so it runs the update process (klicking it) with elevated privileges?
[22:37] <odyn_> ooooooooooooooooo
[22:38] <alonea> I still can't figure out how to print to a printer that is 3 feet away from me that everyone else in the room can print on in 2 secs on windows and mac
[22:38] <DoubleD84> n/m.. read up on apt-get and simply reinstalled the libQt4-Designer package and everything works fine.
[22:41] <jimmy51_home> oooh, the new update manager is slick
[22:41] <Vekulica> !wine
[22:42] <LaZyFo0L> can someone help me setup virtual box with windows xp pro?
[22:42] <BooVeMan_work> jimmy51_home: no its not - as it won't work for me
[22:42] <LaZyFo0L> or at least point me to a faq or somethin
[22:42] <BooVeMan_work> !virtualbox
[22:42] <LaZyFo0L> TY
[22:44] <FloridaGuy> runing ubuntu 9.04 installed kde 4.2.2....did sudo apt-get install kdebase...dident show up in gdm anyone know what to do
[22:51] <afeijo> hey, kubuntu 8.10 is great :)
[22:51] <afeijo> loooooooooooooong time to update, but...
[22:53] <vlad__> hi again
[22:54] <vlad__> my laptop fails to start after going to Sleep or Suspended modes
[22:54] <odyn__> jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
[22:54] <vlad__> is this a bug or my computer is misconfigured
[22:54] <vlad__> ?
[22:54] <BooVeMan_work> whatr gives if KPAckageKit does not ask for my passwoord and runs under user-context?
[23:07] <Froad> vlad__; go to #ubuntu more people there
[23:09] <ralpho> BooVeMan_work: I think settings select and at bottom default will set it so it this use only.  i think. its new
[23:09] <tobi_> !sound
[23:10] <denton> hey guys
[23:10] <denton> I need to reconfigure my xorg.conf
[23:11] <denton> change my default resolution, and change my drivers..
[23:12] <denton> is there some sort of generalized xorg file i could just stick in my file instead of using mine?
[23:12] <denton> Vmware Workstation has not configured my xorg.conf and a copy/paste with some tweaking should be ok right?
[23:15] <tobi_> updated my kde3 with Jaunty! After that my sound's not working anymore... thought it might be PulseAudio working not right. So I removed every Pulse entry with synaptic. But it's still in my Systemsettings/Multimedia... And I cant play audio from HD, even not on youtube! Start and Testsound working finde through the HDA Intel Analog device... Someone might have a clou?!
[23:16] <mackk431> swine flue will kill us all
[23:17] <mackk431> tobi did you check if the sound is muted?
[23:18] <tobi_> well, as I said, the Testsound and the Startsound works fine!
[23:18] <tobi_> It's like the photograph with the cap on the cam ready to shoot :D
[23:20] <denton> Vmware Workstation has not configured my xorg.conf and i need to run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[23:20] <denton> correct
[23:20] <denton> ?
[23:24] <tobi_> after removing Pulse I have to install ALSA instead?!
[23:24] <tobi_> Jaunty has no ALSA anymore right ?
[23:29] <ralmar> Hey guys, I currently have ubuntu 8.10 and an ATI RADEON HD4830. Are there problems with 9.04 and this card? Thanks
[23:34] <ralmar> Hey guys, I currently have ubuntu 8.10 and an ATI RADEON HD4830. Are there problems with 9.04 and this card? Thanks
[23:38] <arcolinux> hello
[23:38] <arcolinux> jejejeje
[23:39] <arcolinux> it quassel is better tahn konversation
[23:39] <arcolinux> i think
[23:39] <francois> !remove
[23:39] <LjL> !better
[23:39] <arcolinux> at least is the same thing but with different ways to configuate it
[23:39] <arcolinux> jajaja
[23:40] <dnl> would anyone have any idea why my box keeps pulling an IP via dhcp even though i have a static IP setup in /etc/network/interfaces.  it keeps going back to an IP that is not the one I assigned even without restarting the pc.
[23:42] <javier> Hola a todos...
[23:59] <ljupco> heloo