| Anon | anyone know a good program that i can use on Xubuntu to scan and fix viruses on a Windows PC? | 00:57 |
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| harmz | Anyone here? | 01:11 |
| Anon | yes and no | 01:12 |
| harmz | Considering using xubuntu, on an IBM Thinkpad, Pentium II 363 mHZ 352 RAM 8 gb HD, got a few questions. such as, is this a good idea? | 01:12 |
| Anon | im here, but odds are i cant help you | 01:12 |
| phaete | anyone friendly and think they can help resolve a problem for me? | 01:12 |
| phaete | i got a 42" lcd running through dvi-hdmi and when i view in 1080p its a little zoomed in | 01:13 |
| phaete | top/bottom/sides are in a fraction | 01:14 |
| phaete | this issue doesnt happen on windows. | 01:14 |
| phaete | something you guys know the solution too? | 01:14 |
| Anon | harmz, xubuntu would run on that computer, but there might be better options out there, i say if its an old computer try to install xubuntu and if that dosent work move on | 01:14 |
| harmz | what other options? | 01:15 |
| Anon | mabey another kernel | 01:15 |
| harmz | Running XP now. | 01:15 |
| Anon | xubunut would run i think, the processor is a bit slow but i think it would work | 01:15 |
| harmz | What about Netbook remix? | 01:16 |
| harmz | of Ubuntu | 01:16 |
| Anon | oh thats beyond my scope | 01:16 |
| Anon | sorry dude | 01:16 |
| Anon | phaete, have you toyed around with the setting on the LCD? | 01:17 |
| phaete | yeah a little | 01:17 |
| phaete | not much available there | 01:17 |
| phaete | i can zoom in | 01:18 |
| phaete | im max out in terms of zooming out | 01:18 |
| Anon | hummm. sounds like the aspect ratio is messed up | 01:18 |
| Anon | your outputing form a computer to the LCD? | 01:19 |
| phaete | yeah | 01:20 |
| phaete | at the moment im trying to install the ati binary | 01:20 |
| phaete | as i got ati card | 01:20 |
| phaete | might help i hope | 01:20 |
| Anon | yeah | 01:20 |
| Anon | so it take it the LCD is widescreen and there are black bars on either side, | 01:21 |
| Anon | is it cutting a bit off the top and the bottom as well? | 01:21 |
| Anon | any luck? | 01:22 |
| phaete | just rebooting now | 01:24 |
| phaete | ahh now its like zoomed in atm | 01:24 |
| phaete | i get full screen | 01:24 |
| phaete | in comes in on the side/top/bottom | 01:24 |
| phaete | so i cant see taskbars | 01:24 |
| phaete | ect | 01:24 |
| Anon | hummmm | 01:24 |
| meatcar | hi | 01:24 |
| phaete | hopefully this reboot works :D | 01:24 |
| Anon | hi | 01:24 |
| phaete | hi | 01:24 |
| phaete | mad, it worked | 01:25 |
| Anon | cool | 01:25 |
| phaete | im a noob btw | 01:25 |
| phaete | lol | 01:25 |
| meatcar | I just installed the xubuntu-desktop package, and am unable to make my dual screen setup work. | 01:25 |
| phaete | i only used ubuntu for 2weeks | 01:25 |
| phaete | have you install the driver support | 01:25 |
| meatcar | It works in ubuntu. In xfce , i just see one screen availble for editing. thats my laptop screen | 01:26 |
| Anon | hey either of you wouldn't happen to know a good anti-virus software for Xubunut that can scan and fix windows PC do you | 01:26 |
| Anon | meatcar, have you opend the display panel? | 01:26 |
| meatcar | Anon: such a thing exists? | 01:27 |
| Anon | i dont know, | 01:27 |
| meatcar | yes, i have. i see only one screen availble to be selected. | 01:27 |
| Anon | i want something like that thoe, it would be nice to fix viruses without the risk of this computer catching it | 01:27 |
| meatcar | google it. theres bound to be something. | 01:28 |
| Anon | ive been looking, i have this Avast stuff but im not really happy with it | 01:28 |
| meatcar | :S i cant help you there. | 01:29 |
| Anon | :/ oh well | 01:29 |
| meatcar | by the way, is it possible to add whole menu's as launchers? | 01:30 |
| Anon | i dont see why not but i have no idea how to, ive only been using linux for a week or so | 01:31 |
| meatcar | it used to be an active feature in earlier releases of XFCE... but it got taken out... :( http://njlinux.blogspot.com/2008/01/virus-scan-windows-using-linux-live-cd.html | 01:32 |
| Anon | damit | 01:32 |
| meatcar | ignore the knoppix part. seems like somethign you were looking for. | 01:33 |
| Anon | yeah | 01:33 |
| Anon | i have a ide/sata to usb converter, so i just wire up hard drives using that and scan them. | 01:34 |
| Anon | but that still might work | 01:34 |
| phaete | i odnt know about anti virus | 01:36 |
| Anon | eh oh well | 01:36 |
| phaete | put it in an external hdd | 01:36 |
| phaete | and scan | 01:36 |
| Anon | under the hardware drivers, is the second graphics card coming up? | 01:38 |
| Anon | eh dam i really have no idea | 01:39 |
| saiki | anyone know how to get nvidi ards workign right? | 02:10 |
| phaete | you install the drivers/ | 02:10 |
| phaete | have you? | 02:10 |
| saiki | yes | 02:11 |
| saiki | but the resolutions don't work | 02:11 |
| saiki | and now it won't even open the X display :@ | 02:11 |
| phaete | :o | 02:11 |
| phaete | im noob i wouldnt know sorry | 02:11 |
| saiki | no worries | 02:12 |
| rocko | how can I remove all png only files with rm command or is there any other command I can use to do this ? | 02:32 |
| rocko | I want to do it recursively | 02:32 |
| rocko | so all folders in this one directory | 02:32 |
| jakemonO | anyone having trouble w/xubuntu9.04 as a vbox client w/audio? | 02:39 |
| meatcar | i am trying to make my dual-screen work in xubuntu 9.04, and am having trouble with xrandr. http://paste.linuxassist.net/214634 can anyone help? | 02:48 |
| keb | rocko find . -name '*.doc' -print | xargs echo | 02:49 |
| keb | replace *.doc with *.png, and echo with rm (after you are sure you have the right files listed) | 02:50 |
| rocko | cool thanks keb you are the best | 02:50 |
| keb | cheers | 02:51 |
| Anon | keb, ever herd of an anti virus softwhere for linux that can scan a windows PC and fix it? | 02:51 |
| rocko | so what about if you wanted to do it to a certain directory ? keb | 02:51 |
| keb | rocko start in that directory. the "." is the starting folder for find | 02:51 |
| keb | Anon clamav does that i think | 02:52 |
| rocko | okay thanks keb | 02:52 |
| Anon | cool ty | 02:52 |
| keb | Anon but make sure you have ntfs-3g | 02:52 |
| rocko | Anon just boot into safe mode and fix your problems in there | 02:52 |
| rocko | there are some windows tools i can recommended to use if you are interested | 02:52 |
| Anon | ok | 02:53 |
| rocko | that get rid of some nasties that most anti virus software does not remove | 02:53 |
| keb | Anon offline scanning often can't fix registry issues, so yeah safe mode etc may be better | 02:53 |
| rocko | like vundo viruses | 02:53 |
| keb | hehe | 02:53 |
| Anon | im not worried about registry fixes | 02:53 |
| keb | i h8 them | 02:53 |
| Anon | i can do them | 02:53 |
| Anon | but identifying and deleating them would be nice | 02:54 |
| rocko | well you can use network stuff with safe mode you just have to select to use networking in safe mode | 02:54 |
| keb | assuming it is winxp or newer | 02:54 |
| keb | maybe win2000 | 02:54 |
| keb | anyway its offtopic | 02:54 |
| Anon | would i need this NTFS 3G if i can wire up the windows hard drive using a usb port? | 02:54 |
| rocko | Anon http://vundofix.atribune.org/ | 02:54 |
| Anon | ok | 02:55 |
| keb | Anon if you have a recent ubuntu it will probably mount the partition without extra effort | 02:55 |
| keb | even on usb | 02:55 |
| Anon | just got 9.4 last night | 02:55 |
| rocko | Anon http://www.atribune.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=25&Itemid=25 | 02:56 |
| keb | plug in the drive and type "mount" and see what it says | 02:56 |
| rocko | that has nothing to do with anti virus but it is a nice tool | 02:56 |
| rocko | all in one to get rid of junk files | 02:56 |
| Anon | ok | 02:56 |
| Anon | brb | 02:56 |
| MTec007_ | im having some strange problems with my wireless card, i am connected but only at 1mbps and im getting a lot of packet loss if i ping yahoo,com for example, %16 loss first time 36% second time with frequest wifi disconnects. | 02:57 |
| meatcar | MTec007, is this a sudden problem, or is it after you did some system changes(updates, etc.) | 02:59 |
| MTec007_ | i never used my card on linux before | 03:05 |
| MTec007_ | only windows | 03:05 |
| J_Litewski | MTec007_, what card is it? model, etc | 03:05 |
| MTec007_ | the wired works fine (even wired to router) | 03:05 |
| MTec007_ | its a dell dont know the model though i can check if i can figure out how to 'eject' it form linux | 03:07 |
| keb | lspci | 03:07 |
| J_Litewski | MTec007_, are you on a wired connection? | 03:08 |
| keb | to figure out what card it is | 03:08 |
| meatcar | MTec007_, I'm feeling its a driver error. find the windows driver for your card, and use ndiswrapper to set it up. | 03:08 |
| MTec007_ | i am right now, i cant use the internet on my wireless | 03:08 |
| meatcar | plenty of tuttorials around. | 03:09 |
| MTec007_ | 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) but thats not what it actually is i guess just what the OS thinks it is? | 03:10 |
| keb | thats what the card says it is | 03:10 |
| MTec007_ | ok | 03:10 |
| J_Litewski | MTec007_, are you using the b43legacy driver? | 03:11 |
| keb | dell might have linux support for it though, check their site | 03:11 |
| MTec007_ | doubtfully this card is from 2005ish | 03:11 |
| meatcar | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx | 03:11 |
| J_Litewski | I have a Dell TrueConnect using the b43legacy driver | 03:11 |
| MTec007_ | J_Litewski, NULL(info.linux.driver) is what connection information says | 03:12 |
| J_Litewski | I get that too | 03:12 |
| MTec007_ | see i have already been to that site before i upgraded to 9.04 (didnt get it working) | 03:13 |
| MTec007_ | i dont think i fully understand what the website is telling me to do or how to do it | 03:14 |
| MTec007_ | that took a long time, lol | 03:15 |
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| MTec007 | i dont think i got that b43-fwcutter to work that may be the problem i dont really know, i am new to linux and that just really isnt explained very well | 03:19 |
| J_Litewski | try it | 03:19 |
| J_Litewski | it is a 43xx card | 03:19 |
| MTec007 | like i said, i dont understand the instructions on the site, i couldnt get it to work | 03:20 |
| meatcar | have you tried ndiswrapper? | 03:21 |
