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seb128you can raise the topic upstream yes00:00
kklimondaor at least menu editor should ignore .desktop files which ends with '-mime'..00:00
seb128I've other issues higher on my todolist than cleaning masked desktop because some users try to edit menus and get confused00:00
hggdhheh00:00
BUGabundohehe00:00
kklimondasure00:00
hggdhit is now invalid00:02
seb128you could probably define an extra Type= value for mimetypes in the spec00:02
seb128and then teach menu editor to ignore those00:02
seb128but that's a discussion for the xdg-list00:02
BUGabundolets open a blueprint or taskbug for KK00:02
seb128no00:02
BUGabundoand let upstream know about it00:02
BUGabundoseb128: no?00:02
seb128let whoever is interested by that discuss it on xdg-list00:03
seb128we have enough bugs that are not bugs and that nobody will work on already00:03
hggdhseb128, you have the link?00:03
seb128to what?00:03
hggdhxdg-list00:03
kklimondahggdh: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg00:03
seb128xdg@lists.freedesktop.org00:03
hggdhthanks to both. I will update the bug00:04
BUGabundohggdh: keep us posted00:04
* BUGabundo also subs to bug00:04
seb128thanks00:04
seb128there is quite some variants of this bugs00:04
seb128especially bugs about duplicates softwares being listed in the "open with" nautilus dialog00:05
seb128which are in fact mimetype handlers00:05
hggdhthe bug has been updated with all of this. Thanks seb128, for the input00:06
BUGabundokklimonda: way OT but http://syntaxhighlighted.com/ is 40400:06
seb128hggdh: thank you for the bug triage work00:07
kklimondaBUGabundo: I know - It is on my todo list to make a placeholder ;D00:07
seb128hggdh: I've uploaded evolution-exchange btw00:07
seb128hggdh: it's waiting for ubuntu-sru review now00:07
hggdhthanks, seb12800:07
BUGabundoseb128: now that you mention it, I demo installed 7zip, and couldn't get it to appear on the Open With list00:07
BUGabundoknown bug?00:08
seb128BUGabundo: the open with list only list graphical applications00:08
seb128BUGabundo: ie things shipping a .desktop entry00:08
BUGabundoisn't 7zip gui?00:08
BUGabundoor better, doesn't it have one?00:08
hggdhhum. But couldn't it run under terminal?00:08
seb128Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1)00:09
seb128I doubt it's a graphical software00:09
seb128if you are speaking about p7zip00:10
BUGabundoahhh guess I installed the wrong one00:10
seb128file-roller is the GNOME GUI for that00:10
BUGabundoI was just doing a showcase demo, and used the 1st one I found on Add/Remove00:10
BUGabundonext time will take care00:10
BUGabundoseb128: I use fileroller, but the user (a windows one) knew 7zip, and asked to install it00:11
seb128ah ok00:11
seb128that's a command line under linux00:11
BUGabundonice to know that's where I failed00:12
BUGabundonow feel free to get back to work ;)00:12
hggdh:-) it is always nice to learn something new00:12
seb128I'm rather going to bed now00:12
seb128'night everybody see you tomorrow00:12
hggdhnight seb12800:13
BUGabundoseb128: good night00:13
BUGabundoI'll be hitting the sack soon too... to tired today00:13
hggdhg´ night, BUGabundo, nice dreams00:15
BUGabundohggdh: not yet! lol00:15
BUGabundostill catching up feeds and mail, after of almost 3 days absent00:15
kklimondaBUGabundo: heh - I just mark all rss feeds a read after I'm away for few days ;)00:18
hggdh+100:19
BUGabundoI almost never do that00:19
BUGabundobut I have a special metatag caller NVLEN, portuguese for "I won't ever read those"00:19
BUGabundoafter I've read most everything else, I mark those as read00:19
BUGabundoLOL00:19
hggdhNVLEN? Não Vou Ler -- what?00:20
BUGabundoNao Vou Ler e Nao00:21
BUGabundoLOLOLOLOL00:21
hggdhLOL00:21
BUGabundoI just collect a lot of stuff on GReader00:21
BUGabundostuff like ubuntu forums00:21
BUGabundobut I can't read 300+ new posts per day00:21
BUGabundoso I just check the last 5 min topics00:21
BUGabundoand leave the rest for the search engine00:22
hggdhyes...00:22
kklimondaBUGabundo: heh - I'm trying to keep my rss list under control.00:23
kklimondaI try* ;/00:23
kklimondaoh well.00:23
BUGabundokklimonda: I do keep it in control00:24
BUGabundoI make metatags00:24
