[00:00] <AndySpain> hi
[00:00] <AndySpain> I would like to get kmail work with gpg, but it doesn't
[00:01] <AndySpain> how can I do that?
[00:01] <AndySpain> It actually encrypts with gpg, but i cannot decrypt nor sign
[00:08] <yrjokin> someone told me installing virtualbox from their website would be different from using apt-get - which is best?
[00:12] <AndySpain> apt-get keeps it always more or less current with the automatic updates and best fits your system and downloads all dependencies automatically
[00:12] <AndySpain> however it might be a pretty old version
[00:12] <raylu> yrjokin: from their website, you get the non-free version which has support for usb devices or something
[00:12] <AndySpain> as the versions in aptitude are normally a bit outdated
[00:13] <raylu> AndySpain: ...what?
[00:13] <raylu> AndySpain: apt-get and aptitude use the same repositories, etc
[00:13] <AndySpain> yes
[00:13] <AndySpain> I know
[00:13] <AndySpain> but they are not always very up to date
[00:13] <raylu> AndySpain: then why do you say apt-get is more up to date?
[00:13] <AndySpain> website is more upt to date
[00:13] <skierpage> Is "'System Settings' appears neither in Kickoff's System or Settings application menu" a KDE bug or Kubuntu bug?
[00:14] <raylu> AndySpain: oh. yeah. but then removing them isn't as simple
[00:14] <AndySpain> that's true, too
[00:14] <AndySpain> can anybody tell me how to make kmail work with gpg?
[00:15] <AndySpain> it simply doesn't ask for passfrases
[00:16] <yrjokin> raylu: you meant the closed source version has USB support - I almost took you to mean the opposite of that
[00:17] <mazz147> c'è qualche italiano ? :)
[00:19] <AndySpain> mazz147: c'è kubuntu-it, credo
[00:21] <lorecaster> trying to install SKYPE on ubuntu 9.04... having some problems. http://pastebin.com/m5506e390
[00:25] <tsimpson> lorecaster: use "sudo apt-get -f install" to get the dependencies
[00:26] <raylu> yrjokin: yes. but by closed-source, i meant non-free
[00:26] <raylu> yrjokin: i meant what i said, rather
[00:29] <lorecaster> tsimpson: still crashed
[00:29] <lorecaster> same errors
[00:30] <tsimpson> it should try to resolve the dependencies
[00:31] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/m559d5d44
[00:32] <tsimpson> lorecaster: ok, install libqt4-gui first, then skype
[00:36] <lorecaster> working on it tsimpson
[00:38] <lorecaster> tsimpson: i just installed libqt4-gui through synaptic, and still got the same error... will restart and see if that helps
[00:39] <dag_> @all: Hi there!
[00:42] <dag_> did some of you upgraded from kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04? issues?
[00:45] <jacalope> so my knetworkmanager uses 200MB of memory in 9.04.... Isn't that a bit much?
[00:47] <jacalope> k4284
[00:49] <dag_> jacalope: your sentence seems an answer to my previous question...
[00:51] <jacalope> dag_: well, actually, my experience personally has been one of greater stability, but I just noticed the knetworkmanager thing and it seems odd
[01:00] <dag_> jacalope: today i spoke with a guy that encountered an issue with KNetworkManager in 9.04
[01:00] <dag_> jacalope: I'm a little scared to upgrade right now, although the temptation is really great
[01:02] <dwidmann> dag_: wouldn't be the first I've heard about issues with network manager in 9.04, and I'm sure it won't be the last either
[01:04] <dag_> jacalope: nor is the first time that knetworkmanager is a bit buggy! ;)
[01:05] <earle> I gave up on knetworkmanager after the 9.04 upgrade and switched to wicd.
[01:05] <earle> Sorry K folks :)
[01:06] <dag_> earle: isn't wicd just a wi_fi network manager?
[01:06] <BluesKaj> jacalope, there's a fix in the works , checkout launchpad , there are some suggestions there for adding a repos that will add an experimenatl version that seems to work on my laptop . Make sure you purge the existing network manager , then install the new one before rebooting
[01:06] <mefisto__> very minor issue with vlc interface: I can't get the video window to embed in the main interface - it always shows as a separate window. anyone else with this problem?
[01:07] <earle> dag_: "just"? I don't get you...
[01:07] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, the last version is like that,they will fix it in the next version.
[01:08] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: ok, thanks. I'll give up on playing with those settings :)
[01:08] <dag_> earle: can wicd manage every kind of network?
[01:09] <earle> it's happy with wired and wireless
[01:09] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, you do that,i was in the same position a few hours ago,and then i googled the prob and i show that it's actually a bug or something.u can google it 4 more info ;)
[01:09] <dag_> earle: that's what I meant! tnx :)
[01:09] <earle> no worries :)
[01:10] <earle> I find its interface much easier than knetworkmanager's
[01:10] <dag_> earle: I'll give it a try
[01:10] <dag_> earle: maybe there's also a plasmoid for that
[01:11] <Captain_Haddock> just upgraded to 9.4 ... immediate issue is that my mouse pointer is invisible
[01:11] <Captain_Haddock> mouse works though
[01:11] <earle> there is, yes, I haven't tried it yet though
[01:11] <Captain_Haddock> I've tried resetting the pointer theme in system settings etc., to no avail
[01:14] <dag_> captain_haddock: sorry for the (maybe so) stupid question...did you tried a reboot?
[01:14] <Captain_Haddock> dag_: yep
[01:14] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: did you find the vlc 1.0 pre-release ppa? I'm going to try it. apparently this issue is resolved in that version
[01:16] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, nope,i didnt even search that output video aint a big prob for me,thanks for the info anyway!i'll wait till the next stable release :)
[01:16] <mortici> is there anyway to just make a specific file out of the source instead of making the whole source?
[01:16] <dag_> captain_haddock: ok, i'm here to listen some rumors about jaunty upgrade, 'cause fear a bit to upgrade my kubuntu version
[01:19] <jacalope> oh cool... thanks for the tip BluesKaj!
[01:27] <servneo2009> teste
[01:29] <KiRiLoS> I have a sound problem,when i use an app like vlc or amarok and play a track,then every app that uses sound doesnt seem to work.Any help ?
[01:33] <repbolivar04> hola
[01:33] <f3n1x> do u have audio drive intalled?
[01:33] <f3n1x> hola
[01:33] <repbolivar04> que tal es el 9.04
[01:33] <KiRiLoS> f3n1x, well i didnt install any,but it works if i only use one app at a time
[01:33] <f3n1x> mm personalmente me sorprendio
[01:34] <f3n1x> no me gusta ubuntu
[01:34] <f3n1x> pero probe esta y me la quede
[01:34] <repbolivar04> el kubuntu 9.04 pero hay harware que no detecta
[01:34] <KiRiLoS> f3n1x, if u are talkin to me,try some English :P
[01:35] <f3n1x> not that was to another person who speak spanish
[01:35] <f3n1x> am sorry if my english is bad
[01:35] <f3n1x> or an indian english
[01:35] <f3n1x> lol
[01:35] <KiRiLoS> :P um it's ok
[01:35] <KiRiLoS> do u have any solutions for my problem ?
[01:35] <faileas> KiRiLoS: sounds almost like you're running OSS
[01:36] <f3n1x> when u try to play a track with an ap it work
[01:36] <f3n1x> ?
[01:36] <KiRiLoS> yes f3n1x
[01:36] <faileas> open sound system. As opposed to alsa or pulseaudio
[01:36] <repbolivar04> hay harwdware q no detecta
[01:36] <faileas> !es | repbolivar04
[01:36] <KiRiLoS> but at that exact time if i try to use another app then the 2nd one doesnt!
[01:36] <repbolivar04> gracias
[01:37] <KiRiLoS> faileas, any tips about how i change that ?
[01:37] <KiRiLoS> i am new to KDE >.<
[01:37] <faileas> KiRiLoS: hmm... i can't remember offhand. try sudo alsa force-reload
[01:38] <faileas> it might be deeper than that, and need some alsa related reinstalls i've not needed to do yet
[01:38] <KiRiLoS> oh :/
[01:40] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: have you looked in systemsettings > multimedia? try changing the order in the devices list. If pulseaudio is at the top, rearrange it so your soundcard is at the top, or vice versa
[01:41] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, i just noticed that settings,i got 3 options hda intel analog - hda intel digital and pulse audio,pulse audio and hda analog work when i test em
[01:41] <KiRiLoS> do i have to restart after i optimize the settings ?
[01:42] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, ?
[01:44] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: I'm not sure, but in previous kubuntu versions (I'm assuming you have jaunty) you could restart sound without rebooting with sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:45] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: another way is sudo alsa force-reload, but that will kill any programs using sound, including kmix
[01:45] <KiRiLoS> anyway i'll try restart, but what i noticed mefisto__ is that when i got an app working(ex amarok) when i test pulse or hda analog/digital i get an error that it says it's not working...
[01:46] <KiRiLoS> wow mefisto__ i used alsa force-reload
[01:47] <KiRiLoS> and i get a message saying that it's gonna permantly remove the 3 hda devices i have
[01:49] <mefisto__> that message is in konsole? from the alsa command?
[01:49] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, no a window popped up
[01:50] <dag_> kirilos: what if you launch in konsole "alsamixer"
[01:50] <dag_> ?
[01:51] <KiRiLoS> i did dag_ i get a volume manager or something
[01:52] <russ> Why does openoffice 3 corrupt the taskbar in kde 4
[01:52] <dag_> kirilos: so it doesn't deleted your interfaces, sounds good
[01:52] <dag_> :)
[01:52] <russ>  Why does openoffice 3 corrupt the taskbar in kde 4?
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> openoffice exposes a bug in the graphics drivers for your card
[01:53] <KiRiLoS> dag_, well i didnt accept that pop up :P
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> it should be fixed in later versions of the nvidia driver
[01:53] <KiRiLoS> but the problem isnt solved!
[01:53] <mefisto__> russ: screenshot?
[01:54] <dag_> kirilos: you can, to keep it simple, "dpkg-reconfigure alsa" without quote
[01:54] <russ> when i have writer opened and i unhide the taskbar
[01:54] <dag_> kirilos: and reboot your pc can maybe help
[01:55] <russ> it pixulates beyond reconition
[01:55] <dag_> russ: it's a plasma desktop issue
[01:55] <dag_> russ: seems to be unrelated to OO.O
[01:55] <russ> im using Nvidia 173.14.12
[01:56] <JontheEchidna> it was fixed in the 180 series, I believe
[01:56] <dag_> russ: me too, but the taskbar pixelize randomly also with other applications
[01:56] <russ> not others for me
[01:57] <dag_> jontheechidna: ah, thanks for the hint! :p
[01:58] <dag_> kirilos: any news?
[01:58] <KiRiLoS> dag_, wait i just saw your msg :P
[01:58] <dag_> -_-! sorry
[01:59] <KiRiLoS> dag_, lol ! Package `alsa' is not installed and no info is available.
[01:59] <KiRiLoS> maybe you gave me a wrong command ? :P
[02:00] <dag_> kirilos: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[02:00] <fjallagyldir> hej there
[02:00] <KiRiLoS> dag_, nothing happend....
[02:01] <dag_> kirilos: if it doesn't do the trick dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[02:01] <russ> Maybe 4.2.3 will fix openoffice
[02:01] <KiRiLoS> dag_, well again...Nothing,wtf?
[02:03] <dag_> kirilos: ahahah, it's weird!
[02:03] <KiRiLoS> dag_, :P
[02:05] <Guest5641> alguna chilenita?????
[02:05] <KiRiLoS> dag_, anything else i should try ?
[02:07] <dillon> :)
[02:08] <dag_> kirilos: if something like that was happen to me, i should "sudo kill -9 alsa" or "sudo killall alsa", then i should try to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils" and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base"; if these don't resolve, a cute "sudo dpkg-reconfigure all"; then again a reboot; and if I was really desperate I should "sudo aptitude reinstall alsa"
[02:09] <KiRiLoS> dag_, :P nice answer,anyway maybe i'll try that out tommorrow :P
[02:09] <nafion112> hi all. is there a quick and easy way in jaunty to make my caps lock an additional ctrl?
[02:09] <dag_> kirilos: you're right! what time is it in your country?
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> dag_, 04:10 AM :P
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> insomnia >.<
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> :P
[02:10] <dag_> 3:10 here in Italy
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> oh you are pretty close :P i am from greece :P
[02:11] <dag_> I suppose it from your nickname :D
[02:11] <KiRiLoS> hehe :p
[02:12] <grimpirate> Does anyone know the system reqs for kubuntu?
[02:12] <dag_> καλή νύχτα
[02:12] <grimpirate> I'm looking at the site but can't seem to find them
[02:12] <KiRiLoS> dag_, :P the only thing i know in italian is : Non e colpa mia!
[02:12] <KiRiLoS> if i spell that right :P
[02:13] <dag_> kirilos: ahahahah why you learned that? You was accused? It means "that's not my fault"
[02:14] <grimpirate> Does anyone know the link for the system reqs?
[02:14] <KiRiLoS> dag_, yes i know what it means :P i was like 5 years old in Kefalonia(A greek island really close to Italy,and i was messing with stuff down to the port :P and a lot of italians where there)
[02:14] <KiRiLoS> so they were keep yelling at me :P and i learned that :P
[02:15] <dag_> ahahah
[02:15] <dag_> ok, got it!
[02:15] <dag_> grimpirate: wait a minute
[02:17] <grimpirate> certainly dag
[02:18] <dag_> grimpirate: cpu 700MHz x86, 384 Mb RAM, 8 Gb free hard disk space, graphic and audio card, internet connection
[02:19] <grimpirate> ty dag
[02:19]  * grimpirate disappointed
[02:20] <nafion112> is there a quick and easy way in jaunty to make my caps lock an additional ctrl?
[02:27] <jedix> is there a way to change what volume is changed by the volume keys on my laptop?
[02:29] <yamishi> hi
[02:29] <yamishi> is there someone here?
[02:29] <jedix> I am
[02:30] <jedix> but I am seeking help too
[02:30] <yamishi> jajaja
[02:30] <yamishi> ok
[02:30] <dag_> hi there
[02:30] <dag_> what's the issue?
[02:30] <yamishi> so what are you looking help for?
[02:31] <jedix>  a way to change what volume is changed by the volume keys on my laptop
[02:31] <jedix> for some reason it's the pcm volume and not the main one
[02:32] <yamishi> umm
[02:32] <jedix> the mute button also only shows me the volume since 9.04 upgrade
[02:34] <dag_> jedix: right click on mixer trayicon, and click on "select default channel" or something like that
[02:34] <jedix> dag_: Thank you!
[02:34] <jedix> also fixed the mute key
[02:34] <jedix> nice
[02:35] <yamishi> umm
[02:35] <yamishi> well
[02:35] <yamishi> i need some help with the idjc
[02:35] <yamishi> since i upgraded to 9.04 i can't open it
[02:36] <jedix> idjc?
[02:36] <dag_> internet dj console?
[02:36] <yamishi> internet dj console
[02:36] <yamishi> yeah
[02:36] <yamishi> it just opens the select profile
[02:37] <yamishi> and then it doesn't opens anything
[02:37] <dag_> yamishi: you can't open it, or it just doesn't load?
[02:38] <yamishi> it doesn't load
[02:38] <yamishi> well
[02:39] <yamishi> after selecting the profile
[02:39] <yamishi> nothing loads or opens
[02:39] <jedix> did you try from a terminal to see if there are error messages?
[02:39] <dag_> yamishi: idjc --version?
[02:40] <yamishi> umm
[02:41] <yamishi> well no
[02:41] <yamishi> and
[02:41] <yamishi> the last version on the oficial webpage
[02:41] <dag_> yamishi: ok, if it is the latest version there's a known issue
[02:42] <yamishi> oh
[02:42] <yamishi> umm
[02:42] <dag_> yamishi: but there's also a solution
[02:42] <yamishi> oh
[02:42] <yamishi> sounds good
[02:42] <yamishi> so
[02:42] <yamishi> what is the solutions
[02:42] <yamishi> and the issue
[02:42] <yamishi> ?
[02:47] <lorecaster> Can anyone recommend a good FTP client for ubuntu 9.04 (gnome)?
[02:48] <deever> hi
[02:48] <dag_> lorecaster: filezilla
[02:48] <dag_> hi deever! :)
[02:48] <deever> is XDMCP under kubuntu possible?
[02:48] <lorecaster> sudo apt-get filezilla?
[02:48] <dag_> right
[02:49] <deever> the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc "hack" i know and tried, but kdm still doesn't listen on 0.0.0.0:117
[02:49] <lorecaster> thanks so much dag_
[02:50] <dag_> deever: are you attempt to do it inside a LAN?
[03:25] <Trebacz> Looking for a KDE web development package with source control integration. Something like Quanta and Kdesvn? Suggestions. Alternatives
[03:34] <vegas513> how's it going everybody?
[03:37] <vegas513> i recently installed kubuntu 9.04 x64 and i keep getting artifacts left onscreen when i minimize/resize windows
[03:37] <vegas513> can't figure out why
[03:37] <rgarcia> hey everybody...what do you think about kubuntu 9.04?
[03:37] <jschall> Can I use mouse4 and mouse5 to go forward and back in konqueror yet? Does 64 bit flash work properly in konqueror?
[03:38] <rgarcia> anybody?
[03:39] <yamishi> umm
[03:39] <yamishi> i thinks is pretty good
[03:40] <rgarcia> really, but does it have many changes?
[03:40] <rgarcia> what about the bugs?
[03:41] <yrjokin> which bugs? It is lots better than 8.10 but you want a fresh install to use ext4
[03:42] <yamishi> yeah
[03:42] <yamishi> for me it's better than 8.10
[03:42] <yrjokin> 8.10 had me going back to 8.04
[03:43] <yamishi> there are some issues with somethings like the internet dj console
[03:43] <yamishi> but they can be fixed
[03:43] <rgarcia> look...I'm new here...I'm using the 8.04, and the adept updater warn me to update to 9.04, what you think is better for me do?
[03:43] <yamishi> update
[03:43] <yrjokin> You can do that but you will still be using ext3
[03:44] <rgarcia> right...so the best way is downloading the new from kubuntu.org..and than install make the ext4?
[03:44] <yrjokin> and you mean udgrade - but do it or start again as you can get ext4 which is blazing fast
[03:44] <yrjokin> you read my mind
[03:46] <yamishi> but isn't ext4 incompatible with somethings?
[03:46] <faileas> ext4 has a few issues with datal oss
[03:46] <rgarcia> is it?
[03:46] <faileas> though KDE on jaunty is better than on intrepid IMO
[03:46] <yamishi> well yeah
[03:49] <yrjokin> ant issues with ext4 are cleared and the losses where when people were trying to install it with the data in place!
[03:49] <yrjokin> any
[03:50] <yrjokin> It's fine with a fresh install - its fast!
[03:51] <vegas513> so far i'm having issues with video
[03:51] <vegas513> in jaunty
[03:53] <deever> dag_: huh?
[03:54] <deever> sure inside a lan, not over internet! :)
[03:54] <dag_> deever: ?
[03:54] <deever> dag_: ?
[03:54] <dag_> deever: !
[03:54] <dag_> deever: :D
[03:55] <deever> dag_: haha, very funny...have you XDMCP ruuning on a hardy box?
[03:55] <deever> ;)
[03:59] <deever> dag_: hello?
[03:59] <dag_> deever: I tried, but without any luck
[04:00] <dag_> deever: :/
[04:00] <dag_> deever: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910058
[04:02] <deever> weird...
[04:03] <deever> even more so, that it works w/o problems in ubuntu...:(
[04:03] <dag_> deever: maybe you'll like more this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[04:03] <dag_> deever: it's the LinuxTerminalServerProject (for thinclient)
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> Is there a way to view what apps a session is starting in real time? When I log in it sometimes takes several minutes for my apps from autostart and session to run and appear in the tray.
[04:09] <deever> dag_: no, actually, my thin client is a laptop, which i use a my main box...;)
[04:12] <dag_> deever: sorry for my stupid question but...you need to xdmcp or id just to give it a try?
[04:13] <deever> dag_: i need it...;)
[04:15] <dag_> deever:what about kdrc?
[04:15] <dag_> deever: did you tried?
[04:17] <deever> dag_: you mean /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc?
[04:18] <dag_> deever: keep it simple: Kmenu ----> applications ----> internet ------> kdmrc
[04:28] <rmrfslash_> I just read AMD is dropping fglrx support for chips <= R600
[04:30] <dag_> 4 8 15 16 23 42
[04:31] <Wolfcastle> hello
[04:31] <dag_> hi there
[04:31] <Wolfcastle> anyone else having problems with mplayer in kubuntu 9.04?
[04:31] <Wolfcastle> after a while of playing a file it starts using up almost all my memory
[04:33] <dag_> @all: good night
[04:34] <Wolfcastle> nobody?
[04:34] <yamishi> bye bye
[04:36] <yamishi> does anyone knows what's up with this "error"?
[04:37] <yamishi> yamishi@atarashi-fantasy:~$ idjc
[04:37] <yamishi> Internet DJ Console Version 0.7.2a
[04:37] <yamishi> Copyright 2005-2007 Stephen Fairchild
[04:37] <yamishi> Released under the GNU General Public License V3.0
[04:37] <yamishi> no profile specified
[04:37] <yamishi> display encoding: UTF-8 filesystem encoding: UTF-8
[04:37] <yamishi> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py:1521: DeprecationWarning: os.popen2 is deprecated.  Use the subprocess module.
[04:37] <yamishi>   self.mixer_ctrl, self.mixer_rply = os.popen2([ libexecdir + "idjcmixer" ], 4096)
[04:37] <yamishi> no message buffer overruns
[04:37] <yamishi> Traceback (most recent call last):
[04:37] <yamishi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py", line 2262, in <module>
[04:37] <yamishi>     run_instance = MainWindow(sys.argv[1:])
[04:37] <yamishi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py", line 1681, in __init__
[04:37] <yamishi>     self.mic_select = nice_mic_togglebutton()
[04:37] <yamishi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py", line 218, in __init__
[04:37] <yamishi>     gtk.ToggleButton.__init__(self, label, use_underline)
[04:37] <yamishi> RuntimeError: more argument specifiers than keyword list entries (remaining format:'):GtkToggleButton.__init__')
[04:37] <yamishi> yamishi@atarashi-fantasy:~$ Mixer module has closed
[04:37] <harolddong> use pastebin
[04:37] <MushroomKingdom> Hi, I'm having some problems being able to switch cd's while installing programs to Wine
[04:37] <Wolfcastle> guess I'll go back to debian
[04:37] <Wolfcastle> can't have a OS without smplayer
[04:37] <okisa> somebody is a girl?
