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maxbmm, yeah, I was wondering at what point the big queue-builder run happens00:04
wgrantI guess it only needs to run after a new release or arch.00:15
wgrantAlthough,  no, that can't be right - P-a-s changes are normally respected quickly, so it normally runs often.00:16
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detI lost my gpg key, and there doesnt seem to be any obvious way to upload a new one to launchpad.03:03
SamBdet: sure there is!03:04
SamByou just go to edit your account and add a key03:04
detOk, I found it, thanks :-)03:05
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jmlMarvin_: I just saw your identica update -- not sure if it's in honour of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy or of the Radiohead song :)04:35
Marvin_jml, both :)04:35
jmlMarvin_: rockin04:36
* jml queues up _OK Computer_, sets the volume to "blisteringly loud" and starts singing -- ahhh, the joys of working from home.04:36
Marvin_:D04:36
Marvin_rocks04:37
mwhudsonMarvin_, jml: have you come across "radiodread" ?04:38
Marvin_mwhudson, lol, no04:38
jmlmwhudson: no. who or what is that?04:38
mwhudsonit's a dub version of ok computer04:38
mwhudsonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiodread04:39
mwhudsonit's a special kind of awesome :)04:39
mwhudsoni first heard it played over the PA between acts at a gig, which was quite brain-bending04:40
Marvin_brain-bending04:40
Marvin_must hear04:40
mwhudson"this sounds almost but not quite entirely unlike exit music... what's going on"04:41
jml:)04:41
mwhudsonMarvin_: you can hear samples on amazon04:42
Marvin_mwhudson, will listen :)04:43
mwhudsonhah, apparently the same guys just released Easy Star's Lonely Hearts Dub Band04:44
jmlpurchasing will ensue shortly.04:46
spivhttp://easystarrecords.shop.musictoday.com/Dept.aspx?cp=115_2052 seems to sell the FLACs, which is convenient.04:52
* spiv grabs some lunch04:52
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thumpermwhudson: I don't get the buildbot failures for db-devel05:47
thumpermwhudson, jml: do either of you understand it?05:47
mwhudsonthumper: wrong channel05:47
thumperdamn :(05:48
* thumper is tired05:48
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wgrantbigjools: Why is IArchive.getBuildSummariesForSourceIds exposed in the API? It looks useful, but I don't think SPPH IDs are exposed anywhere else...09:30
bigjoolswgrant: the AJAX calls09:30
wgrantbigjools: Ahh, right.09:30
wgrantSo it does do what I want.09:30
wgrantI think.09:31
wgrant(I want the statuses of theĀ builds for a particular SPPH on all archs)09:32
wgrantbigjools: Watching the AJAX calls, that's exactly what I want. Can I file a bug to let that take method take SPPHs, or expose SPPH.id, or something to that effect?09:36
bigjoolswgrant: sure go for it09:36
wgrantISPPH.getBuilds is unfortunately far too slow, as I have to fetch each build to get the status.09:37
bigjoolswgrant: it's trivial for me to expose the ID, I'll probably do that09:52
bigjoolswgrant: a lot of the stuff we want to do involves making the API quicker, in the same way the UI improvements are going in, and this means adding more operations that take multiple IDs09:54
wgrantbigjools: Right, I just wasn't sure whether you were really meant to expose the IDs.10:06
bigjoolswgrant: it's not a big deal if they're already in the page source10:06
wgrantbigjools: True.10:06
wgrantAnd they're in the URLs too, of course.10:07
bigjoolsyep10:07
wgrantbigjools: Hmm, I see that it doesn't quite do as much as I'd hoped - it only gives me builds for the current distroseries, which I suppose makes sense given the data model. ISSPH.getBuilds does the same.10:22
wgrantI'd really like to get all builds relevant to the DSPR, but I suppose that's very difficult given that they could have come from various different archives.10:22
wgrants/current distroseries/distroseries of the publishing/10:23
bigjoolswgrant: right, publications are always in the context of a distroseries10:24
wgrantbigjools: Do you not have some internal method which works out all of the relevant builds (probably by walking up the SPPH ancestry chain collecting missing builds)?10:26
bigjoolswgrant: you mean all of the builds for a source package?10:27
wgrantbigjools: Basically, I want to know the status of all of the builds relevant to some SPPH. That means one for each non-P-a-s'd arch in that series.10:29
wgrantThe problem with inherited packages is this: Currently I can only see which builds have failed in some way, not which succeeded in the parent distroseries. this makes the FTBFS summary less useful, as I can't tell if the build failed everywhere or was P-a-s'd out on the archs where it didn't fail.10:30
wgrantIt's also even more confusing now, because queue-builder doesn't seem to be creating new builds for Karmic.10:32
bigjoolsthere's probably no chroots for the builders yet10:32
wgrantThere are.10:33
wgrantLots of builds are running.10:33
wgrantPPAs are active.10:33
bigjoolsoh ok10:33
wgrantBut only those builds that are created by the upload processor.10:33
cjwatsongmb: do you know why the Debian watch in bug 175220 failed to update?10:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 175220 in bash-completion "Gutsy] bash completion does not include cbr/cbz files for evince" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/17522010:34
