, I can just give you a template for it, matching the soon to be wiki.kubuntu.org (Sysadmins need to finish reviewing the .py) and www.kubuntu.org [03:03] ryanakca: good idea [03:03] Anyways, I'm off to bed, G'night [03:03] I will do exactly that, and I am sure the css is probably already in place to make it look good, so I will wrap everything in that div, fix all of the links, and then put it up in bzr...sound good? [03:03] ryanakca: ^^ before you go [03:04] I will put it all under the kubuntu-website bzr stuff in a seperate branch [03:04] Sput: I don't think he over reacted, I just think he misread it and took me as being a bit serious [03:04] nobody was asking questions, and jcastro asked for questions, so being a wise ass like always, I gave him a question [03:05] didn't think it would go through to be honest because I figured everyone saw the joke in it, but I guess I was wrong [03:05] now I think many others who witnessed it, they over reacted, which really annoyed and irritated me [03:05] vorian: stasks already looks pretty karmic to me, am I missing something? [03:05] no [03:06] nixternal: "ever", not "over" [03:06] :) [03:06] i was looking at three plasmoids [03:06] JontheEchidna: you'll need to do the honours ;) [03:06] Oh, I've been doing that a lot with bugs lately [03:06] too many tabs open [03:06] then I get confused [03:06] nixternal: just wondering if he's read your apology and/or understood what you were going for [03:07] well by a lot I mean twice this week [03:07] he had no other choice, as I messaged him right away letting him know I wasn't being serious and did it for fun [03:07] JontheEchidna: i know the feeling [03:07] why people didn't see the "song" and "poem" as a joke and took it serious is beyond me [03:07] I guess they all had that "omg it is sabdfl" look in their eyes [03:07] lol [03:07] what in the world happened? [03:08] visternal off-handedly asked why kubuntu was the blue-headed stepchild [03:08] ah [03:08] good ol' mark replied jokingly in a poem [03:08] next thing you know people are blogging [03:08] yes, i read that [03:09] I've even saw the blog in digg's upcoming queue (probably won't get frontpaged, but damn) [03:09] well boredandblogging did the blog post because he saw the humor and knew I was joking [03:09] anything less than spending 10's of millions of dollars a year is unacceptable [03:09] lol [03:09] total lack of support [03:10] neversfelde: stasks uploaded (first try too, awesome!), thanks for your contribution to kubuntu [03:10] well, it probably hit a nerve though. [03:10] do we have a composite dock yet? [03:11] * vorian takes the silence as a resounding "no" [03:12] ok, so you forward the acceptance email to ubuntu-motu, correct? [03:12] yus [03:12] kk [03:14] JontheEchidna: Yes. [03:16] vorian: whatever happened to that qaculate dude? [03:16] no idea [03:17] :( [03:19] * Sput wonders why he's reading Planet Ubuntu and Planet Gnome [03:20] nixternal: sure, I'll look at it tomorrow [03:20] groovy, thanks dude === imbrando_ is now known as imbrandon [03:34] JontheEchidna: fixed [03:35] lex79: groovy [03:36] JontheEchidna: uhmmm groovy? what does it mean? :) [03:37] great! awesome! (It's a term from like the 1960's, lol) [03:38] And early 70's [03:38] * ScottK remembers [03:38] eheheh ok I understand :) === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [04:09] JontheEchidna: do you know alternative for lastfm? [04:13] nope, I haven't really looked [04:16] in Italy now 3 euros per month [04:16] bleh [04:16] :( [04:18] * JontheEchidna should probably get on to bed [04:18] night :) === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [06:16] ugh [06:16] * imbrandon kicks amarok 2 [06:31] ryanakca: I have gone ahead and edited all of the docs to prepare them for h.k.o - I left the headers in tact for now, but I can clean them up as needed or you can... lp:kubuntu-website under my branch is where you will find them [06:32] * nixternal kicks imbrandon [06:35] 00:34:04 [ zz] whats the little envelope thingy in jaunty for gnome [06:35] 00:34:14 [ zz] it holds all the notifications [06:35] 00:34:24 [ zz] i removed that but don't see it under the add to panel [06:35] notfications for the win! [07:03] * imbrandon kicks nixternal back [07:07] nixternal: wth you kickin me for , lol [07:08] cuz you kicked amarok [07:08] ahh i was trying to get the kde3 and kde4 ones to play nice on my dad's pc, he hates change and i upgraded him to jaunty while i was there today [07:08] lol [07:09] he hates obama I bet then [07:09] he was kinda urked with the amarok1.4 -> amarok2 "upgrade" [07:09] nah, he voted for obama as did i [07:09] :) [07:12] suckahs! [07:13] I know chicago politicians, and