[02:26] Have I missed the downtime announcement? [02:27] err what? [02:27] There's meant to be a Launchpad release some time tomorrow. [02:28] But we haven't been told when. [02:28] AFAICS [02:28] oh. that'll be our thursday morning. so ~ 44 hours awayish. [02:28] Ah. [02:28] It would be nice if the announcement went out more than a day in advance. [02:29] So we can plan rollouts that generally involve Launchpad-hosted branches. [02:30] nah. more than 15 seconds notice is over-planned. living on the bleeding edge is good for your blood pressure! [02:31] ... says he who has been known to schedule outages 2 months in advance... ;-) [02:32] seriously tho. I haven't heard it's off, so assume it's still on. no idea (yet) how last weeks fun may/not impact. [02:32] I suppose I need to complain to mrevell. [02:33] ask nicely might work better :-) [02:34] Probably. [02:34] this rollout should be almost downtime free aiui [02:34] (but launchpad will be read-only for a while) [02:34] of course this means a new procedure etc, so things could potentially fall down in flames :) [02:35] I saw that read-only-launchpad was landed this cycle, but thought that would only affect the rollout after. [02:35] ah, maybe [02:37] But having it read-only is also not entirely good in case last-minute fixes are needed. So more notice would still be good. [02:37] yes [02:37] not disputing that === abentley1 is now known as abentley === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [05:25] Is the publisher crashing? I see some builds sitting accepted for over an hour. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-runtime/4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1~intrepid1/+build/961586 is an example. [06:13] Nevermind. Seems find now. [06:55] Is the PPA size estimate still off? [06:55] my PPA (https://launchpad.net/~gspreemann/+archive/ppa) is estimated at 935 MB, but it doesn't seem right at all [06:56] gspr: is showing 560Mb for me. you may have hit a mid update or something? [06:57] It was bigger this morning. [06:57] The files probably hadn't been removed yet. [06:57] ah, thank you guys [06:57] I just hadn't refreshed it from last night :) [06:57] one way to solve the discussion - time to drag du out. brb. [06:58] 560 makes a lot more sense :) [06:58] gspr: Packages aren't actually removed from the archive disk for around a day after you delete them. [06:58] gspr: yup. 564 on disk according to du. you're in the clear. [06:58] They are removed from the indices, but not the disk, within 20 minutes. [07:00] yeah, I was just a bit confused yesterday, because the size estimate seemed to be way off. Then I deleted some stuff I didn't need anymore, and only after I did that did I realize that maybe that stuff could actually account for the huge size ;) [07:00] thanks again [07:03] gspr: be aware that you can request more space if you really need it. just ask in a question via the Questions/Answers part of launchpad. [07:06] spm: Yeah, I know. I just thought I would make sure I wasn't keeping crap around before asking [07:07] gspr: now THAT's the attitude we like to see! :-D [07:08] I gotta run... If you have anything to do with the PPAs, spm, I'd like to thank you for a great service. The PPA system is brilliant :) [07:09] gspr: thanks, I'll pass that on to the developers! [09:57] morning folks. [09:57] I have a couple of newbie questions again. [09:57] my project is http://launchpad.net/openmolar [09:58] and last night, I successfully built my first deb! === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn [09:58] however, I am a crap coder, and I keep breaking the app. [09:59] so I have 2 questions. [09:59] 1. how to make a dev branch? [09:59] 2. how to use my ppa to automate the deb builds. [09:59] * rowinggolfer needs a mentor [10:03] Hi rowinggolfer :), congrats on creating your first deb! [10:03] I'm sure I'm a crap dentist too, so good thing I'm not working on your teeth ;) [10:04] Have you read the help instructions for PPAs yet? [10:06] https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA === deadoomik_ is now known as deadoomik [10:11] noodles I have, but am a little confused. [10:12] the PPA would be _my_ PPA, ? linked to my profile? [10:12] so independent of the project?? [10:13] rowinggolfer: that's correct. But you can also create a team for your development work, and then use the team's PPA. [10:14] a one man team? [10:14] rowinggolfer: yeah, it's not worth it unless you later get some other people helping... for now I'd just use your own PPA. [10:14] ok. [10:15] looking at the link you kindly provide, I seem to have ticked most of the boxes [10:15] Great work! [10:16] well the howtos are well written [10:16] but I am often a little nervous making the final steps [10:16] rowinggolfer: yeah, mrevell is pretty good with words ;) [10:18] Oh thanks -- if there's anything that needs changing in the guides then make sure to let me know or just file a bug against LP :) [10:19] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rowinggolfer/openmolar/trunk/files/head%3A/dist/ [10:19] mrevell: their is one typo is the python packaging page. [10:19] I will report that [10:19] ok...so I have a deb within that link.... [10:20] (which works.. but the program id useless without a suitable database) [10:20] so that's what needs to go into my ppa? [11:29] rowinggolfer: sorry, I lost my connection earlier, I had replied to your question, but it didn't get through: [11:29] rowinggolfer: yes, the deb source package is what you'll upload to your ppa, and the binary packages will be built