| ds305 | Hey all, looking for a gedit user, especially one who does scripting with it. But anyone will do. ;-) | 00:30 |
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| Taim | scripting with it? | 00:34 |
| Taim | you mean writing plugins or using it for scripting? | 00:34 |
| ds305 | No, I'm looking to make sure a tab no longer exists. Thanks. | 00:34 |
| ds305 | Thanks. I'm updating the gedit wiki page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gedit It shows a Highlight Syntax tab. I need confirmation it no longer exists. | 00:34 |
| ds305 | You get to it via Edit, Prefs, but I think it's been removed from later versions of gedit. | 00:35 |
| Taim | It is gone. | 00:35 |
| Taim | I have: View, Editor, Font & Colors and Plugins. | 00:35 |
| ds305 | TY. If I could ask another question. Do you have an entry in the bottom status bar ... I think you just answered my next one. | 00:36 |
| ds305 | The bottom bar has the type of code. I suppose that is the Editor entry. | 00:36 |
| Taim | Yes, there is a drop-bar at the botom with they syntax type. | 00:36 |
| Taim | Do you want fresh screenshots? I can fire them up to my site for you to snarf. | 00:37 |
| ds305 | I've taken the screen shots but haven't uploaded them. I wanted to make sure the Highlight Syntax tab didn't exist. | 00:37 |
| ds305 | The bottom status bar on mine seems a bit different than yours. I'm using 2.26.1 | 00:38 |
| Taim | Same here. | 00:38 |
| ds305 | I appears the bottom changes according to what file is open (besides the syntax window). | 00:39 |
| ds305 | Maybe not, but I don't see the Plugins window, just syntax, tab width and line info. | 00:39 |
| Taim | Same here. | 00:40 |
| Taim | OH! | 00:40 |
| Taim | OK. | 00:40 |
| Taim | I was looking at the settings tab in edit, preferences. | 00:40 |
| ds305 | Ah, ok. | 00:40 |
| Taim | The status bar shows: doc type, tab, line, column and "INS" | 00:40 |
| ds305 | Same here. Do you recall ever using/seeing the Highlight Syntax tab. I think it's been gone since 2.18, which was about 7.10 IIRC. | 00:41 |
| ds305 | I never used it and it took me a long time this afternoon to determine it was no longer around. | 00:42 |
| ds305 | Thanks for your assistance Taim. | 00:43 |
| Taim | No problem | 00:50 |
| Rocket2DMn | nhandler, wanna help me with bzr? | 00:50 |
| nhandler | Rocket2DMn: We're about to eat dinner. Are you going to be online in about 30-45 minutes? | 01:05 |
| Rocket2DMn | yeah nhandler | 01:06 |
| Rocket2DMn | go eat :) | 01:06 |
| Rocket2DMn | lol mail spam on bug fixes mdke ! | 01:33 |
| cody-somerville | mdke, fyi, I'm not ignoring all the great threads on ubuntu-doc - just been busy with work and the release. | 02:00 |
| mfitzhugh | Hi all - Could someone lend me a hand with a newbie bzr problem, please? | 20:47 |
| mfitzhugh | I just need to figure out how to "reset" my local copy of karmic system docs | 20:55 |
| mdke | mfitzhugh: sure, just a sec - phone call | 20:58 |
| mfitzhugh | Thanks! | 20:58 |
| mdke | mfitzhugh: sorry, I'm here now | 21:16 |
| mdke | mfitzhugh: so do you want to undo changes that you've made? losing them forever? | 21:16 |
| mfitzhugh | Cool, thanks mdke. So I'm trying to make sure I have all the latest karmic docs before diving into a bug | 21:16 |
| mfitzhugh | Yes. I want a clean slate | 21:17 |
| mdke | have you committed any changes with "bzr commit"? | 21:17 |
| mfitzhugh | I commited one file yesterday during emma-janes bzr demo in Open Week | 21:18 |
| mdke | ok, so if you've just done one commit, you can run "bzr uncommit" in the tree | 21:18 |
| mfitzhugh | Just issue "bzr uncommit" on its own? Or do I need to specify the file I committed | 21:19 |
| mdke | on its own will be fine | 21:19 |
| mdke | (I hope) | 21:20 |
| mfitzhugh | O.k. Did that. Now "bzr merge"? | 21:20 |
| mdke | do "bzr status" to see if you have any uncommitted changes | 21:20 |
| mfitzhugh | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/161675/ | 21:22 |
| mdke | hmm, you have a conflict there | 21:22 |