| J_Litewski | just go into the Hardware Drivers in Applications/System and enable it from there | 03:21 |
| MTec007 | meatcar, no J_Litewski, broadcom b43 wireless driver is activated and in use | 03:23 |
| J_Litewski | ah | 03:23 |
| keb | MTec007 whats the first thing you didnt understand on the fwcutter site | 03:24 |
| MTec007 | i would have to find the site again i dont remember it | 03:24 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | if anyone's here, i'd like to know if i made a big mistake in upgrading to 9.04 | 03:25 |
| meatcar | [AfZ]TomServo1, to answer your question, we need to know your situation | 03:26 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | actually, it's working fine for the most part | 03:26 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | but i'm getting no sound whatsoever | 03:27 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | seems like a common issue | 03:27 |
| keb | are you using xubuntu or kubuntu or ubuntu | 03:27 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | xubuntu | 03:27 |
| meatcar | i hate setting up sound. its always a pain | 03:28 |
| meatcar | check all the possible sound options | 03:28 |
| meatcar | trial and error always works. | 03:28 |
| meatcar | :P | 03:28 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i'm using a usb headset, apparently known as "C-Media" something or other cause that's the driver that worked for me in 8.10 | 03:28 |
| meatcar | lspci? | 03:28 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | tried reloading alsa | 03:28 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | it's showing up in lsusb | 03:28 |
| keb | that would be lsusb | 03:28 |
| meatcar | whoops | 03:29 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | so the headset appears to be recognized and loaded in alsa | 03:30 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | just to make sure, can you tell me the proper cmd to list all sound devices in alsa? | 03:30 |
| meatcar | MTec007, ndiswrapper howtos: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/NdisWrapper_The_Ultimate_Guide/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper | 03:31 |
| keb | ooh yes if it is alsa, you might have to run alsamixer once and unmute stuff | 03:31 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i looked in alsamixer already, but i'll double check | 03:31 |
| keb | unmute the master and pcm bars, and set volume about 80% | 03:32 |
| meatcar | gtg yall, read a book for english for tomorrow. good luck. | 03:32 |
| keb | night | 03:32 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | there's an option in alsamixer called "pcm capt", do you know what it does | 03:34 |
| keb | capture sound i think | 03:34 |
| keb | from some other input | 03:34 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | where do i adjust the overall sound output? | 03:38 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | master sound, in other words | 03:38 |
| keb | should be the first bar on the left, called master | 03:39 |
| keb | or install the volume control on your taskbar | 03:39 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | well there's no master volume control option available for my headphones | 03:39 |
| keb | hmm | 03:40 |
| keb | do you have another sound card in the system? maybe that is confusing things | 03:40 |
| keb | in the sound settings things, there is sometimes a place to choose which device is default | 03:41 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | yeah i have an onboard intel sound device | 03:41 |
| dsmith_ | anyupdate yet? | 03:43 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | do you mean the "default sound card" thing | 03:43 |
| dsmith_ | er..anyone update from 8.10? | 03:43 |
| keb | sure | 03:43 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i did...and now my sound doesn't work | 03:44 |
| keb | dsmith_ i dist-upgraded from 8.10 | 03:44 |
| dsmith_ | run smooth | 03:44 |
| dsmith_ | ? | 03:44 |
| rocko | how do I get back files I accidently deleted with rm command ? | 03:44 |
| keb | yep | 03:44 |
| keb | uhoh | 03:44 |
| dsmith_ | rocko: reinstall from backup | 03:45 |
| rocko | um | 03:45 |
| dsmith_ | you ARE backing up aren't you>? | 03:45 |
| rocko | I don't have any backups | 03:45 |
| dsmith_ | what filkes? | 03:45 |
| keb | [AfZ]TomServo1 can you select one of the other devices in that list | 03:45 |
| keb | rocko thats why i said use echo first ;) | 03:45 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | yeah i can | 03:45 |
| rocko | um no that is not what happened keb | 03:46 |
| rocko | I used a different thing someone suggest in another channel | 03:46 |
| keb | :/ | 03:46 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | there's my intel onboard device, "Audio", and Pulseaudio | 03:46 |
| rocko | and it deleted my whole folder | 03:46 |
| keb | oic | 03:46 |
| keb | well pulsaudio isnt used by xubuntu | 03:46 |
| rocko | well the folder I was doing it on which was human | 03:46 |
| keb | rocko sometimes deletions are in the Trash folder | 03:46 |
| rocko | nothing is in the trash | 03:47 |
| keb | rocko if the files are really important, shutdown the computer asap and hook up the drive to another system and do data recover y stuff | 03:48 |
| dsmith_ | rocko: what folder | 03:48 |
| MTec007 | thanks all i guess i will work on it more tommorow. for now i am off to bed. | 03:48 |
| keb | night | 03:48 |
| * dsmith_ about to update 8.10 to 9.04 | 03:48 | |
| dsmith_ | hehe | 03:48 |
| keb | dsmith_ make sure to read the release notes first ;) | 03:49 |
| dsmith_ | anyone ever notice that you can shove a usb dongle into your ethernet port? | 03:49 |
| dsmith_ | lol | 03:49 |
| dsmith_ | keb, had issues? | 03:49 |
| keb | yep done that :/ | 03:49 |
| keb | not me, but i didnt have a intel chipset | 03:49 |
| keb | [AfZ]TomServo1 any luck with Audio driver | 03:50 |
| keb | *device | 03:50 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | no | 03:51 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | do you know how to disable hardware | 03:52 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i guess the intel sound could be conflicting(although i doubt it) | 03:52 |
| keb | onboard can be disabled from bios setup page | 03:52 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i would do that, but i'm dual booting with windows | 03:53 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | and it was never a problem with 8.10 | 03:54 |
| * dsmith_ installes his updates | 04:02 | |
| dsmith_ | making ready | 04:02 |
| keb | [AfZ]TomServo1 strangely the only sound control i could find on my system was in Services | 04:02 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | hmm alsa-utils is the only deactivated service in Services | 04:04 |
| keb | mine was activated | 04:04 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i'm gonna try reinstalling alsa | 04:08 |
| keb | good luck | 04:12 |
| dsmith_ | need to expand mr root partition | 04:15 |
| evilbug | how can i make a bootable xubuntu flash drive? | 04:37 |
| xarcade | hi, i followed this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb but i still cannot access shares, i get permission denied message. | 04:40 |
| xarcade_ | hi, i am having problems with fusesmb and xubuntu | 04:46 |
| xarcade_ | each time i try to access a folder i get permission denied | 04:46 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | evilbug: i don't know how to make a bootable flash xubuntu flash drive, but i'm certain i found an explanation of the process on the ubuntu forums | 04:50 |
| evilbug | i'm looking on google and i keep finding ways to do it on windows, i'm not in windows... | 04:51 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | and you don't have windows installed? | 04:53 |
| keb | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick | 04:53 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | that's the one, keb | 04:53 |
| evilbug | [AfZ]TomServo1- nope. | 04:54 |
| evilbug | can't i just mount the iso on my desktop and copy the content onto the flash drive? | 04:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | argh. | 04:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | finally made it here. | 04:54 |
| keb | welcome | 04:54 |
| xarcade_ | how to enable numpad at system stard ? | 04:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | I've been working all night on getting my resolution to work | 04:55 |
| xarcade_ | start | 04:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | And to be honest I'm stumped | 04:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | There are only two resolution options that even have a refresh rate. | 04:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | and even those don't work. | 04:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7173501 | 04:56 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | evilbug: the bootloader has to be in the logical front of the drive to load like that i believe | 04:56 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | but seriously, i'm a linux noob, that's just a grasp at a straw | 04:57 |
| ipressthebuttons | anyone have any helpful ideas? | 04:57 |
| ipressthebuttons | because I'd like to be able to change my internet connection without using guess and check to find it. | 04:58 |
| evilbug | [AfZ]TomServo1- :) | 04:59 |
| ipressthebuttons | nobody wants to help? ): | 04:59 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | keb, please save the day | 05:00 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | i'd love to help you :/ | 05:00 |
| ipressthebuttons | I'd love | 05:00 |
| ipressthebuttons | to see all of my screen | 05:00 |
| ipressthebuttons | http://i44.tinypic.com/2gvn0ba.jpg see the end of the firefox window? That's how far to the right my screen goes. Doing anything is a trial. | 05:00 |
| ticos | how do i find out what "system" i have? (i.e. linux-x86-64, alpha, etc..) | 05:01 |
| xarcade_ | uname -a i think | 05:02 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons have you looked thru your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for clues? | 05:02 |
| ipressthebuttons | I have no idea what I'm doing. I installed xubuntu on a friend's recommendation. | 05:02 |
| keb | xarcade_ did you try installing numlockx | 05:03 |
| ipressthebuttons | I opened that log file... any clues I should look for? :/ | 05:03 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | ipressthebuttons: click the down arrow on the right side of the firefox app | 05:04 |
