[00:01] <wirechief> Calabero ok this works. can you do pastebinit?  and if so paste the results of  sudo fdisk - >fdisk.txt   where fdisk.txt will hold the information, paste the url here
[00:02] <genii> wirechief: I think you want them more to do something like: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[00:03] <wirechief> genii ok i didnt try that
[00:03] <genii> Calabero: Actually, you are booted to livecd or so? Or the affected box is right now not usable entirely?
[00:04] <Calabero> well it just magically booted up o_0
[00:04] <Calabero> as you said that...
[00:04] <Calabero> haha that was creepy
[00:04] <luis_> mefisto i did all what the page u gave says but still not working
[00:04] <Calabero> im looking at a desktop so uh....thanks... i guess....your voodoo knows no bounds :P
[00:05] <wirechief> Calabero well you can still do the sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit and paste the url here if you want practice
[00:05] <genii> wirechief: Heh
[00:05] <luis_> and after running xsane it goes off and also turn off my scan
[00:05]  * wirechief likes pastebinit
[00:05] <luis_> any ide on how to fix both things pls ??
[00:06] <kris> Hi. Is there a way to submit ideas for updating ubottu's brain?
[00:06] <kris> For example, the link provided in "!intelhda" should be updated to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810#post6589810
[00:07] <wirechief> kris maybe talk nice to the channel operator
[00:08] <kris> wirechief: Ok. Thanks. Unfortunately, there's no channel op at the moment.
[00:08] <kris> Hmm. I remember seeing a link to a webpage that had ubottu's database all listed out ...
[00:08] <wirechief> kris i dont know, sometimes genii is but not sure ;)
[00:09] <wirechief> !index
[00:09] <Dragnslcr> !help
[00:09] <rmrfslash> !love
[00:10] <genii> Apologies on lag, I'm back and forth from the computer
[00:10] <kris> Going to ask in #ubottu-ops
[00:10] <kris> rmrfslash: Hehehe.
[00:10] <LjL> kris: no such channel. there is #Ubuntu-ops and #Ubuntu-bots
[00:10] <kris> LjL: There it is.
[00:10] <kris> Thanks.
[00:10] <LjL> kris: but see !help
[00:11] <genii> kris: You can suggest changes to the factoids by going into pm with the bot and tghen telling it something like: factoid-name is suggested-description-goes-here
[00:11] <luis_> nop
[00:11] <luis_> wont work mefisto
[00:11] <luis_> and again it turn off my scan
[00:11] <genii> luis_: Still no joy with that scanner, eh?
[00:11] <rmrfslash> !botsnack
[00:11] <luis_> no
[00:12] <luis_> genii
[00:12] <luis_> i am getting desperate
[00:12] <luis_> i need to use it
[00:12] <kris> Here we go, syntax to update is: "!no, <factoid> is <fact>"
[00:12] <genii> luis_: After you made the .deb file, you installed it with something like:  sudo dpkg -i filename.deb         ?
[00:12] <luis_> i did follow what mefisto gave me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 stepr by step
[00:12] <luis_> but nothing
[00:13] <luis_> i dont know let mee check
[00:13] <genii> kris:  If you are going to suggest factoid changes please don't do it in main support channel
[00:13] <luis_> yes
[00:13] <kris> Ok. I apologize.
[00:14] <luis_> i did that genii for sure
[00:14] <luis_> i might made something wrong
[00:14] <luis_> but i know i did follow the steps  by
[00:14] <luis_> everythin runs fine till the parte where the editing
[00:15] <luis_> cause everytime i do so soemthing happens and appear a text box saying some about crash
[00:17] <luis_> should i get erase everything and start over again?
[00:17] <genii> luis_: OK. Install packages: sane-utils and libsane-extras        Then fom commandline try: scanimage -L    and put result in pastebin website
[00:17] <luis_> ok
[00:18] <genii> luis_: Also tell if the device /dev/loop0 exists
[00:19] <luis_> ok
[00:19] <luis_> then i do type /dev/loop0
[00:19] <genii> luis_: No
[00:20] <genii> luis_: Do:    ls /dev/loop*            and then if no result, it doesn't exist. Otherwise it lists something
[00:20] <luis_> first appears a big rectangle saying libsane-extras 1.0.19.11ubuntu2 failed to install or upgrade
[00:20] <genii> luis_: Ah, that could be informative
[00:21] <genii> luis_: Does it give a reason why?
[00:21] <luis_> no
[00:21] <luis_> but in this page : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 says that i have to remove that in order to install the function
[00:22] <genii> luis_: Did the other one install ok?
[00:22] <luis_> so i did
[00:22] <genii> luis_: OK, I'll go read the howto you are following and get back to you
[00:22] <luis_> ok
[00:24] <genii> luis_: Hmm, several areas there where it could go wrong. Converting the rpm to deb for instance keeps the redhat pathnames which do not work too great in ubuntu. What part did you get to in the instructions?
[00:24] <luis_> everything
[00:24] <luis_> i went all the way
[00:25] <luis_> do i remove everything and start over again?
[00:25] <genii> luis_: Did it give any errors to you at any stage of the instructions? If so, what were they
[00:25] <luis_> i open dolphin and there are sveral iscan files in there
[00:25] <luis_> yes
[00:25] <luis_> ate the time of editing some crashes box appeared
[00:26] <genii> luis_: Hm, does not sound good for success
[00:26] <luis_> no
[00:26] <luis_> ok how do i undo everything
[00:26] <mefisto__> genii: luis_ pastebin'ed this error with the alien command: http://pastebin.com/m4c062952
[00:26] <luis_> and start all over again?
[00:27] <genii> luis_: Hangon a minute please
[00:27] <luis_> whate rror?
[00:27] <luis_> error'
[00:27] <genii> reading the error pastes...
[00:27] <luis_> ok
[00:27] <mefisto__> luis_: not error, but a warning
[00:27] <luis_> let me erase everything
[00:27] <luis_> and start all over
[00:28] <luis_> and let u knoe step by step whats going on
[00:28] <mefisto__> luis_: wait and see what genii has to say
[00:28] <luis_> ok
[00:28] <genii> The error just indicates that it was attempted earlier to install, and it made the dir at that time, so not over critical
[00:29] <luis_> yes
[00:29] <luis_> i have been trying to do it since this morning
[00:29] <luis_> and several pages give different info
[00:29] <genii> luis_: Is your install on a 32bit or 64bit ? It states at start that 64bit does not work
[00:30] <luis_> i have been following differents how to's without any succes
[00:30] <luis_> 32 bit
[00:30] <raylu> i'm installing ubuntu (getting rid of kubuntu) :D
[00:30] <raylu> and since i need to reformat, i've decided to resize my / partition to 10GB
[00:31] <wirechief> raylu how much can you get ?
[00:31] <raylu> how much what?
[00:31] <mefisto__> raylu: might be quicker to delete the partition and create a new 10GB one
[00:31] <wirechief> when you resize how big can you make it ?
[00:31] <rizzo_> using kubuntu 9.04, what can i use to interface with my ipod, amarok doesn't support ipods anymore
[00:32] <compilerwriter> How does one get plasma to refresh the entire desktop?
[00:32] <raylu> mefisto__: that's what i'm doing
[00:32] <raylu> wirechief: as big as i want, i suppose
[00:32] <raylu> !ipod
[00:32] <rizzo_> ubottu: thanks
[00:32] <genii> luis_: When you issue: sane-find-scanner  -v                       please pastebin results and give us the URL
[00:33] <wirechief> raylu im getting crowded already with this /dev/sda5          /                11953.9   8498.5   2848.1  76%  ext3
[00:33] <genii> Battery is dying. AFK finding charger
[00:33]  * wirechief wishs he had at least 15gb
[00:33] <luis_> ok
[00:34] <raylu> wirechief: oh, i have / and /home separate
[00:34] <luis_> genii here: http://pastebin.com/m676204bf
[00:34] <raylu> anyway, how do i reorder partition numbers?
[00:34] <wirechief> raylu: ok sounds like your good to go.
[00:35] <luis_> its at te end genii
[00:35] <genii> Back
[00:35] <genii> luis_: OK, reading
[00:37] <genii> luis_: Line 84 of your paste shows me it sees the scanner, but that it does not know by it's vendor and device codes what to use to understand the scanner. This indicates that the changes you made from the tutorial where you edit the udev rules did not take, or had typos, or some other issue relating to that
[00:38] <luis_> right
[00:38] <luis_> exactly
[00:38] <luis_> well i think
[00:38] <luis_> so i go to the first editing parte and paste bin to u so u can c it?
[00:39] <genii> luis_: Did you yet reboot after editing the udev part?
[00:39] <luis_> yes
[00:39] <luis_> several times
[00:39] <genii> OK
[00:39] <mefisto__> gene: first post on page 2 of the howto, someone says they changed that edit slightly (but not the same printer as luis_'s )
[00:39] <genii> luis_: Yes, please pastebin the contents of the file which you edited (in the udev rules)
[00:40] <luis_> ok
[00:40] <genii> luis_: According to the tutoial it was /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules
[00:42] <luis_> ok first with this command: kdesudo kate /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf, i got this: http://pastebin.com/m37a2b642
[00:43] <genii> Reading
[00:43] <luis_> i am paste bin al of the editing parts
[00:43] <luis_> thats the first one then ill go for the next one
[00:44] <genii> luis_: Does result of command:  lsmod | grep scanner                  say that this module is loaded? Or just returns to prompt?
[00:46] <luis_> this is what i got:
[00:46] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$  lsmod | grep
[00:46] <luis_> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[00:46] <luis_> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[00:46] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$
[00:46] <luis_> now with the second command kdesudo kate /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, i got this: http://pastebin.com/m1bf9188
[00:47] <ralmar> Hey guys, if I install kubuntu-desktop in synaptic, will i be able to choose if i want to load gnome or kde before i login? thanks
[00:48] <mefisto__> ralmar: yes, there is a menu in the login screen
[00:48] <genii> luis_: The command is exactly:   lsmod | grep scanner                                             <-- note scanner in there :)
[00:48] <genii> Reading next pastebin
[00:48] <mefisto__> ralmar: the default is to login and load whatever the last login was
[00:49] <raylu> ah. using fdisk manually i was able to get the partition numbers i wanted
[00:49] <luis_> now with the command kdesudo kate /etc/udev/rules.d/45-libsane.rules, i did this: http://pastebin.com/m4752599b
[00:49] <raylu> and get rid of my extended partition since i only had 4 partitions total anyway
[00:49] <genii> luis_: The sane.dll looks fine. Reading next pastebin
[00:49] <luis_> ok
[00:50] <luis_> let me do it
[00:50] <holyguyver> I have a question to something that you guys do not exactly support.
[00:51] <luis_> and finally correcting the last command u gave me: i got this:
[00:51] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$  lsmod | grep scanner
[00:51] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$
[00:51] <holyguyver> I installed the KDE3 repository for Intrepid, & then I installed Konqueror 3.5, but it did not create an entry in my gnome menu & I do not know the CLI name to activate kde3.5 Konqueror
[00:52] <raylu> holyguyver: try: which konqueror
[00:52] <raylu> holyguyver: also, update-alternatives -l konqueror
[00:52] <holyguyver> raylu, update-alternatives: unknown argument `-l'
[00:53] <raylu> oh, sorry. --list
[00:53] <genii> luis_: OK, the "scanner" module is not loaded. Do command:  modprobe -l | grep scanner                                   and then if a lot of results, pastebin, if only one line, ere is ok to show the result
[00:53] <holyguyver> raylu, which konqueror gave me /usr/bin/konqueror which activated konqueror kde4 not konqueror kde3.5
[00:54] <ign0ramus> hey all.
[00:54] <luis_> ok
[00:54] <ign0ramus> i'm sure this has been discussed to death, but is there a fix for choppy flash video in Jaunty?
[00:54] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$  modprobe -l | grep scanner
[00:54] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$
[00:54] <tsimpson> holyguyver: konqueror-kde3
[00:55] <holyguyver> tsimpson, bash: konqueror-kde3: command not found
[00:55] <holyguyver> Yet it is installed
[00:55] <tsimpson> ah
[00:55] <luis_> so thats the problem, no module loaded so how can i do that genii?
[00:55] <tsimpson> it's actually /opt/kde3/bin/konqueror
[00:55] <raylu> holyguyver: and the other?
[00:55] <genii> Hm, no "scanner" module
[00:55] <luis_> would that be the only big problem?
[00:56] <raylu> luis_: does your scanner show up in lspci/lsusb?
[00:56] <luis_> lets c
[00:56] <holyguyver> tsimpson, Thank you :D
[00:56] <genii> raylu: sane-find-scanner     sees his scanner but has some odd language error
[00:56] <luis_> genii i got his:
[00:56] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$ lspci/lsusb
[00:56] <luis_> bash: lspci/lsusb: No such file or directory
[00:56] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$
[00:57] <luis_> sorry about that genii
[00:57] <luis_> let me paste bin
[00:57] <genii> raylu: eg: found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [Language Error], product=0x083f [Language Error]) at libusb:003:007
[00:57] <raylu> luis_: um... those are two different commands
[00:58] <luis_> i notice sorry
[00:58] <luis_> first command: http://pastebin.com/m225678cc
[00:59] <luis_> second command: http://pastebin.com/m67caf49f
[00:59] <raylu> is that it in the second paste?
[01:00] <raylu> hrm. lsusb doesn't show kernel modules; nevermind
[01:00] <genii> raylu: s 003 Device 007: ID 04b8:083f Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus DX4450           is it
[01:01] <luis_> the scanner is there in he second command does appear althoug has a different model
[01:01] <luis_> since mine is cx5600
[01:01] <mr_clark> Hi guys. Trying to help out a friend here. He's upgraded to 9.04. He wants to install the restricted format files for his Nvidia video card. However, he's behind a proxy and can't seem to get the system to recognize the proxy. What can he do to get around this?
[01:02] <luis_> God what a hasle!!!!
[01:02] <luis_> sorry for this guys
[01:02] <luis_> i tought it was going to be easy
[01:03] <luis_> so what can i do to fix this?
[01:03] <mr_clark> Why doesn't kpackagekit not support proxies either? That's pretty lame.
[01:03] <faileas> mr_clark: use apt-get -s to find out what packages are needed, download it elsewhere and move it over with apt-on-cd?
[01:03] <faileas> *apt-get install -s
[01:04] <genii> luis_: Please pastebin result of: sudo scanimage -L
[01:04] <luis_> ok
[01:04] <genii> luis_: The main raodblock is that Canon is not the greatest Linux supporters....
[01:04] <genii> *roadblock
[01:05] <luis_> but mine is not canon
[01:05] <mr_clark> But why wouldn't the apps support proxies? it's not like proxies are something new!
[01:06] <luis_> is epson stylus cx5600 and about the command u gave me says:
[01:06] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$ sudo scanimage -L
[01:06] <luis_> [sudo] password for luis:
[01:06] <luis_> Segmentation fault
[01:06] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$
[01:06] <genii> Gah, segmentation faults
[01:06] <luis_> it is a multifunctional, printing function works fine but scanning function
[01:07] <mr_clark> Well, I'm outta here. I'll try helping my buddy out before he puts his fist through his screen.
[01:07] <genii> luis_: I think we need to remove first all the iscan stuff and get the regular sane/scanimage stuff not to segfault and then go from there forward
[01:08] <luis_> ok
[01:08] <ravenz> #overall
[01:08] <luis_> so what do i type first?
[01:08] <genii> luis_: Please pastebin result of: apt-cache policy iscan*
[01:08] <luis_> ok
[01:09] <luis_> genii: http://pastebin.com/m97c474c
[01:09] <genii> Reading
[01:10] <genii> luis_: Your system is giving extremely weird errors
[01:11] <luis_> so what do i do?
[01:11] <genii> luis_: Pastebin instead result of: apt-cache search iscan
[01:12] <genii> I think the last errors were my fault, I don't recall if you can get policy of packagenames when you use wildcard like * ?    or so
[01:12] <luis_> genii: http://pastebin.com/m79c93265
[01:13] <benjamin__> i'm having some really wierd issues with mice since the 9.04 upgrade. I'm having issues with my mouse only intermittedly registering clicks
[01:13] <genii> luis_: OK. So now to:   sudo apt-get remove --purge iscan-plugin-cx4400 iscan
[01:14] <luis_> ok done
[01:15] <genii> luis_: OK. Now we will make sure the sane-utils is proper. So:  sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/sane-utils*
[01:15] <genii> luis_: Then: sudo apt-get install --reinstall sane-utils
[01:16] <luis_> nothing
[01:16] <luis_> just prompt
[01:16] <genii> luis_: Good, no news is good news. Only worry when errors
[01:17] <luis_> it says sane-utils is already the newest version
[01:21] <genii> luis_: Fine, then we do:   sudo apt-get remove --purge sane-utils && sudo apt-get install sane-utils                      This will clean it out, then need to re-download it in case original was corrupt and causing the segmentation fault. Then it should install it again new
[01:21] <genii> luis_: Before that maybe do: sudo apt-get update           To get newest list
[01:21] <luis_> ook
[01:21] <luis_> doing it
[01:22] <genii> Back shortly, require coffee
[01:22] <luis_> uuu ok
[01:24] <genii> luis_: OK. Did it download and install it again?
[01:24] <luis_> working on it
[01:24] <genii> OK
[01:24] <luis_> its done
[01:25] <luis_> i need to tell u something
[01:25] <genii> luis_: I'm all ears
[01:25]  * genii wiggles his huge ears
[01:26] <luis_> i have kubuntu jackalope because i did install kubuntu 8.04 and after updating the system told me that there was a new version
[01:26] <luis_> so i upgraded
[01:26] <luis_> but couldnt c anything
[01:26] <luis_> so somebody told me it was a nvidia drivers issue
[01:27] <genii> luis_: The video drivers shouldn't be affecting anything to do with the scanning system
[01:27] <luis_> so i did the reinstalation and byt the time of the updatung i dismarked the nvidia upgrading and thats how i got to have jackalope
[01:27] <luis_> does this affect?
[01:27] <luis_> ok
[01:27] <Cerrdor> how do I upgrade to 9.? from commandline
[01:27] <Cerrdor> I already changed source.list to jaunty
[01:27] <genii> luis_: OK, so once more issue the command:  sudo scanimage -L                           and then pastebin results
[01:28] <clorofiles> how to make a backup of my programs before install new distro
[01:28] <Cerrdor> can I just do gksu "update-manager -c "?
[01:29] <genii> Cerrdor: Changing the sources.list and trying to upgrade that way will only lead to disaster
[01:29] <luis_> genii: http://pastebin.com/m5574bc07
[01:30] <Cerrdor> ok then what do i do?
[01:30] <genii> Cerrdor: Revert the sources.list back to what you had. then if you are doing this from commandline see http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Ubuntu%20Servers%20(Recommended)
[01:30] <genii> luis_: Reading
[01:30] <luis_> ok
[01:31] <genii> luis_: Good, we're not getting segfaults
[01:31] <luis_> ok
[01:31] <luis_> so we r getting closer right'
[01:31] <luis_> ?
[01:31] <genii> luis_: Hopefully :)
[01:31] <luis_> and also my scanner didnt turn off
[01:32] <genii> luis_: Next pastebin results of:   sudo sane-find-scanner -v
[01:33] <luis_> genii: http://pastebin.com/m7bd590a1
[01:33] <genii> Reading
[01:33] <genii> luis_: Damn, same weird language error
[01:34] <luis_> ok
[01:34] <luis_> u know u r tired i am tired why dont we just continue tomorrw?
[01:34] <luis_> is that ok with u? can i c u tomorrow afternoon and continue with this?
[01:35] <clorofiles> yes
[01:35] <genii> luis_: Good idea. I'm also getting frustrated with this particular scanner, etc
[01:35] <luis_> ok txs a lot genii i do really hope to c u tomorrow maybe this little rest will clear up mind
[01:36] <luis_> thank you very much c u tomorrow
[01:36] <genii> luis_: The main thing is to keep plugging away
[01:36] <luis_> ook
[01:36] <luis_> well c  tomorrow it maybe tomorrow work jst fine c u  txs
[01:37] <luis_> have a nice afternoon and nice rest
[01:37] <clorofiles> see u
[01:37] <luis_> that goes for all of u guys
[01:37] <luis_> bye
[01:37] <genii> clorofiles: Applications get their files spread out all over so making backups of all the components of particular ones isn't all that simple
[01:37] <clorofiles> i keep my /home in other partition
[01:38] <genii> clorofiles: One app might have it's binary in /usr/sbin  other sub-components in /usr/bin, it's config files in /etc and so on
[01:39] <clorofiles> then, is better install again all apps
[01:39] <genii> clorofiles: Yes, so long as your /home is on it's own area
[01:41] <clorofiles> but, i keep the documents....
[01:42] <clorofiles> if i install using sudo apt-get install -f, can recovery some parts of programs?
[01:42] <genii> clorofiles: Sometimes from a failed upgrade that may make the system usable again at least
[01:45] <clorofiles> thanxz genii
[01:45] <batman> #opennms
[01:46] <batman> #join opennms
[01:46] <genii> batman: /join #opennms
[01:48] <ign0ramus> Current weather for  : Temperature: , Pressure: , Wind:
[01:48] <JuJuBee> I just finished upgrading to Jaunty.  How to I get the network manager widget?  It is not in my list of widgets.
[01:52] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee: maybe "plasma-widget-network-manager" ?
[01:53] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee: using APT or appropriate frontend, i mena
[01:53] <ign0ramus> *mean
[01:53] <flector> any Wine gurus?
[01:54] <ign0ramus> flector: more of a scotch guy :P
[01:54] <genii> flector: You might find some in #winehq
[01:54] <flector> before Wine, one stupid question: how to get terminal as SU?
[01:54] <ign0ramus> flector: sudo su ?
[01:54] <p_quarles> sudo -i
[01:54] <benjamin__> sudo bash
[01:54] <p_quarles> benjamin__, ign0ramus: no, sudo -i; those methods can mess things up
[01:55] <flector> totally new to Jaunty, don't see a terminal option
[01:55] <ign0ramus> p_quarles: you win. you always do.
[01:55] <kurumin> configuration aMSN
[01:55] <ign0ramus> flector: Konsole
[01:56] <flector> tkx, adding
[01:56] <ign0ramus> p_quarles: heh... how do i de-elevate after using 'sudo -i'?
[01:56] <p_quarles> ign0ramus: exit
[01:56] <ign0ramus> p_quarles: hence my nick.  thanks.
[01:57] <rgarcia> hi all...Does anybody know any program to unlock encrypted DVD and than copy?
