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wirechiefCalabero ok this works. can you do pastebinit?  and if so paste the results of  sudo fdisk - >fdisk.txt   where fdisk.txt will hold the information, paste the url here00:01
geniiwirechief: I think you want them more to do something like: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit00:02
wirechiefgenii ok i didnt try that00:03
geniiCalabero: Actually, you are booted to livecd or so? Or the affected box is right now not usable entirely?00:03
Calaberowell it just magically booted up o_000:04
Calaberoas you said that...00:04
Calaberohaha that was creepy00:04
luis_mefisto i did all what the page u gave says but still not working00:04
Calaberoim looking at a desktop so uh....thanks... i guess....your voodoo knows no bounds :P00:04
wirechiefCalabero well you can still do the sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit and paste the url here if you want practice00:05
geniiwirechief: Heh00:05
luis_and after running xsane it goes off and also turn off my scan00:05
* wirechief likes pastebinit00:05
luis_any ide on how to fix both things pls ??00:05
krisHi. Is there a way to submit ideas for updating ubottu's brain?00:06
krisFor example, the link provided in "!intelhda" should be updated to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post658981000:06
wirechiefkris maybe talk nice to the channel operator00:07
kriswirechief: Ok. Thanks. Unfortunately, there's no channel op at the moment.00:08
krisHmm. I remember seeing a link to a webpage that had ubottu's database all listed out ...00:08
wirechiefkris i dont know, sometimes genii is but not sure ;)00:08
wirechief!index00:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about index00:09
Dragnslcr!help00:09
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots00:09
rmrfslash!love00:09
ubottuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.00:09
geniiApologies on lag, I'm back and forth from the computer00:10
krisGoing to ask in #ubottu-ops00:10
krisrmrfslash: Hehehe.00:10
LjLkris: no such channel. there is #Ubuntu-ops and #Ubuntu-bots00:10
krisLjL: There it is.00:10
krisThanks.00:10
LjLkris: but see !help00:10
geniikris: You can suggest changes to the factoids by going into pm with the bot and tghen telling it something like: factoid-name is suggested-description-goes-here00:11
luis_nop00:11
luis_wont work mefisto00:11
luis_and again it turn off my scan00:11
geniiluis_: Still no joy with that scanner, eh?00:11
rmrfslash!botsnack00:11
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!00:11
luis_no00:11
luis_genii00:12
luis_i am getting desperate00:12
luis_i need to use it00:12
krisHere we go, syntax to update is: "!no, <factoid> is <fact>"00:12
geniiluis_: After you made the .deb file, you installed it with something like:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb         ?00:12
luis_i did follow what mefisto gave me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 stepr by step00:12
luis_but nothing00:12
luis_i dont know let mee check00:13
geniikris:  If you are going to suggest factoid changes please don't do it in main support channel00:13
luis_yes00:13
krisOk. I apologize.00:13
luis_i did that genii for sure00:14
luis_i might made something wrong00:14
luis_but i know i did follow the steps  by00:14
luis_everythin runs fine till the parte where the editing00:14
luis_cause everytime i do so soemthing happens and appear a text box saying some about crash00:15
luis_should i get erase everything and start over again?00:17
geniiluis_: OK. Install packages: sane-utils and libsane-extras        Then fom commandline try: scanimage -L    and put result in pastebin website00:17
luis_ok00:17
geniiluis_: Also tell if the device /dev/loop0 exists00:18
luis_ok00:19
luis_then i do type /dev/loop000:19
geniiluis_: No00:19
geniiluis_: Do:    ls /dev/loop*            and then if no result, it doesn't exist. Otherwise it lists something00:20
luis_first appears a big rectangle saying libsane-extras 1.0.19.11ubuntu2 failed to install or upgrade00:20
geniiluis_: Ah, that could be informative00:20
geniiluis_: Does it give a reason why?00:21
luis_no00:21
luis_but in this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 says that i have to remove that in order to install the function00:21
geniiluis_: Did the other one install ok?00:22
luis_so i did00:22
geniiluis_: OK, I'll go read the howto you are following and get back to you00:22
luis_ok00:22
geniiluis_: Hmm, several areas there where it could go wrong. Converting the rpm to deb for instance keeps the redhat pathnames which do not work too great in ubuntu. What part did you get to in the instructions?00:24
luis_everything00:24
luis_i went all the way00:24
luis_do i remove everything and start over again?00:25
geniiluis_: Did it give any errors to you at any stage of the instructions? If so, what were they00:25
luis_i open dolphin and there are sveral iscan files in there00:25
luis_yes00:25
luis_ate the time of editing some crashes box appeared00:25
geniiluis_: Hm, does not sound good for success00:26
luis_no00:26
luis_ok how do i undo everything00:26
mefisto__genii: luis_ pastebin'ed this error with the alien command: http://pastebin.com/m4c06295200:26
luis_and start all over again?00:26
geniiluis_: Hangon a minute please00:27
luis_whate rror?00:27
luis_error'00:27
geniireading the error pastes...00:27
luis_ok00:27
mefisto__luis_: not error, but a warning00:27
luis_let me erase everything00:27
luis_and start all over00:27
luis_and let u knoe step by step whats going on00:28
mefisto__luis_: wait and see what genii has to say00:28
luis_ok00:28
geniiThe error just indicates that it was attempted earlier to install, and it made the dir at that time, so not over critical00:28
luis_yes00:29
luis_i have been trying to do it since this morning00:29
luis_and several pages give different info00:29
geniiluis_: Is your install on a 32bit or 64bit ? It states at start that 64bit does not work00:29
luis_i have been following differents how to's without any succes00:30
luis_32 bit00:30
raylui'm installing ubuntu (getting rid of kubuntu) :D00:30
rayluand since i need to reformat, i've decided to resize my / partition to 10GB00:30
wirechiefraylu how much can you get ?00:31
rayluhow much what?00:31
mefisto__raylu: might be quicker to delete the partition and create a new 10GB one00:31
wirechiefwhen you resize how big can you make it ?00:31
rizzo_using kubuntu 9.04, what can i use to interface with my ipod, amarok doesn't support ipods anymore00:31
compilerwriterHow does one get plasma to refresh the entire desktop?00:32
raylumefisto__: that's what i'm doing00:32
rayluwirechief: as big as i want, i suppose00:32
raylu!ipod00:32
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geniiluis_: When you issue: sane-find-scanner  -v                       please pastebin results and give us the URL00:32
wirechiefraylu im getting crowded already with this /dev/sda5          /                11953.9   8498.5   2848.1  76%  ext300:33
geniiBattery is dying. AFK finding charger00:33
* wirechief wishs he had at least 15gb00:33
luis_ok00:33
rayluwirechief: oh, i have / and /home separate00:34
luis_genii here: http://pastebin.com/m676204bf00:34
rayluanyway, how do i reorder partition numbers?00:34
wirechiefraylu: ok sounds like your good to go.00:34
luis_its at te end genii00:35
geniiBack00:35
geniiluis_: OK, reading00:35
geniiluis_: Line 84 of your paste shows me it sees the scanner, but that it does not know by it's vendor and device codes what to use to understand the scanner. This indicates that the changes you made from the tutorial where you edit the udev rules did not take, or had typos, or some other issue relating to that00:37
luis_right00:38
luis_exactly00:38
luis_well i think00:38
luis_so i go to the first editing parte and paste bin to u so u can c it?00:38
geniiluis_: Did you yet reboot after editing the udev part?00:39
luis_yes00:39
luis_several times00:39
geniiOK00:39
mefisto__gene: first post on page 2 of the howto, someone says they changed that edit slightly (but not the same printer as luis_'s )00:39
geniiluis_: Yes, please pastebin the contents of the file which you edited (in the udev rules)00:39
luis_ok00:40
geniiluis_: According to the tutoial it was /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules00:40
luis_ok first with this command: kdesudo kate /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf, i got this: http://pastebin.com/m37a2b64200:42
geniiReading00:43
luis_i am paste bin al of the editing parts00:43
luis_thats the first one then ill go for the next one00:43
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geniiluis_: Does result of command:  lsmod | grep scanner                  say that this module is loaded? Or just returns to prompt?00:44
luis_this is what i got:00:46
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$  lsmod | grep00:46
luis_Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...00:46
luis_Try `grep --help' for more information.00:46
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$00:46
luis_now with the second command kdesudo kate /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, i got this: http://pastebin.com/m1bf918800:46
ralmarHey guys, if I install kubuntu-desktop in synaptic, will i be able to choose if i want to load gnome or kde before i login? thanks00:47
mefisto__ralmar: yes, there is a menu in the login screen00:48
geniiluis_: The command is exactly:   lsmod | grep scanner                                             <-- note scanner in there :)00:48
geniiReading next pastebin00:48
mefisto__ralmar: the default is to login and load whatever the last login was00:48
rayluah. using fdisk manually i was able to get the partition numbers i wanted00:49
luis_now with the command kdesudo kate /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules, i did this: http://pastebin.com/m4752599b00:49
rayluand get rid of my extended partition since i only had 4 partitions total anyway00:49
geniiluis_: The sane.dll looks fine. Reading next pastebin00:49
luis_ok00:49
luis_let me do it00:50
holyguyverI have a question to something that you guys do not exactly support.00:50
luis_and finally correcting the last command u gave me: i got this:00:51
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$  lsmod | grep scanner00:51
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$00:51
holyguyverI installed the KDE3 repository for Intrepid, & then I installed Konqueror 3.5, but it did not create an entry in my gnome menu & I do not know the CLI name to activate kde3.5 Konqueror00:51
rayluholyguyver: try: which konqueror00:52
rayluholyguyver: also, update-alternatives -l konqueror00:52
holyguyverraylu, update-alternatives: unknown argument `-l'00:52
rayluoh, sorry. --list00:53
geniiluis_: OK, the "scanner" module is not loaded. Do command:  modprobe -l | grep scanner                                   and then if a lot of results, pastebin, if only one line, ere is ok to show the result00:53
holyguyverraylu, which konqueror gave me /usr/bin/konqueror which activated konqueror kde4 not konqueror kde3.500:53
ign0ramushey all.00:54
luis_ok00:54
ign0ramusi'm sure this has been discussed to death, but is there a fix for choppy flash video in Jaunty?00:54
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$  modprobe -l | grep scanner00:54
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$00:54
tsimpsonholyguyver: konqueror-kde300:54
holyguyvertsimpson, bash: konqueror-kde3: command not found00:55
holyguyverYet it is installed00:55
tsimpsonah00:55
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luis_so thats the problem, no module loaded so how can i do that genii?00:55
tsimpsonit's actually /opt/kde3/bin/konqueror00:55
rayluholyguyver: and the other?00:55
geniiHm, no "scanner" module00:55
luis_would that be the only big problem?00:55
rayluluis_: does your scanner show up in lspci/lsusb?00:56
luis_lets c00:56
holyguyvertsimpson, Thank you :D00:56
geniiraylu: sane-find-scanner     sees his scanner but has some odd language error00:56
luis_genii i got his:00:56
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$ lspci/lsusb00:56
luis_bash: lspci/lsusb: No such file or directory00:56
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$00:56
luis_sorry about that genii00:57
luis_let me paste bin00:57
geniiraylu: eg: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [Language Error], product=0x083f [Language Error]) at libusb:003:00700:57
rayluluis_: um... those are two different commands00:57
luis_i notice sorry00:58
luis_first command: http://pastebin.com/m225678cc00:58
luis_second command: http://pastebin.com/m67caf49f00:59
rayluis that it in the second paste?00:59
rayluhrm. lsusb doesn't show kernel modules; nevermind01:00
geniiraylu: s 003 Device 007: ID 04b8:083f Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus DX4450           is it01:00
luis_the scanner is there in he second command does appear althoug has a different model01:01
luis_since mine is cx560001:01
mr_clarkHi guys. Trying to help out a friend here. He's upgraded to 9.04. He wants to install the restricted format files for his Nvidia video card. However, he's behind a proxy and can't seem to get the system to recognize the proxy. What can he do to get around this?01:01
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luis_God what a hasle!!!!01:02
luis_sorry for this guys01:02
luis_i tought it was going to be easy01:02
luis_so what can i do to fix this?01:03
mr_clarkWhy doesn't kpackagekit not support proxies either? That's pretty lame.01:03
faileasmr_clark: use apt-get -s to find out what packages are needed, download it elsewhere and move it over with apt-on-cd?01:03
faileas*apt-get install -s01:03
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geniiluis_: Please pastebin result of: sudo scanimage -L01:04
luis_ok01:04
geniiluis_: The main raodblock is that Canon is not the greatest Linux supporters....01:04
genii*roadblock01:04
luis_but mine is not canon01:05
mr_clarkBut why wouldn't the apps support proxies? it's not like proxies are something new!01:05
luis_is epson stylus cx5600 and about the command u gave me says:01:06
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$ sudo scanimage -L01:06
luis_[sudo] password for luis:01:06
luis_Segmentation fault01:06
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$01:06
geniiGah, segmentation faults01:06
luis_it is a multifunctional, printing function works fine but scanning function01:06
mr_clarkWell, I'm outta here. I'll try helping my buddy out before he puts his fist through his screen.01:07
geniiluis_: I think we need to remove first all the iscan stuff and get the regular sane/scanimage stuff not to segfault and then go from there forward01:07
luis_ok01:08
ravenz#overall01:08
luis_so what do i type first?01:08
geniiluis_: Please pastebin result of: apt-cache policy iscan*01:08
luis_ok01:08
luis_genii: http://pastebin.com/m97c474c01:09
geniiReading01:09
geniiluis_: Your system is giving extremely weird errors01:10
luis_so what do i do?01:11
geniiluis_: Pastebin instead result of: apt-cache search iscan01:11
geniiI think the last errors were my fault, I don't recall if you can get policy of packagenames when you use wildcard like * ?    or so01:12
luis_genii: http://pastebin.com/m79c9326501:12
benjamin__i'm having some really wierd issues with mice since the 9.04 upgrade. I'm having issues with my mouse only intermittedly registering clicks01:13
geniiluis_: OK. So now to:   sudo apt-get remove --purge iscan-plugin-cx4400 iscan01:13
luis_ok done01:14
geniiluis_: OK. Now we will make sure the sane-utils is proper. So:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/sane-utils*01:15
geniiluis_: Then: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sane-utils01:15
luis_nothing01:16
luis_just prompt01:16
geniiluis_: Good, no news is good news. Only worry when errors01:16
luis_it says sane-utils is already the newest version01:17
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geniiluis_: Fine, then we do:   sudo apt-get remove --purge sane-utils && sudo apt-get install sane-utils                      This will clean it out, then need to re-download it in case original was corrupt and causing the segmentation fault. Then it should install it again new01:21
geniiluis_: Before that maybe do: sudo apt-get update           To get newest list01:21
luis_ook01:21
luis_doing it01:21
geniiBack shortly, require coffee01:22
luis_uuu ok01:22
geniiluis_: OK. Did it download and install it again?01:24
luis_working on it01:24
geniiOK01:24
luis_its done01:24
luis_i need to tell u something01:25
geniiluis_: I'm all ears01:25
* genii wiggles his huge ears01:25
luis_i have kubuntu jackalope because i did install kubuntu 8.04 and after updating the system told me that there was a new version01:26
luis_so i upgraded01:26
luis_but couldnt c anything01:26
luis_so somebody told me it was a nvidia drivers issue01:26
geniiluis_: The video drivers shouldn't be affecting anything to do with the scanning system01:27
luis_so i did the reinstalation and byt the time of the updatung i dismarked the nvidia upgrading and thats how i got to have jackalope01:27
luis_does this affect?01:27
luis_ok01:27
Cerrdorhow do I upgrade to 9.? from commandline01:27
CerrdorI already changed source.list to jaunty01:27
geniiluis_: OK, so once more issue the command:  sudo scanimage -L                           and then pastebin results01:27
clorofileshow to make a backup of my programs before install new distro01:28
Cerrdorcan I just do gksu "update-manager -c "?01:28
geniiCerrdor: Changing the sources.list and trying to upgrade that way will only lead to disaster01:29
luis_genii: http://pastebin.com/m5574bc0701:29
Cerrdorok then what do i do?01:30
geniiCerrdor: Revert the sources.list back to what you had. then if you are doing this from commandline see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)01:30
geniiluis_: Reading01:30
luis_ok01:30
geniiluis_: Good, we're not getting segfaults01:31
luis_ok01:31
luis_so we r getting closer right'01:31
luis_?01:31
geniiluis_: Hopefully :)01:31
luis_and also my scanner didnt turn off01:31
geniiluis_: Next pastebin results of:   sudo sane-find-scanner -v01:32
luis_genii: http://pastebin.com/m7bd590a101:33
geniiReading01:33
geniiluis_: Damn, same weird language error01:33
luis_ok01:34
luis_u know u r tired i am tired why dont we just continue tomorrw?01:34
luis_is that ok with u? can i c u tomorrow afternoon and continue with this?01:34
clorofilesyes01:35
geniiluis_: Good idea. I'm also getting frustrated with this particular scanner, etc01:35
luis_ok txs a lot genii i do really hope to c u tomorrow maybe this little rest will clear up mind01:35
luis_thank you very much c u tomorrow01:36
geniiluis_: The main thing is to keep plugging away01:36
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luis_ook01:36
luis_well c  tomorrow it maybe tomorrow work jst fine c u  txs01:36
luis_have a nice afternoon and nice rest01:37
clorofilessee u01:37
luis_that goes for all of u guys01:37
luis_bye01:37
geniiclorofiles: Applications get their files spread out all over so making backups of all the components of particular ones isn't all that simple01:37
clorofilesi keep my /home in other partition01:37
geniiclorofiles: One app might have it's binary in /usr/sbin  other sub-components in /usr/bin, it's config files in /etc and so on01:38
clorofilesthen, is better install again all apps01:39
geniiclorofiles: Yes, so long as your /home is on it's own area01:39
clorofilesbut, i keep the documents....01:41
clorofilesif i install using sudo apt-get install -f, can recovery some parts of programs?01:42
geniiclorofiles: Sometimes from a failed upgrade that may make the system usable again at least01:42
clorofilesthanxz genii01:45
batman#opennms01:45
batman#join opennms01:46
geniibatman: /join #opennms01:46
ign0ramusCurrent weather for  : Temperature: , Pressure: , Wind:01:48
JuJuBeeI just finished upgrading to Jaunty.  How to I get the network manager widget?  It is not in my list of widgets.01:48
ign0ramusJuJuBee: maybe "plasma-widget-network-manager" ?01:52
ign0ramusJuJuBee: using APT or appropriate frontend, i mena01:53
ign0ramus*mean01:53
flectorany Wine gurus?01:53
ign0ramusflector: more of a scotch guy :P01:54
geniiflector: You might find some in #winehq01:54
flectorbefore Wine, one stupid question: how to get terminal as SU?01:54
ign0ramusflector: sudo su ?01:54
p_quarlessudo -i01:54
benjamin__sudo bash01:54
p_quarlesbenjamin__, ign0ramus: no, sudo -i; those methods can mess things up01:54
flectortotally new to Jaunty, don't see a terminal option01:55
ign0ramusp_quarles: you win. you always do.01:55
kuruminconfiguration aMSN01:55
ign0ramusflector: Konsole01:55
flectortkx, adding01:56
ign0ramusp_quarles: heh... how do i de-elevate after using 'sudo -i'?01:56
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p_quarlesign0ramus: exit01:56
ign0ramusp_quarles: hence my nick.  thanks.01:56
rgarciahi all...Does anybody know any program to unlock encrypted DVD and than copy?01:57
ign0ramusrgarcia: I'm not sure if that's a supported question, but do you have libdvdcss2 installed?01:58
flectorthe Wine question... a lot of Windoze apps are doing ShellExecute's to .html files, which fail01:59
rgarciai guess not01:59
flectorin Konsole, wine index.html (which exists) also fails02:00
sral9999World of warcraft - wine: My char  is doing this jittery gliding thing when i move forward with the keyboard. I can stop it by moving to the side or starting movement with the mouse, but it seems like wow/wine dont like me to hold the "w" key down02:00
ralmarHey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic in regular 9.04 ubuntu. but when i try to log in with my main user I get an error saying that my session lasted less than 10 seconds... and I can only log in with gnome on my main user. though I can use kde with another user. How can i fix this or see an error log? Thanks.02:00
flectorhow do you regedit or whatever to direct Wine to launch .html files in a particular browser?02:00
rgarciahow do I install it??02:00
ign0ramusralmar: http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-9042.html02:02