| keb | it shouldnt be a very long file so have a look | 05:04 |
| ipressthebuttons | it's long enough to make me want to not scroll through it | 05:04 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | unless you did that purposely... | 05:05 |
| ipressthebuttons | I'm not worried about firefox | 05:05 |
| xarcade_ | keb, i am now | 05:05 |
| ipressthebuttons | I really don't know what I'm looking for here. | 05:06 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons about 4 pages into it, you will see what video card it detected and resolutions it supports, as well as what it thinks your monitor supports | 05:06 |
| [AfZ]TomServo1 | gotta go, thanks for the help keb...i'll have to post something to the forums later | 05:07 |
| keb | before 9.04 there used to be a way to override defaults by manually editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf . not sure if that still works | 05:07 |
| ipressthebuttons | I ytirf yo rfiy iy | 05:07 |
| ipressthebuttons | wow that was nasty | 05:07 |
| ipressthebuttons | I tried to edit it. | 05:07 |
| ipressthebuttons | but it didn't let me. | 05:07 |
| keb | lol | 05:07 |
| ipressthebuttons | sigh | 05:07 |
| keb | you have to use sudo to edit a file | 05:08 |
| keb | in /etc | 05:08 |
| ipressthebuttons | I did | 05:08 |
| ipressthebuttons | it didn't find the file. | 05:08 |
| ipressthebuttons | sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf | 05:08 |
| ipressthebuttons | sudo mousepad /etc/x11/xorg.conf | 05:09 |
| keb | capital X11 | 05:09 |
| ipressthebuttons | lame. | 05:09 |
| ipressthebuttons | any idea what I could do to fix it? | 05:09 |
| keb | only windows and vms are case insensitive | 05:09 |
| ipressthebuttons | I can edit it... but what can I put? | 05:10 |
| keb | good question | 05:10 |
| ipressthebuttons | it is | 05:10 |
| ipressthebuttons | I've been looking for an answer all night | 05:10 |
| keb | are you able to get to the System -> Hardware app? | 05:11 |
| keb | maybe there is a proprietary driver that will work better for you | 05:11 |
| ipressthebuttons | Hardware drivers? | 05:12 |
| keb | yes | 05:12 |
| ipressthebuttons | There are no drivers found | 05:12 |
| keb | ok | 05:12 |
| ipressthebuttons | just my wireless internet driver, that's the only thing. | 05:12 |
| ipressthebuttons | http://www.theatons.com/how-to-setup-dell-e228wfp-on-ubuntu-704 I found this, but I don't know if this will help at all | 05:12 |
| xarcade_ | keb, can you help me setting up fusesmb properly ? | 05:14 |
| keb | xarcade_ sorry i dont use that so i dunno | 05:14 |
| ipressthebuttons | should I give that site a try? | 05:15 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons did you get the same list of useless refresh rates in Settings --> Xfce settings manager --> Display ? | 05:15 |
| xarcade_ | keb, how can you access samba server from another pc running linux without using fusesmb ? | 05:15 |
| ipressthebuttons | yes | 05:17 |
| ipressthebuttons | yes I did. | 05:17 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons yes that website looks good, but only change the stuff in xorg.conf related to Monitor, Modes and Screen | 05:19 |
| keb | and keep backups | 05:20 |
| ipressthebuttons | I backed up the original config... | 05:22 |
| keb | do you ahve the exact same monitor as that fellow | 05:23 |
| ipressthebuttons | I do not believe I do. | 05:24 |
| keb | hmm then the modeline will not work, and could blow up your hardware | 05:25 |
| ipressthebuttons | blow UP? | 05:25 |
| keb | well it might overload something | 05:25 |
| ipressthebuttons | >_> | 05:25 |
| ipressthebuttons | I 'll just shut the computer off and keep it that way then | 05:25 |
| keb | best to have a look at that log file, see what modes are supported | 05:26 |
| keb | when you arent tired and stuff | 05:26 |
| ipressthebuttons | xorg.0.log you mean? | 05:26 |
| keb | /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 05:26 |
| ipressthebuttons | http://h1.ripway.com/ipressthebuttons/Xorg.0.log | 05:27 |
| ipressthebuttons | that's the file D: | 05:28 |
| keb | did the monitor come with a manual | 05:33 |
| ipressthebuttons | it's a laptop. | 05:33 |
| ipressthebuttons | lol. | 05:33 |
| ipressthebuttons | I don't know where the manual is. | 05:33 |
| xarcade_ | how to install a public key in the system to install a software ?? | 05:35 |
| xarcade_ | trying to install webmin | 05:36 |
| xarcade_ | http://www.webmin.com/jcameron-key.asc | 05:37 |
| ipressthebuttons | argh | 05:41 |
| ipressthebuttons | I'm going to try it... | 05:41 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons did you try all this stuff https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenChrome | 05:41 |
| ipressthebuttons | openchrome? | 05:41 |
| keb | yes thats what you have | 05:41 |
| ipressthebuttons | confusing | 05:42 |
| ipressthebuttons | what is this page telling me to do | 05:42 |
| keb | xarcade_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299708 | 05:42 |
| ipressthebuttons | how do you activate the universe and multiverse repositories again | 05:42 |
| xarcade_ | i found it solution here -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7141244 | 05:42 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons in System -> Software Sources | 05:43 |
| xarcade_ | keb: thanks | 05:43 |
| ipressthebuttons | and then | 05:43 |
| ipressthebuttons | is there anything I should put in third-party software | 05:44 |
| keb | hmm. no perhaps better to try this first: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg | 05:44 |
| keb | and choose openchrome | 05:44 |
| ipressthebuttons | I don't know if I typed that right | 05:45 |
| ipressthebuttons | when I did that, it just made a copy of xorg.conf | 05:45 |
| keb | it didnt ask you about anything? | 05:46 |
| ipressthebuttons | nope. | 05:46 |
| ipressthebuttons | is that bad? | 05:46 |
| R1cochet | is there a program that will tell me what codec i need to play a video? | 05:46 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons maybe not | 05:46 |
| keb | R1cochet mplayer | 05:46 |
| ipressthebuttons | xubuntu is functioning, and I have internet... I just want to be able to see my entire screen :/ | 05:47 |
| ipressthebuttons | if I can't fix my resolution, is there maybe a way to scroll on the screen? | 05:47 |
| keb | oh so its just the virtual screen you want to change? | 05:47 |
| R1cochet | was using that to play a video and it says: could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound | 05:48 |
| ipressthebuttons | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=209474 should I try this? | 05:49 |
| keb | ipressthebuttons yeah try adding a Virtual section to your xorg.conf which has a resolution that matches the real one | 05:50 |
| keb | *Virtual line | 05:51 |
| ipressthebuttons | should I just copy paste what that guy posted except put my screen's resolution? | 05:51 |
| keb | not the whole thing, just add a Virtual line to your Subsection Display | 05:51 |
| ipressthebuttons | the entire config is empty | 05:52 |
| keb | oic | 05:52 |
| ipressthebuttons | not empty | 05:53 |
| ipressthebuttons | but | 05:53 |
| ipressthebuttons | Section "Monitor" | 05:53 |
| ipressthebuttons | Identifier"Configured Monitor" | 05:53 |
| ipressthebuttons | stuff like that... | 05:53 |
| keb | is there a Section Screen | 05:53 |
| ipressthebuttons | yes | 05:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | I put the subsection under that | 05:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | should I save and restart and see if my computer doesn't blow up? | 05:54 |
| keb | sure | 05:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | is that a yes? | 05:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | D: | 05:54 |
| keb | it wont blow up, but dont use the highest resolutions there | 05:54 |
| keb | unless you know your monitor can do that | 05:54 |
| ipressthebuttons | aight. | 05:54 |
| keb | well 1280x1024 is not unusual for a new laptop | 05:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | 1024 768 is mine apparently | 05:55 |
| keb | you could even leave out the modes line at first | 05:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | I'm going to take my chances. | 05:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | if I don't come back | 05:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | I gave up and went to sleep. | 05:55 |
| ipressthebuttons | >_> | 05:55 |
| keb | ok good luck, me too | 05:55 |
| keb | R1cochet thats not a codec issue, thats a driver issue | 05:56 |
| R1cochet | thank you | 05:58 |
| ipressthebuttons | woo. | 05:59 |
| ipressthebuttons | It worked | 05:59 |
| ipressthebuttons | I can see my entire screen | 05:59 |
| keb | yay | 05:59 |
| R1cochet | i have a problem with a video file | 06:01 |
| R1cochet | cant get it to play in totem at all | 06:01 |
| ipressthebuttons | alright | 06:01 |
| ipressthebuttons | thank you for the help. | 06:01 |
| ipressthebuttons | It took a lot of effort but it worked :] | 06:01 |
| R1cochet | i was able to get the audio to play in mplayer but the video wont play at all in totem | 06:09 |
| R1cochet | i would like to be able to play the video in totem over mplayer | 06:10 |
| J_Litewski | i'm trying to compile the notification-daemon-xfce, and i'm getting permission denied errors | 06:37 |
| xarcade_ | i have a problem with my ps/2 mouse, when i boot up ubuntu the mouse seems to be dead every time i have to disconnect and reconnect the mouse while the system is running and eventually the system detects the mouse and i can use it, can someone please help me fix this problem ? | 06:50 |
| _Pete_ | does someone here use conky? Just started to use it yesterday and would like to get some cool .conkyrc to test | 07:42 |
| _Pete_ | ideally one that mimics gkrellm :) | 07:42 |
| MarcPV1 | hi | 07:45 |
| MarcPV1 | i upgrade to 9.04 and i lost the volume control, anyone knows where it is? | 07:46 |
| artistxe | you may have to re add it to the panel | 07:47 |
| artistxe | right click on panel . add item | 07:47 |
| MarcPV1 | i added the "mixer" but its not the usual volume control | 07:48 |
| MarcPV1 | i cant get direct control to the usual fadder | 07:49 |
| R1cochet | how can i update intltool? i get error when trying to complile totem | 07:49 |
