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mac9416Hello, when I click "Watch TV" nothing happens.00:03
hads!blankscreen00:29
ZinnIf you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory00:29
upgrade_helphi, i tried an apt-get upgrade and I now have a list of 155 packages that are not upgraded.. they have been "kept back"00:41
upgrade_helphow do i force them to be upgraded00:41
upgrade_helpnvm, my bad00:43
upgrade_helpi needed to do a apt-get dist-upgrade00:43
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DisabledDuckso i have an nVidia board and i'm trying to use audio, but whenever i enable IEC958 and Independed HP channel and leave and go back, it's still disabled, any ideas?01:53
Idespnnranyone have any input on mythbuntu vs boxee?02:18
Shadow__Xif you are going to record use mythtv02:19
Shadow__Xif not dont use mythtv02:19
Shadow__Xpretty simple02:20
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Shadow__XIdespnnr, you there02:34
IdespnnrShadow__X: yea02:53
Idespnnrwhat?02:53
Idespnnruse mythtv no matter what?02:54
Idespnnrsounds kinda 1 sided02:54
Shadow__XIdespnnr, no i said if you dont plan on recordding tv use boxee03:00
Shadow__Xif you ARE going to record mythtv03:00
Idespnnrah ok, thanks for th clarification03:00
IdespnnrI dont plan on recording tv03:00
Shadow__Xok yup03:00
Shadow__Xi mean mythtv is alot of great stuff03:00
Shadow__Xbut if you arent  going to record tv i dont really see the point03:01
Shadow__Xbut thats me03:01
Idespnnrfair enough... Ive bounced through several media center solutions03:01
Idespnnrhavent given mythtv a run yet03:01
Idespnnrbut I like the boxee + hulu support03:01
Shadow__Xright i mean technically there is mythvodka but i dont know how well it is supported03:04
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map7I'm getting a 'ltsp-build-client' failed with exit code 1, when trying to build a diskless image under mythbuntu 8.10, is anyone else experiencing this?04:06
EssobiWow..04:15
EssobiMy cable service sucks.04:16
EssobiThey have every channel other then the local broadcasts DRMed.04:16
EssobiEven silly ass cable channels.. like G4.04:16
ZinnEssobi: Please watch your language.04:16
EssobiZinn: pardon04:16
EssobiBut wow... I like like 8 channels out of 150 that I can use over firewire..04:17
Shadow__Xyup thats how it is04:17
Shadow__Xwhat provider04:17
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map7what options does mythbuntu-control-center use when running the ltsp-build-client command?04:55
EssobiShadow__X: It's Insight Communications.04:56
hadsmap7: Turn off your away messages04:58
MythbuntuGuest14hey! uhm im really interested in mythbuntu since im using windows with mediaportal - but i want to try linux. now to my question: will my hdmi output work on my asus p5n em motherboard? what about audio?09:30
MythbuntuGuest14and is 1080p supported?09:31
hads1080 is not an issue. HDMI can be difficult, you may not know 'til you try.09:31
MythbuntuGuest14ic09:32
MythbuntuGuest14what if i use a dvi output with an adapter?09:32
hadsShould be fine.09:32
MythbuntuGuest14cool09:32
MythbuntuGuest14ill try09:32
MythbuntuGuest14dling right now09:32
hadsYou can always dual boot and see how it goes.09:32
MythbuntuGuest14yea that's the plan09:32
hadsMythTV has it's quirks but overall it's a great piece of software.09:33
hadsand mythbuntu makes it quite nice to use.09:33
MythbuntuGuest14yea i heard09:33
MythbuntuGuest14i really like the idea behind linux and i try to use it as often as possible but i often get to a point that i can't overcome and then im forced to use windows again09:35
MythbuntuGuest14but I'm getting better and better slowly but steady09:35
MythbuntuGuest14;-)09:35
hadsUnderstandable :)09:35
hadsYou'll get there one day :)09:36
MythbuntuGuest14hope so =D09:36
MythbuntuGuest14i always get envious when i read an blogpost or something similar saying: ah recently i solved my problem xy, you just had to edit file XYZ here and restart the service there..." etc etc09:37
hadsI haven't had a Windows install since about 2000 and am much happier for it.09:37
MythbuntuGuest14u bet09:38
MythbuntuGuest14i bet09:38
MythbuntuGuest14>_>09:38
MythbuntuGuest14i need to use window at least for work since they use some stupid dlls that are only supported in internet explorer09:39