BUGabundoa FAB (must read daily), a FAB2 (stuff I must read, just not ASAP)00:25
BUGabundoand NF (old tag, for NoForums, but today means pretty much everything else not on FAB*, NVLEN, and Planets)00:25
showardHi - I have a newbie question: a package has an easily fixable bug that already has been fixed in a later version. Ubuntu has the old version of the package. At this point of the development cycle do you a) patch the version ubuntu has, b) package the new version for ubuntu, or c) both? Thank you00:47
kklimondashoward: a)00:47
kklimondashoward: and only if a bug is important00:48
kklimonda(e.g. a regression from previous release or an application doesn't work at all)00:48
* BUGabundo makes a private joke with kklimonda about _current cycle_ being kk00:48
kklimonda;)00:48
showardAh ok, I was thinking that any bugs fixed now went into unstable00:49
kklimondashoward: that is another case - untill FeatureFreeze packages are just being updated00:49
BUGabundoshoward: yeah it's the general idea00:49
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kklimondashoward: merged with debian unstable in most cases.00:50
showardgreat, thanks00:50
bdmurraybug 36687701:50
ubot4Launchpad bug 366877 in debian-installer "mexamafia" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36687701:50
bdmurraywhat's that about?01:51
Ampelbeinbdmurray: "puto" = "bloody" or "fucking" as in "bloody debian installer doesn't work right"01:52
bdmurraystill not very helpful though01:53
Ampelbeinright01:54
hggdhliteral translation would be prostitute, male persuasion01:57
hggdhI propose to simply warn him of CoC, and indalidate it01:58
bdmurrayworks for me01:58
Jeruvywhat is the process of rejecting a question?  Does the poster get a chance to repost?01:59
hggdhwell. Can also mean 'child', 'boy', in Portugal01:59
BUGabundohggdh: not in this context01:59
hggdhBUGabundo, I agree, that's why I gave the first one01:59
BUGabundoeven if was PT-pt with would be a serious insult01:59
hggdhbut, for the sake of completeness...01:59
BUGabundosound spanish to me01:59
hggdhsame meaning in Spanish02:00
BUGabundoI would go with slang.. son of a b....02:00
hggdhyes02:00
BUGabundojust frustrated or testing LP, and not using stagging02:01
BUGabundofor me, just CoC'ed him and invalidate it after 24h, if no reply02:01
hggdhI CoC-ed him, and also invalidated it. If he/she wants to enter a good bug, it can be done again, nicely.02:04
hggdhJeruvy, what exactly is the case?02:05
Jeruvyhggdh: well I saw a post in answers relating to a 'backdoor' in vista which didn't seem very relevent, but I wasn't sure if 'rejecting it' was the right course of action, so I thought I ask what is the case?02:08
hggdhJeruvy, you can warn not to deal with it here, but we cannot close it. Do you have the link?02:09
hggdhcannot == do not have the authority/capability02:09
Jeruvyhggdh: gotcha, let me find it02:09
Jeruvyhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6890402:10
greg-gI don't think they are using the word "backdoor" in an illegal/bad way02:12
hggdhJeruvy, if I understand it correctly (not sure) it is not a backdoor02:12
hggdhgreg-g, +102:12
greg-g:)02:12
Jeruvygreg-g: no, but still it did not seem relevent02:13
hggdhit is actually a, er, gateway wubi <-> vista the poster is referring to02:13
hggdhI think it can be considered a valid question, albeit a bit on the extreme02:13
Jeruvyhggdh: a package?02:13
greg-gJeruvy: sure, but posters many time put non-relevant information into their bugs/questions, it is our job to sift through it :)02:14
greg-gs/time/times/02:14
hggdhJeruvy, maybe, or something simliar. I am not familiar with wubi (don't have a windows-based box here)02:14
Jeruvyhggdh: I am, so if someone could enlighten me that would be supreme :)02:15
hggdhheh. I respectfully pass ;-)02:15
Jeruvy:)02:15
BUGabundolet me read it02:16
hggdhbut, for sure, the first response is a bit aggressive02:16
Jeruvybut...for my questions sake...lets just say I was to 'reject it'.  What would happen?02:16
Jeruvy'cause I too am not sure whether that is a good course of action or not.  Hence I'm asking.02:17
hggdhyou cannot --we cannot reject a question. All we can do is ask not to do it, eventually ask for help from the LP folks to block the user02:17
Jeruvyhggdh: done02:18
