| wgrant | Have I missed the downtime announcement? | 02:26 |
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| spm | err what? | 02:27 |
| wgrant | There's meant to be a Launchpad release some time tomorrow. | 02:27 |
| wgrant | But we haven't been told when. | 02:28 |
| wgrant | AFAICS | 02:28 |
| spm | oh. that'll be our thursday morning. so ~ 44 hours awayish. | 02:28 |
| wgrant | Ah. | 02:28 |
| wgrant | It would be nice if the announcement went out more than a day in advance. | 02:28 |
| wgrant | So we can plan rollouts that generally involve Launchpad-hosted branches. | 02:29 |
| spm | nah. more than 15 seconds notice is over-planned. living on the bleeding edge is good for your blood pressure! | 02:30 |
| spm | ... says he who has been known to schedule outages 2 months in advance... ;-) | 02:31 |
| spm | seriously tho. I haven't heard it's off, so assume it's still on. no idea (yet) how last weeks fun may/not impact. | 02:32 |
| wgrant | I suppose I need to complain to mrevell. | 02:32 |
| spm | ask nicely might work better :-) | 02:33 |
| wgrant | Probably. | 02:34 |
| mwhudson | this rollout should be almost downtime free aiui | 02:34 |
| mwhudson | (but launchpad will be read-only for a while) | 02:34 |
| mwhudson | of course this means a new procedure etc, so things could potentially fall down in flames :) | 02:34 |
| wgrant | I saw that read-only-launchpad was landed this cycle, but thought that would only affect the rollout after. | 02:35 |
| mwhudson | ah, maybe | 02:35 |
| wgrant | But having it read-only is also not entirely good in case last-minute fixes are needed. So more notice would still be good. | 02:37 |
| mwhudson | yes | 02:37 |
| mwhudson | not disputing that | 02:37 |
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| ScottK | Is the publisher crashing? I see some builds sitting accepted for over an hour. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1~intrepid1/+build/961586 is an example. | 05:25 |
| ScottK | Nevermind. Seems find now. | 06:13 |
| gspr | Is the PPA size estimate still off? | 06:55 |
| gspr | my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~gspreemann/+archive/ppa) is estimated at 935 MB, but it doesn't seem right at all | 06:55 |
| spm | gspr: is showing 560Mb for me. you may have hit a mid update or something? | 06:56 |
| wgrant | It was bigger this morning. | 06:57 |
| wgrant | The files probably hadn't been removed yet. | 06:57 |
| gspr | ah, thank you guys | 06:57 |
| gspr | I just hadn't refreshed it from last night :) | 06:57 |
| spm | one way to solve the discussion - time to drag du out. brb. | 06:57 |
| gspr | 560 makes a lot more sense :) | 06:58 |
| wgrant | gspr: Packages aren't actually removed from the archive disk for around a day after you delete them. | 06:58 |
| spm | gspr: yup. 564 on disk according to du. you're in the clear. | 06:58 |
| wgrant | They are removed from the indices, but not the disk, within 20 minutes. | 06:58 |
| gspr | yeah, I was just a bit confused yesterday, because the size estimate seemed to be way off. Then I deleted some stuff I didn't need anymore, and only after I did that did I realize that maybe that stuff could actually account for the huge size ;) | 07:00 |
| gspr | thanks again | 07:00 |
| spm | gspr: be aware that you can request more space if you really need it. just ask in a question via the Questions/Answers part of launchpad. | 07:03 |
| gspr | spm: Yeah, I know. I just thought I would make sure I wasn't keeping crap around before asking | 07:06 |
| spm | gspr: now THAT's the attitude we like to see! :-D | 07:07 |
| gspr | I gotta run... If you have anything to do with the PPAs, spm, I'd like to thank you for a great service. The PPA system is brilliant :) | 07:08 |
| spm | gspr: thanks, I'll pass that on to the developers! | 07:09 |
| rowinggolfer | morning folks. | 09:57 |
| rowinggolfer | I have a couple of newbie questions again. | 09:57 |
| rowinggolfer | my project is http://launchpad.net/openmolar | 09:57 |
| rowinggolfer | and last night, I successfully built my first deb! | 09:58 |
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| rowinggolfer | however, I am a crap coder, and I keep breaking the app. | 09:58 |
| rowinggolfer | so I have 2 questions. | 09:59 |
| rowinggolfer | 1. how to make a dev branch? | 09:59 |
| rowinggolfer | 2. how to use my ppa to automate the deb builds. | 09:59 |