[04:38] <Wolfcastle> yamishi: use pastebin
[04:41] <yamishi> can someone help me with the idjc bug or something?
[04:43] <jschall> 64 bit flash work in konqueror?
[04:45] <rmrfslash_> Yeah... just figured out I needed to run aticonfig --initial after installing the fglrx driver
[04:46] <Wolfcastle> hmm seems this memory problem is with amarok too..maybe it is the sound system
[04:46] <Wolfcastle> kubuntu jaunty uses phonon right?
[04:49] <Rayner> greetings
[04:49] <Rayner> I'm having some problems with extreme memory usage of some programs
[04:49] <Rayner> specifically mplayer and amarok
[04:49] <Rayner> could this be a problem with phonon?
[04:50] <deever> dag_: there is no such item...
[04:54] <rmrfslash_> eugh resume from suspend or hibernate is still broken w/ fglrx
[04:55] <harolddong> exactly what is gwenview suppposed to do when you click a tag on its homepage?  Mine just acts like it wants to load something but never does
[04:56] <harolddong> is the nepomuk implementation in gwenview just not finished yet?
[05:06] <superwad> how would i add a repository for the nightly build of amarok through SVN?
[05:06] <superwad> the stable amarok just isn't working for me :(
[05:08] <harolddong> speaking of the nightly builds... is the project neon repo going to be updated for jaunty at some point?
[05:14] <triune> i want to make my amarok 2 look like my amarok 1.4 :|
[05:16] <superwad> triune: don't think that would happen :(
[05:20] <rmrfslash_> fglrx won't resume if desktop effects are enabled. anyone else notice this?
[05:20] <rmrfslash_> is there a resolution short of disabling desktop effects?
[05:24] <InexperiencedMic> Hello.
[05:24] <InexperiencedMic> Who's willing to help a Linux newbie stop being such an idiot?
[05:24] <InexperiencedMic> Welcome, hopefully-experienced-Kubuntu-user.
[05:25] <InexperiencedMic> Uh, hello?
[05:26] <InexperiencedMic> Hello.
[05:26] <InexperiencedMic> Please tell me that, out of 318 online users, I'm not the only one who's actually "here."
[05:28] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: yes
[05:28] <InexperiencedMic> Hello?
[05:28] <InexperiencedMic> Oh, goodie, a reply!
[05:28] <InexperiencedMic> Don't suppose you'd happen to be fairly experienced with Kubuntu, would you?
[05:29] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: Just ask
[05:29] <InexperiencedMic> How do I do anything at all?
[05:29] <InexperiencedMic> For instance, installing drivers.
[05:30] <CPrgmSwR2> wow quassel is nice
[05:30] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: what driver?
[05:30] <InexperiencedMic> Well, any. Let's start with a wireless driver.
[05:31] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: What wireless card do you have
[05:31] <InexperiencedMic> Good question. Running on a Dell Inspiron E1405. Let me look it up.
[05:32] <rmrfslash_> can i shut off desktop effects on the command line?
[05:32] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic:  in a terminal lspci
[05:34] <InexperiencedMic> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[05:35] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: Just a little help http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[05:37] <InexperiencedMic> Alright... What am I looking at ?
[05:37] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[05:37] <InexperiencedMic> Hey.
[05:38] <MachinTrucChose> I would like to be able to run a program (my torrent client) when the machine boots up, regardless of whether a user logged in or not. ie, just powering on the machine and staring at the login screen, would have the torrent client start in the background, (like a Windows service). How can I do this?
[05:38] <Idiot> Alright, so...
[05:40] <Idiot> I don't get it... How is a new guy supposed to start off, anyway?
[05:40] <Idiot> Good thing I've got this tutorial thing that I copy jibberish commands over from.
[05:41] <MachinTrucChose> Idiot: what's up? I'm a newbie too but maybe it's something I know.
[05:41] <Idiot> Well, I got a link here and I'm copying over chunks of code to Terminal.
[05:41] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: I think you need to do the instructions half way down the page for device firmware
[05:42] <Idiot> I'm just a bit annoyed that this is even necessary.
[05:42] <socceroos> Idiot, what are you trying to acomplish?
[05:42] <Idiot> Trying to install drivers for my wireless card.
[05:42] <socceroos> you may find it isn't necessary
[05:43] <Idiot> I ran these commands, but I'm not sure if it actually accomplished anything.
[05:43] <socceroos> what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[05:43] <Idiot> Newest. 9.something.
[05:43] <socceroos> ok
[05:43] <MachinTrucChose> Sorry, can't help with driver stuff. The default drivers worked from the get-go for both my PC and laptop wireless cards.
[05:43] <Idiot> Hrm...
[05:43] <Idiot> Well, I pull up the Hardware Drivers thing.
[05:44] <socceroos> Idiot (cant get used to that name =) ), Do you know what wireless card you're using?
[05:44] <Idiot> Oh, wait... *sigh* Looks like one of these drivers in the Hardware Driversr thing worked.
[05:44] <Idiot> But don't worry, I'm sure I'll have more questions very soon.
[05:45] <Idiot> Now, I can use the jibberish code I got from somewhere to actually connect to the network.
[05:45] <socceroos> Idiot, just to briefly explain, the terminal is only used when you need to exercise fine-grained control over the system - such as interacting with drivers. In almost all circumstances though, there is a GUI tool that will do the job.
[05:46] <Idiot> Ah, good. How can I connect to a wireless network via GUI?
[05:47] <Idiot> Because I despise Terminal with a fiery passion that all the horrors of Hell cannot fathom to even begin to match.
[05:48] <robin0800__> Idiot: Is this an upgrade?
[05:48] <Idiot> From Vista? I'm still trying to decide.
[05:48] <socceroos> The current Kubuntu 9.04 release has a small icon in the system tray that looks like a plug, can you see it?
[05:49] <socceroos> Idiot: i would have recommended installing Ubuntu 9.04 instead of Kubuntu personally.
[05:49] <Idiot> Eh, got a tip from a friend who loves Linux.
[05:49] <Idiot> Let's see... small plug... *searches*
[05:50] <Idiot> I think I see something that vaguely resembles a plug.
[05:50] <socceroos> Only because it is a little more 'polished'. I say this because Kubuntu 9.04 currently is experiencing wireless issues in some setups ( ie, wireless encryption).
[05:50] <raylu> socceroos: that's not true
[05:50] <socceroos> raylu: yes it is.
[05:50] <raylu> socceroos: the gui is only used when there's no faster way in the terminal :D
[05:51] <raylu> 12:45:55   socceroos> Idiot, just to briefly explain, the terminal is only used when you need to exercise fine-grained control over the system - such as interacting with drivers. In almost all circumstances though, there is a GUI tool that will do the job.
[05:51] <socceroos> raylu: if that's your mentality -- the Kubuntu is only suitable for developers and experienced linux users.
[05:51] <raylu> well, it's a matter of preference, of course
[05:51] <robin0800__> raylu: Doesn't work here with mobile broardband
[05:51] <socceroos> ah, raylu, I thought you were referring to wireless issues
[05:51] <Idiot> Faster, sure, but how does one actually learn this stuff without years of research and study?
[05:51] <socceroos> I personally love the terminal
[05:52] <raylu> robin0800__: er, huh?
[05:52] <raylu> Idiot: just... use it
[05:52] <raylu> that's how i learned it
[05:52] <Idiot> Hrm...
[05:52] <raylu> that's also how i learned everything else that i'm good at
[05:52] <raylu> by doing
[05:52] <Captain_Haddock> anybody having issues with invisible mouse pointers post upgrade to Jaunty?
[05:52] <Idiot> Well, I mean, maybe I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed and all that, but give me XP and an internet connection and I can do anything I'd ever want to do.
[05:53] <tsimpson> we all spent years learning how to use linux, but we forgot to write it all down, sorry ;)
[05:53] <raylu> Idiot: then why are you on linux?
[05:53] <Idiot> Because XP is going out of service.
[05:53] <socceroos> raylu: because of vista aparently
[05:53] <raylu> ah. heh, that's a good reason
[05:53] <Idiot> Well, I mean, I game.
[05:53] <robin0800__> Idiot: Windows 7
[05:54] <Idiot> I don't do much programming beyond some slight web development and such.
[05:54] <Idiot> Mostly web design if anything.
[05:54] <socceroos> Idiot: me too.
[05:54] <Idiot> So, I mean, I guess I don't appreciate what's so great about Linux.
[05:54] <Idiot> In my experience, Linux means hours and hours of figuring out how to even install a program.
[05:55] <Idiot> Versus two clicks in Windows.
[05:55] <raylu> but windows means either you can do it (in 3 seconds) or it can't be done. period.
[05:55] <socceroos> Idiot: there is a lot thats good about linux, the best way to handle it is to understand that Linux will behave differently than windows - not worse, just differently
[05:55] <Idiot> I guess... But then, I think I'd rather give up than sort through a thousand lines of code looking for a missing semicolon, heh.
[05:55] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: it takes me about 2 seconds to install a program...
[05:55] <raylu> speaking of that... http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:56] <raylu> also, missing semicolons can be found in seconds. also, you should never need to sort through code :P
[05:56] <Idiot> What command do yo uuse, Cap'n?
[05:56] <Idiot> Please forgive my typing on this oddly oversensitive keyboard.
[05:56] <raylu> Idiot: on kubuntu, aptitude, apt-get, or kpackagekit
[05:56] <socceroos> Idiot, you can use a GUI to install programs
[05:56] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: sudo apt-get install "program name"
[05:56] <Idiot> What if I don't know the program's name?
[05:57] <raylu> Idiot: all 3 options i listed have searching capabilities. as does apt-cache
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: sudo apt-cache search "keyword"
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> that's what I use... all the GUIs are frontends for apt
[05:57] <raylu> apt-cache doesn't tell me if its installed, though :(
[05:57] <raylu> Captain_Haddock: all the clis are frontends for apt too :D
[05:58] <Idiot> *stares at the results of a search for "media player"*
[05:58] <Idiot> Uh... What am I looking at?
[05:58] <socceroos> a terminal
[05:58] <faileas> and apt is a front end for dpkg ;p
[05:58] <Captain_Haddock> raylu: I believe that there are a couple of extensions to apt which help
[05:58] <Idiot> Everything's for libxinel, or something.
[05:59] <socceroos> guys, perhaps show him how to use the gui?
[05:59] <raylu> faileas: no, apt uses dpkg. but the apt toolchain is not merely a frontend for dpkg
[05:59] <Idiot> Yeah, sorry. I have trouble reading jibberish.
[05:59] <Captain_Haddock> gibberish*
[05:59] <Idiot> Sure.
[05:59] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: it's a keyword search
[06:00] <raylu> Idiot: getting a list of media players isn't really possible. you'd have to ask a person about that
[06:00] <Captain_Haddock> you can refine it further ... or just use the GUI
[06:00] <robin0800__> Idiot: Kpackagekit is a GUI
[06:00] <Idiot> I suppose I just don't understand what its' telling me comes up, Cap'n.
[06:00] <Idiot> Alright, so how do I get this GUI installer up?
[06:00] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: all these packages on your screen have the keywords "media player" in their descriptions
[06:00] <socceroos> Go to the menu, then in the search box at the top, type: kpackage
[06:01] <socceroos> that should bring it up.
[06:01] <socceroos> idiot, tell me when you've got that done.
[06:01] <Idiot> The menu?
[06:02] <Captain_Haddock> "Start"
[06:02] <raylu> \=
[06:02] <socceroos> The big K down on the bottom left hand side of your screen
[06:02] <Idiot> Ah. -.-'
[06:02]  * raylu does not approve.
[06:02] <socceroos> there should be a search box at the top of the menu
[06:02] <Idiot> Yes, got it.
[06:02] <socceroos> now search for kpackage
[06:02] <Idiot> It's running.
[06:03] <socceroos> raylu: its a good idea not to overwhelm new users.
[06:03] <socceroos> excelent
[06:03] <socceroos> now, this tool will (through a gui) allow you to search for and install programs
[06:03] <Idiot> So let's say I want to play a game.
[06:03] <socceroos> it will also provide a description of what each program/package does.
[06:03] <Idiot> I assume I'll need WINE.
[06:04] <socceroos> if you want to play a windows game - yes
[06:04] <socceroos> the current versions of WINE will actually run quite a few windows games
[06:04] <Idiot> Let's hope.
[06:04] <Idiot> Alright, I've got a single result.
[06:05] <MushroomKingdom> Hello, I'm trying to install a 4 disk game to Wine
[06:05] <socceroos> excellent, i'm guessing that single result is 'wine'?
[06:05] <MushroomKingdom> But I am not able to remove the first disk when it asks for the second disk
[06:05] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: "not able to?"
[06:05] <Idiot> Yeah, that's right.
[06:05] <socceroos> raylu. wine isn't releasing the disk
[06:05] <Captain_Haddock> MushroomKingdom: try using the device manager
[06:06] <socceroos> raylu: have to force unmount of disk
[06:06] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: yes, it tells me that I am not allowed since the drive is in use
[06:06] <Idiot> I'm going to take a chance and try clicking on it.
[06:06] <MushroomKingdom> Device manager, yes I tried
[06:06] <Eveready> Windows 7 will feature XP mode
[06:06] <Eveready>   Vista skipped
[06:06] <socceroos> idiot, thats fine, you won't break anything
[06:06] <raylu> windows 7 premium, business, and ultimate will feature XP mode
[06:06] <socceroos> package management in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian is very robust.
[06:07] <Eveready> why not Linux mode? shhesh....
[06:07] <raylu> Eveready: that exists too. it's called vmware
[06:07] <faileas> raylu: professional, not premium
[06:07] <faileas> Eveready: cause they would muck it up ;p
[06:07] <Eveready> lol or wubi
[06:07] <raylu> faileas: oh
[06:07] <faileas> or virtualbox ;p
[06:07] <Captain_Haddock> kubuntu should just use synaptic :S
[06:07] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom, try this from the command line: sudo umount /media/cdrom -o force
[06:07] <Captain_Haddock> kpackagekit looks worse than adept :|
[06:07] <raylu> i was actually more comfortable with adept than synaptic
[06:08] <robin0800__> raylu: do you have a link for that?
[06:08] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, i'll try that thanks
[06:08] <raylu> and i've never even run kpackagekit
[06:08] <Captain_Haddock> I just did... *shudder*
[06:08] <socceroos> Idiot: how you going mate?
[06:08] <Idiot> I think I installed it.
[06:08] <Idiot> Can't say for sure.
[06:08] <raylu> robin0800__: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10229125-56.html
[06:08] <socceroos> ok, did it say it was downloading the package?
[06:08] <Idiot> Yeah, resolved some conflicts, had a nice progress bar, I approve.
[06:09] <raylu> robin0800__: wait..
[06:09] <socceroos> Idiot: then its done. thats how to install a program in Kubuntu
[06:09] <raylu> robin0800__: there. http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001258.html
[06:09] <Idiot> Not too bad, if I know what I'm looking for.
[06:09] <socceroos> Idiot: the easy way =D
[06:09] <Idiot> So, how does it work, now
[06:09] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: umount: invalid option -- 'o'
[06:09] <Idiot> I've got a game installed on a network folder.
[06:09] <Idiot> How do I access my Microsoft network and run the game?
[06:10] <socceroos> ok, for wine, if you just put the cd in your drive of the game you want to install, I'll show you the next bit.
[06:10] <raylu> socceroos, MushroomKingdom: mount -o force, umount -f
[06:10] <MushroomKingdom> oo
[06:10] <Idiot> Well, I don't really have the CD, I've been keeping it installed on a network folder.
[06:10] <raylu> guis... cds... such strange and ancient things.
[06:11] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: wont let me force it out
[06:11] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[06:11] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: how'd you umount?
[06:11] <MushroomKingdom> It's a legit CD
[06:11] <Idiot> Sorry, Ray, but I prefer my "high-tech" as an elaborately fancy GUI, as opposed to a black screen and blinking cursor.
[06:11] <raylu> Idiot: high-tech doens't make it better. it doesn't even mean anything. also, blinking cursors are annoying :P
[06:12] <socceroos> Idiot: thats fine - is your network folder on another computer?
[06:12] <Idiot> Well, it's an external hard drive that I've got connected to a desktop that shares it over the network.
[06:12] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: did that last command I gave work?
[06:13] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: It tells me the drive is busy, and wont do anything
[06:13] <socceroos> Idiot: ok, is that computer the one you're currently using or is it another computer on your same network?
[06:13] <Idiot> Ray, I was referring to all those TV shows/movies that make hacking look like a point and click process.
[06:13] <Idiot> Well, it's within five feet of my computer, but oh so far away.
[06:13] <raylu> indeed it is, thanks to windows networking
[06:13] <Idiot> So close and yet so digitally far.
[06:14] <Idiot> So, how do I connect to a windows network?
[06:14] <Idiot> And, Ray, please don't, like, hack me and overclock my processor to burn-out to prove how superior Linux is.
[06:15] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: that's strange that it gave you that with -f. consider making ISOs of all the cds first
[06:15] <socceroos> Idiot: ok
[06:15] <MushroomKingdom> I was thinking about that, I do have the iso's already on my computer. I just sudo mount -o /media/cdrom?
[06:15] <Idiot> So, how can I do this, socceroos?
[06:15] <socceroos> Idiot: go to start and open up 'dolphin' - its the icon that looks like a set of blue drawers
[06:16] <socceroos> dolphin is KDE's file manager
[06:16] <linux-hdtv_> I would not have believed it, but KDE 4.2 of Kubuntu is now frozen stiff because i started alarm-clock ...
[06:16] <socceroos> like the windows one you use to browse C:\
[06:16] <socceroos> tell me when you've got that open
[06:16] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: are you typing from another machine?
[06:16] <linux-hdtv_> If the Ehernet socket on the computer is blinking orange, what are the chances my ftp-upload is still going ?
[06:17] <linux-hdtv_> yes raylu
[06:17] <Idiot> Didn't see it, so I searched for it.
[06:17] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: have you tried ctrl+alt+f1 yet?
[06:17] <socceroos> Idiot, so its open now?
[06:17] <Idiot> Is that like putting 192.168.1.1 into a hacking program?
[06:17] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: to mount the isos? no
[06:18] <linux-hdtv_> raylu, i could log in there ...
[06:18] <Idiot> I've got something called "Kontact" open.
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: mount file.iso /media/cdrom1
[06:18] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: killall alarm-clock
[06:18] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: oh, ok I'll try
[06:18] <socceroos> Idiot: lol, thats like microsoft Outlook
[06:18] <socceroos> idiot: you dont need that =)
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: the mount point must exist before mounting and
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: that command will actually fail
[06:18] <Idiot> Yeah, I wondered.
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: but it'll tell you the additional flag you need to make it work. i can never remember what it is
[06:19] <raylu> socceroos: no, it doesn't fail all over itself
[06:19] <MushroomKingdom> rayly: thank you
[06:19] <Idiot> Okay, I don't see dolphin off-hand.
[06:19] <socceroos> Idiot: when you go to the start menu, it should be listed in your favourites
[06:19] <Idiot> Oh, yes.
[06:20] <Idiot> If only you'd told me to look for "file manager."
[06:20] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: should I sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1
[06:20] <socceroos> idiot: lol
[06:20] <socceroos> idiot: sorry, next time i'll remember =D
[06:20] <Idiot> I think I just realized something.
[06:20] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: yes
[06:21] <linux-hdtv_> thanks, raylu. it looks like gftp is still running (top).
[06:21] <socceroos> raylu: true - I use Kontact in my day job 24/7 - its rock solid in KDE 4.2.2
[06:21] <Idiot> I now know why people go to Linux: people just like to play elementary school teacher on IRC for fools like me.
[06:21] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: so, can you get back to the desktop now?
[06:21] <socceroos> Idiot: hahaha, not likely
[06:21] <linux-hdtv_> how ?
[06:21] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: ctrl+alt+f7
[06:21] <Idiot> So, with Dolphin up, now what?
[06:21] <socceroos> Idiot: now, down the side, click on network
[06:21] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: mount: can't find /media/cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:22] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: you didn't specify the iso you're mounting, then
[06:22] <Idiot> Yeah, got it.
[06:22] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: if you only specify one argument, it assumes it can find the other in one of those two files
[06:23] <socceroos> Idiot: now, it should give you an icon saying ;'samba shares'
[06:23] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I sent sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom1 but it wants a -o loop
[06:23] <socceroos> click on that
[06:23] <linux-hdtv_> ctrl-alt-f7 shows a completely black screen and a white skull as the mouse pointer.
[06:23] <Idiot> See it, yup.
[06:23] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: yeah. that's the flag :D
[06:23] <socceroos> ok
[06:23] <Idiot> Oh, alright.
[06:23] <socceroos> now, does it show your local 'WORKGROUP'
[06:23] <Idiot> There it is.
[06:23] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: strange... try f8.. and the other f keys too :P
[06:23] <Idiot> Well, it shows my workgroup, yeah.
[06:23] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: so I tried sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom1 -o and got nothing, and sudo mount -o file.iso /media/cdrom1 and got that
[06:23] <socceroos> Idiot: sweet, its working =)
[06:24] <Idiot> I'm actually clever enough to change my workgroup's name, believe it or not.
[06:24] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: er, where's the loop
[06:24] <socceroos> Idiot: lol, i can believe that - you're a windows guru - linux is different =)
[06:24] <linux-hdtv_> the skull is probably because i tried some key combinations, probably an app allowing to kill the window you click on with it.
[06:24] <linux-hdtv_> how can i stop the skull ?
[06:24] <Idiot> Different frightens me. That's why I'm Republican.
[06:25] <socceroos> Idiot: lol
[06:25] <Idiot> Alright.
[06:25] <Idiot> I've got a nice .exe file here.
[06:25] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I'm not entirely certain where I'm supposed to place it, and what exactly I'm doing.
[06:25] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: escape. xkill, i'm guessing?
[06:25] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: mount -o loop file.iso /media/cdrom1
[06:26] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: ah! That worked. Thank you.
[06:26] <Idiot> So, how do I kick this .exe's butt?
[06:26] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Day 5 of Linux today, going well so far :D
[06:26] <socceroos> Idiot, try clicking once on it
[06:26] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: now, you may have to do some screwy things for wine to treat them as cd drives
[06:26] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: something in winecfg... maybe...
[06:26] <socceroos> should then open it like any other windows program
[06:26] <kaist> how can I look up clamav virus definitions? Like for example : Trojan.Packed-142
[06:27] <Idiot> Eep! A pop-up window!
[06:27] <socceroos> what does the window say?