ralmarign0ramus, sorry but i didnt ask anything related to that02:02
ign0ramuswoops, wrong line...02:03
ign0ramusflector: http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-9042.html02:03
ralmarWhat I said was: Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic in regular 9.04 ubuntu. but when i try to log in with my main user I get an error saying that my session lasted less than 10 seconds... and I can only log in with gnome on my main user. though I can use kde with another user. How can i fix this or see an error log? Thanks.02:03
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flectorlooks good02:04
rgarciaihn)ramus: how do i install libdvdcss2?02:04
geniiflector: Ask questions regarding Wine in the channel #winehq  please.02:07
rgarciaanybody???02:08
flectorworked absolutely perfectly, thank you (had to add the section though)02:08
geniirgarcia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu will give you instructions on how to add medibuntu and install the libdvdcss and so forth02:08
rgarciathanks a lot!!02:11
ralmarAny help?02:11
rgarciaafter installing the libdvdcss2, i can use the k3b to burn a dvd?02:12
geniirgarcia: Possibly. Some of them now however have even newer encryption02:14
rgarciamm...but it's okay...k3b can now read the dvd and than copy02:14
rgarciathanxxx02:14
rgarciaanother question, is there any program in linux which has the same function of dvdShrink on windows...02:16
flectorwhy not just run it with Wine?02:16
rgarciabecause the DVD is double layer, and i don't have one...i need to compress it tio burn on 4.7gb dvd02:16
rgarciabut flector, wine can run perfect?02:17
flectordunno, haven't tried it yet, should work02:17
genii!info dvd9502:17
ubottudvd95 (source: dvd95): DVD9 to DVD5 converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4p0-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 276 kB, installed size 764 kB02:17
geniirgarcia: See bot's note on a dvd shrinker above02:18
rgarciayes..i saw...thanxxx02:18
geniiflector: Running windows applications in Wine to do something linux can already do natively is a waste02:19
flectorthis is true (linux newb here)02:19
flectorliking Jaunty quite a bit better than OpenSuse so far, for what that's worth02:20
geniiWine also fails miserably on many applications02:20
btcreelI tried Opensuse, and the installer ate my MBR.02:21
jimmy51_homehello.  i just put a nvidia pci video card in my wife's machine (it has integrated intel gma 950) but get a kernel crash on boot.  how can i get it to reconfigure video?02:21
jimmy51_homei'm assuming i need to boot to a non X session and run a dpkg -Xserver-Xorg --reconfigure02:22
jimmy51_homeor something02:22
flectorhow do yoou expand the taskbar in Jaunty to two rows?  it's kind of crowded02:22
jimmy51_homeflector:  panel settings02:23
jimmy51_homeright click on the panel, hit panel settings02:23
jimmy51_homethen there's a "height" button towards the middle of the panel02:23
jimmy51_homeclick the height button02:23
jimmy51_homeadjust height and click again02:23
geniijimmy51_home: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                           usually02:23
geniiMaybe xorg-xserver        I forget which02:23
flectorthat just made the task fonts bigger02:23
jimmy51_homegenii: thanks.  what do i edit in the boot menu (grub) to make it boot without X?02:24
geniijimmy51_home: Don't bother, just use the Single-user (recovery or such it's called)02:24
Evereadyjimmy51_home:  did you switch  the BIOS to PCI instead of the integrated?02:24
jimmy51_homeEveready: i sure did.02:25
jimmy51_homei'll try that, genii02:25
geniijimmy51_home: When done reconfiguring (you won't need sudo in that case)   put: telinit 2                                  to enter gui02:25
skierpageKHelpCenter in Kubuntu 9.04 has broken help for KInfoCenter > "IEEE 1394 Devices".  Is this obsolete? (it's the only KInfoCenter module listed)02:26
geniiskierpage: Perhaps file a bug at Launchpad02:26
flectorgtkmm... how to install properly for KDevelop?02:27
jimmy51_homegenii: hmm, it still crashed02:28
jimmy51_homercS-sulogin main process (4506) killed by SEGV signal02:28
ralmarWhat I said was: Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic in regular 9.04 ubuntu. but when i try to log in with my main user I get an error saying that my session lasted less than 10 seconds... and I can only log in with gnome on my main user. though I can use kde with another user. How can i fix this or see an error log? Thanks.02:28
skierpagegenii For sure, but is the bug "IEEE 1394 KCM incompletely installed" or "Traces of obsolete IEEE 1394 KCM remain" ? :-)02:29
rgarciadoes abnybody know how do I run superkaramba on jaunty?02:29
geniiskierpage: No idea :) Maybe put something that could be either02:29
geniiskierpage: IEEE 1394 KCM issue                      or so02:30
jimmy51_homehow do i edit my boot entry to not load X at all?02:30
jimmy51_homeor is that what recover mode was supposed to do?02:30
geniijimmy51_home: Recovery mode loads in single-user (root) so X can't start anyhow. In regular boot X starting has naught to do with anything in grub whatsoever02:31
rgarcia!info superkaramba02:31
ubottusuperkaramba (source: kdeutils): SuperKaramba theme support for the KDE 4 Plasma desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 363 kB, installed size 1248 kB02:31
skierpagegenii, will do.  (It was fascinating to learn how KHelpCenter builds its nav.)02:32
jimmy51_homegenii: so my problem is deeper than x config then.02:32
jimmy51_homegenii: should adding a pci nvidia 5200 card cause a crash on boot like that?  (is that typical when adding a video card)02:32
geniijimmy51_home: Usually you install onto the system in the state it will be and not swap video cards afterwards, etc02:33
rgarcia!info korss02:33
ubottuPackage korss does not exist in jaunty02:33
rgarcia!info kross02:33
ubottuPackage kross does not exist in jaunty02:33
genii!botabuse | rgarcia02:33
ubotturgarcia: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".02:33
geniijimmy51_home: It may be the system is trying to use a video output that was not the default before. Did you try yet plugging amonitor in every video output you have on it?02:35
jimmy51_homegenii: yeah.  the onboard shows nothing now.  the new card shows the bios splash, grub, and kubuntu loading screen until the crash02:36
rgarciagenii: i nobody can help me...do you know how to use superkaramba on jaunty?02:37
geniirgarcia: I don't use 9.04 or superkaramba, let alone both together. So I'm not much help to you on that.02:38
geniijimmy51_home: If you yank out the new card, boots OK from the old onboard?02:38
jimmy51_hometrying now02:39
jimmy51_homei just set it back to onboard video in the bios02:39
rgarciaok, thankss02:39
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geniiAmReEsH_: /join #syslinux                  probably02:41
FoxBlitzzHow come my file dialogs always sort by Alphabet Descending by default? Is there a way to make it sort Ascending by default instead?02:42
jimmy51_homegenii: boots fine without the pci card02:45
DaskreechFoxBlitzz: Wweird some people got athat bug in 4.2.102:45
jimmy51_homegenii: i plugged in the card, set default vga to onboard, and it still hangs during boot02:46
geniijimmy51_home: Maybe boot up to the onboard, do the nvidia driver install process, reboot/disable onboard/enable GeForce02:47
genii!nvidia02:47
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:47
jimmy51_homegenii: ok.  will installing the nvidia driver pack (kernel module i'm assuming) help witha  kernel crash on boot?  it seems like a 5200 pci should already be safe in 8.10 kernel02:50
geniijimmy51_home: It's my best tactic to try at this point02:51
ralmarHey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop and had a few questions. The thing is lets say I have firefox open on desktop 1, when I switch to desktop 2 I can see the firefox that is open and maximized in desktop 1, but i see it minimized in the taskbar. Is there away to make it not visible at all in desktop 2? Also, with gnome i had shortcuts to jump from desktop1 to desktop2, how can I set those up? Thanks02:53
qiyongmy ssh key doesn't work to a server, it prompts me password? what could go wrong?02:54
jimmy51_homeok02:54
jimmy51_homethanks02:54
ralmarAny ideas?02:55
kris!hdaintel02:55
ubottuFor fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto02:55
geniiralmar: Usually something like right-click on the window pager gives options like what to show, etc02:56
ralmargenii its set to only be in desktop 1, but when I go to desktop2 i can see it as if it wre minimized..02:56
Wolfcastlehello02:58
Wolfcastlehow do I scan for wifi connections in jaunty?02:58
WolfcastleI'm suspecting my wifi card is not detected02:58
Wolfcastlebut I am unsure02:58
terrestrewhich dvd burner came with jaunty? k3b?03:06
Daskreechyes03:08
aaron____Wolfcastle: iwlist scanning usually does the trick. It doesn't seem to be working in jaunty right now, though03:08
Wolfcastleaaron____: indeed, it says none of my interfaces supports scanning03:09
WolfcastleBut how can I know if my wifi card has been detected?03:09
aaron____Wolfcastle: it says the same thing on mine, but I can connect to wireless networks03:09
Wolfcastleaaron____: And how do you do it, with network-manager?03:09
aaron____I don't know if this will work but if you kill NetworkManager you might get a better result03:10
aaron____click on the network-manager icon, select a network, hope it's one of the ones network-manager works with. There are some problems with network-manager, enough that on the kubuntu list they're testing a newer, from svn version of it03:11
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Wolfcastleaaron____: the thing is, when clicking on the network-manager icon, it shows no networks, it just says Disconnected03:12
aaron____I think, but I'm not sure, that that just means you're not actually connected to a network right now03:13
Wolfcastleaaron____: ok so if I kill network-manager, what is the other option to use?03:13
aaron____mine says 'disconnected' but it lists networks03:13
aaron____Wolfcastle: don't kill network-manager (the KDE plasmoid), kill NetworkManager (the underlying thing it uses that might be messing with your results)03:14
huadoes anyone know how to check on ubuntu if you have a virus or infection?03:15
Wolfcastleuse clam antivirus maybe?03:16
Wolfcastlejust curious here, exactly what programs are specific to kubuntu in jaunty?03:17
Wolfcastleor are there none?03:17
huahow do i get that?03:17
geniihua: From Add/Remove03:18
Wolfcastlehua: It's in repositories...the package is called klam-av03:19
Wolfcastlesorry klamav03:19
huagenii:Thank you! and wolfcastle!!!03:19
Wolfcastleno problem03:20
geniiWolfcastle: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/kubuntu-desktop             BTW about your "whats specific to kubuntu"03:20
Wolfcastlehua: although klamav is the kde interface...if you don't need a fancy interface you can just install clamav03:20
flector"Other" isn't appearing in the applications menu...03:34
benjamin__anyone know of a wallpaper changer for kde?03:34
benjamin__nvm, turns out that it's built in already03:37
Rue-kunHow do you add spacers to your menu bar?03:41
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bradyDon't you just slide things around so that there is space between them?03:45
DaskreechNope03:45
DaskreechNo spacers until KDE 4.303:45
DaskreechSlight 1.5 year oversight03:46
bradyI guess "spacers" is a term I'm not familiar with then.03:46
* genii spacerfies Daskreech!03:48
Daskreechnooooo I'm not trunkish enough03:52
Daskreech I need the gym03:52
triuneanyone kno how to install the vanilla 2.6.29 kernel in jaunty03:53
triune?03:53
Daskreech!kernel03:53
ubottuThe core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages03:53
Phil_26Hello. Can I install Kde 3.5 in Kubuntu 9.04? (during the install process)03:53
triunewho said anything about compiling :X03:53
devilsadvocatePhil_26: no03:54
triunei head jaunty would have a vanilla kernel built in as a package?03:54
Phil_26devilsadvocate, the best would be to install kubuntu 8.10?!03:54
devilsadvocatePhil_26: if you want kde 3.5, then yes.03:55
Phil_26yes, it's only for testing purpose. ty :)03:55
delltest03:56
DaskreechPhil_26 Yes03:56
DaskreechDamn it03:56
Daskreech!kde303:56
ubottuKubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page03:56
Daskreechdevilsadvocate: See above03:56
kuaeraIs there any way to get around the lack of the ehci_hcd module in Jaunty? I'm desperately trying to get some USB 2.0 devices working to no avail :/03:57
ralmarHey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop and had a few questions. The thing is lets say I have firefox open on desktop 1, when I switch to desktop 2 I can see the firefox that is open and maximized in desktop 1, but i see it minimized in the taskbar. Is there away to make it not visible at all in desktop 2? Also, with gnome i had shortcuts to jump from desktop1 to desktop2, how can I set those up? Thanks03:59
JontheEchidnaralmar: right click on any empty space in the task manager and select "Task Manager Settings"04:02
JontheEchidnaif it's all full, you can open the panel config bar by clicking the icon on the very right of the panel, and then right click the task manager04:02
JontheEchidnabut anyway, once you are in the settings dialog you should be able to select "Only show tasks from the current desktop"04:03
kuaeraJontheEchidna: You're knowledgeable... Do you have any information about USB 2.0 problems and the ehci_hcd module?04:04
JontheEchidnakuaera: sorry, I don't know anything about that really :(04:04
liangzhichaohi,  how to cross compilt a debian source package?04:05
ralmarJontheEchidna, thanks the worked great. Now what about setting a shortcut to switch between desktops?04:05
kuaeraJontheEchidna: :< I wanted to test out DigiKam with this Samsung S630, but I can't get the camera to be recognized by the computer.04:05
aaron____ralmar: if you go to system settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Global keyboard shortcuts04:05
aaron____the kde component you're looking for is Kwin, switch to next desktop and switch to previous desktop04:06
JontheEchidnaI think there should already be "switch to desktop x" shortcuts04:06
JontheEchidnaCrtl + x, where x is the desktop number04:06
JontheEchidnaby default it goes up to 404:07
ralmaraaron___ thanks. that worked great04:07
aaron____ralmar: no problem04:07
ralmaraaron____,  or anyone else here. Any tips on making kubuntu even nicer looking? Maybe  a dock or some sort of theme (maybe one that looks like mac osx?)?04:08
geniikuaera: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/88746 describes this bug. There does not yet seem to be a solution.04:08
liangzhichao!hi,  how to cross compilt a debian source package?04:09
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:09
liangzhichao!cross compilte?04:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cross compilte?04:09
liangzhichao!cross compilte04:09
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about cross compilte04:09
aaron____ralmar: there are more plasma themes available. If you click on the cashew in the top right corner of the desktop and then appearance settings you can click on 'New theme' or 'get new wallpapers'04:10
aaron____liangzhichao: do you mean 'cross compile'?04:11
ralmaraaron____,  will try that thanks. Any way to get a dock? Will gnome do docky work in kubuntu?04:11
aaron____ralmar: I don't know, I haven't seen one...04:12
qiyonghow to do autostart?04:12
aaron____ralmar: I'm just looking around but the 'glassified' theme looks nice. It's just a different theme for the original dock04:13
genii!startup | qiyong04:13
ubottuqiyong: To make programs start up automatically when you log into your KDE session, run all programs that you want to be started and close all other programs, then select 'Save Session' in the K menu. Alternatively, create a !symlink to the wanted program in ~/.kde/Autostart - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot04:13
DaskreechJontheEchidna: That's ^Fx04:14
Daskreechand by default it goes up to 204:14
liangzhichaoaaron____yes, i want to cross-compilte a debian source package?04:14
liangzhichaoaaron____:  yes, i want to cross-compilte a debian source package?04:14
kuaeragenii: Thanks for the info...though it's disheartening to see that this has been broken so many times before and varies between being fixed, broken, and "won't fix" :<04:14
aaron____liangzhichao: I don't know how to do that but I don't think there's supposed to be a 't' in compile. It might help you find some more information04:15
qiyonggene: my k menu doesn't have 'Save Session'04:15
geniikuaera: I usually remain with the long-term-support versions for these sort of reasons04:16
kuaeragenii: The bug also suggests that the bug affects older versions of ubuntu with updated kernels >_>04:16
cathcomhola04:17
cathcomalquien habla espanol04:17
JontheEchidna!es | cathcom04:17
ubottucathcom: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.04:17
liangzhichaoaaron____:  thanks any way04:17
cathcomgracias04:17
aaron____you're welcome04:17
geniikuaera: I'm not noticing it on my 8.04 with 2.6.24-24-generic yet, luckily04:18
cathcombye04:18
digdeepdoes anyone has problems to watch youtube (e.g. no sound at all)?04:19
kuaeragenii: 2.6.28-11 here, so.04:20
Daskreechdigdeep:  I don't04:26
digdeepDaskreech: r u using jaunty?04:27
DaskreechSi but Firefox04:27
crzyboihello, could someone help me out with install vmware workstation in 9.0404:37
crzyboii cnt seem to get it to work04:37
Phil_26Hello. Is it possible to restart a kde box with a console command?04:43
DarthFrogYep.  "sudo reboot"04:43
Phil_26work, thx04:44
DarthFrogOr if you do it from an Alt-F2 mini-CLI, "kdesudo reboot".04:45
DaskreechIt's still sudo reboot04:46
DarthFrogAnd how do you enter the password then?04:46
DaskreechYou only use kdesudo if the final command ends up in a GUI application04:46
DarthFrogAh.04:46
DaskreechRun in terminal ? :)04:46
DaskreechPhil_26: Oh You were asking if you can install KDE3 ?04:46
DarthFrogRun in terminal.  Funny guy. :-)04:46
Daskreech!vmware04:47
ubottuVMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware04:47
DarthFrogVMWare Workstation 6.5.2 runs just fine in Jaunty.04:47
DarthFrogKnetworkmanager doesn't, though.  P.O.S.04:47
Phil_26yes I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 on a VMWare virtual machine. I am still wondering how to reboot my box04:47
Phil_26sudo reboot work locally but don't work on my box, I think it is running debian04:48
DarthFrogPhil_26: It doesn't work in the virtual machine?  Or the real machine?04:48
Phil_26I mean it work on the Virtual Machine but don't work with my server04:48
DarthFrogIs it running Ubuntu?04:49
Phil_26i'm pretty sure it is running debian 404:49
DarthFrogDo you have a root password on that machine?04:49
Phil_26no04:49
geniiGood04:50
DarthFrogAh, then you'll have to set up the /etc/sudoers file to allow you to use sudo.  It would seem that Debian and Ubuntu differ in that regard.04:50
princeduganhow would I go about getting my Intel Corporation 82852/855GM card to output S-Video ? It doesn't show as an option in xrandr -q04:50
DarthFrogHave you tried it to see if its doing it already?04:51
Phil_26the sudo is not working no. I will ask the admin I think so :P04:53
jimmy51_homegenii: i thought i had something going.  i updated to 9.04, added the card, clicked to activate the NVidia proprietary drivers, and .....04:54
jimmy51_homeX quit loading... i got a terminal with a blinking screen04:54
jimmy51_homei think i'm going to give up on the nvidia card and stick with the integrated gma 95004:55
Daskreech!kde3 | Phil_2604:55
ubottuPhil_26: Kubuntu 8.04 ships with KDE3 and full support. Jaunty does not include KDE3 but a remix install CD can be obtained at  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty . This is not officially supported. Support, instructions and ways to contribute can be found on the wiki page04:55
geniijimmy51_home: Can you get to another console with ctrl-alt-f1 or so?  Also may be switching at that point to the other card for default output04:55
jimmy51_homeyeah, i got to other terminals04:56
jimmy51_homenone of them would start X server04:56
jimmy51_homenow i just get seg faults04:56
geniiBleh04:57
geniijimmy51_home: I'm out of immediate ideas on it04:57
jimmy51_homebleh is right04:57
jimmy51_homeme too :)04:57
jimmy51_homeother than unplug and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with out it04:57
jimmy51_homemy 8800 gt went smoothly.  too bad this 5200 on my wife's machine isn't.  no compiz for her!04:58
DarthFrog!knetworkmanager05:00
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up05:00
jimmy51_home!desktopeffects05:00
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about desktopeffects05:00
jimmy51_home!compiz05:00
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz-fusion05:00
faileasgah...05:01
faileaswhat's the trigger for unlocking apt? ;p05:01
faileas!apt05:01
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:01
faileas!aptunlock05:01
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about aptunlock05:01
DarthFrogfaileas: If it's locked, then something is using it.05:01
digdeepis there any way to stop nfts to ask password after each boot05:01
faileasDarthFrog: borked install process05:01
faileasso i want to unlock it05:01
DarthFrogDelete the lock file.05:02
faileasand... where is that?05:02
DarthFrogTry /var/run.  I'm not sure, it's been a long time since I last looked for it.05:03
kuaeraHmm. I no longer have an xorg.conf file in jaunty, as the autoconfiguration has been perfectly fine; however, OpenGL acceration has been slow, with window compositing being unusable. [All this with the ati driver] Where may I find resources for finding which X modules may help my speed and how to alter the autoconfiguration process without recreating xorg.conf?05:03
DarthFrogkuaera: Now there's a good question.   I'd like to know that myself.05:04
kuaeraDarthFrog: Have you done anything with altering the autoconfiguration before? I changed the settings for my touchpad to disable "sidescrolling" and enable "two-finger scrolling"05:05