| * rowinggolfer needs a mentor | 09:59 | |
| noodles775 | Hi rowinggolfer :), congrats on creating your first deb! | 10:03 |
| noodles775 | I'm sure I'm a crap dentist too, so good thing I'm not working on your teeth ;) | 10:03 |
| noodles775 | Have you read the help instructions for PPAs yet? | 10:04 |
| noodles775 | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 10:06 |
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| rowinggolfer | noodles I have, but am a little confused. | 10:11 |
| rowinggolfer | the PPA would be _my_ PPA, ? linked to my profile? | 10:12 |
| rowinggolfer | so independent of the project?? | 10:12 |
| noodles775 | rowinggolfer: that's correct. But you can also create a team for your development work, and then use the team's PPA. | 10:13 |
| rowinggolfer | a one man team? | 10:14 |
| noodles775 | rowinggolfer: yeah, it's not worth it unless you later get some other people helping... for now I'd just use your own PPA. | 10:14 |
| rowinggolfer | ok. | 10:14 |
| rowinggolfer | looking at the link you kindly provide, I seem to have ticked most of the boxes | 10:15 |
| noodles775 | Great work! | 10:15 |
| rowinggolfer | well the howtos are well written | 10:16 |
| rowinggolfer | but I am often a little nervous making the final steps | 10:16 |
| noodles775 | rowinggolfer: yeah, mrevell is pretty good with words ;) | 10:16 |
| mrevell | Oh thanks -- if there's anything that needs changing in the guides then make sure to let me know or just file a bug against LP :) | 10:18 |
| rowinggolfer | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rowinggolfer/openmolar/trunk/files/head%3A/dist/ | 10:19 |
| rowinggolfer | mrevell: their is one typo is the python packaging page. | 10:19 |
| rowinggolfer | I will report that | 10:19 |
| rowinggolfer | ok...so I have a deb within that link.... | 10:19 |
| rowinggolfer | (which works.. but the program id useless without a suitable database) | 10:20 |
| rowinggolfer | so that's what needs to go into my ppa? | 10:20 |
| noodles | rowinggolfer: sorry, I lost my connection earlier, I had replied to your question, but it didn't get through: | 11:29 |
| noodles | <noodles775> rowinggolfer: yes, the deb source package is what you'll upload to your ppa, and the binary packages will be built from that. | 11:29 |
| noodles | <noodles775> rowinggolfer: but it's independent of your code... you upload it from your local machine (using dput - see Uploading section on the above help link) | 11:29 |
| noodles | <noodles775> (I could be wrong, but normally you wouldn't commit your deb source package as part of your source tree) | 11:29 |
| * noodles has been limited to web app development, and hasn't done much packaging. | 11:30 | |
| wgrant | mrevell: Can we please have more notice for future downtime? | 11:31 |
| mrevell | Hi there wgrant -- do you have a recent down-time in mind? | 11:32 |
| wgrant | mrevell: The one in a day or two. | 11:32 |
| mrevell | wgrant: Aha, well there'll be virtually no down-time for this next roll-out :) | 11:33 |
| wgrant | mrevell: Will it be read-only, or just really short? | 11:33 |
| mrevell | wgrant: This will be the first roll-out for read-only. Hence I'm sending an email today detailing what's going to happen and how it'll be different. | 11:34 |
| mrevell | wgrant: So, it's a limited service | 11:34 |
| mrevell | but still available to get data out | 11:34 |
| mrevell | and use the OpenID to get into other services | 11:34 |
| mrevell | such as the Ubuntu wiki | 11:34 |
| rowinggolfer | noodles - thanks. | 11:34 |
| mrevell | wgrant: I could send the notification on the Friday before the roll-out, though, as we still need to let people to know about read-only. | 11:35 |
| wgrant | mrevell: I'm aware of the functionality and reasoning for the read-onlyness. But more than a couple of days of notice would be good, given that you probably know weeks before. | 11:35 |
| wgrant | And some of us need to plan rollouts of our own, and it's not good to have LP down around that time. | 11:35 |
| mrevell | wgrant: fair point. The full calendar, as we have it, is here -- https://dev.launchpad.net/Releases/2009Calendar | 11:37 |
| mrevell | hey wgrant, what's your t-shirt size? | 11:38 |
| wgrant | mrevell: From the UDS ones, L seems to have been best. | 11:39 |
