[00:30] Hey all, looking for a gedit user, especially one who does scripting with it. But anyone will do. ;-) [00:34] scripting with it? [00:34] you mean writing plugins or using it for scripting? [00:34] No, I'm looking to make sure a tab no longer exists. Thanks. [00:34] Thanks. I'm updating the gedit wiki page here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gedit It shows a Highlight Syntax tab. I need confirmation it no longer exists. [00:35] You get to it via Edit, Prefs, but I think it's been removed from later versions of gedit. [00:35] It is gone. [00:35] I have: View, Editor, Font & Colors and Plugins. [00:36] TY. If I could ask another question. Do you have an entry in the bottom status bar ... I think you just answered my next one. [00:36] The bottom bar has the type of code. I suppose that is the Editor entry. [00:36] Yes, there is a drop-bar at the botom with they syntax type. [00:37] Do you want fresh screenshots? I can fire them up to my site for you to snarf. [00:37] I've taken the screen shots but haven't uploaded them. I wanted to make sure the Highlight Syntax tab didn't exist. [00:38] The bottom status bar on mine seems a bit different than yours. I'm using 2.26.1 [00:38] Same here. [00:39] I appears the bottom changes according to what file is open (besides the syntax window). [00:39] Maybe not, but I don't see the Plugins window, just syntax, tab width and line info. [00:40] Same here. [00:40] OH! [00:40] OK. [00:40] I was looking at the settings tab in edit, preferences. [00:40] Ah, ok. [00:40] The status bar shows: doc type, tab, line, column and "INS" [00:41] Same here. Do you recall ever using/seeing the Highlight Syntax tab. I think it's been gone since 2.18, which was about 7.10 IIRC. [00:42] I never used it and it took me a long time this afternoon to determine it was no longer around. [00:43] Thanks for your assistance Taim. [00:50] No problem [00:50] nhandler, wanna help me with bzr? [01:05] Rocket2DMn: We're about to eat dinner. Are you going to be online in about 30-45 minutes? [01:06] yeah nhandler [01:06] go eat :) [01:33] lol mail spam on bug fixes mdke ! [02:00] mdke, fyi, I'm not ignoring all the great threads on ubuntu-doc - just been busy with work and the release. [20:47] Hi all - Could someone lend me a hand with a newbie bzr problem, please? [20:55] I just need to figure out how to "reset" my local copy of karmic system docs [20:58] mfitzhugh: sure, just a sec - phone call [20:58] Thanks! [21:16] mfitzhugh: sorry, I'm here now [21:16] mfitzhugh: so do you want to undo changes that you've made? losing them forever? [21:16] Cool, thanks mdke. So I'm trying to make sure I have all the latest karmic docs before diving into a bug [21:17] Yes. I want a clean slate [21:17] have you committed any changes with "bzr commit"? [21:18] I commited one file yesterday during emma-janes bzr demo in Open Week [21:18] ok, so if you've just done one commit, you can run "bzr uncommit" in the tree [21:19] Just issue "bzr uncommit" on its own? Or do I need to specify the file I committed [21:19] on its own will be fine [21:20] (I hope) [21:20] O.k. Did that. Now "bzr merge"? [21:20] do "bzr status" to see if you have any uncommitted changes [21:22] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/161675/ [21:22] hmm, you have a conflict there [21:23] that happens when you merge something which conflicts with your own branch [21:23] to undo your local changes, do "bzr revert" [21:24] Hmmm... mabye that happened when I was screwing around on my own trying to figure things out earlier today. Ok... here's what I got [21:24] R about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml.OTHER => about-ubuntu/C/about-ubuntu.xml [21:24] M debian/changelog [21:25] now see if "bzr status" gives you anything [21:25] Clean! [21:25] jolly good [21:25] So I should be back in sync now? [21:25] now let's just check for good order what revision you have [21:25] do "bzr log -l 4" [21:26] bzr log will dump all the revision history, and the -l 4 bit gives you the last 4 revisions [21:26] Yup. I'm up to revno: 289 [21:27] ok, the latest in the branch on Launchpad is 290, so you can do "bzr pull lp:ubuntu-doc/karmic" [21:28] (the "karmic" bit isn't strictly necessary, because lp:ubuntu-doc defaults to karmic at the moment, but I put it in so that if you happen to get other branches, you see how it works) [21:28] in fact, just "bzr pull" on its own is normally enough, because bzr remembers the pull location [21:28] Ok. Now I'm up to revno: 290. Cool! Thanks for the help! It's been a while since I've used version control. [21:28] no worries [21:29] each revision control system is different :) [21:29] so what are you working on? [21:29] So true. -- I'm trying to tackle https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/129505 [21:29] Launchpad bug 129505 in ubuntu-docs "Docs required on desktop search tools" [Wishlist,New] [21:30] cool [21:30] that bug raises a little twist to the usual procedures [21:30] if you're looking at amending the "user-guide" document, you should be aware