I will never vote for one :) [07:13] probably because I couldn't afford to pay-to-play [07:13] lol [07:14] though Riddell was interested in paying for that senate state [07:14] hahaha [07:14] Illinois is already a blue state, but he would have made it a bloo state [07:14] gah, wth happened to my grub [07:15] * imbrandon kicks efi [07:15] damn thing wants to go right into osx [07:35] imbrandon: its all your fault! [07:35] ? [07:35] heh [07:48] imbrandon: just because. Havent seen you in ages and decided insulting you was a good first, Hi! :D [07:48] lol, hi [07:49] well then.. home dir is backed up, time to reinstall this sucker. === blizzzek is now known as blizzz [08:52] oh dear [08:52] my mom can write better release news than the kaffeine doods [08:53] lol [08:54] I am surprised that they decided to continue working on Kaffeine [08:54] I have missed it [08:55] * apachelogger would be intersted if the GUI design is still so crappy [08:55] with an all new maintainer and all one would expect improvement [08:55] have you built it yet? [08:55] no [08:55] just saw the news on a german tech site [08:56] * apachelogger is trying to get a readahead for KDE :D [08:56] apachelogger: GUI is the same [08:56] meh :| [08:57] maybe I should write bug reports :) [08:57] apachelogger: christoph isn't really the new maintainer. he's maintaining it since years, just announced now [08:57] kaffeine would be an awesome app if the GUI was any better [08:57] fabo: oh, I see :) [09:04] whois twaugh === sabdfl1 is now known as sabdfl [09:09] JontheEchidna: Thank you :) Will create a backport request. [09:09] <_r1_> o [09:15] how to create a magic readahead list for kde: a) install from default cdimage b) remove all non-essential components from /usr/share/autostart and /etc/xdg/autostart (that is to ensure a sensible list even at very minimal setup) c) ensure session management is off d) logout e) switch to ttyX and run sudo readahead-watch -o $SOMEFILEPATH e) switch back to kdm f) login g) switch to ttyX and run sudo killall readahead-watch h) str [09:15] -dependent files from the readahead list [09:16] eventually it makes sense to content-diff the default lists with the kde one, since the latter will include all base utils used while login (although they are most likely already present in one of the other 2 lists) [09:17] that can probably be deployed along plasma [09:25] neversfelde: did you find a minion yet? [09:26] haha, it is raining, I can't go outside to search one^^ [09:27] apachelogger: were you the one thinking of kubufox? [09:27] I was looking at the package and the source, and it wouldn't be much work to turn it into a kubufox really [09:27] tonio was, at least he is working on mimetype support [09:27] there is no artwork in it, but that doesn't mean we couldn't add something [09:27] hm [09:28] nixternal: what would kubufox be doing? [09:28] I created a quick draft of what a Kubuntu start page would look like as well [09:28] http://www.nixternal.com/kubuntu/start_page/ [09:29] I like, well, the concept at least :D [09:29] apachelogger: well, there are some things that ubufox does to make it *ubuntu* only...we could add some Kubuntu and/or KDE stuff in it, ie some of the user scripts and what not for drop down menus and such...don't see why we couldn't add an oxygen theme to it either [09:29] * apachelogger thinks that our apps drain disc rotation from KDE's startup process [09:29] ya, the first one was just that, a concept to work with [09:29] I like the sound of that [09:30] heh, speak of the devil :) [09:30] oh dear, jockey got no autostart delay at all [09:30] nixternal: you need to change the search entry point to blue [09:30] * apachelogger runs around screaming [09:30] hrmm, 03:30, I am supposed to go for a nice 85 mile bike ride in 4 hours [09:30] might have to postpone that [09:31] davmor21: yup [09:31] I did that concept in about 5 minutes, so it is far from perfect [09:31] just v0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 :) === davmor21 is now known as davmor2 [09:31] hm [09:31] to be honest, I would like to make it look like a plasmoid [09:31] well [09:32] it could be a plasmoid ;-) [09:32] make it more "KDE 4" like [09:32] if that mozilla plugins tuff would be somewhat progressing [09:32] so [09:32] ahhhh, good point [09:32] jockey needs to autostart in phase 2 [09:32] so does update-notifier [09:32] but that hasn't gone anywhere...like you can do with konqi right? [09:32] as well as printer-applet [09:33] I was reading up on the people complaining about the updater in Ubuntu....some angry people, and at first I was like "ya, that doesn't make sense" [09:33] nixternal: well, it would be easier to make