hggdhhuh, Jeruvy, when doing something like that, please also explain why. Please... be nice ;-)02:19
JeruvyI was trying :)02:19
BUGabundoafter reading it, seem like a valid question02:19
BUGabundothe users just wants to access his windows files02:19
hggdhand interface the FSs02:19
hggdhyes, I agree02:20
hggdh(FWIW)02:20
JeruvyI was asking here to see, but I still don't see.  Sorry for the trouble.02:20
BUGabundofrom what I recall, last time I used Wubi, the Wind FS should be accessble via the Nautilus mount points02:20
hggdhJeruvy, the user seems to want to know how to download files under wubi, and pass them on to Vista02:20
hggdha valid usage (weird, but still valid)02:21
BUGabundowhy weird?02:21
Jeruvyso what happens now?02:22
BUGabundoany user should be able to write to other OSs FSs02:22
BUGabundoas long he has driver for it02:22
hggdhyou can download under windows -- there are lots of programmes to do that02:22
BUGabundoand we do have NTFS-3g02:22
BUGabundoI've see users download stuff over ubuntu, and then copy to wind, because of virus02:23
hggdhah02:23
hggdhand to think I have also been a MSCE...02:24
Jeruvywon't stop the virus in many cases.  But I wasn't concerned about that :)02:24
BUGabundohggdh: ehehehe02:25
BUGabundobed time for me! [[]] and kisses everyone02:34
Ryan52should ubuntu bugs be marked "fix released" when a package with the fix is available in somebodies PPA or when the package is actually uploaded to Ubuntu?02:54
Ryan52sorry for the dumb question, but I want to get this email sent before I leave (in a few minutes), and want to make sure that I'm right before incorrectly correcting somebody. :)02:56
maxbFix Released is only for when the fix is actually in Ubuntu itself02:57
maxbusually this should be accomplished by the bug number being in the changelog entry - and then the bug will be automatically set to "Fix Released" by the upload02:58
Ryan52ok, good. thanks for confirming what I thought.02:58
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dholbachgood morning07:20
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BUGabundoguud morning09:00
YoBoYhi09:09
BUGabundoYoBoY: hi! nice to see you09:13
stesindhopefully ubuntu will soon release firefox 3.0.1009:14
YoBoYnice to see you too BUGabundo :)09:14
BUGabundostesind: i'm sure the ubuntu-mozillateam is working on it!09:26
stesindit is quite annoying because ff crashes a few times a day09:27
BUGabundostesind: why dont u try FF 3.5 ?09:28
BUGabundoHew: welcome09:28
stesindit is just beta09:28
BUGabundoso what?09:28
stesindand on a productive system09:28
Hewhi BUGabundo09:28
BUGabundoi use 3.6 from daily PPA every day09:29
BUGabundostesind: its not common the day i have a FF crash09:29
BUGabundothen again, i'm an alpha tester.... soo....09:29
stesindi have some pluginst like firebug09:30
stesindthey cause the crashes because of bugfixes in 3.0.909:30
BUGabundoi run most of my addons without any trouble09:30
stesindmaybe I give it a try09:30
BUGabundonightly tools does wonders09:31
BUGabundostesind: if that happens persistently and is able to be reproduced, then file a bug09:31
BUGabundoon either launchpad or the addon BTS09:31
stesindit is already known an the fix is in 3.0.1009:32
stesindit just released bug not available via ubuntu repositories09:32
stesindbut I ment09:32
BUGabundoah then u should use the team PPA09:33
BUGabundoor even daily PPA report back on #ubuntu-mozillateam channel09:33
BUGabundoor comment on the bug09:33
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IntellectHi. It seems that I have discovered some kind of bug in nautilus-usershare. What should i do?11:37
BUGabundoIntellect: run $ ubuntu-bug nautilus-usershare11:39
BUGabundoalso helps if it is reproducable by another user11:39
Baumhi. its the first time i have submitted a bug in ubuntu. how long will it take before someone looks at it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-mount/+bug/36791811:53
ubot4`Launchpad bug 367918 in libpam-mount "sshd cannot mount cifs shares" [Undecided,New]11:53
Baumok11:53
Baum;)11:53
Baumwith the ubuntu-bug tool the bugs are also submitted to launchpad so i guess i was right yesterday...11:54