| mdke | that happens when you merge something which conflicts with your own branch | 21:23 |
| mdke | to undo your local changes, do "bzr revert" | 21:23 |
| mfitzhugh | Hmmm... mabye that happened when I was screwing around on my own trying to figure things out earlier today. Ok... here's what I got | 21:24 |
| mfitzhugh | R about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml.OTHER => about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml | 21:24 |
| mfitzhugh | M debian/changelog | 21:24 |
| mdke | now see if "bzr status" gives you anything | 21:25 |
| mfitzhugh | Clean! | 21:25 |
| mdke | jolly good | 21:25 |
| mfitzhugh | So I should be back in sync now? | 21:25 |
| mdke | now let's just check for good order what revision you have | 21:25 |
| mdke | do "bzr log -l 4" | 21:25 |
| mdke | bzr log will dump all the revision history, and the -l 4 bit gives you the last 4 revisions | 21:26 |
| mfitzhugh | Yup. I'm up to revno: 289 | 21:26 |
| mdke | ok, the latest in the branch on Launchpad is 290, so you can do "bzr pull lp:ubuntu-doc/karmic" | 21:27 |
| mdke | (the "karmic" bit isn't strictly necessary, because lp:ubuntu-doc defaults to karmic at the moment, but I put it in so that if you happen to get other branches, you see how it works) | 21:28 |
| mdke | in fact, just "bzr pull" on its own is normally enough, because bzr remembers the pull location | 21:28 |
| mfitzhugh | Ok. Now I'm up to revno: 290. Cool! Thanks for the help! It's been a while since I've used version control. | 21:28 |
| mdke | no worries | 21:28 |
| mdke | each revision control system is different :) | 21:29 |
| mdke | so what are you working on? | 21:29 |
| mfitzhugh | So true. -- I'm trying to tackle https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/129505 | 21:29 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 129505 in ubuntu-docs "Docs required on desktop search tools" [Wishlist,New] | 21:29 |
| mdke | cool | 21:30 |
| mdke | that bug raises a little twist to the usual procedures | 21:30 |
| mdke | if you're looking at amending the "user-guide" document, you should be aware that this document isn't present in ubuntu-docs | 21:30 |
| mdke | it's a document that we get from upstream, and is found in the gnome-user-docs package | 21:31 |
| mdke | so we have a different bzr branch for that document | 21:31 |
| mfitzhugh | I'm not really sure what I'm doing yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out with help. -- Oh! That's good to know. I was thinking it was a matter of altering and ubuntu-doc to link to a gnome doc. What's the branch for the gnome docs? | 21:32 |
| mdke | here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-karmic | 21:32 |
| mfitzhugh | So I need to bzr pull lp:https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-karmic | 21:32 |
| mfitzhugh | Is that right | 21:32 |
| mdke | not quite | 21:33 |
| mdke | you do: | 21:33 |
| mdke | bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-karmic | 21:33 |
| mdke | if you ever forget, it's written towards the top of the Launchpad page for the branch | 21:33 |
| mfitzhugh | Oh, I see. b/c branch is for creating new copies while pull is to turn a branch into a mirror of another branch | 21:34 |
| mdke | you can use http addresses with bzr, but if you do, you would remove the "lp:" bit, and the branch you get wouldn't support write access | 21:34 |
| mdke | yes, that's right | 21:34 |
| mfitzhugh | Cool. You just saved me a ton of confusion. Thanks! Any other pointers or tips on this oneL | 21:35 |
| mdke | the other question to consider would be whether it's a change that should be submitted directly to Gnome, upstream, or which we should do in our branch | 21:36 |
| mdke | we don't have to decide that now | 21:36 |
| mdke | but in any event my initial thought would be that we should do the change in our branch, because tracker isn't officially part of Gnome, as I understand it | 21:37 |
| philip_ | that was wordy ;) | 21:38 |
| philip_ | is there a recommended ubuntu vmware appliance for doc writing? | 21:38 |