konqui honor plasma's theme in a startpage than firefox [09:33] then I was talking to ScottK and said "it pops up behind stuff I don't know its there until I close everything out and start to shutdown" [09:33] then after about an hour, I was like "damn, that is exactly when I do my updates" [09:34] and the interesting part is you have like 200 people complain, and then thousands of others going "ya, that is cool, I had no idea what that orange thing up top was" [09:35] no understanding here [09:35] * apachelogger tunes in röyksopp [09:35] and we do need to unclutterfy the task manager/panel/start bar/whatever it is called [09:36] like kwallet, do I really need that badboy showing all of the time? or klipper? [09:36] KDE is working on that [09:36] IMHO kwallet tray can be deactivated completely [09:36] grr, xorg is killing me [09:36] the target audience will not really have more than one wallet and for sure not manage them [09:37] right, I have multiple wallets, but I only need to set them up 1 time [09:37] after that if I need to do anything, it is in system settings [09:38] heh...say I did accidentally leave my desktop open for someone to come up and look at...they see that wallet with a credit card sticking out, that will be the first thing they click on...and all of my passwords are right there, in plain text view...which I do not like one bit [09:38] ~np [09:38] apachelogger is listening to "What Else Is There" by Röyksopp [The Understanding CD]; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more [09:38] * apachelogger hugs markey [09:40] * nixternal thinks that the Kubuntu team needs 2 people, community members, both with opposing views of the Notification stuff, to work with the Ayatana team [09:41] would be great if we got this stuff worked out ASAP === dpm_ is now known as dpm === vital_ is now known as vital [10:20] Riddell: ping [10:20] hi apachelogger [10:21] Riddell: what do you think about moving the printer-applet's autostart to autostart phase 2 (i.e. post session restoring)? [10:21] I for one would rather have my session back than having a printer icon show, considering I probably won't get to print something before phase 2 is finished anyway :) [10:22] apachelogger: seems a good idea [10:23] you can commit it to svn [10:23] ok, thx [10:30] kde svn 961529 [10:30] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=961529&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 961529 | Autostart in phase 2 (i.e. after session restoring), see kdelibs/kinit/README.autostart for reference. CCMAIL: jriddell@ubunt... [10:43] JontheEchidna: bug 258612 [10:43] Launchpad bug 258612 in kdeutils "Kwallet: unselecting "show manager in system tray" does not remove the system tray icon." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/258612 [10:52] hum [10:52] it appears to me you broke superkarmba with a faulty merge [10:52] oh dear [11:07] apachelogger: Alejandro said he will look into the libgpod issue [11:08] okies, thx [11:09] JontheEchidna, Riddell: bug 206459 if one of you could please take a look at it [11:09] Launchpad bug 206459 in kdeutils "print status doesn't update automatically" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206459 [11:13] nixternal: I've seen no evidence that the "thousands of others going "ya, that is cool, I had no idea what that orange thing up top was" people actually exist. [11:14] In the comments on the new notifications you see a mix of like it/sucks reactions. For the update-notifier change the reaction that I've seen has been decidedly unmixed. [11:19] vorian: how can bug 22175 be in progress when there is no lirc in kde 4? [11:19] Launchpad bug 22175 in kdeutils "Simple bug in kcm_kcmlirc + patch (hang after Add action click)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22175 === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [11:46] bug 62166 [11:46] Launchpad bug 62166 in wifi-radar "Kubuntu wifi-radar menu" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62166 [11:48] Riddell: is hwdb-client still used actually? [11:55] apachelogger: there was a rewrite of the gtk one which gets used as part of the certification stuff [11:55] forget what it's called now [11:59] Riddell: I was just wondering because there are some pretty old bugs around and at least we don't seem to use it a lot ;-) [12:02] apachelogger: I think you can close the bugs now [12:03] Riddell: then we should drop the package I suppose :) [12:03] otherwise the reports might want to kill me [12:03] JontheEchidna: do you really want to keep bug 113789 around? [12:03] Launchpad bug 113789 in kdeaddons "servicemenue convert images has problems with dots in