[00:03] <mac9416> Hello, when I click "Watch TV" nothing happens.
[00:29] <hads> !blankscreen
[00:29] <Zinn> If you try to watch tv and are greeted with a blank screen and a return to the menu then please check the permissions on your recording directory.  It should be owned by mythtv:mythtv, have permissions of 775, and not be inside your home directory
[00:41] <upgrade_help> hi, i tried an apt-get upgrade and I now have a list of 155 packages that are not upgraded.. they have been "kept back"
[00:41] <upgrade_help> how do i force them to be upgraded
[00:43] <upgrade_help> nvm, my bad
[00:43] <upgrade_help> i needed to do a apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:00]  * map7 is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 28th Apr, 09:58:02)
[01:53] <DisabledDuck> so i have an nVidia board and i'm trying to use audio, but whenever i enable IEC958 and Independed HP channel and leave and go back, it's still disabled, any ideas?
[02:18] <Idespnnr> anyone have any input on mythbuntu vs boxee?
[02:19] <Shadow__X> if you are going to record use mythtv
[02:19] <Shadow__X> if not dont use mythtv
[02:20] <Shadow__X> pretty simple
[02:34] <Shadow__X> Idespnnr, you there
[02:53] <Idespnnr> Shadow__X: yea
[02:53] <Idespnnr> what?
[02:54] <Idespnnr> use mythtv no matter what?
[02:54] <Idespnnr> sounds kinda 1 sided
[03:00] <Shadow__X> Idespnnr, no i said if you dont plan on recordding tv use boxee
[03:00] <Shadow__X> if you ARE going to record mythtv
[03:00] <Idespnnr> ah ok, thanks for th clarification
[03:00] <Idespnnr> I dont plan on recording tv
[03:00] <Shadow__X> ok yup
[03:00] <Shadow__X> i mean mythtv is alot of great stuff
[03:01] <Shadow__X> but if you arent  going to record tv i dont really see the point
[03:01] <Shadow__X> but thats me
[03:01] <Idespnnr> fair enough... Ive bounced through several media center solutions
[03:01] <Idespnnr> havent given mythtv a run yet
[03:01] <Idespnnr> but I like the boxee + hulu support
[03:04] <Shadow__X> right i mean technically there is mythvodka but i dont know how well it is supported
[04:06] <map7> I'm getting a 'ltsp-build-client' failed with exit code 1, when trying to build a diskless image under mythbuntu 8.10, is anyone else experiencing this?
[04:15] <Essobi> Wow..
[04:16] <Essobi> My cable service sucks.
[04:16] <Essobi> They have every channel other then the local broadcasts DRMed.
[04:16] <Essobi> Even silly ass cable channels.. like G4.
[04:16] <Zinn> Essobi: Please watch your language.
[04:16] <Essobi> Zinn: pardon
[04:17] <Essobi> But wow... I like like 8 channels out of 150 that I can use over firewire..
[04:17] <Shadow__X> yup thats how it is
[04:17] <Shadow__X> what provider
[04:36]  * map7 is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 28th Apr, 13:35:09)
[04:55] <map7> what options does mythbuntu-control-center use when running the ltsp-build-client command?
[04:56] <Essobi> Shadow__X: It's Insight Communications.
[04:58] <hads> map7: Turn off your away messages
[09:30] <MythbuntuGuest14> hey! uhm im really interested in mythbuntu since im using windows with mediaportal - but i want to try linux. now to my question: will my hdmi output work on my asus p5n em motherboard? what about audio?
[09:31] <MythbuntuGuest14> and is 1080p supported?
[09:31] <hads> 1080 is not an issue. HDMI can be difficult, you may not know 'til you try.
[09:32] <MythbuntuGuest14> ic
[09:32] <MythbuntuGuest14> what if i use a dvi output with an adapter?
[09:32] <hads> Should be fine.
[09:32] <MythbuntuGuest14> cool
[09:32] <MythbuntuGuest14> ill try
[09:32] <MythbuntuGuest14> dling right now
[09:32] <hads> You can always dual boot and see how it goes.
