[00:00] <seb128> you can raise the topic upstream yes
[00:00] <kklimonda> or at least menu editor should ignore .desktop files which ends with '-mime'..
[00:00] <seb128> I've other issues higher on my todolist than cleaning masked desktop because some users try to edit menus and get confused
[00:00] <hggdh> heh
[00:00] <BUGabundo> hehe
[00:00] <kklimonda> sure
[00:02] <hggdh> it is now invalid
[00:02] <seb128> you could probably define an extra Type= value for mimetypes in the spec
[00:02] <seb128> and then teach menu editor to ignore those
[00:02] <seb128> but that's a discussion for the xdg-list
[00:02] <BUGabundo> lets open a blueprint or taskbug for KK
[00:02] <seb128> no
[00:02] <BUGabundo> and let upstream know about it
[00:02] <BUGabundo> seb128: no?
[00:03] <seb128> let whoever is interested by that discuss it on xdg-list
[00:03] <seb128> we have enough bugs that are not bugs and that nobody will work on already
[00:03] <hggdh> seb128, you have the link?
[00:03] <seb128> to what?
[00:03] <hggdh> xdg-list
[00:03] <kklimonda> hggdh: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xdg
[00:03] <seb128> xdg@lists.freedesktop.org
[00:04] <hggdh> thanks to both. I will update the bug
[00:04] <BUGabundo> hggdh: keep us posted
[00:04]  * BUGabundo also subs to bug
[00:04] <seb128> thanks
[00:04] <seb128> there is quite some variants of this bugs
[00:05] <seb128> especially bugs about duplicates softwares being listed in the "open with" nautilus dialog
[00:05] <seb128> which are in fact mimetype handlers
[00:06] <hggdh> the bug has been updated with all of this. Thanks seb128, for the input
[00:06] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: way OT but http://syntaxhighlighted.com/ is 404
[00:07] <seb128> hggdh: thank you for the bug triage work
[00:07] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: I know - It is on my todo list to make a placeholder ;D
[00:07] <seb128> hggdh: I've uploaded evolution-exchange btw
[00:07] <seb128> hggdh: it's waiting for ubuntu-sru review now
[00:07] <hggdh> thanks, seb128
[00:07] <BUGabundo> seb128: now that you mention it, I demo installed 7zip, and couldn't get it to appear on the Open With list
[00:08] <BUGabundo> known bug?
[00:08] <seb128> BUGabundo: the open with list only list graphical applications
[00:08] <seb128> BUGabundo: ie things shipping a .desktop entry
[00:08] <BUGabundo> isn't 7zip gui?
[00:08] <BUGabundo> or better, doesn't it have one?
[00:08] <hggdh> hum. But couldn't it run under terminal?
[00:09] <seb128> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1)
[00:09] <seb128> I doubt it's a graphical software
[00:10] <seb128> if you are speaking about p7zip
[00:10] <BUGabundo> ahhh guess I installed the wrong one
[00:10] <seb128> file-roller is the GNOME GUI for that
[00:10] <BUGabundo> I was just doing a showcase demo, and used the 1st one I found on Add/Remove
[00:10] <BUGabundo> next time will take care
[00:11] <BUGabundo> seb128: I use fileroller, but the user (a windows one) knew 7zip, and asked to install it
[00:11] <seb128> ah ok
[00:11] <seb128> that's a command line under linux
[00:12] <BUGabundo> nice to know that's where I failed
[00:12] <BUGabundo> now feel free to get back to work ;)
[00:12] <hggdh> :-) it is always nice to learn something new
[00:12] <seb128> I'm rather going to bed now
[00:12] <seb128> 'night everybody see you tomorrow
[00:13] <hggdh> night seb128
[00:13] <BUGabundo> seb128: good night
[00:13] <BUGabundo> I'll be hitting the sack soon too... to tired today
[00:15] <hggdh> g´ night, BUGabundo, nice dreams
[00:15] <BUGabundo> hggdh: not yet! lol
[00:15] <BUGabundo> still catching up feeds and mail, after of almost 3 days absent
[00:18] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: heh - I just mark all rss feeds a read after I'm away for few days ;)
[00:19] <hggdh> +1
[00:19] <BUGabundo> I almost never do that
[00:19] <BUGabundo> but I have a special metatag caller NVLEN, portuguese for "I won't ever read those"
[00:19] <BUGabundo> after I've read most everything else, I mark those as read
[00:19] <BUGabundo> LOL
[00:20] <hggdh> NVLEN? Não Vou Ler -- what?