pathnames" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/113789 [12:04] apachelogger: it's not been in since hardy [12:04] ah [12:04] okies :) === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ [12:52] no sign of 4.2.3 yet [12:54] fabo: so it seems to be easy enough to move phonon to build from qt and have the phonon package just compile the backends [12:55] they get installed to /usr/lib/kde4/plugins though so I don't know if that should be /usr/lib/qt4/plugins [12:55] but the main problem is package versioning, phonon has an epoch, qt doesn't [12:55] we could just add phonon to libqtcore4 [12:56] otherwise come up with a new package name like libphonon-qt4 libphonon-qt-dev [12:56] (or add an epoch to qt but that's not pretty) [12:57] oh and qt seems to install the headers into both /usr/include/qt4/phonon and /usr/include/qt4/Qt which is a bit strange === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [13:05] can't add to libqtcore4, it depends on lots of core things [13:05] lots of non-core things rather [13:06] maybe call it libqt4-phonon [13:06] that sounds good === olujicz_ is now known as olujicz === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [13:15] Riddell: I'm not sure what we want to do, but I'm sure add an epoch where Debian hasn't isn't it. [13:16] apachelogger: I actually fixed the wifi-radar thing in Karmic already. [13:17] ScottK: yep, I just mention it for completeness [13:19] apachelogger: haha, i did that a year and a half ago [13:19] whoopsie [13:19] * apachelogger hands ScottK a cookie [13:20] vorian: hehe [13:20] * ScottK is in favor of cookies. Thanks. [13:20] JontheEchidna: you go read backlog :P [13:20] shtylman: did you have additions for KubuntuKarmicSpecs ? [13:20] I just remembered another one ... [13:21] Riddell: have you commited these changes (phonon) ? [13:22] fabo: nope just playing around locally [13:22] fabo: want to get agreement with you before committing anything [13:23] hmm, no good meeting time until next wednesday [13:24] ok. I'll take a look deeper to phonon tomorrow before confirming [13:25] fabo: for phonon I just commented out #add_subdirectory(phonon) in CMakeLists.txt and it comiles fine against the phonon installed from qt [13:26] and for qt I just copied over the libphonon4 libphonon-dev entries in debian/control and adjusted the .install files [13:27] * JontheEchidna remebered another spec point too === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu [13:53] good day, all you beautiful blue-haired folks! [13:54] * claydoh carries in tray of coffee, tea, diet soda, and large cookies [13:55] * claydoh pours cups for everyone [14:03] lex79: I almost forgot, you need to file a removal request for the old windowslist plasmoid [14:05] lex79: you can use bug 301083 as an example [14:05] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/301083/+text) [14:08] <|eagles051387|> afternoon JontheEchidna === |eagles051387| is now known as eagles0513875 [14:25] any consensus on the next meeting? [14:27] seele: I think wednesday looks like the winner [14:27] which is a while off alas === ejat is now known as e-jat [14:40] Riddell: what time? (lost the link) [14:42] woohooo \o/ diagramming [14:42] * apachelogger luvs the graphics [14:43] claydoh: hullos, are you our new bar tender? [14:44] apachelogger: sure, as long as y'all tip :) [14:44] * apachelogger takes one of the large cookies claydoh brought in and throws it after JontheEchidna hoping he read backlog and went through all the bugs apachelogger referenced to [14:44] claydoh: hm... kubotu ain't need no tip... [14:45] apachelogger: but i may be better looking [14:45] seele: http://www.doodle.com/3hvuw76ydubbgseg [14:46] seele: tuesday 17:00UTC? [14:46] JontheEchidna: launchpad bug 369827 === rickspencer3 is now known as rickspencer3-afk [14:46] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/369827/+text) [14:46] or wed at 17:00 [14:48] claydoh: well, Riddell got that theory about Kubuntu contributors being incredibly good looking [14:48] then again nixternal makes me doubt that theory [14:48] Riddell: How about 18:00? I'm working 22:00 - 10:00 next week and I'd like a chance to get some sleep. [14:48] although Nightrose proofs it a lot [14:48] lol [14:48] I sure don't [14:49] * ScottK stick up his hand for bringing down the average. [14:49] maybe back in the old days, i was ok, but not now [14:49] Riddell: wednesday has more people [14:49] ScottK: you officially have no face because you are lacking a launchpad pic .... that is like not having karma [14:49] ScottK: what is that, 14:00 EST? [14:49] Yes [14:49] * seele counts on her fingers [14:50] why can't we just keep the same time all year round [14:50] Yes, I'm working 6PM