[01:58] <ign0ramus> rgarcia: I'm not sure if that's a supported question, but do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[01:59] <flector> the Wine question... a lot of Windoze apps are doing ShellExecute's to .html files, which fail
[01:59] <rgarcia> i guess not
[02:00] <flector> in Konsole, wine index.html (which exists) also fails
[02:00] <sral9999> World of warcraft - wine: My char  is doing this jittery gliding thing when i move forward with the keyboard. I can stop it by moving to the side or starting movement with the mouse, but it seems like wow/wine dont like me to hold the "w" key down
[02:00] <ralmar> Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic in regular 9.04 ubuntu. but when i try to log in with my main user I get an error saying that my session lasted less than 10 seconds... and I can only log in with gnome on my main user. though I can use kde with another user. How can i fix this or see an error log? Thanks.
[02:00] <flector> how do you regedit or whatever to direct Wine to launch .html files in a particular browser?
[02:00] <rgarcia> how do I install it??
[02:02] <ign0ramus> ralmar: http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-9042.html
[02:02] <ralmar> ign0ramus, sorry but i didnt ask anything related to that
[02:03] <ign0ramus> woops, wrong line...
[02:03] <ign0ramus> flector: http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php?t-9042.html
[02:03] <ralmar> What I said was: Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic in regular 9.04 ubuntu. but when i try to log in with my main user I get an error saying that my session lasted less than 10 seconds... and I can only log in with gnome on my main user. though I can use kde with another user. How can i fix this or see an error log? Thanks.
[02:04] <flector> looks good
[02:04] <rgarcia> ihn)ramus: how do i install libdvdcss2?
[02:07] <genii> flector: Ask questions regarding Wine in the channel #winehq  please.
[02:08] <rgarcia> anybody???
[02:08] <flector> worked absolutely perfectly, thank you (had to add the section though)
[02:08] <genii> rgarcia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu will give you instructions on how to add medibuntu and install the libdvdcss and so forth
[02:11] <rgarcia> thanks a lot!!
[02:11] <ralmar> Any help?
[02:12] <rgarcia> after installing the libdvdcss2, i can use the k3b to burn a dvd?
[02:14] <genii> rgarcia: Possibly. Some of them now however have even newer encryption
[02:14] <rgarcia> mm...but it's okay...k3b can now read the dvd and than copy
[02:14] <rgarcia> thanxxx
[02:16] <rgarcia> another question, is there any program in linux which has the same function of dvdShrink on windows...
[02:16] <flector> why not just run it with Wine?
[02:16] <rgarcia> because the DVD is double layer, and i don't have one...i need to compress it tio burn on 4.7gb dvd
[02:17] <rgarcia> but flector, wine can run perfect?
[02:17] <flector> dunno, haven't tried it yet, should work
[02:17] <genii> !info dvd95
[02:18] <genii> rgarcia: See bot's note on a dvd shrinker above
[02:18] <rgarcia> yes..i saw...thanxxx
[02:19] <genii> flector: Running windows applications in Wine to do something linux can already do natively is a waste
[02:19] <flector> this is true (linux newb here)
[02:20] <flector> liking Jaunty quite a bit better than OpenSuse so far, for what that's worth
[02:20] <genii> Wine also fails miserably on many applications
[02:21] <btcreel> I tried Opensuse, and the installer ate my MBR.
[02:21] <jimmy51_home> hello.  i just put a nvidia pci video card in my wife's machine (it has integrated intel gma 950) but get a kernel crash on boot.  how can i get it to reconfigure video?
[02:22] <jimmy51_home> i'm assuming i need to boot to a non X session and run a dpkg -Xserver-Xorg --reconfigure
[02:22] <jimmy51_home> or something
[02:22] <flector> how do yoou expand the taskbar in Jaunty to two rows?  it's kind of crowded
[02:23] <jimmy51_home> flector:  panel settings
[02:23] <jimmy51_home> right click on the panel, hit panel settings
[02:23] <jimmy51_home> then there's a "height" button towards the middle of the panel
[02:23] <jimmy51_home> click the height button
[02:23] <jimmy51_home> adjust height and click again
[02:23] <genii> jimmy51_home: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg                           usually
[02:23] <genii> Maybe xorg-xserver        I forget which
[02:23] <flector> that just made the task fonts bigger
[02:24] <jimmy51_home> genii: thanks.  what do i edit in the boot menu (grub) to make it boot without X?
[02:24] <genii> jimmy51_home: Don't bother, just use the Single-user (recovery or such it's called)
[02:24] <Eveready> jimmy51_home:  did you switch  the BIOS to PCI instead of the integrated?
[02:25] <jimmy51_home> Eveready: i sure did.
[02:25] <jimmy51_home> i'll try that, genii
[02:25] <genii> jimmy51_home: When done reconfiguring (you won't need sudo in that case)   put: telinit 2                                  to enter gui
[02:26] <skierpage> KHelpCenter in Kubuntu 9.04 has broken help for KInfoCenter > "IEEE 1394 Devices".  Is this obsolete? (it's the only KInfoCenter module listed)
[02:26] <genii> skierpage: Perhaps file a bug at Launchpad
[02:27] <flector> gtkmm... how to install properly for KDevelop?
[02:28] <jimmy51_home> genii: hmm, it still crashed
[02:28] <jimmy51_home> rcS-sulogin main process (4506) killed by SEGV signal
[02:28] <ralmar> What I said was: Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop from synaptic in regular 9.04 ubuntu. but when i try to log in with my main user I get an error saying that my session lasted less than 10 seconds... and I can only log in with gnome on my main user. though I can use kde with another user. How can i fix this or see an error log? Thanks.
[02:29] <skierpage> genii For sure, but is the bug "IEEE 1394 KCM incompletely installed" or "Traces of obsolete IEEE 1394 KCM remain" ? :-)
[02:29] <rgarcia> does abnybody know how do I run superkaramba on jaunty?
[02:29] <genii> skierpage: No idea :) Maybe put something that could be either
[02:30] <genii> skierpage: IEEE 1394 KCM issue                      or so
[02:30] <jimmy51_home> how do i edit my boot entry to not load X at all?
[02:30] <jimmy51_home> or is that what recover mode was supposed to do?
[02:31] <genii> jimmy51_home: Recovery mode loads in single-user (root) so X can't start anyhow. In regular boot X starting has naught to do with anything in grub whatsoever
[02:31] <rgarcia> !info superkaramba
[02:32] <skierpage> genii, will do.  (It was fascinating to learn how KHelpCenter builds its nav.)
[02:32] <jimmy51_home> genii: so my problem is deeper than x config then.
[02:32] <jimmy51_home> genii: should adding a pci nvidia 5200 card cause a crash on boot like that?  (is that typical when adding a video card)
[02:33] <genii> jimmy51_home: Usually you install onto the system in the state it will be and not swap video cards afterwards, etc
[02:33] <rgarcia> !info korss
[02:33] <rgarcia> !info kross
[02:33] <genii> !botabuse | rgarcia
[02:35] <genii> jimmy51_home: It may be the system is trying to use a video output that was not the default before. Did you try yet plugging amonitor in every video output you have on it?
[02:36] <jimmy51_home> genii: yeah.  the onboard shows nothing now.  the new card shows the bios splash, grub, and kubuntu loading screen until the crash
[02:37] <rgarcia> genii: i nobody can help me...do you know how to use superkaramba on jaunty?
[02:38] <genii> rgarcia: I don't use 9.04 or superkaramba, let alone both together. So I'm not much help to you on that.
[02:38] <genii> jimmy51_home: If you yank out the new card, boots OK from the old onboard?
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> trying now
[02:39] <jimmy51_home> i just set it back to onboard video in the bios
[02:39] <rgarcia> ok, thankss
[02:40] <AmReEsH_> #syslinux
[02:41] <genii> AmReEsH_: /join #syslinux                  probably
[02:42] <FoxBlitzz> How come my file dialogs always sort by Alphabet Descending by default? Is there a way to make it sort Ascending by default instead?
[02:45] <jimmy51_home> genii: boots fine without the pci card
[02:45] <Daskreech> FoxBlitzz: Wweird some people got athat bug in 4.2.1
[02:46] <jimmy51_home> genii: i plugged in the card, set default vga to onboard, and it still hangs during boot
[02:47] <genii> jimmy51_home: Maybe boot up to the onboard, do the nvidia driver install process, reboot/disable onboard/enable GeForce
[02:47] <genii> !nvidia
[02:50] <jimmy51_home> genii: ok.  will installing the nvidia driver pack (kernel module i'm assuming) help witha  kernel crash on boot?  it seems like a 5200 pci should already be safe in 8.10 kernel
[02:51] <genii> jimmy51_home: It's my best tactic to try at this point
[02:53] <ralmar> Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop and had a few questions. The thing is lets say I have firefox open on desktop 1, when I switch to desktop 2 I can see the firefox that is open and maximized in desktop 1, but i see it minimized in the taskbar. Is there away to make it not visible at all in desktop 2? Also, with gnome i had shortcuts to jump from desktop1 to desktop2, how can I set those up? Thanks
[02:54] <qiyong> my ssh key doesn't work to a server, it prompts me password? what could go wrong?
[02:54] <jimmy51_home> ok
[02:54] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[02:55] <ralmar> Any ideas?
[02:55] <kris> !hdaintel
[02:56] <genii> ralmar: Usually something like right-click on the window pager gives options like what to show, etc
[02:56] <ralmar> genii its set to only be in desktop 1, but when I go to desktop2 i can see it as if it wre minimized..
[02:58] <Wolfcastle> hello
[02:58] <Wolfcastle> how do I scan for wifi connections in jaunty?
[02:58] <Wolfcastle> I'm suspecting my wifi card is not detected
[02:58] <Wolfcastle> but I am unsure
[03:06] <terrestre> which dvd burner came with jaunty? k3b?
[03:08] <Daskreech> yes
[03:08] <aaron____> Wolfcastle: iwlist scanning usually does the trick. It doesn't seem to be working in jaunty right now, though
[03:09] <Wolfcastle> aaron____: indeed, it says none of my interfaces supports scanning
[03:09] <Wolfcastle> But how can I know if my wifi card has been detected?
[03:09] <aaron____> Wolfcastle: it says the same thing on mine, but I can connect to wireless networks
[03:09] <Wolfcastle> aaron____: And how do you do it, with network-manager?
[03:10] <aaron____> I don't know if this will work but if you kill NetworkManager you might get a better result
[03:11] <aaron____> click on the network-manager icon, select a network, hope it's one of the ones network-manager works with. There are some problems with network-manager, enough that on the kubuntu list they're testing a newer, from svn version of it
[03:12] <Wolfcastle> aaron____: the thing is, when clicking on the network-manager icon, it shows no networks, it just says Disconnected
[03:13] <aaron____> I think, but I'm not sure, that that just means you're not actually connected to a network right now
[03:13] <Wolfcastle> aaron____: ok so if I kill network-manager, what is the other option to use?
[03:13] <aaron____> mine says 'disconnected' but it lists networks
[03:14] <aaron____> Wolfcastle: don't kill network-manager (the KDE plasmoid), kill NetworkManager (the underlying thing it uses that might be messing with your results)
[03:15] <hua> does anyone know how to check on ubuntu if you have a virus or infection?
[03:16] <Wolfcastle> use clam antivirus maybe?
[03:17] <Wolfcastle> just curious here, exactly what programs are specific to kubuntu in jaunty?
[03:17] <Wolfcastle> or are there none?
[03:17] <hua> how do i get that?
[03:18] <genii> hua: From Add/Remove
[03:19] <Wolfcastle> hua: It's in repositories...the package is called klam-av
[03:19] <Wolfcastle> sorry klamav
[03:19] <hua> genii:Thank you! and wolfcastle!!!
[03:20] <Wolfcastle> no problem
[03:20] <genii> Wolfcastle: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/kubuntu-desktop             BTW about your "whats specific to kubuntu"
[03:20] <Wolfcastle> hua: although klamav is the kde interface...if you don't need a fancy interface you can just install clamav
[03:34] <flector> "Other" isn't appearing in the applications menu...
[03:34] <benjamin__> anyone know of a wallpaper changer for kde?
[03:37] <benjamin__> nvm, turns out that it's built in already
[03:41] <Rue-kun> How do you add spacers to your menu bar?
[03:45] <brady> Don't you just slide things around so that there is space between them?
[03:45] <Daskreech> Nope
[03:45] <Daskreech> No spacers until KDE 4.3
[03:46] <Daskreech> Slight 1.5 year oversight
[03:46] <brady> I guess "spacers" is a term I'm not familiar with then.
[03:48]  * genii spacerfies Daskreech!
[03:52] <Daskreech> nooooo I'm not trunkish enough
[03:52] <Daskreech>  I need the gym
[03:53] <triune> anyone kno how to install the vanilla 2.6.29 kernel in jaunty
[03:53] <triune> ?
[03:53] <Daskreech> !kernel
[03:53] <Phil_26> Hello. Can I install Kde 3.5 in Kubuntu 9.04? (during the install process)
[03:53] <triune> who said anything about compiling :X
[03:54] <devilsadvocate> Phil_26: no
[03:54] <triune> i head jaunty would have a vanilla kernel built in as a package?
[03:54] <Phil_26> devilsadvocate, the best would be to install kubuntu 8.10?!
[03:55] <devilsadvocate> Phil_26: if you want kde 3.5, then yes.
[03:55] <Phil_26> yes, it's only for testing purpose. ty :)
[03:56] <dell> test
[03:56] <Daskreech> Phil_26 Yes
[03:56] <Daskreech> Damn it
[03:56] <Daskreech> !kde3
[03:56] <Daskreech> devilsadvocate: See above
[03:57] <kuaera> Is there any way to get around the lack of the ehci_hcd module in Jaunty? I'm desperately trying to get some USB 2.0 devices working to no avail :/
[03:59] <ralmar> Hey guys I just installed kubuntu-desktop and had a few questions. The thing is lets say I have firefox open on desktop 1, when I switch to desktop 2 I can see the firefox that is open and maximized in desktop 1, but i see it minimized in the taskbar. Is there away to make it not visible at all in desktop 2? Also, with gnome i had shortcuts to jump from desktop1 to desktop2, how can I set those up? Thanks
[04:02] <JontheEchidna> ralmar: right click on any empty space in the task manager and select "Task Manager Settings"
[04:02] <JontheEchidna> if it's all full, you can open the panel config bar by clicking the icon on the very right of the panel, and then right click the task manager
[04:03] <JontheEchidna> but anyway, once you are in the settings dialog you should be able to select "Only show tasks from the current desktop"
[04:04] <kuaera> JontheEchidna: You're knowledgeable... Do you have any information about USB 2.0 problems and the ehci_hcd module?
[04:04] <JontheEchidna> kuaera: sorry, I don't know anything about that really :(
[04:05] <liangzhichao> hi,  how to cross compilt a debian source package?
[04:05] <ralmar> JontheEchidna, thanks the worked great. Now what about setting a shortcut to switch between desktops?
[04:05] <kuaera> JontheEchidna: :< I wanted to test out DigiKam with this Samsung S630, but I can't get the camera to be recognized by the computer.
[04:05] <aaron____> ralmar: if you go to system settings > Keyboard and Mouse > Global keyboard shortcuts
[04:06] <aaron____> the kde component you're looking for is Kwin, switch to next desktop and switch to previous desktop
[04:06] <JontheEchidna> I think there should already be "switch to desktop x" shortcuts
[04:06] <JontheEchidna> Crtl + x, where x is the desktop number
[04:07] <JontheEchidna> by default it goes up to 4
[04:07] <ralmar> aaron___ thanks. that worked great
[04:07] <aaron____> ralmar: no problem
[04:08] <ralmar> aaron____,  or anyone else here. Any tips on making kubuntu even nicer looking? Maybe  a dock or some sort of theme (maybe one that looks like mac osx?)?
[04:08] <genii> kuaera: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/linux/+bug/88746 describes this bug. There does not yet seem to be a solution.
[04:09] <liangzhichao> !hi,  how to cross compilt a debian source package?
[04:09] <liangzhichao> !cross compilte?
[04:09] <liangzhichao> !cross compilte
[04:10] <aaron____> ralmar: there are more plasma themes available. If you click on the cashew in the top right corner of the desktop and then appearance settings you can click on 'New theme' or 'get new wallpapers'
[04:11] <aaron____> liangzhichao: do you mean 'cross compile'?
[04:11] <ralmar> aaron____,  will try that thanks. Any way to get a dock? Will gnome do docky work in kubuntu?
[04:12] <aaron____> ralmar: I don't know, I haven't seen one...
[04:12] <qiyong> how to do autostart?
[04:13] <aaron____> ralmar: I'm just looking around but the 'glassified' theme looks nice. It's just a different theme for the original dock
[04:13] <genii> !startup | qiyong
[04:14] <Daskreech> JontheEchidna: That's ^Fx
[04:14] <Daskreech> and by default it goes up to 2
[04:14] <liangzhichao> aaron____yes, i want to cross-compilte a debian source package?
[04:14] <liangzhichao> aaron____:  yes, i want to cross-compilte a debian source package?
[04:14] <kuaera> genii: Thanks for the info...though it's disheartening to see that this has been broken so many times before and varies between being fixed, broken, and "won't fix" :<
[04:15] <aaron____> liangzhichao: I don't know how to do that but I don't think there's supposed to be a 't' in compile. It might help you find some more information
[04:15] <qiyong> gene: my k menu doesn't have 'Save Session'
[04:16] <genii> kuaera: I usually remain with the long-term-support versions for these sort of reasons
[04:16] <kuaera> genii: The bug also suggests that the bug affects older versions of ubuntu with updated kernels >_>
[04:17] <cathcom> hola
[04:17] <cathcom> alquien habla espanol
[04:17] <JontheEchidna> !es | cathcom
[04:17] <liangzhichao> aaron____:  thanks any way
[04:17] <cathcom> gracias
[04:17] <aaron____> you're welcome
[04:18] <genii> kuaera: I'm not noticing it on my 8.04 with 2.6.24-24-generic yet, luckily
[04:18] <cathcom> bye
[04:19] <digdeep> does anyone has problems to watch youtube (e.g. no sound at all)?
[04:20] <kuaera> genii: 2.6.28-11 here, so.
[04:26] <Daskreech> digdeep:  I don't
[04:27] <digdeep> Daskreech: r u using jaunty?
[04:27] <Daskreech> Si but Firefox
[04:37] <crzyboi> hello, could someone help me out with install vmware workstation in 9.04
[04:37] <crzyboi> i cnt seem to get it to work
[04:43] <Phil_26> Hello. Is it possible to restart a kde box with a console command?
[04:43] <DarthFrog> Yep.  "sudo reboot"
[04:44] <Phil_26> work, thx
[04:45] <DarthFrog> Or if you do it from an Alt-F2 mini-CLI, "kdesudo reboot".
[04:46] <Daskreech> It's still sudo reboot
[04:46] <DarthFrog> And how do you enter the password then?
[04:46] <Daskreech> You only use kdesudo if the final command ends up in a GUI application
[04:46] <DarthFrog> Ah.
[04:46] <Daskreech> Run in terminal ? :)
[04:46] <Daskreech> Phil_26: Oh You were asking if you can install KDE3 ?
[04:46] <DarthFrog> Run in terminal.  Funny guy. :-)
[04:47] <Daskreech> !vmware
[04:47] <DarthFrog> VMWare Workstation 6.5.2 runs just fine in Jaunty.
[04:47] <DarthFrog> Knetworkmanager doesn't, though.  P.O.S.
[04:47] <Phil_26> yes I just installed Kubuntu 8.04 on a VMWare virtual machine. I am still wondering how to reboot my box
[04:48] <Phil_26> sudo reboot work locally but don't work on my box, I think it is running debian
[04:48] <DarthFrog> Phil_26: It doesn't work in the virtual machine?  Or the real machine?
[04:48] <Phil_26> I mean it work on the Virtual Machine but don't work with my server
[04:49] <DarthFrog> Is it running Ubuntu?
[04:49] <Phil_26> i'm pretty sure it is running debian 4
[04:49] <DarthFrog> Do you have a root password on that machine?
[04:49] <Phil_26> no
[04:50] <genii> Good
[04:50] <DarthFrog> Ah, then you'll have to set up the /etc/sudoers file to allow you to use sudo.  It would seem that Debian and Ubuntu differ in that regard.
[04:50] <princedugan> how would I go about getting my Intel Corporation 82852/855GM card to output S-Video ? It doesn't show as an option in xrandr -q
[04:51] <DarthFrog> Have you tried it to see if its doing it already?
[04:53] <Phil_26> the sudo is not working no. I will ask the admin I think so :P
[04:54] <jimmy51_home> genii: i thought i had something going.  i updated to 9.04, added the card, clicked to activate the NVidia proprietary drivers, and .....
[04:54] <jimmy51_home> X quit loading... i got a terminal with a blinking screen
[04:55] <jimmy51_home> i think i'm going to give up on the nvidia card and stick with the integrated gma 950
[04:55] <Daskreech> !kde3 | Phil_26
[04:55] <genii> jimmy51_home: Can you get to another console with ctrl-alt-f1 or so?  Also may be switching at that point to the other card for default output
[04:56] <jimmy51_home> yeah, i got to other terminals
[04:56] <jimmy51_home> none of them would start X server
[04:56] <jimmy51_home> now i just get seg faults
[04:57] <genii> Bleh
[04:57] <genii> jimmy51_home: I'm out of immediate ideas on it
[04:57] <jimmy51_home> bleh is right
[04:57] <jimmy51_home> me too :)
[04:57] <jimmy51_home> other than unplug and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg with out it
[04:58] <jimmy51_home> my 8800 gt went smoothly.  too bad this 5200 on my wife's machine isn't.  no compiz for her!
[05:00] <DarthFrog> !knetworkmanager
[05:00] <jimmy51_home> !desktopeffects
[05:00] <jimmy51_home> !compiz
[05:01] <faileas> gah...
[05:01] <faileas> what's the trigger for unlocking apt? ;p
[05:01] <faileas> !apt
[05:01] <faileas> !aptunlock
[05:01] <DarthFrog> faileas: If it's locked, then something is using it.
[05:01] <digdeep> is there any way to stop nfts to ask password after each boot
[05:01] <faileas> DarthFrog: borked install process
[05:01] <faileas> so i want to unlock it
[05:02] <DarthFrog> Delete the lock file.
[05:02] <faileas> and... where is that?
[05:03] <DarthFrog> Try /var/run.  I'm not sure, it's been a long time since I last looked for it.
[05:03] <kuaera> Hmm. I no longer have an xorg.conf file in jaunty, as the autoconfiguration has been perfectly fine; however, OpenGL acceration has been slow, with window compositing being unusable. [All this with the ati driver] Where may I find resources for finding which X modules may help my speed and how to alter the autoconfiguration process without recreating xorg.conf?