DarthFrogkuaera: Nothing, other than editing the xorg.conf file.05:06
kuaeraDarthFrog: As far as I can recall, the autoconfiguration stuff uses the same terms as the xorg.conf file does, but inside an XML syntax05:06
DarthFrogSo far <knock on wooden head> autoconfiguration has worked for me, on the machines that Jaunty has been able to run on.05:06
bootsmorrishi all05:08
DarthFrogI have one machine, that runs Fedora 9 just fine, that Jaunty segfaults everytime about 10 secs after authenticating with KDM or GDM.05:08
kuaeraDarthFrog: Yuck :/05:08
bootsmorrison my jaunty it randomly freezes05:09
Daskreech!adeptfix | faileas05:09
ubottufaileas: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »05:09
faileasDaskreech: thanks ^^05:09
DarthFrogbootsmorris: Have you run the memtest utility to see if your RAM is OK?05:09
kuaeraDarthFrog: /etc/hal/fdi/ seems to contain the FDI files for HAL autoconfiguration05:09
bootsmorrisyea the ram is fine.  i can run 8.10 perfectly and windows xp/vista no prob05:09
kuaeraDarthFrog: I have a modified policy/synaptics-prefs.fdi file, if you're interested :P05:10
DarthFrogkuaera: Tnx, but I don't want to go there yet. :-)05:11
bootsmorrisidk what the prob is.  i wish i knew how to fix it.  is definately the best ubuntu yet05:11
benjamin__can anyone tell me what the keyboard command is to switch between multiple desktops?05:12
DarthFrogUbuntu Jaunty is excellent.  Kubuntu is mostly execellent.  Knetworkmanager simply does not work.05:12
bootsmorrisnetwork manager sucks.  i use wifi radar05:12
DarthFrogWifi radar?  What's that?05:13
DarthFrogbenjamin__: CTL-F1 to CTL-F<whatever the highest number desktop is>05:14
benjamin__DarthFrog: awesome, thanks!05:14
bootsmorrisit is a wireless network connection manager.  i used to use it in gnome.  my knetworkmanager is working for me at the moment so i havent gotten it yet.  it has worked well for me in the past05:14
DarthFrogbootsmorris: Installing it now, tnx.05:15
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bootsmorrisur welcome05:15
bootsmorristhere is another one but idk what it is called05:15
bootsmorristhere is another one but idk what it is called cd when my screwed up on me so i have to do the whole dist upgrade thing05:16
bootsmorrisidk what happened there..  sorry05:16
luis_hi good nigth again05:18
bootsmorrisDarthFrog  is it working for ya05:19
luis_question: how do i uncomment a line or what does that means???05:19
DarthFrogbootsmorris: No.05:19
bootsmorrisyou uncomment it by removing the pound signs that are in front of it05:19
bootsmorrisDarthFrog  really???05:19
DarthFrogbootsmorris: Not to worry, I don't really need it.05:19
bootsmorrisDarthFrog  that is interesting.  any error messages??05:20
luis_ok thanks a lot05:20
bootsmorrisDarthFrog  how are you turning what you are saying to me red??05:21
luis_do i haaave to do so on every line where that file appears or just the first line?05:21
DarthFrogbootsmorris: Yeah, no wpa_supplicant.conf file and a permissions denied when trying to create the dhcp.leases file, It's running under sudo so I'm surprised about the permissions issue.05:21
bootsmorristhat is weird.  hmmmm.  i know you have to have the wpa thing and it is prob just freaking out about that05:22
DarthFrogbootsmorris: :-)  I'm not doing it.  Quassel is doing it; it's highlighting lines with your nick in them.05:22
bootsmorriswill konversation do that05:22
DarthFrogI imagine it could be configured to do so.05:23
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DarthFrogAnd I imagine that it could be turned off in Quassel.05:23
bootsmorrisdoes anyone know how to do this??05:23
DarthFrogGuest16059: Running as root is dumb.05:23
terrestream on ubuntu sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop will install kde4 or kde3?05:23
Daskreechin a GUI05:23
bootsmorrisluis_ all of the ones you want to uncomment05:24
Daskreechterrestre: Which release of Ubuntu ?05:24
terrestre9.0405:24
DarthFrogterrestre: KDE 4.2.205:24
terrestreDarkriftX, thx :)05:24
DaskreechIf you want KDE3 it's available05:24
bootsmorrisDarthFrog  do you know how to make konversation do that05:24
Daskreechin a semi official manner05:25
DarthFrogbootsmorris: I'd look through the configuration settings and see what joy I could find there.05:25
terrestreis for a guy in ubuntu, he want to try kubuntu05:25
terrestrek3b is still using kde3 libs right?05:26
bootsmorrisDarthFrog i just did that.  no luck05:26
DarthFrogWith the release of KDE 4.2, why would anyone want to run KDE3?05:26
DarthFrogterrestre: I think so.  I think K3B is one of the apps that hasn't yet been ported to KDE4.05:27
luis_well that i dont know i am trying to install my epson stylus scan feature and following this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 it gets to a path where i need to edit and rigth into the directory says: uncomment the following line.... but there are some other lines that has the same /dev... i paste bin and c if u can help me http://pastebin.com/m7c421e05:27
luis_cx560005:27
SandGorgonman.. the mandriva KDE configuration and theme is how it should have been05:27
terrestrek3b is a great app, im using ubuntu right now but brasero burning is so slw k3b work just great05:28
* genii runs screaming from luis_ until tomorrow!05:28
luis_i know genii05:28
luis_sorry05:28
luis_i am obses05:28
krisHi. I'm on an x86_64 processor. I'm trying to install a package from a 3rd party .deb repository that doesn't have x86_64 packages. 1) Is it possible to run a program compiled for i386 on 64-bit linux (Like Vista's compatibility mode)? 2) If so, is it possible to direct apt to do this automatically? Thanks in advance!05:28
luis_with this05:28
geniiluis_: It's OK, I understand05:28
luis_its just driving me crazy05:29
luis_what i did is to erase everythin05:29
luis_and start fresh over05:29
jimmy51_homewhere do you set the window manager in KDE 4.2?05:29
luis_and i am ate the first editing path05:29
luis_but i dont want to mistake again05:29
GS3User007jimmy51_home: what do you mean?05:30
luis_so while doing the editing i was reading in there and it says that i have to uncomment a line diferente than the gui says05:30
geniikris: I think what you want is package ia32-libs05:30
digdeepFYI: how to stop ntfs asking passwords, after each boot --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1128099&highlight=stop+nfts+to+ask+password&page=205:30
jimmy51_homeGS3User007: i have compiz installed, but i want to change the window manager to it05:31
krisgenii: Okie dokie! Thanks!05:31
geniikris: Also perhaps check out http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Running_32-bit_Applications_on_64-bit_Debian_GNU/Linux05:31
jimmy51_home!compiz05:32
ubottuCompiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz-fusion05:32
GS3User007jimmy51_home: hmmm... i did that a long time ago, i don't recall how to though. Is there a particular effect in compiz that isn't in kde4 yet?05:32
krisgenii: Hrm. It's apparently already installed...05:32
krisOne second...05:32
jimmy51_homeGS3User007: uh.... don't you need compiz to get all the crazy effects?  (wobbly windows, desktop cube/cylinder, etc)05:32
DarthFrogluis_: Did you install iscan?05:32
GS3User007jimmy51_home: not anymore05:32
GS3User007jimmy51_home: not in kde anyway05:33
BluesKajIs it safe to edit out the older unused kernels listed in the the grub menu.lst  ?05:33
luis_DarthFrog i have xsane05:33
DarthFrogBluesKaj: More better to use a package manager to uninstall those kernels and have it done automatically.05:33
krisgenii: Ok. The problem that I'm having appears to be in apt. It looks for the package in the amd64 directory on the repository. But no package is there. How can I tell apt to grab the 32-bit package?05:33
GS3User007jimmy51_home: System Settings -> Desktop -> All Effects05:33
jimmy51_homeGS3User007: hmmm.... i'll have to look into that05:33
luis_actually i am following this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471; and it doesnt ask me to install iscan05:34
DarthFrogluis_: I have an Epson scanner  (Photo 4490).  Xsane never worked.  Iscan worked.05:34
geniiBluesKaj: Better to uninstall them by names like linux-image-<obsolete-version-numbers-here>   and they get auto-removed from menu.lst05:34
luis_mine is a multifunctional epson stylus cx560005:34
luis_is the same?05:35
jimmy51_homewhoa05:35
BluesKajDarthFrog, genii , thx05:35
jimmy51_homeis compiz embedded in kde 4?  or did they just write something to replace it?05:35
geniikris: I'd d/l the .deb file and just use dpkg -i debname.deb    idea05:35
* kuaera reads a ton, woots a little05:35
luis_iam ready DarthFrog if u can assit me ill do what according to ur guidelines05:35
GS3User007jimmy51_home: my understanding is that it was basically replaced/copied/ported05:35
kuaeraGallium3D expected by the end of the year :O05:35
kuaeraNext year will be a good year for linux, IMO >_>;05:35
luis_but then i think i have to undo what i have done so i wont get any mistakes05:36
DarthFrogluis_: I don't know, sorry. I'm far from a expert on scanners.  I do know that I had to install the Advansys drivers and use iscan, the official Epson scanner program.  My Epson scanner worked fine in Intrepid after that.  I've not tried it in Jaunty.05:36
krisgenii: Ok. Thanks for that.05:36
luis_ok05:36
luis_can u tell me what to do DarthFrog pls?05:37
tweakedehI just installed Kubuntu 9.04 64Bit on a dell laptop and I dont understand how to find my wireless connection.05:37
DarthFrogluis_: Sorry, no.  Other than what that HOWTO tells you to do.  If you've installed the Advansys drivers, then try installing iscan (from the same place) and giving it a shot.05:38
geniikris: Synatx is like: sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture package.deb05:38
tweakedehI found where to go but I don't see and of the wireless connections around here.05:38
krisgenii: Having looked at the link you just provided, I think I'm just going to go ahead and compile from source, rather than trying to hunt down every library I need and put it into the proper directory ...05:39
geniikris: Probably better that way anyhow05:39
luis_ok after doing as the how to i pastebin on the edit path i saved and i got this after closing it: http://pastebin.com/m379b767105:39
krisgenii: Thanks again!05:40
luis_why am i getting this? is this suppose to happen? how do i fix it?05:40
geniikris: You're welcome05:40
DarthFrogluis_: Try the edit again.  Kate segfaulted on you.05:40
luis_ok05:41
tweakedehDoes any one know why my wireless isnt working?05:41
geniitweakedeh: Is it some Broadcom thing?05:41
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krisBroadcom is a four letter word in the linux world ...05:42
tweakedehgenii: I have no clue. I just got this computer yesterday and installed linux.05:42
geniikris: Yes. PITA05:42
kristweakedeh: "lspci", please.05:43
geniitweakedeh: In the pastebin, not here05:43
genii!paste05:43
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)05:43
luis_ok i did kdesudo kate /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf and in there i just click on save again since there was the changes i did first time in there05:43
luis_is that ok?05:43
jimmy51_homedoes OpenGL perform better than XRender on an Intel GMA 950?05:44
jimmy51_home(for desktop effects)05:44
tweakedehkris: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/161137/05:44
DarthFrogluis_: What does scanimage -L and sane-find-scanner tell you?05:44
kristweakedeh: Atheros chip. Yep, it's a broadcom thing.05:45
kris!ndiswrapper | tweakedeh05:45
ubottutweakedeh: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:45
DarthFrogNope.  Atheros isn't Broadcom.05:45
krisDarthFrog: It isn't? I thought I had one ...05:46
luis_iam working on it05:46
tweakedehSo What should i do? follow the instructions on this page?05:46
DarthFrogAtheros is good news, there are two native Linux drivers for it.05:46
* kris doesn't know what he's talking about, then ...05:47
kris:-)05:47
luis_first command: http://pastebin.com/m172616f405:47
luis_second command: http://pastebin.com/m6ece647605:48
DarthFrogluis_: Are you sure your scanner is supported by the epkowa driver?  Is saned running?05:49
luis_i dont know i tols u i am followinf this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471; that says how to configure my scan feature05:50
DarthFrogIs that for your model scanner?  Does it say to install the Advansys packages for your model?05:51
luis_mi model is there05:51
bootsmorrisit took me less than 1 hour to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.1005:51
luis_but it doesnt give me instructions on that advansys05:51
DarthFrogluis_: Until sane-find-scanner reports finding a scanner, things are not going to work.05:51
luis_well i already reach the part where is asking me to restarrt my sysem05:52
luis_on the how to i paste bin05:52
luis_let me do so and let u know05:52
luis_brb05:52
DarthFrogRestart your system?  Hmm, I'm not impressed.05:53
luis_ok DarthFrog heres what i got whit this command: http://pastebin.com/m36fc231a05:58
DarthFrogluis_: That's good news.  Your system is now seeing the scanner!  Does xsane see it?06:00
luis_i do still have some other lines to go forward06:00
luis_but i am confuse06:00
ErmottGreetings.06:00
DarthFrogluis_: Just run xsane and see.06:00
luis_ok06:00
luis_no06:02
luis_and it turn off my multifunctional06:02
DarthFrogTHen try iscan.06:02
ErmottCongratulate me. I just now managed to get 9.04 running on my hp ze4900. I never thought I could do this linux thing, and now I just had to tell someone :)06:02
ErmottIt was easy actually.06:02
luis_no says hat cant c it06:03
GS3User007Ermott: congrats06:03
DarthFrogluis_: ?06:03
luis_but i am at this stage on the how to i am following:06:03
luis_Now run the scanner identifier06:03
luis_Code:06:04
luis_sane-find-scanner06:04
luis_and see where it is located as a usb, the scanner will always have product=0x083f06:04
luis_Modify the permission06:04
luis_Code:06:04
luis_sudo chmod 0755 /proc/bus/usb/*/*06:04
luis_The asterisks can be 001/002 or 001/003 or whatever, that depends on the response above.06:04
luis_Now we can run the program06:04
luis_Code:06:04
luis_iscan06:04
luis_It should work.06:04
luis_If you want to use xsane it should work as well, modify the permission:06:04
DarthFrogluis_: STOP IT!06:04
luis_Code:06:04
luis_sudo chmod 0755 /usr/bin/xsane06:04
luis_and run it either in a terminal or with the menu.06:04
luis_ups sorry06:04
luis_http://pastebin.com/m1eeb108206:04
DarthFrogJust do it.06:04
luis_where i am confuse is at the number  line06:04
luis_cause it has some asterixs06:05
luis_and i dont know how to replace those06:05
ErmottI don't think I shall ever use windows again. I really like how you can select software from a list and... it's all automagically added to your computer... Such a great idea.06:05
DarthFrogluis_: Found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [Language Error], product=0x083f [Language Error]) at libusb:003:00206:06
GS3User007Ermott: indeed, it's rather nice. The trick though, is to find what you're looking for :P06:06
DarthFrogSo the numbers are 003 and 00206:06
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luis_do i have to type this: 003:002 on every asterixs space? or 003 on one asterix space and then 002 on the next asterix space?06:07
DarthFrogluis_: sudo chmod 0755 /proc/bus/usb/003/00206:07
luis_ok txs06:07
DarthFrogNo asterisks.06:07
DarthFrogErmott: It is a great idea.  But Microsoft doesn't make a dime off it.06:08
luis_heres what i got:06:08
luis_chmod: cannot access `/proc/bus/usb/003/002': No such file or directory06:08
luis_luis@Mario-Luis:~$06:08
ErmottGS3User007: Wel, I have thus far found all my needs met. Open office 3.0, Komposer, the Gimp... firefox and thunderbird... the change has actually been rather painless.06:08
luis_so that is not good i think06:08
ErmottAnd as DarthFrog mentioned, No Microsoft.06:09
DarthFrogluis_: Go exploring in /proc/usb/bus and see if anything looks like a scanner.06:09
luis_just type that right?06:09
DarthFrogNo.06:10
luis_i saw that already06:10
luis_no such file...06:10
DarthFrog"cd /proc/usb/bus"  then "ls"  and see what you see.06:10
luis_ok06:10
luis_same06:11
luis_no such file or diectory06:11
DarthFrogYou could also try "lsusb", which will print out a list of your usb devices.06:11
ErmottThe thing that annoyed me with Microsoft, was when I recently bought the new Streets and Trips navigation software. I found it worse than older versions, and they didn't update the maps. I bought a standalone gps unit, and switched OS in my laptop.06:11
luis_ok then let me go for the last command06:11
DarthFrogluis_: Try this: sudo chmod 0755 /proc/usb/bus/003/00206:11
DarthFrogIt' looks like they had /bus/usb when it should be /usb/bus.06:12
ErmottSo... have a nice day/morning/evening everyone... I'm going to explore this Ubuntu thing a little more :)06:12
luis_with lsusb: http://pastebin.com/m5a7e456806:12
DarthFrogErmott: Have fun!  Welcome to the Light Side of the Force.06:13
luis_and with the last one same no such file or directory06:13
DarthFrogluis_: Try this: sudo chmod 0755 /proc/usb/bus/003/00306:13
DarthFrogYour lsusb says its at 003:00306:13
luis_same: cannot access ..... no such file or directory06:14
DarthFrogluis_: OK, try this "cd /proc/usb/bus"  then "ls".  What do you get?06:15
husaynhow to check that my graphics card is installed or not ?06:15
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DarthFroghusayn: Can you see anything on the monitor?  :-)06:15
luis_no such file or directory06:15
husaynya06:15
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husaynbut the PC seems slow.. and i think graphics card is not installed properly06:16
DarthFrogluis_: Really?   Hmm.  What do you get with "cd /proc/usb" then "ls"?06:16
luis_and with ls: http://pastebin.com/m5ccc8b1006:16
husaynalso when i see PDF files.... they are quite slow...06:17
luis_with the first no such file or directory06:17
luis_with ls just paste bin06:17
husaynso how to installed graphics card on Kubuntu Hardy Heron06:17
husaynits an iNtel graphics card06:17
snarkster!info 3gp06:18
ubottuPackage 3gp does not exist in jaunty06:18
DarthFrogluis_: OK, "cd /proc/bus" then "ls".  What then?06:18
snarksterdo any of you know how to convert 3gp audio files to something alittle easier to work with06:18
triuneLOL06:18
triuneLOL06:18
triune-rw-------   1 g    g    761848910545 2009-04-30 01:16 .xsession-errors06:18
triunewow06:18
triunethats one LARGE file06:19
triune768 gigs!06:19
snarksterthats a mistake06:19
luis_that did something: http://pastebin.com/mc4b10906:19
triunethink im going to reroute xsession errors to /dev/null instead06:19
luis_i think ur getting closer DarthFrog06:20
DarthFrogluis_: OK, now "cd /proc/bus/usb" and "ls".06:20
luis_whats next?06:20
luis_ok06:20
DarthFrogtriune: You better hope that's a sparse file and that that space hasn't been allocated. :-)  Or your 1 TB disk is being somewhat wasted. :-)06:21
luis_here it is: http://pastebin.com/m527d57d06:21
DarthFrogtriune: I'd be tempted to zip the file, just for shits & giggles, to see how small it gets.06:22
snarksteranyone know anything about 3gp audio files?06:23
Daskreech!ohmy06:23
ubottuPlease remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others.06:23
DarthFrog:-)  My bad, sorry.06:23
snarkstertry farts and laughs06:23
DarthFrogluis_: That's not the right cd command.06:23
digdeepDaskreech: able to fix sound problem while watching youtube06:24
luis_is the one u gave me06:24
luis_so whats the good one'06:24
DarthFrog"cd /proc/bus/usb" and "ls".06:24
Daskreechdigdeep: youare ?06:24
DarthFrogluis_: Have you installed iscan?06:24
luis_i dont kknow06:25
digdeepDaskreech: yes, but using alsa06:25
luis_i dont think so06:25
luis_sudo apt-get install iscan right?06:25
DarthFrogyes.06:25
DarthFrogThough you have an iscan deb file on your desktop, don't you?06:26
Daskreechalsa is fine06:26
luis_it says that is already the newest version06:27
luis_so whats nest?06:27
DarthFrogThen just run iscan.06:27
luis_ok06:27
husaynIPTABLES is the default firewall in Kubuntu......... but its CLI... is there any GUI for that IPTABLES so that I can install on Kubuntu and configure it06:28
genii!info firestarter06:28
ubottufirestarter (source: firestarter): gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-7ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 406 kB, installed size 1968 kB06:28
Zulhelmiermmm06:28
Zulhelmii need help06:28
luis_it appears a little wiindow saying: Could nnot send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status theOK06:28
Zulhelmijust installed my kubuntu and i cant connect to my wireless network06:29
geniihusayn: See the bot's link. Also maybe look at guarddog06:29
husaynwhich one is the best ?06:29
husaynGuarddog or Firestarter06:29
snarksterfirestarter06:29
husaynso i should go with    sudo apt-get install Firestarter06:29
snarksterbut thats only my opinion06:29
geniihusayn: lower-case the F in there06:29
husaynThanks its working06:30
bot10need a little help, after i have kde and gnome install, whenever i log into kubuntu i get sound, but in ubuntu studio i only get statics, someobdy has a clue?06:30
husaynsecondly i want to know... how to share a folder in Kubuntu06:30
snarkstercould use some advice on these .3gp audio files i have06:30
husaynsnarkster: try runing them by VLC06:30
Zulhelmiermm anyone on my wireless?? it can see my network, but when i typed my WEP key, it just fails06:30
geniisnarkster: I managed to play them off my phone before, can't remember just now how06:31
snarksteroh i can play them, i need to convert them to remove some noise06:31
snarksteri have them on my phone and computer now, just trying to convert them to something easier to use06:31
luis_nop06:32
luis_not with iscan, no with xsane06:32
husaynWhen i go to Policy in FIrestarter... I cannnot add rule06:32
geniisnarkster: ffmpeg likely then06:32
husaynohh sorry06:32
husaynits working06:32
luis_so if this is not working how do i remove or undo what i have done? and do what u first told me to DarthFrog?06:34
luis_or can it be done withouth removing or undoing what i have done?06:34
DarthFrogluis_: Sorry, I'm out of ideas.06:34