to 4AM local. [14:50] ew [14:50] apachelogger: I don't have my pic there either [14:50] seele: people's schedules change too much for that IMHO [14:50] claydoh: oh, I thought you had one? [14:50] apachelogger: no, i mean calendar time.. no daylight savings [14:50] apachelogger: so no matter when it is i am always -n:00 UTC [14:51] * apachelogger hates the daylight saving and actually thinks everyone should just live by UTC anyway [14:51] seele: Because it theoretically saves 0.0000001% of energy and so since you don't like it you must be in favor of global warming. [14:51] * seele waits for someone to start an a/s/l thread on the dev mailing list [14:52] ScottK: and i'm a rebulican bible thumper who buys american and only eats fast food [14:52] ScottK: spam clearly consumes more engery than we can save by daylight saving :P [14:52] so Wed at 18:00UTC? [14:52] o/ [14:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAiDxV_xQPU [14:53] going once [14:53] twice [14:53] done! [14:53] \o/ [14:53] hmm, random youtube link with no context, could be dangerous [14:54] context is in backlog :P [14:54] lol [14:54] Riddell: you work from home which mitigates the risk [14:54] claydoh \o/ [14:54] apachelogger: broke it :p [14:55] claydoh: was that your contribution to the 0.0000001% energy saving? [14:55] ya, uplugged the laptop from my laptop cooler, and it died [14:56] seele: I have flatmates, they could burst in at any moment! [14:56] think the power plug and voltage regulator are going [14:56] * seele says a few things about your flatmates... [14:56] *cough* [14:56] apachelogger: more than that I am drying my clothes outdoors now :)\ [14:57] dingdong [14:57] * eagles0513875 waits for seele to get he boot :p [14:57] * apachelogger turns on tv to check who's at the door [14:57] uh [14:58] claydoh: you have cloths to dry? Oo [14:58] like what do you do to them that they have to be dried? [14:59] I am the househusband === rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [15:00] wet clothes = one ticked off wife [15:00] pplus I like dry scratchy towels [15:00] sounds sensible [15:00] I suppose [15:01] so [15:01] claydoh: you probably want to find out how we get kde.qa.ubuntu.com, don't you? [15:02] um, ah, sure? [15:02] claydoh: good luck with it [15:02] what's that about? [15:02] could be useful for SRU testing [15:02] * claydoh has no idea yet [15:02] or any kind of testing [15:02] taking the nm plasmoid as current usecase :) [15:04] mcas: ping ping ping [15:04] good idea [15:05] claydoh: I'd suggest to get in touch with someone from ubuntu testing/qa [15:05] bbiab, need to get groceries [15:05] apachelogger: kk [15:05] not much luck when I tried yesterday [15:05] then again I did try at the most awful time of day [15:06] apachelogger: need some testing of the nm widget [15:07] I'd rather get proper testcases and some test tracker before [15:07] eagles0513875: you could however prepare testcases [15:07] http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/ [15:07] apachelogger: well one thing that i know that doesnt work is static ip's still [15:08] tried it the other day and it seems to ignore the static ip i set and reverted to using dhcp [15:08] I am more interested in regressions, since those have to be fixed before pushing it to either -backports or -updates [15:08] that is why we need testcases [15:08] apachelogger: i might not be the person to do that since i dont know what im looking for [15:10] sebas: btw, is it intent behaviour that the plasmoid tries to connect to wifi even if cable connection is available (that is with autoconnect turned on) ... I found it kind of weird that the plasmoid annoyed me with kwallet access right after login, even though I was cabled [15:10] eagles0513875: okies, gotta find someone else then :D [15:10] apachelogger: We need to understand if the "it works for some, but not others" problems are connecting to different types of networks or hardware specific. [15:10] apachelogger: ill keep upstreaming bugs :) [15:11] If it's hardware specific, I think we're kind of screwed for an SRU. [15:11] ScottK: it should become easier if we get coordinated testing through the testing tracker [15:11] apachelogger: I agree. [15:11] it also could revive the testing community for that matter :D [15:12] lex79: usually the MOTU giving the ack subscribes the archive admins, but it should be ok as long as I've given the ack :) [15:12] apachelogger: what happens with the nm when its on a desktop that has a wired connection only is the same issue you mentioned bout being wired does it still want you to open the kwallet [15:12] no [15:13] it only wants kwally to authenticate for $wifi [15:13] * JontheEchidna