[05:04] <DarthFrog> kuaera: Now there's a good question.   I'd like to know that myself.
[05:05] <kuaera> DarthFrog: Have you done anything with altering the autoconfiguration before? I changed the settings for my touchpad to disable "sidescrolling" and enable "two-finger scrolling"
[05:06] <DarthFrog> kuaera: Nothing, other than editing the xorg.conf file.
[05:06] <kuaera> DarthFrog: As far as I can recall, the autoconfiguration stuff uses the same terms as the xorg.conf file does, but inside an XML syntax
[05:06] <DarthFrog> So far <knock on wooden head> autoconfiguration has worked for me, on the machines that Jaunty has been able to run on.
[05:08] <bootsmorris> hi all
[05:08] <DarthFrog> I have one machine, that runs Fedora 9 just fine, that Jaunty segfaults everytime about 10 secs after authenticating with KDM or GDM.
[05:08] <kuaera> DarthFrog: Yuck :/
[05:09] <bootsmorris> on my jaunty it randomly freezes
[05:09] <Daskreech> !adeptfix | faileas
[05:09] <faileas> Daskreech: thanks ^^
[05:09] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: Have you run the memtest utility to see if your RAM is OK?
[05:09] <kuaera> DarthFrog: /etc/hal/fdi/ seems to contain the FDI files for HAL autoconfiguration
[05:09] <bootsmorris> yea the ram is fine.  i can run 8.10 perfectly and windows xp/vista no prob
[05:10] <kuaera> DarthFrog: I have a modified policy/synaptics-prefs.fdi file, if you're interested :P
[05:11] <DarthFrog> kuaera: Tnx, but I don't want to go there yet. :-)
[05:11] <bootsmorris> idk what the prob is.  i wish i knew how to fix it.  is definately the best ubuntu yet
[05:12] <benjamin__> can anyone tell me what the keyboard command is to switch between multiple desktops?
[05:12] <DarthFrog> Ubuntu Jaunty is excellent.  Kubuntu is mostly execellent.  Knetworkmanager simply does not work.
[05:12] <bootsmorris> network manager sucks.  i use wifi radar
[05:13] <DarthFrog> Wifi radar?  What's that?
[05:14] <DarthFrog> benjamin__: CTL-F1 to CTL-F<whatever the highest number desktop is>
[05:14] <benjamin__> DarthFrog: awesome, thanks!
[05:14] <bootsmorris> it is a wireless network connection manager.  i used to use it in gnome.  my knetworkmanager is working for me at the moment so i havent gotten it yet.  it has worked well for me in the past
[05:15] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: Installing it now, tnx.
[05:15] <bootsmorris> ur welcome
[05:15] <bootsmorris> there is another one but idk what it is called
[05:16] <bootsmorris> there is another one but idk what it is called cd when my screwed up on me so i have to do the whole dist upgrade thing
[05:16] <bootsmorris> idk what happened there..  sorry
[05:18] <luis_> hi good nigth again
[05:19] <bootsmorris> DarthFrog  is it working for ya
[05:19] <luis_> question: how do i uncomment a line or what does that means???
[05:19] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: No.
[05:19] <bootsmorris> you uncomment it by removing the pound signs that are in front of it
[05:19] <bootsmorris> DarthFrog  really???
[05:19] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: Not to worry, I don't really need it.
[05:20] <bootsmorris> DarthFrog  that is interesting.  any error messages??
[05:20] <luis_> ok thanks a lot
[05:21] <bootsmorris> DarthFrog  how are you turning what you are saying to me red??
[05:21] <luis_> do i haaave to do so on every line where that file appears or just the first line?
[05:21] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: Yeah, no wpa_supplicant.conf file and a permissions denied when trying to create the dhcp.leases file, It's running under sudo so I'm surprised about the permissions issue.
[05:22] <bootsmorris> that is weird.  hmmmm.  i know you have to have the wpa thing and it is prob just freaking out about that
[05:22] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: :-)  I'm not doing it.  Quassel is doing it; it's highlighting lines with your nick in them.
[05:22] <bootsmorris> will konversation do that
[05:23] <DarthFrog> I imagine it could be configured to do so.
[05:23] <DarthFrog> And I imagine that it could be turned off in Quassel.
[05:23] <bootsmorris> does anyone know how to do this??
[05:23] <DarthFrog> Guest16059: Running as root is dumb.
[05:23] <terrestre> am on ubuntu sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop will install kde4 or kde3?
[05:23] <Daskreech> in a GUI
[05:24] <bootsmorris> luis_ all of the ones you want to uncomment
[05:24] <Daskreech> terrestre: Which release of Ubuntu ?
[05:24] <terrestre> 9.04
[05:24] <DarthFrog> terrestre: KDE 4.2.2
[05:24] <terrestre> DarkriftX, thx :)
[05:24] <Daskreech> If you want KDE3 it's available
[05:24] <bootsmorris> DarthFrog  do you know how to make konversation do that
[05:25] <Daskreech> in a semi official manner
[05:25] <DarthFrog> bootsmorris: I'd look through the configuration settings and see what joy I could find there.
[05:25] <terrestre> is for a guy in ubuntu, he want to try kubuntu
[05:26] <terrestre> k3b is still using kde3 libs right?
[05:26] <bootsmorris> DarthFrog i just did that.  no luck
[05:26] <DarthFrog> With the release of KDE 4.2, why would anyone want to run KDE3?
[05:27] <DarthFrog> terrestre: I think so.  I think K3B is one of the apps that hasn't yet been ported to KDE4.
[05:27] <luis_> well that i dont know i am trying to install my epson stylus scan feature and following this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471 it gets to a path where i need to edit and rigth into the directory says: uncomment the following line.... but there are some other lines that has the same /dev... i paste bin and c if u can help me http://pastebin.com/m7c421e
[05:27] <luis_> cx5600
[05:27] <SandGorgon> man.. the mandriva KDE configuration and theme is how it should have been
[05:28] <terrestre> k3b is a great app, im using ubuntu right now but brasero burning is so slw k3b work just great
[05:28]  * genii runs screaming from luis_ until tomorrow!
[05:28] <luis_> i know genii
[05:28] <luis_> sorry
[05:28] <luis_> i am obses
[05:28] <kris> Hi. I'm on an x86_64 processor. I'm trying to install a package from a 3rd party .deb repository that doesn't have x86_64 packages. 1) Is it possible to run a program compiled for i386 on 64-bit linux (Like Vista's compatibility mode)? 2) If so, is it possible to direct apt to do this automatically? Thanks in advance!
[05:28] <luis_> with this
[05:28] <genii> luis_: It's OK, I understand
[05:29] <luis_> its just driving me crazy
[05:29] <luis_> what i did is to erase everythin
[05:29] <luis_> and start fresh over
[05:29] <jimmy51_home> where do you set the window manager in KDE 4.2?
[05:29] <luis_> and i am ate the first editing path
[05:29] <luis_> but i dont want to mistake again
[05:30] <GS3User007> jimmy51_home: what do you mean?
[05:30] <luis_> so while doing the editing i was reading in there and it says that i have to uncomment a line diferente than the gui says
[05:30] <genii> kris: I think what you want is package ia32-libs
[05:30] <digdeep> FYI: how to stop ntfs asking passwords, after each boot --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1128099&highlight=stop+nfts+to+ask+password&page=2
[05:31] <jimmy51_home> GS3User007: i have compiz installed, but i want to change the window manager to it
[05:31] <kris> genii: Okie dokie! Thanks!
[05:31] <genii> kris: Also perhaps check out http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Running_32-bit_Applications_on_64-bit_Debian_GNU/Linux
[05:32] <jimmy51_home> !compiz
[05:32] <GS3User007> jimmy51_home: hmmm... i did that a long time ago, i don't recall how to though. Is there a particular effect in compiz that isn't in kde4 yet?
[05:32] <kris> genii: Hrm. It's apparently already installed...
[05:32] <kris> One second...
[05:32] <jimmy51_home> GS3User007: uh.... don't you need compiz to get all the crazy effects?  (wobbly windows, desktop cube/cylinder, etc)
[05:32] <DarthFrog> luis_: Did you install iscan?
[05:32] <GS3User007> jimmy51_home: not anymore
[05:33] <GS3User007> jimmy51_home: not in kde anyway
[05:33] <BluesKaj> Is it safe to edit out the older unused kernels listed in the the grub menu.lst  ?
[05:33] <luis_> DarthFrog i have xsane
[05:33] <DarthFrog> BluesKaj: More better to use a package manager to uninstall those kernels and have it done automatically.
[05:33] <kris> genii: Ok. The problem that I'm having appears to be in apt. It looks for the package in the amd64 directory on the repository. But no package is there. How can I tell apt to grab the 32-bit package?
[05:33] <GS3User007> jimmy51_home: System Settings -> Desktop -> All Effects
[05:33] <jimmy51_home> GS3User007: hmmm.... i'll have to look into that
[05:34] <luis_> actually i am following this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471; and it doesnt ask me to install iscan
[05:34] <DarthFrog> luis_: I have an Epson scanner  (Photo 4490).  Xsane never worked.  Iscan worked.
[05:34] <genii> BluesKaj: Better to uninstall them by names like linux-image-<obsolete-version-numbers-here>   and they get auto-removed from menu.lst
[05:34] <luis_> mine is a multifunctional epson stylus cx5600
[05:35] <luis_> is the same?
[05:35] <jimmy51_home> whoa
[05:35] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, genii , thx
[05:35] <jimmy51_home> is compiz embedded in kde 4?  or did they just write something to replace it?
[05:35] <genii> kris: I'd d/l the .deb file and just use dpkg -i debname.deb    idea
[05:35]  * kuaera reads a ton, woots a little
[05:35] <luis_> iam ready DarthFrog if u can assit me ill do what according to ur guidelines
[05:35] <GS3User007> jimmy51_home: my understanding is that it was basically replaced/copied/ported
[05:35] <kuaera> Gallium3D expected by the end of the year :O
[05:35] <kuaera> Next year will be a good year for linux, IMO >_>;
[05:36] <luis_> but then i think i have to undo what i have done so i wont get any mistakes
[05:36] <DarthFrog> luis_: I don't know, sorry. I'm far from a expert on scanners.  I do know that I had to install the Advansys drivers and use iscan, the official Epson scanner program.  My Epson scanner worked fine in Intrepid after that.  I've not tried it in Jaunty.
[05:36] <kris> genii: Ok. Thanks for that.
[05:36] <luis_> ok
[05:37] <luis_> can u tell me what to do DarthFrog pls?
[05:37] <tweakedeh> I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 64Bit on a dell laptop and I dont understand how to find my wireless connection.
[05:38] <DarthFrog> luis_: Sorry, no.  Other than what that HOWTO tells you to do.  If you've installed the Advansys drivers, then try installing iscan (from the same place) and giving it a shot.
[05:38] <genii> kris: Synatx is like: sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture package.deb
[05:38] <tweakedeh> I found where to go but I don't see and of the wireless connections around here.
[05:39] <kris> genii: Having looked at the link you just provided, I think I'm just going to go ahead and compile from source, rather than trying to hunt down every library I need and put it into the proper directory ...
[05:39] <genii> kris: Probably better that way anyhow
[05:39] <luis_> ok after doing as the how to i pastebin on the edit path i saved and i got this after closing it: http://pastebin.com/m379b7671
[05:40] <kris> genii: Thanks again!
[05:40] <luis_> why am i getting this? is this suppose to happen? how do i fix it?
[05:40] <genii> kris: You're welcome
[05:40] <DarthFrog> luis_: Try the edit again.  Kate segfaulted on you.
[05:41] <luis_> ok
[05:41] <tweakedeh> Does any one know why my wireless isnt working?
[05:41] <genii> tweakedeh: Is it some Broadcom thing?
[05:42] <kris> Broadcom is a four letter word in the linux world ...
[05:42] <tweakedeh> genii: I have no clue. I just got this computer yesterday and installed linux.
[05:42] <genii> kris: Yes. PITA
[05:43] <kris> tweakedeh: "lspci", please.
[05:43] <genii> tweakedeh: In the pastebin, not here
[05:43] <genii> !paste
[05:43] <luis_> ok i did kdesudo kate /etc/sane.d/epkowa.conf and in there i just click on save again since there was the changes i did first time in there
[05:43] <luis_> is that ok?
[05:44] <jimmy51_home> does OpenGL perform better than XRender on an Intel GMA 950?
[05:44] <jimmy51_home> (for desktop effects)
[05:44] <tweakedeh> kris: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/161137/
[05:44] <DarthFrog> luis_: What does scanimage -L and sane-find-scanner tell you?
[05:45] <kris> tweakedeh: Atheros chip. Yep, it's a broadcom thing.
[05:45] <kris> !ndiswrapper | tweakedeh
[05:45] <DarthFrog> Nope.  Atheros isn't Broadcom.
[05:46] <kris> DarthFrog: It isn't? I thought I had one ...
[05:46] <luis_> iam working on it
[05:46] <tweakedeh> So What should i do? follow the instructions on this page?
[05:46] <DarthFrog> Atheros is good news, there are two native Linux drivers for it.
[05:47]  * kris doesn't know what he's talking about, then ...
[05:47] <kris> :-)
[05:47] <luis_> first command: http://pastebin.com/m172616f4
[05:48] <luis_> second command: http://pastebin.com/m6ece6476
[05:49] <DarthFrog> luis_: Are you sure your scanner is supported by the epkowa driver?  Is saned running?
[05:50] <luis_> i dont know i tols u i am followinf this how to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471; that says how to configure my scan feature
[05:51] <DarthFrog> Is that for your model scanner?  Does it say to install the Advansys packages for your model?
[05:51] <luis_> mi model is there
[05:51] <bootsmorris> it took me less than 1 hour to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10
[05:51] <luis_> but it doesnt give me instructions on that advansys
[05:51] <DarthFrog> luis_: Until sane-find-scanner reports finding a scanner, things are not going to work.
[05:52] <luis_> well i already reach the part where is asking me to restarrt my sysem
[05:52] <luis_> on the how to i paste bin
[05:52] <luis_> let me do so and let u know
[05:52] <luis_> brb
[05:53] <DarthFrog> Restart your system?  Hmm, I'm not impressed.
[05:58] <luis_> ok DarthFrog heres what i got whit this command: http://pastebin.com/m36fc231a
[06:00] <DarthFrog> luis_: That's good news.  Your system is now seeing the scanner!  Does xsane see it?
[06:00] <luis_> i do still have some other lines to go forward
[06:00] <luis_> but i am confuse
[06:00] <Ermott> Greetings.
[06:00] <DarthFrog> luis_: Just run xsane and see.
[06:00] <luis_> ok
[06:02] <luis_> no
[06:02] <luis_> and it turn off my multifunctional
[06:02] <DarthFrog> THen try iscan.
[06:02] <Ermott> Congratulate me. I just now managed to get 9.04 running on my hp ze4900. I never thought I could do this linux thing, and now I just had to tell someone :)
[06:02] <Ermott> It was easy actually.
[06:03] <luis_> no says hat cant c it
[06:03] <GS3User007> Ermott: congrats
[06:03] <DarthFrog> luis_: ?
[06:03] <luis_> but i am at this stage on the how to i am following:
[06:03] <luis_> Now run the scanner identifier
[06:04] <luis_> Code:
[06:04] <luis_> sane-find-scanner
[06:04] <luis_> and see where it is located as a usb, the scanner will always have product=0x083f
[06:04] <luis_> Modify the permission
[06:04] <luis_> Code:
[06:04] <luis_> sudo chmod 0755 /proc/bus/usb/*/*
[06:04] <luis_> The asterisks can be 001/002 or 001/003 or whatever, that depends on the response above.
[06:04] <luis_> Now we can run the program
[06:04] <luis_> Code:
[06:04] <luis_> iscan
[06:04] <luis_> It should work.
[06:04] <luis_> If you want to use xsane it should work as well, modify the permission:
[06:04] <DarthFrog> luis_: STOP IT!
[06:04] <luis_> Code:
[06:04] <luis_> sudo chmod 0755 /usr/bin/xsane
[06:04] <luis_> and run it either in a terminal or with the menu.
[06:04] <luis_> ups sorry
[06:04] <luis_> http://pastebin.com/m1eeb1082
[06:04] <DarthFrog> Just do it.
[06:04] <luis_> where i am confuse is at the number  line
[06:05] <luis_> cause it has some asterixs
[06:05] <luis_> and i dont know how to replace those
[06:05] <Ermott> I don't think I shall ever use windows again. I really like how you can select software from a list and... it's all automagically added to your computer... Such a great idea.
[06:06] <DarthFrog> luis_: Found USB scanner (vendor=0x04b8 [Language Error], product=0x083f [Language Error]) at libusb:003:002
[06:06] <GS3User007> Ermott: indeed, it's rather nice. The trick though, is to find what you're looking for :P
[06:06] <DarthFrog> So the numbers are 003 and 002
[06:07] <luis_> do i have to type this: 003:002 on every asterixs space? or 003 on one asterix space and then 002 on the next asterix space?
[06:07] <DarthFrog> luis_: sudo chmod 0755 /proc/bus/usb/003/002
[06:07] <luis_> ok txs
[06:07] <DarthFrog> No asterisks.
[06:08] <DarthFrog> Ermott: It is a great idea.  But Microsoft doesn't make a dime off it.
[06:08] <luis_> heres what i got:
[06:08] <luis_> chmod: cannot access `/proc/bus/usb/003/002': No such file or directory
[06:08] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$
[06:08] <Ermott> GS3User007: Wel, I have thus far found all my needs met. Open office 3.0, Komposer, the Gimp... firefox and thunderbird... the change has actually been rather painless.
[06:08] <luis_> so that is not good i think
[06:09] <Ermott> And as DarthFrog mentioned, No Microsoft.
[06:09] <DarthFrog> luis_: Go exploring in /proc/usb/bus and see if anything looks like a scanner.
[06:09] <luis_> just type that right?
[06:10] <DarthFrog> No.
[06:10] <luis_> i saw that already
[06:10] <luis_> no such file...
[06:10] <DarthFrog> "cd /proc/usb/bus"  then "ls"  and see what you see.
[06:10] <luis_> ok
[06:11] <luis_> same
[06:11] <luis_> no such file or diectory
[06:11] <DarthFrog> You could also try "lsusb", which will print out a list of your usb devices.
[06:11] <Ermott> The thing that annoyed me with Microsoft, was when I recently bought the new Streets and Trips navigation software. I found it worse than older versions, and they didn't update the maps. I bought a standalone gps unit, and switched OS in my laptop.
[06:11] <luis_> ok then let me go for the last command
[06:11] <DarthFrog> luis_: Try this: sudo chmod 0755 /proc/usb/bus/003/002
[06:12] <DarthFrog> It' looks like they had /bus/usb when it should be /usb/bus.
[06:12] <Ermott> So... have a nice day/morning/evening everyone... I'm going to explore this Ubuntu thing a little more :)
[06:12] <luis_> with lsusb: http://pastebin.com/m5a7e4568
[06:13] <DarthFrog> Ermott: Have fun!  Welcome to the Light Side of the Force.
[06:13] <luis_> and with the last one same no such file or directory
[06:13] <DarthFrog> luis_: Try this: sudo chmod 0755 /proc/usb/bus/003/003
[06:13] <DarthFrog> Your lsusb says its at 003:003
[06:14] <luis_> same: cannot access ..... no such file or directory
[06:15] <DarthFrog> luis_: OK, try this "cd /proc/usb/bus"  then "ls".  What do you get?
[06:15] <husayn> how to check that my graphics card is installed or not ?
[06:15] <DarthFrog> husayn: Can you see anything on the monitor?  :-)
[06:15] <luis_> no such file or directory
[06:15] <husayn> ya
[06:16] <husayn> but the PC seems slow.. and i think graphics card is not installed properly
[06:16] <DarthFrog> luis_: Really?   Hmm.  What do you get with "cd /proc/usb" then "ls"?
[06:16] <luis_> and with ls: http://pastebin.com/m5ccc8b10
[06:17] <husayn> also when i see PDF files.... they are quite slow...
[06:17] <luis_> with the first no such file or directory
[06:17] <luis_> with ls just paste bin
[06:17] <husayn> so how to installed graphics card on Kubuntu Hardy Heron
[06:17] <husayn> its an iNtel graphics card
[06:18] <snarkster> !info 3gp
[06:18] <DarthFrog> luis_: OK, "cd /proc/bus" then "ls".  What then?
[06:18] <snarkster> do any of you know how to convert 3gp audio files to something alittle easier to work with
[06:18] <triune> LOL
[06:18] <triune> LOL
[06:18] <triune> -rw-------   1 g    g    761848910545 2009-04-30 01:16 .xsession-errors
[06:18] <triune> wow
[06:19] <triune> thats one LARGE file
[06:19] <triune> 768 gigs!
[06:19] <snarkster> thats a mistake
[06:19] <luis_> that did something: http://pastebin.com/mc4b109
[06:19] <triune> think im going to reroute xsession errors to /dev/null instead
[06:20] <luis_> i think ur getting closer DarthFrog
[06:20] <DarthFrog> luis_: OK, now "cd /proc/bus/usb" and "ls".
[06:20] <luis_> whats next?
[06:20] <luis_> ok
[06:21] <DarthFrog> triune: You better hope that's a sparse file and that that space hasn't been allocated. :-)  Or your 1 TB disk is being somewhat wasted. :-)
[06:21] <luis_> here it is: http://pastebin.com/m527d57d
[06:22] <DarthFrog> triune: I'd be tempted to zip the file, just for shits & giggles, to see how small it gets.
[06:23] <snarkster> anyone know anything about 3gp audio files?
[06:23] <Daskreech> !ohmy
[06:23] <DarthFrog> :-)  My bad, sorry.
[06:23] <snarkster> try farts and laughs
[06:23] <DarthFrog> luis_: That's not the right cd command.
[06:24] <digdeep> Daskreech: able to fix sound problem while watching youtube
[06:24] <luis_> is the one u gave me
[06:24] <luis_> so whats the good one'
[06:24] <DarthFrog> "cd /proc/bus/usb" and "ls".
[06:24] <Daskreech> digdeep: youare ?
[06:24] <DarthFrog> luis_: Have you installed iscan?
[06:25] <luis_> i dont kknow
[06:25] <digdeep> Daskreech: yes, but using alsa
[06:25] <luis_> i dont think so
[06:25] <luis_> sudo apt-get install iscan right?
[06:25] <DarthFrog> yes.
[06:26] <DarthFrog> Though you have an iscan deb file on your desktop, don't you?
[06:26] <Daskreech> alsa is fine
[06:27] <luis_> it says that is already the newest version
[06:27] <luis_> so whats nest?
[06:27] <DarthFrog> Then just run iscan.