MythbuntuGuest14i've never seen anything like that before09:39
hadsYeah, I lied a little, I have to keep a virtual Windows install for testing websites etc.09:39
MythbuntuGuest14*g*09:40
MythbuntuGuest14what's a virtual windows install? i only know about Xen09:40
hadsThere's virtualbox, kvm and vmware (non-free)09:40
MythbuntuGuest14ah download's finished09:40
MythbuntuGuest14ah ic09:40
MythbuntuGuest14is ther anything new in mythbuntu since 8.04? that's the last one i tried09:43
MythbuntuGuest14*there09:43
MythbuntuGuest11closed the window by accident09:43
hadsNewer versions of things and better integration I guess.09:45
hadsThe same mythtv version (with more bugfixes)09:46
MythbuntuGuest11kk09:46
MythbuntuGuest11but no bluray support i guess09:46
hadsAFAIK no, but I don't use it.09:47
MythbuntuGuest11hdmi output worked in installation setup.... now stupid me has activated tv output and the nvidia drivers10:23
MythbuntuGuest11will that change the default scrren to tv output?10:23
MythbuntuGuest11atm it's still copying files in the isntallation10:24
MythbuntuGuest84hello, all!10:29
MythbuntuGuest84I was wondering if most folks here had found issues updating mythbuntu from 8.10 to 9.04 via package manager10:30
MythbuntuGuest84I am getting stuttery video now, and was considering if I should re-install from scratch or ts it?10:30
MythbuntuGuest11great: my skystar 2 h is not detected =(10:38
MythbuntuGuest11*hd10:38
cannhey13:58
r3vilehi14:35
r3vilemy lirc does'n start automatically , when i start linux.. how can i add it to autorun?14:35
oober3vile, it should15:04
oobehow do you start it yourself15:04
oobe/etc/init.d/lirc should run on startup15:04
oobesudo update-rc.d lirc defaults15:06
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r3vilenormally i start lirc with:15:36
r3vilesudo lircd --nodaemon --device=/dev/input/event2 --driver=dev/input /etc/lirc/lircd.conf15:36
r3vileotherwise there is an error15:36
r3vile"lircd: invalid argument count"15:37
r3vile<-16:56
BenBhttp://download-redirect.beonex.com/mirror/kubuntu-9.04-kde3-desktop-i386.iso17:30
BenBin case somebody wants the KDE3 version of ubuntu 9.0417:30
BenBhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/17:30
BenB(http download there is incredibly slow)17:30
tgm4883wtf17:38
tgm4883nobody wants your crap17:39
NcA^hey all19:20
NcA^was wondering if I could get some advice?19:20
rhpot1991!ask19:24
ZinnPlease don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.19:24
NcA^Ok, It's just a fairly long-winded question regarding my proposed home network/media setup.19:25
NcA^End Goal; I'd like to have a back-end server running fileshares/bittorrent/rdp with QoS traffic-flow priorities, my main PC running Ubuntu 9.04 and generally getting abused, and my HTPC running Mythbuntu Frontend & being able to use one of the HDD's for recording TV.19:27
NcA^At the moment, I have just switched to Ubuntu 9.04 on my main PC, Have my HTPC running Win7 Media Center, and have everything but a PSU to get the server portion up and running. At the moment, my Media files (music/video) are on an NTFS formatted HDD in my main PC, which I'm intending to move over to the server when I get it up and running.19:30
rhpot1991NcA^: so what is the question?19:31
NcA^I told you it was long-winded :P19:31
NcA^I'm just looking for some advice on how to get this all done, and set up ideally before I go ahead and start ripping out hardware19:31
NcA^First real question, I have 2 choices for the mobo/cpu combos, I have a P4 3.0 w/ HT in my HTPC now, which Ideally I'd like to have in my Server19:33
NcA^The other mobo/cpu is an Athlon x64 2200+19:33
rhpot1991HD or SD video?19:34
NcA^Got a WinTV HVR-1600 so HD19:34
NcA^through Comcast, so not really going to be getting much through ClearQAM19:34
rhpot1991HD playback is very intensive19:34
NcA^Aye, I've been getting a lot of 1080/720p .mkv's lately too19:35
rhpot1991its recommended you use a dual core cpu for that, I think the minimum recomendation is a 3.0ghz cpu19:35
rhpot1991you can sometimes offload some work onto your video card instead, but in general you want a beefy cpu for that19:35
NcA^do you think that the athlon 2200 could keep up with running the mythTV backend as well as a BT client without hanging?19:36
NcA^I've got an ATi x1650pro to throw in there19:36
NcA^which will help a bit19:36