gmbcjwatson: We're having problems with updating debbugs watches at the moment: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36445010:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 364450 in malone "Spurious TooMuchTimeSkew error when updating DebBugs watches" [High,Incomplete]10:35
gmbcjwatson: If necessary we can just do a single run of checkwatches that updates *all* debbugs watches, though that takes ages. I'm in the process of investigating the problem10:36
cjwatsonok, wasn't sure if it was a systemic problem or just this bug10:39
cjwatsongmb: if it turns out to be something wrong on the debbugs side, then I'm an administrator there10:39
cjwatson(though it doesn't really look like it in this case)10:39
gmbcjwatson: Nah, it looks like some weirdness on our server. Might be getting stuck in a long-running loop or something.11:14
gmbThanks anyway11:14
DemophobieHi together!11:24
DemophobieI have a problem with changing a status in Translations - Import queue in my project.11:25
Demophobiesomeone here who can give me support with my project-languages? i dont get how this works :D11:32
intellectronicadanilos, henninge, jtv: ^^^^^11:34
jtvDemophobie: hi11:34
Demophobiejtv: hello :)11:34
jtvWhat is it you're trying to do?11:34
Demophobiei want my import the po-files of my project and make it public, so everyone can review and correct it11:35
jtvDemophobie: what's the URL of the project on LP?11:35
Demophobiejtv: its http://launchpad.net/s25rttr11:36
DemophobieThe .pot file seems to be imported and a german po too11:37
jtvDemophobie: yup, looking at the queue now11:37
Demophobiethere was a guy who added a englisch translation - i dont know why - the pot is englisch, we dont need this11:37
jtvDemophobie: ah, I see.  It's the names: the system can't process those automatically.11:37
jtvRight, I'll delete the English one.11:38
Demophobieah what do i have to change?11:38
jtvDemophobie: you're working with just the one template, right?11:38
Demophobieyeah the rttr.pot --> its english and we translate from this one11:38
jtv(Oh, don't see the English translation any more)11:38
jtvDemophobie: then simply name each PO file after its language code: de.po, fi.po, hu.po, and so on, without the "rttr-" prefix.11:39
Demophobieah okay.11:40
Demophobieso i set alle the other files to "deleted"?11:40
jtvDemophobie: I can manually approve these for you now11:40
Demophobiewould be great11:40
jtvDemophobie: ok hang on11:40
Demophobieif u have time too11:40
Demophobieto*11:40
jtvDemophobie: the system will remember the names of the ones I approve now, but that way an upload for a new language would still be slow.  Just the language code is easier.11:42
jtvDemophobie: another trick is to use the upload option from a specific translation page.  That will attach the upload to one specific translation.11:42
Demophobiejtv: ah okay. good. u uploaded with de.po etc right?11:43
jtvDemophobie: no, but it doesn't matter: if you use just the language code as the base name, the system will figure it out anyway.11:44
jtvDemophobie: they're all approved now, and you should be getting confirmation emails over the coming minutes.11:45
Demophobiejtv: ah ok - u did not delete the english one right? its still tehre11:45
jtvDemophobie: Where is it?  I don't see any rttr-en.po.11:46
Demophobiejtv: i meant on the "Translation status" site11:46
Demophobiea guy named Spike added an Englisch (UK) translation - i dont understand why11:47
jtvDemophobie: oh, the UK English one.  That's different.11:47
jtvBy default, "English" basically means en_US.  So it is valid to have a UK-English translation.11:47
Demophobiehe's of our project - he did not know what he was doing - can u delete it? ;)11:47
DemophobieAh the system needs some time to check how much is untranslated - right?11:48
jtvDemophobie: yes, but it's perfectly okay to have an en_GB translation.  For instance, they write "disc" where US English writes "disk."11:49
Demophobieah okay - u are right11:49
jtvDemophobie: deleting stuff involves some red tape, so I'd rather keep it unless it contains something really inappropriate.11:49
Demophobiejtv: ok great - thank u. Why do i only get "German" in the Template Overview?11:50
jtvDemophobie: probably because that's your only configured "preferred language."11:51
Demophobieah ic11:51
Demophobieok rttr.pot is on "deleted" now (in import queue) - thats ok ?11:52
jtvDemophobie: depends on whether you want it deleted.  :-)  Didn't you put it in that state?11:53
jtvDemophobie: if it stays in that state for a few days, it will be cleaned up.  Which should be okay since the other copy of the template did get imported.11:53
Demophobiejtv: er yes - but i did this because it was double for some reason. i was very very confused lol11:53
jtvDemophobie: the system works on the principle that you do what you want, and it will try to figure out what you mean.  So you upload two similar files but with different paths, it sees that they may be the same or they may be different, and holds them for one of us to figure out.11:55
jtvDemophobie: it's all done by the files' names and paths.11:55
Demophobieah okay11:55
Demophobieso i update my files with de.po for example and thats enough11:56
jtvDemophobie: yes, you just rename them to names like that and they'll be imported much more quickly.11:56
jtvDemophobie: if you keep your code in Launchpad, the latest and greatest is that you can also have the files imported straight from bzr.11:57