[06:27] <luis_> ok
[06:28] <husayn> IPTABLES is the default firewall in Kubuntu......... but its CLI... is there any GUI for that IPTABLES so that I can install on Kubuntu and configure it
[06:28] <genii> !info firestarter
[06:28] <Zulhelmi> ermmm
[06:28] <Zulhelmi> i need help
[06:28] <luis_> it appears a little wiindow saying: Could nnot send command to scanner. Check the scanner's status theOK
[06:29] <Zulhelmi> just installed my kubuntu and i cant connect to my wireless network
[06:29] <genii> husayn: See the bot's link. Also maybe look at guarddog
[06:29] <husayn> which one is the best ?
[06:29] <husayn> Guarddog or Firestarter
[06:29] <snarkster> firestarter
[06:29] <husayn> so i should go with    sudo apt-get install Firestarter
[06:29] <snarkster> but thats only my opinion
[06:29] <genii> husayn: lower-case the F in there
[06:30] <husayn> Thanks its working
[06:30] <bot10> need a little help, after i have kde and gnome install, whenever i log into kubuntu i get sound, but in ubuntu studio i only get statics, someobdy has a clue?
[06:30] <husayn> secondly i want to know... how to share a folder in Kubuntu
[06:30] <snarkster> could use some advice on these .3gp audio files i have
[06:30] <husayn> snarkster: try runing them by VLC
[06:30] <Zulhelmi> ermm anyone on my wireless?? it can see my network, but when i typed my WEP key, it just fails
[06:31] <genii> snarkster: I managed to play them off my phone before, can't remember just now how
[06:31] <snarkster> oh i can play them, i need to convert them to remove some noise
[06:31] <snarkster> i have them on my phone and computer now, just trying to convert them to something easier to use
[06:32] <luis_> nop
[06:32] <luis_> not with iscan, no with xsane
[06:32] <husayn> When i go to Policy in FIrestarter... I cannnot add rule
[06:32] <genii> snarkster: ffmpeg likely then
[06:32] <husayn> ohh sorry
[06:32] <husayn> its working
[06:34] <luis_> so if this is not working how do i remove or undo what i have done? and do what u first told me to DarthFrog?
[06:34] <luis_> or can it be done withouth removing or undoing what i have done?
[06:34] <DarthFrog> luis_: Sorry, I'm out of ideas.
[06:34] <luis_> ok
[06:34] <luis_> lets do what u did
[06:35] <luis_> what do i do or how do i install what u say?
[06:36] <DarthFrog> luis_: However that sane-find-scanner found your scanner is excellent.
[06:36] <DarthFrog> luis_: Whoever next helps you, be sure to tell them that.  It's important.
[06:36] <luis_> ok
[06:37] <luis_> txs a lot
[06:38]  * genii jerks awake then realizes work starts in 5 hours
[06:38] <Daskreech> night
[06:43]  * DarthFrog bids everyone  a good night and is off to his own bed. 
[06:45] <nukem2525> is it practical/secure to give a user account privileges over the x session
[06:46] <nukem2525> to be able to start and stop it
[06:48] <mkasson> when I press Ctrl - Windows I get cool magic stars
[06:48] <mkasson> or I'm dreaming
[06:48] <mkasson> what are they for?
[06:50] <nukem2525> do you have compiz or somthing similar installed
[06:50] <aaron____> I know that this isn't exactly the right place to ask this but does anybody know how to use some of the less obvious features in Parley?
[06:50] <Daskreech> mkasson: To let you know where the mouse is
[06:50] <Daskreech> Which non obvious features?
[06:50] <genii> mkasson: It's the "super" key
[06:50] <aaron____> Daskreech: the conjugation stuff. There's an option to test on different conjugations but I can't figure out how to use it
[06:51] <snarkster> goodnight
[06:54] <aaron____> Daskreech: I can't figure out how to tell it that X is a conjugated form of Y, nor where to put in answers on a conjugation test, if that helps at all
[06:54] <tweakedeh> Every time i try to connect to my home wireless network it says it fails. I took down the security and it still fails. any ideaas?
[06:55] <Daskreech> Sorry haven't played that much with parley. #kdeedu  would be a better chan
[06:55] <mkasson> oh... it looks... magic!!
[06:55] <mkasson> thanks folks
[06:55] <aaron____> Daskreech: I'm trying, but no responses for 4 or 5 hours now :-(
[06:55] <aaron____> thanks anyway
[07:02] <tweakedeh_> I have Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X and every time I try to connect to my home net work it fails
[07:05] <tweakedeh_> Any one?
[07:05] <tweakedeh_> Been working at this problem all day and I can now see the netoworks around me but It wont let me connect. it keeps failing.
[07:21] <Tac_Work> so... canonical won't ship to the US, but the usstore they point you to, doesn't have 9.04 CD's ... any alternatives?  ( I want to buy them instead of burn them so they look nicer to give to people )
[07:22] <nukem2525> there used to be a place that would ship you the CDs for free
[07:22] <nukem2525> ill look real quick
[07:22] <Tac_Work> shipit, but I want them faster than the few months they say it can take :-p... plus I want a couple dozen or so
[07:23] <bazhang> !shipit
[07:23] <nukem2525> thats it
[07:23] <Tac_Work> right.... but read what I just said ...
[07:23] <Tac_Work> they say if you want more than 1, you may not get approved, and it will take forever ( in so many words )
[07:24] <Tac_Work> I can just burn em... but they look more reputable to give to people in nice cases with nice looking CD's :)
[07:24] <nukem2525> it does take forever, I think some time around 6.10 I requested 3 and it took about 7 weeks
[07:25] <nukem2525> they came in nice printed cardboard sleeves
[07:25] <Tac_Work> maybe the usstore will have them quick I guess...
[07:25] <Tac_Work> right, I used shipit way back in the day as well
[07:25] <justin__> i just switched to gnome and my theme is screwed up where can i get the default theme gtk+ human from
[07:25] <Tac_Work> I still have a few 8.something CD's
[07:26] <nukem2525> I had actually forgotten I had requested them by the time they arrived
[07:26] <Tac_Work> I think that's what they are... I'd have to find them
[07:26] <Tac_Work> but yeah, the usstore only has 8.10... they don't have 9.04
[07:26] <sven_> hello all, for hacking my router I need to work with TFTP-Client for Windows... but... I use Kubuntu, how can I solve this problem?
[07:27] <nukem2525> Tac_Work:  I would assume they will get them in quick
[07:28] <nukem2525> whats the easiest most efficient way to get krfb to only accept connections from localhost
[07:37] <sven_> hello all, for hacking my router I need to work with TFTP-Client for Windows... but... I use Kubuntu, how can I solve this problem?
[07:37] <noaXess> good morning.
[07:37] <jaguar123321> does anyone know how to enable "focus on mouse wheel on inactive window" in kde 4.2.2 in Kubuntu Jaunty?
[07:37] <jaguar123321> this feature is present in kde 3.5 but absent in kde 4.2.2
[07:41] <GS3User007> jaguar123321: I don't see that option anywhere (now that i've gone looking for it).
[07:47] <sven_> does nobody have a solution for me :s
[07:47] <GS3User007> sven_: sorry, i'm not familiar with that at all
[07:49] <Daskreech> sven_: tftp is a FTP client ?
[07:49] <Daskreech> !ftp
[07:50] <GS3User007> sven_: adept has several entries for things about tftp
[07:50] <Daskreech> you can use Konqueror
[07:51] <sven_> I need TFTP client, not FTP
[07:52] <Daskreech> tftp is tiny ftp
[07:52] <sven_> Daskreech: T = TRIVIAL
[07:53] <Daskreech> sorry yes that's correct
[07:53] <Daskreech> !find tftp
[07:53] <Daskreech> !info atftp
[07:53] <Daskreech> There you fo
[07:53] <Daskreech> go
[07:53] <sven_> ubottu: is it with UI?
[07:54] <Daskreech> !bot
[08:00] <floydwilde> I've got regular ubunut installed, and some kde apps installed, whats the best way to get the rest of kde installed?
[08:02] <nukem2525> does anyone have an easy solution to block krfb from accepting any connections other than localhost?
[08:03] <nukem2525> I suppose a simple way to block incoming connections on port 5900
[08:10] <floydwilde> I thought you could do apt-get install kubuntu?
[08:11] <GS3User007> try kde instead of kubuntu
[08:11] <Daskreech> !kubuntu
[08:11] <GS3User007> or maybe kubuntu-desktop
[08:11] <Daskreech> !kde
[08:13] <floydwilde> I've got all the kde packages installed, no kubuntu packages anymore?
[08:14] <GS3User007> i don't know... what are you trying to do?
[08:14] <floydwilde> apt-cache search kubuntu = nada
[08:14] <floydwilde> install kubuntu from regular ubuntu
[08:14] <GS3User007> try apt-get install kde
[08:15] <floydwilde> I think i did already, heh, I'm enjoying it now
[08:15] <GS3User007> oh, okay
[08:15] <floydwilde> although I'm still in gnome, i'll try changing users
[08:15] <GS3User007> change sessions at the login screen
[08:16] <floydwilde> hmm i don't get an kde option in sessions?
[08:17] <GS3User007> maybe try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <floydwilde> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[08:18] <floydwilde> is there some repo i need to enable?
[08:19] <GS3User007> i honestly have no idea
[08:19] <Daskreech> main
[08:19] <GS3User007> i'm not too great at the linux thing yet :P
[08:20] <GS3User007> earlier, did you log off, or just switch users?
[08:20] <Daskreech> !main | floydwilde
[08:20] <GS3User007> you could also try restarting x, see if that brings kde as a session option
[08:22] <Daskreech> floydwilde: refresh our sources
[08:23] <floydwilde> huh weird, after doing apt-get update things are starting to make more sense, heh
[08:23] <Daskreech> you
[08:23] <Daskreech> floydwilde: Yep
[08:24] <floydwilde> i've been using gnome a long while, and thinking to give kde a try
[08:24] <Daskreech> ok
[08:25] <ActionParsnip1> no bad thing
[08:30] <nemedin> Hi
[08:31] <Daskreech> !hi
[08:31] <nukem2525> !firewall
[09:01] <noaXess> i have dd'ed my main hd (on sata1) to my backup hd (on sata2) now the system boots from sata2.. how cani change that, so it boots from my main hd on sata1?
[09:06] <noaXess> can i do that only from bios, right?
[09:12] <dosage> you can set in BIOS what drive boots first, 2nd , 3rd ect
[09:13] <dosage> some BIOS can force a manual selectio n of boot device
[09:13] <dosage> most have a hotkey for boot menue
[09:29] <HSNews> how to order free kubuntu disks?
[09:29] <faileas> http://shipit.kubuntu.com/
[09:31] <GS3User007> beat me to it :P
[09:35] <HSNews> how to request alternate?
[09:35] <HSNews> )
[09:35] <dosage> https://shipit.kubuntu.org/
[09:35] <dosage> so you dontget the SSL warning
[09:38] <dosage> you can try here http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu for other releases. might not be free but usually $2 or so
[09:47] <buzzDrive> Hi, does it exist to analyse graphically disk usage like the tool for Gnome?
[09:50] <eleve> soumia?
[09:52] <makronaut> yes
[09:52] <makronaut> there is souch tool
[09:52] <makronaut> it is
[09:54] <utente> ciao a tutti
[09:56] <makronaut> try filelight
[09:59] <buzzDrive> I have trouble when I want to archive files with several volumes what is the best way to do that?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[10:02] <altrortla> hello ... it's several days that 8.04 'Hardy' propose me to adjourn to 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope'.... The question is in that way I'll loose my personal setting (such as Samba, Video Card, Source List...etc..etc..) ????
[10:03] <mkalen> greetings all, I have a question about how to make a persistent konsole configuration of setxkbmap on kubuntu 9.04. after upgrade from 8.04LTS the keymap in KDE is OK but konsole gets reset on reboot and needs "sudo setxkbmap -layout se -model pc105" to get pipe etc to work on a swedish keyboard
[10:05] <mkalen> altrortla: i did this upgrade a few days ago. requires some configuring but mostly things are kept. samba should be kept, apt sources gets disabled but are left commented in sources.list, some KDE4 programs loose settings but some like digikam can convert/keep KDE3 settings
[10:07] <lakrigg> samba will be kept
[10:07] <lakrigg> definately, dont worry bout that
[10:09] <Harag> hello ppls
[10:10] <MagicDuck1> hi, I just installed 9.04. I am having a little problem with the gui fonts for X applications like xfig and xpdf. I can't get them to use nice ttf fonts. Anybody know how to fix this? (fonts show ugly - no antialiasing, hinting - in xfontsel)
[10:10] <mkalen> is konsole in 9.04 getting it's keyboard layout settings from udev or what can i configure to force a specific layout?
[10:11] <Harag> I just installed kubuntu 9.04 (32bit) and when I use Konqueror to access a website that uses authentication the login/password dialog is not displayed ...is there a setting I am missing?
[10:11] <sou> hey
[10:12] <lucie> hey!
[10:12] <wiliam> ciao a tutti
[10:12] <mkalen> input/keybindings in Konsole is set to "XFree 4" but in konsole itself it seems that 9.04 only allows for shortcut editing, not keyboard layout (layout is working in rest of KDE, just not in konsole)
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> !fonts > MagicDuck1
[10:13] <lucie> alors ca y est t'as compris comment ca marche?
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> !fr > lucie
[10:13] <sou> ça va
[10:13] <sou> pourquoi tu m parles pas
[10:13] <lucie> mais si je te parles!
[10:14] <sou> bah dis qlqch
[10:14] <lucie> ca va c'est pas trop triste sans moi?
[10:15] <sou> non je vis trés bien
[10:16] <lucie> méchnte
[10:16] <sou> réaliste
[10:17] <lucie> non  je sais que tu m'aime
[10:17] <sou> pfff
[10:17] <sou> autant que j'aime Marilou alors
[10:18] <lucie> salope
[10:18] <sou> je sais que tu m'aimes
[10:18] <lucie> ou oas
[10:18] <lucie> pas*
[10:19] <sou> aprends a parler avant
[10:20] <lucie> tu te loa pete parce que t'as l'impression de devenir une vrai geek hein --'
[10:20] <lucie> et c'est toi qui dis ca!!
[10:20] <sou> oui c'est mon rêve depuis que j'ai decouvert LINUX l'année derniere
[10:21] <sou> et counter strake
[10:21] <lucie> que l'an dernier?!
[10:21] <lucie> noob!
[10:21] <faileas> ...
[10:21] <sou> que je l'ai utulisé oui
[10:21] <lucie> apprends à ecrire toi aussi hein...
[10:21] <sou> mais je connaissais avant
[10:21] <faileas> !fr
[10:21] <lucie> geeeeeenre!
[10:21] <sou> oui mais toi tu utilise IE ALORS TU PEUX PARLER
[10:21] <lucie> non trop as!
[10:21] <lucie> pas*
[10:22] <lucie> j'utile FF
[10:22] <lucie> AHAHA!!
[10:23] <sou> que depuis aue tu l'as vu chez moi il ya pas longtemps que tu l'a sinstalé
[10:23] <sou> tu peux pas mentir assumes
[10:23] <lucie> mais j'assume
[10:24] <lucie> facebook te manques hein?
[10:24] <lucie> les tests...
[10:25] <sou> pas dutout
[10:25] <sou> ce qui me manques c'est fedback
[10:25] <lucie> genre
[10:25] <lucie> t'as deja tout regardé
[10:27] <sou> non j'ai pas regardé les feux de l'amour ni les mangas j'ai fait presque tte les series la moitié des films mais pas le smangas!!!!
[10:27] <lucie> labce toi dans les feux de l'amour
[10:28] <lucie> au moins tu nous foutra la paix pour au moins 5ans
[10:31] <HSNews> can't  start XServer )(((
[10:31] <HSNews> I login into console... but when I try /etc/init.d/kdm start
[10:31] <HSNews> it says me Already started
[10:31] <HSNews> alt+1-10 can't help
[10:36] <mkalen> HSNews: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors? what's your graphics card (ati, nvidida, etc)?
[10:40] <drbobb> hey, would you say it's normal that moving a ntfs partition by gparted takes all night and much of the following day??
[10:43] <pradip> hello Room
[10:43] <mkalen> drbobb: what's the partition size? i have only resized ntfs rather small partitions (ca 50-200GB) with gparted and this took 8-10h
[10:43] <drbobb> mkalen: it's about 100G, on a 160G drive
[10:44] <mkalen> drbobb: do you move it across on the same disk? if so sounds extremely slow... have you checked /var/log/messages for any read/write errors?
[10:45] <drbobb> mkalen: and I just requested a move, being careful to keep the same # of cylinders, but gparted after completing the move decided the partition still needs resizing
[10:46] <drbobb> mkalen: no disk errors registered, it's a brand-new drive and seems healthy
[10:47] <mkalen> drbobb: i think ntfs "bookkeeping" info in the partition needs to be updated anyway, so the resize pass will probably reorder everything
[10:48] <drbobb> mkalen: I believe it's been running for 11 or 12 hours, and says 2 hours still to go
[10:48] <Malic> hi! i did an upgrade to jaunty. now i have problems with the xserver.. sometimes there appears a black screen. i cant get rid of that. also the graphic is very .. i use an ati mobility radeon
[10:48] <drbobb> mkalen: in case it matters, the drive's connected by usb
[10:48] <Malic> very slow
[10:48] <Malic> is that a known problem?
[10:49] <mkalen> drbobb: well that coul be normal, my experience is 8-10h and that's on a pretty fast pata disk, usb would probably be slower
[10:49] <mkalen> drbobb: i'd just get a 2h-cup of coffee and give it a wait ;)
[10:49] <drbobb> mkalen: there's no reason for usb to be slower
[10:50] <drbobb> mkalen: last week i blanked a whole 160GB drive on usb, and it took about 90 minutes
[10:51] <drbobb> usb bus is in theory 480 Mbits/s
[10:51] <mkalen> drbobb: well, it depends on the specs for the disk (average latency, max transfer rate, your usb bus capacity and so on). blanking a disk just writes nicely from cylinder to cylinder whereas a move across the same disk will most of the time wait for hard drive head moves (the slowest op on a hard drive)
[10:52] <drbobb> mkalen: yes I realise that, still I wonder whether the difference isn't excessive
[10:52] <mkalen> drbobb: i think max bus speed is very theoretical in this case, there are not many reads where you would fill any bus type, most of the time the disk is waiting for the head to move or for the disk to accept the previous command
[10:52] <mkalen> drbobb: if you read a huge unfragmented file from your disk, then yes, but in this case i think not
[10:52] <drbobb> mkalen: right on, that's why I'm saying the bus isn't a limiting factor here
[10:53] <drbobb> usb connected drives can work as fast as internal ones if your usb controlled isn't buggy
[10:53] <mkalen> drbobb: yep, i'm with you and it's just a hunch that the usb connection increases latency so forget i said it
[10:53] <Malic> the new xorg seems to be incompatible with the ati drivers.. is that right?
[10:53] <drbobb> well unless you compare with the fastest of scsi/sas/fober channel
[10:54] <drbobb> s/fober/fiber/
[10:54] <mkalen> drbobb: but i think in that case your times compare with mine, i did resize only and this took 8-10h, you are moving the partition as well = should take considerably longer
[10:55] <mkalen> Malic: i have ati and can't use the fglrx driver, have to uninstall it and use radeon
[10:56] <zoggy> hey, my konqueror favourite folder navigation panel has gone missing for the file management profile, does anyone know which file i remove to reset it please?
[10:58] <kumar> !wifi
[10:59] <Malic> hm
[11:00] <Malic> mkalen.. and what is the problem with the radeon driver?
[11:00] <Malic> no desktop effects?
[11:00] <drbobb> mkalen: ok I see that maybe the fact I needed to change the partition's starting cylinder is what's making this slower for me than it was for you
[11:00] <mkalen> Malic: blank or corrupted logon screen, not usable at all. but i have an older card and am not interested in 3d accel so i didn't give fglrx much of a try - the fglrx driver i kubuntu 9.04 is supposed to be compatible with the new xorg
[11:01] <kumar> !knetworkmanager
[11:01] <mkalen> drbobb: yeah, i wouldn't worry since progress indication still moves and you have no logged read/write errors on the disk
[11:02] <drbobb> btw the reason I needed to do that is I'm dealing with a bios that doesn't work correctly with >137GB drives, so I need a /boot partition at the beginning of the drive
[11:02] <mkalen> drbobb: oh, BIOS-limits, yeah those are really annoying
[11:03] <drbobb> I was sort of caught by surprise, that a ca. 5y-old bios would still have such a limitation
[11:05] <mkalen> drbobb: no upgrade available?
[11:05] <drbobb> mkalen: haven't found any
[11:06] <drbobb> it's a hp compaq laptop
[11:06] <drbobb> nx9005
[11:07] <kumar> is knetworkmanager obsolete? I no longer have a menu item for it
[11:07] <kumar> and my wifi is also broken atm
[11:08] <mkalen> kumar: there is a faq entry for wifi in 9.04, but basically what you do is to add a plasma network gadget to your toolbar
[11:09] <kumar> mkalen: ah
[11:09] <kumar> cheers
[11:10] <kumar> I should have thought of that myself... as I had to do the same thing with my battery monitor indicator
[11:11]  * kumar disconnects ethernet to test
[11:11] <kumar> brb
[11:29] <drbobb> I found a recommendation on the web, that when you move/resize a windows primary partition, it's a good idea to change the disk ID in order to force windows to update its registry data about drives and partition. Can anyone confirm from own experience?
[11:31] <mkalen> drbobb: resize primary was OK without changing disk id, if you get past boot you should be able to do the same by updating in the win disk manager
[11:32] <drbobb> mkalen: I don't quite parse, what is it I should update in win disk manager
[11:33] <mkalen> drbobb: i didn't have to update anything, but if you want to go ahead with this tip you found you could refresh the win reg. settings in the win disk manager (given you can boot into it) ;)
[11:34] <mkalen> drbobb: probably ot for kubuntu, more windows-savvy folks elsewhere?
[11:35] <drbobb> mkalen: yeah maybe, but I presume lots of ppl deal with such issues precisely while installing (k)ubuntu
[11:36] <mkalen> drbobb: sure
[11:37] <drbobb> mkalen: as for me, I usually deal with 100% linux pc's, so dual-boot issues are not quite transparent to me
[11:38] <mkalen> drbobb: have an old ntfs partition with xp for work purposes, but it's getting dusty since i started using virtualbox/xvm on my kubuntu desktop
[11:40] <drbobb> I do recall that when I repartitioned my own laptop with kubuntu's installer, shrinking the windows partitions, the process was an order of magnitude faster than what i'm seeing now, and the drive was in fact smaller but not by a lot
[11:42] <dragonspell> Hi, i have a problem right now with kpackagekit, and i did not find any matching:  (kubuntu 9.04 a64,laptop) when searching a package in kppackaggekit, then theres a error, The package list needs to be rebuilt.