| R1cochet | Your intltool is too old. You need intltool 0.40.0 or later. | 07:49 |
| R1cochet | nevermind | 07:50 |
| R1cochet | configure: error: gnome-doc-utils >= 0.3.2 not found | 07:52 |
| R1cochet | synaptic says 0.13.1 | 07:52 |
| R1cochet | how can i update this? | 07:52 |
| neozen | salutations | 07:53 |
| neozen | need to re-enable old keyboard shortcuts for resizing/moving windows in xfwm4 | 07:53 |
| neozen | seem to have been removed in upgrade to jaunty | 07:54 |
| avuton | /usr/share/applications/evince.desktop is not showing in my menu. The file validates, is there any way I can track down why it's not showing? | 09:59 |
| SiDi | avuton: open it with a text editor | 10:00 |
| SiDi | NoDisplay=true | 10:00 |
| SiDi | there's this inside it | 10:00 |
| avuton | Yeah, it sure does. Wonder why that would be in it | 10:01 |
| SiDi | "cp /usr/share/applications/evince.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/ && mousepad ~/.local/share/applications/evince.desktop" avuton | 10:01 |
| avuton | Thanks :/ | 10:01 |
| SiDi | Its because by default its not meant to be shown in menus :) | 10:01 |
| SiDi | Copy the file to your home and put this line to false | 10:01 |
| SiDi | and it should be in the menu then | 10:01 |
| avuton | Thanks again | 10:01 |
| SiDi | You're welcome | 10:01 |
| Roylap | Does xubuntu 9.04 have support for the eee, acer aspire etc netbooks that ubuntu netbook remix has, i.e are drivers for wifi and camera included? | 10:42 |
| SiDi | It can run on netbooks for sure | 10:44 |
| SiDi | but we may not have as many drivers on the liveCD | 10:44 |
| SiDi | (at worse you can install UNR and then install xubuntu-desktop and remove ubuntu-desktop, but you'll have a lot of GNOME unneeded stuff) | 10:45 |
| Roylap | all right thanx, im pretty happy with gnome but the performance on a netbook isnt exactly great and thats why im looking into xubuntu. | 10:49 |
| murlidhar | !info xfce4-mcs-manager | 11:05 |
| ubottu | Package xfce4-mcs-manager does not exist in jaunty | 11:05 |
| murlidhar | any other name is it in ? | 11:05 |
| murlidhar | anyone ? | 11:06 |
| murlidhar | it's a replacement for gnome-settings-daemon .... right ? | 11:07 |
| ActionParsnip1 | yo yo yo | 11:09 |
| SiDi | i think its xfconf now | 11:10 |
| murlidhar | ah okies | 11:11 |
| murlidhar | bash: xfconf: command not found | 11:11 |
| SiDi | you're under intrepid ? | 11:12 |
| murlidhar | jaunty | 11:12 |
| murlidhar | mcs-manager was in intrepid | 11:12 |
| murlidhar | but not in jaunty anymore | 11:12 |
| SiDi | xfce4-settings-manager | 11:12 |
| murlidhar | :( | 11:12 |
| murlidhar | SiDi: i am talkin about the daemon file that we put in autostart.sh | 11:13 |
| SiDi | no idea :D | 11:14 |
| kora-chan | hi i'm using 9.04 right now and after he update from 8.10 something really strange happened. i now have 2 firefox installations if i start it with alt+f2 my old installation starts with all the addons and if i launch it with gnome-do a new clean installation starts,... is there any way to remove the second one? | 12:42 |
| kora-chan | apart from that, the xfce dekstop compositor worked well before the update and now i have to disable it because everything slows down when i enable it (intel gma 945) | 12:45 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: you could uninstall all firefoxes and then reinstall one, your profile is held in ~ so will be untouched | 12:48 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: i did already do a apt-get remove firefox, but i didnt change anything. both installations were still there, maybe i should manually remove all the packages in synaptic | 12:51 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: try this | 12:51 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get --purge remove firefox*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get installfirefox | 12:52 |
| ActionParsnip1 | oops | 12:52 |
| ActionParsnip1 | last command i missed a space | 12:52 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: k thanks a lot ill try it | 12:52 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: the --purge removes all residual configs that arent in your ~ dir | 12:53 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: that might be a good idea | 12:53 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: the purge line returned that there were noch matches for firefox* but i still can start the new, clean installation from the gnome do | 13:00 |
| kora-chan | i removed all the firefox packages i found with synaptic before | 13:01 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: ok then also make sure they are purged: | 13:01 |
| ActionParsnip1 | dpkg -l | grep firef | 13:01 |
| ActionParsnip1 | if yuo see package names that start with 'rc' then you will need to run: sudo dpkg -P <package name> | 13:01 |
| kora-chan | there was a rc firefox-3.0 | 13:02 |
| kora-chan | i ran the command on it | 13:02 |
| ActionParsnip1 | you still had config files (but not the install) of firefox | 13:03 |
| ActionParsnip1 | ok recheck its all gone then install firefox | 13:03 |
| kora-chan | well i still can start firefox via gnome do,..... | 13:03 |
| kora-chan | thats strange | 13:03 |
| ActionParsnip1 | sudo apt-get install firefox should be all it takes, maybe its a weirdness in gnome-do | 13:04 |
| kora-chan | root ~ # ls -l /usr/bin | grep firefox* | 13:05 |
| kora-chan | zsh: no matches found: firefox* | 13:05 |
| kora-chan | kk ill do the reinstall | 13:05 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: are you logged on as root? | 13:07 |
| kora-chan | no i only have a root shell open for the apt stuff | 13:07 |
| ActionParsnip1 | ok thats ok | 13:07 |
| kora-chan | i dont run the firefox as root, but on my normal user | 13:08 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: whats the output of which firefox | 13:08 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: i just reinstalled firefox and were back to where we began. gnome do opens a clean instance, while alt+f2 opens my configured ff | 13:09 |
| kora-chan | root ~ # which firefox | 13:09 |
| kora-chan | /usr/bin/firefox | 13:09 |
| kora-chan | could i t be that the jaunty update installed an extra instance of firefox since maybe the firefox package i had before was from a launchpad repo? | 13:10 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: gnome-do must be using something different | 13:10 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: i'm not conversant with the app as I lanch everything from tilda / yakuake | 13:10 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: log a bug | 13:11 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: k, maybe ill find out which bin gnome do executes, but thanks for all your help; btw is tilda / yakuake a fast launcher, since im not really bound to gnome-do? | 13:12 |
| ActionParsnip1 | its a quake style konsole / terminal that hides in the top of yur screen til you bring it down with a hotkey | 13:14 |
| ActionParsnip1 | so you can run all your file manipulation stuff and launch apps n the background all in the same box | 13:15 |
| ActionParsnip1 | kora-chan: its exactly like using terminal. i launch stuff from there, as well as performing my day to day stuff | 13:16 |
| kora-chan | ActionParsnip1: ah alright, maybe ill give it a shot; since i do most of my stuff in terminals too; thanks again for the infos | 13:18 |
| ActionParsnip1 | horses for courses | 13:18 |
| Dillizar | how can i change the color of the panels | 13:50 |
| Dillizar | ?? | 13:50 |
| Dillizar | fuck | 13:53 |
| Dillizar | sorry wrong window | 13:53 |
| Dillizar | :D | 13:53 |
| Dillizar | the f word wasnt for this window :) sowwy | 13:53 |
| Dillizar | ANY ONE HERE | 14:07 |
| TheSheep | Dillizar: yes | 14:07 |
| Dillizar | knome are ya here man | 14:07 |
| Dillizar | yeah | 14:08 |
| Dillizar | TheSheep how can i change the color ov the pannels | 14:08 |
| TheSheep | Dillizar: by editing your theme, or adding it to your .gtkrc-2.0 | 14:08 |
| Dillizar | damn | 14:08 |
| vidd | can someone point me to a good how-to for setting up dual monitors in xubuntu? | 14:08 |
| TheSheep | you sure have a foul mouth | 14:09 |
| Dillizar | :) | 14:09 |
| TheSheep | !xinerama | vidd | 14:09 |
| ubottu | vidd: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead | 14:09 |
| Dillizar | how can i edit my theme | 14:09 |
| TheSheep | Dillizar: try adding it to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/114952 | 14:10 |
| TheSheep | Dillizar: then switch your gtk theme and switch back | 14:10 |
| Dillizar | so i need to know the code of the color i want | 14:10 |
| Dillizar | ? | 14:10 |
| TheSheep | yes, you can get it with gimp | 14:11 |
| Dillizar | kewl :) | 14:11 |
| Dillizar | what is bg and what fg | 14:11 |
| vidd | bg =back ground | 14:11 |
| vidd | fg = fore ground | 14:11 |
| TheSheep | Dillizar: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials/GtkThemes | 14:12 |
| vidd | TheSheep, that info on xinerama seems dated....xorg doesnt use .conf anymore =\ | 14:12 |
| TheSheep | vidd: it does | 14:13 |
| TheSheep | vidd: it just doesn't require it | 14:13 |
| vidd | ic | 14:13 |
| vidd | TheSheep, according to Bug #353575 xubuntu 9.04 uses xrandr and not xinerama for dual monitors | 14:23 |
| vidd | and xrandr sees both my screens | 14:24 |
| cody-somerville | Xfce 4.6 does indeed use xrandr | 14:24 |
| TheSheep | doesn't work with my nvidia | 14:24 |
| vidd | doesnt the nvidia-provided drivers and software take care of that for you TheSheep ? | 14:25 |
| vidd | (but my issue is a different card set) | 14:25 |
| vidd | my issue is that both screens are up, but are clones | 14:26 |
| TheSheep | vidd: I settled for two X screens in the end | 14:26 |
| TheSheep | vidd: yeah, that's how xrandr works | 14:26 |
| cody-somerville | I'm pretty sure you can get an extended desktop | 14:27 |
| cody-somerville | I have in the past | 14:27 |
| TheSheep | but usually smaller than the two screens combined | 14:28 |
| TheSheep | because it uses card's internal memory only | 14:28 |
| TheSheep | and most crads don't have enough for 2 screens | 14:29 |
| Dillizar | can i put gnome apps on the panel?? | 14:33 |
| vidd | Dillizar, yes... | 14:34 |
| vidd | right click and add "launcher" | 14:34 |
| vidd | then configure the launcher for the desired app | 14:34 |
| Dillizar | vidd not like that | 14:35 |
| Dillizar | like weather panel app | 14:36 |
| vidd | you mean gnome panel apps? | 14:36 |
