[13:19] <robsta> hi thorwil
[13:19] <thorwil> hi robsta
[13:20] <thorwil> how's things?
[13:21] <robsta> so so
[13:21] <thorwil> well, could be worse, then :)
[13:23] <thorwil> robsta, for the notebook, will we have just one set of states for all tabs, or could there be 3 sets for first tab, middle tabs, last tab?
[13:23] <robsta> we'll of course go for the real thing
[13:26] <thorwil> robsta, i guess for overlap-free slicing, there could also be a need for non-tab top-border images? or can we have variable overlap of tabs and body?
[13:26] <robsta> thorwil: please explain
[13:26] <robsta> i don't get what you mean
[13:27] <thorwil> robsta, say you want a dark outline around the notebook. all around, not crossing the tabs
[13:27] <robsta> evil!
[13:28] <thorwil> robsta, one could either solve that by drawing the body as one rectangle with outline, to then draw the tabs on top, with a little overlap to hide the body outline there
[13:29] <robsta> oh, you mean theming the notebook border's body?
[13:29] <thorwil> robsta, or you would need to have the body with open top, to then close it with tabs and a no-tab image
[13:29] <thorwil> yes
[13:29] <robsta> notebook is probably the hardest widget
[13:30] <robsta> the body is drawn as a rectangle wit a gap
[13:30] <robsta> but the gap is only as big as the currently active tab
[13:31] <robsta> i don't know if we can hack the inactive tabs to draw over the notebook's border
[13:31] <robsta> but i can try :)
[13:32] <thorwil> robsta, well, ideally it should be possible to create classic tabs or Mac style and whatever one might find between
[13:32] <robsta> what would that look like "classic tabs"?
[13:32] <thorwil> robsta, gtk standard
[13:33] <thorwil> clearlooks
[13:33] <robsta> oh
[13:33] <robsta> and mac style with centered tabs?
[13:34] <thorwil> robsta, centered and without a connection between the buttons and the "page"
[13:34] <robsta> that's impossible currently
[13:34] <robsta> (not a theming problem)
[13:34] <thorwil> guessed so
[13:34] <robsta> the theme doesn't determine the position of the tabs
[13:36] <thorwil> robsta, the gap for the active tab is just in the outline, where said outline can be a combination, several pixels wide?
[13:37] <robsta> thorwil: http://www.gnome.org/~robsta/gtk-css-engine/screenshots/08-rounded-bg.png
[13:38] <robsta> thorwil: look at the notebooks at the bottom, the body is drawn with "1px solid black"
[13:38] <robsta> "tab1" is active
[13:38] <thorwil> i see. so the outline is inside the body rect
[13:39] <thorwil> robsta, but you can 2 or even more 1px outlines?
[13:39] <thorwil> can have, even
[13:39] <robsta> thorwil: http://www.gnome.org/~robsta/gtk-css-engine/screenshots/09-rounded-bounded.png
[13:40] <robsta> like so?
[13:40] <thorwil> if they had different colors
[13:40] <robsta> the tab border and the body border?
[13:41] <thorwil> just talking about the body border
[13:41] <robsta> what should have different colors?
[13:43] <thorwil> robsta, in other words: can you draw 2 (or even more) outlines for the body? each with separate line fill
[13:43] <robsta> not easily
[13:43] <robsta> impossible is nothing
[13:44] <robsta> you can do it using border-image i guess
[13:44] <thorwil> robsta, that would be nice, if we could go with virtually the same approach as on buttons
[13:45] <robsta> thorwil: that should work, just the gap might need some special treatment
[13:55] <robsta> thorwil: best you draw it up, then we look at how to implement it
[13:56] <thorwil> robsta, ok
[14:04]  * thorwil -> coffee
[16:41]  * thorwil wonders how dozens of mailing list messages made it into the Junk folder
[17:13] <SiDi> thorwil: i didnt submit any artwork tho :( shouldnt have gone junk (
[17:13] <thorwil> heh