[11:42] <dragonspell> This should have been done by the backend automatically.
[11:42] <mkalen> drbobb: shrink can be quite fast if there is a lot of free space as "slack" and no info there
[11:43] <dragonspell> What can i do? or what is a command for rebuilding package list in terminal?
[11:43] <mkalen> dragonspell: try "sudo apt-get update"?
[11:43] <mkalen> dragonspell: need to close kpackagekit et.al.
 dragonspell: need to close kpackagekit et.al.
[11:44] <dragonspell> is therestill apt-get?
[11:44] <mkalen> dragonspell: sure, try it and you shall be enlightened :)
[11:44] <dragonspell> yeah
[11:45] <mkalen> dragonspell: seriously; you might think of adept which got replaced by kpackagekit as kubuntu package gui
[11:45] <burn___> hi all
[11:46] <burn___> тут есть русские?
[11:47] <dragonspell> mkalen: ahh yeah, now i see
[11:47] <bazhang> !ru
[11:49] <dragonspell> mkalen: i thing i got something wrong, and i tried to include the packman sources, and that caused a problem in the package cache or something, but now fixed the entry, thanxs
[11:53] <mkalen> dragonspell: great, i miss adept myself, not friends with kpackageman yet
[11:53] <makronaut> use synaptic, it is much beter
[11:55] <mattholly> i have an issue with any playing any media file on an external HD. it opens up then starts the file and then closes??  xubuntu updated to 9
[11:55] <mkalen> makronaut: thanks. but if i can, i want to avoid pulling in the gnome libs in kde and my (short) experience with synaptic is that it's not as clear re package dependencies as adept was - that's my issue with kpackagekit also
[11:56] <makronaut> then use aptitude
[11:56] <makronaut> it is included by default
[11:57] <makronaut> for resolving dependencies problems is the best app
[11:57] <makronaut> just do not try to find anything with it ;)
[11:57] <mkalen> makronaut: yep, you're right in console mode i'm mostly on dselect but adept is much better - but it's nice to have a gui at times
[11:57] <mkalen> mattholly: xubuntu? wrong channel or speling?
[11:58] <mattholly> o i put k haha thanks
[11:59] <mkalen> does anyone know how konsole in 9.04 reads it's keyboard layout setting? udev?
[12:01] <mkalen> have keyboard layout diff between rest of KDE and konsole (the latter needs manual layout reset with setxkbmap after every boot)
[12:09] <drbobb> few things are as confusing as the handling of keyboards by Xorg
[12:14] <raccon> Wet
[12:17] <jari> bollocks. anyone know how to get this working on jaunty? Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[12:18] <Bischoop> Hi
[12:23] <iwein> hello world?
[12:23] <faileas> BOW BEFORE ZOD
[12:23] <faileas> i mean hello
[12:23] <iwein> lol
[12:29] <drbobb> uurgh, if I had known moving an ntfs partition with gparted would take upwards of 12 hours, i would have wiped the disk clean and started over
[12:30] <mkasson> have to install a flash player. your recommend swfdec or gnash?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: are you using PPC cpu?
[12:32] <mkasson> x86
[12:32] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: why not use the adoe one then?
[12:33] <drbobb> loading all the xp updates and service packs of the last 5 years is painful, but can be done in 8 hours or so
[12:33] <mkasson> fight the power?
[12:33] <mkasson> no reason
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: fair play
[12:33] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: just curious, I'd shoot for gnash personally
[12:33] <drbobb> mkasson: too bad none of the alternatives works very well
[12:33] <mkasson> I don't use acrobat reader cause its bloaty.  I assumed their other prods would eb too
[12:33] <mkasson> ech
[12:33] <mkasson> adobe it isthen
[12:34] <mkasson> thank you
[12:34] <ActionParsnip1> drbobb: hopefully they will get better soon. Or adobe get intelligent and release flash so folks can develop it
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> would a live cd desktop on sufficient amounts of ram eventually run very fast due to th required apps all caching into ram?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip1> or am i interpretting the behaviour of the live cd wrong
[12:38] <bazhang> ActionParsnip1, its doubtful it would work faster.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip1> bazhang: but dont the apps come off the cd into the ram disk or do they stay on cd and get copied over as and when?
[12:39] <bazhang> ActionParsnip1, iirc the first
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> bazhang: cos all i use my pc for is chat, browse, amarok and ktorrent. If I had say 2Gb ram they could all sit in ram happily
[12:40] <bazhang> you'd be surprised at how big the logs can get though especially for irc :)
[12:40] <ActionParsnip1> i dont log irc
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> its silly
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> plus its already done for you here on freenode
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> !logs
[12:41] <bazhang> nice :)
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> so my irc logs constitute a big fat barry white 0kb
[12:42] <victim> how can I open several text files etc in the same instance of Kate?  Konsole (kate *.txt) opens in the same window, but highlighting the same files and right clicking open with kate - opens in separate windows
[12:42] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: if you use the toram cheat code (assuming its supported) yes. You'd need a REALLY slim distro tho
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: i always slim my distro down. I have Xubuntu + lxde + ktorrent + amarok at 1.7Gb
[12:43] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: then its prolly fine if ubuntu supports that cheatcode ;)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: with all codecs + flash + dnsmasq
[12:44] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: i'll check that out
[12:44] <faileas> i know knoppix has that
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: yeah, didnt think of that one
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> love knoppix :)
[12:45] <faileas> ;)
[12:45]  * faileas has an amazing memory for apps, so to speak
[12:45] <faileas> then i spend the whole day trying to remember one, which sucks ;p
[12:48] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: http://linux.wareseeker.com/Miscellaneous/booting-ubuntu-to-ram.zip/316289
[12:49] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: sweet
[12:50] <faileas> on the other hand
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> may as well, got nothing better to do
[12:50] <faileas> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM they link here
[12:50] <faileas> which i trust more ;p
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: it links there eventually ;)
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> so will that boot the cd to ram and then run it from there, boot speed isnt a concern
[12:51] <faileas> ;p
[12:51]  * faileas needs to set up his new box soon
[12:51] <faileas> i need to decide what order to install OSes though
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: just install uuntu, then stop :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: or gentoo, then stop :)
[12:53] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: naw, Aim is to have XP, Kubuntu OS X and windows 7 on it
[12:53] <faileas> though windows 7 will expire at some point >_>
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> xp and windows 7, bit wasteful
[12:54] <faileas> http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/D945GCLF2_atom_330/ this is the mobo
[12:54] <faileas> I know XP well ;p
[12:54] <faileas> windows 7 is so i don't risk a production system with something i may or may not like ;p
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> i'm not so hot on xp, server 2003 i'm pretty sweet on :)
[12:55] <drbobb> ActionParsnip1: re free flash alternatives: heh they've been getting better for years and years now
[12:55] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: i have a copy of 2008. Still, XP i trust a little ;p
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> drbobb: totally. if adobe got a grip and released flash the world would be a nicer place
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: outside my work lappy, i dont use windows, let alone xp
[12:56] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: My gaming box is pure XP. my laptop is dualboot
[12:56] <MarkieMark1> victim: look at kate -u
[12:56] <faileas> also, i want to get more OSes than a friend of mine on it ;p
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: no games here except MAME / fretsonfire and penumbra
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: have a few Gb for each and install a tonne of linux distros and a few BSD just for kicks
[12:57] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: 250 GB hard drive
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: then boot windows 3.1 in dosbox
[12:58] <faileas> and i can probably image to the 1 tb drive on my main box
[12:58] <victim> hi MarkieMark1 thanks
[12:58] <afeijo> what is the cmd to suspend to ram ? I want to add it to cron
[12:58] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: amusing thing is... that box is essentially a quad core ;p
[12:58] <faileas> 2x cores + ht
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> faileas: i have no multicores, nearly all my systems are circa 1999 - 2000
[12:59] <mkasson> ActionParsnip1, damnsmalllinux goes toram and needs far less than 2GB
[13:00] <faileas> ActionParsnip1: i got to c2ds, and that atom box
[13:00] <mkasson> and, since you have older machines, it runs real light
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: i need amarok and ktorrent. I'm gonna modify the disk
[13:00] <mkasson> ah if ya need the K then...
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: oh lots, i'm jut looking for a project cos all my stuff is working and i can't go out as i'm off on holiday soon so i need an inconsequential giggle
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: well, qt ;)
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> mkasson: faileas: i'll let you know how I get on. Could be a chuckle
[13:03] <victim> MarkieMark1: with a bit of experimenting the command I need to use is   kate -u %u
[13:03] <afeijo> ops
[13:04] <afeijo> I asked what would be the cmd to suspend to ram, but I got disconected
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> afeijo: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digipedia.pl%2Fman%2Fhibernate-disk.8.html&ei=HZT5SaTfN4OltgffoL2sAw&usg=AFQjCNECe1jfRMeyQ_uzizgiJ4Uohudchw
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> stupid google links
[13:06] <afeijo> hehe
[13:06] <drbobb> afeijo: I knew how to do that with dcop on kde3, I'd really like to learn how to do the same under kde4
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> afeijo: just something i bumped into, its not something i use
[13:07] <JuJuBee> I have no sound after upgrade to Jaunty.  Can someone assits me?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: can you provide the output of    sudo lshw -C sound
[13:08] <afeijo> ActionParsnip1: that command suspend to disk, not ram, but it will help me :)
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: can you check the channels arent muted and the speakers are on and cranked to 11
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> afeijo: theres a tonne of stuff out there dude
[13:08] <afeijo> ops, I dont have swap
[13:09] <drbobb> ActionParsnip1: there is no such command in the default kubuntu install
[13:09] <drbobb> and I'm not 100% that it would be compatible with ho kubuntu handles suspending
[13:09] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: that comand seems incorrect
[13:10] <JuJuBee> never mind, got it.
[13:10] <JuJuBee> I will paste brb
[13:10] <drbobb> afeijo: you don't need swap to suspend to RAM, although it is needed to suspend to disk
[13:11] <afeijo> drbobb: yeah, but I didnt found yet how to do it with that hibernate cmd
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: got it ...as in sound?
[13:11] <rre> kubuntu italia?
[13:11] <drbobb> afeijo: does suspend to RAM work for you with kubuntu's power manager, whatever it's called nowadays?
[13:11] <JuJuBee> No, got it as in command.  I fatfingered,...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/161403/
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> !it
[13:12] <afeijo> drbobb: I think so, I have that option on the shutdown opt, I will test soon
[13:12] <rre> tanks
[13:14] <drbobb> afeijo: you may want to look into the content of package acpi-support
[13:14] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip1: Boy do I feel dumb.... weird that the mixer muted the speakers after update?
[13:15] <JuJuBee> Now, what's up with Amarok?  MY playlists don't show up after upgrade.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: i guess
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: I've seen this around. You could always rename the amarok config files and re-establish them   (cd ~/.kde; find . -name amaro*)
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: i use m3u files within each folder of mp3s, thus making the playlist :)
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> JuJuBee: i've never made a playlist within amarok due to the text like nature of m3u files
[13:30] <dhendu9411> hello gang!
[13:30] <dhendu9411> I need some help installing additional apt sources under kubuntu 9.04
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: ok what have you dones so far?
[13:31] <dhendu9411> I have read several articles, but have gotten lost somewhere I am sure.
[13:31] <manuel_> hi
[13:31] <luis_> hi good morning
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: its hugely simple if you dont use the gui
[13:32] <manuel_> good morning too i have 2.pm here ;-)
[13:32] <dhendu9411> well, the guide is telling me to go to system > administration > Software sources, but I don't have that in the kicker
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: naaar, thats the lame way
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: all that does is update a simple text file, so you can simply add the line to the text file and you dont have to worry
[13:32] <dhendu9411> the quick way would be much appreciated
[13:32] <dhendu9411> :)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: ok
[13:33] <dhendu9411> edit the /etc/apt/sources.list right?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:33] <manuel_> i hear no sound anymore in kubuntu, i tested serval programms and  games and removed pulseaudio but nothing worked
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> go down to the end of the file and paste the repo line you have
[13:33] <manuel_> how ca i start to analyse the error
[13:33] <dhendu9411> got that so far
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: ok then save the file and close the editor
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: then run: sudo apt-get update
[13:34] <luis_> i really can use some help i am trying to configure my epson stylus cx5600 scan feature but no succes till now this how to is the one i did: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=627471; and i got this at terminal: http://pastebin.com/m338da775; is there a master that can help me out pls?? iam desperate!!!
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: if you paste me the error you get about PGP keys I will give you the command to add the key to authenticate the repo
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: if you havent already added its key
[13:35] <dhendu9411> i think i already added it as it didn't give me an error when doing the apt update
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: ok then you're done
[13:35] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: sudo apt-get install <whatever>
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: or use synaptic / adept / aptitude / whatever
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> dhendu9411: they ALL use that file
[13:36] <dhendu9411> I am trying to get the bryce harrington's intel package.  I have been reading some posts on fixing x with intel chipsets.  this was one of the posts I found.  when I try to download the package, it can't be found.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: let me websearch
[13:37] <Freyr> is anyone in here changed from linux on windows on asus eeepc ?
[13:38] <luis_> ok
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: looks ok, you need to run: sudo dpkg -i iscan*.deb to install those deb files
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: like the guide says
[13:38] <luis_> but i already did that
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> Freyr: i moved from Xandros to puppy if thats any help
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: ok then keep running with the guide
[13:39] <luis_> i did follow averything on that gui till the end
[13:39] <luis_> ok txs
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: if you have followed it riht, when you run    iscan    it should work
[13:40] <Freyr> action: do you know if there is an irc channel for eeepc ?
[13:40] <luis_> thing is that i have been doing this since the day before ysterday and nothing seems to work
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: looks pretty thorough, you could always uninstall the debs and retry from 0
[13:40] <luis_> ok
[13:41] <luis_> how do i uninstall the debs?
[13:41] <luis_> is therea command or something?
[13:41] <luis_> cause i have been erasing everything from dolphin
[13:43] <hans> hello
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: sudo dpkg -r <name>
[13:43] <luis_> ok
[13:43] <luis_> txs
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> luis_: dpkg -l | grep iscan*   will help ;)
[13:44] <luis_> that on just prompt
[13:44] <luis_> lets c the first one
[13:48] <JonDgls> Hello all
[13:49] <bs_> heyho
[13:50] <bs_> i've got a problem: which source i need to add to install the beryl driver?
[13:56] <dhendu9411> well gang, I tried to install the Bryce Harrington package as stated earlier to resolve the intel chipset issue and that really messed things up.
[13:57] <dhendu9411> I uninstalled the package and was able to get into the gui again, but now my attached monitor doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
[13:58] <dhendu9411> anyone?
[13:58] <dhendu9411> can anyone tell me how to downgrade back to 8.10?
[13:59] <dhendu9411> 9.04 seems to not be for the masses as it doesn't seem like it was tested very well on many platforms
[14:00] <dhendu9411> *tap, tap* is my mic on?
[14:08] <mkasson> dhendu9411, your mic is on. (can't help ya beyond that)
[14:08] <dhendu9411> thanks for the response
[14:08] <mkasson> np
[14:10] <Cerrdor> Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com intrepid Release [65.9kB]
[14:10] <Cerrdor> 43% [5 Release 9624/65.9kB 14%] [4 Release 40688/51.2kB 79%]kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
[14:10] <Cerrdor> Error: "/tmp/kde-cerrdor" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[14:10] <Cerrdor> how do i correct this?
[14:11] <MarkieMark1> man chown
[14:12] <BluesKaj> G'Day all
[14:12] <wtl> where can i download all the official kde4 icons since 4.0? :)
[14:12] <wtl> is there a package for that? :)
[14:13] <mkasson> what's command line for finding out how much space consumed by a dir?  was thinkning ls -lrs but no
[14:14] <Cerrdor> kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kconf_update
[14:14] <Cerrdor> Error: "/tmp/kde-cerrdor" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[14:14] <Cerrdor> how do i correct this?
[14:14] <Cerrdor> Oh MarkieMark1 that was for me?
[14:15] <matchbox56> chown -R root /rmp/kde-cerrdor
[14:15] <Cerrdor> ok
[14:18] <Cerrdor> ok I made a booboo yesterday
[14:18] <panos4ever> hi everybody
[14:18] <Cerrdor> I changed all intrepid in source.list to jaunty
[14:18] <Cerrdor> then apt-get update now it wants me to upgrade
[14:18] <Cerrdor> so i changed back to intrepid
[14:19] <Cerrdor> if i apt-get update will it just install intrepid updates?
[14:20] <dhendu9411> is there anyone in here now that can help troubleshoot an attached monitor not working?
[14:20] <Cerrdor> dhendu9411: how you mean? like a split monitor?
[14:21] <dhendu9411> well I am using a laptop, so I have a built in LCD and an external LCD
[14:21] <Cerrdor> and you want to use the attached instead of the built in?
[14:21] <dhendu9411> I upgraded to 9.04 and my graphics got all messed up.  I read that the xserver was updated to 1.6 from 1.5 and alot of changes were made
[14:22] <dhendu9411> I tried to install a driver package from bryce harrington from a post in ubuntu forums and that really messed things up.  I uninstalled it and now, I get graphics again, but only on one monitor
[14:23] <dhendu9411> i would like to use either or
[14:23] <dhendu9411> well, I would like to use the external
[14:23] <dhendu9411> instead of the built-in when the external is attached
[14:23] <Cerrdor> dang dunno
[14:24] <dhendu9411> does anyone here have a dual monitor setup?
[14:25] <dhendu9411> does anyone know if I install 8.10 on top of 9.04 if my data will be destroyed?
[14:26] <dhendu9411> who is on 9.04 here?
[14:27] <Cerrdor> Im gonna upgrade in a few
[14:27] <dhendu9411> what chipset do you have for video?
[14:28] <Cerrdor> intel I belive
[14:28] <Cerrdor> im on a barebones system
[14:28] <dhendu9411> definitely don't upgrade then!!!!
[14:28] <dhendu9411> intel chipsets do NOT work in 9.04
[14:28] <Cerrdor> lol
[14:29] <dhendu9411> I wish that was posted on the Kubuntu site before they told you how to upgrade
[14:29] <Cerrdor> Im wondering if I downgrade by editing source.list and change intrepid to dapper will it work
[14:29] <dhendu9411> Check out the forums... intel chipsets are having issues.
[14:45] <luis_> i was reading the oficcial kubuntu.org page and also GNU/Linux page and they say that a way to help is to post iin here or any other available channel what the user think about this OS and as i have been reading on differents forums the epson stylus cx5600 scan feature is an issue that has been around for several time, however the developers hasn`t do anything abou it yet, there are some guys in here that has done that on very specific
[14:45] <luis_> pc on their own and they do share what they have donde, however theres no one official gui that can help on this, actually is a matter of trying differents how to, so i think ubuntu-kubuntu-xubuntu developers need to move forward and start taking care of issues like this one since is a part of what us, user have been talking about for several time in my case i am new on this system and the theory is great, how people help people wich
[14:45] <luis_> is kinnda tru and i am so greatful with does that has been willing to do so, but still developers dont give support for this specific topic even when is old, thank you very much and i really hope developers do start doing something about this issue soon
[14:46] <Pici> luis_: To be honest, this channel isnt the place to make suggestions.  Perhaps http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com would be better?
[14:47] <luis_> kubuntu.org says it is
[14:47] <luis_> OR ANY other available channel
[14:48] <altrortla> there's a pdf converter to cvs?
[14:50] <luis_> but i will also post it on that page u gave me thank you very much Pici
[15:04] <altrortla> there's a pdf converter to csv?
[15:08] <hagabaka> are things in /etc/xdg/autostart autorun by KDE? where does it log error output?
[15:10] <Lorn> hi, i need to see the xorg.conf files in kubuntu i looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and i only see "Configured Monitor" , how i see the "original" xorg.conf?
[15:27] <genii> Lorn: The xorg.conf in there is what the system is using. X uses it less and less now with each release.
[15:33] <dhuv> hello all
[15:35] <BluesKaj> hey genii, thx for kernel removal advice last night...worked well :)
[15:39] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime :)
[15:47] <petroage> hello
[15:54] <fabubuntu> slt
[16:05] <grethel> recherche oovoo
[16:11] <joshua___> hey folks, I get unrecoverable lockups where the mouse still moves but nothing else works... I have to manually hold power button to get out... I'm running on a dell inspiron 1525 laptop...
[16:12] <amgarching> if I run "screen" from a "screen" how do I open new shell in the inner screen? C-a c opens new shell of the outer.
[16:12] <canen> firefox has its own built in cairo right?
[16:13] <LinuxApe> Anyone having printing problems since their jaunty upgrade?
[16:17] <alnassafi> Hi all
[16:23] <vianney> hi
[16:23] <vianney> #kubuntu eng or fr,?
[16:26] <somekool> hi ! since I upgraded to 9.04 many of my systray icons are not visible
[16:26] <SandGorgon> !fr | vianney
[16:29] <vianney> !fr
[16:29] <mkasson> is there a gui scp tool for kubuntu?
[16:30] <somekool> konqueror
[16:30] <somekool> fish://
[16:30] <mkasson> ah it does that too?  cool thanks
[16:32] <anbesaw> any one familiar with DD-WRT and hotspots?
[16:36] <genii> anbesaw: This is the Kubuntu support channel
[16:36] <anbesaw> genii: where should I post my question :)
[16:36] <anbesaw> on IRC
[16:36] <anbesaw> good channel?
[16:37] <genii> anbesaw: I'm sure the openwrt guys and others have channels here
[16:39] <genii> anbesaw: #openwrt has 307 people in it that likely know more about DD-WRT than anyone in here does. If not they'll point to you to some DD-WRT specific assistenace or channel
[16:39] <anbesaw> genni.. thanks.. I am already tehre
[16:48] <sachith> hai all
[16:48]  * genii hands sachith a coffee
[16:49] <sachith> hi geni
[16:49] <joshua___> hey folks can someone help me track down the fix to a serious bug that I have (that has been reported/confirmed) But there are so many dupes that I have no idea what to apply or how...
[16:49] <joshua___> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/339091
[16:49] <joshua___> thanks
[16:49] <yao_ziyuan> my kubuntu 9.04 (upgraded from 8.10) has this problem:
[16:49] <sachith> i ahve a problem can someone help me?