| Dillizar | yes | 14:36 |
| vidd | if the panel app is installed, then it should be selectable | 14:36 |
| Dillizar | damn i must change the theme on my xubntu cuz i saw today at work a BIG RAT not a mouse but a rat and i dont want to see the lil mouse there :) | 14:37 |
| vidd | brb | 14:39 |
| vidd | arg! what happened to <ctrl>+<alt>+<bksp>????? | 14:58 |
| vidd | brb | 14:58 |
| === Guest82489 is now known as forces | ||
| PingJocky | is there a trick to get Gigolo working? | 15:32 |
| PingJocky | or am i missing something? | 15:32 |
| hannes_eee | hello | 16:06 |
| hannes_eee | just upgraded 8.10 to 9.04 on another laptop | 16:07 |
| hannes_eee | the problem is that the nm-applet is not working | 16:07 |
| hannes_eee | and hal and dbus aren't starting at startup | 16:08 |
| hannes_eee | so i am not able to connect to wireless | 16:08 |
| hannes_eee | no ideas or any known bugs? | 16:14 |
| Mood | hannes_eee: did you reboot? | 16:14 |
| hannes_eee | yes | 16:14 |
| hannes_eee | several times | 16:14 |
| Mood | did you try sudo apt-get update/upgrade? | 16:14 |
| hannes_eee | yes and now i'm dpkg -i *.deb in /var/cache/packages | 16:15 |
| hannes_eee | so i'll see what happens | 16:15 |
| Mood | hannes_eee: does ifconfig show eth0 and wlan0? | 16:16 |
| hannes_eee | yes | 16:16 |
| Mood | does wired connection work? | 16:16 |
| hannes_eee | no possibility | 16:17 |
| Mood | ? | 16:17 |
| hannes_eee | atm | 16:17 |
| hannes_eee | the router is quite a bit away | 16:17 |
| Mood | hannes_eee: i'd first see if wired connection works to get that out of the equation | 16:18 |
| ball | hello charlie-tca | 16:20 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, ball | 16:21 |
| Marcurus | how is it? | 16:22 |
| Marcurus | !hello | charlie-tca | 16:22 |
| ubottu | charlie-tca: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 16:22 |
| Marcurus | :) | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | how is what? | 16:22 |
| Marcurus | that bot command :) | 16:23 |
| Marcurus | the bot command // hopefully correct answer | 16:23 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, I see | 16:24 |
| hannes_eee | ok the dpkg -i did the trick after a reboot it works | 16:24 |
| hannes_eee | thanks anyway | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | same as !hi, right | 16:25 |
| charlie-tca | !hi | 16:25 |
| ubottu | Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 16:25 |
| Marcurus | ehm... that bot.. is he reading itself? 0:-) | 16:26 |
| * Marcurus thinks about !hi | !hi | 16:26 | |
| charlie-tca | No, anything prefaced with ! is a bot command | 16:26 |
| charlie-tca | You don't need a nick for the 'bot to respond | 16:26 |
| Marcurus | yeah, but this way, shouldt it cycle the bot indefinitely? | 16:27 |
| charlie-tca | A simple !hi or !hello should get a respond | 16:27 |
| charlie-tca | I told it to say hi using !hi | 16:27 |
| charlie-tca | If it is cycling on your computer, something is wrong with the client you are using | 16:28 |
| Marcurus | if I say !hi | !hi, he will say !hi: Hi! Welcome... which may trigger another round | 16:28 |
| Marcurus | !hi | !hi | 16:29 |
| ubottu | !hi: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 16:29 |
| Marcurus | :( | 16:29 |
| Marcurus | I forgot the ':' | 16:29 |
| Marcurus | I though it will read his own sentence and trigger itself again | 16:29 |
| Marcurus | ah, never mind :D | 16:30 |
| Marcurus | I am just stupid probably, not even pipe there :D | 16:30 |
| charlie-tca | !ubottu | 16:31 |
| ubottu | Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 16:31 |
| chewit | charlie-tca, whats the latest with Xfce 4.6.1 in Jaunty? | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | It is not in jaunty yet | 16:31 |
| chewit | ok, when will it go to the updates? | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | It will go after it gets packaged for us. | 16:31 |
| charlie-tca | Don't have dates yet | 16:32 |
| chewit | ok | 16:32 |
| chewit | thanks | 16:32 |
| Kerio | heh not near as much commotion here as in ubuntu channel | 16:35 |
| ball | Hello Kerio | 16:35 |
| Kerio | hello | 16:36 |
| carlis | Hi | 16:36 |
| carlis | I need help | 16:36 |
| Kerio | with what? | 16:36 |
| carlis | I want to install xubuntu from my flash memory how do i do it ? | 16:37 |
| Kerio | it's almost like you can hear the typing :) | 16:37 |
| carlis | How do i do it Kerio ?? | 16:38 |
| Kerio | http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ | 16:38 |
| Kerio | haven't tried it myself | 16:38 |
| carlis | ok. | 16:39 |
| carlis | Thanks for helping me Kerio | 16:39 |
| carlis | Bye Kerio | 16:40 |
| tavasti | anybody with experience on installing vdr with xineliboutput? | 16:57 |
| tavasti | I have xubuntu 8.10 with vdr packages from http://www.hanno.de/ | 16:58 |
| tavasti | and can't get it running, xine window opens, but closes immediately, and vdr quits | 16:58 |
| skull | hi | 17:30 |
| skull | i need ur help | 17:30 |
| genii | skull: A description of the problem you are having first would be useful | 17:33 |
| skull | how can i config dialup connection | 17:34 |
| genii | skull: from command line: sudo pppconfig and then enter the relevant info. After that you should be able to click on the network icon and tell it to dial out, etc | 17:38 |
| genii | Please note in pppconfig your mouse is useless, use the Tab key to change fields, Enter to select, etc | 17:39 |
| skull | thanx i try | 17:43 |
| carlis | I want to create a bootable Live USB drives for install Xubuntu and I have this webpage: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/. I think is difficult. Is there another way to do it more easy ? | 17:59 |
| carlis | Thanks for help | 17:59 |
| carlis | Who can help me ??? | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/ | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | Might help. It is written by an Xubuntu user | 18:01 |
| * Pres-Gas gets his rss action on for that weblog... | 18:01 | |
| carlis | ok | 18:02 |
| carlis | Thanks for helping me Charlie | 18:02 |
| carlis | Bye Charlie | 18:02 |
| charlie-tca | He tries to do the flash drive for every release, so it is tested in jaunty | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | yp | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 18:03 |
| J_Litewski | charlie-tca: I downloaded the notification-daemon-xfce and tried to compile it, and i get permission denied. I tried running it as root and still the same problem | 18:16 |
| charlie-tca | J_Litewski: I don't know anything about it | 18:17 |
| J_Litewski | ah | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | Why are you compiling it instead of installing it from Synaptic Package Manager? | 18:17 |
| J_Litewski | it's not in the package manager | 18:17 |
| J_Litewski | i checked already | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | You might check in #xfce then, to see what is missing | 18:18 |
| J_Litewski | ok | 18:18 |
| Dillizar | J_Litewski maybe you need to turn oc the X and try to install it like that | 18:21 |
| Dillizar | off* | 18:21 |
| J_Litewski | ? | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | J_Litewski: Maybe you need xfce4-notifyd with it? | 18:27 |
| J_Litewski | charle-tca, i got that | 18:27 |
| Yondering | hello.. attempting to follow the directions at ttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 and wound up with http://paste.ubuntu.com/160830/ when trying to run pulseaudio from a terminal. any ideas? | 18:30 |
| charlie-tca | PulseAudio is not used in Xubuntu, you should ask in Ubuntu | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | sorry, #ubuntu | 18:37 |
| accab | If pulse audio isn't used, what is? I dont get any sound on my laptop | 18:39 |
| accab | and was thinking of going throught that ubuntu checklist to see if it fixed things | 18:39 |
| nikolam | I have a silly question | 18:46 |
| nikolam | Why programs use so much RAM? | 18:46 |
| nikolam | Xfce and panels and plugins in particular. I am on 64bit | 18:46 |
| nikolam | xfce4-menu-plugin uses 97.7MB and climing | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | accab: Xubuntu uses alsa audio | 18:48 |
| nikolam | i use hardy | 18:48 |
| accab | @charlie-tca thanks | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | Do you have the speaker icon on the panel? | 18:49 |
| accab | I will work my way through the checklist there, ther | 18:49 |
| accab | no I don't | 18:49 |
| accab | come to think of it | 18:49 |
| nikolam | xfrun4 for instance, use 6.4MB of RAM. Just sitting and waiting for Alt+F2, right? | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | right click the panel, click add to panel, add the volume control | 18:50 |
| accab | that would be alsa-mixer or something like that? | 18:50 |
| J_Litewski | how would I upgrade the XFCE package to 4.6.1? | 18:50 |
| nikolam | charlie-tca, or he can use drag and drop if adding does not work | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | Then left-click twice to open properties and make sure master and pcm are unmuted | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | nikolam: I don't know much about ram usage. | 18:51 |
| accab | yup | 18:51 |
| accab | done that | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | now see if you have sound | 18:51 |
| accab | let me find a test wav | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | in /usr/share/sounds/purple/ | 18:52 |
| nikolam | also about cpu usage, gnome-system-monitor uses 39% of cpu time | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | system monitor always steals a lot of cpu, then settles down if you don't do anything | 18:53 |
| nikolam | shouldn`t it use ,like 0% or something | 18:53 |
| gartral1 | whats the default text editor in xubutu (gui) | 18:53 |
| charlie-tca | Only if nothing else is happening. Just a mouse movement will make it go way up | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | mousepad | 18:54 |
| nikolam | It shows itself on more then 40% all the time now. And nothing but Xorg is using much cpu | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | gartral1: mousepad | 18:54 |
| gartral1 | ok, and gksu mousepad will work to edit a system file, right? | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | nikolam: I found it got so bad I could not keep it on all the time. It steals too much cpu | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | gartral1: right | 18:55 |