NcA^but I've been reading that you lot really don't reccommend ATi cards19:36
rhpot1991ya nvidia generally works more easily19:37
rhpot1991backend is a different story, you can skimp on the cpu there and you wont notice it as much, things like commercial flagging are going to take a little longer though19:37
NcA^aye ATi's kinda screwed anyone with an older card than the HD3000 series for drivers lately too19:37
NcA^Got 2Gb of RAM for both of the systems19:38
NcA^just worried about the torrent client killing off the backend for streaming videos19:38
NcA^especially with large .mkv format19:38
rhpot1991can't say for sure, but I'd venture you would be ok19:39
NcA^so which chip would you advise to use for the server?19:39
NcA^personal opinion19:39
rhpot1991I'd use the more powerful one for the frontend19:40
rhpot1991you will notice a lack of cpu a lot more when trying to play back HD video19:40
rhpot1991does your capture card do hardware encoding or software?19:41
NcA^I believe it's hardware19:41
NcA^it looks like there's drivers out there too19:41
rhpot1991good, then cpu isn't much of a concern for the backend then19:41
NcA^but they don't look like the best supported19:41
NcA^I'll be using the capture card on the frontend most likely19:41
rhpot1991you could always run them both on the same box as well, once again your cpu might be a little strapped for that with HD playback19:42
rhpot1991capture card needs to live on A backend, you can have multiple though19:42
NcA^hmm19:42
NcA^that's doable as well19:42
NcA^it'll create a lot of network traffic to stream the HD19:42
NcA^which I'm sure my housemates will give me shit for :s19:43
ZinnNcA^: Please watch your language.19:43
NcA^:x19:43
NcA^the other thing I've been stressing about it having this NTFS formatted drive with all my media on it19:44
NcA^it seems to be working alright with my ubuntu install atm, but I know it's not ideal19:44
NcA^hence the problem, I have about 500Gb+ of media on there and am not sure how I can get it all off of there safely if I want to reformat19:45
NcA^Would you take the risk of having to move that amount of data onto 3ish separate drives just to reformat?19:46
rhpot1991easiest way is to pick up an external drive, good things to have around19:46
NcA^I've got a 250Gb one, and a spare 320Gb internal SATA lying around19:46
NcA^and about 100Gb on another of my internal disks19:47
NcA^bear in mind... I'm unemployed ATM, trying to keep the budget as low as possible, PSU + HTPC case + New router are pretty much Killing the whole budget as it is19:50
rhpot1991NcA^: don't get a new case then just use what you have, and get a router that can do some of the things you want19:51
rhpot1991HTPC cases are expensive and don't give you any functionality19:51
NcA^problem is;19:52
NcA^a) I'm vain when it comes to HT components19:53
NcA^aaaannd19:53
NcA^the AMD platform I've got is currently in... WEll.. I'll get you a link19:53
NcA^http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681110805819:54
NcA^one of those, that had the PSU die miserably19:54
NcA^and my HTPC case ATM is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681116305819:55
NcA^so I'd like something that will fit in the rack19:56
rhpot1991NcA^: I'd say do it a step at a time19:56
rhpot1991mess with what you have, when you are happy with it buy new parts19:56
rhpot1991and then keep adding new parts forever :)19:57
NcA^haha19:57
NcA^common problem that :P19:57
NcA^need a case/PSU one way or another though19:57
NcA^so does the backend stream the live TV over the LAN?19:58
NcA^what sort of load are we talking about overall?19:58
rhpot1991will work fine withing a 100 base network without interfering with anything20:01
rhpot1991wireless should normally be avoided20:01
NcA^aye, I found that out using Win Media Center :/20:02
NcA^Dodgy 802.11g + HD = :'(20:03
EssobiMeh.. I can't get firewire to work with my Motorola 6412. :|20:04
rhpot1991Essobi: check for encryption?20:04
Essobirhpot1991: I can' get any of the test programs or the channel changer to work... I have some channels that arn't drmed.20:06
Essobirhpot1991: well.. the p2p fails but the broadcast mode test worked.. but the channel changer isn't working at all..20:06
rhpot1991morotola likes broadcast20:06
rhpot1991your model number isn't somthing I'm used to seeing either, that may be an issue20:07