[00:21] <BUGabundo> Nao Vou Ler e Nao
[00:21] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOL
[00:21] <hggdh> LOL
[00:21] <BUGabundo> I just collect a lot of stuff on GReader
[00:21] <BUGabundo> stuff like ubuntu forums
[00:21] <BUGabundo> but I can't read 300+ new posts per day
[00:21] <BUGabundo> so I just check the last 5 min topics
[00:22] <BUGabundo> and leave the rest for the search engine
[00:22] <hggdh> yes...
[00:23] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: heh - I'm trying to keep my rss list under control.
[00:23] <kklimonda> I try* ;/
[00:23] <kklimonda> oh well.
[00:24] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: I do keep it in control
[00:24] <BUGabundo> I make metatags
[00:25] <BUGabundo> a FAB (must read daily), a FAB2 (stuff I must read, just not ASAP)
[00:25] <BUGabundo> and NF (old tag, for NoForums, but today means pretty much everything else not on FAB*, NVLEN, and Planets)
[00:47] <showard> Hi - I have a newbie question: a package has an easily fixable bug that already has been fixed in a later version. Ubuntu has the old version of the package. At this point of the development cycle do you a) patch the version ubuntu has, b) package the new version for ubuntu, or c) both? Thank you
[00:47] <kklimonda> showard: a)
[00:48] <kklimonda> showard: and only if a bug is important
[00:48] <kklimonda> (e.g. a regression from previous release or an application doesn't work at all)
[00:48]  * BUGabundo makes a private joke with kklimonda about _current cycle_ being kk
[00:48] <kklimonda> ;)
[00:49] <showard> Ah ok, I was thinking that any bugs fixed now went into unstable
[00:49] <kklimonda> showard: that is another case - untill FeatureFreeze packages are just being updated
[00:49] <BUGabundo> showard: yeah it's the general idea
[00:50] <kklimonda> showard: merged with debian unstable in most cases.
[00:50] <showard> great, thanks
[01:50] <bdmurray> bug 366877
[01:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 366877 in debian-installer "mexamafia" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366877
[01:51] <bdmurray> what's that about?
[01:52] <Ampelbein> bdmurray: "puto" = "bloody" or "fucking" as in "bloody debian installer doesn't work right"
[01:53] <bdmurray> still not very helpful though
[01:54] <Ampelbein> right
[01:57] <hggdh> literal translation would be prostitute, male persuasion
[01:58] <hggdh> I propose to simply warn him of CoC, and indalidate it
[01:58] <bdmurray> works for me
[01:59] <Jeruvy> what is the process of rejecting a question?  Does the poster get a chance to repost?
[01:59] <hggdh> well. Can also mean 'child', 'boy', in Portugal
[01:59] <BUGabundo> hggdh: not in this context
[01:59] <hggdh> BUGabundo, I agree, that's why I gave the first one
[01:59] <BUGabundo> even if was PT-pt with would be a serious insult
[01:59] <hggdh> but, for the sake of completeness...
[01:59] <BUGabundo> sound spanish to me
[02:00] <hggdh> same meaning in Spanish
[02:00] <BUGabundo> I would go with slang.. son of a b....
[02:00] <hggdh> yes
[02:01] <BUGabundo> just frustrated or testing LP, and not using stagging
[02:01] <BUGabundo> for me, just CoC'ed him and invalidate it after 24h, if no reply
[02:04] <hggdh> I CoC-ed him, and also invalidated it. If he/she wants to enter a good bug, it can be done again, nicely.
[02:05] <hggdh> Jeruvy, what exactly is the case?
[02:08] <Jeruvy> hggdh: well I saw a post in answers relating to a 'backdoor' in vista which didn't seem very relevent, but I wasn't sure if 'rejecting it' was the right course of action, so I thought I ask what is the case?