luis_ok06:34
luis_lets do what u did06:34
luis_what do i do or how do i install what u say?06:35
DarthFrogluis_: However that sane-find-scanner found your scanner is excellent.06:36
DarthFrogluis_: Whoever next helps you, be sure to tell them that.  It's important.06:36
luis_ok06:36
luis_txs a lot06:37
* genii jerks awake then realizes work starts in 5 hours06:38
Daskreechnight06:38
* DarthFrog bids everyone a good night and is off to his own bed. 06:43
nukem2525is it practical/secure to give a user account privileges over the x session06:45
nukem2525to be able to start and stop it06:46
mkassonwhen I press Ctrl - Windows I get cool magic stars06:48
mkassonor I'm dreaming06:48
mkassonwhat are they for?06:48
nukem2525do you have compiz or somthing similar installed06:50
aaron____I know that this isn't exactly the right place to ask this but does anybody know how to use some of the less obvious features in Parley?06:50
Daskreechmkasson: To let you know where the mouse is06:50
DaskreechWhich non obvious features?06:50
geniimkasson: It's the "super" key06:50
aaron____Daskreech: the conjugation stuff. There's an option to test on different conjugations but I can't figure out how to use it06:50
snarkstergoodnight06:51
aaron____Daskreech: I can't figure out how to tell it that X is a conjugated form of Y, nor where to put in answers on a conjugation test, if that helps at all06:54
tweakedehEvery time i try to connect to my home wireless network it says it fails. I took down the security and it still fails. any ideaas?06:54
DaskreechSorry haven't played that much with parley. #kdeedu  would be a better chan06:55
mkassonoh... it looks... magic!!06:55
mkassonthanks folks06:55
aaron____Daskreech: I'm trying, but no responses for 4 or 5 hours now :-(06:55
aaron____thanks anyway06:55
tweakedeh_I have Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X and every time I try to connect to my home net work it fails07:02
tweakedeh_Any one?07:05
tweakedeh_Been working at this problem all day and I can now see the netoworks around me but It wont let me connect. it keeps failing.07:05
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Tac_Workso... canonical won't ship to the US, but the usstore they point you to, doesn't have 9.04 CD's ... any alternatives?  ( I want to buy them instead of burn them so they look nicer to give to people )07:21
nukem2525there used to be a place that would ship you the CDs for free07:22
nukem2525ill look real quick07:22
Tac_Workshipit, but I want them faster than the few months they say it can take :-p... plus I want a couple dozen or so07:22
bazhang!shipit07:23
ubottushipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu and Kubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org - Shipit will send Jaunty (9.04) CDs07:23
nukem2525thats it07:23
Tac_Workright.... but read what I just said ...07:23
Tac_Workthey say if you want more than 1, you may not get approved, and it will take forever ( in so many words )07:23
Tac_WorkI can just burn em... but they look more reputable to give to people in nice cases with nice looking CD's :)07:24
nukem2525it does take forever, I think some time around 6.10 I requested 3 and it took about 7 weeks07:24
nukem2525they came in nice printed cardboard sleeves07:25
Tac_Workmaybe the usstore will have them quick I guess...07:25
Tac_Workright, I used shipit way back in the day as well07:25
justin__i just switched to gnome and my theme is screwed up where can i get the default theme gtk+ human from07:25
Tac_WorkI still have a few 8.something CD's07:25
nukem2525I had actually forgotten I had requested them by the time they arrived07:26
Tac_WorkI think that's what they are... I'd have to find them07:26
Tac_Workbut yeah, the usstore only has 8.10... they don't have 9.0407:26
sven_hello all, for hacking my router I need to work with TFTP-Client for Windows... but... I use Kubuntu, how can I solve this problem?07:26
nukem2525Tac_Work:  I would assume they will get them in quick07:27
nukem2525whats the easiest most efficient way to get krfb to only accept connections from localhost07:28
sven_hello all, for hacking my router I need to work with TFTP-Client for Windows... but... I use Kubuntu, how can I solve this problem?07:37
noaXessgood morning.07:37
jaguar123321does anyone know how to enable "focus on mouse wheel on inactive window" in kde 4.2.2 in Kubuntu Jaunty?07:37
jaguar123321this feature is present in kde 3.5 but absent in kde 4.2.207:37
GS3User007jaguar123321: I don't see that option anywhere (now that i've gone looking for it).07:41
sven_does nobody have a solution for me :s07:47
GS3User007sven_: sorry, i'm not familiar with that at all07:47
Daskreechsven_: tftp is a FTP client ?07:49
Daskreech!ftp07:49
ubottuFTP clients: Nautilus (Places -> Connect to server), gFTP, FileZilla (for !GNOME); Konqueror, Kasablanca, KFTPGrabber (for !KDE); FireFTP (for Firefox); ftp, lftp (for !cli) - See also !FTPd07:49
GS3User007sven_: adept has several entries for things about tftp07:50
Daskreechyou can use Konqueror07:50
sven_I need TFTP client, not FTP07:51
Daskreechtftp is tiny ftp07:52
sven_Daskreech: T = TRIVIAL07:52
Daskreechsorry yes that's correct07:53
Daskreech!find tftp07:53
ubottuFound: tftp-hpa, tftpd-hpa, atftp, atftpd, libnet-tftp-perl (and 5 others)07:53
Daskreech!info atftp07:53
ubottuatftp (source: atftp): advanced TFTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.dfsg-6ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 28 kB, installed size 112 kB07:53
DaskreechThere you fo07:53
Daskreechgo07:53
sven_ubottu: is it with UI?07:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about is it with UI?07:53
Daskreech!bot07:54
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots07:54
floydwildeI've got regular ubunut installed, and some kde apps installed, whats the best way to get the rest of kde installed?08:00
nukem2525does anyone have an easy solution to block krfb from accepting any connections other than localhost?08:02
nukem2525I suppose a simple way to block incoming connections on port 590008:03
floydwildeI thought you could do apt-get install kubuntu?08:10
GS3User007try kde instead of kubuntu08:11
Daskreech!kubuntu08:11
ubottuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE08:11
GS3User007or maybe kubuntu-desktop08:11
Daskreech!kde08:11
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde408:11
floydwildeI've got all the kde packages installed, no kubuntu packages anymore?08:13
GS3User007i don't know... what are you trying to do?08:14
floydwildeapt-cache search kubuntu = nada08:14
floydwildeinstall kubuntu from regular ubuntu08:14
GS3User007try apt-get install kde08:14
floydwildeI think i did already, heh, I'm enjoying it now08:15
GS3User007oh, okay08:15
floydwildealthough I'm still in gnome, i'll try changing users08:15
GS3User007change sessions at the login screen08:15
floydwildehmm i don't get an kde option in sessions?08:16
GS3User007maybe try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:17
floydwildeE: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop08:18
floydwildeis there some repo i need to enable?08:18
GS3User007i honestly have no idea08:19
Daskreechmain08:19
GS3User007i'm not too great at the linux thing yet :P08:19
GS3User007earlier, did you log off, or just switch users?08:20
Daskreech!main | floydwilde08:20
ubottufloydwilde: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories08:20
GS3User007you could also try restarting x, see if that brings kde as a session option08:20
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Daskreechfloydwilde: refresh our sources08:22
floydwildehuh weird, after doing apt-get update things are starting to make more sense, heh08:23
Daskreechyou08:23
Daskreechfloydwilde: Yep08:23
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floydwildei've been using gnome a long while, and thinking to give kde a try08:24
Daskreechok08:24
ActionParsnip1no bad thing08:25
nemedinHi08:30
Daskreech!hi08:31
nukem2525!firewall08:31
ubottuUbuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist08:31
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!08:31
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noaXessi have dd'ed my main hd (on sata1) to my backup hd (on sata2) now the system boots from sata2.. how cani change that, so it boots from my main hd on sata1?09:01
noaXesscan i do that only from bios, right?09:06
dosageyou can set in BIOS what drive boots first, 2nd , 3rd ect09:12
dosagesome BIOS can force a manual selectio n of boot device09:13
dosagemost have a hotkey for boot menue09:13
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HSNewshow to order free kubuntu disks?09:29
faileashttp://shipit.kubuntu.com/09:29
GS3User007beat me to it :P09:31
HSNewshow to request alternate?09:35
HSNews)09:35
dosagehttps://shipit.kubuntu.org/09:35
dosageso you dontget the SSL warning09:35
dosageyou can try here http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu for other releases. might not be free but usually $2 or so09:38
buzzDriveHi, does it exist to analyse graphically disk usage like the tool for Gnome?09:47
elevesoumia?09:50
makronautyes09:52
makronautthere is souch tool09:52
makronautit is09:52
utenteciao a tutti09:54
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makronauttry filelight09:56
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buzzDriveI have trouble when I want to archive files with several volumes what is the best way to do that?09:59
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo10:00
altrortlahello ... it's several days that 8.04 'Hardy' propose me to adjourn to 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope'.... The question is in that way I'll loose my personal setting (such as Samba, Video Card, Source List...etc..etc..) ????10:02
mkalengreetings all, I have a question about how to make a persistent konsole configuration of setxkbmap on kubuntu 9.04. after upgrade from 8.04LTS the keymap in KDE is OK but konsole gets reset on reboot and needs "sudo setxkbmap -layout se -model pc105" to get pipe etc to work on a swedish keyboard10:03
mkalenaltrortla: i did this upgrade a few days ago. requires some configuring but mostly things are kept. samba should be kept, apt sources gets disabled but are left commented in sources.list, some KDE4 programs loose settings but some like digikam can convert/keep KDE3 settings10:05
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lakriggsamba will be kept10:07
lakriggdefinately, dont worry bout that10:07
Haraghello ppls10:09
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MagicDuck1hi, I just installed 9.04. I am having a little problem with the gui fonts for X applications like xfig and xpdf. I can't get them to use nice ttf fonts. Anybody know how to fix this? (fonts show ugly - no antialiasing, hinting - in xfontsel)10:10
mkalenis konsole in 9.04 getting it's keyboard layout settings from udev or what can i configure to force a specific layout?10:10
HaragI just installed kubuntu 9.04 (32bit) and when I use Konqueror to access a website that uses authentication the login/password dialog is not displayed ...is there a setting I am missing?10:11
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souhey10:11
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luciehey!10:12
wiliamciao a tutti10:12
mkaleninput/keybindings in Konsole is set to "XFree 4" but in konsole itself it seems that 9.04 only allows for shortcut editing, not keyboard layout (layout is working in rest of KDE, just not in konsole)10:12
ActionParsnip1!fonts > MagicDuck110:12
ubottuMagicDuck1, please see my private message10:12
luciealors ca y est t'as compris comment ca marche?10:13
ActionParsnip1!fr > lucie10:13
ubottulucie, please see my private message10:13
souça va10:13
soupourquoi tu m parles pas10:13
luciemais si je te parles!10:13
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lucieca va c'est pas trop triste sans moi?10:14
sounon je vis trés bien10:15
lucieméchnte10:16
souréaliste10:16
lucienon  je sais que tu m'aime10:17
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souautant que j'aime Marilou alors10:17
luciesalope10:18
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souje sais que tu m'aimes10:18
lucieou oas10:18
luciepas*10:18
souaprends a parler avant10:19
lucietu te loa pete parce que t'as l'impression de devenir une vrai geek hein --'10:20
lucieet c'est toi qui dis ca!!10:20
sououi c'est mon rêve depuis que j'ai decouvert LINUX l'année derniere10:20
souet counter strake10:21
lucieque l'an dernier?!10:21
lucienoob!10:21
faileas...10:21
souque je l'ai utulisé oui10:21
lucieapprends à ecrire toi aussi hein...10:21
soumais je connaissais avant10:21
faileas!fr10:21
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr10:21
luciegeeeeeenre!10:21
sououi mais toi tu utilise IE ALORS TU PEUX PARLER10:21
lucienon trop as!10:21
luciepas*10:21
luciej'utile FF10:22
lucieAHAHA!!10:22
souque depuis aue tu l'as vu chez moi il ya pas longtemps que tu l'a sinstalé10:23
soutu peux pas mentir assumes10:23
luciemais j'assume10:23
luciefacebook te manques hein?10:24
lucieles tests...10:24
soupas dutout10:25
souce qui me manques c'est fedback10:25
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luciet'as deja tout regardé10:25
sounon j'ai pas regardé les feux de l'amour ni les mangas j'ai fait presque tte les series la moitié des films mais pas le smangas!!!!10:27
lucielabce toi dans les feux de l'amour10:27
lucieau moins tu nous foutra la paix pour au moins 5ans10:28
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HSNewscan't  start XServer )(((10:31
HSNewsI login into console... but when I try /etc/init.d/kdm start10:31
HSNewsit says me Already started10:31
HSNewsalt+1-10 can't help10:31
mkalenHSNews: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors? what's your graphics card (ati, nvidida, etc)?10:36
drbobbhey, would you say it's normal that moving a ntfs partition by gparted takes all night and much of the following day??10:40
pradiphello Room10:43
mkalendrbobb: what's the partition size? i have only resized ntfs rather small partitions (ca 50-200GB) with gparted and this took 8-10h10:43
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drbobbmkalen: it's about 100G, on a 160G drive10:43
mkalendrbobb: do you move it across on the same disk? if so sounds extremely slow... have you checked /var/log/messages for any read/write errors?10:44
drbobbmkalen: and I just requested a move, being careful to keep the same # of cylinders, but gparted after completing the move decided the partition still needs resizing10:45
drbobbmkalen: no disk errors registered, it's a brand-new drive and seems healthy10:46
mkalendrbobb: i think ntfs "bookkeeping" info in the partition needs to be updated anyway, so the resize pass will probably reorder everything10:47
drbobbmkalen: I believe it's been running for 11 or 12 hours, and says 2 hours still to go10:48
Malichi! i did an upgrade to jaunty. now i have problems with the xserver.. sometimes there appears a black screen. i cant get rid of that. also the graphic is very .. i use an ati mobility radeon10:48
drbobbmkalen: in case it matters, the drive's connected by usb10:48
Malicvery slow10:48
Malicis that a known problem?10:48
mkalendrbobb: well that coul be normal, my experience is 8-10h and that's on a pretty fast pata disk, usb would probably be slower10:49
mkalendrbobb: i'd just get a 2h-cup of coffee and give it a wait ;)10:49
drbobbmkalen: there's no reason for usb to be slower10:49
drbobbmkalen: last week i blanked a whole 160GB drive on usb, and it took about 90 minutes10:50
drbobbusb bus is in theory 480 Mbits/s10:51
mkalendrbobb: well, it depends on the specs for the disk (average latency, max transfer rate, your usb bus capacity and so on). blanking a disk just writes nicely from cylinder to cylinder whereas a move across the same disk will most of the time wait for hard drive head moves (the slowest op on a hard drive)10:51
drbobbmkalen: yes I realise that, still I wonder whether the difference isn't excessive10:52
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mkalendrbobb: i think max bus speed is very theoretical in this case, there are not many reads where you would fill any bus type, most of the time the disk is waiting for the head to move or for the disk to accept the previous command10:52
mkalendrbobb: if you read a huge unfragmented file from your disk, then yes, but in this case i think not10:52
drbobbmkalen: right on, that's why I'm saying the bus isn't a limiting factor here10:52
drbobbusb connected drives can work as fast as internal ones if your usb controlled isn't buggy10:53
mkalendrbobb: yep, i'm with you and it's just a hunch that the usb connection increases latency so forget i said it10:53
Malicthe new xorg seems to be incompatible with the ati drivers.. is that right?10:53
drbobbwell unless you compare with the fastest of scsi/sas/fober channel10:53
drbobbs/fober/fiber/10:54
mkalendrbobb: but i think in that case your times compare with mine, i did resize only and this took 8-10h, you are moving the partition as well = should take considerably longer10:54
mkalenMalic: i have ati and can't use the fglrx driver, have to uninstall it and use radeon10:55
zoggyhey, my konqueror favourite folder navigation panel has gone missing for the file management profile, does anyone know which file i remove to reset it please?10:56
kumar!wifi10:58
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs10:58
Malichm10:59
Malicmkalen.. and what is the problem with the radeon driver?11:00
Malicno desktop effects?11:00
drbobbmkalen: ok I see that maybe the fact I needed to change the partition's starting cylinder is what's making this slower for me than it was for you11:00
mkalenMalic: blank or corrupted logon screen, not usable at all. but i have an older card and am not interested in 3d accel so i didn't give fglrx much of a try - the fglrx driver i kubuntu 9.04 is supposed to be compatible with the new xorg11:00
kumar!knetworkmanager11:01
ubottuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up11:01
mkalendrbobb: yeah, i wouldn't worry since progress indication still moves and you have no logged read/write errors on the disk11:01
drbobbbtw the reason I needed to do that is I'm dealing with a bios that doesn't work correctly with >137GB drives, so I need a /boot partition at the beginning of the drive11:02
mkalendrbobb: oh, BIOS-limits, yeah those are really annoying11:02
drbobbI was sort of caught by surprise, that a ca. 5y-old bios would still have such a limitation11:03
mkalendrbobb: no upgrade available?11:05
drbobbmkalen: haven't found any11:05
drbobbit's a hp compaq laptop11:06
drbobbnx900511:06
kumaris knetworkmanager obsolete? I no longer have a menu item for it11:07
kumarand my wifi is also broken atm11:07
mkalenkumar: there is a faq entry for wifi in 9.04, but basically what you do is to add a plasma network gadget to your toolbar11:08
kumarmkalen: ah11:09
kumarcheers11:09
kumarI should have thought of that myself... as I had to do the same thing with my battery monitor indicator11:10
* kumar disconnects ethernet to test11:11
kumarbrb11:11
drbobbI found a recommendation on the web, that when you move/resize a windows primary partition, it's a good idea to change the disk ID in order to force windows to update its registry data about drives and partition. Can anyone confirm from own experience?11:29
mkalendrbobb: resize primary was OK without changing disk id, if you get past boot you should be able to do the same by updating in the win disk manager11:31
drbobbmkalen: I don't quite parse, what is it I should update in win disk manager11:32
mkalendrbobb: i didn't have to update anything, but if you want to go ahead with this tip you found you could refresh the win reg. settings in the win disk manager (given you can boot into it) ;)11:33
mkalendrbobb: probably ot for kubuntu, more windows-savvy folks elsewhere?11:34
drbobbmkalen: yeah maybe, but I presume lots of ppl deal with such issues precisely while installing (k)ubuntu11:35
mkalendrbobb: sure11:36
drbobbmkalen: as for me, I usually deal with 100% linux pc's, so dual-boot issues are not quite transparent to me11:37
mkalendrbobb: have an old ntfs partition with xp for work purposes, but it's getting dusty since i started using virtualbox/xvm on my kubuntu desktop11:38
drbobbI do recall that when I repartitioned my own laptop with kubuntu's installer, shrinking the windows partitions, the process was an order of magnitude faster than what i'm seeing now, and the drive was in fact smaller but not by a lot11:40
dragonspellHi, i have a problem right now with kpackagekit, and i did not find any matching:  (kubuntu 9.04 a64,laptop) when searching a package in kppackaggekit, then theres a error, The package list needs to be rebuilt.11:42
dragonspellThis should have been done by the backend automatically.11:42
mkalendrbobb: shrink can be quite fast if there is a lot of free space as "slack" and no info there11:42
dragonspellWhat can i do? or what is a command for rebuilding package list in terminal?11:43
mkalendragonspell: try "sudo apt-get update"?11:43
mkalendragonspell: need to close kpackagekit et.al.11:43
dragonspell<mkalen> dragonspell: need to close kpackagekit et.al.11:44
dragonspellis therestill apt-get?11:44
mkalendragonspell: sure, try it and you shall be enlightened :)11:44
dragonspellyeah11:44
mkalendragonspell: seriously; you might think of adept which got replaced by kpackagekit as kubuntu package gui11:45
burn___hi all11:45
burn___тут есть русские?11:46
dragonspellmkalen: ahh yeah, now i see11:47
bazhang!ru11:47
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke11:47
dragonspellmkalen: i thing i got something wrong, and i tried to include the packman sources, and that caused a problem in the package cache or something, but now fixed the entry, thanxs11:49
mkalendragonspell: great, i miss adept myself, not friends with kpackageman yet11:53
makronautuse synaptic, it is much beter11:53
matthollyi have an issue with any playing any media file on an external HD. it opens up then starts the file and then closes??  xubuntu updated to 911:55