[06:27] <socceroos> Idiot: BTW, what game are you trying to install?
[06:27] <Idiot> It demands to know what I want to open it with.
[06:27] <Idiot> Not so much install as run.
[06:27] <Idiot> Neverwinter Nights.
[06:28] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: It seems good, the install is back on track. I was able to find the drive immediately and everything is running smooth
[06:28] <socceroos> ah, so - the network folder you're currently browsing is an already installed game on another computer?
[06:28] <Idiot> Right.
[06:28] <Idiot> And yes, it works (at least on Windows).
[06:28] <linux-hdtv_> xkill, probably. still the black screen is unexpected. and escape does not quit the skull cursor. for now i'm just happy gftp is finishing the job (3GB upload). thank you raylu.
[06:28] <socceroos> Idiot: you may have problems running this through WINE over the network............but we'll give it a go
[06:29] <socceroos> in that popup window
[06:29] <linux-hdtv_> ctrl-alt-f1-8 no different, ctrl-alt-f9 no effect
[06:29] <socceroos> type in 'wine' (without quotes) in that top bar and click on 'Remember this choice' down the bottom
[06:29] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: no problem. in tty1 (c+a+f1), you should be able to kill xkill if it's running. try pgrep -l kill
[06:30] <Idiot> Aww... It says "wine" not fouuuuund.... *whiny*
[06:31] <socceroos> hmmmmmm
[06:31] <linux-hdtv_> nothing
[06:31] <socceroos> ok, idiot, just try this for me: hit ALT+F2 and then in the little box that pops up, type: wine
[06:32] <MushroomKingdom> Uhh, for Idiot's problem.. Would it be possible to copy the game files and put them into Wine's C:\ drive and run it from there?
[06:32] <Idiot> It doesn't really do anything.
[06:32] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom, it certainly is an option - I wanna try run it over the network first though =)
[06:32] <Idiot> Doesn't find anything.
[06:33] <socceroos> Idiot: that would suggest it isn't properly installed
[06:33] <Idiot> Yeah.
[06:33] <socceroos> idiot: we're going to do something frightening here - open up........A TERMINAL
[06:33] <socceroos> *cue horror music*
[06:33] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: Hm, yeah that would be the better option. I found it hard to run things across Windows to Linux :(
[06:33] <Idiot> AUUUGHHH! *screams in horror*
[06:34] <MushroomKingdom> Pffft terminal. Terminal rocks :D
[06:34] <Idiot> It's open.
[06:34] <MushroomKingdom> it's where my IRC is
[06:34] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: Idiot, is new to linux - just starting slowly
[06:34] <faileas> socceroos: its called going down the rabbit hole ;p
[06:34] <socceroos> Idiot, ok, so
[06:34] <socceroos> type this: winecfg
[06:34] <socceroos> and hit enter
[06:35] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: I'm on day 5 :D
[06:35] <Idiot> My hobbies are drinking chlorox, bashing my head against a brick wall until it goes black, and trying to figure out Linux.
[06:35] <raylu> socceroos: ...wine isn't installed
[06:35] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: nice one =)
[06:35] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: Yep, after 15 years of Windows. Fully switched.
[06:35] <socceroos> raylu: I'm going to find out
[06:35] <Idiot> Command not found, socc.
[06:35] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: well done mate - not many can do that =)
[06:36] <socceroos> Idiot: ok, try this: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:36]  * faileas allegedly has a windows and a linux box at the moment. *notes one is on kubuntu, and the other on lxde ;p)
[06:36] <socceroos> you'll need to enter in your login pasword and hit enter
[06:36] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: i suspect something else is eating up the cpu
[06:37] <Idiot> Couldn't find package wine.
[06:37] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: :) It was time for a change, and a good change at that. Anywho, I've got a brand new problem. Wine won't let me in the C:\ drive D:
[06:37] <raylu> !info wine
[06:37] <raylu> universe isn't on by default
[06:37] <socceroos> raylu: ah
[06:37]  * svingzemeate <-- Grabs ticket #742 *doh!*... Yakuake vs. Jaunty ponderance.
[06:37] <raylu> which makes me wonder what Idiot saw when he thought he installed wine
[06:38] <socceroos> raylu: yeah
[06:38] <Idiot> Well, there was, like, a progress bar and stuff.
[06:38] <Idiot> It went from left to right.
[06:38] <Idiot> So I assumed that it did something.
[06:38] <elliottm> a reasonable assumption
[06:38] <MushroomKingdom> Hm, I'm still confused myself about the Universe and Multivserse. I have them enabled but I have no idea how
[06:39] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <MushroomKingdom> Hm, thats into terminal?
[06:39] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: no, that's where they're enabled
[06:39] <MushroomKingdom> Oh
[06:39] <socceroos> Idiot: basically it goes like this, we need to enable your installation of Kubuntu to access all of the packages that are available
[06:39] <MushroomKingdom> But, how did I magically enable them? :s
[06:39] <socceroos> idiot: its fairly simple to do
[06:40] <raylu> see, it's nice knowing what's going on in your system. the gui hides that and it's ok when you never need to know. in other words, perfect guis are nice
[06:40] <Idiot> Ahh, I see.
[06:40] <Wolfcastle> greetings ppl
[06:40] <Idiot> Well, I was running off a live CD. Guess I should have mentioned that.
[06:40] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: what do you use for your package management?
[06:40] <socceroos> Idiot.....................
[06:40] <socceroos> You're running of a live cd?????????
[06:40] <socceroos> =D lol
[06:40] <Idiot> ^.^; Sorry...
[06:40] <socceroos> thats fine dude - its just a bit funny
[06:41] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I did apt-get for everything
[06:41] <socceroos> games will run slow on a live CD
[06:41] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: hrm... maybe installing it enables universe, etc.
[06:41] <raylu> Idiot: and you'll have to reinstall
[06:41] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: So it's possible I enabled it by installing things?
[06:41] <MushroomKingdom> crazy
[06:41] <Idiot> So, what's the call on Windows 7's beta?
[06:41] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: no, installing kubuntu to disk
[06:42] <raylu> Idiot: more of the same
[06:42] <Idiot> Better than Vista?
[06:42] <socceroos> Idiot: a live cd doesn't actually install anything on your computer - you're just running everythin in RAM.
[06:42] <raylu> Idiot: "better" in the sense that they patched ugly crap up more
[06:42] <mefisto__> is there a kde scanner program? kooka seems to have been retired
[06:42] <raylu> Idiot: it's still annoying to use. UAC is less annoying about your own actions
[06:42] <socceroos> Idiot: so basically, you've been 'test driving' Kubuntu instead of running it off your computer.
[06:42] <Idiot> Am I the only one here who likes XP?
[06:42] <str1fe13> Windows 7 is better for the average Windows user than Vista/XP.  "Better" is relative :)
[06:43] <Idiot> Yeah, I guess I knew that, socc, just didn't enter the run command for brain power.
[06:43] <socceroos> idiot: I'll take XP any day over vista - but I'll take Ubuntu any day over XP.
[06:43] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: So by me making an iso of Kubuntu and installing it on my HDD I have Universe?
[06:43] <str1fe13> It all comes down to opinion i guess.
[06:43] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: what i mean is universe isn't enabled on the livecd
[06:43] <Idiot> I'm curious--what is it that you do on Linux that you wouldn't/couldn't do on XP?
[06:43] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: but when it installs, it updates the sources.list to include universe
[06:43] <raylu> Idiot: not use my mouse
[06:44] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Oh, yeah no i formatted my HDD for this
[06:44] <Idiot> Oh, well, congrats, I guess.
[06:44] <porky> this linux crap is not even working.
[06:44] <porky> i put the usb drive in. fail.
[06:44] <socceroos> Idiot: the advantage of linux is that - if you're motivated - you can get it to do anything you want
[06:44] <Idiot> I suppose... Though, really, XP does everything I want.
[06:45] <Idiot> Problem is an  increasing lack of driver support.
[06:45] <porky> there used to be a window that would ask me if i wanted to open my usb drive.  like 20 minits ago when i was using it.
[06:45] <porky> the linux crap is failing.
[06:45] <raylu> Idiot: so you switched to the OS with even less driver support :P
[06:45] <Idiot> Good point.
[06:45] <raylu> porky: so mount it manually :D
[06:45] <porky> i hate extra typing.
[06:45] <raylu> porky: i hate extra clicking
[06:45] <Idiot> Really, is there any option besides btt-rapeage by Vista?
[06:46] <porky> in windows you dont have to type anything to use the usb drive.  it just works.
[06:46] <raylu> btt = ?
[06:46] <porky> why is it linux stuff works only some of the time
[06:46] <socceroos> butt
[06:46] <raylu> porky: it always works for me. i can mount any usb drive. as a bonus, i don't have to deal with sandisk crap
[06:46] <raylu> porky: and "works" makes no sense, so "just works" is impossible.
[06:46] <Idiot> Yeah, my u-key just ignored me.
[06:46] <porky> whats sandisk ?
[06:46] <raylu> porky: nothing can "Just work" until it can read my mind
[06:46] <porky> well when i used to plug the usb drive it.
[06:46] <porky> it worked
[06:47] <raylu> porky: it's a particularly nasty brand of usb drive that runs some crap when you plug it in
[06:47] <porky> now it's not
[06:47] <socceroos> Idiot: if you want to seriously use Kubuntu - you'll need to install it on one of your computers
[06:47] <porky> im tired of this linux crap.
[06:47] <raylu> porky: no, it didn't "work," it did what you exepected
[06:47] <socceroos> porky, what the matter
[06:47] <porky> no im talking about kde asking me if i want to open it
[06:47] <raylu> porky: if it wasn't what you wanted (like it is for me), then it would have been broken
[06:47] <Idiot> Ah, but if it doens't work, of course, then I've got to reinstall vista, etc.
[06:48] <porky> how am i supposed to know which device in /dev is my usb drive ?
[06:48] <noaXess> good morning
[06:48] <socceroos> Idiot: you can install Kubuntu along side of vista
[06:48] <raylu> porky: sudo fdisk -l. or just guess. it's usually sdb1
[06:48] <socceroos> as in 'dual boot'
[06:48] <raylu> porky: if you only have one scsi drive
[06:48] <Idiot> It just seems astounding that y'all spend all the time that Linux requires just so you can... uh, what is it you do?
[06:48] <porky> usb is scsi ?
[06:48] <jschall> is there ANY way to make my mouse side buttons work as forward/back in konqueror? they work fine in firefox.
[06:48] <Idiot> Doesn't that require a seperate partition?
[06:48] <noaXess> i have a blocked update in my software updates: kde-style-qtcurve - 0.59.3-1ubuntu1
[06:49] <raylu> porky: no, but you only use one controller, i believe. also, ls -l /dev/disk*
[06:49] <noaXess> what to do with that?
[06:49] <noaXess> or how to install this blocked update? over konsole
[06:49] <jschall> Idiot: not necessarily, look up wubi. it works great and can be uninstalled from windows
[06:49] <MushroomKingdom> Where do I find my WINE C:\ folder from the root dir?
[06:49] <socceroos> Idiot, it does require a separate partition - but Kubuntu can do that for you - also, we 'linux' users do all the same kinds of things you do on XP, just normal stuff.
[06:49] <jschall> MushroomKingdom: /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[06:49] <porky> ugh more typing.
[06:49] <porky> i have work to do .
[06:50]  * porky puts the xp cd back in.
[06:50] <socceroos> Idiot: jschall's suggestion is good
[06:50] <Idiot> Well, on XP I do: internet browsing, video-watching, and game-playing.
[06:50] <Idiot> And that's about the extent of it, aside from some photoshop-raping.
[06:50] <socceroos> I would also recommend downloading and installing wubi - which will then install Kubuntu onto your windows machine like it was another program
[06:50] <Idiot> Wubi?
[06:51] <porky> wtf ?
[06:51] <socceroos> Idiot, thats what i do on linux
[06:51] <porky> ok now this linux crap really sucks.  i ran sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[06:51] <Idiot> Oh, what kind of games, socc?
[06:51] <porky> and i can see the contents via cd
[06:51] <porky> but konquror cant
[06:51] <porky> whats wrong with this linux crap.
[06:51] <raylu> porky: are you saying you don't have time to type?
[06:51] <porky> raylu: i mean extra typing.
[06:52] <socceroos> porky - if you want help then can I suggest being a bit less verbally animated?
[06:52] <jschall> porky: permissions are probably wrong.
[06:52] <porky> tf ?
[06:52] <svingzemeate> Anyone know of a simple fix for Yaquake hotkey(F12)? Just need to know how to get it working with Jaunty.
[06:52] <Rayner> what's up with ext4 in kubuntu jaunty, I thought it didn't work on kernels < 2.6.29
[06:53] <raylu> porky: and instead, you have time for extra clicking?
[06:53] <porky> yeah.
[06:53] <porky> what do you mean?
[06:53] <socceroos> Idiot: I play (on Ubuntu), WoW, BF1942, BF 2142, Counter Strike:Source and Oblivion
[06:53] <raylu> porky: because in some way, using the mouse is faster than using the keyboard?
[06:53] <Idiot> Never finished Oblivion.
[06:53] <raylu> porky: because it's easier to use a continous input device (the mouse) to do discrete operations
[06:53] <Idiot> Never tried WoW. I'm into Neverwinter Nights for the same thing.
[06:53] <raylu> porky: than a discrete input device (the keyboard)?
[06:53] <porky> what happend to i stick my usb drive in.  kde opens it.
[06:53] <socceroos> Idiot: yeah me neither - i keep getting distracted on side quests.
[06:53] <Idiot> Neverwinter Nights has elements of being an MMORPG, but it's more roleplay-oriented.
[06:54] <porky> windows had the usb drive figured out years ago.  is linux still working on it?  is it a bug in the kernal?
[06:54] <raylu> porky: no, but you don't have it figured out
[06:54] <raylu> porky: and you are blaming it on your software
[06:54] <porky> what happend to i stick my usb drive in.  kde opens it.
[06:55] <porky> it worked 20 mintis ago like that
[06:55] <porky> and yesterday
[06:55] <raylu> porky: did you upgrade to 9.04 since then?
[06:55] <porky> no
[06:55] <raylu> porky: there might be an icon in your panel for recnetly plugged in devices
[06:55] <raylu> porky: i wouldn't know since i removed it
[06:55] <lolipop_> Hi, when i perform a uname -a on 9.04, i can see the "#42-Ubuntu SMP Fri", how can i change that Ubuntu to something else
[06:55] <socceroos> Porky, when you last used your usb drive, did you ask KDE to 'unmount' it or did you just pull it out?
[06:55] <porky> upgrading made my wireless NOT work
[06:55] <raylu> porky: then just mount the device
[06:55] <porky> i just pulled it out, becuase in windows you can just pull it out.
[06:56] <raylu> lolipop_: that's an option set when compiling the kernel... so you can't
[06:56] <raylu> lolipop_: unless you want to roll your own kernel
[06:56] <Idiot> *snickes at socc's suggestive question*
[06:56] <Idiot> Though I assume that WINE has trouble with newer games.
[06:56] <socceroos> Porky, even in windows you can't just pull it out - while Windows makes it look like you're doing no harm - each time you do that, you corrupt the filesystem on the device.
[06:56] <Idiot> i.e., Mass Effect, Fallout 3, Crysis...
[06:57] <raylu> so do most cpus on that last one :P
[06:57] <porky> socceroos. so how would you unmount it on windows.
[06:57] <Idiot> There IS a "safely remove device" thing in Windows.
[06:57] <raylu> porky: "safely" remove device
[06:57] <lolipop_> raylu: i see, for now, my hostname is lolipop, but when i ping it from other machine, my hostname is ubuntu.myLANdomain.com
[06:57] <socceroos> Idiot, WINE is still getting support for DirectX 10, but just to note, WINE actually works better with newer games than with older ones.
[06:57] <raylu> lolipop_: oh. that has nothing to do with it :P
[06:57] <raylu> lolipop_: cat /etc/hostname
[06:57] <socceroos> Idiot: true, that does the same as the 'unmount' in KDE.
[06:58] <lolipop_> raylu: yeah, its lolipop inside
[06:58] <Idiot> on the taskbar is an icon you click, then select your USB drive
[06:58] <fag> now how do i make my wireless work?
[06:58] <raylu> lolipop_: also... what os is the other machine? why is it reverse dns-ing your machine's name during a ping?
[06:58] <mefisto__> it doesn't "corrupt the filesystem on the device" every time. It's just that you run the risk of that every time you do it. eventually, it's gonna happen
[06:58] <str1fe13> Good evening, quick simple question I hope - On a fresh install of Kubuntu Jaunty, what would be ideal sizes of /, /home, and /boot partitions on a 160gb drive? First time installing/using Linux.
[06:58] <fag> when i ran a bunch of upgrades, it screwed with my kernel. and now wireless doesent work.
[06:58] <Idiot> It's got a little green arrow and a gray thing.
[06:58] <raylu> str1fe13: swap?
[06:59] <fag> my wireless works on a fresh installation of intrepid.
[06:59] <str1fe13> swap is 2gb matching my ram.
[06:59] <fag> via kdenetworkmanager
[06:59] <raylu> str1fe13: you can spend 10-100MB on /boot. dividing the other two up is sort of up to you
[06:59] <noaXess> i have a blocked update: kde-style-qtcurve
[06:59] <lolipop_> raylu: i have a m0n0-wall router in my LAN
[06:59] <socceroos> mefisto__: it will only break the filesystem if a write is in progress - but each time you do it then it will still corrupt the Log for the partition.
[07:00] <noaXess> if i do a : sudo apt-get install kde-style-qtcurve then i get: kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig will be removed..
[07:00] <raylu> noaXess: because the two conflict with each other
[07:00] <raylu> noaXess: aptitude show kde-style-qtcurve
[07:00] <noaXess> raylu: ok.. an now? install kde.style-qtcurve?
[07:01] <raylu> noaXess: if you don't want kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig, then sure.
[07:01] <str1fe13> raylu: how about this then...how necessary is a separate boot partition?
[07:01] <Idiot> Socc, what did you like about about linux when you first started?
[07:01] <raylu> str1fe13: not. but some people like to not have it mounted
[07:01] <raylu> str1fe13: also, it's very useful if you have multiple OSs
[07:02] <fag> why is it in windows you can resize you rpartition with out a boot disk, but in linux you can resize mounted partitions?
[07:02] <raylu> str1fe13: splitting up / and /home isn't necessary either unless you plan to reinstall linux. or have multiple OSs, again
[07:02] <socceroos> Idiot: I was interested in Linux to begin with because i found windows far to restrictive
[07:02] <fag> err can't
[07:02] <fag> err let me repharse
[07:02] <socceroos> I wanted to explore the world of software and Windows just held me back.
[07:02] <fag> why is it in windows you can resize your partition without a boot disk, but in linux you cant resize mounted partitions?
[07:02] <raylu> fag: how can you resize your partition while it's mounted in windows? i dont' believe that
[07:02] <Idiot> Ahh. You know, I can't say I've ever thought in Windows, "damn, I wish I could do this, but I just can't." Maybe I've used Windows too long/don't think open-mindedly enough.
[07:03] <raylu> fag: through a bit of work it's possible in linux, though
[07:03] <socceroos> Idiot: it completely depends on what you want to do
[07:03] <Idiot> Well, if it's got uTorrent and can run .exes, I'm fairly satisfied.
[07:03] <raylu> socceroos: i disagree. it completely depends on whether you want to do what you want to do or you're just happy with what the developers of your software wanted to do
[07:03] <str1fe13> raylu: so basically for a first linux install having swap its own partition and everything else on the remaining 158gb is perfectly fine?  I don't plan on using other OSes on the computer I'm installing Kubuntu on, or reinstalling any time soon.
[07:03] <fag> thinking open minded is nice, but redundancy sucks.  linux makes everything harder.
[07:04] <socceroos> for example, you would find it hard to turn your Windows XP machine into a fully functional Primary Domain Controller for an enterprise network, but I could do that right now if i wanted to on my linux box  - its just so flexible.
[07:04] <mefisto__> Idiot: in windows I'm constantly thinking "I wish I could select and middleclick to copy/paste"
[07:04] <raylu> str1fe13: yep. and that's why it's the default the installer uses
[07:04] <daskreech> str1fe13: I'd make a /home
[07:04] <Idiot> Really? Huh.
[07:04] <Idiot> I never would have even thought to do that, mefisto.
[07:04] <raylu> fag: that's the price for making everything possible
[07:04] <daskreech> Idiot: you'll miss it on'ceit's gone
[07:04] <Idiot> I use it already to navigate the webbie.
[07:05] <fag> when im in windows am always like, damn i wish i could program raw sockets.
[07:05] <socceroos> mefisto__:  I must say, I love the middle click copy too! =)
[07:05] <daskreech> fag: Redundancy isn't athat bad
[07:05] <Idiot> Once what is? uTorrent, dask?
[07:05] <noaXess> raylu: which of the two package should i leave in the system: kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig or kde-style-qtcurve?
[07:05] <raylu> daskreech: why make a /home if you don't plan to install other OSs?
[07:05] <raylu> noaXess: that depends on which you want
[07:05] <Idiot> CTRL+C always satisfied me, personally. xD
[07:05] <raylu> noaXess: i don't even know what qtcurve is :P
[07:05] <daskreech> raylu: you will
[07:06] <noaXess> raylu: ok :)
[07:06] <raylu> Idiot: the mentaility about select = copy is: why would you highlight if you weren't copying?
[07:06] <mefisto__> Idiot: that was kind of my point. if you don't know you can do it, you'll probably never want to. another one is middle-clicking or right-clicking the maximize button to maximize vertically or horizontally
[07:06] <raylu> daskreech: yeah, i've come to realize that too. but he said he wasn't planning on it, so...
[07:06] <Idiot> Maybe I was highlighting because some idiot used hard-to-see colors, raylu. :p
[07:06] <raylu> mefisto__: actually, that exists in windows 7 when you drag to the side of the desktop. on the other hand placing windows on the side is now a pain
[07:07] <daskreech> raylu: More useful then. Means he'll build up a lot of data that he will want to save before he hits a reinstall time
[07:07] <raylu> Idiot: ah. it doesn't do it automatically in firefox, i think.
[07:07] <Idiot> Interesing, mefisto...
[07:07] <daskreech> assuming str1fe13 is a he :)
[07:07] <raylu> daskreech: yep :D
[07:08] <str1fe13> daskreech: I'm installing Kubuntu on basically a throwaway laptop.  It's not even my primary computer by any means, everything important I do on my desktop
[07:08] <str1fe13> this is mostly for experimentation/fun
[07:08] <daskreech> str1fe13: do what you want then. Experiment till your eyes cross and your fingers gnarl
[07:09] <socceroos> Idiot: I'm out for a while, gotta get some work done =) Hope it all goes well mate!