[02:09] <hggdh> Jeruvy, you can warn not to deal with it here, but we cannot close it. Do you have the link?
[02:09] <hggdh> cannot == do not have the authority/capability
[02:09] <Jeruvy> hggdh: gotcha, let me find it
[02:10] <Jeruvy> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/68904
[02:12] <greg-g> I don't think they are using the word "backdoor" in an illegal/bad way
[02:12] <hggdh> Jeruvy, if I understand it correctly (not sure) it is not a backdoor
[02:12] <hggdh> greg-g, +1
[02:12] <greg-g> :)
[02:13] <Jeruvy> greg-g: no, but still it did not seem relevent
[02:13] <hggdh> it is actually a, er, gateway wubi <-> vista the poster is referring to
[02:13] <hggdh> I think it can be considered a valid question, albeit a bit on the extreme
[02:13] <Jeruvy> hggdh: a package?
[02:14] <greg-g> Jeruvy: sure, but posters many time put non-relevant information into their bugs/questions, it is our job to sift through it :)
[02:14] <greg-g> s/time/times/
[02:14] <hggdh> Jeruvy, maybe, or something simliar. I am not familiar with wubi (don't have a windows-based box here)
[02:15] <Jeruvy> hggdh: I am, so if someone could enlighten me that would be supreme :)
[02:15] <hggdh> heh. I respectfully pass ;-)
[02:15] <Jeruvy> :)
[02:16] <BUGabundo> let me read it
[02:16] <hggdh> but, for sure, the first response is a bit aggressive
[02:16] <Jeruvy> but...for my questions sake...lets just say I was to 'reject it'.  What would happen?
[02:17] <Jeruvy> 'cause I too am not sure whether that is a good course of action or not.  Hence I'm asking.
[02:17] <hggdh> you cannot --we cannot reject a question. All we can do is ask not to do it, eventually ask for help from the LP folks to block the user
[02:18] <Jeruvy> hggdh: done
[02:19] <hggdh> huh, Jeruvy, when doing something like that, please also explain why. Please... be nice ;-)
[02:19] <Jeruvy> I was trying :)
[02:19] <BUGabundo> after reading it, seem like a valid question
[02:19] <BUGabundo> the users just wants to access his windows files
[02:19] <hggdh> and interface the FSs
[02:20] <hggdh> yes, I agree
[02:20] <hggdh> (FWIW)
[02:20] <Jeruvy> I was asking here to see, but I still don't see.  Sorry for the trouble.
[02:20] <BUGabundo> from what I recall, last time I used Wubi, the Wind FS should be accessble via the Nautilus mount points
[02:20] <hggdh> Jeruvy, the user seems to want to know how to download files under wubi, and pass them on to Vista
[02:21] <hggdh> a valid usage (weird, but still valid)
[02:21] <BUGabundo> why weird?
[02:22] <Jeruvy> so what happens now?
[02:22] <BUGabundo> any user should be able to write to other OSs FSs
[02:22] <BUGabundo> as long he has driver for it
[02:22] <hggdh> you can download under windows -- there are lots of programmes to do that
[02:22] <BUGabundo> and we do have NTFS-3g
[02:23] <BUGabundo> I've see users download stuff over ubuntu, and then copy to wind, because of virus
[02:23] <hggdh> ah
[02:24] <hggdh> and to think I have also been a MSCE...
[02:24] <Jeruvy> won't stop the virus in many cases.  But I wasn't concerned about that :)
[02:25] <BUGabundo> hggdh: ehehehe
[02:34] <BUGabundo> bed time for me! [[]] and kisses everyone
[02:54] <Ryan52> should ubuntu bugs be marked "fix released" when a package with the fix is available in somebodies PPA or when the package is actually uploaded to Ubuntu?
[02:56] <Ryan52> sorry for the dumb question, but I want to get this email sent before I leave (in a few minutes), and want to make sure that I'm right before incorrectly correcting somebody. :)
[02:57] <maxb> Fix Released is only for when the fix is actually in Ubuntu itself
[02:58] <maxb> usually this should be accomplished by the bug number being in the changelog entry - and then the bug will be automatically set to "Fix Released" by the upload
[02:58] <Ryan52> ok, good. thanks for confirming what I thought.