Essobiyea.. I see docs everywhere on the 62XX but not much on the 64XX...20:07
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Essobibut the 64XX is listed in the channel changer source..20:07
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Essobibut the model/dev ids didn't match.. so I changed the source to match them, and it ignores the channel change.20:07
EssobiI think what I'd like to do is get a controlable 4x4 matrix switch... put Mythtv on one input and another cat box on the 2nd, then run the outs to all four of my TVs..20:09
Essobis/cat/cable/20:09
EssobiI may have to restore to using IR if I can't get the firewire changing working thou..20:10
Essobirestort even.. ehh, I can't type today.20:10
rhpot1991Essobi: PM Majoridiot on the forums, he might know more about that model20:10
Essobiroger that20:10
elgordo123Try to check the knoppmyth forums too.  They were doing a lot with firewire channel changing20:12
EssobiYea?  Cool..20:12
rhpot1991Essobi: check for posts by majoridiot in the forums too, he released a bunch of tools for firewire20:13
rhpot1991if your doesn't play nice none of it will help though20:13
* rhpot1991 has a few motorolla dch-3200s20:13
Essobirhpot1991: cool, thanks.20:17
Essobi3200s dual tuner?20:17
rhpot1991nope20:17
rhpot1991single, but I have 3 of them20:17
EssobiNice..20:17
EssobiFirewire?20:17
rhpot1991ya20:17
EssobiHow's the 5c in your area?20:17
rhpot1991decent, I can pick up most HD channels20:18
rhpot1991a few are problem children, but I just ignore them now20:18
rhpot1991get things like discovery and espn, and then I have a hdhr for my locals20:18
Essobithere seems to be tons of channels with the drm set to 0x2 in my package. :(20:19
EssobiEven the kids cartoon channels!20:20
EssobiThink I'd rather just get like... 3 units.. 2 on capture with haup 150s or something.. and the third on a 4x4 controlable matrix..20:20
r3vilerhpot1991 are you ignoring my pns ? :P20:21
EssobiI need to hack up PS3 bluetooth controls thou for multiple remotes on different X heads..20:21
Essobi....20:21
Essobiyou 'pns'?20:21
Essobiyour... heh.20:21
r3vile?20:21
r3vileare you ;)20:21
Essobiyou meant PMs, right?20:22
r3vileoO .. i mean PM ;)20:22
r3vilein German its PN :P20:22
EssobiHad to point that out.. I pronounced it... Peee-Ennnn-esss... and promptly got odd looks for LOLing.20:26
rhpot1991r3vile: you should prob use the custom configuration in MCC and plug in values there20:28
foxbuntur3vile, its not polite to PM someone that does not ask you to do so. If you have a question please ask it in the open irc channel and wait for help.20:28
rhpot1991you have a config problem which is why it isn't starting, fix that and you should be good20:28
rhpot1991Essobi: a lot of my digital channels are encrypted but I generally only care about the HD ones20:30
rhpot1991its a rarity to have acess actually, I believe law only says that they have to give you locals20:31
Essobirhpot1991: Oh... that bites.20:49
r3vileI want to use a remote, which is not listed in MCC, so i took custom ... what do i have to do now? (my Remote: Technisat TTS35AI)21:08
r3vilehow do i have to edit the hardware.conf21:20
BaZiLHmm . i upgraded from an old version to 8.10 of mythbuntu .. i can see the startup . the logo of mythbuntu .. and i can eaven hear the sound of the computer loging in .. but as soon as its suppose to login .. my tv goes black .. what 2 do ?21:41
EssobiBleh.22:10
EssobiI think MythVodka is a wash for the US people..22:11
zz!help23:00
Zinn!help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].23:00
zzI am trying to use vlc to capture input from my ivtv device, i can cat > BLRG.mpg and I get static so I know it's working ... I just need to tune it but would also like to view it as it comes in(live)23:02
superm1zz, if yo udont get any (timely) responses, you might want to try the forums23:10
superm1!forums | zz23:10
Zinnzz: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.23:10
deminished!help23:47
Zinn!help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].23:47
deminishedhi could any one help me with myth vodka NZB (not asking about hulu)23:49
deminished!vodka23:50
ZinnSorry I don't know about vodka23:50
deminishedi have it like half fixed already23:51

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