[12:48] <thorwil> kwwii, looks like we have another candidate for Incoming/Concepts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Grub_UI
[12:56] <kwwii> thorwil: coooooool!
[12:57] <thorwil> what!?
[12:57] <kwwii> ;)
[12:58] <thorwil> shall i ask jackwhite when he will start coding and if he thinks he can have a first release for a karmic alpha? ;)
[13:05] <thorwil> phew, my junk folder is once again all about britney's huge banana pill millions
[13:14] <thorwil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Backgrounds seems to indicate that people don't like the concept of thumbnails (240 px high)
[13:29] <kwwii> yeah, for wallpapers it makes it kinda hard to juedge at such a small size
[13:29] <kwwii> judge
[13:29] <kwwii> those seem kinda big to me though
[13:30] <thorwil> my jaunty images are 240 px: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=laola_tn.jpg
[13:43] <kwwii> yeah, and when I went through all of these with mark and co, I had to find larger versions to show them
[13:43] <SiDi> hi people
[13:44] <kwwii> btw, http://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/wireframes/ might be good for people working on themeing to look into
[13:49] <thorwil> kwwii, must have been hard with the links to full sizr version right below. anyway, what size do you suggest for background previews? the Backgrounds page might become long ...
[13:51] <kwwii> thorwil: well, it was annoying to have to do it again and again :)
[13:51] <kwwii> we can keep them at 240 unless people complain
[13:57] <kwwii> and nobody has complained yet :)
[13:57] <thorwil> nobody followed the rule, yet ;)
[13:58] <kwwii> oh, and ivanka's job has changed a bit but I am not sure if I am allowed to discuss things at canonical
[13:58] <thorwil> maybe i will experiment with sizes between 300 and 400 a bit and then enforce a size
[13:59] <kwwii> I agree that if it is too big the page gets hard to scroll through
[13:59] <thorwil> kwwii, i took it from linkedin
[14:00] <thorwil> kwwii, or right, Mr. Baer. do you have anything to say regarding his Artwork wiki page draft 2?
[14:01] <kwwii> yeah, I was going to reply to that today...all in all the structure seems sound but I am not a fan of the pics
[14:02] <thorwil> kwwii, not a fan either. huge improvement over the pictures taken from the online shop, though :)
[14:03] <kwwii> so maybe we should have a call for pics for that page :)
[14:03] <thorwil> kwwii, if you insist on plain == headlines ==, shooting down his graphics-work, i can agree, but you will be the bad guy ;)
[14:03] <kwwii> at least we would be allowed to make the decision on that :p
[14:04] <kwwii> oh, I think the pics do make it easier to read and find things, I just don't like those specific pics
[14:05] <thorwil> they speak of the everyone-is-welcome-to-fool-around-with-pretty-pictures-here stance
[14:06] <thorwil> in this sense, they are well done. right on intention
[14:07] <thorwil> so if you do make a call, say something about the message. but arg, who am i telling that? :)
[14:09]  * thorwil -> coffee
[14:10] <kwwii> ;)
[14:10] <kwwii> that is true
[14:11] <kwwii> and it *is* time for coffee ;)
[14:23] <kwwii> http://sinecera.de/bubble.png ideas?
[15:47] <robsta> hey thorwil, nice work on the notebooks
[16:43] <robsta> thorwil: unfortunately you are really challenging librsvg
[16:43] <robsta> the latest revision produces yet another crasher
[17:40] <thorwil> robsta, hi. was busy, digging out ivy roots
[17:41] <thorwil> robsta, i'm not even using blur, masking or clipping. how dare librsvg crash on kinderkram?
[17:42]  * thorwil notes after hard manual work, the mouse feels like a brick
[17:43] <thorwil> kwwii, for ideas on that one would need a little context
[17:44] <thorwil> generally it's always the same problem with reflective surfaces. you need to have an idea of the environment. or use comic-like simplification
[17:46]  * thorwil -> shower, dinner
[17:53] <kwwii> thorwil: the idea was to create a sphere out of colored glass which we could use for the ayatana project and other things spawning from that
[17:53] <kwwii> so different projects could have different colored glass balls
[17:54] <SiDi> dragon balls ?
[17:55] <kwwii> ;)
[17:58] <SiDi> in fact that bubble pic i saw from irclogs looks like a dragon ball :D
[17:58] <SiDi> (and it looks really sweet too :p)
[18:11] <savvas> balls?
[18:11] <savvas> :p
[18:14] <savvas> wait is that ball going to be as a background or become a useful multi-purpose button of some sort?
[18:14] <SiDi> if you get seven of them, you can ask something to the sabdfl savvas !
[18:15] <savvas> more balls!
[18:15] <savvas> haha
[18:20] <thorwil> kwwii, reminds me of http://www.csh.rit.edu/~garrett/voicenotes/images/caf-logo.png and http://blog.tice.de/a_icons/icons/Extra Core Video.png
[18:20] <thorwil> anyway, dinner time for real now
[18:20] <thorwil> (away
[18:20] <thorwil> arhg
[18:26] <kwwii> hehe, that in turn looks like the akonadi oxygen icon
[19:09] <SiDi> Tnats
[19:09] <SiDi> Thats * a shame the computer icon was moved from the Breathe set
[19:09] <SiDi> i liked it a lot.