[07:09] <Idiot> So, to all you Linux-peoples, do tell: which is worse: XP or the latest MacOS?
[07:09] <Idiot> Thanks for the help, socc.
[07:09] <rufong> str1: have fun, tink i'm gonna play with xfce later on, 9.04 stable so time to install something over 8.04
[07:09] <raylu> Idiot: any mac os
[07:09] <Idiot> Youch, raylu.
[07:09] <svingzemeate> Ello all, anyone know of a fix for Yaquake hotkey(F12)? Just need to know how to get it working with Jaunty.
[07:09] <Idiot> That's a low blow.
[07:10] <str1fe13> daskreech: I'm not sure about fingers gnarling, just wanted to get a feel of the purpose of various partitions and how I should organize them for trying out Linux
[07:10] <daskreech> !ot
[07:10] <str1fe13> I'm probably going to be using this laptop to take notes in class, but nothing incredibly major
[07:10] <daskreech> str1fe13: In general any area that might need it's own management gets it's own parittion
[07:10] <raylu> str1fe13: make sure to turn off the login/logout/etc sounds :D
[07:10] <Wolfcastle> I get a message saying my mplayer is old and will not work well with smplayer
[07:10] <Idiot> Why MacOS > XP?
[07:11] <Wolfcastle> Is there a way to update mplayer?
[07:11] <raylu> Idiot: er, you asked which is worse.
[07:11] <daskreech> Wolfcastle: What release of Kubuntu are you using ?
[07:11] <Idiot> Oh.
[07:11] <Wolfcastle> daskreech: jaunty
[07:11] <Idiot> I knew that.
[07:11] <str1fe13> Idiot: Mac/Windows/Linux is a silly argument, it all comes down to a person's preferences in the long run.  All 3 have their advantages and disadvantages for each user.
[07:11] <Idiot> Yeah, Mac sucks!
[07:11] <daskreech> Wolfcastle: should be pretty up to date
[07:12] <Idiot> I still take some slight snooty pride in pissing on Mac.
[07:12] <Idiot> Electrocution hurts, though.
[07:12] <daskreech> Idiot: can you take that discussion to offtopic ?
[07:13] <Idiot> Which discussion? I can give it a try. : p
[07:13] <daskreech> The whole windows versus linux verus Mac
[07:13] <Wolfcastle> daskreech: I don't know, it's version 1.0rc2 and according to the official page it's outdated
[07:13] <Idiot> Versus etch-a-sketch.
[07:14] <Idiot> etch-a-sketch = best OS ever
[07:14] <Idiot> Nothing you can't do.
[07:14] <raylu> Idiot: you can't shake it
[07:14] <str1fe13> Alright, last question.  Say I put / and /home on separate partitions as suggested...which should be bigger than the other, very generally?
[07:14] <Idiot> Well, you CAN, it's just not great.
[07:14] <raylu> str1fe13: /home, in my case
[07:14] <daskreech> str1fe13: /home
[07:15] <daskreech> str1fe13: By a fair amount
[07:15] <raylu> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:15] <raylu> /dev/sda6              14G  4.4G  8.9G  34% /
[07:15] <str1fe13> Alrighty, making / 20gb and the other 135gb /home then, I spose.
[07:15] <str1fe13> I'll be back if something catches fire.  Thanks for all the help!
[07:15] <daskreech> str1fe13: 20GB is huge
[07:16] <str1fe13> :S
[07:16] <daskreech> I have / as 7 Gb
[07:16] <daskreech>  I've never come close to filling it
[07:16] <str1fe13> hmm
[07:16] <daskreech> 10GB is probably more than you will ever need
[07:16] <raylu> daskreech: i can totally imagine str1fe13 installing *ubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <str1fe13> :s
[07:16] <daskreech> unles you are installing all the desktops
[07:16] <raylu> in which case your menus get filled with crap :D
[07:17] <daskreech> then 15 GB is overkill but safe
[07:17] <Idiot> If you're tech-savvy and you know it, say "I am"
[07:17] <str1fe13> no, im just going with basic kubuntu install, with a few apps here and there if I'm unhappy with the defaults.
[07:18] <daskreech> str1fe13: 10GB
[07:18] <daskreech> you can grow it later if needed
[07:18] <str1fe13> I don't really picture myself installing much more than firefox, codecs and drivers, and perhaps a games pack for killing time though
[07:18] <Idiot> I guess no "I ams"?
[07:19] <str1fe13> *nod* I'll just make it 8gb for the time being, since that's about what's left over if i make /home 150
[07:20] <str1fe13> i think thats all i need then unless something catches on fire
[07:21] <Idiot> Or someONE.
[07:22] <Idiot> or worse, someWHERE.
[07:24] <Idiot> Anyone else tired?
[07:24] <str1fe13> I've consumed way too many Jones Sodas to be tired.
[07:24] <Idiot> I've eaten about twenty cups of peanuts.
[07:25] <Idiot> I'm pretty not-so-good-feeling.
[07:25] <Idiot> Anyway, I'm off. Thanks for helping me to dick around with Linux, everyone.
[07:36] <digdeep> does anyone has problem to watch youtube. I can watch it, but there is no sound
[07:38] <cece__> i tried to install ku9.04 on my pc with flashdisk ,but when i can't use my keyboard when it came to log on window
[07:38] <jschall> how can i make kwin run with an environment variable?
[07:39] <raylu> cece__: can you log in to a tty? (ctrl+alt+f1)?
[07:39] <cece__> yes
[07:40] <cece__> but with the alternate iso
[07:40] <cece__> with the desktop.iso ,it doesn't work out
[07:41] <AaNnAa> hi2all
[07:42] <daskreech> hi2AaNnAa
[07:43] <MushroomKingdom> Ugh, So WINE won't recognise my CD. I can't play a game now because of this. Any one have any ideas of getting this to work?
[07:43] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: winecfg, change what counts as a cd
[07:44] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: more likely, there's some drm on it. securom, etc.
[07:44] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Just configure wine or is there an actual program?
[07:44] <raylu> jschall: you could change your login type in kdm to .xsession and write your own .xsession... but there's probably an easier way
[07:45] <raylu> jschall: oh, ~/.kde/env
[07:45] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: "winecfg"
[07:46] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I can't find it
[07:46] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: er... it should come with wine. just run it
[07:47] <str1fe13> righto then
[07:47] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Ok, got it. Uh, what exactly am I changing?
[07:47] <str1fe13> i was not expecting that install to only take 15 minutes.  but im not arguing. :D
[07:47] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Can I set it to read .iso files?
[07:47] <daskreech> str1fe13: Guess how much software it installed :)
[07:48] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: no... you have to mount them
[07:48] <str1fe13> everything that's on the live cd.
[07:48] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: you're adding the mount points of your iso files to the list of cd drives
[07:48] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: What about if the .iso is on a cd?
[07:48] <str1fe13> i'm IRCing from linux on my hard drive now.  that's a lot of stuff in not a lot of time.
[07:48] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: ok
[07:48] <daskreech> str1fe13: No installation of Office software or anything needed afterwards :) nice :)
[07:48] <Captain_Haddock> !nvidia
[07:48] <str1fe13> im pretty sure my windows install took a few hours at least
[07:49] <str1fe13> and that was just windows.
[07:49] <daskreech> str1fe13: A few days
[07:49] <str1fe13> dasrreech: aw, it wasnt that bad:p
[07:50] <daskreech> str1fe13: how long did it take to do anti virus installs and spyware checkers and Office stuff and tools so that the computer was usable ?
[07:50] <daskreech> You can say it
[07:50] <daskreech> Days :)
[07:51] <raylu> anti-virus... spyware... i don't have either of those on windows
[07:51] <elliottm> i never install antibirus and stuff
[07:51] <raylu> but i have clamav on linux... :P
[07:51] <str1fe13> i still don't have office tools on my windows install haha, that's what google docs is for.
[07:51] <str1fe13> I'd guess that installing windows and all components to make it usable took almost all of a saturday.
[07:52] <str1fe13> once i got my games and misc software on, that was a multiple-day deal in the end, but eh
[07:52] <str1fe13> i still like this better
[07:53] <Captain_Haddock> anyone know where I can edit the driver *version* for the nvidia driver? I can't start X now because of a driver mismatch
[07:53] <daskreech> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <Captain_Haddock> daskreech: that just specifies "nvidia" and not the version of the driver
[07:53] <Captain_Haddock> X complains that I have 1.77 in some places and 1.80 elsewhere
[07:53] <daskreech> Captain_Haddock: Oh that's in your modules
[07:54] <daskreech> happy hunting :)
[07:54] <Captain_Haddock> daskreech: where would that be? :P
[07:54] <Captain_Haddock> it isn't in the X11 directory from what I can tell
[07:54] <daskreech> It won't be
[07:55] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I still can't seem to get the game running. It wont even open when I click on the .exe in the cd
[07:56] <Captain_Haddock> is there a commandline equivalent for jockey?
[07:58] <daskreech> what does jockey do again?
[07:59] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: run it in the terminal. wine gives quite a bit of output
[07:59] <raylu> !find jockey
[07:59] <mefisto__> MushroomKingdom: what's the game? can you find it here: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:59] <raylu> !find jockey-kde
[07:59] <raylu> !info jockey-kde
[07:59] <raylu> that was not enlightening.
[08:00] <daskreech> Ah umm not sure it would be needed on the command line
[08:00] <mefisto__> jockey is "hardware drivers" in the system submenu
[08:01] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I don't quite follow
[08:01] <MushroomKingdom> mefisto_: Myst III exile
[08:02] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: run the executable in the terminal. "wine file.exe"
[08:02] <MushroomKingdom> ok
[08:04] <labele1> ciao
[08:05] <labele1> come  faccio a sapere che qualcuno mi legge?
[08:05] <raylu> !it | labele1
[08:06] <mefisto__> MushroomKingdom: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1820
[08:07] <MushroomKingdom> mefisto__: ah, ok. Grabbing the nocd now
[08:07] <labele1> hi room
[08:07] <str1fe13> Is there not a simple terminal command to install flash, java, and all that other miscellaneous good stuff in one fell swoop?  I seem to remember seeing it somewhere.
[08:11] <daskreech> !info smplayer
[08:11] <gigasoft> i have problem with screen drivers, mu screen works at 50 hz, is any way to inpruve it
[08:11] <mefisto__> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:11] <gigasoft> (mu english is not so good, sorry :( )
[08:12] <mefisto__> str1fe13: I think kubuntu-restricted-extras might be what you're looking for
[08:12] <daskreech> gigasoft: Which language do you prefer?
[08:12] <gigasoft> montenegrian
[08:13] <gigasoft> any help with mu refresh rate?
[08:13] <daskreech> !me
[08:13] <daskreech> Ha
[08:13] <raylu> heh
[08:14] <daskreech> gigasoft: you can set it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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[08:14] <daskreech> gigasoft: You want it to work at 50hz ?
[08:15] <gigasoft> daskreech> no at higher rate
[08:15] <daskreech> Which rate?
[08:15] <gigasoft> 75 hz
[08:15] <daskreech> and it is at 50hz now ?
[08:15] <gigasoft> :(
[08:15] <gigasoft> yes
[08:16] <daskreech> ok pastebin the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:16] <str1fe13> thank you, though that one didnt seem to get flash
[08:16] <daskreech> str1fe13: It should
[08:16] <str1fe13> just must not have seen it then.
[08:16] <str1fe13> going to try youtube...
[08:17] <str1fe13> yeah, youtube videos won't load.
[08:18] <raylu> !info flashplugin-installer
[08:18] <str1fe13> there we go
[08:18] <str1fe13> danke
[08:18] <gigasoft> daskreech: so what to change
[08:19] <raylu> kubuntu-restricted-extras actually pulled in flashplugin-installer for me, but upgrading firefox broke it so i had to reinstall. i don't think that should be a problem for you on a clean install, though
[08:22] <herman> When you use konversation, how do you find the list of chat rooms that you saved?
[08:23] <daskreech> that you saved?
[08:24] <herman> After it shows me all of the chat rooms it asked me if I want to save list. I clicked yes.
[08:29] <raylu> herman: it just gets saved to a text file
[08:31] <herman> Thank you
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[08:38] <herman> I found the list I saved in the document folder.
[08:42] <herman> Is there a easy way to enable my usb ports on ubuntu 9:04. I googled the problem and noticed a lot of people have the same problem
[08:42] <raylu> "enable?"
[08:43] <herman> I have three usb ports that do not work
[08:44] <herman> It does recognize my sd card slot
[08:46] <raylu> what are you plugging in?
[08:47] <herman> Flash drive
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> herman: run.   sudo fdisk -l
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> herman: does the partition show in that output?
[08:51] <herman> yes it does show
[08:52] <raylu> then this isn't a problem with the usb drives
[08:53] <raylu> just mount it :D
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> herman: your usb is "enabled" then isnt it
[08:54] <herman> When i typed in fdisk -1 it said invalid option
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> herman: its ell not one
[08:55] <raylu> ...?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> herman: we want to list the partitions, list starts with l, sudo fdisk -l
[08:57] <herman> It shows 3 partitions
[08:58] <herman> linux, extended and swap
[08:59] <herman> sda 1, sda 2 and sda 5.
[09:00] <raylu> sounds like a legitimate issue then. could you pastebin: ls -l /dev/disk/*
[09:00] <raylu> also, lspci -v
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> herman: does it show a device in lsusb
[09:04] <raylu> oh yeah... lsusb...
[09:08] <herman> 13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 10)
[09:08] <herman>         Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 009f
[09:08] <herman>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
[09:09] <herman>         Memory at c0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
[09:09] <herman>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[09:09] <herman>         Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
[09:10] <herman> it lists 3 usb controllers that all say the same
[09:10] <raylu> hrm. no idea.
[09:10] <raylu> could you pastebin ls -l /dev/disk/*
[09:10] <raylu> but lsusb would be more useful, so show us that fist
[09:10] <raylu> *first
[09:11] <herman> ok
[09:12] <herman> herman@ubuntuherman:~$  lsusb
[09:12] <herman> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:12] <herman> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:12] <herman> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> herman: use pastebin please
[09:14] <herman> herman@ubuntuherman:~$  ls -l /dev/disk/*
[09:14] <herman> /dev/disk/by-id:
[09:14] <herman> total 0
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB -> ../../sda
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part1 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part2 -> ../../sda2
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part5 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB -> ../../sda
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part1 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part2 -> ../../sda2
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part5 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> /dev/disk/by-path:
[09:14] <herman> total 0
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> ../../sda
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 -> ../../sda2
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part5 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0 -> ../../sr0
[09:14] <herman> /dev/disk/by-uuid:
[09:14] <herman> total 0
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 310091a6-28f1-4125-9c4a-7bc07c873775 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 34ea9e20-e919-4070-9def-3841dcb49591 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> herman@ubuntuherman:~$
[09:18] <skierpage> Konqueror 4.2.2 in Kubuntu 9.04 installed flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree, and I installed libxine1-ffmpeg , but Flash movies are silent.  I'm not sure what I'm missing.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror
[09:24] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1 I had to do scan for new Plugins to get Flash movies to play.  Now they play but no sound.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-10/msg00177.html
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: and try: sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[09:28] <herman> I have to learn how to use pastebin
[09:29] <ian__> hello?
[09:34] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1, "Package libflashsupport is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[09:34] <skierpage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=libflashsupport agrees it's not available for Jaunty
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: hmm, did the other link work?
[09:36] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1, I'll try "alsa-oss" ...
[09:37] <Sarasvati> hello
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> howdy
[09:44] <MushroomKingdom> Hello, I need to extract an .ace file but ARK doesn't recognise it.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> MushroomKingdom: sudo apt-get install unace
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> MushroomKingdom: and sudo apt-get install unace-nonfree
[09:45] <drbobb> hey, in jaunty the mouse wheel can be used to scroll a file displayed by `less' in a konsole - neat :)
[09:45] <MushroomKingdom> Thank you
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> MushroomKingdom: i think ark may now know how to manage them, if not, man ace will show how
[09:48] <MushroomKingdom> kk
[09:50] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1, I installed alsa-oss, it didn't help.  Maybe it's an issue with 32-bit/64-bit flash player
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: well you should really only have 1 flashplugin installed
[09:56] <skierpage> I only have one /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so , it's 32-bit .  I'm on x64 Kubuntu
[09:56] <skierpage> ah well, I'll try some more tomorrow.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: you could try the native 64bit one, some people have had success with it
[09:58] <trylik> hi i started a session in "failsafe" or "safe" mode , how can i "maximize" web browser windows to whole screen?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> trylik: F11
[10:00] <trylik> it doesnt work, try yourself
[10:01] <vegas513> so is there a way to go from Qt 4.5 down to an older version?  9.04 came with 4.5 and it is causing video issues for me
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> trylik: maybe safemode removes that feature
[10:02] <trylik> i think so, but somehow difernet windows have different sizes... ActionParsnip1
[10:16] <trylik> is there any way to block right click in kde4?
[10:18] <daskreech> kiosk
[10:19] <afief> Why doesn't pidgin join the kde sys-tray? it does in gnome
[10:24] <Mamarok> afief: because it's not a KDE app?
[10:25] <afief> Mamarok: isn't the system tray a freedekstop.org standard?
[10:25] <afief> Mamarok: it used to work fine in 8.10
[10:25] <Mamarok> hm, if it worked in 8.10 it should still work then
[10:26] <afief> doesn't on my machine, I did a clean install a few hours ago
[10:28] <afief> Mamarok: perhaps you could give it? if you confirm it I'll send a bug report on launchpad
[10:29] <Mamarok> afief: wait, downloading Pidgin (I use Irssi by default)
[10:29] <Mamarok> afief: also, there is Quassel in kde 4.2 now...
[10:29] <drbobb> afief: systray is not used by pidgin by default
[10:29] <drbobb> afief: if you want it in the systray, there's an option for it in pidgin's setup, it works fine with kde's systray
[10:29] <drbobb> but you need to activate it cause it defaults to off
[10:30] <Mamarok> drbobb: thx :)
[10:30]  * Mamarok doesn't download Pidgin then :)
[10:32] <afief> Mamarok: E: Couldn't find package Quassel
[10:33] <bazhang> !info quassel
[10:33] <afief> drbobb: thanks, weird though it seems this option was always the default(at least since dapper)
[10:49] <drbobb> pidgin is cooperating with the kde systray quite fine on my system
[10:49] <drbobb> and yes, the systray api is an open standard, kde/gnome/other apps can interoperate
[10:50] <drbobb> otoh QuasselIRC is crap
[10:50] <drbobb> well, highly immature - tu put it more kindly
[10:51] <adasz> how can i add and user to an group?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> hello
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> werd
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> plz aswer me
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> werd
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> ???
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> werd = hi
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> wassup?
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> piben
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> wkwkkwkw
[11:28] <myloving_ubuntu> why i ship ubuntu but never come to my home
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> english please
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> do you mean shippit?
[11:28] <myloving_ubuntu> y
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> it'll be as long as it'll be
[11:29] <myloving_ubuntu> it has been 2month
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> mine took that long (UK here)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> plus there is a huge demand for disks due to the recent new release
[11:29] <myloving_ubuntu> :-/
[11:30] <myloving_ubuntu> :-X
[11:30] <myloving_ubuntu> ??
[11:30] <giuseppe__> hello
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> myloving_ubuntu: what?
[11:30] <myloving_ubuntu> ?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> myloving_ubuntu: 2 smileys isnt a question. do you have another support question?
[11:31] <myloving_ubuntu> no
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> myloving_ubuntu: why not upgrade via www
[11:54] <reisi> any ideas where could I find some ubuntu-kernel maintainers from the irc? i think i've found an usb regression from 2.6.24 -> 2.6.28, no ideas though how to further investigate
[12:03] <kjcole> I recently went from Hardy to Intrepid.  Now the KDE desktop is slightly offset to the right, and the right edge of the screen appears on the left.  Starting a session in Gnome doesn't have that problem.
[12:04] <kjcole> Suggestions?  (I can see the screen shift after logging in, while KDE's splash screen is showing the various initializing icons.)
[12:08] <mehrab> is there any guide for connecting a wired connection through plasma widget network manager?
[12:13] <kjcole> I recently went from Hardy to Intrepid.  Now the KDE desktop is slightly offset to the right, and the right edge of the screen appears on the left.  Starting a session in Gnome doesn't have that problem.
[12:13] <kjcole> Suggestions?  (I can see the screen shift after logging in, while KDE's splash screen is showing the various initializing icons.)
[12:21] <domker> i have no sound in flash plugin :/ How to fix it? (clean install Kubuntu 9.04)
[12:24] <domker> i have no sound in flash plugin :/ How to fix it?
[12:26] <noaXess> !backup
[12:28] <millun> hi i am wondering how to change my resolution
[12:28] <millun> nvidia
[12:28] <millun> it won't allow me to choose 1680x1050
[12:28] <millun> sure i've put it in xorg.conf
[12:28] <millun> also edited vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[12:29] <millun> acer p224w + nvidia gf 5500fx
[12:29] <dwidmann> millun: so it won't let you do it with nvidia-settings?
[12:29] <millun> nope
[12:31] <dwidmann> millun, hmm, just a second then, I'll see if I can come up with something
[12:31] <millun> that'd be awesome dwidmann
[12:42] <dwidmann> millun: Okay, we're going to edit your xorg.conf, so "kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf", then scroll down to "Section "Monitor""
[12:44] <afeijo> I updated to 8.10 last night, kate worked fine, but now it dont open, and on the konsole a lot of errors shows up.  I removed it and installed again with apt-get, but the problem remains
[12:44] <dwidmann> Add a line - HorizSync 30-81
[12:44] <dwidmann> millun: then aanother line, VertRefresh 56-75
[12:44] <dwidmann> millun: before restarting X though, I'm going to verify that they're okay
[12:46] <dwidmann> millun: crap, that was my other monitor
[12:46] <dwidmann> millun: (one of mine is 1680x1050x60)
[12:49] <dwidmann> :( ctrl+alt+bksp doesn't work
[12:50] <Pici> !dontzap | dwidmann
[12:50] <afeijo> I updated to 8.10 last night, kate worked fine, but now it dont open, and on the konsole a lot of errors shows up.  I removed it and installed again with apt-get, but the problem remains
[12:51] <dwidmann> Pici: hmm, still doesn't seem to be working
[12:51] <Pici> dwidmann: Ironically, you need to restart X once for ctrl-alt-backspace to work :/
[12:52] <dwidmann> Pici: ah, that explains
[12:52] <afeijo> damn, it still dont run dvd movie disks :(
[12:53] <schlumpf> hi
[12:56] <schlumpf> i've question ... how can i get help ?