| Carlis | Hi Charlie | 18:55 |
| Carlis | I have a question for u | 18:55 |
| nikolam | Also I suffer very bad multitaskin issues, whenever disk is heavily used, everything freezes. Especially when update or package install is being done. | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | go ahead, Carlis | 18:56 |
| Carlis | ok | 18:56 |
| nikolam | charlie-tca, maybe I should file a bug on gnome-system-monitor, for being a cpu pig. | 18:56 |
| Carlis | Is possible to install usb-creator in windows ¿ | 18:56 |
| Carlis | ? | 18:57 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know, Carlis | 18:57 |
| charlie-tca | I never use it. | 18:57 |
| gartral1 | carlis you need unetbootin | 18:57 |
| charlie-tca | I would think you would need one written for windows | 18:57 |
| nikolam | what is usb-creator? | 18:57 |
| Carlis | It`s diffiicult oto use unetbooting | 18:58 |
| knome | Carlis, usb-creator is available in live cd | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | Used to create a live cd on a thumbdrive | 18:58 |
| nikolam | I made usb bootable xubuntu drive out of xubuntu desktop, very easily , usin unetbootin ! | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | but that don't really work from windows, does it? | 18:59 |
| nikolam | what it have to do with windows? | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | I think the cpu usage bug is reported already | 18:59 |
| charlie-tca | <Carlis> Is possible to install usb-creator in windows ¿ | 19:00 |
| nikolam | charlie-tca, thanks | 19:00 |
| charlie-tca | That was the question. | 19:00 |
| nikolam | one can use virtualbox | 19:01 |
| Carlis | virtualbox ??? | 19:01 |
| nikolam | why you need windows? | 19:02 |
| Carlis | because In windows I have the zubuntu iso file | 19:02 |
| nikolam | well buy one cdrw media and boot computer to xubuntu desktop from cd | 19:03 |
| nikolam | then make your usb. | 19:03 |
| Carlis | is not possible to create in usb ??? | 19:04 |
| SiDi | you can | 19:05 |
| SiDi | !install usb | 19:05 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about install usb | 19:05 |
| SiDi | there is on the wiki a guide that tells you how to do manually | 19:05 |
| SiDi | basically, open your ISO with something like daemon tools | 19:05 |
| SiDi | copy all the files to the USB key freshly formated to FAT16 | 19:05 |
| nikolam | yes it is man, boou xubuntu from cd and make it. there is also one more program, just a second to find it.. | 19:05 |
| SiDi | and then you'll have to rename a few files (thats the part i cant remember) | 19:06 |
| SiDi | nikolam: the point of making an usb bootable key from windows is avoiding having to make a cdrom :) | 19:06 |
| SiDi | Carlis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick | 19:07 |
| SiDi | Check at the middle-end, manual methods | 19:07 |
| nikolam | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ | 19:07 |
| nikolam | i used to use gui for that from iso to usb. Just to find the name of it | 19:07 |
| nikolam | This is onteresting Carlis http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-xubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/ | 19:08 |
| Carlis | Ok | 19:10 |
| Carlis | Thank You very much for helping me alot | 19:10 |
| nikolam | Carlis, Why don`t you just use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ for windows? | 19:10 |
| accab | charlie-tca -- I found the sound files. I click them. they play, but no sound comes out :-( | 19:10 |
| accab | is there some kind of checklist I can try? | 19:11 |
| nikolam | accab, turn your speakers on or plug headphones to right hole | 19:11 |
| Carlis | because Unetbooting is difficult | 19:11 |
| nikolam | Carlis, You can make any kind of bootable usb with it.. | 19:12 |
| nikolam | Carlis, why difficult?? | 19:12 |
| nikolam | just point it to your .iso you have | 19:12 |
| nikolam | check your .iso with md5 program to see if it downloaded right | 19:13 |
| nikolam | Carlis, it is easiest program in the universe to make bootable usb... | 19:13 |
| nikolam | Carlis, I don`t understand you. | 19:14 |
| accab | ah. fixed it, I think. this is a laptop, so the speakers are always on. But there was a checkbox for "headphone jack sense" and if that was ticked, there was no sound | 19:14 |
| accab | thanks | 19:14 |
| accab | next question: where is the desktop menu file stored? | 19:15 |
| nikolam | Carlis, you have nice gui app to make bootable usb from .iso you have. Case closed. | 19:15 |
| accab | It has grown hugely bloated since I upgraded to 9.04, and I can't find the graphical menu editor that used to be there | 19:15 |
| Carlis | gui app where is it ? | 19:16 |
| Carlis | ok. Nikolam Thanks for helping me | 19:18 |
| nikolam | Carlis http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ | 19:18 |
| Carlis | ok | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | accab: glad yuou got sound fixed. | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | menu files are in /usr/share/applications | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | If you are planning on modifying them, | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | copy '/etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to '~/.config/xdg/menus' and customize it. | 19:19 |
| Carlis | Thanks for helping me Nikolam | 19:19 |
| Carlis | Bye | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | accab: You can also create desktop entries in '~/.local/share/applications' to override the existing applications (change or hide) or add new ones. | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | even more help available at http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu | 19:20 |
| todkon | Hmm, how would I get xfce4-mcs-manager intalled in Jaunty? | 19:20 |
| accab | charlie-tca: thanks. That's masses of help - a long evening's fiddling lies ahead | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | There is no menu editor in xfce 4.6 yet, so you have to do it manually | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | todkon: you don't | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | it is not used in 9.04 | 19:21 |
| todkon | ah, is it obsolete? | 19:21 |
| accab | I have scite, which edits xml files as well as anything else | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 19:21 |
| todkon | what's used to boot up all the ggtk stuff? | 19:21 |
| Pres-Gas | Boy, it sho would help if I remembered that reformatting a partition during an install will generate a new uuid for it. | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | accab: that should work | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | can't remember, todkon | 19:21 |
| charlie-tca | Pres-Gas: +1 | 19:22 |
| todkon | ah | 19:22 |
| * charlie-tca puts memory under "brain-dead" today | 19:23 | |
| Pres-Gas | charlie-tca, needed to test Fedora 10 for something...did not let it install Grub and edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst to manually add it...all of that was well. Then saw that fsck could not resolve a uuid. Should check /etc/fstab too. | 19:24 |
| hezy | hi, anyone knows if it's possible to have Thunar use the EXIF of image files to present thumbnail in the right orientation? | 19:24 |
| nikolam | hezy, you can get thunar source with apt-get source thunar. Check it out and make it use :) | 19:36 |
| hezy | nikolam: yes, but as far as I know thumbnails in thunar are handled by plugins. | 19:38 |
| nikolam | so the question is, what plugin does it | 19:38 |
| nikolam | #debian-xfce ? | 19:38 |
| nikolam | hezy, thunar-thumbnailers ? | 19:40 |
| hezy | nikolam: I'm using xubuntu. | 19:41 |
| nikolam | me also | 19:41 |
| hezy | I think it's the same in debian | 19:41 |
| hezy | anyway, I'm not sure if there is an easy way to do it' or is it a feature I should ask for | 19:43 |
| SiDi | hezy: ask JPohlmann if he's around | 19:51 |
| SiDi | he's working on thunar at the moment, so he might know how its / if its managed | 19:51 |
| hezy | SiDi: where can I find JPohlmann ? | 20:04 |
| SiDi | He's here, just wait and i'm sure he'll answer when he got a minute | 20:07 |
| hezy | thanks SiDi | 20:07 |
| hezy | JPohlmann: is there a way to make Thunar use the EXIF of image files in order to present thumbnails in the right orientation? | 20:15 |
| nikolam | hmm, how do we check real CPU speed ? | 20:16 |
| nikolam | I overclocked my machine a bit, but everythin still displays original cpu speed.. | 20:16 |
| nikolam | maybe because /proc/cpuinfo reads data from cpu directly and does not display real current cpu speed | 20:18 |
| zoredache | run some process that stresses the cpu like PI calculators when system is not over-clocked and after it is overclocked | 20:19 |
| nikolam | on the hardware side, I think that overclocking is done. On some other OS, it displays changed cpu speed corectly. Also I set performance in emifreq | 20:20 |
| nikolam | zoredache, you think it actually works on stock speed, even if it is set to overclock in motherboard settings? | 20:21 |
| nikolam | I compile something right now, I think it is enough | 20:22 |
| nikolam | oh my god even sound is twitching when disk activity is high... | 20:27 |
| histo | Is there a volume control that doesn't suck for jaunty? I click on it and it opens a window rather than just having a slider. | 22:19 |
| SiDi | more or less the principle of a sound mixer | 22:20 |
| SiDi | offering more than one channel | 22:20 |
| SiDi | feel free to use gnome's one via an xfapplet tho | 22:20 |
| histo | No i'm saying most users are used to just clicking and getting a slider but right or double clicking to get a mixer. | 22:20 |
| histo | Anyhoot if I do pull up the mixer I only get one channel anyways. | 22:21 |
| SiDi | you are used to :) | 22:21 |
| SiDi | i personally prefer having a window that i can close easily instead of a slider taking focus and having to click back on the icon to close it, as under gnome | 22:21 |
| J_Litewski | where would I go if i find spelling mistakes in the Help Documentation? | 22:25 |
| J_Litewski | do i have to create a patch, or just fix the mistakes and upload them? | 22:25 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, to hell ? | 22:25 |
| artistxe | ;) | 22:25 |
| J_Litewski | ;) | 22:25 |
| artistxe | j/k . do not know of where to report bugs in the docs | 22:25 |
| SiDi | J_Litewski: launchpad.net | 22:26 |
| SiDi | translations of xubuntu-docs | 22:26 |