jtvDemophobie: (should also work if you have your repository somewhere else but let LP mirror it)11:57
Demophobiejtv: ok great - i will do this. Why is the Russian Languages "by Patrick Haak" <-- which is my real name and not my nickname? :D11:57
jtvDemophobie: my guess is that you are registered as two persons in Launchpad: the account you created for yourself, and a person record that was created with a different email address based on mentions inside the translation files.11:58
Demophobiea hehe11:58
Demophobieok ;)11:58
jtvDemophobie: if so, you can request that the two accounts be merged.11:58
jtvDemophobie: or maybe you did it yourself, because the Patrick Haak account is called bugs-siedler25.11:59
Demophobiejtv: i think someone of the team did it - ok thank you :)12:00
Demophobiei think i understand how it works now :D12:00
jtvDemophobie: nope, looks like the page actually explains it now: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bugs-siedler2512:00
DemophobieI click Are you Patrick Haak?12:01
Demophobie;)12:01
jtvYup12:01
mwhudsonwow, i'm downloading from launchpad at a rockin' 20 k/s12:05
mthaddonsteady on, mwhudson12:08
Demophobiejtv: ok works now - thank you very much. i think i will wait update our rep every month with the newest translations.but perhaps i will try to import the template files via branch - they are called de_DE etc there.12:08
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jtvDemophobie: oh, that's not the best naming either.  Add the country code only where necessary: pt_BR, zh_CN/zh_TW, and specific "country dialects"12:10
Demophobieah ok - thats the reason why they were not imported automatically12:10
wgrantal-maisan: Why would you want to rebuild the RELEASE pocket of a released series?12:42
al-maisanwgrant: this app12:42
al-maisanarghh12:42
al-maisanwgrant: this may come in handy when someone wants to rebuild packages in the RELEASE pocket with a new tool chain or similar12:43
wgrantal-maisan: Ah, true.12:44
al-maisanwgrant: bear in mind that this applies to rebuild archives only12:44
wgrantal-maisan: Of course.12:44
al-maisanand people may just want to try something quickly12:44
wgrantbarry: You are actually going to rename product/project internally? I didn't imagine that would happen in my lifetime.12:54
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thervehi!13:07
thervewhat's the expected way to create a release on a project nowadays?13:08
thervethe "Create new release" is not present anymore, and the "+addrelease" URL oopses13:08
thervehum I guess #340944 is the culprit13:11
mnemoi recently started to triage bugs for ubuntu... one thing that scares me is when I realized how many bugs gets stuck in launchpad and never make it upstream... granted some of them are low quality and not actionable by upstream anyway but i13:12
mnemoi've seen several examples of me upstreaming a bug and then it gets fixed immediately13:13
james_wso we need more of it! thanks for helping :-)13:13
mnemoso im thinking there is great progress to me made if more upstream devs could be cajoled into looking at the bug reports13:13
mnemoand how to do that?13:13
mnemowell lets make it easy for them13:13
mnemolets make RSS feeds with all bug activity on a per package basis13:13
wgrantIdeally we just get everybody to use Launchpad. But that's not likely.13:14
mnemoexactly, _not_ likely13:14
wgrantI think there are already such feeds.13:14
wgrantYes, there are.13:14
mnemowhere? i'd love to promote their usage13:14
wgrantLinked on the sourcepackage bug page.13:14
wgrantIn the usual way.13:15
wgrantYou can also subscribe to just one package's bugs by email.13:15
mnemoyeah im on the xorg swat team so I get all that bugmail... but some people with xorg skills dont want to be in that group because there is too much bugmail and also they dont have to hear about fglrx and nvidia only open source stuff13:16
wgrantmnemo: That's subscribed to a *lot* of packages. Upstream maintainers need only subscribe to their own packages.13:17
james_we.g. http://feeds.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/latest-bugs.atom13:17
mnemojames_w: that awesome where did you find the link to that? im looking at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel but I dont see atom or rss links?13:18
james_wit's a rel link13:18
james_wif you use firefox you get the RSS icon in the address bar13:18
james_wclick on it to subscribe to the feed13:18
wgrantRight, Atom and RSS <a>s are bad ideas.13:18
james_wI just dug it out of the page source to link here13:18
mnemowhen I open https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel in FF3 I dont see a normal RSS icon in the addressbar?13:19
james_wclick on the bugs tab13:19
mnemoaah right13:19
mnemonow I see it13:19
wgrantYou can generally just give most feed readers the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/somepackage13:19
mnemowas a bit hard to find13:19
mnemogreat so you basically already has this feature, now I just need to convince more upstreams to subscribe to it :)13:20
mnemothanks a lot guys13:20
mnemowgrant, james_w: unfortunately, that feed is not at all what I was looking for13:26
mnemobasically it just sends out status changes and the title?13:27
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joejoehi, is there any ppa server with armel architecture?14:25
bigjoolsjoejoe: no, but there will be at some point14:25
koolkartikhttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_904_intel&num=1   m also having same problems....14:29