| mfitzhugh | But it's part of the Ubuntu distro's Gnome :-) I understand (I think) | 21:38 |
| mdke | right | 21:38 |
| mfitzhugh | Cool. Alright. Off to work with me. Thanks again, mdke! | 21:39 |
| mdke | philip_: don't think so - but I might not understand the question | 21:39 |
| mdke | mfitzhugh: no worries, good luck | 21:39 |
| mdke | mfitzhugh: feel free to mail the list if you get stuck | 21:39 |
| mfitzhugh | Will do | 21:39 |
| philip_ | or generally a good ubuntu virtual machine... that can later be setup to write docs for SystemDocumentation | 21:42 |
| mdke | philip_: if you run Ubuntu already, then you don't need a virtual machine, right? | 21:43 |
| mdke | in Windows, I use virtualbox | 21:43 |
| philip_ | i run mac, and want something for vmware fusion | 21:43 |
| mdke | ah, I don't know. I only just discovered virtualbox, and love it to bits | 21:44 |
| philip_ | yeah, i'm fairly new too and love it | 21:44 |
| mdke | you could give it a try if you like | 21:44 |
| mdke | it says it runs on mac | 21:45 |
| philip_ | okay, here goes! | 21:46 |
| mdke | :) | 21:46 |
| mdke | you download a standard Ubuntu iso and then just install using it (no need to burn to a CD) | 21:46 |
| philip_ | sometimes it's nice to already have it all setup by some intelligent geek so we don't have to worry about it :) | 21:47 |
| DougieRichardson | phil uses VM for his writing | 21:49 |
| mdke | philip_: is that what vmware does? | 21:49 |
| DougieRichardson | mdke: you can download pre-configured vmware images | 21:50 |
| mdke | I see | 21:51 |
| DougieRichardson | vmwares player is free but the server wasn't (not sure if is now or not), hence you needed someone to make the images | 21:54 |
| philip_ | yeah, sometimes it's nice because it's simple, fast, and typically less to download... also simple to try all sorts of distros and stuff people make | 22:27 |
| philip_ | ideally a nice vmware appliance would exist that has all the desired tools setup | 22:34 |
| mdke | philip_: that would be cool, definitely | 22:41 |
| philip_ | am setting up virtualbox now. should i be playing with some developmental version of ubuntu or stick with 9.04? | 22:43 |
| mdke | the next version is pretty much just started, so there isn't much to play with at the moment | 22:43 |
| mdke | I'd go with 9.04 | 22:43 |
| mdke | if you want to upgrade, you can save the state and upgrade, then revert to the saved state if it goes wrong :) | 22:44 |
| philip_ | saving states is for the weak! | 22:45 |
| mdke | heh | 22:45 |
| philip_ | am trying Netbook Remix for kicks, this will be fine? | 22:45 |
| mdke | sure | 22:45 |
| mdke | netbook remix comes with an easy way of switching to the regular desktop | 22:47 |
| dsas_ | is there any reason for keeping the various alt & f2 methods of running apps rather than just using the menus> | 22:48 |
| mdke | dsas_: only for programs which aren't in the menu | 22:49 |
| dsas_ | mdke: Thought as much, we have both methods in some places. Just so that the user has the choice of which way they want to start the app. | 22:51 |
| dsas_ | would be nice if we could have a button to click to start an app. | 22:51 |
| mdke | oh yeah | 22:51 |
| mdke | I wonder if that could b done | 22:51 |
| dsas_ | mdke: not currently as far as I can tell. | 23:12 |
| dsas_ | I think yelp passes a lot of that stuff on to gecko | 23:13 |
| mdke | dsas_: ok, not to worry. The menu entry is the right way to go then IMO | 23:13 |
| mdke | wow, fooka has rocked the wiki today | 23:54 |
| mdke | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges | 23:54 |
| mdke | Rocket2DMn: is he one of your soldiers? | 23:55 |
| j1mc | :) | 23:55 |
| j1mc | mdke: do you find it difficult to document ubuntu if you primarily use kubuntu? | 23:56 |
| j1mc | holy cow that is a lot of edits | 23:57 |
| mdke | j1mc: I don't use kubuntu | 23:57 |
| j1mc | hm, I thought I saw a whole bunch of kubuntu team memberships on your LP page | 23:58 |
| mdke | j1mc: indirect membership I guess | 23:59 |
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