[16:50] <samdamsam> Hey guys I was just changing the color of my download speed in the little realtime chart in my system monitor and it worked fine. Then For some reason it said my download or upload speed was zero when it wasnt so I closed the system monitor and reopened it. Now I can only see my download speed, not my upload speed and I cant/dont know how to add the upload speed sensor. Any help? Thanks
[16:50] <yao_ziyuan> chinese-named files in dolphin are blank when hovered
[16:51] <sachith> how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:51] <yao_ziyuan> the problem can be temporarily solved by going to system settings -> appearance -> fonts and make some changes therein and restart dolphin
[16:51] <sachith> how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:51] <sachith> how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:51] <yao_ziyuan> but the next time i start kubuntu the problem is back.
[16:51] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder if a brand-new 9.04 will have this bug?
[16:55] <sachith> how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:55] <SandGorgon> when are the next release of QT 4.5 libraries - I hear they will fix a lot of KDE problems like the screen tearing, etc.
[16:56] <sachith> hellooooo how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:56] <samdamsam> How can I download codecs (mp3) for Amarok?
[16:57] <genii> sachith: Please wait longer than 90 seconds between asking the same question. 5-7 minutes or so
[16:57] <mgroman> Hi, how come when I open a text file created on windows, the spacing seems all crazy?  like nothing seems to be aligned
[16:58] <p_quarles> mgroman: because Windows and Unix have different standards for representing line breaks
[16:58] <matchbox56> sachith: other than editing /etc/fstab, don't think theres a GUI
[16:58] <LjL> !info tofrodos
[16:58] <samdamsam> How can I download codecs (mp3) for Amarok?
[16:59] <mgroman> p_quarles: you are referring to CRLF vs LF ?
[16:59] <sachith> how to mount the partitions automatically in kubuntu 9.04?
[16:59] <sachith> pls help me
[17:00] <p_quarles> mgroman: I don't know the specifics; the package LjL mentioned should be the answer to your question, though
[17:00] <mgroman> p_quarles: ah sorry, didnt see it
[17:00] <LjL> mgroman: yes, he was (knowingly or not)
[17:00] <mgroman> LjL: thanks
[17:01] <p_quarles> LjL: I just know they're different :)
[17:01] <mgroman> my question more or less has to do with a subversion repository.. i already set the eol-style to native.  i was curious if thre was anything else that might cause a problem
[17:01] <mgroman> thanks all
[17:02] <LjL> mgroman: uhm, perhaps it might be the tabs?
[17:02] <LjL> mgroman: if TAB characters are used, they might correspond to a different amount of spaces in different editors
[17:02] <samdamsam> Hey guys I was just changing the color of my download speed in the little realtime chart in my system monitor and it worked fine. Then For some reason it said my download or upload speed was zero when it wasnt so I closed the system monitor and reopened it. Now I can only see my download speed, not my upload speed and I cant/dont know how to add the upload speed sensor. Any help? Thanks
[17:02] <LjL> (which is why source code is customarily uploaded with spaces, not tabs)
[17:03] <mgroman> LjL: i see, that makes sense
[17:03] <joshua___> folks trying to find a binary package of this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.6.3-0ubuntu10
[17:03] <joshua___> but cant... can anyone help?
[17:06] <IrCYop> Hey, I juyst loaded the live cd on virtual box
[17:06] <IrCYop> and it said kde had an error
[17:06] <IrCYop> but now it wants a username and password
[17:07] <IrCYop> )-o
[17:07] <IrCYop> 0_o
[17:07] <u-guard> hello
[17:07] <kathryn> ??
[17:07] <kathryn> hello?
[17:07] <u-guard> Is it possible to make the cube in KDE 4.1?
[17:07] <kathryn> I'm using konversation for the first time and i'm having a lot of trouble with the channel lists
[17:08] <joshua___> actually can anyone help me find the very latest unreleased xserver-xorg-video-intel package? please
[17:08] <kathryn> is there an easier way to get channel names?
[17:08]  * kathryn is wondering if this is even working
[17:09] <kathryn> could someone just say something to me really quick so that I know this is working
[17:09] <robin0800> kathryn: yes it is see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/2:2.6.3-0ubuntu10
[17:10] <kathryn> okay at least theres that
[17:10] <kathryn> thanx
[17:10] <u-guard> Is it possible to make the cube in KDE 4.1?
[17:10] <kathryn> no idea about the cube. Never got it working myself.
[17:11] <kathryn> wrong video card
[17:11] <kathryn> oh dear this program is meant for kde
[17:11] <kathryn> i'm using gnome
[17:12] <kathryn> no, actually this is easypeasy
[17:12] <kathryn> seems to be working fine though
[17:13] <u-guard> Is it possible to make the cube in KDE 4.1?
[17:13] <kathryn> did you check the forums?
[17:13] <kathryn> i'm sure someone has asked it before
[17:13] <IrCYop> u-guard, What video card do you have?
[17:13] <kathryn> idk but its propriatary. I'm still kind of a computer noob
[17:14] <matchbox56> samdamsam: close system monitor, edit ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/SystemLoad.sgrd changed locked="1" to 0, reopen and you should see the sensor browser .
[17:14] <kathryn> oh I thought you were talking to me
[17:14] <kathryn> nevermind
[17:14] <kathryn> anybody know any good channels? the channel list is giving me trouble
[17:15] <kathryn> like a political or a freethought chatroom
[17:16] <MarkieMark1> kathryn, perhaps try http://searchirc.com/search.php?SCHANS=1&SSORT=SIZE&N=freenode
[17:16] <kathryn> oh thanx
[17:19] <kathryn> I pasted the name of the channel (irc:// #python) into the box that comes up when I select join channel, but this did not work. What am I doing wrong?
[17:20] <MarkieMark1> you just need to type /join #channelname
[17:21] <MarkieMark1> the front page at http://searchirc.com/ has channels organised into categories, too
[17:21] <kathryn> thanks markie!
[17:21] <piksi> i'd love to hear if anyone else is having these kind of problems with their 9.04 kde4: http://dos.pi-xi.net/messed.png ?
[17:22] <piksi> it happens both with desktop effects on and off (nvidia proprietary driver in use)
[17:22] <kathryn> nope that didn't work either
[17:22] <kathryn> wait did it wrong
[17:22] <wirechief> !sru
[17:23] <kathryn> nope still didn't work
[17:23] <kathryn> ok almost figured it out
[17:23] <samdamsam> matchbox56, yeah I see the sensor bar. Now how can I add the upload sensor?
[17:23] <kathryn> what does it mean to be "identified"
[17:24] <genii> !register | kathryn
[17:25] <kathryn> << /nick <ModusPonens> >>
[17:25] <kathryn> erg
[17:25] <tzanger> good afternoon
[17:26] <tzanger> quick uestion -- in kate when I hit tab I get two spaces... the tabulator stuff int he config is NOT set to emit spaces instead of tabs... is there soemthing else I am missing?
[17:26]  * genii slides tzanger a coffee
[17:26] <MarkieMark1> kathryn, just remember when they say <name> <password> there's no need for you to type the <>
[17:26] <tzanger> heh thanks
[17:26] <MarkieMark1> tzanger, is it the width of the tabs?
[17:27] <tzanger> MarkieMark1: no it's only two spaces. tabulators says 8
[17:27] <tzanger> now if I hit tab 4 times, I get the ">>" to show it's a tab
[17:27] <tzanger> and it's positioned at 8 chars
[17:29] <tzanger> nevermind
[17:29] <tzanger> there's tabulators and then there's indentation
[17:29] <tzanger> and THAT was set to 2 chars
[17:29] <tzanger> not sure what the hell the difference between the two is though :-)
[17:29] <matchbox56> samdamsam, Just drag the item you want from the sensor to the panel in question
[17:31] <ModusTalons> register <kh2iigrf> <kathryn.panger@gmail.com>
[17:31] <ModusTalons> damnit!
[17:32] <Dragnslcr> Is it a bad thing that I set up a RAID mirror with my motherboard's onboard RAID controller, but gparted still sees the disks as sda and sdb?
[17:32] <ModusTalons> what the heck amd I doing wrong????
[17:32] <MarkieMark1> as I say, that should be without the <> around the password ModusTalons
[17:32] <ModusTalons> ok thanx
[17:32] <MarkieMark1> plus remember the /nickserv
[17:33] <MarkieMark1> now you may want to change the password as everyone's seen it :)
[17:33] <ModusTalons> lol yeah I figured that
[17:34] <genii> ModusTalons: It's better to do all your password/auth stuff in some channel like #NickServ or #ubottu
[17:34] <ModusTalons> ok
[17:34] <ModusTalons> test
[17:35] <MarkieMark1> Konversation has the default channel Ubuntu IRC afaik no-one notices you there
[17:35] <JuJuBee> Anybody having trouble with amarok?  I can't get it to start now.  Upgraded to Jaunty yesterday.
[17:37] <ModusTalons> SUCESS! thank you!
[17:38] <ModusTalons> amarok is too bulkey anyway, go with rhythmbox or audacious
[17:38] <ModusTalons> amarok is a really bad program impo
[17:38] <ModusTalons> rhythmbox is the best so far
[17:40] <JuJuBee> Can it import my playlists from amarok?
[17:40] <ModusTalons> idk never tried it
[17:40] <ModusTalons> are your folders organized?
[17:40] <ModusTalons> playlists idk about
[17:42] <JuJuBee> yes folders organized
[17:42] <ModusTalons> then at least you wont have to worry about getting your music all organized again, even though u might have to make up new playlists
[17:43] <ModusTalons> audacious is the lightest program, but rhythmbox does podcasts and can take music off of or put music on an ipod or other device
[17:43] <ModusTalons> audacious is just a playlist editor and a player
[17:43] <ModusTalons> super fast and light
[17:43] <JuJuBee> Thanks.
[17:43] <ModusTalons> sure
[17:43] <JuJuBee> Just finished importing my 10K+ songs into rhythmbox
[17:44] <ModusTalons> dang! you work fast!
[17:44] <samdamsam> Hey guys. I installed kubuntu-desktop and was trying to configure the task bar but now both the clock and system tray are HUGE (horizontally). How can i resize them? thanks
[17:44] <ModusTalons> how'd you guys get into linux? if anyone feels like chatting
[17:45] <JuJuBee> I HATE Microsucks Winblows! as much as I love my wife ;)
[17:46] <noam> i've read a lot about it, so i just gave it a try. i failed to install the first, oh, three or so distributions i've found...
[17:47] <noam> linux for the desktop matured quite a bit since then. almost no "no screens found, see X.log" messages :)
[17:47] <samdamsam> JuJuBee, Everyone look at me I´m on the Kubuntu irc channel and I hate Windows. I´m so cool. I even fuck the same woman on a weekly basis. I rock!
[17:48] <JuJuBee> samdamsam: Very mature :P
[17:48] <JuJuBee> Thanks riddell
[17:49] <ModusTalons> okay, i'm registered, but not signed in
[17:49] <ModusTalons> how do I sign in
[17:49] <ModusTalons> when the program closes out it signs me out I gues
[17:49] <ModusTalons> guess*
[17:49] <ModusTalons> lol I rock even more because I AM a woman
[17:50] <ModusTalons> ha! try to find a girl like me! I dare ya!
[17:50] <JuJuBee> ModusTalons: you need to tell your irc program to identify you every time you fire it up.
[17:50] <ModusTalons> okay how do I do that?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ModusTalons: look out for g33k_girl
[17:51] <ModusTalons> lol they DO exist
[17:51] <ModusTalons> okay so how do I tell the program to identify me?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ModusTalons: oh, totally
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> !identify
[17:53] <ModusTalons> what does it mean to use your nickserv password in your irc client?
[17:53] <Dragnslcr> ModusTalons: are you using Quassel or Konversation?
[17:53] <ModusTalons> is that in the settings or something?
[17:53] <demis_> ΚΑΛΗΣΠΕΡΑ!
[17:53] <ModusTalons> konversation
[17:53] <noam> okay now i don't have sound at all.
[17:53] <noam> amarok can play sounds, flash on youtube in firefox can't.
[17:53] <Dragnslcr> ModusTalons: can't remember where it is in Konversation. Gimme a minute and I can check
[17:53] <ModusTalons> i'll look around
[17:53] <genii> demis_:  /join #ubuntu-ru         for Russian
[17:53] <MarkieMark1> in konversation it's file -> server list -> edit
[17:54] <Ahmuck> hi.  how do you share a printer in kubuntu?
[17:54] <nameiner> Hi folks, I have a laptop with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD and installed Googleearth on Jaunty 64bit. When I start it the part of the window where the globe should be just flickers a lot and then stops and turns black. Any ideas how to fix that?
[17:55] <MarkieMark1> then edit a channel's settings; at least it should be, though I have to say as yet I seem to have to manually type in my passwords even though they are listed in the settings file :)
[17:55] <ioslipstream> I had a 9.04 install of ubuntu and installed kubuntu-desktop on top of that and everything seems fine, but I'm missing 3d acceleration. i'm thinking i may have removed a package i shouldn't have, anyone know of something to check for?
[17:55] <ModusTalons> ok i'll log out and log back in to test it
[17:55] <Dragnslcr> ModusTalons: From the server list, select whichever one you're using, then click Edit
[17:55] <ioslipstream> system settings does say that opengl is enabled
[17:58] <ModusTalons> WTF
[17:58] <ModusTalons> it auto identified in a new tab, but i'm still not identified
[17:58] <Dragnslcr> ModusTalons: From the server list, select whichever one you're using, then click Edit
[17:58] <ModusTalons> I did that I thought
[17:58] <ModusTalons> i'll try again
[17:59] <Dragnslcr> Then click the Edit button next to Identity
[17:59] <Dragnslcr> At the bottom is Auto Identify
[17:59] <ModusTalons> yeah and I put my namme and password into there
[17:59] <ModusTalons> and in a new tab when i restarted the program it did the auto identify thing
[17:59] <ModusTalons> but it failed
[18:00] <Dragnslcr> In Service put NickServ, and then Password is your password
[18:00] <ModusTalons> OH!
[18:00] <ModusTalons> okay i'll try again
[18:00] <ModusTalons> thanx!
[18:01] <ModusTalons> WOO HOO!!!
[18:01] <ModusTalons> success!!!
[18:03] <nameiner> ioslipstream: try "glxinfo | grep rendering" in a Konsole, that should return "direct rendering: Yes" if it works
[18:04] <ioslipstream> nameiner: it says direct rendering: yes
[18:05] <joel_> jaskdjhsak
[18:05] <ioslipstream> i had the fancy kwin effects after installing, but i started removing gnome packages and now i do not have any effects.  i'm not sure if i removed something i shouldn't have :(
[18:05] <joel_> wenas alguien save por que ya no mandan los cd de ubuntu a casa????
[18:06] <MarkieMark1> !es | joel_
[18:06] <draeco> slut
[18:07] <nameiner> ioslipstream: then you should have 3d running and it is not a graphics problem but a setup/package problem
[18:07] <ioslipstream> hmm, any idea what package provides that?
[18:08] <ioslipstream> that makes me almost positive it was something i removed when trying to remove gnome desktop stuff
[18:09] <nameiner> can you check under System Settings -> Desktop if the effects are switched on? Just in case some removed package switched them off
[18:10] <ioslipstream> yes, they are switched on.
[18:11] <ioslipstream> Enable Desktop Effects is checked, and compositing type is set as opengl
[18:12] <nameiner> hmmm, check if the package libkwineffects1 is installed
[18:12] <ioslipstream> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GME GEM
[18:12] <pau> Hola
[18:12] <nameiner> it's the only one I find in the packages that says something about desktop effects
[18:13] <pau> a ver si alguien puede ayudarme con una duda
[18:13] <pau> alguien habla español?
[18:13] <ioslipstream> yeah, it is installed
[18:13] <ioslipstream> oh well, thanks for trying! i'll do some more googling.
[18:14] <genii> !es | pau
[18:14] <pau> thank you!
[18:14] <genii> pau: :)
[18:14] <nameiner> maybe reinstall the KDE meta package it should install all packages that might got lost while you tried removing the Gnome packages
[18:15] <nameiner> kubuntu-desktop I think
[18:15] <altrortla> someones knows a good pdf converter? (prefered to csv)
[18:16] <nameiner> I have a laptop with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500MHD and installed Googleearth on Jaunty 64bit. When I start it the part of the window where the globe should be just flickers a lot and then stops and turns black. Any ideas how to fix that?
[18:17] <genii> !purekde
[18:23] <makronaut> nameiner: try to start your window manager without compiz
[18:24] <makronaut> i do not know a hix
[18:24] <makronaut> fix
[18:24] <makronaut> but it is related to the composite manager of ix
[18:24] <makronaut> if you do not use compiz
[18:25] <makronaut> try to disable all fancy composite effects which are enabled in kde by default
[18:26] <eduardo> hi all
[18:26] <nameiner> makronaut: will try
[18:26] <nano> hi
[18:26] <BluesKaj> makronaut , maybe the Jaunty kde3 remix is for you
[18:26] <tobi> I configured my ethernet device with pppoeconf. While booting my system should connect automatically with the internet. But after every reset I have to run "poff dsl-provider" following "pon dsl-privder" to get online access (with sudo)! Why is that?!
[18:27] <makronaut> ??
[18:27] <makronaut> kde 4.2 works fine for me, thx
[18:28] <BluesKaj> no kde4 effects
[18:28] <nameiner> makronaut: that works, but now I don't have effects anymore, I guess there is no solution to have both :(
[18:29] <BluesKaj> oh sry makronaut , addressing the wrong person
[18:30] <makronaut>  – Content Management System
[18:30] <makronaut> nameiner:
[18:30] <makronaut>  – Content Management System
[18:30] <nameiner> makronaut: what do you mean?
[18:30] <makronaut> nameiner: I do not have this kind of problem
[18:31] <makronaut> But I use compiz with emerald instead of kwin
[18:32] <nameiner> makronaut: ah, thanks anyway.
[18:32] <nameiner> at least I have an idea now
[18:32] <makronaut> ++ I enabled the workaround settings in compiz
[18:33] <makronaut> nameiner: in any case, I had the same problems
[18:34] <makronaut> nameiner: as you, even in compiz, I berlive tha workaround settings have something to do with
[18:35] <makronaut> nameiner: an additional info... I have an ati graphic card and I the flgrx driver downloaded from their own page
[18:36] <nameiner> makronaut: I don't use Googleearth that frequently, so if I don't find a solution I can just switch the effects off before.
[18:37] <nameiner> is there a new driver package out yet for 9.04 or did you do the manual setup?
[18:37] <makronaut> nameiner: Yes but you will have the same problem with celestia and 3d games which run in a window
[18:37] <nameiner> makronaut: I was just wondering, since I have another PC with ATI graphics
[18:38] <tobi> If there is some kind of command I need sudo-rights for, could it be, that an autostart wouldn't work?!
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> qq
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> if i'm modifying the live cd with this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> and chooted to the livecd, if I run sudo apt-get upgrade, will it upgrade the live cd?
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> Pici: you got a sec dude
[18:44] <Pici> ActionParsnip: maybe
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> if i use the livecd customisation, and chroot into the extracted cd and run apt-get upgrade, will it upgrade the live cd so when its reburned it will be up to date when reburned?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> thats the guide i got
[18:45] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I don't know, sorry.  If you have the time, why not just try it and see what happens.
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> thats my plan, was just cuious if you'd done it before
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> Pici: i'm making a live cd to run purely in ram to make the os groovy
[18:47] <Pici> apparle: I added an exception to let you join.
[18:49] <apparle> Pici : Did you put the exception on my username or my current session??...............Will I be able to connect to ubuntu when I use mibbit next time
[18:50] <Pici> apparle: Just your current session. We have mibbit banned due to abuse, if you use a real IRC client you will not have problems joining the channel.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Pici: as opposed to a fake one?
[18:51] <tsimpson> mibbit it not a real IRC client, just like kopete ;)
[18:51] <LjL> mibbit is hardly a client, since it's a server :P
[18:52] <theuser1>  what are the ports used by irc. ?
[18:52] <sevenhill> 6667 - 8000
[18:52] <Pici> Freenode offers access to IRC on the following ports: 6665, 6666, 6667, 7000, 7070, 8000, 8001, 8002
[18:52] <Dragnslcr> theuser1: 6667 is the most common
[18:52] <rufong> !exception
[18:52] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: i need to know all. iam going to run irc
[18:53] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: i need to know all. iam going to run ircd
[18:53] <LjL> oh lord.
[18:53] <Pici> theuser1: Then its whatever you want it to be
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> theuser1: technically you can run it on whatever port you want
[18:53] <Dragnslcr> I think most clients try 6667 first by default
[18:55] <theuser1> Pici:  Dragnslcr i need to know . the ports. that most users connect by. or what the standerd irc ports.?
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> theuser1: then maybe you should learn to read
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> I told you the most common default
[18:55] <theuser1> Dragnslcr: ill read ever you type
[18:55] <Dragnslcr> And you've been told what Freenode listens on
[18:57] <theuser1> ok
[18:57] <theuser1>  6665, 6666, 6667, 7000, 7070, 8000, 8001, 8002
[18:57] <theuser1> thanks
[19:00] <JuJuBee> How do I get the Network Manager widget?  I cannot find it.
[19:00] <nameiner> I played a bit n the OpenGL settings under Systems Settings > Desktop and then my Xserver crashed and now I can't login anymore. I tried to reconfigure the xorg.conf but it didn't help
[19:00] <nameiner> Any ideas?
[19:03] <makronaut> nameiner: try to rename xorg.conf.failsafe or xorg.conf.original-0 to xorg.conf
[19:03] <makronaut> nameiner: in ubuntu are those configurations automated, so do not mess with them
[19:05] <makronaut> nameiner: if you would like to manualy change them, you should try some other hard core distr like gentoo or slackware or...
[19:05] <nameiner> makronaut: I didn't change anything in he xorg.conf file itself, just under System Settings
[19:06] <apparle> How to send files using Kbluetooth 4
[19:06] <JuJuBee> Anybody?  Network Manager Widget?  Cant find it.
[19:07] <nameiner> makronaut: I don't have a xorg.conf.failsafe or xorg.conf.original-0
[19:07] <apparle> Hello guys
[19:10] <makronaut> nameiner: just do as I said it should work, otherwise you should locate your video configuratin in ~./kde
[19:10] <malik_> my kubuntu9.04  crashes and stops responding completely i have an acer travel mate 6292
[19:12] <makronaut> nameiner: you can delete the folder ~/.kde/share/config
[19:12] <malik_> is that folder hidden in the home folder
[19:12] <apparle> nameiner: what happened
[19:13] <makronaut> nameiner: but you will loose all configuration for KDE configuration
[19:13] <makronaut> yes, it is
[19:13] <malik_> ok
[19:13] <nameiner> makronaut: still working on it
[19:15] <makronaut> nameiner: if you will locate the right file you will delete only the needed configutration, do not worry about kde, it will detect the missing files and will regenerate them with default settings
[19:16] <nameiner> makronaut: already deleted the whole folder, didn't change much yet, so no big problem and it worked
[19:16] <nameiner> makronaut: thank you
[19:25] <Cerrdor> with the kontact application what can I use to send sms?