joejoebigjools: well, i hope it will be soon14:29
koolkartikneed help !14:29
bigjoolsjoejoe: you're not the first to ask!14:29
koolkartikwhat shall i do now to solve this problem   :(   need help guys....14:32
koolkartikdriver doenot support direct rendering14:32
koolkartik:(14:32
koolkartikhttp://pastie.org/462343    this is my Xorg.0.log file14:33
koolkartik(**) intel(0): DRI is disabled because it fails to run without freezing on i810 and i865G chips. (See LP 304871)"14:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 304871 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i845G] Fatal server error: Couldn't bind memory for BO front buffer (Jaunty)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30487114:33
beunokoolkartik, this is not a channel for Ubuntu support14:34
koolkartikbeuno: yeah ok just want to know anout this bug14:35
beunokoolkartik, sure. Still not a channel for Ubuntu support14:35
koolkartikbeuno: exactly but i didn't find this bug on launchpad so.....14:37
barrywgrant: i really really really hope so!14:56
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* ddaa complains about excessive launchpad flakiness in the bug tracker15:26
ddaaI'm having real trouble marking as duplicate a bug that I double posted because the first time I got a 500 error page.15:27
ddaaHaving funning messages in the "mark bug as duplicate" widget such as "The following errors were encountered: " followed by a red dot and no error message.15:28
intellectronicaddaa!15:29
ddaahey intellectronica15:29
intellectronicaddaa: url?15:29
ddaahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/gtg/+bug/36928615:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 369286 in gtg "No action accelerators in task window (dup-of: 369285)" [Undecided,New]15:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 369285 in gtg "No action accelerators in task window" [Undecided,New]15:29
ddaawell, apparently the error message was spurious15:29
ddaalike the error message that I got when I submitted bug 36928515:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 369285 in gtg "No action accelerators in task window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36928515:30
ddaaYou must have some fresh oopses around that stuff.15:30
ddaaThat or there's some serious undetectable problem with the JS fluff.15:31
ddaaintellectronica: otherwise, how's life?15:32
intellectronicaddaa: hectic! we've got a very exciting 3.0 release in the not so distant future :)15:33
ddaacool15:34
intellectronicaddaa: so what bug is a duplicate? just so i can test15:35
ddaaThe one I linked before.15:35
ddaaApparently, it was successfully marked as a duplicate.15:35
intellectronicabut you still got an error? beh15:36
ddaayup15:36
ddaaIIRC it went something like15:36
ddaaclick -> error with a clear invitation to try again -> click -> another error state, with a red dot and no error description.15:37
intellectronicahmmm ... i can't reproduce it now. i'll try to dig the oops and see what happened. in particular, i'm concerned about the error not displaying nicely. errors are going to happen from time to time, we just need to handle them gracefully15:37
intellectronicaddaa: was this on edge?15:37
ddaaSo maybe the first was a real oops, and the second error was a misreport caused by internal state in my browser.15:38
ddaaintellectronica: nope, on vanilla production, I'm a pedestrian now.15:38
intellectronicaddaa: ah, ok, so maybe that's why i can't reproduce it (but maybe it's also something that got fixed)15:39
eagles0513875hey guys is launchpad down15:39
ddaaBut I am not sure about how it occured. It was something like the 3rd or 4th error I got in the process of submitting two bugs, so I was already quite angry and impatient.15:39
intellectronicaddaa: there's nothing stopping from you beta testing LP :)15:39
mthaddoneagles0513875: not for me - what are you seeing?15:40
eagles0513875strange i cannot connect to the server mtaylor15:40
ddaaintellectronica: lack of interaction with launchpad is stopping me.15:40
eagles0513875mthaddon: take that back its loaded now i refreshed twice and it wasnt able to connect but now i have15:40
mthaddoneagles0513875: where you getting OOPSes or timeouts?15:40
mthaddons/where/were/15:40
ddaaapparently, I'm not the only one getting 500's15:41
mtayloraroo?15:41
eagles0513875it was the page where it says cannot connect to the server at this time and displays the irc info mthaddon15:41
mtaylorah... you meant mthaddon...15:41
mthaddonok, thx15:41
* mtaylor goes back away15:41
eagles0513875mtaylor: ya sry bout that15:41
ddaamh.. right I got that one when I submitted my bug.15:41
eagles0513875mthaddon: is there some maintenence goign on or something15:42
mthaddoneagles0513875: not til later today15:42
mthaddoneagles0513875: are you on edge or the regular site?15:42
ddaaI remember now. "Submit bug" -> "could not contact launchpad" -> "submit again" -> duplicate15:42
eagles0513875mthaddon: both15:43
ddaaThat might be what caused my ajax errors too.15:43
mthaddoneagles0513875: you were getting that error page on both?15:43
eagles0513875mthaddon: on the regular site but im working on both the regular and edge15:43
mthaddonok, just trying to narrow down where the problem is15:43
eagles0513875gotcha my apologies seems like my multitasking sometimes doesnt yield the required results lol15:44