| mrevell | wgrant: message me your postal address and I'll get a Launchpad shirt in the mail for you. | 11:39 |
| mrevell | wgrant: that's assuming you want one, heh | 11:39 |
| wgrant | mrevell: Knowing the date helps, but sometimes LP will be down for several times longer than usual, or at a different time. You would hopefully know that more than two days before, except in exceptional circumstances. | 11:40 |
| wgrant | mrevell: Thanks! | 11:40 |
| mrevell | wgrant: Length of down-time isn't something we generally know until quite close to the date, hence one of the reasons for leaving the mail till later on. | 11:40 |
| wgrant | mrevell: Hrm, OK... | 11:41 |
| lifeless | mrevell: two mails perhaps :P | 11:46 |
| mrevell | lifeless: Heh, it's an option but I bet most recipients would prefer not to have two emails :) I'll make it clearer in the next email that the release calendar is public and available for everyone. | 11:47 |
| t0mppa | hello, can anyone help me with importing an openpgp key to my launchpad account or did I stumble to the wrong place? | 12:00 |
| rowinggolfer | hey t0mppa | 12:02 |
| rowinggolfer | have you read https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey | 12:03 |
| rowinggolfer | an excellent how to I followed last week | 12:03 |
| rowinggolfer | if I can do it... anyone can! | 12:03 |
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| t0mppa | ah now I see it, was trying to use the uid instead of pub to send it and it refused to send | 12:08 |
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| t0mppa | that settled it, thanks! | 12:10 |
| t0mppa | the import page was just talking about key-id and that was a bit confusing | 12:11 |
| rowinggolfer | t0mppa: direct your comments at mrevell-lunch - don't let him enjoy his free time ;) | 12:11 |
| t0mppa | i'm not that evil, problem was more of silly me not finding the help page really :) | 12:13 |
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| eagles0513875 | is launchpad on the fritz today on the sluggish side | 14:56 |
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| MagicFab | weird in this bug, upstream status appears as "UPSTREAM CLOSED" and in LP is shows as "FIX RELEASED": | 19:56 |
| MagicFab | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/220825 | 19:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 220825 in virt-manager "SSH dialog for first remote connection to unknown server should not be a password field" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 19:56 |
| dgt84 | Hey, I'm trying to push a release on launchpad for my project but I'm not sure I understand how this is done... anybody around that could help? | 21:06 |
| beuno | dtchen, sure | 21:08 |
| beuno | you want to upload a tarball? | 21:08 |
| beuno | or a branch? | 21:08 |
| beuno | dgt84, | 21:15 |
| beuno | sorry | 21:15 |
| beuno | misspinged | 21:15 |
| beuno | ^ | 21:15 |
| dgt84 | beuno, I have a branch in bzr that I tagged and created a tarball of. I'd like to upload the tarball if possible but I can't figure out where that can be done. I created a new series called 'stable' but there is nothing on the page about releases. | 21:16 |
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| beuno | dgt84, right, it's a bug in the UI that's being fixed | 21:19 |
| dgt84 | beuno, so what can I do to make a release? | 21:20 |
| dgt84 | beuno, seems I can do it on edge.launchpad.net, will try that | 21:21 |
| beuno | you need to create a milestone | 21:23 |
| beuno | and then you can create a release off of it | 21:23 |
| beuno | dgt84, create a milestone off the new series | 21:23 |
| beuno | and then a release off of that milestone | 21:23 |
| dgt84 | beuno, k | 21:23 |
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| dgt84 | beuno, that all seems to work now, thakns a lot for you help! | 21:25 |
| beuno | dgt84, you're welcome | 21:25 |
| beuno | and sorry about the pain | 21:25 |
| beuno | we're making it awesome | 21:25 |
| beuno | just had to break things a bit :) | 21:25 |
| dgt84 | beuno, no worries, I'm pretty new to Launchpad but very impressed so far. | 21:25 |
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| geser | cprov: shouldn't the source packages copied from jaunty to karmic which FTBFS get a new build attempt in karmic? | 22:38 |
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