[13:02] <domker> no audio in flash. Someone can help me?
[13:04] <ikonia> domker: all flash sites or just specifics
[13:04] <domker> ikonia: all websites with video flash players
[13:06] <ikonia> domker: how did you install flash ?
[13:07] <comedit> I am not able to to acitvate wireless through networkapplet
[13:08] <comedit> There is a tickbox enable wireless but it is not responding
[13:08] <comedit> anybody a clue what could be wrong
[13:12] <jwoko> halo??
[13:21] <domker_> ikonia: sorry, my ISP has disabled the internet for a while.
[13:21] <ikonia> no problem
[13:22] <domker_> ikonia: so, how i fix problem with no sound in flashplugin
[13:22] <domker_> ?
[13:22] <ikonia> domker_: how did you install flash ?
[13:22] <domker_> ikonia: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[13:22] <tyfon> install kubuntu-restricted-extras and you get flash/java etc
[13:23] <ikonia> domker_: did you not install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[13:24] <domker_> ikonia: I tried to install flash-nonfree, adobe-flash etc.. - the same problem
[13:24] <ikonia> domker_: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" exactly like that
[13:26] <domker_> ikonia: oki i remove all flash packages and install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:27] <noaXess> does anybody use dcfldd?
[13:27] <comedit> I am not able to to acitvate wireless through networkapplet
[13:27] <comedit> There is a tickbox enable wireless but it is not responding
[13:28] <comedit> anybody a clue
[13:28] <domker_> ikonia: no sound :/
[13:28] <comedit> noaXess: i don't i think
[13:28] <noaXess> or dd?
[13:29] <noaXess> i want create a harddisk image, compressed image to restore it later
[13:29] <domker_> ikonia: some idea?
[13:29] <noaXess> normaly i just copy a harddisk with dd if=inut-hd of=output-hd conv=noerror,sync bs=4k
[13:30] <noaXess> i found that to create a compressed partition image..: dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip > /home/hda1.bin.gz
[13:30] <comedit> noaXess: did you try clonezilla
[13:30] <noaXess> comedit: no.. link?
[13:31] <comedit> google clonezilla burn the image and of you go
[13:31] <noaXess> comedit: ok.. found it :)
[13:31] <ikonia> domker_: what arch are you on
[13:33] <domker_> ikonia: ??
[13:33] <dwidmann> domker_: uname -m
[13:34] <domker_> ikonia: i686
[13:34] <ikonia> most odd
[13:39] <domker_> ikonia: i try boot kubuntu 9.04 from CD and i try flash there
[13:39] <ikonia> cd's not the best test ground, but sure, worth a look
[13:40] <lokai> could someone help me with getting my crontab working? I'm trying to run a python script on every hour. I input a line "0 * * * * python /path/to/script.py" It doesn't seem to work, though. Any thoughts?
[13:44] <vmt> Hello all :) someone knows a good open-source extranet solution?
[13:50] <alistrone> mmm
[13:50] <alistrone> opensuse
[13:50] <Mamarok> alistrone: behave!
[13:55] <BluesKaj> G'Day All
[13:58] <millun> dwidmann: i had that
[13:58] <dwidmann> millun: that was the first thing that popped into my head, but it might not be what we're looking for
[13:59] <dwidmann> millun: now I have more ideas :)
[13:59] <noaXess> is there another, newer verison of k3b for jaunty available?
[14:00] <dwidmann> noaXess: I don't think so, why?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> there is some python app that is taking up 75% of cpu load, i couldn't isolate the culprit , so I killed it in system monitor . Anyone else have this experience and if so , is there a fix?
[14:03] <Pici> BluesKaj: What app?
[14:03] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: ps aux |  grep python might have been ableto give a clue
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Pici, wish i knew
[14:04] <trylik> how can i adjust window size when loging to "safemode"?
[14:05] <afeijo> how can I change my ubuntu server IP ?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Pici, kinda difficult now that I killed the process
[14:06] <Pici> Yeah :/
[14:07] <BluesKaj> wonder if reloging in can replicate it ..brb
[14:07] <domker> No sound in flash plugin - the same problem on Kubuntu booted from CD //i have Realtek ALC850
[14:07] <noaXess> dwidmann: why not ;) (k3b)
[14:07] <noaXess> k4b
[14:08] <dwidmann> noaXess: because it's not anywhere near ready yet, as far as I know
[14:08] <ikonia> domker: I'm wondering if the problem is with the sound interface rather than flash
[14:08] <noaXess> dwidmann: but there will be a newer verison soon, right?
[14:08] <dwidmann> noaXess: I wish they would have ported first, released that, then went about their massive change ...
[14:09] <domker> ikonia: sound in flash work fine on Kubuntu 8.10
[14:09] <ikonia> domker: your not using that so it's not much help
[14:09] <canen> morning folks
[14:10] <canen> according to go-oo it is available in ubuntu as openoffice.org
[14:10] <canen> so does ubuntu use go-oo by default instead of the upstream openoffice?
[14:11] <ikonia> canen: what is go-oo ?
[14:11] <canen> http://go-oo.org/
[14:12] <canen> ikonia: i think it is just a customised version of openoffice
[14:12] <ikonia> canen: ubuntu uses open office - I don't know what go-oo is in relation to ubuntu
[14:12] <afeijo> how can I change my ubuntu server IP ?
[14:13] <canen> ikonia: it is openoffice. i was looking to try it but on their  download page they say you can install it by installing openoffice.org
[14:13] <canen> ikonia: which is kinda confusing, so i was wondering if ubuntu actually uses go-oo by default
[14:13] <canen> afeijo: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:14] <afeijo> canen: that file have just 2 lines, no IP
[14:15] <canen> afeijo: if you want to give your server a static ip that's where it's done
[14:15] <afeijo> ok
[14:15] <ikonia> canen: openoffice.org is a website
[14:15] <ikonia> canen: how can you install a website
[14:15] <canen> afeijo: man interfaces for more info
[14:15] <canen> ikonia: openoffice.org is also the name of the product :)
[14:16] <ikonia> canen: it's utter tosh
[14:16] <canen> ikonia: it seems ubuntu runs go-oo by default so that answers my questions
[14:16] <ikonia> comedit: they are just linking directly to the open office packages in the distros
[14:17] <ikonia> comedit: what makes you think it runs go-oo by default
[14:17] <canen> ikonia: i assuming you mean me :)
[14:17] <ikonia> canen: correct, well spotted ;)
[14:17] <ikonia> comedit: sorry
[14:17] <canen> ikonia: http://www.linux.com/feature/154364 and other places
[14:18] <ikonia> canen: I find that hard to believe
[14:18] <canen> ikonia: why?
[14:18] <ikonia> canen: a big factor is that the package "openoffice.org" isn't even a package
[14:18] <canen> ikonia: i know, it is a group
[14:19] <canen> ikonia: what exactly is the issue?
[14:19] <ikonia> I just find it hard to believe that the "open office" pushed by ubuntu would actually be a deriviant code base
[14:19] <ikonia> more so as it's never actually mentioned anywhere
[14:19] <canen> ikonia: well it is
[14:20] <canen> ikonia: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+question/14965
[14:20] <ikonia> I wonder if any of the maintainers are free
[14:20] <ikonia> ahh you have something already
[14:20] <canen> i mean even debian uses go-oo
[14:21] <ikonia> canen: ahh so some of the goo build patches
[14:21] <ikonia> more research on my parts is needed, very interesting
[14:21] <ikonia> great point
[14:23]  * canen goes off to try firefox 3.4 beta 4
[14:24] <canen> *beta 5
[14:27] <Kovert> Using Jaunty where can I enable wide screen support?
[14:29] <Kovert> !xorg.conf
[14:32] <afeijo_BR> can I use geany to open files thru ssh ?
[14:35] <genii> afeijo_BR: I don't believe you can initiate an sshfs from inside it. But if you have an existing sshfs mount just point it to that dir for the files
[14:36] <afeijo_BR> genii: damn, Kate can but kate isnt working here today, I updated to 8.10
[14:37] <afeijo_BR> genii: I have it mounted, it is really slow, takes tens of minutes
[14:37] <afeijo_BR> the connection is pretty fast, I dont know where is the problem
[14:38] <genii> afeijo_BR: Sounds like some other issue at work if it takes "tens of minutes". Although they could also be huge files
[14:38] <rmrfslash_> Hey all. I filed a bug for this but perhaps someone has come up w/ a workaround or solution: When I have fglrx (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670) enabled + desktop effects w/ OpenGL compositing, resume from either sleep or hibernate fail. I get a black screen w/ some funky colored lines at the top of the display. The machine appears to be hung and a hard reboot is the only way to recover. If I...
[14:38] <rmrfslash_> ...set the compositing type to XRender, resume works just fine (though XRender cripples the desktop effects to basic transparency and other negligible effects).
[14:39] <afeijo_BR> genii: no, the slow part is to browse my folders
[14:40] <rmrfslash_> I thought maybe to add something to /etc/pm/sleep.d to disable desktop effects and running a kwin --replace but doing so tends to hang kwin.
[14:41] <afeijo_BR> genii: I'm using sshfs to mount
[14:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> can somebody point me to where I can download individual packages from the repositories?
[14:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> main repositories
[14:44] <jarle> I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 (with both KDE3 and KDE4 installed) and trying to upgrade to 9.04 the distribution upgrade fails with "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" shows no held packages and I still fail to upgrade. Any hints?
[14:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> never mind. found them.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !python
[14:45] <White_Pelican> not sure I can be of help but I will try. How are you trying to upgrade?
[14:46] <jarle> White_Pelican: running adetp_update (and following the dist upgrade) like shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[14:47] <White_Pelican> hmmm
[14:47] <White_Pelican> it should have worked
[14:48] <White_Pelican> admittedly, I haven't upgraded yet
[14:48] <rmrfslash_> anyone?
[14:48] <White_Pelican> I'm still married to kde 3
[14:48] <LinuxApe> Becoming more and more certain that my jaunty upgrade from intrepid was a failure:  can't print anymore, system settings app doesn't have the software manager applet, clicking on links in thunderbird does not open page in firefox, etc.
[14:51] <genii> afeijo_BR: Apologies on lag, work needed me. Geany is a GTK app and this may be causing some slowdown. Other things which come to mind which may be contributing are mount options in use.
[14:51] <afeijo_BR> genii: its ok.  my mountpoint have no options, just the folder and the target
[14:52] <jarle> maybe I should try removing KDE4 from my system before starting the upgrade, but I can't seem to figure out which package to remove
[14:54] <luar_brilhante> my cd driver is broken.... can i install kubuntu to my hard drive via usb?
[14:55] <genii> afeijo_BR: You may want to try for mount options -o sshfs_sync,connect              and see if any improvement
[14:56] <afeijo_BR> I need to unmount first, let me find out how
[14:56] <amgarching> so how do I upgrade to 9.04 from the cmdline? This is a headless machine so I could actually also switch to "ubuntu-server" if I new how.
[14:56] <amgarching> *knew
[14:57] <tzanger> good morning, I can see from the little systray icon that I have 7 updates available
[14:57] <tzanger> but no way to graphically update like the older kubuntu's
[14:57] <tzanger> click/doubleclick des nothing
[14:57] <tzanger> I know I can apt-get update/upgrade from CLI
[14:57] <tzanger> but is this expected operation?
[14:58] <domker> ikonia: i force reload alsa (sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[14:58] <rmrfslash_> anyone else having probs w/ vpnc /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink?
[14:58] <domker> .. and i have sound in flash
[14:58] <amgarching> tzanger: start aptitude, select category with "+", press "g" for "go" (two times)
[14:59] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: try kickoff > Applications > System > Kpackagekit
[14:59] <tzanger> amgarching: ok but again that's CLI; did the GUI update go away?
[14:59] <tzanger> ahh, I don't have kpackagekit installed
[14:59] <rmrfslash_> 9.04?
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: 9.04?
[15:00] <tzanger> (this was a ubuntu install I updated to kubuntu
[15:00] <tzanger> yes 9.04 sorry
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: command % kpackagekit
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: should come w/ kubuntu 9.04
[15:01] <tzanger> rmrfslash_: not installed, let me install that, just a moment
[15:01] <luar_brilhante> hi everyone =) my cd driver is broken.... does anyone know how i can install kubuntu to my hard drive via usb?
[15:01] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: weird
[15:01] <tzanger> as I said the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop seems to have missed it
[15:01] <rmrfslash_> oh
[15:01] <rmrfslash_> yeah... I guess install manually
[15:02] <genii> Interesting, you'd think kpackagekit would be in the metapackage dependencies or so
[15:02] <tzanger> genii: agreed
[15:03] <tzanger> genii, rmrfslash_, amgarching kpackagekit was the culprit.  instaled it, and double-clicking the systray icon pulls up what I expected it to
[15:03] <tzanger> I guess that's a metapackage buglet
[15:03] <genii> tzanger: Might be useful to file a bug for it on launchpad
[15:04] <tzanger> genii: ok
[15:05] <snarkster> anyone know where hotway and hotsmtp went?
[15:05] <snarkster> hotway and hotsmtp arent in the repos anymore.
[15:05] <tzanger> genii: next question if you don't mind... I noticed on gnome's desktop that ssh keys pop up a nice GUI dialog box that I'd never seen on KDE before, and the 9.04 KDE doesn't have it either... is that another package that I just don't have installed?
[15:06] <genii> tzanger: I'm not yet running 9.04 so not too helpful, sorry
[15:06] <snarkster> 9.04 rocks
[15:07] <tzanger> np, I use ssh-agent anyway :-)
[15:07] <snarkster> cept missing hotway, hotsmtp
[15:07] <genii> Hehe
[15:10] <luar_brilhante> hi everyone =) does anyone know how i can install kubuntu to my hard drive via usb? My cd driver is broken....
[15:10] <genii> !info gotmail jaunty
[15:11] <snarkster> oh so hotway is now gone, and use gotmail?? cool thanx
[15:12] <genii> snarkster: Not sure if it's supposed to be some replacement... is also in my 8.04 along with hotway, etc
[15:12] <snarkster> maybe i just need to build it?
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info
[15:12] <snarkster> i really liked hotway
[15:12] <genii> snarkster: It just came up in the results when I did: apt-cache search hotmail
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info usb_install
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info usb-install
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info usb install
[15:13] <luar_brilhante> !info usb install intrepid
[15:13] <snarkster> didnt think about searching for hotmail
[15:13] <luar_brilhante> !info usbinstall intrepid
[15:13] <snarkster> luar_brilhante: try pendrive linux.com
[15:13] <Pici> !fishing
[15:13] <genii> luar_brilhante: Maybe check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:13] <snarkster> also take a look at usb-creator for 8.10 doesnt work with 9.04
[15:14] <luar_brilhante> genii: thank u! :)
[15:14] <genii> luar_brilhante: You're welcome
[15:14] <tokeefe> genii: you're the first person to ever say "you're welcome" on this channel
[15:15] <snarkster> so gotmail will only download mail not send mail..
[15:15] <snarkster> what a PITA
[15:15] <genii> snarkster: What are you usually using for email, evolution?
[15:16] <snarkster> is it possible to get the intrepid repos in 9.04?
[15:16] <snarkster> yah i am
[15:16] <snarkster> it does all my mail and calendering for me
[15:17] <snarkster> genii what repo is hotway, hotsmtp in?
[15:18] <genii> snarkster: When I check at packages.ubuntu.com   it shows only 8.04 has them. 8.10 has some watch-file relating to hotway but not hotway itself. i suspect those apps may have posed some security issue
[15:20] <eagles0513875> genii: check offtopic there is present for you
[15:20] <justin_> hey...i have a problem with my ati radeonx1200 inegrated card...does anyone know if there is a compatability issue with kubuntu?
[15:20] <giovanni> ciao a tutti
[15:20] <justin_> i downloaded the driver and it keeps giving me an error when i try to install
[15:20] <genii> !it | giovanni
[15:21] <justin_> anyone?
[15:22] <snarkster> hmm ok thnak you
[15:22] <snarkster> i gotta take the kids t school
[15:22] <snarkster> thanks again
[15:23] <genii> snarkster: Maybe check http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/setting-up-evolution-mail-gmail-and-hotmail/
[15:23] <genii> Bah, left
[15:23] <eagles0513875> !patience | justin_
[15:23] <justin_> all i said was anyone
[15:24] <genii> justin_: One moment I'll give you a link for manual ATI driver install
[15:24] <justin_> thank you
[15:24] <genii> justin_: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_restricted_drivers_manually
[15:25] <aljosa> when i type firefox in krunner (kde 4.2.2) i get options to launch firefox2 which is no longer installed. where can i clear krunner cache?
[15:26] <batman> j
[15:27] <rmrfslash__> justin: which driver did u install? fglrx or open source (ati/radeon/radeonhd)?
[15:27] <genii> aljosa: Maybe remove your krunnerrc file. Should be somewhere like ~/.kde/share/config
[15:27] <rmrfslash__> justin_: which driver did u install? fglrx or open source (ati/radeon/radeonhd)?
[15:28] <rmrfslash__> justin_: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[15:28] <justin_> 9.04 64 bit
[15:28] <justin_> igot it from ati's website
[15:29] <aljosa> genii: nothing there, but thanks for trying
[15:30] <tyagiamreesh> logout
[15:30] <rmrfslash__> justin_: u ever try using apt-get?
[15:30] <justin_> not for the driver
[15:31] <rmrfslash__> justin_: e.g. sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:31] <justin_> rmrfslash_: thank you
[15:32] <rmrfslash__> justin_: then you may have to run sudo ./aticonfig --initial from within /etc/X11/
[15:32] <justin_> alright
[15:32] <rmrfslash__> justin_: then reboot the ever-lovin' sh*t out of your puter
[15:32] <justin_> ha.alright thank you
[15:33] <TYAGIBOYZ> a
[15:34] <TYAGIBOYZ> #join gsoc
[15:34] <rmrfslash__> justin_: I heard of course that fglrx won't work w/ some older ATI chips. If it doesn't work, drop to root shell (recovery mode) and uninstall it using sudo apt-get remove --purce xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:34] <rmrfslash__> *purge
[15:34] <rmrfslash__> then restore the xorg.conf backup
[15:35] <justin_> alright
[15:39] <noaXess> do i need linux-source or linux-headers if i compile any app that need kernel source?
[15:39] <noaXess> or need i both?
[15:40] <HSNews> Why Kubuntu best over Ubuntu?
[15:40] <jussi01> HSNews: neither is better - just different.
[15:40] <jussi01> !best | HSNews
[15:41] <brano_> pls does anyone of you know how to enable horizontal scrolling with touchpad ? using KDE 4.2.2 kubuntu jaunty
[15:41] <cosmosy> Hey!
[15:42] <cosmosy> So, I got wifi issues http://pastie.org/462548
[15:43] <HSNews> How I can merge Kubuntu + Ubuntu?
[15:43] <jussi01> HSNews: what do you have currently?
[15:43] <cosmosy> Lol.
[15:43] <HSNews> I have empty HDD
[15:43] <HSNews> :)
[15:43] <cosmosy> Nobody knows!
[15:43] <HSNews> It is real to install Ubuntu + Kubuntu? For switching use Switch user?
[15:44] <jussi01> HSNews: install one of them, then install the package kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop
[15:44] <jussi01> cosmosy: patience is a virtue ;)
[15:44] <cosmosy> Not yet ;)
[15:44] <HSNews> And how to switch between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[15:45] <cosmosy> HSNews:  for the love of god, install kubunte first. THEN Gnome
[15:45] <jussi01> HSNews: log out, then choose from the menu on the login screen
[15:45] <lovre> hi all, i have a problem.... after i updated to 9.04, Matlab GUI is not showing, the GUI depends on Java so i guess it has something to do with that? Can i reinstall Java or something? please help
[15:45] <cosmosy> And you can switch in the login manager
[15:45] <HSNews> jussi01: oh... thanks!
[15:45] <jussi01> !java | lovre
[15:45] <lovre> jussi01: ty
[15:46] <jussi01> lovre: yw :)
[15:46] <cosmosy> Apr 29 16:45:47 zx kernel: [14525.625910] ath5k phy0: unsupported jumbo
[15:46] <cosmosy> Keep getting those every 2-3 seconds
[15:46] <cosmosy> I use ubuntu
[15:47] <|PaperTiger|> I'm trying to upgrade from KDE 4.1 to 4.2. I'm following the guide on Ubuntu help, but I can't do one of the steps.
[15:47] <cosmosy> But, guys.. the people #ubuntu couldnt know this
[15:47] <cosmosy> They are too nubied
[15:47] <lovre> jussi01: i get this when trying to install:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[15:52] <Adrian09> Hola'
[15:54] <alistrone> ehi
[15:54] <lovre> ok i figured out that problem has something to do with compiz. When i run compiz, matlab GUI doesnt show up, and when i run Kwin it does show. Does compiz have a problem with Java or what??
[15:56] <Adrian09> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
[15:56] <Adrian09> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
[15:56] <jussi01> !es
[15:57] <jussi01> lovre: does it work with kwins desktop effects turned on?
[15:57] <lovre> jussi01: yes it does. I  just read online that Compiz has problem with displaying Java windows. I need to install Java 6 Update 1 to fix this issue. How can i do this?
[15:58] <jussi01> lovre: out of curiousity, why are you using compiz?
[15:59] <khindenburg> I use compiz for transparent windows
[15:59] <lovre> jussi01: well, i  can live without it, but it has nice effects.
[15:59] <jussi01> lovre: and you are using jaunty?
[16:00] <jussi01> just that kwin now has most of what compiz does...
[16:00] <lovre> jussi01: yes.
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: just a quick question, when i turn on desktop effects, but dont run compiz --replace, is that kwin doing all the effects? cuz if thats the case, then really one doesnt even need compiz
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: except for cube etc, but thats really not neccessary
[16:01] <jussi01> lovre: correct...
[16:01] <jussi01> lovre: kwin has cube...
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: thats cool :D
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: oh :o
[16:02] <lovre> jussi01: didnt know that.... anyway.... how do i update java6 to update 1?
[16:02] <jussi01> or it did last time I checked :) Ill look again...
[16:02] <jussi01> lovre: Im not sure on updating java.
[16:02] <jussi01> lovre: yes, my jaunty machine has cube :)
[16:03] <jussi01> lovre: default shortcut is ctrl+f11
[16:03] <lovre> for what?
[16:03] <jussi01> lovre: for activating the cube, if enabled.