[07:20] <dholbach> good morning
[09:00] <BUGabundo> guud morning
[09:09] <YoBoY> hi
[09:13] <BUGabundo> YoBoY: hi! nice to see you
[09:14] <stesind> hopefully ubuntu will soon release firefox 3.0.10
[09:14] <YoBoY> nice to see you too BUGabundo :)
[09:26] <BUGabundo> stesind: i'm sure the ubuntu-mozillateam is working on it!
[09:27] <stesind> it is quite annoying because ff crashes a few times a day
[09:28] <BUGabundo> stesind: why dont u try FF 3.5 ?
[09:28] <BUGabundo> Hew: welcome
[09:28] <stesind> it is just beta
[09:28] <BUGabundo> so what?
[09:28] <stesind> and on a productive system
[09:28] <Hew> hi BUGabundo
[09:29] <BUGabundo> i use 3.6 from daily PPA every day
[09:29] <BUGabundo> stesind: its not common the day i have a FF crash
[09:29] <BUGabundo> then again, i'm an alpha tester.... soo....
[09:30] <stesind> i have some pluginst like firebug
[09:30] <stesind> they cause the crashes because of bugfixes in 3.0.9
[09:30] <BUGabundo> i run most of my addons without any trouble
[09:30] <stesind> maybe I give it a try
[09:31] <BUGabundo> nightly tools does wonders
[09:31] <BUGabundo> stesind: if that happens persistently and is able to be reproduced, then file a bug
[09:31] <BUGabundo> on either launchpad or the addon BTS
[09:32] <stesind> it is already known an the fix is in 3.0.10
[09:32] <stesind> it just released bug not available via ubuntu repositories
[09:32] <stesind> but I ment
[09:33] <BUGabundo> ah then u should use the team PPA
[09:33] <BUGabundo> or even daily PPA report back on #ubuntu-mozillateam channel
[09:33] <BUGabundo> or comment on the bug
[11:37] <Intellect> Hi. It seems that I have discovered some kind of bug in nautilus-usershare. What should i do?
[11:39] <BUGabundo> Intellect: run $ ubuntu-bug nautilus-usershare
[11:39] <BUGabundo> also helps if it is reproducable by another user
[11:53] <Baum> hi. its the first time i have submitted a bug in ubuntu. how long will it take before someone looks at it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-mount/+bug/367918
[11:53] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 367918 in libpam-mount "sshd cannot mount cifs shares" [Undecided,New]
[11:53] <Baum> ok
[11:53] <Baum> ;)
[11:54] <Baum> with the ubuntu-bug tool the bugs are also submitted to launchpad so i guess i was right yesterday...
[12:28] <apw> the ubuntu-kernel-team is having a bug day today ... if you have any experience in kernel-triage and would like to help out looking over our backlog please see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/BugDay/20090428 which points to the list of bugs we are attacking (see the community section for unclaimed ones!).  we are lurking over on #ubuntu-kernel as always
[12:45] <emil_s> Hello everybody! Something seems strange in this report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-network-manager/+bug/336190
[12:45] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 336190 in knetworkmanager "Wireless network are hidden by the bar" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[12:46] <emil_s> The problem in right, i can confirm it, but the upstream seems te be wrong: Knetworkmanager nederlandse vertaling (Dutch translation)
[12:50] <emil_s> And "knetworkmanager" is also the old KDE3/QT3. The correct upstream can be found here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188318
[12:50] <ubot4`> KDE bug 188318 in Network Management Plasma Widget "Increasing the number of shown wireless networks makes them overlap VPN connections" [Normal,New]
[13:10] <aaronp> hi all
[13:10] <darizzle> hey
[13:11] <aaronp> i'm not here for long tonight, just wanted to pop in and say g'day to everyone. i've decided i'm going to start helping out with bugs
[13:14] <kklimonda> great, I've lost sound.. -.-
[13:15] <kklimonda> "E: alsa-util.c: Error opening PCM device hw:0: No such file or directory" - that's new..