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apwthe ubuntu-kernel-team is having a bug day today ... if you have any experience in kernel-triage and would like to help out looking over our backlog please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/BugDay/20090428 which points to the list of bugs we are attacking (see the community section for unclaimed ones!).  we are lurking over on #ubuntu-kernel as always12:28
emil_sHello everybody! Something seems strange in this report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/33619012:45
ubot4`Launchpad bug 336190 in knetworkmanager "Wireless network are hidden by the bar" [Unknown,Confirmed]12:45
emil_sThe problem in right, i can confirm it, but the upstream seems te be wrong: Knetworkmanager nederlandse vertaling (Dutch translation)12:46
emil_sAnd "knetworkmanager" is also the old KDE3/QT3. The correct upstream can be found here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18831812:50
ubot4`KDE bug 188318 in Network Management Plasma Widget "Increasing the number of shown wireless networks makes them overlap VPN connections" [Normal,New]12:50
aaronphi all13:10
darizzlehey13:10
aaronpi'm not here for long tonight, just wanted to pop in and say g'day to everyone. i've decided i'm going to start helping out with bugs13:11
kklimondagreat, I've lost sound.. -.-13:14
kklimonda"E: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM device hw:0: No such file or directory" - that's new..13:15
aaronpcya next time guys ;-)13:17
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hggdhBaum, it depends on who is available to look at it16:00
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stesind1hi17:00
stesind1I need to install my canon printer ip400017:00
charlie-tcastesind1: better to ask in #ubuntu for help with that17:01
BUGabundostesind1: support for ubuntu is on #ubuntu channel17:01
BUGabundonot here17:01
* BUGabundo still has faster fingers ;)17:01
stesind1I plug it in usb, and the printer setup dialogue appears, it finds the gutenberg driver17:01
stesind1and authentication fails17:01
stesind1root needs passwort on localhost17:02
* charlie-tca got the answer out first, though17:03
charlie-tcastesind1: still need to ask in #ubuntu17:03
stesind1does anyone installed a usb printer17:03
BUGabundooh no you dintnt charlie-tca17:04
BUGabundostesind1: please, refer to a few lines above17:04
BUGabundostesind1: support for ubuntu is on #ubuntu channel, no in here!17:04
stesind1what is this about17:04
stesind1ß17:04
stesind1ok17:04
bddebianBoo17:05
charlie-tcaThis is used by the ubuntu-bugsquad for discussing specific bugs already filed17:05
stperecharlie-tca: too late :-\17:05
BUGabundofoo17:05
charlie-tcaYeah, my fingers are faster than my eyes17:05
BUGabundoahahaah17:05
hggdhand myu fongersa arew as goodf ax mye eyeyes17:07
BUGabundome too hggdh  eyes suck even after laser surgery17:08
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charlie-tcaI think I qualify for laser surgery now.17:19
charlie-tcacan they do it with +4 stygmatism?17:19
davideotapeI wouldn't take the chance if I was you...17:20
BUGabundoyep17:20
calccharlie-tca: i think so17:20
BUGabundoup until 5 or 717:20
charlie-tcaBeen waiting years already17:20
* calc is around -6.5 with astigmatism17:20
BUGabundoi got from 2.75 to .2517:20
* calc doesn't trust people cutting on his eyes :-\17:20
BUGabundobut got worse again in this two last years!17:21
charlie-tcathat's enough to make me wait17:21
calcBUGabundo: were you stablized before you had the surgery?17:21
BUGabundocalc: believe me it was a terrible experience to be there lying while u watch....gtrrr17:21
calci've had the same presecription for the past 10-15 years i think, so i should be stablized17:21
BUGabundocalc: i was17:21
BUGabundoi had the same for 4 years17:21
calcoh17:22
charlie-tcaI can't stay stable for 2 years.17:22
calccharlie-tca: if your vision hasn't been stable at least for several years don't even think about getting surgery17:23
* charlie-tca thinks the cataracts are not helping17:23
calccharlie-tca: oh then just get lens replacement or whatever it is they do for that... it often fixes vision as well17:23
charlie-tcaThey won't do it until the cataract is completely covering the eye17:23
hggdhyes17:23
BUGabundocharlie-tca: no they dont17:23