[16:04] <lovre> jussi01: how do i update any package? can i do this: sudo apt-get update package-name?
[16:04] <jussi01> lovre: not really
[16:04] <lovre> jussi01: hmm
[16:05] <lovre> sudo apt-get update => does that update all packages or just the repos?
[16:05] <jussi01> !info sun-java6-jre
[16:05] <lovre> !info java-update
[16:05] <jussi01> lovre: just the package list
[16:05] <lovre> jussi01: erm, how would i go about updating a package then
[16:05] <jussi01> then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:06] <lovre> i see
[16:06] <kasper> Are someone from Finland?
[16:06] <jussi01> kasper: Minä
[16:06] <kasper> Moi
[16:07] <BluesKaj> LinuxApe, links in thunderbird was broken for my setup for a long time in Hardy , then intrepid it somehow fixed itself , but I was so fed up by then that I switched to Kmail
[16:07] <lovre> jussi01: thank you for your help, im done with this, using kwin :)))
[16:07] <luis_> hi there
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !fi | kasper
[16:07] <jussi01> kasper: only english in here though, you are welcome to join us in #kubuntu-fi
[16:07] <kasper> ok
[16:08] <jussi01> lovre: yw :)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> jussi01, I thought you din't speak Finnish ? :)
[16:09] <jussi01> BluesKaj: only some :)
[16:09] <LinuxApe> BluesKaj: I've checked the thunderbird about:config dialog, and the settings for firefox are in there, it just doesn't work. How do you like kmail?
[16:09] <luis_> good day i like to ask for ur help i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:10] <luis_> can somebody help me pls
[16:11] <madrazr> Hello everyone, I installed, Ubuntu 9.04 and then install kubuntu-desktop upon it, also installed amarok 2
[16:12] <madrazr> I was not able to add songs to playlist, I tried installing amarok 2.1 beta from PPA, but I still had the same problem, after trying to scan the collection
[16:12] <madrazr> I am now able to add the songs, but when I play it, the songs get over in matter of seconds
[16:12] <madrazr> can some one help me please?
[16:12] <Kovert> where is the exact location of .xprofile?
[16:12] <madrazr> Kovert: .xprofile?
[16:13] <madrazr> Kovert: asking me?
[16:13] <Kovert> no question for all
[16:13] <madrazr> ah Ok
[16:13] <madrazr> :)
[16:13] <Kovert> !.xprofile
[16:14] <kaddi> !xorg
[16:14] <luis_>  i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:15] <jussi01> madrazr: you could try asking in #amarok if no one here answers
[16:15] <gardien> i look for a mac os emulator on ubuntu
[16:15] <madrazr> jussi01: ok cool!
[16:15] <Kovert> kaddi thats why i asked my question
[16:15] <genii> Kovert: There is no .xprofile in Ubuntu. Instead use .xsession or ..xinitrc
[16:15] <kaddi> what question kovert?
[16:15] <Kovert> where the .xprofile is located
[16:16] <nameiner> madrazr: you are probably missing support for mp3 playback if the songs don
[16:16] <gardien> where can i find mac os emulator on ubuntu
[16:16] <genii> Kovert: To repeat: there is no .xprofile
[16:16] <nameiner> if the songs don't play
[16:16] <madrazr> nameiner: I can play in all other players on my system
[16:16] <madrazr> nameiner: totem, banshee, exaile ...
[16:16] <Kovert> got it so then where is the xintrc
[16:16] <genii> Kovert: It's in your home directory
[16:17] <jussi01> madrazr: only time I have that is when I forget to mount the fdrive my songs are on...
[16:17] <kaddi> Kovert: I was looking for some info on xorg myself, it wasn't intended as an answer to your question. I don't even know what xprofile does ;)
[16:17] <madrazr> jussi01: the partitions are mounted
[16:17] <nameiner> madrazr: I don't know, if amarok needs a special package
[16:17] <madrazr> nameiner: it doesn't I think, it was working perfectly in 8.10
[16:17] <jussi01> madrazr: you are certain? :D
[16:17] <om__> how do i save a screenshot in kde? clicking print screen doesn't work
[16:18] <madrazr> jussi01: definitely
[16:18] <nameiner> madrazr: but I can try, since I didn't use amarok on my freshly installed system yet, if you have the time to let me check it out
[16:18] <jussi01> om kmenu, graphics - ksnapshot
[16:18] <kaddi> speaking of which: my problem is, that ever since I upgraded to jaunty xorg needs betwenn 50 and 100% of my CPU. Is this a known problem? is there something a patch or something? or at least some way of finding out what the problem is?
[16:18] <om__> thanks jussi! brb gotta show you some weird bug..
[16:19] <madrazr> nameiner: sure, I will be around
[16:19] <madrazr> try and tell me please
[16:21] <luis_> i like to ask a friendly and patience help pls this is my problem:   i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:21] <om__> for some reason when i start KDE, the font size is HUGE
[16:22] <om__> it's like size 70 font.. i can't read anything
[16:23] <luis_> om maybe u need to change ur screen resolution as an administrator
[16:23] <om__> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqzTUGS
[16:26] <kasper> How can make own channel?
[16:26] <nameiner> madrazr: right when I started it it recommends installing additional packages for multimedia functionalities e.g. MP3encoding
[16:26] <om__> when i go to system -> screen resize, nothing happens...
[16:26] <nameiner> madrazr: let me see what it actually wants to install
[16:26] <kasper> How can make own channel??
[16:27] <luis_> om i might be wrong but i thing u need to change ur screen resolution as an administrator or can also try on the browser: edit, preferences, contentes, fonts and colors
[16:27] <genii> kasper:  /join ##channel-name-you-want-to-make
[16:28] <luis_> pls help  i like to ask a friendly and patience help pls this is my problem:   i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:28] <nameiner> madrazr: libmp3lame0, libtunepimp5-mp3, libdvdread4, libavcodec-unstripped-52 and libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:28] <om__> luis_: it's not just the browser.. it's everything.. how do i change the resolution as an administer? it doesn't ask me for a pw when i click on screen resolution...
[16:28] <madrazr> nameiner: let me see if these are installed
[16:28] <om__> i don't even think it's the resolution.. it's just the font
[16:28] <jussi01> om__: try system settings - appearance - force fonts dpi: 96
[16:28] <nameiner> madrazr: I think the mp3 playback is in the libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:29] <pookito> hello world
[16:30] <pookito> hi
[16:30] <luis_> om u have a screen resolution issue
[16:30] <madrazr> nameiner: awesome cool!
[16:30] <madrazr> nameiner: thanks a lot
[16:30] <madrazr> it worked after installing those packages
[16:30] <nameiner> madrazr: yw
[16:30] <pookito> do we have any problems with the knetworkmanager
[16:30] <pookito> ?
[16:30] <jussi01> om__: not sure if you need to restart x after that though
[16:31] <luis_> go to menu then system setting and from there click on display
[16:31] <jussi01> pookito: in which release?
[16:31] <jussi01> luis_: I dont htink its a resolution issue
[16:31] <pookito> 9.4
[16:31] <jussi01> pookito: so you mean issues with the plasmoid?
[16:31] <pookito> not, with the wireless software
[16:32] <pookito> knetworkmanager that is
[16:32] <luis_> ok jussie pls help hiim i am not sure what the problem would be so i might be missleading him
[16:32] <bendik> is there any downloadable games for kubuntu? :)
[16:32] <bendik> like shooting games or racing games?
[16:32] <jussi01> pookito: the default network manager in jaunty is the network manager plasmoid...
[16:32] <luis_> aa lot
[16:32] <luis_> u can try the emulators
[16:32] <om__> i guess i'll try to restart, brb
[16:32] <jussi01> !games | bendik
[16:32] <luis_> and get the romss from some web
[16:33] <bendik> the emulators?
[16:33] <bendik> KUBUNTU EMULATORS?
[16:33] <jussi01> bendik: tremulous, nexuiz, alien arena just to name a dfew
[16:33] <pookito> well, I do not know if it is the plasmoid or the wireless
[16:33] <luis_> kubuntu has emulators to play ninterndo or play station games
[16:33] <pookito> I have been using ubuntu, but I really want to switch back to kde
[16:33] <luis_> they are on the repositories
[16:33] <jussi01> bendik: please look at the link I just gave you :)
[16:34] <kasper> I am finding friends for game
[16:35] <jussi01> kasper: please dont ask here - you can chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:35] <jussi01> robotti: ^
[16:35] <robotti> ok
[16:35] <luis_> so any 1 that can guide me and help me out with my problem pls??
[16:35] <bendik> THANKS ;)
[16:35] <jussi01> luis_: have you looked on linuxprinting.org
[16:35] <jussi01> ?
[16:35] <luis_> yes
[16:36] <luis_> my probllem is the sacn function
[16:36] <luis_> not the printing funtoin
[16:36] <luis_> thats why i am giving the tutorial iam following
[16:36] <luis_> but theres a part where it doesnt continue with the process
[16:37] <pookito> so, is it a problem with plasmoid?
[16:37] <jussi01> pookito: you havent told us the symptoms yet...
[16:37] <pookito> it just do not work.
[16:38] <pookito> It does not connect to the wireless
[16:39] <|PaperTiger|> What is a good program to use for formatting a HDD?
[16:39] <jussi01> pookito: and what kind of wireless do you have? does it begin connecting? is the wireless detected?
[16:39] <jussi01> !info gparted | |PaperTiger|
[16:39] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, works on KDE? Stupid question :)
[16:40] <pookito> it does detect wireless service, but when I try to connect it refuses to.
[16:40] <luis_> the problem is that still is not included on the list
[16:40] <luis_> but there are some work around to mke it work
[16:40] <luis_> printing and scanng functions
[16:41] <jussi01> pookito: have you tried setting it up - ie. right click the plasmoid, manage connections?
[16:41] <luis_> actually printing function is done kubuntu does install it with no problem but the scanniing funtion is the problem
[16:41] <jussi01> |PaperTiger|: of course it does :) just pulls in a few gnome libs.
[16:42] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, ah. okay. makes sense. Cheers.
[16:42] <pookito> I right click then go to the wireless that it finds, then I save the wireless settings and then connected.  at first it does make an attempt to do so but then it does not connect.  :(
[16:42] <luis_> theres this ubuntu guide that give step by step the instructions but when i rech the cd iscan... part stops everything cause some bash directory not found problem http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600
[16:43] <Kovert> gini where is xintrc I cant find it in my home
[16:43] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, know a program I can use to do a total system backup? Like an image to another HDD?
[16:43] <rufong> gparted is da bomb. but say i was paranoid, is there something that shreds ur hddrive an is proven anti-law recovery? kekeke
[16:43] <jussi01> !backup | |PaperTiger|
[16:43] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01 :) thanks
[16:43] <jussi01> :)
[16:43] <jussi01>  |PaperTiger| YW
[16:44] <rufong> pardon my manners pls. 'ello everyone
[16:52] <SpeS> hi
[16:52] <luis_> ok letme refresh my question
[16:53] <luis_> after untaring the iscan_2.10.0-1 nedd according to the gui to get into the directory and compile it
[16:53] <SpeS> any known problem with nvidia 8600GT and OpenGL??
[16:53] <luis_> thats where the problem start cause for that u nee cd coomand
[16:53] <luis_> but it keeps saying bash: no such file or directory
[16:53] <luis_> the rest is fine
[16:53] <SpeS> I can have desktop effects with XRender (too slow), but it fails to draw with OpenGL...
[16:54] <luis_> everything goes smooth till trying to get into the directory
[16:55] <luis_> whhy is this happening
[16:55] <luis_> do i need to install some thing else before ??
[16:55] <mythos> ciao atutti
[16:56] <Pici> !it | mythos
[16:59] <Byron> !netbook
[16:59] <Byron> !remix
[16:59] <genii> luis_: Likely whats called the "shebang" in the file you are trying to run specifies a path for finding bash that does not exist on your Ubuntu box, but would exist on a Redhat or somesuch box
[16:59] <Byron> Does anyone know how I can get the repos for the netbook remix?
[17:00] <luis_> ok so in more comprehensive lenguage what do i need to do genii????
[17:02] <genii> luis_: What is the command you are currently putting in which is failing?
[17:02] <luis_> cd iscan_2.10.0-1
[17:02] <afeijo_BR> what player to dvd disks should I use?
[17:03] <luis_> it alwas give me back
[17:03] <luis_> bash: cd: iscan_2.10.0-1: No such file or directory
[17:05] <afeijo_BR> what dvd player do you guys use?
[17:05] <p_quarles> luis_: are you entering the entire line in the tutorial beginning with "cd iscan*"?
[17:05] <B1TF1ND3R-0101> i got ubuntu just installed ...  =D wow    so many things to learn   >.<
[17:06] <luis_> yes
[17:06] <luis_> just like the gui says
[17:06] <Guest67919> hi, i'm having some trouble with skype in jaunty
[17:06] <p_quarles> luis_: the "<" are meant to be line breaks; that isn't immediately apparent in the tutorial, but all those commands are supposed to be entered separately
[17:07] <luis_> yes i know
[17:07] <p_quarles> luis_: you're getting an error because "cd" is not an application, but a Bash built-in, and the command chaining is causing it not to be found
[17:07] <luis_> thats what i am doing
[17:07] <jbeard> i'm not really familiar with phonon, and iw as owondering if someone could help me troubleshoot it
[17:07] <p_quarles> luis_: ooookay; try this: cd ~
[17:08] <luis_> with the iscan... right??
[17:08] <p_quarles> luis_: no, just that command, by itself
[17:08] <luis_> nothing happen
[17:08] <p_quarles> luis_: we're testing; so now run "pwd" and give us the output
[17:08] <rufong> b1tf1nd3r: welcome to the party m8
[17:09] <luis_> sorry here is what i got with pwd: /home/luis
[17:10] <p_quarles> luis_: okay, cd is working fine, so you're doing someething incorrectly when trying to cd into the iscan_* directory; where is that directory located?
[17:10] <luis_> i also did this and heres the resul
[17:10]  * genii hands p_quarles more coffee
[17:10] <luis_> let me give u what i got
[17:10] <p_quarles> genii: heh, just had two cups :)
[17:10] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$ ls
[17:10] <luis_> Desktop       iscan_2.10.0-1.tar.gz    Music     Templates
[17:10] <luis_> Documents     iscan_2.10.0-1.tar.gz.1  Pictures  Videos
[17:10] <luis_> iscan-2.10.0  iscan_2.10.0-1.tar.gz.2  Public
[17:10] <p_quarles> !paste | luis
[17:11] <jbeard> if anyone thinks they can help me with my skype issue, just PM me, I'd appreciate it
[17:11] <p_quarles> luis_: okay, do: cd iscan-2.10.0
[17:11] <luis_> ja
[17:11] <luis_> that worked
[17:12] <p_quarles> luis_: you were trying to enter a directory that didn't exist; notice that it's called something different in your /home directory than in the tutorial
[17:12] <luis_> ooo
[17:12] <luis_> i c
[17:12] <luis_> txs a lot p_quarles
[17:13] <yamishi> hi
[17:13] <p_quarles> luis_: np; also, I would avoid the advice to use "sudo gedit"; use gksudo gedit or kdesudo kate instead
[17:13] <yamishi> can someone help me with something i think is incompatibility with the 9.04?
[17:14] <luis_> ok
[17:14] <luis_> interesting
[17:14] <luis_> txs
[17:15] <kaddi> !ask |yamishi
[17:15] <yamishi> i've been having problems with the idjc
[17:16] <yamishi> since i upgraded to 9.04 it doesn't opens after chosing the profile
[17:20] <yamishi> does anyone knows what's happening?
[17:23]  * Froad_ wonders whether he should try a Kubuntu live cd
[17:23] <yamishi> someone?
[17:24] <Froad_> questoin?
[17:24] <ralmar> Hey guys I currently have ubuntu 8.10 and wanted to know if there were any dangers or things that could go wrong or programs like vmware that could stop working if i upgraded with the alternate cd to 9.04. Thanks
[17:25] <PovAddict> where do I change the screen DPI, so that Qt widgets and stuff are drawn bigger?
[17:28] <yamishi> does anyone knows how to fix the issue with the idjc on the kubuntu 9.04?
[17:29] <ktmini> hi guys i have an emergency
[17:30] <blip-> hi, i'm running kubuntu 8.10 and using KDE 4.2.2 which I got from the backports repo.    when I try to install Kolourpaint I get the message:
[17:30] <blip-> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:30] <blip->   kolourpaint: Depends: kolourpaint4 but it is not going to be installed
[17:30] <blip-> E: Broken packages
[17:30] <ktmini> where are the documents of kubuntu on windows disk when linux is installed "as an windows application" ? thanks
[17:31] <genii> yamishi: Perhaps check that all the packages marked in red on this page are installed http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/idjc
[17:31] <yamishi> ok
[17:33] <ktmini> please guys ay idea?!
[17:33] <repbolivar04> hola
[17:33] <repbolivar04> buenas tardes
[17:34] <genii> !es | repbolivar04
[17:35] <genii> ktmini: The kubuntu documents will not be accessible from in Windows, only from in Kubuntu. The linux install is made in a disk image file.
[17:36] <ktmini> arg! ok thank you! good bye
[17:37] <ktmini> (do you know where is this image and if some software can mount it in a live-linux?)
[17:38]  * pookito is away: Gone away for now
[17:41] <MushroomKingdom> I can't get DOSbox to work
[17:42] <ahox> Hi, I have a problem with kdesvn, it complains that I my network is disabled. Any idea why?
[17:47] <genii> ktmini: I do not use the Wubi for such reasons... you may want to ask them in #ubuntu-installer
[17:47] <genii> Bah, left already
[17:47] <cece> hi2all,i tried to install kubuntu9.04-desktop-i386 with my flashdisk,but when it came to the log in window,i can't use my keyboard.
[17:48] <caribou|> hello
[17:48] <genii> cece: Bluetooth?
[17:49] <genii> !hi | caribou|
[17:49] <caribou|> Simple question : does the desktop version of kubuntu is also a liveCD ?
[17:49] <yamishi> yeah
[17:49] <caribou|> -is
[17:49] <cece> no, a ps2
[17:49] <caribou|> yamishi, thank you :)
[17:49] <kociak> yes caribou
[17:49] <genii> caribou|: The regular one is, yes. The alternate cd is not
[17:50] <ahox> Hi, using kdesvn I get the errormessage "/corona/home/micha.schoell/svnroot/cosi/branches/micha-cosi/
[17:50] <ahox> grrr
[17:50] <ahox> I meant to write "Can not do this diff because networking is disabled."
[17:50] <caribou|> genii, yep this is written on the website actually but my english is not working sometimes :)
[17:50] <kociak> i have a problem with kontact - korganizer doesnt show day or week view - just blank grey space where i would expect day view divided into hours - does anyone have idea what might be the cause of it and solution?
[17:51] <ahox> Using for example Display last changes. Anyone here knows why?
[17:51] <gustavonarea> Hello. I'm using Jaunty and I can't connect to my WAP2 network using knetworkmanager (I'm not using the new network plasmoid because it didn't work either, as mentioned in the Release Notes)
[17:51] <gustavonarea> What can I do?
[17:51] <gustavonarea> I can see the list of available networks, but when I click on mine, nothing happens
[17:52] <genii> cece: Very odd. Are you sure it's in the keyboard ps2 plug and not ps2 mouse plug? This is the most common thing that happens when there are both plugs of this kind.
[17:52] <giuseppe> hello
[17:53] <genii> Hm. a hit-n-run Hello
[17:54] <genii> gustavonarea: Probably this bug which is not yet resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/366775
[17:55] <cece> i am very sure of this ,they have different colors
[17:55] <genii> Sorry, that is the plasmoid/WPA I think
[17:56] <PovAddict> where do I change the screen DPI, so that Qt widgets and stuff are drawn bigger?
[17:58] <genii> Work requires me a minute or two. AFK
[17:58] <JuJuBee> Does Jaunty have better support for the Atheros ath9k  wifi drivers?
[18:03] <reese> is the fix patch for amarok being been picked up by ubuntu?
[18:06] <gustavonarea> genii: thanks for the link! That's why I'm not using the plasmoid, but i don't understand why knetworkmanager doesn't work either
[18:08] <gustavonarea> I'm going to install Gnome's network manager to see if it does work
[18:08] <genii> Back.
[18:08] <genii> gustavonarea: Another alternative might be also wicd (I'm not sure if it's in 9.04 or not)
[18:09] <genii> !info wicd jaunty
[18:09] <genii> Yes, it is
[18:11] <foot> kubuntu 9.04 wlan not working atheros AR242x prop driver will not activate
[18:12] <gustavonarea> genii: thanks! I'm installing network-manager-gnome, though, because with wicd I'd have to remove network-manager-kde. But if it doesn't work, I'll try it too ;-)
[18:12] <bendik> see yah guys ;)
[18:14] <|PaperTiger|> I just used gparted to format an external drive to ext3 and there is a folder called "lost and found." Is that always there?
[18:15] <genii> foot: Try using the ath9k driver
[18:16] <foot> ok, do I need to download that?
[18:16] <genii> |PaperTiger|: Usually that folder exists after a filesystem check which finds stray folders/files/data   and it puts what it finds in there
[18:16] <genii> foot: It's supposed to be with 9.04
[18:16] <genii> AFK, work
[18:17] <foot> do I use apt-get or something to try ath9k driver?
[18:18] <tobi_> hey folks, ... I got one more lil problem to solve with my pppoeconf. During the configuration I was asked, whether I want to connect through booting my system - answer: Yes! But now I have to rum the "pon dsl-provider" in my Terminal when I want to get online access... where can I write that command down? Like some kind of autostart?!
[18:21] <rixtr66> my last wubi install of kubuntu,didn't save anything?how do i save the desktop,files etc.?
[18:22] <RootRay> Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display
[18:22] <RootRay> how do i get rid of these err msgs?
[18:22] <romullo> hello
[18:23] <genii> Back
[18:23] <romullo> the Kubuntu release 9.04 kde 3 remix was released?
[18:23] <genii> foot: First see if it already exists on your box with:  modprobe -l | grep ath9k
[18:25] <tobi_> romullo: I'm running on Jaunty KDE3 rmx
[18:25] <foot> msg genii yes it's there
[18:25] <romullo> tobi_: where did you downloaded?
[18:25] <adasz> how can i look up witch kubuntu version i have
[18:25] <romullo> i'm looking for on some mirrors, but i've not found
[18:26] <HSNews> wtf? when I install Kubuntu, It install GRUB LOADER to my primary HDD, without any questions!! but I install Kubuntu on external HDD
[18:26] <HSNews> wtf wtf?!!