mthaddonwe have seen an increase in the number of 5XXs in the last few hours, but it's still below the threshold we've set to get alerts for15:44
eagles0513875gotcha15:45
eagles0513875what is that error outa curiosity15:45
mthaddonI think it's 50 within the last 5 minutes15:45
eagles0513875wow15:45
eagles0513875what are the errors that are cropping up15:45
rowinggolferdo you know what annoys me about launchpad15:49
rowinggolferI OWN a project15:49
rowinggolferI write the code (massive undertaking)15:49
rowinggolferI am the bug supervisor15:49
rowinggolferand yet....15:49
rowinggolfersome dude files one bug15:49
rowinggolferand he has more "points" than me :(15:50
beunorowinggolfer, do you use bzr branches?15:50
rowinggolferyes15:51
rowinggolferI've made 32 commits15:51
rowinggolfermy project is http://launchpad.net/openmolar15:51
* beuno looks15:51
beunorowinggolfer, you have more karma than the other user though15:52
beunoah!15:52
beunoI know15:52
beunoyou're not getting karma for commits15:52
beuno 34. By  Neil Wallace <neil@neil-12inch>   3 hours ago15:52
beunoyou need to set your email address in bzr15:52
bigjoolsnice hostname15:53
intellectronicabeuno, rowinggolfer: maybe you need to sign your commits too? i don't remember but it might be the case15:53
beunorowinggolfer, bzr whoami 'Your Name <email@address>'15:54
beunointellectronica, no, just email matching15:54
beunothat said, the previous commits won't get assigned to you15:54
beunorowinggolfer, and you need dto have that email address claimed in LP15:54
rowinggolferoh bum.15:57
ddaahttps://launchpad.net/openmolar -> "Please try again"15:57
ddaaworks second time15:57
rowinggolferBTW - neil-12 is simply a way of referring to the size of my...15:58
rowinggolferlaptop screen15:58
rowinggolferie differentiate between my 9-inch and my 15-inch ;)15:58
DemophobieHello together!15:58
rowinggolferbeuno: thanks BTW. Glad to have cleared that up.15:58
* intellectronica is relieved15:59
Marvin_lol15:59
rowinggolferbueno so I have done bzr whoami 'Neil Wallace <rowinggolferATgooglemail.com>' (with an ')16:00
rowinggolfer@16:00
rowinggolferso my future commits will score points now?16:00
beunorowinggolfer, yeap16:01
beunotry16:02
beunobzr whoami16:02
beunoand see what bzr thinks16:02
rowinggolferok... that's working.16:02
rowinggolferI really should RTFM16:02
rowinggolferI need to go trough the PGP dance again now?16:02
rowinggolferor GPG..16:03
beunorowinggolfer, no16:03
beunodon't need to sign your commits16:03
ddaalaunchpad assign karma on committer16:03
rowinggolferok.. test comit coming up.16:03
ddaaso you just won't get karma for old commits16:03
DemophobieAnyone here who can help me with my project? i want to delete a series at my projekt16:15
salgadoDemophobie, sure, I can help16:16
Demophobiesalgado: ah great - we finally went opensource and now i try to make launchpad work for us. Can u delete two series for us?16:17
Demophobiecant find the delete button16:17
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Demophobiesalgado: i think there is no? ;)16:18
salgadoDemophobie, it may be available only to admins16:19
salgadolet me check16:19
Demophobiesalgado: http://launchpad.net/s25rttr16:19
Demophobiei think its more comfortable for us to use milestones16:19
salgadoDemophobie, what are the series you want deleted?16:20
Demophobiesalgado: All exept s25client16:21
salgadoDemophobie, that'd be 0.7-pre and 0.6-stable?16:22
Demophobiesladen: yes16:22
Demophobieoh16:22
Demophobiesalgado: yes :D16:22
Demophobiesalgado: we thought we have to make a serie for every release we made...16:23
Demophobiesalgado: the bugs wont be deleted right? still can link them to a milestone of the s25client serie?16:24
salgadoDemophobie, right, nothing else will be removed16:25
Demophobiesalgado: great.. only having one serie makes things easier :D16:26
NfNitLoopHrmm, launchpad.net seems to be having some technical issues?16:43
salgadoNfNitLoop, we are indeed16:43
eagles0513875hey mthaddon got another error when trying to view bug connection refused then it loaded the page after a refresh16:45
eagles0513875mthaddon: didnt load the bug just a white page16:45
mthaddoneagles0513875: we think we may have identified the cause - are working on it at the moment16:45
eagles0513875alright thansk mthaddon16:45
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Demophobiesalgado: oh i cant add milestone 0.1 if it has been deleted before?:-O16:48
LarstiQDemophobie: is the milestone deleted or the series?16:48
progfouhi everybody!16:50
progfouI have a lock problem with Bazaar access at launchpad16:50
progfouhere is what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/160763/16:50
DemophobieLarstiQ: "The name 0.1 is already used by a milestone in Siedler II.5 RTTR." --> i deleted it a couple of minutes before, cause i wanted to edit the Summary16:51
progfouany hint about what to do in this case (breaking the lock didn't work) ?16:51
LarstiQprogfou: make that bzr break-lock lp-140461539558736:///~progfou/ovniconv/trunk/.bzr/branch/lock16:52
ddaaprogfou: try "bzr break-lock lp-140461539558736:///~progfou/ovniconv/trunk"16:52
LarstiQargh16:52
* LarstiQ corrects16:52
LarstiQprogfou: `bzr break-lock lp:~progfou/ovniconv/trunk`16:52
progfoucheck the end of my pastebin => I did it and get and "Unsupported protocol" error too...16:52
DemophobieLarstiQ: ah seems to be fixed now :)16:52
progfoutrying the last one from LarstiQ...16:52