| J_Litewski | ah, ok | 22:26 |
| SiDi | ;) | 22:26 |
| histo | SiDi: yeah they could have it disapear after a certain amount of time. | 22:26 |
| J_Litewski | might as well help xubuntu by spell checking lol | 22:26 |
| J_Litewski | i found one problem already | 22:26 |
| artistxe | one would think that the docs were spell checked. funny . | 22:27 |
| J_Litewski | well, it was more of a copy and pasteerror | 22:27 |
| J_Litewski | * paste error | 22:27 |
| J_Litewski | damn space key | 22:27 |
| artistxe | damned* | 22:28 |
| J_Litewski | lol | 22:28 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, I am beginning to suspect that you are not the right one for the job :P | 22:29 |
| J_Litewski | heh | 22:29 |
| J_Litewski | i use to be a spelling bee champ before my memory started going | 22:30 |
| artistxe | reminding me off the phrase " Get off the girl and give me a try" | 22:30 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, that is horrible. how old are you ? | 22:30 |
| J_Litewski | 21 | 22:30 |
| J_Litewski | err... 20 | 22:30 |
| J_Litewski | almost 21 | 22:30 |
| SiDi | started going huh ? | 22:30 |
| SiDi | cant remember your age? :D | 22:31 |
| J_Litewski | it's part of the drugs my parents put me on | 22:31 |
| artistxe | 21 and your memory is going ??? how much junk food are you consuming ? | 22:31 |
| J_Litewski | stupid zoloft and ritalin | 22:31 |
| SiDi | ew | 22:31 |
| J_Litewski | yea | 22:31 |
| J_Litewski | first gen stuff | 22:31 |
| artistxe | ritalin has some bizarre effects if you snort it ( I have, ahem, heard) | 22:32 |
| J_Litewski | destroyed my short term memory | 22:32 |
| J_Litewski | brb dishes | 22:32 |
| artistxe | wow. at 21 and your memory is going | 22:32 |
| charlie-tca | J_Litewski: report the help bugs in launchpad | 22:32 |
| SiDi | night people | 22:33 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs | 22:33 |
| charlie-tca | for them | 22:33 |
| evilbug | i made a xubuntu 9.04 install flash drive via unetbootin to install on an eee and i can't get past the cdrom install part. | 22:34 |
| charlie-tca | http://xubuntublog.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/ubuntu-from-your-flash-drive-easier-than-ever-before/ | 22:35 |
| evilbug | charlie-tca: the flash drive came out fine though. | 22:38 |
| charlie-tca | But it isn't installing? | 22:39 |
| charlie-tca | What is not working? | 22:39 |
| evilbug | charlie-tca: so the only option from the unetbootin menu i can boot with is Default. i get through language and keyboard layout but then it gets to the cdrom drive part, asking to install drivers from it. | 22:41 |
| charlie-tca | If you are installing from USB, you should not need cdrom drivers | 22:42 |
| evilbug | that's what the menu is telling me. | 22:42 |
| evilbug | it asks me for a cdrom drive. | 22:42 |
| evilbug | i'm going to try creating the flash boot again using usb-creator now. | 22:42 |
| charlie-tca | I would look at that blog post, personally | 22:43 |
| dj_bushido | can somebody help me with awn? | 22:43 |
| charlie-tca | !awn | 22:44 |
| ubottu | Avant Window Navigator is a dock-like navigation bar for the Linux desktop that positions itself at the bottom of the screen. Homepage http://wiki.awn-project.org/ Awn-Manager can be found the Gutsy !backports repository and in Universe in Hardy | 22:44 |
| dj_bushido | I meant a problem. | 22:44 |
| knome | you can always ask | 22:44 |
| dj_bushido | currently I am getting an error that it python can't import awn. I checked to make sure that it wasn't running from /usr/local/bin but I still can't import the module | 22:45 |
| knome | we might not know the answer, though, as this is not the awn support channel | 22:45 |
| dj_bushido | for the record as well, the python bindings are installed (dependency). | 22:45 |
| charlie-tca | You might want to try #awn | 22:47 |
| JPohlmann | hezy: I think Thunar is supposed to do that already. | 22:48 |
| knome | JPohlmann, *you* *think*? :P | 22:49 |
| J_Litewski | when did OOo become the standard office suite for Xubuntu? | 22:49 |
| hezy | JPohlmann: I'm using Thunar 1.0.0 in the new xubuntu 9.04, and it does not seem to do it | 22:50 |
| J_Litewski | because it wasn't installed when I installed Xubuntu last year | 22:50 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, and is there even a "standard office suite" for xubuntu anyway ? | 22:51 |
| charlie-tca | J_Litewski: It isn't. | 22:51 |
| J_Litewski | ah | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu installs Gnumeric and Abiword | 22:52 |
| J_Litewski | then the docs lie | 22:52 |
| artistxe | and that's it | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | Turn in a bug report on it to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-docs | 22:52 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski spellchecks the docs and then he takes them to court gotta love it | 22:53 |
| J_Litewski | ok, I will once i'm done | 22:53 |
| J_Litewski | lol | 22:53 |
| hezy | JPohlmann: I use GPicView to turn photos 90 deg (landscape to portrait) and all the other programs show the thumbnail as portrait. Thunar does not | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | every little bit helps | 22:54 |
| artistxe | I think you are focussing too much on docs. have anything better to do there ? like mahjongg or pron ? | 22:54 |
| J_Litewski | lol | 22:54 |
| J_Litewski | i'm just trying to make sure that the info is correct | 22:54 |
| charlie-tca | Docs are pretty important! That is what the new user gets his impressions from | 22:54 |
| JPohlmann | hezy: Well, hm, file a bug then. I'm currently working on Thunar but that thing will have to wait for a while. | 22:54 |
| JPohlmann | But it would still be useful to know about that bug to fix it later. | 22:55 |
| J_Litewski | since i'm not good enough to code (yet), this is making me feel good | 22:55 |
| artistxe | charlie-tca, very true. just joking though. | 22:55 |
| charlie-tca | I like mahjongg | 22:55 |
| hezy | JPohlmann: thanks. And btw, thanks for the great work you are doing :) | 22:55 |
| JPohlmann | You're welcome! | 22:56 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, just joking . ppl do appreciate good docs . and charlie-tca I do also every once in awhile. is one of the only games I play | 22:56 |
| J_Litewski | charlie-tca, quick question. how would i change my DNS settings for my wired connection if the button is grayed out? | 22:56 |
| charlie-tca | Try GNU Backgammon. It is really good, too | 22:57 |
| dj_bushido | to change DNS you might have to authorize the program with your sudo password. | 22:59 |
| J_Litewski | i can do it with my wireless connection without the sudo password | 23:00 |
| J_Litewski | it complains about my keyring though | 23:01 |
| artistxe | charlie-tca, I have backgammon somewhere ( bsdgames) but I cannot start from terminal for some reason ( cannot recall proper name ) | 23:02 |
| charlie-tca | That's why I use gnubackgammon. It shows up in the menu! | 23:03 |
| charlie-tca | It is world-class play, too | 23:03 |
| artistxe | oh. you use menus | 23:03 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 23:03 |
| artistxe | ;) | 23:04 |
| charlie-tca | I fought with backgammon in the terminal, never did get any of them to work for me | 23:04 |
| evilbug | charlie-tca: now it works fine, thanks. | 23:04 |
| artistxe | okay . and it is so not under games menu or anywhere else I can see in xubuntu | 23:04 |
| artistxe | char | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | You have to install it | 23:05 |
| artistxe | charlie-tca, unless you are running xubuntu with gnome | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | It is not a default game | 23:05 |
| artistxe | oh. I see. | 23:05 |
| charlie-tca | called gnubg | 23:06 |
| artistxe | oh. " couldn't find package gnubackgammon" | 23:07 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I had to go look, myself | 23:07 |
| artistxe | it suggested kbackgammon before installing gnubg | 23:08 |
| charlie-tca | I have xgammon installed, and gnubg | 23:08 |
| charlie-tca | I don't use kubuntu, so I don't install kbackgammon | 23:08 |
| artistxe | oh. I am not a fan of anything KDE | 23:09 |
| artistxe | charlie-tca, got it . looks very cool. thanks for the tip :) | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | welcome. Enjoy it | 23:09 |
| charlie-tca | Took me a while to learn how to use it. It really is good | 23:10 |
| artistxe | one question though. is there a way to move pieces via keyboard instead of using the mouse ? | 23:11 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, click new, it shows the keyboard keys | 23:11 |
| JPohlmann | hezy: Thanks for the report | 23:12 |
| artistxe | cool | 23:12 |
| charlie-tca | I think help goes through them, too | 23:13 |
| hezy | JPohlmann: sure. sorry that I can't help much more than that... | 23:14 |
| JPohlmann | It's ok. I'll not be able to do anything about it right now but as soon as I can I'll try to reproduce it. | 23:15 |
| JPohlmann | hezy: Can you maybe attach an example image, maybe before and after rotating it with GPicView? | 23:15 |
| hezy | JPohlmann: sure, no problem. | 23:16 |
| JPohlmann | Thanks | 23:16 |
| J_Litewski | it's fun breaking the help documents | 23:19 |
| J_Litewski | it's also fun fixing them too | 23:21 |
| charlie-tca | :-) | 23:21 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, you mentioned that you do not code yet. if you want to learn I would suggest playing around with Python as a start | 23:21 |
| J_Litewski | the 'how to restore a deleted file' info box was wrong | 23:22 |
| J_Litewski | i was looking into python artistxe, it looks fun | 23:22 |
| artistxe | oh . it is. and very easy to learn with so many resources available for getting started | 23:23 |
| J_Litewski | i'm thinking about installing the python hooks for the xfce4 desktop and panel and making little test things | 23:23 |
| artistxe | sure. why not | 23:23 |
| J_Litewski | since i'm still having problems with making my own notification box | 23:23 |
| J_Litewski | i can do it using a loophole in the API, but not using the libnotify/notify.h way | 23:24 |
| artistxe | J_Litewski, to get used to the idea of basic parameters , do you have conky installed ? | 23:24 |
| J_Litewski | not sure | 23:24 |
| J_Litewski | i'll check | 23:25 |
| artistxe | then you do not | 23:25 |
| demon_ | my xubuntu doesnt want to boot | 23:25 |