[18:26] <HSNews> damn
[18:26] <genii> romullo: http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/ for 9.04/kde3 images
[18:26] <tobi_> my KDE asked me if I want to update :D
[18:26] <romullo> tobi_: not the mine =(
[18:26] <romullo> genii: thank you :)
[18:27] <genii> foot: Then you should just need to load it. Usually on-the-fly with: sudo modprobe ath9k                      or each time by puting the name ath9k in the file /etc/modules
[18:28] <tobi_> how can I make any command work like a autostart?!
[18:30] <genii> HSNews: Grub wants to install on the master boot reord of the primary hd, whatever that one is
[18:30] <genii> !startup | tobi_
[18:30] <tobi_> btw it's a sudo command (dunno if that's necessary)
[18:30] <tobi_> !boot | tobi_
[18:30] <genii> tobi_: You can also do other ways. By adding it to the global startup scripts of /etc/init.d with the command update-rc.d (see manpage for it) or by rc.local    for instance
[18:30] <adasz> how can i test witch kubuntu version i have
[18:31] <romullo> if i upgrade my Intrepid to Jaunty via adept, the KDE version will be 3.5 or 4?
[18:31] <Peace-> romullo: jaunty has kde4
[18:31] <genii> romullo: All versions after 8.04 use kde4 for default
[18:31] <tobi_> genii: I will try that :D thx
[18:31] <romullo> ok
[18:32] <genii> tobi_: You're welcome
[18:32] <genii> AFK, work
[18:32] <romullo> tobi_: you upgraded from Intrepid to Jaunty via adept?
[18:32] <tobi_> romullo: Yes!
[18:33] <romullo> ok... i'm checking the packages listed for removal and update
[18:33] <romullo> the adept won't install any kde4 package
[18:34] <MushroomKingdom> My sound stopped working!
[18:34] <romullo> i think i should trust it ;p
[18:34] <genii> Back
[18:34] <genii> MushroomKingdom: Is it one of those Intel HDA things?
[18:34] <MushroomKingdom> No Nvidia
[18:35] <blubunku> hi, i want to install kubuntu 9.04, is it possible to apt-get with this editon?
[18:35] <blubunku> sorry, to use apt-get!
[18:35] <tobi_> MushroomKingdom: did you update to Jaunty as well ?
[18:36] <MushroomKingdom> Fresh install from Vista, it was working yesterday
[18:36] <genii> blubunku: What version are you currently on?
[18:36] <blubunku> kubuntu 9.04 in virtualbox!
[18:38] <blubunku> i think its possible but iam not sure, because the new package kit?
[18:38] <blubunku> or is it only a frontend to apt-get?
[18:38] <foot> genii: I've put ath9k in my /etc/modules, I'll reboot and cross my fingers just for luck.  Thanks for your help.
[18:38] <ccherrett> I just did a system update and now my network connections will not work, wired and wireless
[18:39] <genii> foot: Keep us posted
[18:39] <terminal08> hi
[18:39] <genii> Back
[18:39] <terminal08> hola
[18:39] <genii> !es | terminal08
[18:39] <genii> ccherrett: You hae rebooted since or not?
[18:40] <ccherrett> genii: yes I have rebooted
[18:40] <terminal08> hello
[18:40] <ccherrett> genii: ifconfig shows no ip addresses
[18:40] <ccherrett> genii: dmesg shows eth0 and eth1 as saying link not ready
[18:41] <afeijo_BR> my firefox 3.0.10 keep closing by itself :(
[18:41] <genii> ccherrett: There is currently some issue with wifi and wpa on Jaunty. Your wired connection might be another thing
[18:42] <terminal08> hola
[18:42] <ccherrett> genii: any suggestions?
[18:42] <genii> afeijo: Try running it without your adons:   firefox -safe-mode
[18:42] <supremo> hola
[18:42] <genii> supremo / terminal08:  Please stop that
[18:43] <afeijo> genii: it works for several minutes, and close. I will try with the safe mode
[18:43] <|PaperTiger|> If I wanted to backup everything, what would be the dir I use? /root?
[18:44] <genii> ccherrett: Have you tried something like:    sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0              to see if it will release/renew for instance?
[18:45] <genii> |PaperTiger|: To back up the root. or the place to put the backup?
[18:45] <|PaperTiger|> To backup the whole system (Settings, data, packages installed etc) to another HDD
[18:46] <|PaperTiger|> genii, basically an image of my Kubuntu install
[18:48] <genii> |PaperTiger|: Then you want /   for everything (not /root which is just root users home dir)
[18:48] <|PaperTiger|> genii, okay. Thank you
[18:49] <genii> |PaperTiger|: Alternately boot to livecd and use something like dd if=/dev/sda of=/mountpoint/diskname/backup.img            or similar
[18:50] <MushroomKingdom> :( arrg! My sound keeps on failing, and the fallback doesn't work!
[18:50] <|PaperTiger|> genii, could do, but that sounds a little complex. I'm going to use sbackup and use the incremental backup feature to an external HDD
[18:51] <genii> |PaperTiger|: I would suggest to remount the / read-only beforehand. Otherwise the data is trying to copy is dynamically altering itself
[18:52] <|PaperTiger|> genii, and how would I do that?
[18:52] <genii> |PaperTiger|: Also exclude from copying: /proc /tmp /sys
[18:53] <genii> |PaperTiger|: Usually something like: mount -o remount,ro /
[18:53] <genii> |PaperTiger|: (with sudo)
[18:54] <|PaperTiger|> genii, is there an easy way to totally back up my system settings and all?
[18:54] <genii> |PaperTiger|: You can reverse it after with rw instead of ro
[18:54] <genii> |PaperTiger|: I told you of the dd method. It is a bit by bit copy of a hd or partition to a file or another partition
[18:55] <genii> AFK, work once more
[18:55] <afeijo> genii: without add-ons, Firefox closed after that brief time using it
[18:56] <ccherrett> genii: could it be the kernel is screwed up?
[18:56] <ccherrett> genii: man this whole update thing in ubuntu is crazy
[18:56] <ccherrett> it needs to slow down :)
[18:58] <ccherrett> genii: hmm into a different kernel and still no connections
[18:58] <ccherrett> genii: I tried your commands but they timed out
[19:00] <supremo> escriban en castellano
[19:00] <genii> Work is going to need me for about 5 minutes. Hang on and I'll return shortly
[19:06] <genii> Back
[19:06] <agag> http://www.marie-wird-entjungfert.net/?uid=59575
[19:07] <genii> supremo: La ayuda en la lengua del español debe ser encontrada en el #ubuntu-es y no aquí. Renuncia por favor.
[19:07] <LjL> !ops | agag
[19:07] <genii> ccherrett: My first inclination is to check the wiring
[19:08] <supremo> wtf
[19:08] <Pici> supremo: excuse me?
[19:08] <supremo> nunca me rendire deprobado
[19:08] <genii> supremo:  /join #ubuntu-es
[19:09]  * genii hands Pici some coffee
[19:12] <rbuels> in 9.04, what's the preferred way to manage the /etc/rc*.d/ startup links
[19:13] <genii> afeijo: OK, try with: --no-xshm  and let me know if still same
[19:13] <rbuels> i seem to recall there was something in the KDE system settings a while ago, can't seem to find it now
[19:14] <genii> rbuels: I usually use the update-rc.d tool
[19:16] <LinuxApe> My systemsettings application does not have the software manager or printer config apps in it?  Anyone know why this might be?
[19:16] <rbuels> genii: that's a good tool, but it seems like there used to be a graphical one in the kde system settings somewhere
[19:16] <LinuxApe> That's after a jaunty upgrade, btw.
[19:20] <tgreiser> Anyone else having trouble with kwallet since upgrading to 9.04?  When I try to run kwalletmanager manually I get:
[19:20] <tgreiser> <unknown program name>(24466)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server
[19:21] <tgreiser> <unknown program name>(24465)/: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.
[19:21] <tobi_> After the command "pon dsl-provider" to get online-access this returns: "RP-PPPoE plugin version 3.8p compiled against pppd 2.4.5" is that ok, sounds bad!?
[19:21] <luis__> p_quarles sorry i forgot what are the commands on kubuntu to edit?? ksudo??
[19:24] <luis__> i mean instead of gedit?
[19:25] <afeijo> genii: yes, it just closed
[19:27] <genii> afeijo: Hm. It seems always after the same length of time it closes, or the amount of time varies?
[19:27] <genii> luis__: kdesudo kate /name-of/file-to/edit
[19:28] <afeijo> genii: I didnt pay attention to how much time, I thought it was while I was using the browser, but the 2nd last one I wasnt using
[19:28] <genii> tobi_: That message is not to be concerning. It just tells what compiler was used to make the app
[19:29] <tobi_> nice... !
[19:29] <genii> afeijo: After opening firefox, close all tabs except one. Put that tabon some url with no flash content and then let it sit for a while and see if it closes again after a while
[19:29]  * rysiek|pl afk: Gone away for now.
[19:30] <tobi_> thx a lot ... this chan is teaching me stuff! Great job ...
[19:30] <Pici> !away > rysiek|pl
[19:30] <rysiek|pl> Pici: my bad, forgot I was also on #kubuntu
[19:30] <squid0> hi. kded4 is hogging massive percentages of my cpu usage. what's the story?
[19:31] <homy> Hi! Firefox looks *really* ugly in KDE. How can I integrate it?
[19:32] <luis__> txs a lot
[19:38] <kaddi> there is no easy way to downgrade from jaunty back to intrepid, is there?
[19:38] <genii> kaddi: Exactly
[19:38] <kaddi> :/
[19:43] <myrtilles> is there an easy way to uninstall the fixes that for networkmanager that where release today/yesterday for jaunty?
[19:44] <linuxguy> hi guys
[19:45] <kaddi> how can i uninstall updates i installed earlier this day
[19:45] <linuxguy> just wanted to say I switch from debian to kbuntu on my eee pc.
[19:45] <kaddi> ?
[19:46] <linuxguy> and i love kd4 on it, you guys rock.
[19:46] <Riddell> **  Kubuntu Q & A session in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom (questions to #ubuntu-classroom-chat)
[19:46] <genii> Yay!
[19:47] <kaddi> !wcid
[19:48] <genii> !info wicd
[19:48] <linuxguy> and i love kd4 on it, you guys rock. I upgraded the application launcher went from have an button you pressed to display it to showing the whole menu, is there any way I can get that back?
[19:50] <myrtilles> i was installing a program when jaunty froze, i can still move the mouse, but the system doesn't react to mouseclicks or keyboard. can i just shut it down, or will this corrupt the installtion?
[19:51] <linuxguy> went from 8.x to 9.04, btw its awesome how it runs from a usb drive. I love being able to take my os on my thumbdrive, if my computer breaks all I have to do is find another usb booting computer and I am off.
[19:52] <myrtilles> linuxguy i envy you. :p went from 8.x to 9.04 now, 9 times out of 10 wireless isn't working and when it starts working, the whole pc just freezes up :(
[19:52] <linuxguy> really? everything is working fine for me.
[19:52] <linuxguy> do you have a eee?
[19:53] <Pollywog> Dolphin seems a little buggy and is missing service menus.  Is there a way to get the device applet to open usb drives in Konqueror instead of Dolphin?
[19:53] <myrtille> no, i don't have a eee, i have an acer-laptop.
[19:53] <linuxguy> well there is one thing, I have lost the ability to type in widgets.
[19:54] <linuxguy> like I cant use the dictionary widget anymore
[19:54] <linuxguy> or anyother widget you can type into, like application launcher
[19:55] <myrtille> that still works on my end :)
[19:55] <Pollywog> linuxguy: maybe the virtual keyboard in KDE (Jaunty)?
[19:55] <ralmar> Hey guys, Im getting this errror  failed to bind to address 127.0.0.1[4500] with kvpnc. Is there a command i can use to see what process is using 127.0.0.1 port 500? Thanks
[19:56] <Pollywog> I used that when I had a laptop that did not like the keyboard
[19:56] <linuxguy> well myrtille you can get an eee for like $169 at bestbuy. then go get a 32 gig thumb drive and install kbuntu onto it and have a laptop with a 32gig drive.
[19:56] <Pollywog> I have a HP2133 that I got from Tigerdirect for $300 and it runs Jaunty great
[19:56] <myrtille> i have a working vista installation on the pc... for the time being it's quicker, more reliable and better to use thatn jaunty, so I'm gonna stick with that for a while, till they manage to remove the biggest bugs
[19:57] <linuxguy> myrtille I bet if you did a clean install of jaunty it would work.
[19:58] <linuxguy> i dont know kbuntu but I have run debian for years and have had that happen before. usually when packages were in a mess and I decided to upgrade.
[19:58] <Pollywog> one drawback to the hp2133 is that wifi does not work well in Kubuntu desktop but in Ubuntu desktop (Gnome) it worked out of the box for me
[19:59] <linuxguy> hmm, thats wierd. you can always get a usb one. does it have minipci or pcie
[19:59] <myrtille> especially the wireless problem is a reported bug and not just some screw up in packages... i haven't really got the time for a clean install anyways.. just hoping they'll fix the problems
[20:00] <linuxguy> my same  question, if you have a pcie slot you can always put in another wireless card if your card isnt already in it. and they are cheap. just check the chipset before buying
[20:01] <myrtille> Pollywog: yes wifi is kind of bad on kubuntu. knetworkmanager and the widget aren't working. the nm-applet is working though
[20:01] <linuxguy> i like the nm-applet.
[20:01] <myrtille> linuxguy: i can connect to unprotected wifi, but everything encoded isn't working with knetworkmanager or the widget
[20:02] <linuxguy> i like the nm-applet.I got rid of the default panel at the bottom and use widgets for everything.
[20:02] <linuxguy> since I only have a 7inch screen i needed the screen space.
[20:03] <linuxguy> myrtille that sucks. I would find a good usb wifi card. that way you can use it on whatever computer you want.
[20:04] <linuxguy> hawking makes a good one with an external antenna connector
[20:04] <linuxguy> and it has real linux support rt 73
[20:05] <myrtille> linuxguy: the problem is not the card, i already tried another (external) card. Still the same :I can connect to unprotected wifi, but not to protected. Knetworkmanager doesn't even react if I try to select an encoded netowrk
[20:06] <linuxguy> really hmm let me try.
[20:12] <linuxguy> hi myrtille it seemed to work ok for me.
[20:14] <myrtille> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/348275
[20:14] <myrtille> one of many bugreports concerning this problems
[20:14] <myrtille> just try wpa jaunty networkmanager bug on google, you'll get plenty of hits
[20:17] <linuxguy> oh, wpa
[20:17] <linuxguy> I use wep.
[20:18] <genii> nixternal: Bah, swine flu
[20:19] <linuxguy> sorry but i hear about swine flu one more time i am going to have to hit someone.
[20:20] <genii> linuxguy: Apologies, wrong channel.
[20:22] <go7hic> can some1 tell me what's the difference to install firefox browser manually or through kpackagekit? i'm new to linux :(
[20:23] <go7hic> anybody?
[20:24] <tsimpson> go7hic: what do you mean by "manually"?
[20:25] <go7hic> like, downloading it and entering commands in console...
[20:25] <go7hic> versus just clicking once on the name in kpackagekit?
[20:27] <go7hic> hmm?
[20:27] <tsimpson> go7hic: firstly, it's easier to download from the GUI installer, and it'll get all the dependencies you need
[20:27] <tsimpson> if you install manually, you'll probably have to compile it and it'll take forever and probably fail
[20:27] <tsimpson> plus it'll take forever
[20:28] <tsimpson> so go with the pre-build version we offer and save yourself a lot of time and hassle
[20:28] <go7hic> right... so what's the point of choice?
[20:28] <go7hic> i mean why ppl do it manually sometimes?
[20:29] <ktmini> hi folks
[20:29] <go7hic> can you tell me what's nobinonly means?
[20:30] <michael_> hello world!
[20:30] <myrtille> hello michal :D
[20:30] <myrtille> *michael_
[20:30] <michael_> anybody know how to get adobe video on a G3 iBook  Geee
[20:31] <michael_> oops
[20:31] <drbobb> ugh, something seems to be broken in jaunty's alternate cd
[20:31] <drbobb> it appears to be generating broken lvm-based installs
[20:32] <ktmini> hi. could s.o. tell me how a bash script can complete questions from a fortran program it called? (eg when the fortran prog ask: "read*,n")
[20:32] <LinuxApe> Anyone else having printing problems since updating to jaunty?
[20:32] <drbobb> yeah, my printer died at about the same time
[20:33] <drbobb> ;-O
[20:33] <tiresias> bonjour tout le monde
[20:33] <ranfo> salve a tutti
[20:33] <ktmini> salut
[20:33] <tiresias>  une petite question par rapport à le netinst de debian lenny: personne n'a de problème pour booter sur le cd netins pour l'architecture 64 bit?
[20:34] <holyguyver> I accidently hid the uppermost menu in konqueror, how do I show it again?
[20:34] <drbobb> !fr
[20:34] <_gl> s there a way of storing the wifi point passkeys in the kwallet and kwallet not asking for a password to access these?
[20:34] <tiresias> (désolé de demander ici mais personne réponds nulle part sur l'irc de debian...)
[20:34] <myrtille> !fr |tiresias
[20:34] <tiresias> bonjour tout lemonde
[20:34] <holyguyver> please help
[20:34] <tiresias>  une petite question par rapport à le netinst de debian lenny: personne n'a de problème pour booter sur le cd netins pour l'architecture 64 bit?
[20:35] <holyguyver> I accidently hid the uppermost menu in konqueror, how do I show it again?
[20:36] <myrtille> tiresias tu n'auras pas de réponse en francais sur ce channel. Si tu as besoin d'aide merci de taper /join #kubuntu-fr pour joindre un channel francais
[20:36] <holyguyver> I accidently hid the uppermost menu in konqueror, how do I show it again?
[20:37] <_gl> ctl+m
[20:37] <holyguyver> _gl, Thank you :0
[20:37] <holyguyver> :)
[20:37] <_gl> ;)
[20:39] <jnooraga_> Why is the default sorting order for every QT file dialog in Descending instead of Ascending?
[20:39] <jnooraga_> Is this a configurable option somewhere?
[20:41] <ktmini> please could s.o. tell me how a bash script can complete questions from a fortran program it called? (eg when the fortran prog ask: "read*,n")
[20:42] <amgarchIn9> anybody else observes slow cursor motion in vim after upgrade to 9.04??
[20:46] <jarle> using Quassel for the first time, how do I prevent it from displaying a message each time a user enters/leaves the channel?
[20:46] <ktmini> please at least tell me if my question isn't understandable.. :s
[20:47] <amgarchIn9> ktmini: program < input, or cat input | program
[20:48] <PROject-Emerald> Is there a linux-equivelant to iTunes for my iPod?
[20:48] <tsimpson> !itunes
[20:49] <PROject-Emerald> Is there something that lets me put music ON my ipod?
[20:49] <ktmini> thx for answerin! Nevertheless i'm not sure I get it..
[20:49] <tsimpson> PROject-Emerald: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[20:50] <afeijo> damn, I changed my theme and now my toolbar is gone
[20:50] <amgarchIn9> ktmini: google for "bash input redirection"
[20:50] <repbolivar> hay alguien que hable español???
[20:50] <PROject-Emerald> thanks, tsimpson
[20:50] <tsimpson> !es | repbolivar
[20:51] <ktmini> ok. nice of you amgarchIn9 (BTW how do I send a msg at your adress)
[20:52] <afeijo> how to restore the toolbar ?
[20:56] <robby_> Hello
[20:56] <robby_> I have a question about the favorites menu in the kickoff menu. How do I hide it or move it?
[20:59] <michael_> anybody??  are there plugins for Kbuntu PPC on G3  that will work with youtube?  Thanks
[21:00] <genii> michael_: Maybe ask in #ubuntu-powerpc
[21:00] <michael_> thanks,,  noobe here
[21:02] <dewd> so after my upgrade to jaunty my intel gm945 sux in compiz is there an fix ?
[21:02] <michael_> #ubuntu-powerpc
[21:02] <michael_> oops'
[21:05] <Rue-kun> Can anyone help me with my menus?
[21:05] <ktmini> !fr
[21:05] <ktmini> !players
[21:06] <Rue-kun> .....
[21:09] <marthe> can anyone help me with my postfix?
[21:10] <marthe> i have to configurate postfix with UNOCONV
[21:10] <delphiuk> um, fresh install, display resolution too small and no xorg.conf. Any ideas?
[21:11] <genii> marthe: You may get more comprehensive postfix help in #ubuntu-server
[21:11] <Rue-kun> I need an extremely skilled persons help
[21:11] <marthe> but i don't know how to do with Unoconv
[21:12] <dwidmann> !ask | Rue-kun
[21:12] <genii> marthe: unoconv doesn't have much to do with Postfix
[21:12] <genii> !info unoconv
[21:12] <genii> eg ^
[21:13] <Rue-kun> Ok then do you know how to hide the favorites menu oh great kubuntu god ^_^
[21:13] <marthe> thanks
[21:14] <dwidmann> Rue-kun: you mean in the kickoff menu? I don't think you can ... not sure its configurable at all really
[21:15] <Rue-kun> Oh ok. Thank you
[21:16] <dwidmann> Rue-kun: I wish it were too ... seeing as the "classic" menu in KDE4 is crippled compared to its KDE3 counterpart
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> both menus will be much more configurable in KDE 4.3
[21:16] <dwidmann> JontheEchidna: good to hear
[21:16] <JontheEchidna> the classic menu will even get back the "recently used applications" feature
[21:17] <JontheEchidna> though, truth be told, I never liked that feature :P
[21:17] <Rue-kun> Ummm new problem (Sorry I am new to Kubuntu) I can't open any folders. It asks me what to open it wil.
[21:17] <Rue-kun> with**
[21:17] <genii> JontheEchidna: I did :)
[21:17] <dwidmann> Rue-kun: that's very, very odd.
[21:17] <delphiuk> Can someone tell me why I don't have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[21:17] <Rue-kun> It says open with dolphin and I don't have that
[21:17] <JontheEchidna> I mostly use krunner nowadays, so I don't care that much about the menu widgets
[21:18] <dwidmann> delphiuk: it's pretty much deprecated ... X figures out what it needs to know on the fly
[21:18] <ratpoison> hello! Jaunty amd64 user.  ATI x1950 (r500) with compositing enabled via kwin. vlc segfaults like this: http://pastebin.ca/54
[21:18] <dwidmann> delphiuk: Of course, if you need to specify things, you can create one
[21:18] <ratpoison> hmmm sorry wrong paste
[21:18] <delphiuk> dwidmann: right, well, I it's got it wrong here. I have a 800x600 resolution and "terrible" performance
[21:18] <dwidmann> ratpoison: try switching video out drivers
[21:19] <delphiuk> dwidmann: ah, right, so I just need to find one then for my card?