[09:32] <MythbuntuGuest14> yea that's the plan
[09:33] <hads> MythTV has it's quirks but overall it's a great piece of software.
[09:33] <hads> and mythbuntu makes it quite nice to use.
[09:33] <MythbuntuGuest14> yea i heard
[09:35] <MythbuntuGuest14> i really like the idea behind linux and i try to use it as often as possible but i often get to a point that i can't overcome and then im forced to use windows again
[09:35] <MythbuntuGuest14> but I'm getting better and better slowly but steady
[09:35] <MythbuntuGuest14> ;-)
[09:35] <hads> Understandable :)
[09:36] <hads> You'll get there one day :)
[09:36] <MythbuntuGuest14> hope so =D
[09:37] <MythbuntuGuest14> i always get envious when i read an blogpost or something similar saying: ah recently i solved my problem xy, you just had to edit file XYZ here and restart the service there..." etc etc
[09:37] <hads> I haven't had a Windows install since about 2000 and am much happier for it.
[09:38] <MythbuntuGuest14> u bet
[09:38] <MythbuntuGuest14> i bet
[09:38] <MythbuntuGuest14> >_>
[09:39] <MythbuntuGuest14> i need to use window at least for work since they use some stupid dlls that are only supported in internet explorer
[09:39] <MythbuntuGuest14> i've never seen anything like that before
[09:39] <hads> Yeah, I lied a little, I have to keep a virtual Windows install for testing websites etc.
[09:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> *g*
[09:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> what's a virtual windows install? i only know about Xen
[09:40] <hads> There's virtualbox, kvm and vmware (non-free)
[09:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> ah download's finished
[09:40] <MythbuntuGuest14> ah ic
[09:43] <MythbuntuGuest14> is ther anything new in mythbuntu since 8.04? that's the last one i tried
[09:43] <MythbuntuGuest14> *there
[09:43] <MythbuntuGuest11> closed the window by accident
[09:45] <hads> Newer versions of things and better integration I guess.
[09:46] <hads> The same mythtv version (with more bugfixes)
[09:46] <MythbuntuGuest11> kk
[09:46] <MythbuntuGuest11> but no bluray support i guess
[09:47] <hads> AFAIK no, but I don't use it.
[10:23] <MythbuntuGuest11> hdmi output worked in installation setup.... now stupid me has activated tv output and the nvidia drivers
[10:23] <MythbuntuGuest11> will that change the default scrren to tv output?
[10:24] <MythbuntuGuest11> atm it's still copying files in the isntallation
[10:29] <MythbuntuGuest84> hello, all!
[10:30] <MythbuntuGuest84> I was wondering if most folks here had found issues updating mythbuntu from 8.10 to 9.04 via package manager
[10:30] <MythbuntuGuest84> I am getting stuttery video now, and was considering if I should re-install from scratch or ts it?
[10:38] <MythbuntuGuest11> great: my skystar 2 h is not detected =(
[10:38] <MythbuntuGuest11> *hd
[13:58] <cann> hey
[14:35] <r3vile> hi
[14:35] <r3vile> my lirc does'n start automatically , when i start linux.. how can i add it to autorun?
[15:04] <oobe> r3vile, it should
[15:04] <oobe> how do you start it yourself
[15:04] <oobe> /etc/init.d/lirc should run on startup
[15:06] <oobe> sudo update-rc.d lirc defaults
[15:36] <r3vile> normally i start lirc with:
[15:36] <r3vile> sudo lircd --nodaemon --device=/dev/input/event2 --driver=dev/input /etc/lirc/lircd.conf
[15:36] <r3vile> otherwise there is an error
[15:37] <r3vile> "lircd: invalid argument count"
[16:56] <r3vile> <-
[17:30] <BenB> http://download-redirect.beonex.com/mirror/kubuntu-9.04-kde3-desktop-i386.iso
[17:30] <BenB> in case somebody wants the KDE3 version of ubuntu 9.04
[17:30] <BenB> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
[17:30] <BenB> (http download there is incredibly slow)
[17:38] <tgm4883> wtf
[17:39] <tgm4883> nobody wants your crap
[19:20] <NcA^> hey all
[19:20] <NcA^> was wondering if I could get some advice?