that this document isn't present in ubuntu-docs [21:31] it's a document that we get from upstream, and is found in the gnome-user-docs package [21:31] so we have a different bzr branch for that document [21:32] I'm not really sure what I'm doing yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out with help. -- Oh! That's good to know. I was thinking it was a matter of altering and ubuntu-doc to link to a gnome doc. What's the branch for the gnome docs? [21:32] here: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-karmic [21:32] So I need to bzr pull lp:https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-karmic [21:32] Is that right [21:33] not quite [21:33] you do: [21:33] bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-doc/gnome-user-docs/ubuntu-karmic [21:33] if you ever forget, it's written towards the top of the Launchpad page for the branch [21:34] Oh, I see. b/c branch is for creating new copies while pull is to turn a branch into a mirror of another branch [21:34] you can use http addresses with bzr, but if you do, you would remove the "lp:" bit, and the branch you get wouldn't support write access [21:34] yes, that's right [21:35] Cool. You just saved me a ton of confusion. Thanks! Any other pointers or tips on this oneL [21:36] the other question to consider would be whether it's a change that should be submitted directly to Gnome, upstream, or which we should do in our branch [21:36] we don't have to decide that now [21:37] but in any event my initial thought would be that we should do the change in our branch, because tracker isn't officially part of Gnome, as I understand it [21:38] that was wordy ;) [21:38] is there a recommended ubuntu vmware appliance for doc writing? [21:38] But it's part of the Ubuntu distro's Gnome :-) I understand (I think) [21:38] right [21:39] Cool. Alright. Off to work with me. Thanks again, mdke! [21:39] philip_: don't think so - but I might not understand the question [21:39] mfitzhugh: no worries, good luck [21:39] mfitzhugh: feel free to mail the list if you get stuck [21:39] Will do [21:42] or generally a good ubuntu virtual machine... that can later be setup to write docs for SystemDocumentation [21:43] philip_: if you run Ubuntu already, then you don't need a virtual machine, right? [21:43] in Windows, I use virtualbox [21:43] i run mac, and want something for vmware fusion [21:44] ah, I don't know. I only just discovered virtualbox, and love it to bits [21:44] yeah, i'm fairly new too and love it [21:44] you could give it a try if you like [21:45] it says it runs on mac [21:46] okay, here goes! [21:46] :) [21:46] you download a standard Ubuntu iso and then just install using it (no need to burn to a CD) [21:47] sometimes it's nice to already have it all setup by some intelligent geek so we don't have to worry about it :) [21:49] phil uses VM for his writing [21:49] philip_: is that what vmware does? [21:50] mdke: you can download pre-configured vmware images [21:51] I see [21:54] vmwares player is free but the server wasn't (not sure if is now or not), hence you needed someone to make the images [22:27] yeah, sometimes it's nice because it's simple, fast, and typically less to download... also simple to try all sorts of distros and stuff people make [22:34] ideally a nice vmware appliance would exist that has all the desired tools setup [22:41] philip_: that would be cool, definitely [22:43] am setting up virtualbox now. should i be playing with some developmental version of ubuntu or stick with 9.04? [22:43] the next version is pretty much just started, so there isn't much to play with at the moment [22:43] I'd go with 9.04 [22:44] if you want to upgrade, you can save the state and upgrade, then revert to the saved state if it goes wrong :) [22:45] saving states is for the weak! [22:45] heh [22:45] am trying Netbook Remix for kicks, this will be fine? [22:45] sure [22:47] netbook remix comes with an easy way of switching to the regular desktop [22:48] is there any reason for keeping the various alt & f2 methods of running apps rather than just using the menus> [22:49] dsas_: only for programs which aren't in the menu [22:51] mdke: Thought as much, we have both methods in some places. Just so that the user has the choice of which way they want to start the app. [22:51] would be nice if we could have a button to click to start an app. [22:51] oh yeah [22:51] I wonder if that could b done [23:12] mdke: not currently as far as I can tell. [23:13] I think yelp passes a lot of that stuff on to gecko [23:13] dsas_: ok, not to worry. The menu entry is the right way to go then IMO [23:54] wow, fooka has rocked the wiki today [23:54] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecentChanges [23:55] Rocket2DMn: is he one of your soldiers? [23:55] :) [23:56] mdke: do you find it difficult to document ubuntu if you primarily use kubuntu? [23:57] holy cow that is a lot of edits [23:57] j1mc: I don't use kubuntu [23:58] hm, I thought I saw a whole bunch of kubuntu team memberships on your LP page [23:59] j1mc: indirect membership I guess