ddaawell: bzr break-lock bzr+ssh://progfou@bazaar.launchpad.net/~progfou/ovniconv/trunk/16:53
ddaathis error message from bzr is bong16:53
LarstiQddaa: iirc afaik the issue here (apart from suggesting the wrong thing) is the '-####' between lp and :16:54
LarstiQand bong it is16:54
ddaamultiple wrong things16:54
ddaawrong path16:54
progfouthe one from LarstiQ worked fine! thanks!16:54
ddaawrong branch name16:54
ddaaand mysterious protocol error16:54
ddaahence "bong"16:55
LarstiQddaa: I believe the spurious path elements don't prevent it from working, although they should indeed not be presented16:55
progfouthanks people for your help, this channel rocks, as usual! :-)16:57
LarstiQbug #250451 fwiw16:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250451 in bzr "bzr suggests wrong URL for break-lock with a LP hosted branch" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25045116:58
LarstiQprogfou: np, now we just need to fix the bug ;)16:58
progfou;-)16:58
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DemophobieLarstiQ: can u delete a serie for me. dalgado deleted two for me. there still seems to be one over :(17:15
LarstiQDemophobie: I wish I had that kind of power ;)17:15
LarstiQDemophobie: (I'm just a user)17:15
Demophobieah ;)17:16
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DemophobieLarstiQ: still have bugs who are linkes to junk series :(17:19
LarstiQDemophobie: I don't know when salgado comes back from lunch, but he might be in the best position to continue?17:20
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Demophobieokay :)17:21
Demophobieour bugs say "obselete junk" now in the main bugs.launchpad.net site lol17:25
Demophobie*waiting for someone who helps me tidy up my project site* lol17:31
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Demophobiesalgado: how was lunch? :)17:40
salgadoDemophobie, delicious! :)17:40
Demophobiesalgado: some minutes for me again? ;-) while having digestion? ;)17:41
salgadoDemophobie, sure. what's up?17:41
Demophobiesalgado: In "Series history" there is still a serie called "0.6-pre" we dont need - and there is a branch we accidently added on the first day called "lp:~vcs-imports/s25rttr/trunk". Can u delete that?17:42
salgadoDemophobie, if you go to https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/s25rttr/trunk you don't see a trash-can icon right beside the branch name, do you?17:46
Demophobiesalgado: that is reight. why is that so? :(17:46
Demophobieright*17:46
Demophobiewe dont see the trash icon17:46
salgadoDemophobie, just wanted to confirm.  that's because the branch is owned by the vcs-imports team.  for your (and your team) branches, you have the permission to delete them17:47
salgadoDemophobie, I've deleted it for you, though17:48
Demophobiesalgado: thank you. looks nicer now ;-) Did u delete the series 0.6-pre too?17:48
salgadoDemophobie, we can't actually delete them -- all we do is mark them as obsolete17:50
salgadoDemophobie, in this case, I think it's showing up there because it still has bugs linked to it17:50
salgadoI'd expect it to vanish from there once you change the bugs to link to other series17:50
salgadoDemophobie, can you try doing that?17:50
Demophobiesalgado: ah and thats the last thing i wanted to ask you: is there a way to remove the links to the old series?17:50
Demophobieyeah - there seem to be 5 bugs in that obsolete serie, let me look17:51
salgadooh, that's a good point -- it doesn't seem to be possible to unlink them17:52
Demophobiesalgado: ah okay. looks funny now https://bugs.launchpad.net/s25rttr shows "Obsolete Junk" now everywhere17:53
salgadoDemophobie, that's for the ones that are linked to the 0.7-pre series17:54
salgadothe 0.7-pre was moved to the 'obsolete-junk' project, but the 0.6-pre wasn't17:55
Demophobiesalgado: ah yeah - i c - and there is now way to fix this, right? i wish we never added this 0.7 and 0.6 series :D17:56
salgadoDemophobie, that's right, but you won't notice them once more bugs are filed and the existing ones get fixed17:57
Demophobiesalgado: ah okay. thank you very much. now i understand17:57
salgadoDemophobie, you're welcome17:58
Demophobie:-)17:58
Demophobiesalgado: i really like launchpad - but why can we not remove a series? why does the system only allow admins to?17:59
Demophobieis there a reason?17:59
salgadoDemophobie, it's because of all the things that may be linked to it18:00
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Demophobiesalgado: closed bugs will be removed after a while, right? i set "fix released" for the 5 bugs that were still in the serie, but serie still exists18:22
Demophobiesalgado: i still dont understand why u were able to delete the 0.7-pre series - cause bugs are still linked to that18:23
salgadoDemophobie, it exists in history, but it won't show up anywhere and nor can it be used18:24
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salgadoDemophobie, in fact, we moved the 0.7-pre and 0.6-release series out to 'obsolete-junk'18:24
salgadoor 0.6-stable18:25
Demophobiesalgado: ah ;) i still can use the 0.6-pre serien, when i want to target a bug to a release18:25
salgadoDemophobie, really?18:25
Demophobiesalgado: yep18:25
Demophobiesalgado: let me rechekc18:25
Demophobierecheck*18:26
Demophobiesalgado: yes i can choose 0.6-pre or s25client when i click "target to release"18:27
salgadoDemophobie, I'll get that one moved too.  I can't do it myself, but I know some people who can ;)18:31