| artistxe | anyway. it is basic scripting . you can start with that | 23:25 |
| artistxe | demon_, ppl have been having that problem. sorry to hear you are one of them. is it a laptop ? | 23:26 |
| J_Litewski | ok, ty artistxe | 23:26 |
| demon_ | yes | 23:26 |
| artistxe | demon_, any other os installed besides xubuntu ? | 23:26 |
| demon_ | nope | 23:26 |
| demon_ | just download the alternative version cuz i have only 128 ram | 23:27 |
| artistxe | okay. this is going to sound very silly. does it startup ( the comp) and the power light flashes for a bit. and then it sounds like it winds down before it shuts off ? | 23:27 |
| demon_ | the installation was good and then the line goes few cm and the stops | 23:27 |
| knome | demon_, just for start, xubuntu will be very slow even if it booted. | 23:27 |
| demon_ | cuz i have 128ram | 23:27 |
| knome | yes. | 23:27 |
| artistxe | wow..... | 23:28 |
| demon_ | :( | 23:28 |
| demon_ | but it needs only 128 ram right | 23:28 |
| artistxe | uh. dunno | 23:28 |
| demon_ | 196 to install but i have the alternative cd | 23:28 |
| J_Litewski | it needs around 256 to run smoothly | 23:29 |
| demon_ | sure? | 23:29 |
| J_Litewski | 128 is good for command line | 23:29 |
| * artistxe suggest Puppy at that rate . a laptop with 128 ??? | 23:29 | |
| demon_ | or lxfe? | 23:29 |
| J_Litewski | i use to have a lappy with 24mb of RAM | 23:29 |
| artistxe | no | 23:29 |
| demon_ | what about opengeu | 23:30 |
| demon_ | can i run it on 128ram? | 23:30 |
| demon_ | elive works :) | 23:30 |
| artistxe | e16 should work | 23:30 |
| forces | saluton | 23:30 |
| knome | demon_, it is *possible* that xubuntu runs with 128ram. | 23:30 |
| artistxe | knome. just not on his computer. | 23:31 |
| demon_ | lol | 23:31 |
| demon_ | :D | 23:31 |
| charlie-tca | You can run xubuntu with 128ram, but it is slow, may take 5 minutes to boot | 23:31 |
| knome | artistxe, looks like that. | 23:31 |
| demon_ | i have 366mhz | 23:31 |
| beejay7777 | hi | 23:31 |
| artistxe | demon_, can you run the live disc ? | 23:31 |
| beejay7777 | after upgrade i have :"No Exec line in the session file: xfce. Starting failsafe GNOME" | 23:31 |
| knome | charlie-tca is the expert on running xubuntu with low ram | 23:31 |
| beejay7777 | any clue what to do | 23:31 |
| beejay7777 | ? | 23:32 |
| demon_ | artistxe, i dont have a livecd | 23:32 |
| charlie-tca | beejay7777: yes | 23:32 |
| artistxe | beejay7777, go into gnome. find the file that handles sessions . and make xfce default ( I am guessing) | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | You will need to edit /home/USER_NAME/.dmrc and change the line that says SESSION=xfce4 to SESSION=xfce | 23:33 |
| charlie-tca | Then restart | 23:34 |
| beejay7777 | charlie-tca: this xubuntu is on my parents computer - the upgrade did not go smooth | 23:34 |
| charlie-tca | that little change will fix the error | 23:34 |
| artistxe | the file with start with a "dm" maybe for desktop manager ......hold on . be right back | 23:35 |
| charlie-tca | artistxe: no | 23:35 |
| J_Litewski | heh, Chapter 12. Customising Your Computer | 23:35 |
| beejay7777 | i reboot and check | 23:36 |
| artistxe | charlie-tca, sorry. you are right. I was not reading full convo | 23:36 |
| artistxe | dmrc stands for what ? | 23:36 |
| artistxe | I remember seeing that in my home directory | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | I do not know | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | I only know what fixes that error | 23:37 |
| artistxe | yes. well the file only seems to list the default session | 23:37 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe it is desktop manager resource configuration | 23:38 |
| artistxe | makes sense | 23:38 |
| beejay7777 | working beautifull | 23:39 |
| beejay7777 | thanks a lot | 23:40 |
| artistxe | beejay7777, what did that file read anyway before you edited it ? | 23:40 |
| artistxe | and why is upgrade doing this to ppl ? | 23:40 |
| beejay7777 | SESSION=xfce4 | 23:41 |
| knome | the script (or sth) to run for xfce changed for 4.6 | 23:41 |
| charlie-tca | It is a bug. We found it too late to fix it | 23:41 |
| artistxe | hahaha | 23:41 |
| knome | charlie-tca, there was not really a way to fix it and at the same time to really migrate to the new name. | 23:41 |
| artistxe | sorry . but I have to compose myself after that one | 23:41 |
| artistxe | seriously ( a startup bug) ? | 23:42 |
| charlie-tca | And, you don't see it if they select "xfce4 session" when you log in the first time after the upgrade | 23:42 |
| knome | artistxe, it is not as bad as including kde 4.0 in the kubuntu release earlier | 23:42 |
| knome | artistxe, where the complete desktop was broken for many many people | 23:42 |
| artistxe | knome. screw the KDE users :P | 23:43 |
| knome | artistxe, and many basic users had to do complete re-installs | 23:43 |
| charlie-tca | weighed the options, it was judged less serious than breaking jaunty at the last minute | 23:43 |
| knome | charlie-tca, ? | 23:43 |
| artistxe | I kould kare less about them | 23:43 |
| knome | charlie-tca, the kde 4.0 versus xfce 4.6 startup? | 23:44 |
| beejay7777 | i have to say that upgrade from distance brake on hal configuration for me | 23:44 |
| charlie-tca | No, the upgrade 8.10 to 9.04 bug in .dmrc | 23:44 |
| knome | charlie-tca, right. | 23:44 |
| beejay7777 | and i have to do it by the phone :) | 23:44 |
| charlie-tca | beejay7777: don't know that one | 23:44 |
| knome | charlie-tca, the reason i feel including kde 4.0 back then is epic fail is that the kubuntu team already had a way to sandbox kde4 *and* run kde3 simultaneously. | 23:45 |
| beejay7777 | i connect to my parents computer through ssh | 23:45 |
| knome | charlie-tca, but they decided to go with the broken desktop, even if they knew it would lead to catastrophe. | 23:45 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, that seemed like a big mistake to me | 23:46 |
| knome | charlie-tca, that was a silly decision from the kubuntu team and knowing what their leader thought about the desktop being broken for many people... | 23:46 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i'm not saying they didn't do all they could, but there was an option to keep kde3, even if it wasn't that new and experimental. | 23:47 |
| knome | charlie-tca, kde4 was already available for users who wanted it. | 23:47 |
| knome | charlie-tca, it lost kubuntu many users. | 23:47 |
| charlie-tca | I agree. At least we all learned from that, though | 23:48 |
| knome | enough of rants :) | 23:48 |
| knome | true | 23:48 |
| knome | just have to remember to keep our head calm even if we have something really nice coming. | 23:48 |
| beejay7777 | charlie-tca: thanks a lot again - maybe put this info about bug somewher - i was googling and can not find anything | 23:49 |
| knome | charlie-tca, isn't the bug in the release notes? | 23:49 |
| charlie-tca | No, we opted to leave it out for some reason I can't recall | 23:49 |
| knome | right | 23:49 |
| * knome has some pressure on keeping the artwork quality as high as it was for jaunty | 23:51 | |
| artistxe | we opted sounds so suspicious | 23:52 |
| charlie-tca | It was discussed and decided ? better | 23:52 |
| knome | artistxe, it was a developer community decision and i believe it was wise, even if i wasn't part of it. | 23:52 |
| charlie-tca | I think I must be tired, my English is going to hell | 23:52 |
| knome | ehm, even if i wasn't online discussing it. :) | 23:53 |
| knome | charlie-tca, lol ;) | 23:53 |
| knome | charlie-tca, i only slept for 5,5 hours after the night shift | 23:53 |
| artistxe | how many devs are in this room ? | 23:53 |
| charlie-tca | omg! you should perhaps get some sleep today | 23:53 |
| beejay7777 | thanks again, i go to sleep, bye | 23:54 |
| knome | artistxe, about five at the moment. | 23:54 |
| knome | artistxe, our main channel for development is #xubuntu-devel | 23:54 |
| artistxe | knome. I see. and is the room passwd only ? | 23:54 |
| knome | artistxe, nope. feel free to join | 23:55 |
| charlie-tca | Several will monitor the channel at any given time. They will attempt to help as needed | 23:55 |
| artistxe | oh. I might do that one afternoon. | 23:55 |
| charlie-tca | Just keep support questions over here, please. | 23:55 |
| artistxe | pfft. of course. | 23:55 |
| knome | artistxe, basically our development discussion is open for everyone to participate | 23:55 |
| knome | charlie-tca, as usual... :P | 23:55 |
| knome | charlie-tca, where is the channel for xubuntu talk which is not about development or support but still is not offtopic? | 23:56 |
| artistxe | knome. I see. same goes with blendercoders ( although I do not agree with that idea all of the time) | 23:56 |
| charlie-tca | I see more and more asking in #xubuntu-devel when it should have been asked here | 23:56 |
| knome | artistxe, of course the core developer team has the last word. | 23:56 |
| knome | charlie-tca, true | 23:56 |
| artistxe | knome. I would hope so | 23:56 |
| knome | artistxe, we definitely do :P | 23:56 |
| charlie-tca | don't have one, knome. We only have the three channels for xubuntu | 23:57 |
| zoredache | knome: actually, as the user of OSS software I have the final word... | 23:57 |
| knome | charlie-tca, so that must be #xubuntu then, but only when there is no support going on | 23:57 |
| charlie-tca | yeah | 23:57 |
| knome | zoredache, really? on what we're going to include to the next release? :) | 23:57 |
| djs | I had an upgrade go horribly wrong. Where can I find the official repositories for Xubuntu? | 23:57 |
| knome | to be honest, this is not about words. | 23:57 |
| knome | djs, what did go wrong? | 23:58 |
| zoredache | knome: what is the release doesn't directly relate to what I use on my system | 23:58 |
| knome | djs, do you need the package repositories or the cd ISO? | 23:58 |
| charlie-tca | djs: uncheck all the sources in Applications -> System -> Software Sources | 23:58 |
| charlie-tca | close it, then open it and check them again. It will rebuild the list | 23:59 |
| artistxe | knome : you would have to agree though. sometimes it can be a disaster fighting thru all of the end user requests vs the ppl that are actually working on the code | 23:59 |
| charlie-tca | knome: user always gets the last word, since if they don't use the OS, it would disappear | 23:59 |
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