[19:24] <rhpot1991> !ask
[19:24] <Zinn> Please don't ask if anyone is around or if it is alright to ask a question.  Many people check back periodically and may answer your question when they see it.  IRC is not normally an instant fix so check back often for an answer.
[19:25] <NcA^> Ok, It's just a fairly long-winded question regarding my proposed home network/media setup.
[19:27] <NcA^> End Goal; I'd like to have a back-end server running fileshares/bittorrent/rdp with QoS traffic-flow priorities, my main PC running Ubuntu 9.04 and generally getting abused, and my HTPC running Mythbuntu Frontend & being able to use one of the HDD's for recording TV.
[19:30] <NcA^> At the moment, I have just switched to Ubuntu 9.04 on my main PC, Have my HTPC running Win7 Media Center, and have everything but a PSU to get the server portion up and running. At the moment, my Media files (music/video) are on an NTFS formatted HDD in my main PC, which I'm intending to move over to the server when I get it up and running.
[19:31] <rhpot1991> NcA^: so what is the question?
[19:31] <NcA^> I told you it was long-winded :P
[19:31] <NcA^> I'm just looking for some advice on how to get this all done, and set up ideally before I go ahead and start ripping out hardware
[19:33] <NcA^> First real question, I have 2 choices for the mobo/cpu combos, I have a P4 3.0 w/ HT in my HTPC now, which Ideally I'd like to have in my Server
[19:33] <NcA^> The other mobo/cpu is an Athlon x64 2200+
[19:34] <rhpot1991> HD or SD video?
[19:34] <NcA^> Got a WinTV HVR-1600 so HD
[19:34] <NcA^> through Comcast, so not really going to be getting much through ClearQAM
[19:34] <rhpot1991> HD playback is very intensive
[19:35] <NcA^> Aye, I've been getting a lot of 1080/720p .mkv's lately too
[19:35] <rhpot1991> its recommended you use a dual core cpu for that, I think the minimum recomendation is a 3.0ghz cpu
[19:35] <rhpot1991> you can sometimes offload some work onto your video card instead, but in general you want a beefy cpu for that
[19:36] <NcA^> do you think that the athlon 2200 could keep up with running the mythTV backend as well as a BT client without hanging?
[19:36] <NcA^> I've got an ATi x1650pro to throw in there
[19:36] <NcA^> which will help a bit
[19:36] <NcA^> but I've been reading that you lot really don't reccommend ATi cards
[19:37] <rhpot1991> ya nvidia generally works more easily
[19:37] <rhpot1991> backend is a different story, you can skimp on the cpu there and you wont notice it as much, things like commercial flagging are going to take a little longer though
[19:37] <NcA^> aye ATi's kinda screwed anyone with an older card than the HD3000 series for drivers lately too
[19:38] <NcA^> Got 2Gb of RAM for both of the systems
[19:38] <NcA^> just worried about the torrent client killing off the backend for streaming videos
[19:38] <NcA^> especially with large .mkv format
[19:39] <rhpot1991> can't say for sure, but I'd venture you would be ok
[19:39] <NcA^> so which chip would you advise to use for the server?
[19:39] <NcA^> personal opinion
[19:40] <rhpot1991> I'd use the more powerful one for the frontend
[19:40] <rhpot1991> you will notice a lack of cpu a lot more when trying to play back HD video
[19:41] <rhpot1991> does your capture card do hardware encoding or software?
[19:41] <NcA^> I believe it's hardware
[19:41] <NcA^> it looks like there's drivers out there too
[19:41] <rhpot1991> good, then cpu isn't much of a concern for the backend then
[19:41] <NcA^> but they don't look like the best supported
[19:41] <NcA^> I'll be using the capture card on the frontend most likely
[19:42] <rhpot1991> you could always run them both on the same box as well, once again your cpu might be a little strapped for that with HD playback
[19:42] <rhpot1991> capture card needs to live on A backend, you can have multiple though
[19:42] <NcA^> hmm
[19:42] <NcA^> that's doable as well
[19:42] <NcA^> it'll create a lot of network traffic to stream the HD
[19:43] <NcA^> which I'm sure my housemates will give me shit for :s
[19:43] <Zinn> NcA^: Please watch your language.