Demophobiesalgado: ah - life is all about knowing ppl who can :D18:31
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salgadoDemophobie, should be done now18:47
salgadoDemophobie, btw, you shouldn't be able to target a bug to an obsolete series.  it'd be great if you filed that as a bug on LP itself18:47
Demophobiesalgado: yeah saw it - thank you very much18:47
Demophobiesalgado: ah okay. i will keep that in mind, yes :)18:48
Demophobiesalgado: i report in the "Launchpad Bugs" project, right?18:50
salgadoDemophobie, right18:51
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jmehdiI don't have access to my team mailing list archive, is it related to the current issues?19:55
beunobarry, ^19:56
barryjmehdi: what team?19:56
jmehdihttp://lists.launchpad.net/sabily.team19:57
jmehdisabily team19:57
barrybeuno, jmehdi looks like lists.launchpad.net is down.  will investigate20:02
ddaagmb: intellectronica: Re twitter: I'm going to be the chief engineer for some new webapp venture, so I'm going to define the testing practice20:08
ddaagmb: intellectronica: so, unittest, doctest + wsgi-intercept for pagetest, that much is clear20:08
ddaabut I'll need to decide about selenium/windmill/something else/manual tests for the ajaxy bits.20:09
ddaasince I lack experience in this area, I'm really interested in what launchpad folks learned in the past year.20:09
intellectronicaddaa: there are some rumours on something called testswarm that will be nice. vapourware for now, though20:10
intellectronicaddaa: windmill is not actually that bad, but it doesn't work in the kind of setup we have and it's also a bit new20:10
intellectronicaddaa: selenium is mature, but not fun to work with, especially if you mostly work in python20:10
ddaatoday's new is next year's old20:10
rockstarddaa, windmill is head and shoulders above Selenium.20:10
intellectronicaddaa: so basically, there's no good answer20:11
ddaaso windmill20:11
rockstarddaa, I measure "better" by the reduced amount of cursing.20:11
intellectronicaddaa: i'd say windmill, but don't expect much in the way of automated testing and such. it's quite brittle20:11
LarstiQddaa: no clue if it's relevant, but http://hypertest.johnnydebris.net/ ?20:12
intellectronicaddaa: also a lesson i've learnt in the process is that in browser ui testing, very thorough manul testing beats automated integration testing20:12
ddaaso, how do you folk go about it: do you primarily do record-replay, or do you primarily write stuff by hand (in the testbrowser style) and run it as a unttest?20:12
ddaaintellectronica: I'm ready to believe that, but automated testing is good to detect inadvertent breakage.20:13
ddaaso I want to have at least SOME level of automated browser ui testing. Even if it's just for basic "nice case" tests.20:13
intellectronicaddaa: indeed20:13
mirakhi20:13
mirakI have an application I try to package20:13
mirakthe make is strange20:13
intellectronicaddaa: we write tests in python20:14
mirakand procude a strange binary name oscam-0.99.2-x86_64-pc-linux   and I would like it to be just oscam  . how can I do that with cdbs ?20:14
ddaaLarstiQ: that might be relevant, I'll look at it later.20:14
BasicOSXnice! /topic is why I came here, good job setting a very informative /topic! :-)20:15
ddaaintellectronica: so you write windmill tests by hand primarily (I guess that recorded test lack in semantics)20:16
LarstiQmirak: #ubuntu-motu has more experienced people for packaging20:18
ddaaoh, btw if you happen to know a guy who could invest a couple million dollars in the next big thing on the interweb, send him to me ;)20:18
jmehdibarry: I can access my archive now, thanks20:18
barryjmehdi: np20:19
mirakLarstiQ: they don't answer20:23
mirakLarstiQ: anyway I asked upstream to fix the make20:23
LarstiQmirak: well, I don't know the answer :)20:23
LarstiQmirak: with plain debhelper, I'd either try .install or just mving in your build target20:24
LarstiQmirak: unless the upstream build system has a way to specify the executable name20:24
mirakLarstiQ: I have also a problem with the gcc options, I am forced to add -c otherwise it's lost20:28
dexhuhello from Floridsa21:02
dexhuI've tried upgrading to 9.04..but got a lot of bugs and only a partial upgrade21:02
dexhuhow can I reinstall the upgrade while keeping settings and applications for the past21:03
beunodexhu, this isn't a channel for Ubuntu support21:03
beunopelase go to #ubuntu21:03
beunoplease even21:03
dexhuOK..sorry21:04
ryanakcaI just got an email from a Cuban health worker who wanted to install Ubuntu on their work stations, but a) couldn't download because of crappy cuban connections, and b) couldn't order through shipit because it was blocked or something of the sort. Who should I forward him to?21:10
ryanakcahealtch care worker*21:10
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paolettopnVado via alle Wed Apr 29 22:19:40... ci si rivede alle prossime!21:19
Demophobiehey ho!21:19
Demophobiesomeone here who can create a translation group? :)21:20
beunodanilos, ^21:20
matsubararyanakca: info@shipit.ubuntu.com21:22
ryanakcamatsubara: Is there an hespanophone at the other end of that address?21:22
matsubararyanakca: if you mean someone who speaks Spanish, I don't think so.21:24
ryanakcamatsubara: The email was in Spanish :/21:24
beunoryanakca, shipit will be fixed in the following days21:25
beunomaybe just wait?21:25
matsubaraoh, I misread, i thought Cuba ISPs was blocking shipit for some reason21:26