[13:17] <aaronp> cya next time guys ;-)
[16:00] <hggdh> Baum, it depends on who is available to look at it
[17:00] <stesind1> hi
[17:00] <stesind1> I need to install my canon printer ip4000
[17:01] <charlie-tca> stesind1: better to ask in #ubuntu for help with that
[17:01] <BUGabundo> stesind1: support for ubuntu is on #ubuntu channel
[17:01] <BUGabundo> not here
[17:01]  * BUGabundo still has faster fingers ;)
[17:01] <stesind1> I plug it in usb, and the printer setup dialogue appears, it finds the gutenberg driver
[17:01] <stesind1> and authentication fails
[17:02] <stesind1> root needs passwort on localhost
[17:03]  * charlie-tca got the answer out first, though
[17:03] <charlie-tca> stesind1: still need to ask in #ubuntu
[17:03] <stesind1> does anyone installed a usb printer
[17:04] <BUGabundo> oh no you dintnt charlie-tca
[17:04] <BUGabundo> stesind1: please, refer to a few lines above
[17:04] <BUGabundo> stesind1: support for ubuntu is on #ubuntu channel, no in here!
[17:04] <stesind1> what is this about
[17:04] <stesind1> ß
[17:04] <stesind1> ok
[17:05] <bddebian> Boo
[17:05] <charlie-tca> This is used by the ubuntu-bugsquad for discussing specific bugs already filed
[17:05] <stpere> charlie-tca: too late :-\
[17:05] <BUGabundo> foo
[17:05] <charlie-tca> Yeah, my fingers are faster than my eyes
[17:05] <BUGabundo> ahahaah
[17:07] <hggdh> and myu fongersa arew as goodf ax mye eyeyes
[17:08] <BUGabundo> me too hggdh  eyes suck even after laser surgery
[17:19] <charlie-tca> I think I qualify for laser surgery now.
[17:19] <charlie-tca> can they do it with +4 stygmatism?
[17:20] <davideotape> I wouldn't take the chance if I was you...
[17:20] <BUGabundo> yep
[17:20] <calc> charlie-tca: i think so
[17:20] <BUGabundo> up until 5 or 7
[17:20] <charlie-tca> Been waiting years already
[17:20]  * calc is around -6.5 with astigmatism
[17:20] <BUGabundo> i got from 2.75 to .25
[17:20]  * calc doesn't trust people cutting on his eyes :-\
[17:21] <BUGabundo> but got worse again in this two last years!
[17:21] <charlie-tca> that's enough to make me wait
[17:21] <calc> BUGabundo: were you stablized before you had the surgery?
[17:21] <BUGabundo> calc: believe me it was a terrible experience to be there lying while u watch....gtrrr
[17:21] <calc> i've had the same presecription for the past 10-15 years i think, so i should be stablized
[17:21] <BUGabundo> calc: i was
[17:21] <BUGabundo> i had the same for 4 years
[17:22] <calc> oh
[17:22] <charlie-tca> I can't stay stable for 2 years.
[17:23] <calc> charlie-tca: if your vision hasn't been stable at least for several years don't even think about getting surgery
[17:23]  * charlie-tca thinks the cataracts are not helping
[17:23] <calc> charlie-tca: oh then just get lens replacement or whatever it is they do for that... it often fixes vision as well
[17:23] <charlie-tca> They won't do it until the cataract is completely covering the eye
[17:23] <hggdh> yes
[17:23] <BUGabundo> charlie-tca: no they dont
[17:23] <calc> my grandmother had to have cataract surgery and after that she no longer needed vision correction in that eye
[17:24] <hggdh> charlie-tca, under US health insurance?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> I have heard that.
[17:24] <charlie-tca> yes, hggdh
[17:24] <hggdh> that's why
[17:24] <charlie-tca> retired military
[17:24] <hggdh> wouldn't the vet do it?