calcmy grandmother had to have cataract surgery and after that she no longer needed vision correction in that eye17:23
hggdhcharlie-tca, under US health insurance?17:24
charlie-tcaI have heard that.17:24
charlie-tcayes, hggdh17:24
hggdhthat's why17:24
charlie-tcaretired military17:24
hggdhwouldn't the vet do it?17:24
charlie-tcano17:25
charlie-tcanot until they are complete17:25
hggdhthat's ridiculous, and stupid: you have to get blind to qualify :-(17:26
charlie-tcaI know. I kinda yelled that, too17:28
hggdhah well. sic tempora gloria mundi, and etc17:28
josephpicheI have a question about policy: I ran into bug 368425. I would like to set it as wishlist importance, but I don't have access to do that, should I give it a "wishlist" tag?18:21
ubot4`Launchpad bug 368425 in sysvinit "fsck should run on shutdown, not startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36842518:21
james_wasking in here is best18:22
james_wI've set it for you now18:22
james_wit's something that would span more than one package I bet though18:23
hggdhyes, I would expect so18:24
bdmurrayI thought there was discussion about that once before18:24
hggdh*some* discussions, if I remember correctly18:24
sbeattieI thought so, too.18:24
josephpichek, thanks18:24
sbeattiehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/prompt-for-fsck-on-shutdown18:25
josephpichejust out of curiosity, who is able to change that?18:25
sbeattieDiscussion thread based on the technical review starts here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-August/026028.html18:26
greg-gjosephpiche: members of the Bug Control team in Launchpad18:27
ballI filed my first bug today.18:31
josephpichegreg-g: thanks18:31
ball...need to figure out how to find bugs I can fix (or at least confirm) though.18:31
hggdhball, list them on launchpad, and then cherry-pick18:33
hggdh(or stay with only a few packages)18:33
ballOooh, is it a bug if Firefox can't be uninstalled?18:34
hggdhball, it *might* be. What is the bug #?18:37
ballhggdh: I haven't filed that one yet18:39
hggdhball, it depends on what happened. If you got an error in dpkg/synaptic/apt, then it is probably a bug18:39
ballhggdh: hang on, let me close Firefox and I'll try it.18:41
ballyep.  sudo apt-get remove firefox /appears/ to work, but then firefox still launches18:42
hggdhball, try running 'dpkg -l firefox\*' and then pastebin the result here18:43
hggdh!pastebin18:43
ubot4`pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)18:43
ballhttp://www.pastebin.ca/140635618:47
ballHave to go, the tree people are here18:47
bdmurraypedro_: I've tried recreating bug 187136 in Jaunty and it works fine for the mpg I mentioned and a mkv file.  Should I set it to Fix Released?20:02
ubot4`Launchpad bug 187136 in totem "gnome-video-thumbnailer unable to process file" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/18713620:02
pedro_bdmurray: yes, please do so20:04
bdmurraypedro_: Did you see I'd moved some compiz crashes to the driver package?20:13
pedro_bdmurray: yeap, thanks20:15
pedro_bdmurray: most of the crashes there are coming from libGLcore.so.120:16
bdmurraypedro_: right, so that is a driver issue according to bryce20:16
pedro_same with some of the gnome-screensaver20:16
bdmurrayoh, that's a good one to check too20:16
hollmanbug #bug35939220:53
hollmanbug #35939220:53
ubot4`Launchpad bug 359392 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] X freezes starting on April 3rd" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35939220:53
hollmanbug 36842520:54
ubot4`Launchpad bug 368425 in sysvinit "fsck should run on shutdown, not startup" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36842520:54
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kklimondahow can i display list of bugs recently posted?21:49
bdmurrayin the advanced search there is a most recent bugs option I think21:50
bdmurrayer, newest first21:50
Elbrusand recently: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bugnumbers/bugs-since-jaunty.html21:51
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BUGabundoguud evening22:13
hacktickboa noite BUGabundo22:14
BUGabundohacktick: ola22:14
hacktickcomemorou a festa do lançamento de jaunty?22:15
BUGabundoclaro22:15