[19:43] <NcA^> :x
[19:44] <NcA^> the other thing I've been stressing about it having this NTFS formatted drive with all my media on it
[19:44] <NcA^> it seems to be working alright with my ubuntu install atm, but I know it's not ideal
[19:45] <NcA^> hence the problem, I have about 500Gb+ of media on there and am not sure how I can get it all off of there safely if I want to reformat
[19:46] <NcA^> Would you take the risk of having to move that amount of data onto 3ish separate drives just to reformat?
[19:46] <rhpot1991> easiest way is to pick up an external drive, good things to have around
[19:46] <NcA^> I've got a 250Gb one, and a spare 320Gb internal SATA lying around
[19:47] <NcA^> and about 100Gb on another of my internal disks
[19:50] <NcA^> bear in mind... I'm unemployed ATM, trying to keep the budget as low as possible, PSU + HTPC case + New router are pretty much Killing the whole budget as it is
[19:51] <rhpot1991> NcA^: don't get a new case then just use what you have, and get a router that can do some of the things you want
[19:51] <rhpot1991> HTPC cases are expensive and don't give you any functionality
[19:52] <NcA^> problem is;
[19:53] <NcA^> a) I'm vain when it comes to HT components
[19:53] <NcA^> aaaannd
[19:53] <NcA^> the AMD platform I've got is currently in... WEll.. I'll get you a link
[19:54] <NcA^> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811108058
[19:54] <NcA^> one of those, that had the PSU die miserably
[19:55] <NcA^> and my HTPC case ATM is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163058
[19:56] <NcA^> so I'd like something that will fit in the rack
[19:56] <rhpot1991> NcA^: I'd say do it a step at a time
[19:56] <rhpot1991> mess with what you have, when you are happy with it buy new parts
[19:57] <rhpot1991> and then keep adding new parts forever :)
[19:57] <NcA^> haha
[19:57] <NcA^> common problem that :P
[19:57] <NcA^> need a case/PSU one way or another though
[19:58] <NcA^> so does the backend stream the live TV over the LAN?
[19:58] <NcA^> what sort of load are we talking about overall?
[20:01] <rhpot1991> will work fine withing a 100 base network without interfering with anything
[20:01] <rhpot1991> wireless should normally be avoided
[20:02] <NcA^> aye, I found that out using Win Media Center :/
[20:03] <NcA^> Dodgy 802.11g + HD = :'(
[20:04] <Essobi> Meh.. I can't get firewire to work with my Motorola 6412. :|
[20:04] <rhpot1991> Essobi: check for encryption?
[20:06] <Essobi> rhpot1991: I can' get any of the test programs or the channel changer to work... I have some channels that arn't drmed.
[20:06] <Essobi> rhpot1991: well.. the p2p fails but the broadcast mode test worked.. but the channel changer isn't working at all..
[20:06] <rhpot1991> morotola likes broadcast
[20:07] <rhpot1991> your model number isn't somthing I'm used to seeing either, that may be an issue
[20:07] <Essobi> yea.. I see docs everywhere on the 62XX but not much on the 64XX...
[20:07] <Essobi> but the 64XX is listed in the channel changer source..
[20:07] <Essobi> but the model/dev ids didn't match.. so I changed the source to match them, and it ignores the channel change.
[20:09] <Essobi> I think what I'd like to do is get a controlable 4x4 matrix switch... put Mythtv on one input and another cat box on the 2nd, then run the outs to all four of my TVs..
[20:09] <Essobi> s/cat/cable/
[20:10] <Essobi> I may have to restore to using IR if I can't get the firewire changing working thou..
[20:10] <Essobi> restort even.. ehh, I can't type today.
[20:10] <rhpot1991> Essobi: PM Majoridiot on the forums, he might know more about that model
[20:10] <Essobi> roger that
[20:12] <elgordo123> Try to check the knoppmyth forums too.  They were doing a lot with firewire channel changing
[20:12] <Essobi> Yea?  Cool..