[17:25] <charlie-tca> no
[17:25] <charlie-tca> not until they are complete
[17:26] <hggdh> that's ridiculous, and stupid: you have to get blind to qualify :-(
[17:28] <charlie-tca> I know. I kinda yelled that, too
[17:28] <hggdh> ah well. sic tempora gloria mundi, and etc
[18:21] <josephpiche> I have a question about policy: I ran into bug 368425. I would like to set it as wishlist importance, but I don't have access to do that, should I give it a "wishlist" tag?
[18:21] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 368425 in sysvinit "fsck should run on shutdown, not startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368425
[18:22] <james_w> asking in here is best
[18:22] <james_w> I've set it for you now
[18:23] <james_w> it's something that would span more than one package I bet though
[18:24] <hggdh> yes, I would expect so
[18:24] <bdmurray> I thought there was discussion about that once before
[18:24] <hggdh> *some* discussions, if I remember correctly
[18:24] <sbeattie> I thought so, too.
[18:24] <josephpiche> k, thanks
[18:25] <sbeattie> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/prompt-for-fsck-on-shutdown
[18:25] <josephpiche> just out of curiosity, who is able to change that?
[18:26] <sbeattie> Discussion thread based on the technical review starts here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2008-August/026028.html
[18:27] <greg-g> josephpiche: members of the Bug Control team in Launchpad
[18:31] <ball> I filed my first bug today.
[18:31] <josephpiche> greg-g: thanks
[18:31] <ball> ...need to figure out how to find bugs I can fix (or at least confirm) though.
[18:33] <hggdh> ball, list them on launchpad, and then cherry-pick
[18:33] <hggdh> (or stay with only a few packages)
[18:34] <ball> Oooh, is it a bug if Firefox can't be uninstalled?
[18:37] <hggdh> ball, it *might* be. What is the bug #?
[18:39] <ball> hggdh: I haven't filed that one yet
[18:39] <hggdh> ball, it depends on what happened. If you got an error in dpkg/synaptic/apt, then it is probably a bug
[18:41] <ball> hggdh: hang on, let me close Firefox and I'll try it.
[18:42] <ball> yep.  sudo apt-get remove firefox /appears/ to work, but then firefox still launches
[18:43] <hggdh> ball, try running 'dpkg -l firefox\*' and then pastebin the result here
[18:43] <hggdh> !pastebin
[18:43] <ubot4`> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[18:47] <ball> http://www.pastebin.ca/1406356
[18:47] <ball> Have to go, the tree people are here
[20:02] <bdmurray> pedro_: I've tried recreating bug 187136 in Jaunty and it works fine for the mpg I mentioned and a mkv file.  Should I set it to Fix Released?
[20:02] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 187136 in totem "gnome-video-thumbnailer unable to process file" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187136
[20:04] <pedro_> bdmurray: yes, please do so
[20:13] <bdmurray> pedro_: Did you see I'd moved some compiz crashes to the driver package?
[20:15] <pedro_> bdmurray: yeap, thanks
[20:16] <pedro_> bdmurray: most of the crashes there are coming from libGLcore.so.1
[20:16] <bdmurray> pedro_: right, so that is a driver issue according to bryce
[20:16] <pedro_> same with some of the gnome-screensaver
[20:16] <bdmurray> oh, that's a good one to check too
[20:53] <hollman> bug #bug359392
[20:53] <hollman> bug #359392
[20:53] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 359392 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i965] X freezes starting on April 3rd" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359392
[20:54] <hollman> bug 368425
[20:54] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 368425 in sysvinit "fsck should run on shutdown, not startup" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368425
[21:49] <kklimonda> how can i display list of bugs recently posted?
[21:50] <bdmurray> in the advanced search there is a most recent bugs option I think
[21:50] <bdmurray> er, newest first
[21:51] <Elbrus> and recently: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bugnumbers/bugs-since-jaunty.html
[22:13] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[22:14] <hacktick> boa noite BUGabundo
[22:14] <BUGabundo> hacktick: ola
[22:15] <hacktick> comemorou a festa do lançamento de jaunty?
[22:15] <BUGabundo> claro
[22:16] <hacktick> tivemos mais de 200 pessoas aqui em Berlim, foi massa
[22:17] <BUGabundo> porreiro
[23:03] <hggdh> bdmurray, ping?