mkalenmakronaut: thanks. but if i can, i want to avoid pulling in the gnome libs in kde and my (short) experience with synaptic is that it's not as clear re package dependencies as adept was - that's my issue with kpackagekit also11:55
makronautthen use aptitude11:56
makronautit is included by default11:56
makronautfor resolving dependencies problems is the best app11:57
makronautjust do not try to find anything with it ;)11:57
mkalenmakronaut: yep, you're right in console mode i'm mostly on dselect but adept is much better - but it's nice to have a gui at times11:57
mkalenmattholly: xubuntu? wrong channel or speling?11:57
matthollyo i put k haha thanks11:58
mkalendoes anyone know how konsole in 9.04 reads it's keyboard layout setting? udev?11:59
mkalenhave keyboard layout diff between rest of KDE and konsole (the latter needs manual layout reset with setxkbmap after every boot)12:01
drbobbfew things are as confusing as the handling of keyboards by Xorg12:09
racconWet12:14
jaribollocks. anyone know how to get this working on jaunty? Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)12:17
BischoopHi12:18
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iweinhello world?12:23
faileasBOW BEFORE ZOD12:23
faileasi mean hello12:23
iweinlol12:23
drbobbuurgh, if I had known moving an ntfs partition with gparted would take upwards of 12 hours, i would have wiped the disk clean and started over12:29
mkassonhave to install a flash player. your recommend swfdec or gnash?12:30
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ActionParsnip1mkasson: are you using PPC cpu?12:32
mkassonx8612:32
ActionParsnip1mkasson: why not use the adoe one then?12:32
drbobbloading all the xp updates and service packs of the last 5 years is painful, but can be done in 8 hours or so12:33
mkassonfight the power?12:33
mkassonno reason12:33
ActionParsnip1mkasson: fair play12:33
ActionParsnip1mkasson: just curious, I'd shoot for gnash personally12:33
drbobbmkasson: too bad none of the alternatives works very well12:33
mkassonI don't use acrobat reader cause its bloaty.  I assumed their other prods would eb too12:33
mkassonech12:33
mkassonadobe it isthen12:33
mkassonthank you12:34
ActionParsnip1drbobb: hopefully they will get better soon. Or adobe get intelligent and release flash so folks can develop it12:34
ActionParsnip1would a live cd desktop on sufficient amounts of ram eventually run very fast due to th required apps all caching into ram?12:36
ActionParsnip1or am i interpretting the behaviour of the live cd wrong12:38
bazhangActionParsnip1, its doubtful it would work faster.12:38
ActionParsnip1bazhang: but dont the apps come off the cd into the ram disk or do they stay on cd and get copied over as and when?12:39
bazhangActionParsnip1, iirc the first12:39
ActionParsnip1bazhang: cos all i use my pc for is chat, browse, amarok and ktorrent. If I had say 2Gb ram they could all sit in ram happily12:40
bazhangyou'd be surprised at how big the logs can get though especially for irc :)12:40
ActionParsnip1i dont log irc12:40
ActionParsnip1its silly12:41
ActionParsnip1plus its already done for you here on freenode12:41
ActionParsnip1!logs12:41
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - For LoCo channels, http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/12:41
bazhangnice :)12:41
ActionParsnip1so my irc logs constitute a big fat barry white 0kb12:42
victimhow can I open several text files etc in the same instance of Kate?  Konsole (kate *.txt) opens in the same window, but highlighting the same files and right clicking open with kate - opens in separate windows12:42
faileasActionParsnip1: if you use the toram cheat code (assuming its supported) yes. You'd need a REALLY slim distro tho12:42
ActionParsnip1faileas: i always slim my distro down. I have Xubuntu + lxde + ktorrent + amarok at 1.7Gb12:43
faileasActionParsnip1: then its prolly fine if ubuntu supports that cheatcode ;)12:43
ActionParsnip1faileas: with all codecs + flash + dnsmasq12:43
ActionParsnip1faileas: i'll check that out12:44
faileasi know knoppix has that12:44
ActionParsnip1faileas: yeah, didnt think of that one12:45
ActionParsnip1love knoppix :)12:45
faileas;)12:45
* faileas has an amazing memory for apps, so to speak12:45
faileasthen i spend the whole day trying to remember one, which sucks ;p12:45
ActionParsnip1faileas: http://linux.wareseeker.com/Miscellaneous/booting-ubuntu-to-ram.zip/31628912:48
faileasActionParsnip1: sweet12:49
faileason the other hand12:50
ActionParsnip1may as well, got nothing better to do12:50
faileashttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM they link here12:50
faileaswhich i trust more ;p12:50
ActionParsnip1faileas: it links there eventually ;)12:50
ActionParsnip1so will that boot the cd to ram and then run it from there, boot speed isnt a concern12:50
faileas;p12:51
* faileas needs to set up his new box soon12:51
faileasi need to decide what order to install OSes though12:51
ActionParsnip1faileas: just install uuntu, then stop :)12:52
ActionParsnip1faileas: or gentoo, then stop :)12:52
faileasActionParsnip1: naw, Aim is to have XP, Kubuntu OS X and windows 7 on it12:53
faileasthough windows 7 will expire at some point >_>12:53
ActionParsnip1xp and windows 7, bit wasteful12:53
faileashttp://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/D945GCLF2_atom_330/ this is the mobo12:54
faileasI know XP well ;p12:54
faileaswindows 7 is so i don't risk a production system with something i may or may not like ;p12:54
ActionParsnip1i'm not so hot on xp, server 2003 i'm pretty sweet on :)12:55
drbobbActionParsnip1: re free flash alternatives: heh they've been getting better for years and years now12:55
faileasActionParsnip1: i have a copy of 2008. Still, XP i trust a little ;p12:55
ActionParsnip1drbobb: totally. if adobe got a grip and released flash the world would be a nicer place12:55
ActionParsnip1faileas: outside my work lappy, i dont use windows, let alone xp12:56
faileasActionParsnip1: My gaming box is pure XP. my laptop is dualboot12:56
MarkieMark1victim: look at kate -u12:56
faileasalso, i want to get more OSes than a friend of mine on it ;p12:56
ActionParsnip1faileas: no games here except MAME / fretsonfire and penumbra12:57
ActionParsnip1faileas: have a few Gb for each and install a tonne of linux distros and a few BSD just for kicks12:57
faileasActionParsnip1: 250 GB hard drive12:57
ActionParsnip1faileas: then boot windows 3.1 in dosbox12:57
faileasand i can probably image to the 1 tb drive on my main box12:58
victimhi MarkieMark1 thanks12:58
afeijowhat is the cmd to suspend to ram ? I want to add it to cron12:58
faileasActionParsnip1: amusing thing is... that box is essentially a quad core ;p12:58
faileas2x cores + ht12:58
ActionParsnip1faileas: i have no multicores, nearly all my systems are circa 1999 - 200012:59
mkassonActionParsnip1, damnsmalllinux goes toram and needs far less than 2GB12:59
faileasActionParsnip1: i got to c2ds, and that atom box13:00
mkassonand, since you have older machines, it runs real light13:00
ActionParsnip1mkasson: i need amarok and ktorrent. I'm gonna modify the disk13:00
mkassonah if ya need the K then...13:00
ActionParsnip1mkasson: oh lots, i'm jut looking for a project cos all my stuff is working and i can't go out as i'm off on holiday soon so i need an inconsequential giggle13:01
ActionParsnip1mkasson: well, qt ;)13:01
ActionParsnip1mkasson: faileas: i'll let you know how I get on. Could be a chuckle13:02
victimMarkieMark1: with a bit of experimenting the command I need to use is   kate -u %u13:03
afeijoops13:03
afeijoI asked what would be the cmd to suspend to ram, but I got disconected13:04
ActionParsnip1afeijo: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digipedia.pl%2Fman%2Fhibernate-disk.8.html&ei=HZT5SaTfN4OltgffoL2sAw&usg=AFQjCNECe1jfRMeyQ_uzizgiJ4Uohudchw13:05
ActionParsnip1stupid google links13:06
afeijohehe13:06
drbobbafeijo: I knew how to do that with dcop on kde3, I'd really like to learn how to do the same under kde413:06
ActionParsnip1afeijo: just something i bumped into, its not something i use13:07
JuJuBeeI have no sound after upgrade to Jaunty.  Can someone assits me?13:07
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ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: can you provide the output of    sudo lshw -C sound13:07
afeijoActionParsnip1: that command suspend to disk, not ram, but it will help me :)13:08
ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: can you check the channels arent muted and the speakers are on and cranked to 1113:08
ActionParsnip1afeijo: theres a tonne of stuff out there dude13:08
afeijoops, I dont have swap13:08
drbobbActionParsnip1: there is no such command in the default kubuntu install13:09
drbobband I'm not 100% that it would be compatible with ho kubuntu handles suspending13:09
JuJuBeeActionParsnip1: that comand seems incorrect13:09
JuJuBeenever mind, got it.13:10
JuJuBeeI will paste brb13:10
drbobbafeijo: you don't need swap to suspend to RAM, although it is needed to suspend to disk13:10
afeijodrbobb: yeah, but I didnt found yet how to do it with that hibernate cmd13:11
ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: got it ...as in sound?13:11
rrekubuntu italia?13:11
drbobbafeijo: does suspend to RAM work for you with kubuntu's power manager, whatever it's called nowadays?13:11
JuJuBeeNo, got it as in command.  I fatfingered,...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/161403/13:11
ActionParsnip1!it13:12
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)13:12
afeijodrbobb: I think so, I have that option on the shutdown opt, I will test soon13:12
rretanks13:12
drbobbafeijo: you may want to look into the content of package acpi-support13:14
JuJuBeeActionParsnip1: Boy do I feel dumb.... weird that the mixer muted the speakers after update?13:14
JuJuBeeNow, what's up with Amarok?  MY playlists don't show up after upgrade.13:15
ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: i guess13:17
ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: I've seen this around. You could always rename the amarok config files and re-establish them   (cd ~/.kde; find . -name amaro*)13:18
ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: i use m3u files within each folder of mp3s, thus making the playlist :)13:18
ActionParsnip1JuJuBee: i've never made a playlist within amarok due to the text like nature of m3u files13:19
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dhendu9411hello gang!13:30
dhendu9411I need some help installing additional apt sources under kubuntu 9.0413:30
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: ok what have you dones so far?13:31
dhendu9411I have read several articles, but have gotten lost somewhere I am sure.13:31
manuel_hi13:31
luis_hi good morning13:31
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: its hugely simple if you dont use the gui13:31
manuel_good morning too i have 2.pm here ;-)13:32
dhendu9411well, the guide is telling me to go to system > administration > Software sources, but I don't have that in the kicker13:32
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: naaar, thats the lame way13:32
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: all that does is update a simple text file, so you can simply add the line to the text file and you dont have to worry13:32
dhendu9411the quick way would be much appreciated13:32
dhendu9411:)13:32
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: ok13:32
dhendu9411edit the /etc/apt/sources.list right?13:33
ActionParsnip1gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list13:33
manuel_i hear no sound anymore in kubuntu, i tested serval programms and  games and removed pulseaudio but nothing worked13:33
ActionParsnip1go down to the end of the file and paste the repo line you have13:33
manuel_how ca i start to analyse the error13:33
dhendu9411got that so far13:33
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: ok then save the file and close the editor13:34
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: then run: sudo apt-get update13:34
luis_i really can use some help i am trying to configure my epson stylus cx5600 scan feature but no succes till now this how to is the one i did: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471; and i got this at terminal: http://pastebin.com/m338da775; is there a master that can help me out pls?? iam desperate!!!13:34
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: if you paste me the error you get about PGP keys I will give you the command to add the key to authenticate the repo13:34
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: if you havent already added its key13:35
dhendu9411i think i already added it as it didn't give me an error when doing the apt update13:35
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: ok then you're done13:35
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: sudo apt-get install <whatever>13:35
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: or use synaptic / adept / aptitude / whatever13:36
ActionParsnip1dhendu9411: they ALL use that file13:36
dhendu9411I am trying to get the bryce harrington's intel package.  I have been reading some posts on fixing x with intel chipsets.  this was one of the posts I found.  when I try to download the package, it can't be found.13:36
ActionParsnip1luis_: let me websearch13:37
Freyris anyone in here changed from linux on windows on asus eeepc ?13:37
luis_ok13:38
ActionParsnip1luis_: looks ok, you need to run: sudo dpkg -i iscan*.deb to install those deb files13:38
ActionParsnip1luis_: like the guide says13:38
luis_but i already did that13:38
ActionParsnip1Freyr: i moved from Xandros to puppy if thats any help13:38
ActionParsnip1luis_: ok then keep running with the guide13:39
luis_i did follow averything on that gui till the end13:39
luis_ok txs13:39
ActionParsnip1luis_: if you have followed it riht, when you run    iscan    it should work13:39
Freyraction: do you know if there is an irc channel for eeepc ?13:40
luis_thing is that i have been doing this since the day before ysterday and nothing seems to work13:40
ActionParsnip1luis_: looks pretty thorough, you could always uninstall the debs and retry from 013:40
luis_ok13:40
luis_how do i uninstall the debs?13:41
luis_is therea command or something?13:41
luis_cause i have been erasing everything from dolphin13:41
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hanshello13:43
ActionParsnip1luis_: sudo dpkg -r <name>13:43
luis_ok13:43
luis_txs13:43
ActionParsnip1luis_: dpkg -l | grep iscan*   will help ;)13:43
luis_that on just prompt13:44
luis_lets c the first one13:44
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JonDglsHello all13:48
bs_heyho13:49
bs_i've got a problem: which source i need to add to install the beryl driver?13:50
dhendu9411well gang, I tried to install the Bryce Harrington package as stated earlier to resolve the intel chipset issue and that really messed things up.13:56
dhendu9411I uninstalled the package and was able to get into the gui again, but now my attached monitor doesn't work.  Any suggestions?13:57
dhendu9411anyone?13:58
dhendu9411can anyone tell me how to downgrade back to 8.10?13:58
dhendu94119.04 seems to not be for the masses as it doesn't seem like it was tested very well on many platforms13:59
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dhendu9411*tap, tap* is my mic on?14:00
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mkassondhendu9411, your mic is on. (can't help ya beyond that)14:08
dhendu9411thanks for the response14:08
mkassonnp14:08
CerrdorGet:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release [65.9kB]14:10
Cerrdor43% [5 Release 9624/65.9kB 14%] [4 Release 40688/51.2kB 79%]kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update14:10
CerrdorError: "/tmp/kde-cerrdor" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.14:10
Cerrdorhow do i correct this?14:10
MarkieMark1man chown14:11
BluesKajG'Day all14:12
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wtlwhere can i download all the official kde4 icons since 4.0? :)14:12
wtlis there a package for that? :)14:12
mkassonwhat's command line for finding out how much space consumed by a dir?  was thinkning ls -lrs but no14:13
Cerrdorkdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update14:14
CerrdorError: "/tmp/kde-cerrdor" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.14:14
Cerrdorhow do i correct this?14:14
CerrdorOh MarkieMark1 that was for me?14:14
matchbox56chown -R root /rmp/kde-cerrdor14:15
Cerrdorok14:15
Cerrdorok I made a booboo yesterday14:18
panos4everhi everybody14:18
CerrdorI changed all intrepid in source.list to jaunty14:18
Cerrdorthen apt-get update now it wants me to upgrade14:18
Cerrdorso i changed back to intrepid14:18
Cerrdorif i apt-get update will it just install intrepid updates?14:19
dhendu9411is there anyone in here now that can help troubleshoot an attached monitor not working?14:20
Cerrdordhendu9411: how you mean? like a split monitor?14:20
dhendu9411well I am using a laptop, so I have a built in LCD and an external LCD14:21
Cerrdorand you want to use the attached instead of the built in?14:21
dhendu9411I upgraded to 9.04 and my graphics got all messed up.  I read that the xserver was updated to 1.6 from 1.5 and alot of changes were made14:21
dhendu9411I tried to install a driver package from bryce harrington from a post in ubuntu forums and that really messed things up.  I uninstalled it and now, I get graphics again, but only on one monitor14:22
dhendu9411i would like to use either or14:23
dhendu9411well, I would like to use the external14:23
dhendu9411instead of the built-in when the external is attached14:23
Cerrdordang dunno14:23
dhendu9411does anyone here have a dual monitor setup?14:24
dhendu9411does anyone know if I install 8.10 on top of 9.04 if my data will be destroyed?14:25
dhendu9411who is on 9.04 here?14:26
CerrdorIm gonna upgrade in a few14:27
dhendu9411what chipset do you have for video?14:27
Cerrdorintel I belive14:28
Cerrdorim on a barebones system14:28
dhendu9411definitely don't upgrade then!!!!14:28
dhendu9411intel chipsets do NOT work in 9.0414:28
Cerrdorlol14:28
dhendu9411I wish that was posted on the Kubuntu site before they told you how to upgrade14:29
CerrdorIm wondering if I downgrade by editing source.list and change intrepid to dapper will it work14:29
dhendu9411Check out the forums... intel chipsets are having issues.14:29
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luis_i was reading the oficcial kubuntu.org page and also GNU/Linux page and they say that a way to help is to post iin here or any other available channel what the user think about this OS and as i have been reading on differents forums the epson stylus cx5600 scan feature is an issue that has been around for several time, however the developers hasn`t do anything abou it yet, there are some guys in here that has done that on very specific14:45
luis_pc on their own and they do share what they have donde, however theres no one official gui that can help on this, actually is a matter of trying differents how to, so i think ubuntu-kubuntu-xubuntu developers need to move forward and start taking care of issues like this one since is a part of what us, user have been talking about for several time in my case i am new on this system and the theory is great, how people help people wich14:45
luis_is kinnda tru and i am so greatful with does that has been willing to do so, but still developers dont give support for this specific topic even when is old, thank you very much and i really hope developers do start doing something about this issue soon14:45
Piciluis_: To be honest, this channel isnt the place to make suggestions.  Perhaps http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com would be better?14:46
luis_kubuntu.org says it is14:47
luis_OR ANY other available channel14:47
altrortlathere's a pdf converter to cvs?14:48
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luis_but i will also post it on that page u gave me thank you very much Pici14:50
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altrortlathere's a pdf converter to csv?15:04
hagabakaare things in /etc/xdg/autostart autorun by KDE? where does it log error output?15:08
Lornhi, i need to see the xorg.conf files in kubuntu i looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and i only see "Configured Monitor" , how i see the "original" xorg.conf?15:10
geniiLorn: The xorg.conf in there is what the system is using. X uses it less and less now with each release.15:27
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dhuvhello all15:33
BluesKajhey genii, thx for kernel removal advice last night...worked well :)15:35
geniiBluesKaj: Anytime :)15:39
petroagehello15:47
fabubuntuslt15:54
grethelrecherche oovoo16:05
joshua___hey folks, I get unrecoverable lockups where the mouse still moves but nothing else works... I have to manually hold power button to get out... I'm running on a dell inspiron 1525 laptop...16:11
amgarchingif I run "screen" from a "screen" how do I open new shell in the inner screen? C-a c opens new shell of the outer.16:12
canenfirefox has its own built in cairo right?16:12
LinuxApeAnyone having printing problems since their jaunty upgrade?16:13
alnassafiHi all16:17
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vianneyhi16:23
vianney#kubuntu eng or fr,?16:23
somekoolhi ! since I upgraded to 9.04 many of my systray icons are not visible16:26
SandGorgon!fr | vianney16:26
ubottuvianney: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:26
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vianney!fr16:29
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr16:29
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mkassonis there a gui scp tool for kubuntu?16:29
somekoolkonqueror16:30
somekoolfish://16:30
mkassonah it does that too?  cool thanks16:30
anbesawany one familiar with DD-WRT and hotspots?16:32
geniianbesaw: This is the Kubuntu support channel16:36
anbesawgenii: where should I post my question :)16:36
anbesawon IRC16:36
anbesawgood channel?16:36
geniianbesaw: I'm sure the openwrt guys and others have channels here16:37
geniianbesaw: #openwrt has 307 people in it that likely know more about DD-WRT than anyone in here does. If not they'll point to you to some DD-WRT specific assistenace or channel16:39