[19:25] <Cerrdor> or how do I configure it to work with my phone?
[19:28] <Cerrdor> how do I configure kontact to work with my phone??
[19:30] <dag_> @all: hi there!
[19:30] <Cerrdor> howdy
[19:31] <apparle> hi
[19:31] <dag_> I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)
[19:32] <apparle> does anyone knoe how to install open source drivers of ATI
[19:34] <dag_> apparie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver , hopr that helps
[19:36] <dag_> I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)
[19:36] <Cerrdor> how do I configure kontact to work with my phone??
[19:38] <dag_> cerrdor: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6258719&postcount=6/
[19:38] <dag_> cerrdor: hope that helps
[19:39] <Cerrdor> dag_: thanks im reading it now
[19:40] <dag_> cerrdor: maybe this one too http://forum.kde.org/how-to-sync-kontact-with-mobile-phone-t-13025.html
[19:40] <dag_> cerrdor: you're welcome! ;)
[19:40] <Dashkal> Does anybody know of a way to get a kubuntu system to offer remote logins over VNC?  Completely apart from my normal console login if at all possible.
[19:41] <dag_> dashkal: did you try KRDC?
[19:41] <SandGorgon> Dashkal: umm.. doesnt running vncserver help ?
[19:41] <Dashkal> I mean connect and get kdm
[19:42] <dag_> dashkal: definitely KRDC so
[19:42] <Dashkal> krdc is the client, I'm looking for the server side.
[19:43] <tty17> hey guys, I'm creating a custom livecd, how can I change what programs start on login?
[19:43] <dag_> dashkal: you can use hamachi
[19:43] <tty17> damn bbl
[19:43] <SandGorgon> dag_: isnt hamachi VPN rather than VNC ?
[19:44]  * Dashkal googles.   yep, vpn
[19:44] <dag_> sandgordon: yes, but I used it as vnc as well
[19:44] <dag_> sandgordon: i had a home-server and i used it from office
[19:45] <Dashkal> hrm, will have to look.
[19:45] <dag_> sandgordon: the server was running ubuntu hardy and the client was running WinXP
[19:45] <rbrunhuber> Does anybody know how to configure strigi/nepomuk in jaunty.
[19:45] <Dashkal> I considered making a second kdm instance and using x11vnc, but x11vnc isn't nearly stable enough
[19:45] <SandGorgon> Dashkal: we used to use vncpasswd to set passwd, vncserver -display 800x600 and any vnc clients
[19:47] <dag_> dashkal: you can take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[19:47] <Dashkal> vncserver (both vnc4server and xtightvncserver) seems to be lacking some of the X features kde requires.  Looks _terible_
[19:47] <Dashkal> leaving me wanting to piggy back off of X
[19:47] <Dashkal> dag_: ooo, that looks very promising
[19:47] <dag_> dashkal: oops, that was vnc4server
[19:48] <dag_> dashkal: but maybe it does the trick
[19:49] <Dashkal> This looks like half the solution, though, so it looks like a good read
[19:49] <dag_> dashkal: nice to ear!
[19:49] <Dashkal> vnc4server has a piggy-back module for X itself.  Which I haven't been able to investigate (the docs wern't all that helpful)
[19:49] <dag_> dashkal: shit-happens
[19:50] <tweakedeh> hey, i'm having trouble with my wireless, I installed some new software and now I can see the wireless networks around me but I every time I try to connect to it it fails. http://paste.ubuntu.com/161137/
[19:50] <Dashkal> true, but undocumented software might as well not exist.
[19:51] <dag_> dashkal: did you tried vnc4server --help ?
[19:51] <tty17> hey guys, I'm creating a custom livecd, how can I change what programs start on login?
[19:52] <dag_> dashkal: sorry for the stupid question, but sometimes that command reports documents for undocumented software
[19:52] <Dashkal> dag_: I found the docs for vnc4server's standalone server, I mean I was having difficulty finding docs on the X module
[19:52] <dag_> tty: which software do you used to get the custom live cd?
[19:52] <dag_> tty: ah, got it
[19:53] <tty17> dag_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[19:53] <Dashkal> I'm not entirely certain of what it does.  It might turn my full blown X into a vnc server (a la x11vnc), or it might just be a video driver (basically making it vnc4server).  I don't yet know
[19:57] <dag_> dashkal: please tell me if you learn something new about the matter, I'm interested too
[19:57] <dag_>  I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)
[19:58] <Dashkal> dag_: Will do
[19:58] <dag_> does anybody knows how to install new fonts in konsole, under kubuntu jaunty (9.04)?
[19:59] <Dashkal> Is it a monospace font?  My custom installed monospace fonts show up fine
[20:03] <xjjk> dag_: you can do that through systemsettings AFAIK
[20:03] <xjjk> dag_: also, dump them into ~/.fonts/
[20:03] <xjjk> close and restart konsole, the fonts should appear
[20:03] <max> buona sera
[20:04] <Guest47269> c'è nessuno
[20:04] <tsimpson> !it | maxxx
[20:05] <maxxx> non c'è nessuno????
[20:05] <fokitol> kde is beatutifull!!! :-)
[20:09] <davide> anyone here?
[20:10] <jimmy51_> what's the simplest way to run XP under 9.04 ( i want to be able to launch it, run a few stuipd windows apps, and kill it as needed)
[20:10] <jimmy51_> and do any of them support open gl or direct x?  i've seen wine can support autocad, but i've never got wine to work well with anything
[20:11] <nightrow> virtualbox ?
[20:11] <jimmy51_> nightrow: i've never used it.  is it a vm?  (and is it free?)
[20:12] <jason_froebe> virtualbox, kvm, vmware, pick a flavor ;-)
[20:12] <nightrow> well the linux i'm using to speak here is running inside virtualbox, look like vmware
[20:12] <xjjk> jimmy51_: both virtualbox (latest version, 2.2) and vmware support basic 3D acceleration
[20:12] <xjjk> though AFAIK if you want speed, WINE is the fastest
[20:13] <xjjk> jimmy51_: Virtualbox (what I use) has both a free libre (GPL) and free beer version
[20:13] <jimmy51_> hmm... maybe i'll try virtual box
[20:13] <xjjk> and many (including me) think it's faster than VMware
[20:13] <jimmy51_> xjjk: does the free support 3d?
[20:13] <jason_froebe> wine for games and such but if you need ms office or similar, go with a vm
[20:13] <xjjk> jimmy51_: AFAIK no not yet
[20:14] <xjjk> jimmy51_: er, do you mean free libre or free beer version
[20:14] <xjjk> the free libre you have the source code to (it's GPL) and is included in Ubuntu's universe repositories
[20:14] <tty17> I'm creating a custom livecd, how can I change what programs start on login?
[20:14] <xjjk> the free beer version is free for personal, non-commercial use, and you have to add repositories
[20:15] <jimmy51_> xjjk: ok.  i'll google virtualbox 2.2 kubuntu repository
[20:15] <xjjk> jimmy51_: http://virtualbox.org/, the website is very easy to follow
[20:15] <xjjk> the documentation/etc is *excellent(
[20:17] <Rasa> When I tried to install Kubuntu I got a very small screen with big letters: what can I do to fix it?
[20:18] <jimmy51_> xxjjk:  sweet:  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads  shows the repo's and how to get it
[20:18] <xjjk> jimmy51_: yep... I wish VMware supported Debian/Ubuntu this well
[20:18] <jason_froebe> install virtualbox:  sudo aptitude install virtualbox  :)
[20:18] <jimmy51_> xjjk: you'd think they would want to, since there is a growing market for switchers to linux who need a few old apps to still work
[20:19] <jason_froebe> for the opensource version
[20:19] <jimmy51_> jason_froebe: is that 2.2 with 3d support?
[20:19] <xjjk> jimmy51_: I guess they figure their downloadable installer is "good enough"
[20:19] <jimmy51_> my apt-cache looked like it just had 2.1 without adding those repos
[20:19] <xjjk> but honestly, who wants to deal with managing when software is upgraded
[20:19] <jimmy51_> xjjk: i sure don't
[20:20] <xjjk> jimmy51_: yeh, Ubuntu includes the OSS version
[20:20] <xjjk> jimmy51_: the repositories on the website are for the commercial version
[20:20] <xjjk> see the website about which is best for you
[20:20] <jason_froebe> dang it looks like 2.1
[20:21] <xjjk> virtualbox 2.2 was released after jaunty's freeze so it didn't make it in
[20:21] <xjjk> I guess wait for karmic for virtualbox 2.2/2.3
[20:21] <jason_froebe> only have to wait until december for karmic's release :)
[20:25] <senorpedro> hi folks
[20:26] <jimmy51_> downloading virtualbox-2.2 package now
[20:26] <jimmy51_> i'll try it out and see how it goes.  thanks all
[20:45] <mteren> hi is this the place to discuss problem with 9.04 installation?
[20:46] <senorpedro> for shizy
[20:46] <senorpedro> just discuss
[20:47] <mteren> i upgraded to 9.04 and couldn't log in to KDE.  instead logged on to console, and startx
[20:47] <mteren> anyone else having this problem?
[20:49] <akpowered> hey yo
[20:49] <akpowered> yoyo gangsta crap :D
[20:49] <akpowered> o.0
[20:50] <mteren> help anyone?
[20:50] <akpowered> YO
[20:50] <akpowered> :'(
[20:51] <hamit> hi i have a problem with Cheese Webcam Booth. After i close it, my cam's bulb still lights how can i stop it lighting?
[20:54] <thomas__> Hello everyone.  I am having issues with terminal not working on 9,04. Does anyone have a link on how to fix it?
[20:55] <hamit> thomas__ try running it with ALT+F2
[20:57] <thomas__> hamit, konsole brings up blank black screen, terminal saids error creating child process
[20:57] <hamit> any error code or something?
[20:57] <thomas__> "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" with an ok button
[20:58] <thomas__> konsole brings up no message
[20:58] <thomas__> synaptic and updates havnt been working either....have to boot computer into console and then get them
[20:58] <hamit> does everything freeze?
[20:59] <thomas__> no
[20:59] <hamit> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=550260
[20:59] <hamit> you should have a look at that
[21:00] <thomas__> Thanks, will do
[21:01] <hamit> ok
[21:01] <Rasa> When I tried to install Kubuntu I got a very small screen with big letters: what can I do to fix it?
[21:02] <wirechief> Rasa try using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:02] <wirechief> just use defaults for answers
[21:10] <aaroncampbell> I know that for a while, there was a lot of stuff that didn't work on the 64 bit version of Kubuntu.  Is it still a bad idea to use it?
[21:10] <Badger_> weird, when i set the resolution and refreshrate through nvidia-settings at 1280x1024@75Hz kde systemsettings shows 1280x1024 auto (50Hz and 51Hz as options)
[21:12] <Badger_> anybody knows why?
[21:12] <BURNIQUIST> hello
[21:12] <Wolfcastle> hello ppl
[21:12] <Wolfcastle> anyone managed to run gsynaptics in jaunty?
[21:13] <Wolfcastle> I get an error message saying:
[21:13] <wirechief> check this for setting screen resolution http://www.linuxtutorialblog.com/post/solution-resetting-your-screen-resolution-with-xrandr
[21:13] <Wolfcastle> i need to configure SHMConfig in xorg.conf
[21:16] <luigi> ciao
[21:16] <BURNIQUIST> hello ppl
[21:16] <BURNIQUIST> how r u?
[21:18] <francisco_t> Hi, Which is the package for krunner?
[21:20] <Badger_> wirechief: thanks for the suggestion.however the max resolution is 1280x1024@75Hz Kde is showing the wrong value (and under wine applications show the same wrong number)
[21:20] <wirechief> Bader what graphics card and driver are you using ?
[21:21] <dag_> hi there!
[21:21] <dag_>  I want to change my konsole font, but I saw there are only the default ones, not every font i've installed sys-widly; can somone helps me? (kubuntu jaunty)
[21:21] <Badger_> 7600gs with 180.51 driveres
[21:24] <linux> hello
[21:26] <kginsber> hello
[21:27] <dag_> hello
[21:28] <wirechief> !nvidia
[21:28] <wirechief> Badger ^^^
[21:29] <Wolfcastle> so any idea have to enable SHMConfig in jaunty?
[21:29] <Wolfcastle> to be able to use gsynaptics
[21:30] <Badger_> wirechief:  tnx will read :)
[21:30] <justin__> i need some help
[21:30] <justin__> when i get a system notification no sounds play through my speakers i just get a system speaker beep
[21:31] <justin__> anyone??
[21:31] <dag_> justin_:hi! try to take a look at Kmenu ------> System settings ------> sounds
[21:32] <dag_> justin_: sorry,, not sounds, but Notifications
[21:32] <poetamaledetto> ciao...qualcuno qui e italiano?
[21:33] <justin__> ok notifications
[21:33] <justin__> i just get the system "beep"
[21:33] <wirechief> Badger is that 64bit kubuntu you are using ?
[21:33] <Badger_> 32
[21:33] <justin__> from the cpu itself not through the speakers.   i can listen to music and watch movies and the sound works though.  it is very strange
[21:34] <dag_> poetamaledetto: sono italiano, ma qui si parla in inglese; cerca kubuntu-it
[21:34] <wirechief> Badger ok seems you have the latest driver.
[21:35] <poetamaledetto> ah grazie dag...io sono pure alle prime armi,e l inglese non e il mio forte.vado l.ciao e granzie ancora
[21:35] <dag_> justin_: yes, this is by default: quite good for me, 'cause I hate system bell!!! :)
[21:35] <wirechief> Badger you might get help from here  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14
[21:35] <dag_> does anybody knows how to install new fonts in konsole, under kubuntu jaunty (9.04)?
[21:36] <wirechief> Badger proprietary drivers dont get a lot of support form unbuntu , they like the open source issued.
[21:36] <justin__> oh ok
[21:37]  * wirechief looks in his notebook for more notes and cannot find any.
[21:38] <Badger_> wirechief: ok i just setup the xorg config for a fixed mode, going to test that to see if it solves anything.
[21:41] <jean99> hello
[21:42] <jean99> kk1 qui parle le francais
[21:42] <wirechief> Badger_: ok
[21:46] <Wolfcastle> hello
[21:46] <Wolfcastle> I'm trying to run syndaemon to control my touchpad
[21:46] <Wolfcastle> with syndaemon -t -d
[21:46] <Wolfcastle> but I get this error
[21:47] <Wolfcastle> http://pastebin.com/m7266abcb
[21:47] <Wolfcastle> any idea what's wrong ppl?
[21:49] <wirechief> Badger_: whats the story ?
[21:49] <wirechief> Badger_: if you are still having issues check this thread http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=c0507e3e61c5ad6d12dcd958ad366840&t=46678
[21:52] <Badger_> no luck still different values
[21:54] <wirechief> Badger did you compile this driver with the existing kernel ?
[21:58] <aaroncampbell> I upgraded to the latest Kubuntu, and now after I log in my screens go white, then black, and I can't see anything.  However, things must still be working, because I heard my E-Mail notification just a second ago.
[21:59] <aaroncampbell> I have an nVidia card and dual monitors, and was using compiz-fusion
[21:59] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: how did you upgrade ? with new install or from previous
[21:59] <aaroncampbell> from previous
[22:01] <wirechief> was it fully up to date before doing the upgrade ? ie it told you that an upgrade was available ?
[22:01] <aaroncampbell> It told me an upgrade was avaialble.  I'm not sure if it was up to date or not
[22:02] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: I used adept to upgrade...
[22:02] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: hmm well that can be part of the problem i dunno were you using proprietary drivers before the upgrade or just vesa ?
[22:02] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: ok well that should be ok
[22:03] <wirechief> what graphics card are you using ?
[22:03] <aaroncampbell> I was using the Nvidia drivers
[22:03] <wirechief> which version ?
[22:04] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: they were installed through adept, but I think I had to turn on something first, so maybe they ARE proprietary
[22:05] <wirechief> does the /var/log/dpkg.log show that the driver was upgraded ? as you are using a different kernel with the jaunty and the old driver is not compatible.
[22:05] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: well that could be the issue you have, they were compiled for a different kernel than you have now.
[22:06] <wirechief> I would think about uninstalling them and doing a install of the one for jaunty
[22:06] <wirechief> !nvidia
[22:06] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: how can I remove them?
[22:06] <wirechief> read the above
[22:07] <aaroncampbell> Thanks, I'm reading.  By the way, you asked what card.  It's an 8800GTS
[22:07] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: with proprietary when you get a new kernel you need to recompile the sources or get the binary that Ubuntu offers.
[22:08] <webBuilder> here is my question I did upgrade from 8.10 to 9.4 by mistake, thinking that I was not updating the KDE, I really really do not want 4. somehting of KDE how can I can go back to my previous version? my distro is Kubuntu
[22:08] <webBuilder> thank you
[22:08] <wirechief> my experience with other distros that is always the case the drivers had to be recompiled and they always had scripts to do that to make it easier for users.
[22:09] <wirechief> webBuilder: did you try changing the session before login ?
[22:09] <webBuilder> what session
[22:10] <webBuilder> I"m already in 9. something which even the right click copy of KDE 4. somthing is not working
[22:10] <wirechief> webBuilder: on the login screen look to the lower left and clik on the icon and follow it to where you can select the session you want
[22:10] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: It seems that the links assume I'm in KDE ...I can't see anything in KDE.  Any idea how I could get things up and running (even at a poior resolution, etc) so I can follow these instructions?
[22:10] <webBuilder> okay let me try then thank you wirechief
[22:11] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: did you try the randr command ?
[22:11] <aaroncampbell> randr says it's not a command
[22:12] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: what does randr -q   give
[22:13] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: what does xrandr -q   give
[22:13] <wirechief> oops
[22:13] <wirechief> xrandr -s 800x600
[22:13] <wirechief> change to the resolution you want and it supports
[22:13] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: it says: Can't open Display
[22:14] <wirechief> xrandr -q  says that ?
[22:14] <aaroncampbell> yes
[22:14] <aaroncampbell> same thing with -s 800x600
[22:15] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: what does egrep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log    give ? dont flood the channel use pastebinit
[22:16] <powergoal> How do i change the default web browser in kubuntu 9.04?
[22:16] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: are there errors ?
[22:17] <tsimpson> powergoal: System Settings -> Default Applications
[22:17] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: I can't paste off that computer.  However, I can tell you that it gave two things: Uable to locate/open config file *and* open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[22:17] <powergoal> thank you
[22:18] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: try this and paste the url here egrep "EE" /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit
[22:19] <aaroncampbell> http://pastebin.com/f32beebbd
[22:20] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: that worked: http://pastebin.com/f32beebbd
[22:21] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: well that first error is the problem
[22:23] <toninho> oi
[22:23] <aaroncampbell> wirechief: I have that backed up (had problems before) ...Do you think I can just drop it into /etc/X11 ?
[22:23] <toninho> ola
[22:24] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: look at thread #5 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1134915
[22:25] <toninho> oi
[22:25] <Mac42DO> Hi! I used to spin down the hard-drive with windows with hdparm -y /deb/sdb1, because the hard drive ist ver loud. Since the update to jaunty, ist spins up again immediatly. I shut down almost every process, but it doesn help. What can be the reason?
[22:29] <yms> .
[22:33] <vlada_> hi
[22:33] <wirechief> aaroncampbell: its possible if you have a backup of xorg.conf you could try it and or google around for other peoples solutions, another here http://koroshiyaitchy.wordpress.com/2009/04/25/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-customised-for-performance-on-a-nexoc-osiris-e705iii-clevo-m57ru-laptop/
[22:34] <vlada_> I need some help with package update in kubuntu 9.04.
[22:34] <vlada_> reading http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2-beta-3 is clear only to some point
[22:34] <vlada_> I've added repository, as said
[22:35] <vlada_> but amarok update wont appear
[22:35] <wirechief> vlada_:  did you do apt-get update before trying ? was it free of errors ?
[22:36] <vlada_> wirechief: you're right
[22:36] <vlada_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9423A34CCA967634
[22:36] <vlada_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[22:37] <wirechief> vlada you need to add the keys
[22:37] <vlada_> wirechief: how do I do that?
[22:37] <ign0ramus> vlada_:
[22:37] <ign0ramus> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 9423A34CCA967634 && gpg
[22:37] <ign0ramus> --armor --export 9423A34CCA967634|sudo apt-key add -
[22:37] <wirechief> gpg --keyserver pgpkeys.mit.edu --recv-key 2EBC26B60C5A2783  substitute the right code
[22:37] <ign0ramus> sorry about the multiple lines
[22:38] <ign0ramus> vlada_: you want to run that as a single command
[22:38] <wirechief> gpg -a --export 2EBC26B60C5A2783 | sudo apt-key add -     then do with this
[22:38] <wirechief> substitute the right coding
[22:38] <wirechief>  9423A34CCA967634
[22:39] <vlada_> wirechief: ign0ramus: thanx
[22:40] <ign0ramus> vlada_: np
[22:40] <wirechief> vlada_: np fly high
[22:40] <ign0ramus> wirechief: whats it called when there's a short command (like -d) that does the same thing as a longer command (like --disable)?
[22:40] <wirechief> ign0ramus: ;)
[22:41] <christina> hey where do i get a easy guide ?
[22:41] <wirechief> thats just the shorter of the two sometimes one works the other doesnt
[22:41] <wirechief> christina:  try google for howto
[22:41] <ign0ramus> wirechief: yeah, but there's nomenclature that distinguishes the two, and i can't remember what they're called
[22:42] <wirechief> christina howto whatever you are looking for
[22:42] <wirechief> ign0ramus:  check the command syntax with man commandname
[22:42] <ign0ramus> wirechief
[22:42] <ign0ramus> thanks... didn't even think to use it
[22:43] <skierpage> How can I get a history of package installations in Kubuntu 9.04? (KPackagKit [History] button is, uh, disappointing.)
[22:43] <skierpage> Some dog on the Internet told me to install a package, it didn't work, now I can't remember its name.
[22:43] <wirechief> ign0ramus: however it takes experience with that man stuff,  just learn to do simple things then the more complex will follow
[22:44] <wirechief> skierpage: just do cat /var/log/dpkg.log
[22:44] <ign0ramus> wirechief: so i've found :)
[22:44] <wirechief> skierpage: just do cat /var/log/dpkg.log |name of package
[22:44] <wirechief> skierpage: just do cat /var/log/dpkg.log |grep nameofpackage
[22:44] <ign0ramus> skierpage: aptitude search ~i  will also give you a long list
[22:46] <wirechief> ign0ramus:   aptitude search ~i |grep alsa
[22:46]  * eagles0513875 starts grumbling
[22:46] <wirechief> ign0ramus: ;)
[22:47]  * eagles0513875 starts to swear at konqueror
[22:47] <ign0ramus> wirechief: but he doesn't know the name of the package, which makes it tricky...