[23:04] <bdmurray> hggdh: yep
[23:05] <hggdh> bdmurray, please have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/68986
[23:06] <hggdh> I wrote my request, but the more I think about it, the more I consider it a valid point
[23:07] <bdmurray> hggdh: What do you mean exactly?
[23:08] <hggdh> I did not want to go ahead and open it upstream without the user's agreeing, but I think it is worth it
[23:09] <bdmurray> I don't think there is any harm in opening it upstream.  I don't think it is invasive.
[23:09] <hggdh> thanks
[23:11] <BUGabundo> does any know of any new bug for JJ about wifi intel 2100 not working?
[23:12] <kklimonda> nothing on LP?
[23:14] <BUGabundo> I'm having the user searching
[23:16] <hggdh> what is JJ?
[23:16] <Elbrus> I greated an debdiff for a merge for winff (I maintain that in Debian). Can somebody set that to whishlist? bug 368898
[23:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 368898 in winff "Please merge winff1.0.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368898
[23:16] <BUGabundo> bug 291868
[23:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 291868 in libchipcard "i can't enabel my wireless :( (dup-of: 283925)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291868
[23:16] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 283925 in libchipcard "package libchipcard-tools 4.1.3-2 failed to configure: il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283925
[23:17] <BUGabundo> hggdh: jj = jaunty jackalope
[23:17] <hggdh> duh ;-(
[23:17] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:17] <BUGabundo> kk
[23:23] <hggdh> Elbrus, you can subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Special%20types%20of%20bugs). The bug should not be set to wishlist
[23:26] <hggdh> Elbrus, thank you. A workflow bug is not dealt by with us, but by the appropriate teams
[23:29] <askand> Hi, about the (propably tśoon to be famous) freezebug(s) in Jaunty that completly locks up computers regardless of what videocard is being used
[23:29] <askand> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135055
[23:29] <askand> How would one debug such a freeze?
[23:35] <hggdh> askand, better ask in #ubuntu-x
[23:35] <kklimonda> askand: it looks like something new to me. do you have a bug number for this issue?
[23:36] <askand> kklimonda: the only bug I know about is bug 364524
[23:36] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 364524 in ubuntu "Lockup when using strace" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364524
[23:37] <askand> there is possibly more floating around since judging from the thread there are some people experiencing this
[23:38] <BUGabundo> ahh that bug
[23:38] <BUGabundo> I won't test it again
[23:38] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:38] <BUGabundo> last time I got my audio out of syn
[23:38] <BUGabundo> *sync
[23:39] <BUGabundo> but yeah I confirm it, strace makes PC go slow, without any load noticible
[23:40] <askand> Yes, however I dont know if it is related to the freezes people is having
[23:42]  * BUGabundo backsup slowlly
[23:47] <hggdh> askand, there is also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[23:47] <askand> hggdh: yes that is mentioned in the thread but they say it is not an X freeze
[23:49] <hggdh> askand, for that bug you would probably need two machines: one doing the strace (and getting locked up), and another ssh-ing in the first to investigate
[23:51] <darizzle> how long have you guys been helping with ubuntu qa?
[23:53] <hggdh> darizzle, varies per person... I have been around for the last two years and few
[23:54] <darizzle> i have a question
[23:54] <darizzle> i want to get started
[23:54] <darizzle> i have read all of the bugsquad documentation
[23:55] <darizzle> existing on ubuntu.com and the related subdomains
[23:55] <darizzle> but am anxious about how to start
[23:55] <darizzle> because i know the complexity of the process
[23:55] <darizzle> i don't want to step on feet, misidentify, or mishandle
[23:55] <darizzle> is there a time where someone could walk me through a triage
[23:55] <darizzle> or even selection for triage
[23:56] <hggdh> easy: pick *any* bug that you feel confortable (or less unconfortable) and try to work it out
[23:56] <hggdh> and then ask here if you have doubts
[23:58] <BUGabundo> darizzle: calm down, dude, you seem to be on steroids!
[23:58] <BUGabundo> there enough bugs for all your life time and go around a couple more times
[23:59] <hggdh> darizzle, there will be some sessions on bug triaging on the OpenWeek. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek