[01:32] <[reed]> armin76: ping
[03:38] <yoasif> hey quick question -- have you guys packaged seamonkey 2.0a3
[09:49] <armin76> [reed]: pong, i know, the superh bug
[10:01] <armin76> [reed]: answered
[10:02] <asac> superh?
[10:02] <armin76> yup
[10:04] <armin76> asac: don't like? :D
[10:05] <asac> armin76: what is superh?
[10:06] <asac> i see its a microcontroller ... what arch is that on linux?
[10:06] <armin76> asac: sh
[10:07] <armin76> Linux superh 2.6.30-rc2-00079-gb8c193f #1 Thu Apr 16 13:35:14 GMT 2009 sh4a SH7785 SH7785LCR GNU/Linux
[10:07] <armin76> :D
[10:23] <asac> hmm
[10:40] <armin76> asac: you guys don't do pgo?
[10:41] <asac> armin76: in karmic we will
[10:42] <armin76> asac: it isn't out already?
[10:42] <asac> armin76: karmic? i think archive is now open yes.
[10:42] <asac> didnt do any upload yet thouzgh
[10:42] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/
[10:43] <asac> all auto importing is running
[11:14] <gnomefreak> i guess im making a chroot :)
[11:17] <asac> gnomefreak: hi
[11:17] <asac> gnomefreak: so whats up with sm2
[11:17] <asac> you said it still fails?
[11:17] <asac> do you have the branch somewhere?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> anyone else having problems with shut down? my box wont shut down it stays at halt
[11:17] <gnomefreak> hi asac
[11:17] <asac> gnomefreak: no shutdown works for me ;)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> asac: its failing on same error as the nss error
[11:18] <asac> yes. have branch somewhere?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> than it has to be a local issue :(
[11:18] <gnomefreak> asac: not with the latest nss fix
[11:18] <asac> gnomefreak: show diff you made then
[11:21] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/645100 ill be back in a few minutes
[11:35] <gnomefreak> ok badck
[11:38]  * gnomefreak has to build jaunty chroot before i try to build it again
[11:41] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. so this change looks quite ok in general
[11:42] <gnomefreak> well than it shouldnt have failed :(
[11:42] <asac> i need the complete build log i guess
[11:42] <gnomefreak> im building chroot now i might have time to run it before i leave
[11:42] <asac> remember to capture that when building next time
[11:43] <asac> gnomefreak: how about just uploading it to ppa ... you probably have the same tarball already in your ppa? so it would just be diff.gz et al
[11:43] <gnomefreak> asac: i have not found a working way to pipe the builds yeet
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ah good point. if the build failed doesnt that mean tarball is gone?
[11:43] <asac> gnomefreak: no if you dont delete the package from ppa the tarball will stay
[11:44] <asac> gnomefreak: just be sure that you build with -S -sd
[11:44] <gnomefreak> ok
[11:44] <asac> and that you use the same upstream tarball version already uploaded in ppa
[11:44] <asac> and bump version by appending .1 or .2 or something
[11:44] <asac> gnomefreak: commit the change you pasted in any case
[11:45] <gnomefreak> asac: i did
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ok its started
[11:46] <gnomefreak> now smoke while i wait
[11:51] <gnomefreak> asac: ok a bit longer, i forgot to get build deps for it :(
[11:52] <asac> heh
[12:11] <asac> dtchen: so when i can start pulseaudio at some point during a desktop session, does that mean that pulseaudio crashed?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> this diff is taking forever
[12:14] <gnomefreak> to build
[12:15] <asac> hmm. isnt seamonkey a tarball in tarball orig?
[12:15] <asac> thats usually quite fast
[12:15] <asac> gnomefreak: ?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> no if you mean tarball folder isin top level
[12:16] <gnomefreak> like tb2 used to be
[12:16] <asac> really
[12:16] <asac> we should change that then
[12:16] <gnomefreak> we got out of that practice
[12:16] <asac> we now have the sources in the orig as a tar.bz2
[12:17] <asac> is that or is that not the case for sm?
[12:17] <asac> 2
[12:17] <gnomefreak> tarball is separate
[12:17] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[12:19] <gnomefreak> yeah it has to be separate othere wise i would see the tarball in toplevel and all i see is debian but i dont remember SM2 ever having it embedded
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ok pushing
[12:21] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to look in the tarball
[12:21] <asac> in the orig
[12:21] <asac> there should be _no_ debian at all
[12:21] <asac> you probably look at the branch ... but thats without orig sources
[12:22] <gnomefreak> asac: there is a debian after build
[12:23] <gnomefreak> debian and mozilla dir
[12:23] <gnomefreak> thats in seamonkey-2.0
[12:23] <gnomefreak> -2.0~b1~hg20090423r2462+nobinonly/mozilla
[12:23] <gnomefreak> but i still dont see a tarball or dir named tarball (i dont remember what the dir was called maybe source
[12:25] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah. ok
[12:25] <asac> gnomefreak: then its not tarball-in-tarball
[12:26] <gnomefreak> is there a reason why there is a security announcement after we finish the next point release
[12:26] <gnomefreak> asac: assuming you built 3.0.10
[12:27] <asac> gnomefreak: not sure i understand that question
[12:27] <gnomefreak> or you havent
[12:27] <asac> .10 is a security update
[12:27] <gnomefreak> asac: 3.0.10 was released its not in repos but even when they are i still get security announcements from jamie
[12:28] <asac> gnomefreak: should be in archive
[12:28] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ah it hasnt landed in Karmic from what that link says
[12:31] <gnomefreak> ah thats my fault i think
[12:34] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/645103 asac something is wrong here
[12:35] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/645104 is my list
[12:37] <asac> gnomefreak: you dont have jaunty-security and jaunty-updates in your sources.list
[12:37] <asac> gnomefreak: to to Software Sources dialog and enable security and updates
[12:37] <gnomefreak> did you look at bottom?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> #
[12:38] <gnomefreak> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates restricted main multiverse universe
[12:38] <gnomefreak> #
[12:38] <gnomefreak> #
[12:38] <gnomefreak> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-security restricted main multiverse universe
[12:38] <gnomefreak> i have a better list le tme see if that helps
[12:38] <asac> gnomefreak: no clue then ;)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> asac: still should have landed for karmic anyway
[12:44] <gnomefreak> ah new list for jaunty now has it
[12:44] <asac> gnomefreak: xulrunner copied to karmic. firefox uploaded to karmic
[12:45] <asac> so with some luck those builds will arrive in a day or so
[12:45] <asac> (builders are swamped with imports)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> yep
[12:51] <gnomefreak> asac: you never released 3.0.9?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> seems 386 in PPA is busy as well
[12:55] <asac> yeah
[12:56] <asac> gnomefreak: i didnt release to karmic because i cut a release branch for jaunty one week ago
[12:56] <asac> or two
[12:56] <asac> and since karmic wasnt open the build never got ther
[12:56] <asac> well. karmic automatically has 3.0.9 from jaunty
[12:56] <asac> but new upload overrides it
[12:56] <asac> e.g. we added changes to 3.0.9
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: it has 0.8
[12:59] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/645109
[13:12] <asac> gnomefreak:
[13:12] <asac> RELEASE 1.9.1~b4+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/karmic
[13:12] <asac> asac@hector:~/ubuntu_bzr/xulrunner-1.9.1.jaunty$ 1.9.1~b4+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
[13:13] <asac> oops
[13:13] <asac> gnomefreak:
[13:13] <asac> +	--with-system-nss \
[13:13] <asac> +	--with-system-nspr \
[13:13] <asac> you have to remove those lines
[13:13] <asac> otherwise the generic check we do below doesnt work
[13:13] <gnomefreak> asac: from SM2?
[13:13] <asac> gnomefreak: yes from the DEB_CONFIGURE_USER_FLAGS=  in rules
[13:13] <gnomefreak> i thought we wanted to build with nss nspr
[13:14] <asac> gnomefreak: we do that if possible ... thats what the other change was about
[13:14] <asac> but you force it, which is wrong
[13:14] <asac> just drop those two lines and show me diff
[13:14] <gnomefreak> ok doing
[13:18] <gnomefreak> asac: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/645111
[13:19] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. that works. reupload with that change
[13:20] <gnomefreak> ok trying
[13:22] <gnomefreak> ok i have to get ready to go to eye appointment. I will push this before i leave than when i can i will build latest hg
[13:24] <c0p3rn1c> why do you have the package flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree?
[13:34] <gnomefreak> asac: answer that please :)
[13:36] <gnomefreak> ok now im going to go get ready will push when its done
[13:52] <asac> c0p3rn1c: new name = -installer
[13:54] <gnomefreak> asac: remove -nonfree than since it doessnt install flash
[13:54] <gnomefreak> please even
[13:55] <gnomefreak> SM2 is puhedf
[13:56] <gnomefreak> since we cant remove from <= jaunty than make it install -installer too
[13:56] <asac> gnomefreak: we have to keep nonfree transitional package until next LTS so that LTS-LTS upgrade is done properly
[13:57] <gnomefreak> well than what do we do about bugs on -nonfree failing to install flash
[13:57] <gnomefreak> transitional package should install -installer and flash but doesnt
[14:00] <c0p3rn1c> asac: could you make sure that
[14:00] <asac> gnomefreak: do you have a bug id?
[14:00] <gnomefreak> at least that is why intrepid>ja8unty is broken
[14:00] <gnomefreak> asac: shit load of them bu6t not on hand
[14:00] <c0p3rn1c> when you upgade from intrepid flash is also installed, I made a bug report for this
[14:00] <gnomefreak> c0p3rn1c: yuours is a dupe orf a master but i dont have it handy
[14:00] <c0p3rn1c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144042
[14:01]  * gnomefreak looked at his bug and told him to join us (if its him) ;)
[14:01] <gnomefreak> c0p3rn1c: it is installed just -insstaller needs to be and isnt
[14:02] <c0p3rn1c> I know, it's not for me but for the other n ubuntu users who are upgrading from intrepid to jaunty
[14:03] <asac> c0p3rn1c: the bug number is really low. doesnt look like its an intrepid-jaunty upgrade bug
[14:03] <c0p3rn1c> asac: should I post a new bug for it, because it has the same result as this bug?
[14:04] <gnomefreak> i might have the master im looking now
[14:04] <asac> c0p3rn1c: yes. that bug is a different one for sure
[14:05] <c0p3rn1c> asac: ah ok sorry for the confusion then
[14:05] <asac> c0p3rn1c: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/144042/comments/30
[14:05] <gnomefreak> asac: as for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/351355 maybe get ubufox to pop up the license dialog
[14:06] <gnomefreak> asac: c0p3rn1c IIRC this is the master of your bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/326609
[14:07] <gnomefreak> ok i have to go, maybe when installing or upgrading ubufox should install -installer with -nonfree
[14:07] <gnomefreak> ok im gone
[14:07] <c0p3rn1c> asac: ok will do
[14:08] <c0p3rn1c> asac: what logs exactly?
[14:10] <asac> /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[14:10] <asac> i think thats the dir where it is
[14:10] <asac> term.log
[14:10] <asac> i think
[14:10] <asac> c0p3rn1c: ^
[14:10] <c0p3rn1c> ok :)
[14:11] <c0p3rn1c> asac: that dir is empty
[14:11] <c0p3rn1c> oh wait
[14:11] <c0p3rn1c> other pc
[14:11] <c0p3rn1c> sorry lol
[14:22] <asac> (reconnect)
[14:22] <asac> 15:21 < asac> c0p3rn1c: so in that term.log you can search for flashplugin-installer ... there should be a wget call that most  likely failed for you
[14:22] <asac> 15:21 < asac> c0p3rn1c: so in that term.log you can search for flashplugin-installer ... there should be a wget call that most  likely failed for you
[14:22] <c0p3rn1c> asac: yes I'm posting it right now at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/326609
[14:26] <c0p3rn1c> asac: ok done, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/326609/comments/26
[14:26] <asac> c0p3rn1c: ok i posted something there too now
[14:26] <asac> Jamie alread spotted the output that i suspect to be responsible
[14:26] <asac> if so its fixed in latest update-manager as i wrote here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/326609/comments/27
[14:28] <c0p3rn1c> ok great, then it's fixed!
[14:28] <c0p3rn1c> I try to upgrade my laptop lateron, so I will check if it's truly fixed.
[14:29] <c0p3rn1c> will try*
[14:31] <asac> c0p3rn1c: yes. ensure that you are up-to-date in intrepid before upgrading
[14:32] <asac> c0p3rn1c: oh wait a sec
[14:32]  * c0p3rn1c is waiting :)
[14:33] <asac> c0p3rn1c: ok. verified that the latest intrepid-updates update-manager has that fix
[14:33] <asac> err jaunty-updates i mean ... but that is considered when upgrading i was told
[14:33] <asac> c0p3rn1c: would be cool to get a verify from you that this works
[14:34] <c0p3rn1c> asac: I will try it tonight, it will take me some hours to back-up my stuff
[14:36] <c0p3rn1c> asac: yeah but the thing is I currently do have ubuntu intrepid, but some special version(ubuntu ultimate edition) I do use the official ubuntu repositories though
[14:36] <asac> c0p3rn1c: what is ultimate edition?