[21:19] <ratpoison> dwidmann: only radeonhd is availabe for my card, catalyst support was dropped in 9.3
[21:19] <yoanis> hi there
[21:20] <dwidmann> ratpoison: I meant switching between things like Xv, OpenGL, X11, SDL, etc
[21:20] <yoanis> just upgraded to kubuntu 9.04 and noticed one CPU is 100% all the time
[21:20] <yoanis> because of process kded4
[21:20] <dwidmann> delphiuk: That's no fun
[21:20] <ratpoison> dwidmann: plus, it used to run, then I did something with the settings (I tried to configure vlc for single video mode) and it wouldn't start.
[21:21] <jnooraga_> Is anyone else getting the issue where the default sort order in file dialogs is Descending instead of Ascending?
[21:21] <delphiuk> dwidmann: :) well, I don't fancy doing it myself... but I really need to get this understood. this is the 4th machine it's happened on :(
[21:22] <yoanis> anyone has experienced a similar issue, i have an nvidia geforge 7200 go card
[21:22] <yoanis> ?
[21:23] <genii> delphiuk: You can create a prototype xorg.conf file by passing X that option to make one. eg: xorg -configure                 or so
[21:24] <amgarchIn9> crw-rw----+ 1 root video 226, 0 2009-04-29 20:08 card0  ?? whats that plus? See for the first time
[21:24] <delphiuk> gene:  thanks i'll try that
[21:24] <hosam> can i find a help to operate twinhan satalite card with ubuntu
[21:26] <yaa_> :(
[21:28] <amgarchIn9> never mind, that is an ACL. getacl shows them
[21:30] <Dekans> Do you manage to play a video DVD with Jaunty ?
[21:31] <Rue-kun> Does Kubuntu have a built in bittorrent
[21:31] <Unksi> Rue-kun: ktorrent
[21:31] <Rue-kun> You guys are truely AMAZING
[21:33] <anbesaw> anyone  use dd-wrt for hotspot setup
[21:33] <drbobb> i'll be pulling my hairs out. I keep getting grub's error 17 post-install, no matter what
[21:35] <si> Is this the right place to ask for help setting mPlayer up for playing DVDs?
[21:36] <rmrfslash> I posted something on here earlier, maybe someone new can help. I have kubuntu 9.04 + fglrx + opengl compositing desktop effects. Resume from suspend returns w/ a black screen and some lines at the top of the display. If I use XRender compositing or no desktop effects at all, everything is fine. Anyone come up w/ a solution for this?
[21:36] <Dekans> Is it possible to play a video dvd on Kubuntu Jaunty ?
[21:37] <rmrfslash> Dekans: should be... i think you need some dvd playback component from apt-get
[21:37] <Dekans> rmrfslash: I have libdvdread 3 and 4 installed
[21:38] <Rue-kun> Best app every Wine
[21:39] <Dragnslcr> !dvd | Dekans
[21:40] <rmrfslash> !ati
[21:40] <Dragnslcr> Dekans- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs is probably the exact page you want
[21:41] <Dekans> I'm seeing it
[21:41] <Dekans> on my desktop it works but on my laptop it was not enough :/
[22:02] <HSNews> How to select where GRUB to install???
[22:02] <HSNews> I install kubuntu, but it install GRUB on master hard. wtf? (( whete GRUB Install Prompt?!
[22:12] <rpower> How to select where to install GRUB?
[22:12] <rpower> How to select where to install GRUB?
[22:14] <rpower> DAMN
[22:14] <rpower> Can somebody tell me?!
[22:16] <wirechief> rpower some users choose to put it in the partiton but most use the mbr
[22:16] <rpower> wirechief, where I can set destination for GRUB? when I install it don't asks me
[22:17] <ScorpKing> rpower: hd0
[22:17] <rpower> When i install Kubuntu, it do not asked me!!
[22:17] <wirechief> rpower for jaunty ?
[22:17] <rpower> ?
[22:18] <matt_> I'm having problems syncing my iPod with Amarok since upgrading to Jaunty.  It's mounting correctly, and I'm able to browse and play songs from it, but unable to transfer anything new to it.  New interface doesn't really seem to have anything about transferring the queue.  Any advice?
[22:18] <wirechief> kubuntu jaunty
[22:18] <rpower> damn
[22:18] <matt_> i"m having this problem in both KDE and Gnome.
[22:20] <ScorpKing> rpower: what happened?
[22:21] <ScorpKing> rpower: did it not install at all?
[22:21] <rpower> Where to select direction for GRUB installation?
[22:21] <rpower> It install himself to primary HDD, but i don't want it
[22:21] <rpower> I want to install GRUB only to external HDD
[22:21] <rpower> but I haven't change to choose direction for GRUB
[22:22] <ScorpKing> rpower: are you booting from the external drive?
[22:22] <rpower> nope
[22:22] <rpower> but I want to do it
[22:22] <rpower> I want boot from external
[22:22] <ScorpKing> ah ok
[22:22] <rpower> I have Laptop with Vista. on hdd.
[22:23] <rpower> I connect to laptop external HDD. And I want to install Kubuntu on external, and GRUB on external
[22:23] <rpower> And do not touch internal HDD, and it MBR sectors
[22:23] <ScorpKing> rpower: is kubuntu allready installed on the external drive?
[22:24] <rpower> no, I format it
[22:24] <rpower> mb try to install from Alternate CD?
[22:24] <rpower> I read in internet, that, in Alternate I can choos GRUB direction
[22:24] <ScorpKing> rpower: or you can install grub afterwards
[22:25] <rpower> how? How to 'Do not install GRUB'?
[22:25] <kkerwin> Hi. I just installed Jaunty, and my sound cards are no longer being detected. They are ATI SBx00 Azalia and ATI RS780 Azalia.
[22:25] <ScorpKing> rpower: you must edit /boot/grub/device.map first on the external drive
[22:26] <ScorpKing> rpower: is your external drive /dev/hdb in kubuntu?
[22:27] <rpower> > /dev/sdb
[22:27] <rpower> my external HDD: /dev/sdb
[22:27] <rpower> But GRUB install himself to /dev/sda (primary hdd)
[22:27] <rpower> and do not asks me :(
[22:27] <ScorpKing> rpower: ok. you must edit /boot/grub/device.map
[22:28] <ScorpKing> rpower: put the line (hd0)   /dev/sdb
[22:28] <ScorpKing> rpower: the best is to boot from the live cd. mount your external drive to /mnt
[22:28] <rpower> my external is empty
[22:29] <ScorpKing> rpower: then run - sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt --no-floppy hd0
[22:29] <rpower> and if i try to install kubuntu, I've got trouble with primary MBR
[22:29] <ScorpKing> rpower: that will install grub for you
[22:29] <ScorpKing> rpower: use the alternative cd then
[22:29] <rpower> Okay thanks, but how to install kubuntu on external without installing GRUB?
[22:30] <rpower> I have't checkbox or radiobutton in installation menu
[22:31] <wirechief> rpower maybe you can use the usb startup disk creator to install to the usb drive
[22:31] <wirechief> rpower can you boot fromj usb ?
[22:31] <wirechief> from
[22:31] <rpower> ok... I'll try to install from Alternate CD :)
[22:31] <ScorpKing> wirechief: that will only copy the iso contents to the disk and make it the same as a livecd
[22:32] <wirechief> rpower you would need the .iso
[22:32] <ScorpKing> rpower: alternate cd install is not easy if you've never done it. please google first
[22:32] <wirechief> ScorpKing but cant he use persistence too with that ?
[22:33] <ScorpKing> wirechief: should be able to but i've never tried it myself
[22:33] <luis_> hi guys has any of u have had installed the scan feature of an epson stylus cx5600?
[22:33] <wirechief> ScorpKing: but that seems to be a big waste if its a large usb drive ;)
[22:33] <luis_> i am trying and i did follow some very simple steps but no matter what i do i just cant get it to work and i do really need it
[22:33] <wirechief> ScorpKing took me forever to get 4gb of persistence with that program
[22:33] <luis_> can somebody assist me pls?
[22:34] <ScorpKing> wirechief: it is. i only use it to install eee pc's and so on and it's the same size as the iso
[22:34] <luis_> i am kinnda desperate
[22:35] <wirechief> ScorpKing: i suspect it  thinks there is a bios issue and wont do a real install to usb but remapping sounds like it might work
[22:35] <ScorpKing> luis_: nothing on google?
[22:35] <luis_> yes
[22:36] <ScorpKing> wirechief: that's what i'd use but isn't there an option to install kubuntu inside windows without partioning?
[22:36] <luis_> i did follow this gui: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 step by step
[22:36] <luis_> everything runs fine
[22:36] <kkerwin> Hi. I just installed Jaunty, and my sound cards are no longer being detected. They are ATI SBx00 Azalia and ATI RS780 Azalia. Thank you in advance for your help.
[22:36] <luis_> but in the end i cannot get it to work
[22:36] <wirechief> ScorpKing yes
[22:36] <ScorpKing> luis_: try to scan as root
[22:36] <wirechief> ScorpKing its called wubi
[22:37] <ScorpKing> wirechief: aparently the new version is a lot better
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> !sound > kkerwin
[22:37] <luis_> how
[22:37] <luis_> how do i scan as root?
[22:37] <ScorpKing> luis_: how do you scan now?
[22:37] <luis_> i dont
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> ScorpKing: or you can install to a usb stick of about 4Gb
[22:37] <luis_> thats what iam saying
[22:37] <luis_> it just dont work
[22:38] <ScorpKing> rpower: what program do you have for scanning?
[22:38] <wirechief> ScorpKing: well i saw a ubuntu forum thread where a guy was wanting to do basically the same as what rpower wants (suppose to of worked for him)
[22:38] <luis_> ause after finish i click on the Xsane applications but it wont recognize the scan feature
[22:39] <ScorpKing> rpower: start the program that you want to scan from with - kdesudo programname
[22:39] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip: That bit of ubottu's brain is old. There is no longer "Sound System" under "System Settings". And ARTS is no longer used by default.
[22:39] <kkerwin> !sound
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: ah
[22:40] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip: But thank you for trying! :-)
[22:40] <ScorpKing> ActionParsnip: do you know of an online guide that rpower can follow?
[22:40] <BluesKaj> i think the ops should look at the infobots info and bring it up to date , that parh just given no longer exists.
[22:41] <ScorpKing> luis_: : start the program that you want to scan from with - kdesudo programname
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> kkerwin: looks like an intel hda
[22:41] <luis_> ok
[22:41] <kkerwin> ActionParsnip: Yessir!
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> !intelhda | kkerwin
[22:41] <ScorpKing> kkerwin: you're not alone
[22:41] <kkerwin> Mierda ...
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> ScorpKing: wassup?
[22:41] <ian__> Not to confuse, but another ?, is there any equivalent to creating a .hidden file in nautilus and listing all hidden files in kubuntu?
[22:41] <kkerwin> ScorpKing: That's not exactly encouraging information ... Lol.
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> ian__: ls -a
[22:41] <luis_> ok
[22:42] <luis_> i do got xsane
[22:42] <luis_> and it does start
[22:42] <ian__> In terminal? <action parsnip>
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> ian__: always :)
[22:42] <ScorpKing> kkerwin: let me see if i can wake someone to explain the solution to you :)
[22:42] <luis_> but i clcik on it and the goes scanning for devices and end up saying no devices available
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> ian__: it shows all files including hidden ones
[22:43] <luis_> o some other thing it does turn off my scan
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> !scan
[22:43] <kkerwin> ScorpKing: Oh, thank you very much!
[22:43] <ian__> Action Parsnip- gave me a list of files- what now?
[22:43] <ScorpKing> ActionParsnip: kubuntu seems to have permission problems with scanners.
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> ian__: i thought thats what you wanted?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ScorpKing: then use kdesudo to launch the app
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ScorpKing: maybe its a group membership
[22:44] <ian__> ActionParsnip: No, I wanted to make files hidden without adding a . infront.
[22:44] <luis_> so
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> ian__: you cant, thats how its done in linux
[22:44] <ScorpKing> luis_: any luck scanning as root?
[22:45] <luis_> noo
[22:45] <luis_> xsane works
[22:45] <luis_> but it says no devices available
[22:45] <luis_> my scan is on
[22:45] <ian__> ActionParsnip: They are program files, and if I make the dot the program errors and can't find the files.
[22:45] <ian__> But oh well
[22:45] <ScorpKing> luis_: maybe the drivers didn't load
[22:46] <luis_> maybe
[22:46] <luis_> well something else
[22:46] <luis_> i did download this: iscan-2.10.0-1c2.i386.r
[22:46] <luis_> from a web i found on google
[22:47] <luis_> and when i click on it it gave me the option to open it with KpackageKit
[22:47] <luis_> but then in the middle of installing it says error
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> luis_: .r ?
[22:47] <luis_> and stops installint
[22:47] <luis_> yes i found thos in some web page
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> luis_: so the filename ends in .r ?
[22:48] <luis_> rpm
[22:48] <luis_> sorry
[22:48] <ScorpKing> kkerwin: can i paste a buch of text for you?
[22:48] <kkerwin> Sure.
[22:49] <joshjtl> hey folks, I have a major bug that causes fatal lockups, and apparently there is a fix for it... add a line to /etc/default/halt file, I did, is there anywhere i can check to see if adding the line does anything at all?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> !rppm | luis_
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> !rpm
[22:49] <luis_> here is the page where i found that acually the gui says to download 2 of them http://jrballesteros05.blogspot.com/2007/11/escaner-epson-stylus-cx5600-en-ubuntu.html
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> luis_: rpm is for redhat, i'd get the source and compile it so you get less issues
[22:50] <luis_> yes i c
[22:50] <Guest1598> vekulice..............
[22:50] <luis_> well dont matter action
[22:50] <luis_> it doesnt work as well
[22:50] <luis_> i already try those but wont work
[22:51] <qwertyuiop96> What do people think of 9.04?
[22:51] <luis_> is that jackalope?
[22:52] <luis_> i think is nice
[22:52] <qwertyuiop96> Yes
[22:52] <mefisto__> luis_: have you seen this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471
[22:52] <luis_> but i cant get to work my scan function
[22:52] <qwertyuiop96> KDE 4.2 is AWSOME!!
[22:52] <luis_> let me c it
[22:52] <qwertyuiop96> In my opinion
[22:52]  * wirechief well the awe died quickly for me
[22:53] <drbobb> dammit, no linux bootloader wants to work on my old laptop
[22:53] <qwertyuiop96> The new oxygen menubar is pretty cool
[22:53] <qwertyuiop96> Sorry, off topic
[22:54] <luis_> i am following what u gave me mefisto
[22:54] <luis_> let me c if that works
[22:55] <mefisto__> drbobb: what is failing? does grub start up?
[22:56] <ScorpKing> rpower: will you manage?
[22:57] <BluesKaj> well , gotta do some windows stuff and have some dinner for a couple of hrs ...BBL
[22:58] <perso> bonjour
[22:59] <perso> j'ai un pb d'affichage sur kubuntu 9.0.4 qqun peut m'aider svp?
[22:59] <mefisto__> !fr
[23:00] <luis_> ok
[23:00] <virus2009> hey guys i gota problem with my music like skipping when i move my mouse around or open new apps. i have a 2ghz and 2 gigs i dunno its like if the cpu comes under a load it starts to skip
[23:01] <virus2009> my computer is a laptop compaq dunno if this helps
[23:02] <luis_> mefisto it says enter the directory and it gives this command: fakeroot alien iscan*.rpm, but whe i paste that it appers this: File "iscan*.rpm" not found
[23:04] <mefisto__> luis_: try replacing "iscan*.rpm" with the full name of the file you have
[23:04] <luis_> i just did
[23:04] <luis_> and..
[23:05] <luis_> let me paste bin so u can c
[23:05] <chronic> can someone help add the menu bar in kde4?
[23:05] <drbobb> on grub I get stuck at error 17
[23:05] <drbobb> with lilo, it's code 99
[23:05] <drbobb> I'm beginning to suspect a buggy bios
[23:06] <drbobb> ahh yes it looks like it's some form of a 137GB limit biting
[23:07] <luis_> mefisto i did download both files and this is what happen with the first file, i havent move forward since i want to make sure in here : http://pastebin.com/m4c062952
[23:07] <chronic> can someone help add the menu bar in kde4?
[23:07] <luis_> so i believe both files need to be done apart right?
[23:08] <drbobb> mefisto__: grub fails reporting error 17 after loading stage1.5, but before it gets to a menu or command line
[23:08] <luis_> so if so in here the next step says to debianize, what does that means how do i do that?
[23:10] <chronic> can someone help add the menu bar in kde4?
[23:10] <luis_> lets c chronic
[23:10] <luis_> u want to add the icon of the menu on the panel right?
[23:11] <chronic> i accidently closed the manu bar
[23:11] <luis_> simple
[23:11] <luis_> get the cursor on any side of the panel
[23:11] <chronic> luis_: i mean the whole panel is gone
[23:11] <luis_> right click and find: "add widgets"  and then look for it
[23:11] <luis_> uuuu
[23:12] <luis_> thats other thing
[23:12] <sevenhill> chronic:  just delete .kde and .kde4 folders in your home directory and restart kde
[23:12] <luis_> that i dont know sorry
[23:12] <chronic> kk
[23:15] <mefisto__> chronic: right-click desktop, add panel
[23:16] <virus2009> can anyone help me with my problem? my sound when under load comes out really paused it pauses then plays pause then play
[23:17] <sevenhill> virus2009: are you using pulseaudio ?
[23:17] <virus2009> sevenhill: im using amarok
[23:17] <sevenhill> if it is be sure that your user added to its pulse-rt group
[23:18] <virus2009> what is pulseaudio?
[23:18] <sevenhill> amarok is a application pulseaudio is a sound system
[23:18] <luis_> mefisto i got this on the second step: http://pastebin.com/m4c062952 and then it says that i need to debianize how do i do that whats that?
[23:18] <sevenhill> just look in /etc/groups and say me if there is a pulse-rt in it
[23:19] <virus2009> im probably not using it then, but the music plays fine then starts to skip out when i start opening up applications and moving the mouse
[23:20] <sevenhill> virus2009:  in konsole type this :    cat /etc/group
[23:20] <sevenhill> and at the output look if there is pulse-rt or not
[23:21] <virus2009> sevenhill: one sec
[23:21] <virus2009> sevenhill i dont see it
[23:23] <sevenhill> virus2009: ok then it is not the bug i known
[23:23] <sevenhill> virus2009: then you have to ask someone else
[23:23] <sevenhill> sorry about keeping you busy
[23:23] <virus2009> naw your okay thank you
[23:24] <virus2009> maybe you might be able to help with a webcam? its a micro innovations ic445c i cant get the thing to work at all the light comes on in the front but is unreconized
[23:26] <MarcN> I have Ubuntu/Jaunty installed and want to also install the kde desktop.  Is this just a matter of adding more repositories and apt-get install kde-desktop (or such)? If so which repos.
[23:26] <mefisto__> luis_: "debianize" just means convert the .rpm to .deb (.deb is a debian install package) the alien command does this
[23:26] <luis_> ok
[23:26] <luis_> so thats 2 for 1 step
[23:26] <luis_> i c
[23:26] <luis_> now i move forward and do the same with the other file right?
[23:27] <rubyat> virus2009: does that webcam need the gspca kernel module?
[23:27] <luis_> or first i need to take one to the end?
[23:27] <mefisto__> luis_: try removing that directory iscan-2.10.0 and try the command again
[23:27] <luis_> ok
[23:27] <virus2009> i got the module downloaded but still nothing
[23:27] <luis_> done
[23:27] <luis_> it says deb generated
[23:27] <KiRiLoS> I am looking for a program to record a screencast,any suggestions?thanx
[23:27] <luis_> iscan_2.10.0-2_i386.deb generated
[23:28] <mefisto__> luis_: ok so you have that file? if you do, install it
[23:28] <luis_> ok
[23:29] <rmrfslash> Wow my kubuntu-devel experience was awesome
[23:29] <rmrfslash> they basically told me to go fix my own problems
[23:29] <rmrfslash> as in, download the source code and fix the problems with a proprietary driver.
[23:30] <rmrfslash> which is obviously possible
[23:32]  * rmrfslash is steaming
[23:32] <mefisto__> MarcN: no need to add repos. just install kubuntu-desktop
[23:34] <MarcN> mefisto__: thanks.
[23:37] <Calabero> would somebody please be able to tell me how to install Kubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1 when i keep getting an error booting from USB which dumps me to (initramfs)_ ?
[23:39] <Calabero> would somebody please be able to tell me how to install Kubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1 when i keep getting an error booting from USB which dumps me to (initramfs)_ ?
[23:41] <m1dn1ght> I've just upgraded from Hardy to Jaunty.  New version of Amarok seems nice but I can't figure out where to configure media devices to connect my ipod - can someone help please?
[23:43] <Calabero> would somebody please be able to tell me how to install Kubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1 when i keep getting an error booting from USB which dumps me to (initramfs)_ ?
[23:44] <mefisto__> m1dn1ght: there is a "media devices" widget you can add (the + button)
[23:45] <kris> !intelhda
[23:47] <edea86> Hi, the sytem settings applet shows me the "temperature" of my laptop. There are five temperature sensors, but there's no description of them, so I don't know if 51ºC is the temperature of my hdd, my graphic card...
[23:47] <Calabero> is anyone able to help with the initramfs problem?
[23:49] <wirechief> Calabero intramfs with usb creator ?
[23:49] <wirechief> initramfs
[23:50] <Calabero> i made a usb bootable drive using UNetBootin for Kubuntu - Latest, but this was after accidentally hitting the "factory recovery" selection in grub...when i realized my mistake it was too late and already rebooting. now it seems to be unable to locate my hard drive? im not sure im very new to this :$
[23:53] <KiRiLoS> for some reason every single screencast recording app i tried works awful,when i playback the video i recorded looks like the frames are messed.Maybe there is something else wrong ?:P I thought this was because of the Qt4 not being compatible with the apps...
[23:54] <wirechief> Calabero can you do pastebinit  and if so paste the results of  sudo fdisk -l >fdisk.tx   where fdisk.txt will hold the information, paste the url here
[23:55] <wirechief> make that fdisk.txt   not fdisk.tx
[23:57] <wirechief> Calabero maybe that wont work, just paste the results of fdisk-l
[23:57] <wirechief> !paste