[20:13] <rhpot1991> Essobi: check for posts by majoridiot in the forums too, he released a bunch of tools for firewire
[20:13] <rhpot1991> if your doesn't play nice none of it will help though
[20:13]  * rhpot1991 has a few motorolla dch-3200s
[20:17] <Essobi> rhpot1991: cool, thanks.
[20:17] <Essobi> 3200s dual tuner?
[20:17] <rhpot1991> nope
[20:17] <rhpot1991> single, but I have 3 of them
[20:17] <Essobi> Nice..
[20:17] <Essobi> Firewire?
[20:17] <rhpot1991> ya
[20:17] <Essobi> How's the 5c in your area?
[20:18] <rhpot1991> decent, I can pick up most HD channels
[20:18] <rhpot1991> a few are problem children, but I just ignore them now
[20:18] <rhpot1991> get things like discovery and espn, and then I have a hdhr for my locals
[20:19] <Essobi> there seems to be tons of channels with the drm set to 0x2 in my package. :(
[20:20] <Essobi> Even the kids cartoon channels!
[20:20] <Essobi> Think I'd rather just get like... 3 units.. 2 on capture with haup 150s or something.. and the third on a 4x4 controlable matrix..
[20:21] <r3vile> rhpot1991 are you ignoring my pns ? :P
[20:21] <Essobi> I need to hack up PS3 bluetooth controls thou for multiple remotes on different X heads..
[20:21] <Essobi> ....
[20:21] <Essobi> you 'pns'?
[20:21] <Essobi> your... heh.
[20:21] <r3vile> ?
[20:21] <r3vile> are you ;)
[20:22] <Essobi> you meant PMs, right?
[20:22] <r3vile> oO .. i mean PM ;)
[20:22] <r3vile> in German its PN :P
[20:26] <Essobi> Had to point that out.. I pronounced it... Peee-Ennnn-esss... and promptly got odd looks for LOLing.
[20:28] <rhpot1991> r3vile: you should prob use the custom configuration in MCC and plug in values there
[20:28] <foxbuntu> r3vile, its not polite to PM someone that does not ask you to do so. If you have a question please ask it in the open irc channel and wait for help.
[20:28] <rhpot1991> you have a config problem which is why it isn't starting, fix that and you should be good
[20:30] <rhpot1991> Essobi: a lot of my digital channels are encrypted but I generally only care about the HD ones
[20:31] <rhpot1991> its a rarity to have acess actually, I believe law only says that they have to give you locals
[20:49] <Essobi> rhpot1991: Oh... that bites.
[21:08] <r3vile> I want to use a remote, which is not listed in MCC, so i took custom ... what do i have to do now? (my Remote: Technisat TTS35AI)
[21:20] <r3vile> how do i have to edit the hardware.conf
[21:41] <BaZiL> Hmm . i upgraded from an old version to 8.10 of mythbuntu .. i can see the startup . the logo of mythbuntu .. and i can eaven hear the sound of the computer loging in .. but as soon as its suppose to login .. my tv goes black .. what 2 do ?
[22:10] <Essobi> Bleh.
[22:11] <Essobi> I think MythVodka is a wash for the US people..
[23:00] <zz> !help
[23:00] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[23:02] <zz> I am trying to use vlc to capture input from my ivtv device, i can cat > BLRG.mpg and I get static so I know it's working ... I just need to tune it but would also like to view it as it comes in(live)
[23:10] <superm1> zz, if yo udont get any (timely) responses, you might want to try the forums
[23:10] <superm1> !forums | zz
[23:10] <Zinn> zz: The Mythbuntu forums are located at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=301.  If you aren't getting a timely response here, there are lots of very active individuals there that may be able to help.
[23:47] <deminished> !help
[23:47] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[23:49] <deminished> hi could any one help me with myth vodka NZB (not asking about hulu)
[23:50] <deminished> !vodka
[23:50] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about vodka
[23:51] <deminished> i have it like half fixed already