[14:36] <c0p3rn1c> some "distro" I decided to try out :)
[14:37] <asac> c0p3rn1c: anyway. so in jaunty you can just run apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[14:37] <asac> c0p3rn1c: i guessed that. what is their focus?
[14:37] <c0p3rn1c> asac: true
[14:37] <asac> (besides the nebulous name ;))
[14:37] <c0p3rn1c> asac: to me it seems to be nothing more than a ubuntu application pack
[14:38] <asac> c0p3rn1c: third party apps?
[14:38] <asac> or just a special set of default apps?
[14:38] <c0p3rn1c> yes and maybe some third party apps
[14:39] <asac> well. if they didnt repack flashplugin or update-manager this shouldnt matter i hope
[14:39] <asac> with some luck the upgrade will bring you back to mainline ;)
[14:39] <c0p3rn1c> not sure I only switched to using ubuntu a half year ago
[14:40] <c0p3rn1c> asac: yeah I think it won't be a problem too
[14:41] <c0p3rn1c> I know it's off-topic but there is one thing I hate about ubuntu ultimate edition, I don't have multiple consoles( CTRL-ALT-F[1-8] )
[14:43] <c0p3rn1c> oh wait I just found out I do , prbly because my keyboard settings where wrong
[14:43] <c0p3rn1c> n/m then lol
[14:46] <c0p3rn1c> brb
[15:17] <asac> cool. gnomefreaks seamonkey build worked ;) ... finally
[15:35] <asac> hjmf: btw, the release dust is settling ... so if you need something from me ... shoot.
[16:51]  * armin76 shoots asac 
[16:51]  * asac hugs armin76 :-P
 hjmf: btw, the release dust is settling ... so if you need something from me ... shoot.
[18:55] <hjmf> asac: OK, not at this moment but for sure I will do it :-)
[18:55] <asac> great
[19:20] <armin76> asac: you going to UDS?
[19:28] <asac> armin76: obviously ;)
[19:29] <asac> i think i cannot escape that :)
[19:30] <armin76> asac: its where i live, i may shoot you in person :D
[19:33] <asac> armin76: you live in barcelona?
[19:33] <asac> i think i envy you ;)
[19:33] <armin76> yup
[19:33] <asac> definitly drop by ... there is always much much fun
[19:34] <asac> and UDS is supposed to be in the city centre even
[19:35] <armin76> i'll go if canonical gives me an arm board :P
[19:37] <armin76> hrm, its pretty close where i work
[19:38] <asac> armin76: actually i think there might be potential ... not sure, but i heard that also community folks are supposed to get such devices if they are actively porting stuff :)
[19:45] <armin76> asac: so what do you there apart from saying all the time that ubuntu rocks? :P
[19:45] <asac> armin76: beer ;)
[19:45] <armin76> hrm...not interested
[19:46] <asac> just visit and see yourself
[19:46] <asac> hard to describe
[19:46] <asac> its basically a bunch of sessions where we discuss goals and details on what shoujld be done in karmic
[19:46] <armin76> which days are you going?
[19:46] <asac> all 5
[19:47] <asac> i will keep you posted on schedule so you can pick a day where there are interesting sessions
[19:47] <armin76> okay :)
[19:49] <armin76> asac: also if you need any help wrt city, just poke me
[19:50] <asac> armin76: above, you already denied to help me with going out for beer et al :(
[19:50] <asac> j.k.
[19:50] <armin76> haha
[19:50] <asac> i think i will arrive on sat ... monday UDS starts
[19:51] <asac> armin76: fta will be ther too
[20:05] <asac> ok enough for today. cu later or tomorrow
[20:13] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks it built :) i still cant really see so i have the size of page is huge
[20:32] <gnomefreak> since i cant see today is perfect to grab latest build and build it. if it fails i dont need to read it today :)
[21:24] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[21:24] <dtchen> asac: how are you gauging "start"? `pgrep pulseaudio'?
[21:25] <BUGabundo> how is fta doing? haven't seen him in a while
[21:25] <BUGabundo> hi dtchen
[21:25] <dtchen> asac: start-pulseaudio-x11 returns 0 even if pulseaudio is already running
[21:25] <dtchen> hi BUGabundo
[22:36] <yamo> Hi
[22:40] <BUGabundo> yamo: hi
[22:42] <yamo> I'm using the Seamonkey 2.0b1pre from gnomefreak it's working great just has some bugs
[23:28] <mbana> am i the only one who notices the speed difference between FF on linux and windows, the latter being faster