steps out for a bit [15:13] It wants it even if no authentication is needed, which I find annoying [15:13] JontheEchidna: you should be reading bug reports :P [15:13] ScottK: uh, that is fun :) [15:14] davmor2: pingy [15:14] apachelogger: ScottK at least the build that a|wen did fixed it to where it doesnt ask for password again after opening the wallet [15:14] apachelogger: whatcha want [15:14] apachelogger: I did, but I don't know what to do with half of 'em [15:15] davmor2: wanna come up with some fancy testcases for the network manager plasmoid? ;-) [15:15] JontheEchidna: so we agree on that I suppose? :) [15:15] stupid bugs [15:15] heh [15:15] apachelogger: Can do but not till after uds where we will be discussing the testcases in detail :) If it can wait that long [15:16] probably not [15:16] davmor2: depends on when we get kde.qa.ubuntu.com ... that said ... do you have an idea whom we have to poke for that? [15:17] ScottK: this what you talking about [15:17] apachelogger: We could also do it with a wiki in the meantime. Something like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Clamav [15:17] not till after uds as that is maybe being all shook up too :) [15:17] ScottK: bug 349445 [15:17] Launchpad bug 349445 in plasma-widget-network-manager "[jaunty] sometimes network manager asks for a WPA-Key although it is stored in KDE wallet" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/349445 [15:18] eagles0513875: No. My issue is it wants the wallet when connecting to unsecured networks. [15:18] davmor2: pff :P ... ScottK knows how to make an apachelogger happy [15:18] ScottK: gotcha [15:21] davmor2: when is uds? [15:23] nvm :P === Tscheesy_ is now known as Tscheesy [15:26] ScottK: regarding your issue issue of a static ip wouldnt it be easier to file an upstream bug for those [15:26] I'm pretty sure I didn't say anything about a static IP. [15:26] ScottK: thats my issue i was testing something the other day with static ip and the network manager ignores the ip i put in entierly and uses dhcp none the less [15:26] eagles0513875: Then I'm really confused why you referred to it as 'my issue'. [15:26] this is kind of a regression from knetwork manager at least with that you could get it to use a static ip [15:26] no you couldn't [15:26] ScottK: i was referring to your issue as in wallet and unsecured networks [15:26] at least not with the one from 8.10 [15:26] ScottK: apologies i worded that wrong [15:27] and I am pretty sure the one from 8.04 didn't have that capability at all [15:27] apachelogger: you could but would loose static ip settings upon reboot [15:27] now that worked pretty well then -.- [15:27] Not terribly static then [15:27] ya and now its seems to have regressed to where the static ip gets ignored entierly [15:28] eagles0513875: I think you address specific people far to often in the channel. I'm personally getting tired of the distraction. [15:28] * eagles0513875 goes back to bug upstreaming [15:28] eagles0513875: I'd ask you not to highlight me unless it's in response to a question I've asked you specifically (and not just to the channel in general). [15:28] i understand [16:02] apachelogger: ping [16:02] apachelogger: we have a patch kubuntu_11_fix_openwithdialog.diff which you added [16:02] aye [16:02] vorian: removed it according to the changelog [16:02] but it's still there [16:03] that is weird, maybe vorian didn't really remove it? [16:03] maybe he forgot to bzr remove of something and it reappeared [16:03] so question is do we want it? I presume not [16:04] hrm [16:04] stupid bzr [16:04] Riddell: I think upstream already implemented the better solution which is why vorian dropped the patch [16:04] vorian: it's all solved upstream and I should remove it now? [16:04] yes [16:04] I'll drop it then [16:14] anyone packaged up qt 4.5.1 in a ppa yet? [16:14] have all the kde4libs stuff upstreamed [16:14] someone was doing a merge on that last night not sure if it has been packaged [16:16] shtylman: me and JontheEchidna are merging it [16:17] Riddell: cool :) [16:17] going to agree the phonon build stuff with fabo before uploading [16:18] Riddell: knetwork and kde4libs bugs so far have been upstreamed [16:19] eagles0513875: gosh, all of them? [16:20] rickspencer3: just on https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+upstreamreport [16:20] rickspencer3: miss type [16:20] Riddell: on that site [16:35] Just out of curiousity I used grab-merge and got the kde4libs merge. My eyes hurt. [16:35] Hi [16:35] I think we may need to merge more than once this cycle. [16:36] just wondering since there might be browser change for karmic how about adding the Firefox Qt4 port to the list ? [16:36]