anbesawgenni.. thanks.. I am already tehre16:39
sachithhai all16:48
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* genii hands sachith a coffee16:48
sachithhi geni16:49
joshua___hey folks can someone help me track down the fix to a serious bug that I have (that has been reported/confirmed) But there are so many dupes that I have no idea what to apply or how...16:49
joshua___https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/33909116:49
joshua___thanks16:49
yao_ziyuanmy kubuntu 9.04 (upgraded from 8.10) has this problem:16:49
sachithi ahve a problem can someone help me?16:49
samdamsamHey guys I was just changing the color of my download speed in the little realtime chart in my system monitor and it worked fine. Then For some reason it said my download or upload speed was zero when it wasnt so I closed the system monitor and reopened it. Now I can only see my download speed, not my upload speed and I cant/dont know how to add the upload speed sensor. Any help? Thanks16:50
yao_ziyuanchinese-named files in dolphin are blank when hovered16:50
sachithhow to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?16:51
yao_ziyuanthe problem can be temporarily solved by going to system settings -> appearance -> fonts and make some changes therein and restart dolphin16:51
sachithhow to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?16:51
sachithhow to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?16:51
yao_ziyuanbut the next time i start kubuntu the problem is back.16:51
yao_ziyuani wonder if a brand-new 9.04 will have this bug?16:51
sachithhow to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?16:55
SandGorgonwhen are the next release of QT 4.5 libraries - I hear they will fix a lot of KDE problems like the screen tearing, etc.16:55
sachithhellooooo how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?16:56
samdamsamHow can I download codecs (mp3) for Amarok?16:56
geniisachith: Please wait longer than 90 seconds between asking the same question. 5-7 minutes or so16:57
mgromanHi, how come when I open a text file created on windows, the spacing seems all crazy?  like nothing seems to be aligned16:57
p_quarlesmgroman: because Windows and Unix have different standards for representing line breaks16:58
matchbox56sachith: other than editing /etc/fstab, don't think theres a GUI16:58
LjL!info tofrodos16:58
ubottutofrodos (source: tofrodos): Converts DOS <-> Unix text files, alias tofromdos. In component main, is optional. Version 1.7.8.debian.1-1 (jaunty), package size 19 kB, installed size 80 kB16:58
samdamsamHow can I download codecs (mp3) for Amarok?16:58
mgromanp_quarles: you are referring to CRLF vs LF ?16:59
sachithhow to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?16:59
sachithpls help me16:59
p_quarlesmgroman: I don't know the specifics; the package LjL mentioned should be the answer to your question, though17:00
mgromanp_quarles: ah sorry, didnt see it17:00
LjLmgroman: yes, he was (knowingly or not)17:00
mgromanLjL: thanks17:00
p_quarlesLjL: I just know they're different :)17:01
mgromanmy question more or less has to do with a subversion repository.. i already set the eol-style to native.  i was curious if thre was anything else that might cause a problem17:01
mgromanthanks all17:01
LjLmgroman: uhm, perhaps it might be the tabs?17:02
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LjLmgroman: if TAB characters are used, they might correspond to a different amount of spaces in different editors17:02
samdamsamHey guys I was just changing the color of my download speed in the little realtime chart in my system monitor and it worked fine. Then For some reason it said my download or upload speed was zero when it wasnt so I closed the system monitor and reopened it. Now I can only see my download speed, not my upload speed and I cant/dont know how to add the upload speed sensor. Any help? Thanks17:02
LjL(which is why source code is customarily uploaded with spaces, not tabs)17:02
mgromanLjL: i see, that makes sense17:03
joshua___folks trying to find a binary package of this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.6.3-0ubuntu1017:03
joshua___but cant... can anyone help?17:03
IrCYopHey, I juyst loaded the live cd on virtual box17:06
IrCYopand it said kde had an error17:06
IrCYopbut now it wants a username and password17:06
IrCYop)-o17:07
IrCYop0_o17:07
u-guardhello17:07
kathryn??17:07
kathrynhello?17:07
u-guardIs it possible to make the cube in KDE 4.1?17:07
kathrynI'm using konversation for the first time and i'm having a lot of trouble with the channel lists17:07
joshua___actually can anyone help me find the very latest unreleased xserver-xorg-video-intel package? please17:08
kathrynis there an easier way to get channel names?17:08
* kathryn is wondering if this is even working17:08
kathryncould someone just say something to me really quick so that I know this is working17:09
robin0800kathryn: yes it is see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.6.3-0ubuntu1017:09
kathrynokay at least theres that17:10
kathrynthanx17:10
u-guardIs it possible to make the cube in KDE 4.1?17:10
kathrynno idea about the cube. Never got it working myself.17:10
kathrynwrong video card17:11
kathrynoh dear this program is meant for kde17:11
kathryni'm using gnome17:11
kathrynno, actually this is easypeasy17:12
kathrynseems to be working fine though17:12
u-guardIs it possible to make the cube in KDE 4.1?17:13
kathryndid you check the forums?17:13
kathryni'm sure someone has asked it before17:13
IrCYopu-guard, What video card do you have?17:13
kathrynidk but its propriatary. I'm still kind of a computer noob17:13
matchbox56samdamsam: close system monitor, edit ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/SystemLoad.sgrd changed locked="1" to 0, reopen and you should see the sensor browser .17:14
kathrynoh I thought you were talking to me17:14
kathrynnevermind17:14
kathrynanybody know any good channels? the channel list is giving me trouble17:14
kathrynlike a political or a freethought chatroom17:15
MarkieMark1kathryn, perhaps try http://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode17:16
kathrynoh thanx17:16
kathrynI pasted the name of the channel (irc:// #python) into the box that comes up when I select join channel, but this did not work. What am I doing wrong?17:19
MarkieMark1you just need to type /join #channelname17:20
MarkieMark1the front page at http://searchirc.com/ has channels organised into categories, too17:21
kathrynthanks markie!17:21
piksii'd love to hear if anyone else is having these kind of problems with their 9.04 kde4: http://dos.pi-xi.net/messed.png ?17:21
piksiit happens both with desktop effects on and off (nvidia proprietary driver in use)17:22
kathrynnope that didn't work either17:22
kathrynwait did it wrong17:22
wirechief!sru17:22
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates17:22
kathrynnope still didn't work17:23
kathrynok almost figured it out17:23
samdamsammatchbox56, yeah I see the sensor bar. Now how can I add the upload sensor?17:23
kathrynwhat does it mean to be "identified"17:23
genii!register | kathryn17:24
ubottukathryn: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode17:24
kathryn<< /nick <ModusPonens> >>17:25
kathrynerg17:25
tzangergood afternoon17:25
tzangerquick uestion -- in kate when I hit tab I get two spaces... the tabulator stuff int he config is NOT set to emit spaces instead of tabs... is there soemthing else I am missing?17:26
* genii slides tzanger a coffee17:26
MarkieMark1kathryn, just remember when they say <name> <password> there's no need for you to type the <>17:26
tzangerheh thanks17:26
MarkieMark1tzanger, is it the width of the tabs?17:26
tzangerMarkieMark1: no it's only two spaces. tabulators says 817:27
tzangernow if I hit tab 4 times, I get the ">>" to show it's a tab17:27
tzangerand it's positioned at 8 chars17:27
tzangernevermind17:29
tzangerthere's tabulators and then there's indentation17:29
tzangerand THAT was set to 2 chars17:29
tzangernot sure what the hell the difference between the two is though :-)17:29
matchbox56samdamsam, Just drag the item you want from the sensor to the panel in question17:29
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ModusTalonsregister <kh2iigrf> <kathryn.panger@gmail.com>17:31
ModusTalonsdamnit!17:31
DragnslcrIs it a bad thing that I set up a RAID mirror with my motherboard's onboard RAID controller, but gparted still sees the disks as sda and sdb?17:32
ModusTalonswhat the heck amd I doing wrong????17:32
MarkieMark1as I say, that should be without the <> around the password ModusTalons17:32
ModusTalonsok thanx17:32
MarkieMark1plus remember the /nickserv17:32
MarkieMark1now you may want to change the password as everyone's seen it :)17:33
ModusTalonslol yeah I figured that17:33
geniiModusTalons: It's better to do all your password/auth stuff in some channel like #NickServ or #ubottu17:34
ModusTalonsok17:34
ModusTalonstest17:34
MarkieMark1Konversation has the default channel Ubuntu IRC afaik no-one notices you there17:35
JuJuBeeAnybody having trouble with amarok?  I can't get it to start now.  Upgraded to Jaunty yesterday.17:35
ModusTalonsSUCESS! thank you!17:37
ModusTalonsamarok is too bulkey anyway, go with rhythmbox or audacious17:38
ModusTalonsamarok is a really bad program impo17:38
ModusTalonsrhythmbox is the best so far17:38
JuJuBeeCan it import my playlists from amarok?17:40
ModusTalonsidk never tried it17:40
ModusTalonsare your folders organized?17:40
ModusTalonsplaylists idk about17:40
JuJuBeeyes folders organized17:42
ModusTalonsthen at least you wont have to worry about getting your music all organized again, even though u might have to make up new playlists17:42
ModusTalonsaudacious is the lightest program, but rhythmbox does podcasts and can take music off of or put music on an ipod or other device17:43
ModusTalonsaudacious is just a playlist editor and a player17:43
ModusTalonssuper fast and light17:43
JuJuBeeThanks.17:43
ModusTalonssure17:43
JuJuBeeJust finished importing my 10K+ songs into rhythmbox17:43
ModusTalonsdang! you work fast!17:44
samdamsamHey guys. I installed kubuntu-desktop and was trying to configure the task bar but now both the clock and system tray are HUGE (horizontally). How can i resize them? thanks17:44
ModusTalonshow'd you guys get into linux? if anyone feels like chatting17:44
JuJuBeeI HATE Microsucks Winblows! as much as I love my wife ;)17:45
noami've read a lot about it, so i just gave it a try. i failed to install the first, oh, three or so distributions i've found...17:46
noamlinux for the desktop matured quite a bit since then. almost no "no screens found, see X.log" messages :)17:47
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samdamsamJuJuBee, Everyone look at me I´m on the Kubuntu irc channel and I hate Windows. I´m so cool. I even fuck the same woman on a weekly basis. I rock!17:47
JuJuBeesamdamsam: Very mature :P17:48
JuJuBeeThanks riddell17:48
ModusTalonsokay, i'm registered, but not signed in17:49
ModusTalonshow do I sign in17:49
ModusTalonswhen the program closes out it signs me out I gues17:49
ModusTalonsguess*17:49
ModusTalonslol I rock even more because I AM a woman17:49
ModusTalonsha! try to find a girl like me! I dare ya!17:50
JuJuBeeModusTalons: you need to tell your irc program to identify you every time you fire it up.17:50
ModusTalonsokay how do I do that?17:50
ActionParsnipModusTalons: look out for g33k_girl17:51
ModusTalonslol they DO exist17:51
ModusTalonsokay so how do I tell the program to identify me?17:51
ActionParsnipModusTalons: oh, totally17:51
ActionParsnip!identify17:52
ubottuYou can identify automatically by using your NickServ password as the server password in your IRC client. When identifying manually, do NOT send the command from a channel's tab, or a typo may give away your password. If that happened, type « /msg NickServ set password <new-password> » in the server tab as soon as possible.17:52
ModusTalonswhat does it mean to use your nickserv password in your irc client?17:53
DragnslcrModusTalons: are you using Quassel or Konversation?17:53
ModusTalonsis that in the settings or something?17:53
demis_ΚΑΛΗΣΠΕΡΑ!17:53
ModusTalonskonversation17:53
noamokay now i don't have sound at all.17:53
noamamarok can play sounds, flash on youtube in firefox can't.17:53
DragnslcrModusTalons: can't remember where it is in Konversation. Gimme a minute and I can check17:53
ModusTalonsi'll look around17:53
geniidemis_:  /join #ubuntu-ru         for Russian17:53
MarkieMark1in konversation it's file -> server list -> edit17:53
Ahmuckhi.  how do you share a printer in kubuntu?17:54
nameinerHi folks, I have a laptop with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD and installed Googleearth on Jaunty 64bit. When I start it the part of the window where the globe should be just flickers a lot and then stops and turns black. Any ideas how to fix that?17:54
MarkieMark1then edit a channel's settings; at least it should be, though I have to say as yet I seem to have to manually type in my passwords even though they are listed in the settings file :)17:55
ioslipstreamI had a 9.04 install of ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop on top of that and everything seems fine, but I'm missing 3d acceleration. i'm thinking i may have removed a package i shouldn't have, anyone know of something to check for?17:55
ModusTalonsok i'll log out and log back in to test it17:55
DragnslcrModusTalons: From the server list, select whichever one you're using, then click Edit17:55
ioslipstreamsystem settings does say that opengl is enabled17:55
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ModusTalonsWTF17:58
ModusTalonsit auto identified in a new tab, but i'm still not identified17:58
DragnslcrModusTalons: From the server list, select whichever one you're using, then click Edit17:58
ModusTalonsI did that I thought17:58
ModusTalonsi'll try again17:58
DragnslcrThen click the Edit button next to Identity17:59
DragnslcrAt the bottom is Auto Identify17:59
ModusTalonsyeah and I put my namme and password into there17:59
ModusTalonsand in a new tab when i restarted the program it did the auto identify thing17:59
ModusTalonsbut it failed17:59
DragnslcrIn Service put NickServ, and then Password is your password18:00
ModusTalonsOH!18:00
ModusTalonsokay i'll try again18:00
ModusTalonsthanx!18:00
ModusTalonsWOO HOO!!!18:01
ModusTalonssuccess!!!18:01
nameinerioslipstream: try "glxinfo | grep rendering" in a Konsole, that should return "direct rendering: Yes" if it works18:03
ioslipstreamnameiner: it says direct rendering: yes18:04
joel_jaskdjhsak18:05
ioslipstreami had the fancy kwin effects after installing, but i started removing gnome packages and now i do not have any effects.  i'm not sure if i removed something i shouldn't have :(18:05
joel_wenas alguien save por que ya no mandan los cd de ubuntu a casa????18:05
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MarkieMark1!es | joel_18:06
ubottujoel_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:06
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draecoslut18:06
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nameinerioslipstream: then you should have 3d running and it is not a graphics problem but a setup/package problem18:07
ioslipstreamhmm, any idea what package provides that?18:07
ioslipstreamthat makes me almost positive it was something i removed when trying to remove gnome desktop stuff18:08
nameinercan you check under System Settings -> Desktop if the effects are switched on? Just in case some removed package switched them off18:09
ioslipstreamyes, they are switched on.18:10
ioslipstreamEnable Desktop Effects is checked, and compositing type is set as opengl18:11
nameinerhmmm, check if the package libkwineffects1 is installed18:12
ioslipstreamOpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GME GEM18:12
pauHola18:12
nameinerit's the only one I find in the packages that says something about desktop effects18:12
paua ver si alguien puede ayudarme con una duda18:13
paualguien habla español?18:13
ioslipstreamyeah, it is installed18:13
ioslipstreamoh well, thanks for trying! i'll do some more googling.18:13
genii!es | pau18:14
ubottupau: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.18:14
pauthank you!18:14
geniipau: :)18:14
nameinermaybe reinstall the KDE meta package it should install all packages that might got lost while you tried removing the Gnome packages18:14
nameinerkubuntu-desktop I think18:15
altrortlasomeones knows a good pdf converter? (prefered to csv)18:15
nameinerI have a laptop with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD and installed Googleearth on Jaunty 64bit. When I start it the part of the window where the globe should be just flickers a lot and then stops and turns black. Any ideas how to fix that?18:16
genii!purekde18:17
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »18:17
makronautnameiner: try to start your window manager without compiz18:23
makronauti do not know a hix18:24
makronautfix18:24
makronautbut it is related to the composite manager of ix18:24
makronautif you do not use compiz18:24
makronauttry to disable all fancy composite effects which are enabled in kde by default18:25
eduardohi all18:26
nameinermakronaut: will try18:26
nanohi18:26
BluesKajmakronaut , maybe the Jaunty kde3 remix is for you18:26
tobiI configured my ethernet device with pppoeconf. While booting my system should connect automatically with the internet. But after every reset I have to run "poff dsl-provider" following "pon dsl-privder" to get online access (with sudo)! Why is that?!18:26
makronaut??18:27
makronautkde 4.2 works fine for me, thx18:27
BluesKajno kde4 effects18:28
nameinermakronaut: that works, but now I don't have effects anymore, I guess there is no solution to have both :(18:28
BluesKajoh sry makronaut , addressing the wrong person18:29
makronaut – Content Management System18:30
makronautnameiner:18:30
makronaut – Content Management System18:30
nameinermakronaut: what do you mean?18:30
makronautnameiner: I do not have this kind of problem18:30
makronautBut I use compiz with emerald instead of kwin18:31
nameinermakronaut: ah, thanks anyway.18:32
nameinerat least I have an idea now18:32
makronaut++ I enabled the workaround settings in compiz18:32
makronautnameiner: in any case, I had the same problems18:33
makronautnameiner: as you, even in compiz, I berlive tha workaround settings have something to do with18:34
makronautnameiner: an additional info... I have an ati graphic card and I the flgrx driver downloaded from their own page18:35
nameinermakronaut: I don't use Googleearth that frequently, so if I don't find a solution I can just switch the effects off before.18:36
nameineris there a new driver package out yet for 9.04 or did you do the manual setup?18:37
makronautnameiner: Yes but you will have the same problem with celestia and 3d games which run in a window18:37
nameinermakronaut: I was just wondering, since I have another PC with ATI graphics18:37
tobiIf there is some kind of command I need sudo-rights for, could it be, that an autostart wouldn't work?!18:38
ActionParsnipyo yo yo18:40
ActionParsnipqq18:41
ActionParsnipif i'm modifying the live cd with this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization18:41
ActionParsnipand chooted to the livecd, if I run sudo apt-get upgrade, will it upgrade the live cd?18:42
ActionParsnipPici: you got a sec dude18:44
PiciActionParsnip: maybe18:44
ActionParsnipif i use the livecd customisation, and chroot into the extracted cd and run apt-get upgrade, will it upgrade the live cd so when its reburned it will be up to date when reburned?18:45
ActionParsniphttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization18:45
ActionParsnipthats the guide i got18:45
PiciActionParsnip: I don't know, sorry.  If you have the time, why not just try it and see what happens.18:45
ActionParsnipthats my plan, was just cuious if you'd done it before18:46
ActionParsnipPici: i'm making a live cd to run purely in ram to make the os groovy18:46
Piciapparle: I added an exception to let you join.18:47
apparlePici : Did you put the exception on my username or my current session??...............Will I be able to connect to ubuntu when I use mibbit next time18:49
Piciapparle: Just your current session. We have mibbit banned due to abuse, if you use a real IRC client you will not have problems joining the channel.18:50
ActionParsnipPici: as opposed to a fake one?18:50
tsimpsonmibbit it not a real IRC client, just like kopete ;)18:51
LjLmibbit is hardly a client, since it's a server :P18:51
theuser1 what are the ports used by irc. ?18:52
sevenhill6667 - 800018:52
PiciFreenode offers access to IRC on the following ports: 6665, 6666, 6667, 7000, 7070, 8000, 8001, 800218:52
Dragnslcrtheuser1: 6667 is the most common18:52
rufong!exception18:52
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about exception18:52
theuser1Dragnslcr: i need to know all. iam going to run irc18:52
theuser1Dragnslcr: i need to know all. iam going to run ircd18:53
LjLoh lord.18:53
Picitheuser1: Then its whatever you want it to be18:53
Dragnslcrtheuser1: technically you can run it on whatever port you want18:53
DragnslcrI think most clients try 6667 first by default18:53
theuser1Pici:  Dragnslcr i need to know . the ports. that most users connect by. or what the standerd irc ports.?18:55
Dragnslcrtheuser1: then maybe you should learn to read18:55
DragnslcrI told you the most common default18:55
theuser1Dragnslcr: ill read ever you type18:55
DragnslcrAnd you've been told what Freenode listens on18:55
theuser1ok18:57
theuser1 6665, 6666, 6667, 7000, 7070, 8000, 8001, 800218:57
theuser1thanks18:57
JuJuBeeHow do I get the Network Manager widget?  I cannot find it.19:00
nameinerI played a bit n the OpenGL settings under Systems Settings > Desktop and then my Xserver crashed and now I can't login anymore. I tried to reconfigure the xorg.conf but it didn't help19:00
nameinerAny ideas?19:00
makronautnameiner: try to rename xorg.conf.failsafe or xorg.conf.original-0 to xorg.conf19:03
makronautnameiner: in ubuntu are those configurations automated, so do not mess with them19:03