from that. [11:29] rowinggolfer: but it's independent of your code... you upload it from your local machine (using dput - see Uploading section on the above help link) [11:29] (I could be wrong, but normally you wouldn't commit your deb source package as part of your source tree) [11:30] * noodles has been limited to web app development, and hasn't done much packaging. [11:31] mrevell: Can we please have more notice for future downtime? [11:32] Hi there wgrant -- do you have a recent down-time in mind? [11:32] mrevell: The one in a day or two. [11:33] wgrant: Aha, well there'll be virtually no down-time for this next roll-out :) [11:33] mrevell: Will it be read-only, or just really short? [11:34] wgrant: This will be the first roll-out for read-only. Hence I'm sending an email today detailing what's going to happen and how it'll be different. [11:34] wgrant: So, it's a limited service [11:34] but still available to get data out [11:34] and use the OpenID to get into other services [11:34] such as the Ubuntu wiki [11:34] noodles - thanks. [11:35] wgrant: I could send the notification on the Friday before the roll-out, though, as we still need to let people to know about read-only. [11:35] mrevell: I'm aware of the functionality and reasoning for the read-onlyness. But more than a couple of days of notice would be good, given that you probably know weeks before. [11:35] And some of us need to plan rollouts of our own, and it's not good to have LP down around that time. [11:37] wgrant: fair point. The full calendar, as we have it, is here -- https://dev.launchpad.net/Releases/2009Calendar [11:38] hey wgrant, what's your t-shirt size? [11:39] mrevell: From the UDS ones, L seems to have been best. [11:39] wgrant: message me your postal address and I'll get a Launchpad shirt in the mail for you. [11:39] wgrant: that's assuming you want one, heh [11:40] mrevell: Knowing the date helps, but sometimes LP will be down for several times longer than usual, or at a different time. You would hopefully know that more than two days before, except in exceptional circumstances. [11:40] mrevell: Thanks! [11:40] wgrant: Length of down-time isn't something we generally know until quite close to the date, hence one of the reasons for leaving the mail till later on. [11:41] mrevell: Hrm, OK... [11:46] mrevell: two mails perhaps :P [11:47] lifeless: Heh, it's an option but I bet most recipients would prefer not to have two emails :) I'll make it clearer in the next email that the release calendar is public and available for everyone. [12:00] hello, can anyone help me with importing an openpgp key to my launchpad account or did I stumble to the wrong place? [12:02] hey t0mppa [12:03] have you read https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey [12:03] an excellent how to I followed last week [12:03] if I can do it... anyone can! === savvas_ is now known as savvas [12:08] ah now I see it, was trying to use the uid instead of pub to send it and it refused to send === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:10] that settled it, thanks! [12:11] the import page was just talking about key-id and that was a bit confusing [12:11] t0mppa: direct your comments at mrevell-lunch - don't let him enjoy his free time ;) [12:13] i'm not that evil, problem was more of silly me not finding the help page really :) === nhandler is now known as Guest21024 === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [14:56] is launchpad on the fritz today on the sluggish side === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === beuno_ is now known as beuno === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara [19:56] weird in this bug, upstream status appears as "UPSTREAM CLOSED" and in LP is shows as "FIX RELEASED": [19:56] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/220825 [19:56] Ubuntu bug 220825 in virt-manager "SSH dialog for first remote connection to unknown server should not be a password field" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [21:06] Hey, I'm trying to push a release on launchpad for my project but I'm not sure I understand how this is done... anybody around that could help? [21:08] dtchen, sure [21:08] you want to upload a tarball? [21:08] or a branch? [21:15] dgt84, [21:15] sorry [21:15] misspinged [21:15] ^ [21:16] beuno, I have a branch in bzr that I tagged and created a tarball of. I'd like to upload the tarball if possible but I can't figure out where that can be done. I created a new series called 'stable' but there is nothing on the page about releases. === savvas_ is now known as savvas [21:19] dgt84, right, it's a bug in the UI that's being fixed [21:20] beuno, so what can I do to make a release? [21:21] beuno, seems I can do it on edge.launchpad.net, will try that [21:23] you need to create a milestone [21:23] and then you can create a release off of it [21:23] dgt84, create a milestone off the new series [21:23] and then a release off of that milestone [21:23] beuno, k === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [21:25] beuno, that all seems to work now, thakns a lot for you help! [21:25] dgt84, you're welcome [21:25] and sorry about the pain [21:25] we're making it awesome [21:25] just had to break things a bit :) [21:25] beuno, no worries, I'm pretty new to Launchpad but very impressed so far. === beuno_ is now known as beuno [22:38] cprov: shouldn't the source packages copied from jaunty to karmic which FTBFS get a new build attempt in karmic? === sale_ is now known as sale === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Marvin_