mirakhow do I gpg sign pbuilder packages ?21:26
ryanakcabeuno: Hmmm? I've had emails before from Cubans who couldn't access shipit. Usually I forward them to the email matsubara gave me, but they were all in English... this one is in Spanish,  I don't really want to send him to a dead end...21:26
beunoryanakca, I think shipit is back up21:26
james_wmirak: debsign from the devscripts package21:27
LarstiQbeuno: Cuba being excluded wouldn't surprise me, depending on where shipit operates from.21:27
LarstiQbeuno: the US has funny export laws.21:28
DemophobieLarstiQ: any idea who to ask if i need a translation group?21:28
matsubaraDemophobie: https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+addquestion21:28
Demophobiematsubara: thank you :)21:29
ryanakcaLarstiQ: I got my CDs from someheres in the EU, but that was a few releases ago, they might have moved to the states...21:29
LarstiQDemophobie: no, but what matsubara said makes sense :)21:29
Demophobiegreat :D21:29
Demophobiematsubara: oh launchpad says so - i saw it :D sry .D21:29
Demophobie;)21:29
matsubararyanakca: try the info@ address, you could probably liaison for the cuban person in the first interactions.21:30
mirakjames_w: if I debsign the same package twice, does it change anything ?21:30
james_wit will replace the first signature with the second21:30
james_wor rather prompt whether it should21:30
mirakjames_w: but the signature will change ?21:31
james_wyeah21:31
mirakeven if my key is the same ?21:31
james_wI think so21:31
mirakjames_w: lauchpad reject reupload of packages with the same signature, or just the same version ?21:32
james_wsame version21:32
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mirakjames_w: however what I wanted to do is useless because I can't upload a package dsc that have a .deb and sources21:37
james_wyou can't upload .deb, correct21:37
mirakand anyway pbuilder doesn't create source packages21:38
mirakit seems james_w21:38
james_wyou don't need anything as complex as pbuilder to create a source package21:39
james_wtry "debuild -S"21:39
mirakjames_w: yes, I wanted to have something that do everything21:39
mirakhowever I can't upload if I do that21:39
james_wwhy can't you upload?21:40
LarstiQyou can change the .changes file to exclude the deb and resign21:40
LarstiQor a similar approach if that fails on technicalities like checksums21:40
mirakjames_w: because you can't upload binaries21:41
mirakLarstiQ: yes but that's not more convenient21:41
LarstiQmirak: it beats not uploading21:42
mirakLarstiQ: what ???21:43
james_wmirak: if you run "debuild -S" then it will create a _source.changes in the parent dir that doesn't mention .debs. If you upload that then it will be accepted21:44
mirakyep21:45
mirakbut if I want binaries of this I need to run pbuilder. that's acceptable of course21:45
james_wsure21:45
james_wbut why build binaries if you are uploading to a PPA as well?21:46
james_wand once you have built the source package it's dead easy to make pbuilder produce binaries from it anyway21:46
mirakjames_w: because I don't want to wait 6 hours to have binaries lol21:46
james_wpbuilder ../whatever...dsc21:46
mirakyes sure21:46
james_wpbuilder build ../whatever, sorry21:46
mirakI just wanted to have local binaries and sources to upload in one shot21:47
james_wwell write a quick shell script that does "debuild -S && dput && pbuilder" with the correct arguments21:49
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mirakis it possible to upload directly to ppa team ?21:51
mirakjames_w: ?21:53
james_weh?21:53
mirakis it possible to upload directly to ppa team ?21:53
beunomirak, yes, if you're part of the team21:53
mirakok the url syntax seemed different21:53
mirakI fail to upload to my team22:05
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Chr|sHello22:39
Chr|sis it possible to change my username?22:39
mwhudsonChr|s: yes22:40
Chr|smwhudson: Alright, thats good news, is it possible to change it to "Chr|s"22:41
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mwhudsonChr|s: i doubt that22:42
Chr|smwhudson: yeah thats what I was thinking, I just want to find out for sure22:43
mwhudsonChr|s:22:44
mwhudsonvalid_name_pattern = re.compile(r"^[a-z0-9][a-z0-9\+\.\-]+$")22:44
Chr|smwhudson: ahh ok :) thanks22:45
Chr|smwhudson: How would I go abouts changing or requesting a user name change?22:45
mwhudsonChr|s: i think it's somewhere on https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit22:46
wgrantPeople are always surprised when I tell them they can change it themselves.22:46
Chr|syeah me too22:47
Chr|smwhudson: thanks22:47
mwhudsonChr|s: np22:48
mwhudsonheh, the builders are a little bit busy right now :)23:35
* mdke nods23:37
jkakarLaunchpad appears to be completely offline at the moment, not in read-only mode.  Maybe that's expected and the topic is incorrect...?  Or maybe I'm too eager and it'll be back in read-only mode in a moment...?23:43
mwhudsonjkakar: the latter23:44
jkakarmwhudson: Cool, thanks.23:44
mwhudsonat least, that's the plan :)23:44
jkakarHehehe. :)23:44
zirodayHi am I meant to get this http://imagebin.org/47306 ?23:47
zirodayI get it when trying to search for bugs in notify-osd23:47
beunoziroday, Launchpad is down23:48
beunosee topic23:48
zirodaybeuno: ah23:48
zirodaybeuno: apologies :)23:48
beunono worries23:48
beunowill be back read-only soon we hope23:48
zirodaybeuno: great :)23:49

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