makronautnameiner: if you would like to manualy change them, you should try some other hard core distr like gentoo or slackware or...19:05
nameinermakronaut: I didn't change anything in he xorg.conf file itself, just under System Settings19:05
apparleHow to send files using Kbluetooth 419:06
JuJuBeeAnybody?  Network Manager Widget?  Cant find it.19:06
nameinermakronaut: I don't have a xorg.conf.failsafe or xorg.conf.original-019:07
apparleHello guys19:07
makronautnameiner: just do as I said it should work, otherwise you should locate your video configuratin in ~./kde19:10
malik_my kubuntu9.04  crashes and stops responding completely i have an acer travel mate 629219:10
makronautnameiner: you can delete the folder ~/.kde/share/config19:12
malik_is that folder hidden in the home folder19:12
apparlenameiner: what happened19:12
makronautnameiner: but you will loose all configuration for KDE configuration19:13
makronautyes, it is19:13
malik_ok19:13
nameinermakronaut: still working on it19:13
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makronautnameiner: if you will locate the right file you will delete only the needed configutration, do not worry about kde, it will detect the missing files and will regenerate them with default settings19:15
nameinermakronaut: already deleted the whole folder, didn't change much yet, so no big problem and it worked19:16
nameinermakronaut: thank you19:16
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Cerrdorwith the kontact application what can I use to send sms?19:25
Cerrdoror how do I configure it to work with my phone?19:25
Cerrdorhow do I configure kontact to work with my phone??19:28
dag_@all: hi there!19:30
Cerrdorhowdy19:30
apparlehi19:31
dag_I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)19:31
apparledoes anyone knoe how to install open source drivers of ATI19:32
dag_apparie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver , hopr that helps19:34
dag_I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)19:36
Cerrdorhow do I configure kontact to work with my phone??19:36
dag_cerrdor: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6258719&postcount=6/19:38
dag_cerrdor: hope that helps19:38
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Cerrdordag_: thanks im reading it now19:39
dag_cerrdor: maybe this one too http://forum.kde.org/how-to-sync-kontact-with-mobile-phone-t-13025.html19:40
dag_cerrdor: you're welcome! ;)19:40
DashkalDoes anybody know of a way to get a kubuntu system to offer remote logins over VNC?  Completely apart from my normal console login if at all possible.19:40
dag_dashkal: did you try KRDC?19:41
SandGorgonDashkal: umm.. doesnt running vncserver help ?19:41
DashkalI mean connect and get kdm19:41
dag_dashkal: definitely KRDC so19:42
Dashkalkrdc is the client, I'm looking for the server side.19:42
tty17hey guys, I'm creating a custom livecd, how can I change what programs start on login?19:43
dag_dashkal: you can use hamachi19:43
tty17damn bbl19:43
SandGorgondag_: isnt hamachi VPN rather than VNC ?19:43
* Dashkal googles. yep, vpn19:44
dag_sandgordon: yes, but I used it as vnc as well19:44
dag_sandgordon: i had a home-server and i used it from office19:44
Dashkalhrm, will have to look.19:45
dag_sandgordon: the server was running ubuntu hardy and the client was running WinXP19:45
rbrunhuberDoes anybody know how to configure strigi/nepomuk in jaunty.19:45
DashkalI considered making a second kdm instance and using x11vnc, but x11vnc isn't nearly stable enough19:45
SandGorgonDashkal: we used to use vncpasswd to set passwd, vncserver -display 800x600 and any vnc clients19:45
dag_dashkal: you can take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12240219:47
Dashkalvncserver (both vnc4server and xtightvncserver) seems to be lacking some of the X features kde requires.  Looks _terible_19:47
Dashkalleaving me wanting to piggy back off of X19:47
Dashkaldag_: ooo, that looks very promising19:47
dag_dashkal: oops, that was vnc4server19:47
dag_dashkal: but maybe it does the trick19:48
DashkalThis looks like half the solution, though, so it looks like a good read19:49
dag_dashkal: nice to ear!19:49
Dashkalvnc4server has a piggy-back module for X itself.  Which I haven't been able to investigate (the docs wern't all that helpful)19:49
dag_dashkal: shit-happens19:49
tweakedehhey, i'm having trouble with my wireless, I installed some new software and now I can see the wireless networks around me but I every time I try to connect to it it fails. http://paste.ubuntu.com/161137/19:50
Dashkaltrue, but undocumented software might as well not exist.19:50
dag_dashkal: did you tried vnc4server --help ?19:51
tty17hey guys, I'm creating a custom livecd, how can I change what programs start on login?19:51
dag_dashkal: sorry for the stupid question, but sometimes that command reports documents for undocumented software19:52
Dashkaldag_: I found the docs for vnc4server's standalone server, I mean I was having difficulty finding docs on the X module19:52
dag_tty: which software do you used to get the custom live cd?19:52
dag_tty: ah, got it19:52
tty17dag_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization19:53
DashkalI'm not entirely certain of what it does.  It might turn my full blown X into a vnc server (a la x11vnc), or it might just be a video driver (basically making it vnc4server).  I don't yet know19:53
dag_dashkal: please tell me if you learn something new about the matter, I'm interested too19:57
dag_ I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)19:57
Dashkaldag_: Will do19:58
dag_does anybody knows how to install new fonts in konsole, under kubuntu jaunty (9.04)?19:58
DashkalIs it a monospace font?  My custom installed monospace fonts show up fine19:59
xjjkdag_: you can do that through systemsettings AFAIK20:03
xjjkdag_: also, dump them into ~/.fonts/20:03
xjjkclose and restart konsole, the fonts should appear20:03
maxbuona sera20:03
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Guest47269c'è nessuno20:04
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tsimpson!it | maxxx20:04
ubottumaxxx: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)20:04
maxxxnon c'è nessuno????20:05
fokitolkde is beatutifull!!! :-)20:05
davideanyone here?20:09
jimmy51_what's the simplest way to run XP under 9.04 ( i want to be able to launch it, run a few stuipd windows apps, and kill it as needed)20:10
jimmy51_and do any of them support open gl or direct x?  i've seen wine can support autocad, but i've never got wine to work well with anything20:10
nightrowvirtualbox ?20:11
jimmy51_nightrow: i've never used it.  is it a vm?  (and is it free?)20:11
jason_froebevirtualbox, kvm, vmware, pick a flavor ;-)20:12
nightrowwell the linux i'm using to speak here is running inside virtualbox, look like vmware20:12
xjjkjimmy51_: both virtualbox (latest version, 2.2) and vmware support basic 3D acceleration20:12
xjjkthough AFAIK if you want speed, WINE is the fastest20:12
xjjkjimmy51_: Virtualbox (what I use) has both a free libre (GPL) and free beer version20:13
jimmy51_hmm... maybe i'll try virtual box20:13
xjjkand many (including me) think it's faster than VMware20:13
jimmy51_xjjk: does the free support 3d?20:13
jason_froebewine for games and such but if you need ms office or similar, go with a vm20:13
xjjkjimmy51_: AFAIK no not yet20:13
xjjkjimmy51_: er, do you mean free libre or free beer version20:14
xjjkthe free libre you have the source code to (it's GPL) and is included in Ubuntu's universe repositories20:14
tty17I'm creating a custom livecd, how can I change what programs start on login?20:14
xjjkthe free beer version is free for personal, non-commercial use, and you have to add repositories20:14
jimmy51_xjjk: ok.  i'll google virtualbox 2.2 kubuntu repository20:15
xjjkjimmy51_: http://virtualbox.org/, the website is very easy to follow20:15
xjjkthe documentation/etc is *excellent(20:15
RasaWhen I tried to install Kubuntu I got a very small screen with big letters: what can I do to fix it?20:17
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jimmy51_xxjjk:  sweet:  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads  shows the repo's and how to get it20:18
xjjkjimmy51_: yep... I wish VMware supported Debian/Ubuntu this well20:18
jason_froebeinstall virtualbox:  sudo aptitude install virtualbox  :)20:18
jimmy51_xjjk: you'd think they would want to, since there is a growing market for switchers to linux who need a few old apps to still work20:18
jason_froebefor the opensource version20:19
jimmy51_jason_froebe: is that 2.2 with 3d support?20:19
xjjkjimmy51_: I guess they figure their downloadable installer is "good enough"20:19
jimmy51_my apt-cache looked like it just had 2.1 without adding those repos20:19
xjjkbut honestly, who wants to deal with managing when software is upgraded20:19
jimmy51_xjjk: i sure don't20:19
xjjkjimmy51_: yeh, Ubuntu includes the OSS version20:20
xjjkjimmy51_: the repositories on the website are for the commercial version20:20
xjjksee the website about which is best for you20:20
jason_froebedang it looks like 2.120:20
xjjkvirtualbox 2.2 was released after jaunty's freeze so it didn't make it in20:21
xjjkI guess wait for karmic for virtualbox 2.2/2.320:21
jason_froebeonly have to wait until december for karmic's release :)20:21
senorpedrohi folks20:25
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jimmy51_downloading virtualbox-2.2 package now20:26
jimmy51_i'll try it out and see how it goes.  thanks all20:26
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mterenhi is this the place to discuss problem with 9.04 installation?20:45
senorpedrofor shizy20:46
senorpedrojust discuss20:46
mtereni upgraded to 9.04 and couldn't log in to KDE.  instead logged on to console, and startx20:47
mterenanyone else having this problem?20:47
akpoweredhey yo20:49
akpoweredyoyo gangsta crap :D20:49
akpoweredo.020:49
mterenhelp anyone?20:50
akpoweredYO20:50
akpowered:'(20:50
hamithi i have a problem with Cheese Webcam Booth. After i close it, my cam's bulb still lights how can i stop it lighting?20:51
thomas__Hello everyone.  I am having issues with terminal not working on 9,04. Does anyone have a link on how to fix it?20:54
hamitthomas__ try running it with ALT+F220:55
thomas__hamit, konsole brings up blank black screen, terminal saids error creating child process20:57
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hamitany error code or something?20:57
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thomas__"There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" with an ok button20:57
thomas__konsole brings up no message20:58
thomas__synaptic and updates havnt been working either....have to boot computer into console and then get them20:58
hamitdoes everything freeze?20:58
thomas__no20:59
hamithttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=55026020:59
hamityou should have a look at that20:59
thomas__Thanks, will do21:00
hamitok21:01
RasaWhen I tried to install Kubuntu I got a very small screen with big letters: what can I do to fix it?21:01
wirechiefRasa try using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:02
wirechiefjust use defaults for answers21:02
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aaroncampbellI know that for a while, there was a lot of stuff that didn't work on the 64 bit version of Kubuntu.  Is it still a bad idea to use it?21:10
Badger_weird, when i set the resolution and refreshrate through nvidia-settings at 1280x1024@75Hz kde systemsettings shows 1280x1024 auto (50Hz and 51Hz as options)21:10
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Badger_anybody knows why?21:12
BURNIQUISThello21:12
Wolfcastlehello ppl21:12
Wolfcastleanyone managed to run gsynaptics in jaunty?21:12
WolfcastleI get an error message saying:21:13
wirechiefcheck this for setting screen resolution http://www.linuxtutorialblog.com/post/solution-resetting-your-screen-resolution-with-xrandr21:13
Wolfcastlei need to configure SHMConfig in xorg.conf21:13
luigiciao21:16
BURNIQUISThello ppl21:16
BURNIQUISThow r u?21:16
francisco_tHi, Which is the package for krunner?21:18
Badger_wirechief: thanks for the suggestion.however the max resolution is 1280x1024@75Hz Kde is showing the wrong value (and under wine applications show the same wrong number)21:20
wirechiefBader what graphics card and driver are you using ?21:20
dag_hi there!21:21
dag_ I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)21:21
Badger_7600gs with 180.51 driveres21:21
linuxhello21:24
kginsberhello21:26
dag_hello21:27
wirechief!nvidia21:28
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto21:28
wirechiefBadger ^^^21:28
Wolfcastleso any idea have to enable SHMConfig in jaunty?21:29
Wolfcastleto be able to use gsynaptics21:29
Badger_wirechief:  tnx will read :)21:30
justin__i need some help21:30
justin__when i get a system notification no sounds play through my speakers i just get a system speaker beep21:30
justin__anyone??21:31
dag_justin_:hi! try to take a look at Kmenu ------> System settings ------> sounds21:31
dag_justin_: sorry,, not sounds, but Notifications21:32
poetamaledettociao...qualcuno qui e italiano?21:32
justin__ok notifications21:33
justin__i just get the system "beep"21:33
wirechiefBadger is that 64bit kubuntu you are using ?21:33
Badger_3221:33
justin__from the cpu itself not through the speakers.   i can listen to music and watch movies and the sound works though.  it is very strange21:33
dag_poetamaledetto: sono italiano, ma qui si parla in inglese; cerca kubuntu-it21:34
wirechiefBadger ok seems you have the latest driver.21:34
poetamaledettoah grazie dag...io sono pure alle prime armi,e l inglese non e il mio forte.vado l.ciao e granzie ancora21:35
dag_justin_: yes, this is by default: quite good for me, 'cause I hate system bell!!! :)21:35
wirechiefBadger you might get help from here  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=1421:35
dag_does anybody knows how to install new fonts in konsole, under kubuntu jaunty (9.04)?21:35
wirechiefBadger proprietary drivers dont get a lot of support form unbuntu , they like the open source issued.21:36
justin__oh ok21:36
* wirechief looks in his notebook for more notes and cannot find any.21:37
Badger_wirechief: ok i just setup the xorg config for a fixed mode, going to test that to see if it solves anything.21:38
jean99hello21:41
jean99kk1 qui parle le francais21:42
wirechiefBadger_: ok21:42
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Wolfcastlehello21:46
WolfcastleI'm trying to run syndaemon to control my touchpad21:46
Wolfcastlewith syndaemon -t -d21:46
Wolfcastlebut I get this error21:46
Wolfcastlehttp://pastebin.com/m7266abcb21:47
Wolfcastleany idea what's wrong ppl?21:47
wirechiefBadger_: whats the story ?21:49
wirechiefBadger_: if you are still having issues check this thread http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=c0507e3e61c5ad6d12dcd958ad366840&t=4667821:49
Badger_no luck still different values21:52
wirechiefBadger did you compile this driver with the existing kernel ?21:54
aaroncampbellI upgraded to the latest Kubuntu, and now after I log in my screens go white, then black, and I can't see anything.  However, things must still be working, because I heard my E-Mail notification just a second ago.21:58
aaroncampbellI have an nVidia card and dual monitors, and was using compiz-fusion21:59
wirechiefaaroncampbell: how did you upgrade ? with new install or from previous21:59
aaroncampbellfrom previous21:59
wirechiefwas it fully up to date before doing the upgrade ? ie it told you that an upgrade was available ?22:01
aaroncampbellIt told me an upgrade was avaialble.  I'm not sure if it was up to date or not22:01
aaroncampbellwirechief: I used adept to upgrade...22:02
wirechiefaaroncampbell: hmm well that can be part of the problem i dunno were you using proprietary drivers before the upgrade or just vesa ?22:02
wirechiefaaroncampbell: ok well that should be ok22:02
wirechiefwhat graphics card are you using ?22:03
aaroncampbellI was using the Nvidia drivers22:03
wirechiefwhich version ?22:03
aaroncampbellwirechief: they were installed through adept, but I think I had to turn on something first, so maybe they ARE proprietary22:04
wirechiefdoes the /var/log/dpkg.log show that the driver was upgraded ? as you are using a different kernel with the jaunty and the old driver is not compatible.22:05
wirechiefaaroncampbell: well that could be the issue you have, they were compiled for a different kernel than you have now.22:05
wirechiefI would think about uninstalling them and doing a install of the one for jaunty22:06
wirechief!nvidia22:06
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:06
aaroncampbellwirechief: how can I remove them?22:06
wirechiefread the above22:06
aaroncampbellThanks, I'm reading.  By the way, you asked what card.  It's an 8800GTS22:07
wirechiefaaroncampbell: with proprietary when you get a new kernel you need to recompile the sources or get the binary that Ubuntu offers.22:07
webBuilderhere is my question I did upgrade from 8.10 to 9.4 by mistake, thinking that I was not updating the KDE, I really really do not want 4. somehting of KDE how can I can go back to my previous version? my distro is Kubuntu22:08
webBuilderthank you22:08
wirechiefmy experience with other distros that is always the case the drivers had to be recompiled and they always had scripts to do that to make it easier for users.22:08
wirechiefwebBuilder: did you try changing the session before login ?22:09
webBuilderwhat session22:09
webBuilderI"m already in 9. something which even the right click copy of KDE 4. somthing is not working22:10
wirechiefwebBuilder: on the login screen look to the lower left and clik on the icon and follow it to where you can select the session you want22:10
aaroncampbellwirechief: It seems that the links assume I'm in KDE ...I can't see anything in KDE.  Any idea how I could get things up and running (even at a poior resolution, etc) so I can follow these instructions?22:10
webBuilderokay let me try then thank you wirechief22:10
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wirechiefaaroncampbell: did you try the randr command ?22:11
aaroncampbellrandr says it's not a command22:11
wirechiefaaroncampbell: what does randr -q   give22:12
wirechiefaaroncampbell: what does xrandr -q   give22:13
wirechiefoops22:13
wirechiefxrandr -s 800x60022:13
wirechiefchange to the resolution you want and it supports22:13
aaroncampbellwirechief: it says: Can't open Display22:13
wirechiefxrandr -q  says that ?22:14
aaroncampbellyes22:14
aaroncampbellsame thing with -s 800x60022:14
wirechiefaaroncampbell: what does egrep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log    give ? dont flood the channel use pastebinit22:15
powergoalHow do i change the default web browser in kubuntu 9.04?22:16
wirechiefaaroncampbell: are there errors ?22:16
tsimpsonpowergoal: System Settings -> Default Applications22:17
aaroncampbellwirechief: I can't paste off that computer.  However, I can tell you that it gave two things: Uable to locate/open config file *and* open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory22:17
powergoalthank you22:17
wirechiefaaroncampbell: try this and paste the url here egrep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit22:18
aaroncampbellhttp://pastebin.com/f32beebbd22:19
aaroncampbellwirechief: that worked: http://pastebin.com/f32beebbd22:20
wirechiefaaroncampbell: well that first error is the problem22:21
toninhooi22:23
aaroncampbellwirechief: I have that backed up (had problems before) ...Do you think I can just drop it into /etc/X11 ?22:23
toninhoola22:23
wirechiefaaroncampbell: look at thread #5 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113491522:24
toninhooi22:25
Mac42DOHi! I used to spin down the hard-drive with windows with hdparm -y /deb/sdb1, because the hard drive ist ver loud. Since the update to jaunty, ist spins up again immediatly. I shut down almost every process, but it doesn help. What can be the reason?22:25
yms.22:29
vlada_hi22:33
wirechiefaaroncampbell: its possible if you have a backup of xorg.conf you could try it and or google around for other peoples solutions, another here http://koroshiyaitchy.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-customised-for-performance-on-a-nexoc-osiris-e705iii-clevo-m57ru-laptop/22:33
vlada_I need some help with package update in kubuntu 9.04.22:34
vlada_reading http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-beta-3 is clear only to some point22:34
vlada_I've added repository, as said22:34
vlada_but amarok update wont appear22:35
wirechiefvlada_:  did you do apt-get update before trying ? was it free of errors ?22:35
vlada_wirechief: you're right22:36
vlada_W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA96763422:36
vlada_W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems22:36
wirechiefvlada you need to add the keys22:37
vlada_wirechief: how do I do that?22:37
ign0ramusvlada_:22:37
ign0ramusgpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 9423A34CCA967634 && gpg22:37
ign0ramus--armor --export 9423A34CCA967634|sudo apt-key add -22:37
wirechiefgpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 2EBC26B60C5A2783  substitute the right code22:37
ign0ramussorry about the multiple lines22:37
ign0ramusvlada_: you want to run that as a single command22:38
wirechiefgpg -a --export 2EBC26B60C5A2783 | sudo apt-key add -     then do with this22:38
wirechiefsubstitute the right coding22:38
wirechief 9423A34CCA96763422:38
vlada_wirechief: ign0ramus: thanx22:39
ign0ramusvlada_: np22:40
wirechiefvlada_: np fly high22:40
ign0ramuswirechief: whats it called when there's a short command (like -d) that does the same thing as a longer command (like --disable)?22:40
wirechiefign0ramus: ;)22:40
christinahey where do i get a easy guide ?22:41
wirechiefthats just the shorter of the two sometimes one works the other doesnt22:41
wirechiefchristina:  try google for howto22:41
ign0ramuswirechief: yeah, but there's nomenclature that distinguishes the two, and i can't remember what they're called22:41
wirechiefchristina howto whatever you are looking for22:42
wirechiefign0ramus:  check the command syntax with man commandname22:42
ign0ramuswirechief22:42