hackticktivemos mais de 200 pessoas aqui em Berlim, foi massa22:16
BUGabundoporreiro22:17
hggdhbdmurray, ping?23:03
bdmurrayhggdh: yep23:04
hggdhbdmurray, please have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/6898623:05
hggdhI wrote my request, but the more I think about it, the more I consider it a valid point23:06
bdmurrayhggdh: What do you mean exactly?23:07
hggdhI did not want to go ahead and open it upstream without the user's agreeing, but I think it is worth it23:08
bdmurrayI don't think there is any harm in opening it upstream.  I don't think it is invasive.23:09
hggdhthanks23:09
BUGabundodoes any know of any new bug for JJ about wifi intel 2100 not working?23:11
kklimondanothing on LP?23:12
BUGabundoI'm having the user searching23:14
hggdhwhat is JJ?23:16
ElbrusI greated an debdiff for a merge for winff (I maintain that in Debian). Can somebody set that to whishlist? bug 36889823:16
ubot4`Launchpad bug 368898 in winff "Please merge winff1.0.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36889823:16
BUGabundobug 29186823:16
ubot4`Launchpad bug 291868 in libchipcard "i can't enabel my wireless :( (dup-of: 283925)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29186823:16
ubot4`Launchpad bug 283925 in libchipcard "package libchipcard-tools 4.1.3-2 failed to configure: il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28392523:16
BUGabundohggdh: jj = jaunty jackalope23:17
hggdhduh ;-(23:17
BUGabundoLOL23:17
BUGabundokk23:17
hggdhElbrus, you can subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Special%20types%20of%20bugs). The bug should not be set to wishlist23:23
hggdhElbrus, thank you. A workflow bug is not dealt by with us, but by the appropriate teams23:26
askandHi, about the (propably tśoon to be famous) freezebug(s) in Jaunty that completly locks up computers regardless of what videocard is being used23:29
askandhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113505523:29
askandHow would one debug such a freeze?23:29
hggdhaskand, better ask in #ubuntu-x23:35
kklimondaaskand: it looks like something new to me. do you have a bug number for this issue?23:35
askandkklimonda: the only bug I know about is bug 36452423:36
ubot4`Launchpad bug 364524 in ubuntu "Lockup when using strace" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36452423:36
askandthere is possibly more floating around since judging from the thread there are some people experiencing this23:37
BUGabundoahh that bug23:38
BUGabundoI won't test it again23:38
BUGabundoLOL23:38
BUGabundolast time I got my audio out of syn23:38
BUGabundo*sync23:38
BUGabundobut yeah I confirm it, strace makes PC go slow, without any load noticible23:39
askandYes, however I dont know if it is related to the freezes people is having23:40
* BUGabundo backsup slowlly23:42
hggdhaskand, there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging23:47
askandhggdh: yes that is mentioned in the thread but they say it is not an X freeze23:47
hggdhaskand, for that bug you would probably need two machines: one doing the strace (and getting locked up), and another ssh-ing in the first to investigate23:49
darizzlehow long have you guys been helping with ubuntu qa?23:51
hggdhdarizzle, varies per person... I have been around for the last two years and few23:53
darizzlei have a question23:54
darizzlei want to get started23:54
darizzlei have read all of the bugsquad documentation23:54
darizzleexisting on ubuntu.com and the related subdomains23:55
darizzlebut am anxious about how to start23:55
darizzlebecause i know the complexity of the process23:55
darizzlei don't want to step on feet, misidentify, or mishandle23:55
darizzleis there a time where someone could walk me through a triage23:55
darizzleor even selection for triage23:55
hggdheasy: pick *any* bug that you feel confortable (or less unconfortable) and try to work it out23:56
hggdhand then ask here if you have doubts23:56
BUGabundodarizzle: calm down, dude, you seem to be on steroids!23:58
BUGabundothere enough bugs for all your life time and go around a couple more times23:58
hggdhdarizzle, there will be some sessions on bug triaging on the OpenWeek. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek23:59

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