[22:47]  * wirechief loves dolphin
[22:47]  * ign0ramus hates dolphin, but is learning to live with it
[22:47] <wirechief> ign0ramus: if you know the date it can be easier
[22:48] <ign0ramus> wirechief: how do you sort by date?
[22:48] <akpowered> yo
[22:48] <akpowered> yo
[22:48] <akpowered> :D
[22:48] <akpowered> man ls
[22:49] <eagles0513875> akpowered: this isnt the command line to man ls in lol
[22:49] <christina> thanks...but i have this problem...get message- could not find a uable proxy???help please
[22:49] <akpowered> xD jk
[22:49] <christina> try to go on google....but cant
[22:49] <akpowered> i only see sort by date :P
[22:49] <akpowered> he can check himself :)
[22:49] <skierpage> wirechief++!  Out of curiosity, do apt, aptitude, adept, KPackageKit, Synaptic, /usr/bin/package-install etc. all write to /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[22:50] <akpowered> humm
[22:50] <kreal> hi everyone
[22:50] <wirechief> cat /var/log/dpkg.log |grep 2009-04-17
[22:50] <akpowered> bye :) PS: LINUX OWN.. Particulary Ubuntu
[22:50]  * skierpage is in a maze of package managers
[22:50] <ign0ramus> wirechief: aha!  now that is usable!
[22:50] <kreal> can you tll me hoxw launch a video cenversation on kopete? (i have kubuntu 9.04 64x)
[22:51] <wirechief> skierpage: check the /var/log/dpkg.log and see if it does when you use those for installing a package, i dont use them just apt-get
[22:51] <Whipper_> normally its best to use just one manager.. if you have to do it with gui..
[22:52] <wirechief> Whipper_: yes one package manager, mixing will screw things up.
[22:52] <Dragnslcr> skierpage- just remember that the basic package manager is apt (as in apt-get), and everything else is just a GUI for it
[22:52] <skierpage> Whipper_ I agree, but strangers on IRC have recommended all of those and more 8-/
[22:52]  * ign0ramus recommends CLI
[22:52] <Dragnslcr> wirechief- mixing GUI's won't screw anything up, since they're all just frontends for apt
[22:52] <Whipper_> and also, no listening to strangers in irc :)
[22:52] <hggdh> question(s): what utility collects data on KDE crashes? Is it equivalent to apport?
[22:53] <wirechief> skierpage: well use one not different ones, you'll create a mess after a while because some use different ways of marking
[22:53] <kreal> can you help me to launch a video conversation on kopete ?! (kubuntu 9.04 64x )
[22:53] <dag_> hi there! does anybody knows how to install new fonts in konsole, under kubuntu jaunty (9.04)?
[22:54] <skierpage> dag_, Settings > Current Profile > Appearance > Edit Font... ?
[22:54] <ign0ramus> dag_: i have just copied fonts over to /usr/share/fonts and restarted X and generally, they would be available.  There's probably an official way...
[22:55] <skierpage> dag_ System Settings > Font Installer
[22:55] <wirechief> Dragnslcr: maybe not while your using one version but when you upgrade hold your breath
[22:55] <Dragnslcr> wirechief- that made no sense
[22:56] <dag_> skierpage e ign0ramus: that's the way to install the fonts sytem widely, and I've already done it, but those fonts aren't selectable in konsole
[22:56] <skierpage> dag_, maybe Konsole will only let you select a monospace font.
[22:56] <joshjtl> can someone help me figure out where the patch or the patched version of xserver-xorg-video-intel  from this bug is located?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/359392
[22:57] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: many guis see dependencies etc different than the other, and that causes problems, and thats just one thing..
[22:57] <wirechief> joshjtl: are you subscribed to the intel bug ?
[22:57] <dag_> skierpage: may be...I hope there was a way to use some ttf and otf as well
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- I've never heard anything about that, and if it's true, there are some broken programs around
[22:57] <joshjtl> wirechief: no i can be
[22:58] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- like I said, programs like Adept, KPackageKit, aptitude, etc. are all just frontends for apt
[22:58] <vlada_> I need help once again...
[22:58] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: i ment synaptic etc
[22:58] <vlada_>   amarok-kde4: Depends: libgpod3-nogtk (>= 0.6.0) but it is not installable or
[22:58] <vlada_>                         libgpod3 (>= 0.6.0) but it is not installable
[22:58] <wirechief> joshjtl: search for this repo 2009-04-27 22:30:40 status installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg 2:2.7.99.1+git20090427.e55d9431-0ubuntu0sarvatt
[22:58] <vlada_> seems that there are none available
[22:59] <joshjtl> thanks a lot wirechief
[22:59] <wirechief> joshjtl: sarvatt
[22:59] <dag_> vlada: sudo aptitude install libgpod3-nogtk
[23:00] <skierpage> dag_ ttf and otf should work.  I think there are terminal programs that let you use any font, forcing it to monospace.
[23:00] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- synaptic is also just a frontend to apt
[23:00] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: yes, i know, so?
[23:00] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- as far as dependencies are concerned, every one of them should just be going with what apt-get says
[23:00] <dag_> skierpage: have some clue on where I can find information concerning these programs?
[23:01] <vlada_> dag_: No candidate version found for libgpod3-nogtk
[23:01] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: nope, they do just as u tell them to do, or by default, what is different in each one of them
[23:01] <joshjtl> wirechief: i subscribed to the bug, what will that do for me? just notify me in the future?
[23:02] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- you're going to have to show some example of different apt frontends handling dependencies differently
[23:02] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- I have trouble believing any of them will do anything different from what apt tells them to
[23:03] <dag_> vlada: sudo aptitude install libgpod4 ?
[23:03] <skierpage> Dragnslcr, I'm confused, I don't have apt installed yet the package front-ends work.  And where does dpkg fit in?
[23:03] <Dragnslcr> skierpage- of course you have apt installed. If you didn't, none of the package managers would work
[23:03] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: so you are saying, that by default, synaptic and uhm.. some other package-manager treats depencies the same way?
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- yes, of course they do, because they're all just frontends to apt
[23:04] <Dragnslcr> skierpage- dpkg installs individual packages. apt handles things like dependencies and fetching the packages from a repository
[23:05] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: well.. then why there is so many variables u can/have to change or manage in each one of the gui-managers?
[23:05] <skierpage> So /var/log/dpkg.log shows "install alsa-oss", but not which front-end installed it.  Should I remove with `aptitude purge alsa-oss`(or maybe it doesn't matter).
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> skierpage- you'll very rarely, if ever, have to use dpkg directly
[23:05] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- such as?
[23:05] <ign0ramus> skierpage: it doesn't matter which frontend installed it.  they all use apt.
[23:05] <vlada_> dag_: that package is available
[23:05] <vlada_> but I still can't get amarok!
[23:06] <Whipper_> Dragnslcr: arent you familiar with the subject?
[23:06] <dag_> vlada: you can give it a try
[23:06] <noaXess> hey hey
[23:06] <noaXess> was up?
[23:06] <Dragnslcr> Whipper_- you just said that you can set different variables, but I don't know what variables you're talking about
[23:06] <skierpage> Dragnslcr, you're right, I typed `apt -help` and got a "The program 'apt' can be found in the following packages:" message, not realizing it's `apt-config`, `apt-get`, etc.
[23:07] <ign0ramus> Whipper_: some of the gui's for apt may have different options, but all they're doing is calling different commands and flags to apt.
[23:07] <vlada_> dag_: yup! I did.
[23:07] <dag_> vlada: if it doesn't the trick, than you can "sudo aptitude purge libgpod4"
[23:07] <Dragnslcr> skierpage- yup, there's no individual program called apt
[23:07] <Whipper_> nevö mind..
[23:07] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr: "apt is already the newest version."
[23:07] <vlada_> dag_: http://pastebin.ca/1408947
[23:08] <ign0ramus> vlada_: did you run 'sudo apt-get -f install' ?
[23:08] <Dragnslcr> ign0ramus- yeah, that's the package apt. I meant there's no program named apt
[23:08] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr: gotcha
[23:08] <Dragnslcr> i.e. the programs are apt-get, apt-cache, etc.
[23:09] <vlada_> ign0ramus: nope :(
[23:09] <vlada_> sudo apt-get -f install amarok-kde4 ?
[23:09] <ign0ramus> vlada_: see if that clears the 'broken' status...
[23:09] <wirechief> joshjtl: they will be making a SRU if this current testing of the fixed packages is successful so everyone will have get updated.
[23:09] <ign0ramus> vlada_: no, just run the command by itself first
[23:09] <vlada_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:10] <ign0ramus> vlada_: does it still give you an error if you build-dep?
[23:10] <ign0ramus> vlada_: i would imagine it does, but it's worth a shot
[23:10] <vlada_> ign0ramus: how can I test it?
[23:10] <ign0ramus> vlada_: 'sudo apt-get build-dep amarok-kde-4'
[23:11] <dag_> vlada: did you put in /etc/apt/sources.list the ppa.launchoad.net experimental repositories?
[23:11] <Byron> I can't seem to get Kubuntu 9.04 installed on my laptop. I used the same CD on my desktop without a problem. I get an error message about the loading of the CD
[23:11] <ign0ramus> vlada_: or 'kde4' (no dash) whatever the package name is
[23:11] <Dragnslcr> Hm, anybody else get a terminal type "dumb" in konsole on a new 9.04 install?
[23:11] <vlada_> E: Unable to find a source package for amarok-kde4
[23:12] <vlada_> that's when I try build-dep
[23:12] <dag_> vlada: listen
[23:12] <wirechief> Byron did you do a integrity check first when used on the laptop ?
[23:12] <dag_> vlada: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:12] <Byron> The error message is: "isolinux: Dis error 10, AX = 4200, drive AC"
[23:12] <dag_> vlada: add at the bottom this two repositories
[23:12] <ign0ramus> vlada_: i should probably ask... what version of kde are you running?
[23:12] <Byron> wirechief: No.
[23:13] <wirechief> Byron best do
[23:13] <dag_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:13] <vlada_> ign0ramus: kde4.2.2
[23:13] <Byron> wirechief: How? I can't load from the CD
[23:13] <dag_> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[23:13] <ign0ramus> vlada_: add the repositories dag_ is listing and try again
[23:13] <wirechief> Byron you never see grub ?
[23:13] <skierpage> vlada_ did you try http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Kubuntu  ?  (I added instructions for Amarok 2.1beta that worked for me.)
[23:13] <Byron> wirechief: When trying to load from CD, no
[23:14] <wirechief> Byron what about from the other computer ?
[23:14] <Byron> The desktop is running fine without any issues
[23:15] <dag_> vlada: are you still there?
[23:15] <wirechief> Byron your media could be corrupt, im suggesting a check of it would confirm yes or no .
[23:16] <Byron> I tried to connect with the CD/DVD drive I have for my netbook and it didn't read it from there.
[23:16] <wirechief> Byron you can also do md5sum /dev/cdrom with the cd in the player and see if it comes up with the correct md5sum
[23:16] <dag_> vlada: then you should "sudo aptitude purge amarok && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install amarok"
[23:16] <dag_> vlada: you can copy and paste the whole command escluding the quotes
[23:17] <Byron> wirechief: Where do I find the original md5 for the CD?
[23:17] <vlada_> dag_: I'm trying to follow you
[23:17] <vlada_> but I can't copy/paste that fast :)
[23:17] <wirechief> Byron did you download from www.distrowatch.com or some other place ?
[23:17] <ign0ramus> dag_: wait, he said he's running kde 4.2.2 - isn't the package just called 'amarok'?
[23:17] <andy__> can somebody help me fix my sound problem in flash?
[23:17] <dag_> vlada: thanks for your consideration :)
[23:17] <skierpage> Any suggestions for "no sound in Flash?"  I let Konq install flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer, and I manually installed libxine1-ffmpeg for MP3 in Amarok, but Flash movies are silent.
[23:18] <andy__> yeah same here. also imeem does not work
[23:18] <wirechief> Byron is it 32 bit desktop or 64bit desktop ?
[23:18] <Byron> wirechief: isohunt.com; torrent
[23:18] <dag_> ign0ramus: yes, that's what i told him ;)
[23:18] <Byron> 32-bit desktop
[23:18] <skierpage> andy__ are you on Kubuntu 9.04 64-bit like me?
[23:19] <andy__> no ubuntu 9.04. accidentally got in ehre but i figured it should be similiar
[23:19] <andy__> if i turn up my speakers all the way i can hear a little sound
[23:19] <ign0ramus> dag_: but if you see what he's been trying to do... he keeps trying to install "amarok-kde4", which is unnecessary
[23:19] <ign0ramus> dag_: i wonder if that is half the problem...
[23:19] <andy__> but imeem and myspace music players dont work either. but the flash ads will display on the same page
[23:20] <dag_> ign0ramus: of course that's half a problem, but without those repository he should has some bugs
[23:20] <skierpage> andy__ , does http://www.skierpage.com/olpc/flash_tests/embed_car_smash.html make any sound?
[23:20] <ign0ramus> andy__: i had a similar problem... installed all packages called 'flashplugin' in KPackageKit, and flash sound worked upon a reboot...
[23:20] <wirechief> Byron 537a22de1342d5671b7e0070f66a6076 *kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[23:21] <ign0ramus> dag_: i only have the Canonical repos, and Amarok works fine.
[23:21] <ign0ramus> dag_: isn't it installed by default?
[23:21] <Byron> wirechief: I tried to md5sum /dev/cdrom, but it resulted with 'Input/output error"
[23:21] <dag_> ign0ramus: did you make a fresh install, right?
[23:22] <ign0ramus> dag_: yeah, the upgrade ... well, it didn't work.  Yeah, fresh install.
[23:22] <dag_> ign0ramus: he seems to be upgrading a intrepid installation
[23:22] <wirechief> Byron is the cd mounted ?
[23:22] <Byron> wirechief: yes
[23:22] <ign0ramus> dag_: hmmm... i thought it would be brought in by kubuntu-desktop or some such...
[23:22] <vlada_> dag_: it works
[23:22] <vlada_> :)
[23:22] <ign0ramus> dag_: huzzah!
[23:23] <vlada_> thank you a lot
[23:23] <wirechief> Byron do you have a usb stick  ? you could make a startup usb stick and maybe use it ...
[23:23] <Byron> Sadly, no. I had one, but tried to put Billix on it and failed. The USB drive won't read anymore.
[23:24] <firevai> hey everyone
[23:24] <skierpage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok2 for intrepid says "Deleted in intrepid-release  (Reason: now amarok-kde4)"
[23:24] <firevai> quick question
[23:24] <dag_> vlada: that's a pleasure and the spirit of such a community! you're welcome!
[23:24] <dag_> :)
[23:24] <firevai> i got win and ubuntu on the same hd
[23:24] <wirechief> Byron is this a cd or a dvd and if dvd is it a r/w dvd ?
[23:25] <dag_> ign0ramus: what's "huzzah!" ???
[23:25] <firevai> i'm trying to reinstall windows, and when i boot from cdrom it keeps kicking it back to bio's screen.. where it says to hit any key to boot from cdrom...
[23:25] <firevai> is that grub doing that?
[23:25] <vlada_> BTW, what is ubuntu policy on such upgrades? would it automaticaly go into standar updates, or would I need to wait another ubuntu release (9.10)?
[23:25] <Byron> wirechief: It is a CD
[23:25] <ign0ramus> dag_: an exclamation of victory or happiness, generally only used hundreds of years ago, but is kept alive by the denizens of IRC
[23:26] <wirechief> Byron something is not right with that media you should be able to get a md5sum from it. I would suggest you try booting up to it on the working computer and do the integrity test from grub
[23:26] <dag_> ign0ramus: is this like a kind of haxxor term that means hurray?
[23:26] <ign0ramus> dag_: i have not heard that definition quite like that before, but yeah, same idea ;)
[23:27] <ign0ramus> dag_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huzzah
[23:27] <wirechief> Bryon just do a menu selection for the test
[23:27] <ign0ramus> brb dinner
[23:28] <Byron> wirechief: I have the desktop doing some work for me right now, but I will ASAP. Thanks for the help and guidance.
[23:28] <wirechief> Byron ok good luck
[23:29] <skierpage> ign0ramus_nom, I did that (just two packages match flashplugin), and no flash sound even after reboot.  Main audio is Creative Audigy ZS, works fine in desktop and Amarok. :-(
[23:30] <skierpage> Does Flash use Alsa/ESS/OSS/ ? maybe there's a configuration at a lower level.  Or maybe it's a 64/32-bit thing
[23:30] <vlada_> skierpage: after version 8 they started to use ALSA
[23:34] <cjae> ok what am I doing wrong with 9.04 I used the hardware drivers app to install my nvidia driver, and choose separate x screens because I cant stand apps opening in wrong windows but now and since 8.10 I cannot get anything on my tv but and X
[23:35] <skierpage> vlada_ Thanks, I'm trying Deleted in intrepid-release  (Reason: now amarok-kde4)
[23:35] <cjae> and I think now that xorg.conf doesnt make a difference now is that correct?
[23:35] <skierpage> vlada_ uh I mean http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/TroubleShooting :-)
[23:36] <utente> iuu+
[23:40] <dag_> ign0ramus: thanks for your tip
[23:41] <ign0ramus> dag_: what tip?
[23:41] <wirechief> cjae its not suppose to but some users like me with intel have to make special setting to prevent freezes
[23:41] <vlada_> cjae: do you have nvidia-settings app installed (or something with similar name)
[23:41] <skierpage> Folks, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/SoundcardTesting is pure gold for Alsa woes.  In my case unlike Phonon Xine it's using some motherboard chip instead of my Audigy ZS.
[23:42] <ign0ramus> wirechief: did you enable the 'greedy' settings in xorg.conf?
[23:42] <cjae> vlada_: yes I did sudo nvidia-settings and enabled the tv (separate x screens)
[23:43] <wirechief> ign0ramus:  yes Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
[23:43] <vlada_> and..? does it works?
[23:43] <ign0ramus> wirechief: i've enabled UXA, but didn't enable 'greedy' ... would you recommend it? (Intel chipset here too)
[23:44] <wirechief> ign0ramus: i will give you a link to some good info
[23:44] <pedro_> hello
[23:45] <ign0ramus> wirechief: well, i've got X using 5% cpu (down from about 45%), now my only issue is choppy flash video...
[23:45] <vlada_> skierpage: hehe I've experienced exactly the same problem a few months ago :)
[23:45] <cjae> vlada_: me? no it doesnt and hasnt since 8.10, all I get is a cursor with an x, I have also tried to use a copy of xorg.conf that I keep for tv out (svideo) (separate x screens)
[23:45] <wirechief> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582
[23:45] <dag_> pedro: hi
[23:45] <ign0ramus> wirechief: is that kernel stable/
[23:45] <wirechief> ign0ramus: ^^^
[23:45] <cjae> vlada_: I have even filled bug reports about it like 5 months ago
[23:46] <vlada_> cjae: but you have one screen working, no?
[23:46] <ign0ramus> wirechief: i was reading that one last night(!), but i don't want to install a new kernel unless it's necessary
[23:46] <cjae> vlada_: yes I am using it right now
[23:47] <wirechief> ign0ramus: well just wait until they release it
[23:47] <ign0ramus> wirechief: how long, do you think?
[23:47] <ign0ramus> wirechief: if its in a few days/weeks, i can wait. otherwise, i'll give it a try.
[23:48] <wirechief> ign0ramus: have no idea... this is what i currently use : Linux wirechief-laptop 2.6.30-020630rc2-generic #020630rc2 SMP Wed Apr 15 13:20:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:48] <ign0ramus> me --> 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:48] <ign0ramus> wirechief: do you have good playback in fullscreen Flash now?
[23:49] <wirechief> ign0ramus: also i have the PPA's for the fixes so my xorg.conf is not really a standard xorg.conf
[23:49] <pedro_> i have a compaq cq 60 and i use kubuntu 9.04 the lock botton of the mousepad doesnt work can you help me
[23:49] <ign0ramus> wirechief: i've edited mine as well, but only for UXA and dontzap
[23:49] <wirechief> ign0ramus: i dont know, but my penquin racer flys like a jet
[23:49] <ign0ramus> wirechief: haha!
[23:50] <wirechief> i keep hitting the darn trees ;(
[23:50] <ign0ramus> wirechief: i could still revert to my old kernel, right?
[23:50] <cjae> is anyone here using one monitor and one tv with an nvidia card, and in separate x screens mode? in kubuntu 9.04
[23:50] <wirechief> sure
[23:50] <ign0ramus> wirechief: also, will using a different kernel employ a separate xorg.conf or will they all access the same file?
[23:50] <wirechief> linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic  still here
[23:51] <cjae> I used to do this in many distros and now something has severly changed
[23:51] <wirechief> ign0ramus: i use the same but modified as per that howto
[23:51] <ign0ramus> wirechief: But will booting to a different kernel use a different xorg?
[23:51] <wirechief> ign0ramus: also i am subscribed to the linux geeks web page where this first showed up
[23:52] <wirechief> ign0ramus: no its same
[23:52] <ign0ramus> wirechief: hmm... i just might give it a try... my graphics are glitchy as hell
[23:52] <wirechief> ign0ramus: i keep a backup of it just in case i need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:53] <ign0ramus> wirechief: i wish dpkg would give you the option of keeping particular lines instead of just overwriting...
[23:53] <wirechief> i have not had any freezes since applying the suggestions from that thread
[23:53] <ign0ramus> wirechief: heh... I'm doing it now.
[23:53] <wirechief> i am currently using uxa too
[23:54] <ign0ramus> wirechief: is that all covered in the HOWTO?
[23:54] <wirechief> the big fix seems to be this in xorg.conf Virtual 2048 2048
[23:54] <ign0ramus> wirechief: i want to keep my optimizations i've already edited in.
[23:55] <vlada_> cjae: I'm sorry that I can't help you :(
[23:55] <vlada_> I'm using twinmode on other computer, but that's totally different matter
[23:57] <wirechief> ign0ramus:  use at your own risk, the setting for ram is determined by calculation based on my
[23:57] <wirechief> Memory at f8100000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1M]
[23:57] <wirechief> 	Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[23:58] <wirechief> http://pastebin.com/f3f2a06cf  my xorg.conf
[23:58] <ign0ramus> wirechief: wow, that's a full "Device" entry!
[23:58]  * wirechief loaded for bear
[23:59] <ign0ramus> wirechief: so this uses the mesa driver?