ign0ramusthanks... didn't even think to use it22:42
skierpageHow can I get a history of package installations in Kubuntu 9.04? (KPackagKit [History] button is, uh, disappointing.)22:43
skierpageSome dog on the Internet told me to install a package, it didn't work, now I can't remember its name.22:43
wirechiefign0ramus: however it takes experience with that man stuff,  just learn to do simple things then the more complex will follow22:43
wirechiefskierpage: just do cat /var/log/dpkg.log22:44
ign0ramuswirechief: so i've found :)22:44
wirechiefskierpage: just do cat /var/log/dpkg.log |name of package22:44
wirechiefskierpage: just do cat /var/log/dpkg.log |grep nameofpackage22:44
ign0ramusskierpage: aptitude search ~i  will also give you a long list22:44
wirechiefign0ramus:   aptitude search ~i |grep alsa22:46
* eagles0513875 starts grumbling22:46
wirechiefign0ramus: ;)22:46
* eagles0513875 starts to swear at konqueror22:47
ign0ramuswirechief: but he doesn't know the name of the package, which makes it tricky...22:47
* wirechief loves dolphin22:47
* ign0ramus hates dolphin, but is learning to live with it22:47
wirechiefign0ramus: if you know the date it can be easier22:47
ign0ramuswirechief: how do you sort by date?22:48
akpoweredyo22:48
akpoweredyo22:48
akpowered:D22:48
akpoweredman ls22:48
eagles0513875akpowered: this isnt the command line to man ls in lol22:49
christinathanks...but i have this problem...get message- could not find a uable proxy???help please22:49
akpoweredxD jk22:49
christinatry to go on google....but cant22:49
akpoweredi only see sort by date :P22:49
akpoweredhe can check himself :)22:49
skierpagewirechief++!  Out of curiosity, do apt, aptitude, adept, KPackageKit, Synaptic, /usr/bin/package-install etc. all write to /var/log/dpkg.log ?22:49
akpoweredhumm22:50
krealhi everyone22:50
wirechiefcat /var/log/dpkg.log |grep 2009-04-1722:50
akpoweredbye :) PS: LINUX OWN.. Particulary Ubuntu22:50
* skierpage is in a maze of package managers22:50
ign0ramuswirechief: aha!  now that is usable!22:50
krealcan you tll me hoxw launch a video cenversation on kopete? (i have kubuntu 9.04 64x)22:50
wirechiefskierpage: check the /var/log/dpkg.log and see if it does when you use those for installing a package, i dont use them just apt-get22:51
Whipper_normally its best to use just one manager.. if you have to do it with gui..22:51
wirechiefWhipper_: yes one package manager, mixing will screw things up.22:52
Dragnslcrskierpage- just remember that the basic package manager is apt (as in apt-get), and everything else is just a GUI for it22:52
skierpageWhipper_ I agree, but strangers on IRC have recommended all of those and more 8-/22:52
* ign0ramus recommends CLI22:52
Dragnslcrwirechief- mixing GUI's won't screw anything up, since they're all just frontends for apt22:52
Whipper_and also, no listening to strangers in irc :)22:52
hggdhquestion(s): what utility collects data on KDE crashes? Is it equivalent to apport?22:52
wirechiefskierpage: well use one not different ones, you'll create a mess after a while because some use different ways of marking22:53
krealcan you help me to launch a video conversation on kopete ?! (kubuntu 9.04 64x )22:53
dag_hi there! does anybody knows how to install new fonts in konsole, under kubuntu jaunty (9.04)?22:53
skierpagedag_, Settings > Current Profile > Appearance > Edit Font... ?22:54
ign0ramusdag_: i have just copied fonts over to /usr/share/fonts and restarted X and generally, they would be available.  There's probably an official way...22:54
skierpagedag_ System Settings > Font Installer22:55
wirechiefDragnslcr: maybe not while your using one version but when you upgrade hold your breath22:55
Dragnslcrwirechief- that made no sense22:55
dag_skierpage e ign0ramus: that's the way to install the fonts sytem widely, and I've already done it, but those fonts aren't selectable in konsole22:56
skierpagedag_, maybe Konsole will only let you select a monospace font.22:56
joshjtlcan someone help me figure out where the patch or the patched version of xserver-xorg-video-intel  from this bug is located?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/35939222:56
Whipper_Dragnslcr: many guis see dependencies etc different than the other, and that causes problems, and thats just one thing..22:57
wirechiefjoshjtl: are you subscribed to the intel bug ?22:57
dag_skierpage: may be...I hope there was a way to use some ttf and otf as well22:57
DragnslcrWhipper_- I've never heard anything about that, and if it's true, there are some broken programs around22:57
joshjtlwirechief: no i can be22:57
DragnslcrWhipper_- like I said, programs like Adept, KPackageKit, aptitude, etc. are all just frontends for apt22:58
vlada_I need help once again...22:58
Whipper_Dragnslcr: i ment synaptic etc22:58
vlada_  amarok-kde4: Depends: libgpod3-nogtk (>= 0.6.0) but it is not installable or22:58
vlada_                        libgpod3 (>= 0.6.0) but it is not installable22:58
wirechiefjoshjtl: search for this repo 2009-04-27 22:30:40 status installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg 2:2.7.99.1+git20090427.e55d9431-0ubuntu0sarvatt22:58
vlada_seems that there are none available22:58
joshjtlthanks a lot wirechief22:59
wirechiefjoshjtl: sarvatt22:59
dag_vlada: sudo aptitude install libgpod3-nogtk22:59
skierpagedag_ ttf and otf should work.  I think there are terminal programs that let you use any font, forcing it to monospace.23:00
DragnslcrWhipper_- synaptic is also just a frontend to apt23:00
Whipper_Dragnslcr: yes, i know, so?23:00
DragnslcrWhipper_- as far as dependencies are concerned, every one of them should just be going with what apt-get says23:00
dag_skierpage: have some clue on where I can find information concerning these programs?23:00
vlada_dag_: No candidate version found for libgpod3-nogtk23:01
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Whipper_Dragnslcr: nope, they do just as u tell them to do, or by default, what is different in each one of them23:01
joshjtlwirechief: i subscribed to the bug, what will that do for me? just notify me in the future?23:01
DragnslcrWhipper_- you're going to have to show some example of different apt frontends handling dependencies differently23:02
DragnslcrWhipper_- I have trouble believing any of them will do anything different from what apt tells them to23:02
dag_vlada: sudo aptitude install libgpod4 ?23:03
skierpageDragnslcr, I'm confused, I don't have apt installed yet the package front-ends work.  And where does dpkg fit in?23:03
Dragnslcrskierpage- of course you have apt installed. If you didn't, none of the package managers would work23:03
Whipper_Dragnslcr: so you are saying, that by default, synaptic and uhm.. some other package-manager treats depencies the same way?23:03
DragnslcrWhipper_- yes, of course they do, because they're all just frontends to apt23:04
Dragnslcrskierpage- dpkg installs individual packages. apt handles things like dependencies and fetching the packages from a repository23:04
Whipper_Dragnslcr: well.. then why there is so many variables u can/have to change or manage in each one of the gui-managers?23:05
skierpageSo /var/log/dpkg.log shows "install alsa-oss", but not which front-end installed it.  Should I remove with `aptitude purge alsa-oss`(or maybe it doesn't matter).23:05
Dragnslcrskierpage- you'll very rarely, if ever, have to use dpkg directly23:05
DragnslcrWhipper_- such as?23:05
ign0ramusskierpage: it doesn't matter which frontend installed it.  they all use apt.23:05
vlada_dag_: that package is available23:05
vlada_but I still can't get amarok!23:05
Whipper_Dragnslcr: arent you familiar with the subject?23:06
dag_vlada: you can give it a try23:06
noaXesshey hey23:06
noaXesswas up?23:06
DragnslcrWhipper_- you just said that you can set different variables, but I don't know what variables you're talking about23:06
skierpageDragnslcr, you're right, I typed `apt -help` and got a "The program 'apt' can be found in the following packages:" message, not realizing it's `apt-config`, `apt-get`, etc.23:06
ign0ramusWhipper_: some of the gui's for apt may have different options, but all they're doing is calling different commands and flags to apt.23:07
vlada_dag_: yup! I did.23:07
dag_vlada: if it doesn't the trick, than you can "sudo aptitude purge libgpod4"23:07
Dragnslcrskierpage- yup, there's no individual program called apt23:07
Whipper_nevö mind..23:07
ign0ramusDragnslcr: "apt is already the newest version."23:07
vlada_dag_: http://pastebin.ca/140894723:07
ign0ramusvlada_: did you run 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?23:08
Dragnslcrign0ramus- yeah, that's the package apt. I meant there's no program named apt23:08
ign0ramusDragnslcr: gotcha23:08
Dragnslcri.e. the programs are apt-get, apt-cache, etc.23:08
vlada_ign0ramus: nope :(23:09
vlada_sudo apt-get -f install amarok-kde4 ?23:09
ign0ramusvlada_: see if that clears the 'broken' status...23:09
wirechiefjoshjtl: they will be making a SRU if this current testing of the fixed packages is successful so everyone will have get updated.23:09
ign0ramusvlada_: no, just run the command by itself first23:09
vlada_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.23:09
ign0ramusvlada_: does it still give you an error if you build-dep?23:10
ign0ramusvlada_: i would imagine it does, but it's worth a shot23:10
vlada_ign0ramus: how can I test it?23:10
ign0ramusvlada_: 'sudo apt-get build-dep amarok-kde-4'23:10
dag_vlada: did you put in /etc/apt/sources.list the ppa.launchoad.net experimental repositories?23:11
ByronI can't seem to get Kubuntu 9.04 installed on my laptop. I used the same CD on my desktop without a problem. I get an error message about the loading of the CD23:11
ign0ramusvlada_: or 'kde4' (no dash) whatever the package name is23:11
DragnslcrHm, anybody else get a terminal type "dumb" in konsole on a new 9.04 install?23:11
vlada_E: Unable to find a source package for amarok-kde423:11
vlada_that's when I try build-dep23:12
dag_vlada: listen23:12
wirechiefByron did you do a integrity check first when used on the laptop ?23:12
dag_vlada: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list23:12
ByronThe error message is: "isolinux: Dis error 10, AX = 4200, drive AC"23:12
dag_vlada: add at the bottom this two repositories23:12
ign0ramusvlada_: i should probably ask... what version of kde are you running?23:12
Byronwirechief: No.23:12
wirechiefByron best do23:13
dag_deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main23:13
vlada_ign0ramus: kde4.2.223:13
Byronwirechief: How? I can't load from the CD23:13
dag_deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main23:13
ign0ramusvlada_: add the repositories dag_ is listing and try again23:13
wirechiefByron you never see grub ?23:13
skierpagevlada_ did you try http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Kubuntu  ?  (I added instructions for Amarok 2.1beta that worked for me.)23:13
Byronwirechief: When trying to load from CD, no23:13
wirechiefByron what about from the other computer ?23:14
ByronThe desktop is running fine without any issues23:14
dag_vlada: are you still there?23:15
wirechiefByron your media could be corrupt, im suggesting a check of it would confirm yes or no .23:15
ByronI tried to connect with the CD/DVD drive I have for my netbook and it didn't read it from there.23:16
wirechiefByron you can also do md5sum /dev/cdrom with the cd in the player and see if it comes up with the correct md5sum23:16
dag_vlada: then you should "sudo aptitude purge amarok && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install amarok"23:16
dag_vlada: you can copy and paste the whole command escluding the quotes23:16
Byronwirechief: Where do I find the original md5 for the CD?23:17
vlada_dag_: I'm trying to follow you23:17
vlada_but I can't copy/paste that fast :)23:17
wirechiefByron did you download from www.distrowatch.com or some other place ?23:17
ign0ramusdag_: wait, he said he's running kde 4.2.2 - isn't the package just called 'amarok'?23:17
andy__can somebody help me fix my sound problem in flash?23:17
dag_vlada: thanks for your consideration :)23:17
skierpageAny suggestions for "no sound in Flash?"  I let Konq install flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer, and I manually installed libxine1-ffmpeg for MP3 in Amarok, but Flash movies are silent.23:17
andy__yeah same here. also imeem does not work23:18
wirechiefByron is it 32 bit desktop or 64bit desktop ?23:18
Byronwirechief: isohunt.com; torrent23:18
dag_ign0ramus: yes, that's what i told him ;)23:18
Byron32-bit desktop23:18
skierpageandy__ are you on Kubuntu 9.04 64-bit like me?23:18
andy__no ubuntu 9.04. accidentally got in ehre but i figured it should be similiar23:19
andy__if i turn up my speakers all the way i can hear a little sound23:19
ign0ramusdag_: but if you see what he's been trying to do... he keeps trying to install "amarok-kde4", which is unnecessary23:19
ign0ramusdag_: i wonder if that is half the problem...23:19
andy__but imeem and myspace music players dont work either. but the flash ads will display on the same page23:19
dag_ign0ramus: of course that's half a problem, but without those repository he should has some bugs23:20
skierpageandy__ , does http://www.skierpage.com/olpc/flash_tests/embed_car_smash.html make any sound?23:20
ign0ramusandy__: i had a similar problem... installed all packages called 'flashplugin' in KPackageKit, and flash sound worked upon a reboot...23:20
wirechiefByron 537a22de1342d5671b7e0070f66a6076 *kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso23:20
ign0ramusdag_: i only have the Canonical repos, and Amarok works fine.23:21
ign0ramusdag_: isn't it installed by default?23:21
Byronwirechief: I tried to md5sum /dev/cdrom, but it resulted with 'Input/output error"23:21
dag_ign0ramus: did you make a fresh install, right?23:21
ign0ramusdag_: yeah, the upgrade ... well, it didn't work.  Yeah, fresh install.23:22
dag_ign0ramus: he seems to be upgrading a intrepid installation23:22
wirechiefByron is the cd mounted ?23:22
Byronwirechief: yes23:22
ign0ramusdag_: hmmm... i thought it would be brought in by kubuntu-desktop or some such...23:22
vlada_dag_: it works23:22
vlada_:)23:22
ign0ramusdag_: huzzah!23:22
vlada_thank you a lot23:23
wirechiefByron do you have a usb stick  ? you could make a startup usb stick and maybe use it ...23:23
ByronSadly, no. I had one, but tried to put Billix on it and failed. The USB drive won't read anymore.23:23
firevaihey everyone23:24
skierpagehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok2 for intrepid says "Deleted in intrepid-release  (Reason: now amarok-kde4)"23:24
firevaiquick question23:24
dag_vlada: that's a pleasure and the spirit of such a community! you're welcome!23:24
dag_:)23:24
firevaii got win and ubuntu on the same hd23:24
wirechiefByron is this a cd or a dvd and if dvd is it a r/w dvd ?23:24
dag_ign0ramus: what's "huzzah!" ???23:25
firevaii'm trying to reinstall windows, and when i boot from cdrom it keeps kicking it back to bio's screen.. where it says to hit any key to boot from cdrom...23:25
firevaiis that grub doing that?23:25
vlada_BTW, what is ubuntu policy on such upgrades? would it automaticaly go into standar updates, or would I need to wait another ubuntu release (9.10)?23:25
Byronwirechief: It is a CD23:25
ign0ramusdag_: an exclamation of victory or happiness, generally only used hundreds of years ago, but is kept alive by the denizens of IRC23:25
wirechiefByron something is not right with that media you should be able to get a md5sum from it. I would suggest you try booting up to it on the working computer and do the integrity test from grub23:26
dag_ign0ramus: is this like a kind of haxxor term that means hurray?23:26
ign0ramusdag_: i have not heard that definition quite like that before, but yeah, same idea ;)23:26
ign0ramusdag_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huzzah23:27
wirechiefBryon just do a menu selection for the test23:27
ign0ramusbrb dinner23:27
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Byronwirechief: I have the desktop doing some work for me right now, but I will ASAP. Thanks for the help and guidance.23:28
wirechiefByron ok good luck23:28
skierpageign0ramus_nom, I did that (just two packages match flashplugin), and no flash sound even after reboot.  Main audio is Creative Audigy ZS, works fine in desktop and Amarok. :-(23:29
skierpageDoes Flash use Alsa/ESS/OSS/ ? maybe there's a configuration at a lower level.  Or maybe it's a 64/32-bit thing23:30
vlada_skierpage: after version 8 they started to use ALSA23:30
cjaeok what am I doing wrong with 9.04 I used the hardware drivers app to install my nvidia driver, and choose separate x screens because I cant stand apps opening in wrong windows but now and since 8.10 I cannot get anything on my tv but and X23:34
skierpagevlada_ Thanks, I'm trying Deleted in intrepid-release  (Reason: now amarok-kde4)23:35
cjaeand I think now that xorg.conf doesnt make a difference now is that correct?23:35
skierpagevlada_ uh I mean http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/TroubleShooting :-)23:35
utenteiuu+23:36
dag_ign0ramus: thanks for your tip23:40
=== ign0ramus_nom is now known as ign0ramus
ign0ramusdag_: what tip?23:41
wirechiefcjae its not suppose to but some users like me with intel have to make special setting to prevent freezes23:41
=== pedro is now known as pedro_
vlada_cjae: do you have nvidia-settings app installed (or something with similar name)23:41
skierpageFolks, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/SoundcardTesting is pure gold for Alsa woes.  In my case unlike Phonon Xine it's using some motherboard chip instead of my Audigy ZS.23:41
ign0ramuswirechief: did you enable the 'greedy' settings in xorg.conf?23:42
cjaevlada_: yes I did sudo nvidia-settings and enabled the tv (separate x screens)23:42
wirechiefign0ramus:  yes Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"23:43
vlada_and..? does it works?23:43
ign0ramuswirechief: i've enabled UXA, but didn't enable 'greedy' ... would you recommend it? (Intel chipset here too)23:43
wirechiefign0ramus: i will give you a link to some good info23:44
pedro_hello23:44
ign0ramuswirechief: well, i've got X using 5% cpu (down from about 45%), now my only issue is choppy flash video...23:45
vlada_skierpage: hehe I've experienced exactly the same problem a few months ago :)23:45
cjaevlada_: me? no it doesnt and hasnt since 8.10, all I get is a cursor with an x, I have also tried to use a copy of xorg.conf that I keep for tv out (svideo) (separate x screens)23:45
wirechiefhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113058223:45
dag_pedro: hi23:45
ign0ramuswirechief: is that kernel stable/23:45
wirechiefign0ramus: ^^^23:45
cjaevlada_: I have even filled bug reports about it like 5 months ago23:45
vlada_cjae: but you have one screen working, no?23:46
ign0ramuswirechief: i was reading that one last night(!), but i don't want to install a new kernel unless it's necessary23:46
cjaevlada_: yes I am using it right now23:46
wirechiefign0ramus: well just wait until they release it23:47
ign0ramuswirechief: how long, do you think?23:47
ign0ramuswirechief: if its in a few days/weeks, i can wait. otherwise, i'll give it a try.23:47
wirechiefign0ramus: have no idea... this is what i currently use : Linux wirechief-laptop 2.6.30-020630rc2-generic #020630rc2 SMP Wed Apr 15 13:20:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux23:48
ign0ramusme --> 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux23:48
ign0ramuswirechief: do you have good playback in fullscreen Flash now?23:48
wirechiefign0ramus: also i have the PPA's for the fixes so my xorg.conf is not really a standard xorg.conf23:49
pedro_i have a compaq cq 60 and i use kubuntu 9.04 the lock botton of the mousepad doesnt work can you help me23:49
ign0ramuswirechief: i've edited mine as well, but only for UXA and dontzap23:49
wirechiefign0ramus: i dont know, but my penquin racer flys like a jet23:49
ign0ramuswirechief: haha!23:49
wirechiefi keep hitting the darn trees ;(23:50
ign0ramuswirechief: i could still revert to my old kernel, right?23:50
cjaeis anyone here using one monitor and one tv with an nvidia card, and in separate x screens mode? in kubuntu 9.0423:50
wirechiefsure23:50
ign0ramuswirechief: also, will using a different kernel employ a separate xorg.conf or will they all access the same file?23:50
wirechieflinux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic  still here23:50
cjaeI used to do this in many distros and now something has severly changed23:51
wirechiefign0ramus: i use the same but modified as per that howto23:51
ign0ramuswirechief: But will booting to a different kernel use a different xorg?23:51
wirechiefign0ramus: also i am subscribed to the linux geeks web page where this first showed up23:51
wirechiefign0ramus: no its same23:52
ign0ramuswirechief: hmm... i just might give it a try... my graphics are glitchy as hell23:52
wirechiefign0ramus: i keep a backup of it just in case i need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg23:52
ign0ramuswirechief: i wish dpkg would give you the option of keeping particular lines instead of just overwriting...23:53
wirechiefi have not had any freezes since applying the suggestions from that thread23:53
ign0ramuswirechief: heh... I'm doing it now.23:53
wirechiefi am currently using uxa too23:53
ign0ramuswirechief: is that all covered in the HOWTO?23:54
wirechiefthe big fix seems to be this in xorg.conf Virtual 2048 204823:54
ign0ramuswirechief: i want to keep my optimizations i've already edited in.23:54
vlada_cjae: I'm sorry that I can't help you :(23:55
vlada_I'm using twinmode on other computer, but that's totally different matter23:55
wirechiefign0ramus:  use at your own risk, the setting for ram is determined by calculation based on my23:57
wirechiefMemory at f8100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]23:57
wirechiefMemory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]23:57
wirechiefhttp://pastebin.com/f3f2a06cf  my xorg.conf23:58
ign0ramuswirechief: wow, that's a full "Device" entry!23:58
* wirechief loaded for bear23:58
ign0ramuswirechief: so this uses the mesa driver?23:59

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