mwhudson | BasicOSX: that looks fairly embarrassing | 00:06 |
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BasicOSX | ? | 00:07 |
BasicOSX | The error or my reporting of it? | 00:07 |
mwhudson | BasicOSX: the error | 00:07 |
mwhudson | i don't know if any bugs people are around now though | 00:07 |
BasicOSX | when I click on it, wants me to auth, so I don't know what the error code says :-) | 00:07 |
mwhudson | BasicOSX: i'd recommend filing a bug on malone | 00:07 |
mwhudson | BasicOSX: right | 00:07 |
matsubara | mwhudson: BasicOSX filed already. I'm triaging it and will ask one of the Bugs guys to take a look tomorrwo | 00:08 |
mwhudson | matsubara: oh ok | 00:08 |
BasicOSX | I filed bug report for it in LP itself. | 00:08 |
kiko | BasicOSX, I'm looking | 00:09 |
BasicOSX | bug 370117 | 00:09 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 370117 in launchpad "Attempting to add "Affects" project to bug report results in OOPS-1216D2336" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370117 | 00:09 |
kiko | BasicOSX, oh, very interesting | 00:09 |
kiko | BasicOSX, what's the product you're using? | 00:09 |
kiko | it is assuming that the remote product is set to use sourceforge and has an ampersand in it | 00:10 |
kiko | but the data seems wrong | 00:10 |
BasicOSX | http://sourceforge.net/projects/netrek/ is the product? Never heard or seen the word product | 00:10 |
kiko | BasicOSX, so it's launchpad.net/netrek? | 00:11 |
BasicOSX | lp/mactrek | 00:11 |
kiko | BasicOSX, is it meant to use SF or launchpad? | 00:12 |
kiko | for bug filing I mean. | 00:12 |
BasicOSX | Attempting to do MultiProjectBugs | 00:12 |
kiko | BasicOSX, you can't do that for a single upstream | 00:13 |
BasicOSX | mactrek is branch of SF project | 00:13 |
BasicOSX | bug in mactrek may or may not be in SF project code base | 00:13 |
kiko | BasicOSX, but do you want bugs on it to be reported there? | 00:13 |
kiko | basically I think you want to do something we don't support today | 00:14 |
kiko | I think you want to have one bug with a task against netrek in sourceforge and another against mactrek | 00:14 |
BasicOSX | https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/MultiProjectBugs I wanna do that | 00:14 |
kiko | BasicOSX, show me the bug you filed? | 00:14 |
BasicOSX | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mactrek/+bug/370106 | 00:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 370106 in mactrek "Server receives multiple connections" [Undecided,New] | 00:15 |
BasicOSX | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2139750&group_id=165507&atid=835696 | 00:16 |
kiko | BasicOSX, okay, and you want to link that to the bug in sourceforge? | 00:16 |
BasicOSX | I would like to link 370106 to SF 2139750 | 00:16 |
kiko | you can't do that. | 00:17 |
kiko | I realize why you want to do it | 00:17 |
kiko | but you can't | 00:17 |
kiko | BasicOSX, either a project uses sourceforge or it uses launchpad | 00:17 |
kiko | it can't use both at once | 00:17 |
kiko | multiproject bugs is for different projects | 00:17 |
kiko | i.e. | 00:17 |
BasicOSX | hmm, how is that any different then https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/MultiProjectBugs and the "Bugs in external trackers" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/24220 | 00:17 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed] | 00:17 |
kiko | a bug which affects mactrek and, say, the compiler at the same time | 00:17 |
kiko | BasicOSX, it has to be multiple projects. it can't be the same upstream twice | 00:18 |
kiko | you can ask me why and I could explain but basically it is a limitation of the system | 00:18 |
kiko | which I now think we should fix! | 00:18 |
BasicOSX | Mozilla Thunderbird is different project then mozilla-thunderbird (Debian) ? | 00:19 |
kiko | yes. | 00:19 |
kiko | Mozilla Thunderbird is the upstream mozilla.org project | 00:19 |
BasicOSX | I have mactrek (Display name OSXTreak) as 1 project and sourceforge-mactrek as another project, how is that different? :-) | 00:19 |
kiko | mozilla-thunderbird (Debian) is the Debian package of it. | 00:19 |
kiko | you have a sourceforge-mactrek?! | 00:20 |
BasicOSX | yes | 00:20 |
kiko | I see | 00:20 |
kiko | okay I am not going to interfere :) | 00:20 |
BasicOSX | sourceforge-mactrek's bug tracker is linked SF bug tracker | 00:20 |
kiko | let me just fix the data up | 00:20 |
kiko | yeah | 00:20 |
kiko | I realize | 00:20 |
BasicOSX | reading the MultiProjectBugs stuff I got that regardless of where the bug tracker lives, the project must be reg'd with launchpad | 00:21 |
kiko | yeah, it's right | 00:22 |
kiko | okay | 00:22 |
kiko | so can you try doing the same thing you did before? | 00:22 |
kiko | I think I fixed the data | 00:22 |
BasicOSX | taking clue from mozilla project, I did sourceforge-mactrek, linked to SF bug tracker, maybe I misunderstand, like I previously stated, the multi-project/cross-project bug info is not very easy to understand and there is not documentation on how to set it up. | 00:22 |
kiko | yeah, it's complicated and bad | 00:23 |
kiko | but can you retry your operation? | 00:24 |
BasicOSX | we are attempting to migrate to LP, but many think data and knowledge will be lost on a migration, so I'm attempting to pacify them | 00:24 |
kiko | BasicOSX, understood | 00:24 |
kiko | we can actually import bugs from SF | 00:25 |
BasicOSX | mactrek is silly, think only 1 bug left open :-( | 00:25 |
kiko | gotcha | 00:25 |
kiko | okay then | 00:25 |
BasicOSX | kiko: did I set something up wrong that you had to "fix the data"? | 00:27 |
kiko | yeah, the remote project data | 00:27 |
kiko | but it is just completely crazy to expect you to know how to fill that out for sourceforge | 00:27 |
BasicOSX | ahh the Remote project | 00:28 |
BasicOSX | It's not just the ID it's the whole url? | 00:28 |
kiko | I have no actual idea | 00:28 |
kiko | the person who wrote that code is in trouble | 00:28 |
BasicOSX | ok, looking at my sourceforge-mactrek, only thing I see changed is the "Remote Project" | 00:29 |
BasicOSX | Anyways thank you and the netrek community thanks you | 00:29 |
kiko | BasicOSX, you guys rock, I am so happy to have you with us | 00:30 |
cody-somerville | I love netrek! | 00:33 |
kirkland | does anyone know if this is per year? | 01:01 |
kirkland | http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=230 | 01:01 |
mwhudson | kirkland: yes | 01:05 |
mwhudson | at least i think so | 01:05 |
kirkland | mwhudson: it's ambiguous :-) | 01:05 |
mwhudson | kirkland: can you pester someone to get that clarified? | 01:05 |
mwhudson | :) | 01:05 |
kirkland | mwhudson: heh | 01:05 |
kirkland | okay | 01:05 |
spm | kirkland: mwhudson: yes. :-) https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208 - or. if not, it's wrong in multiple places :-D | 01:06 |
rowinggolfer | I'm livid. | 01:08 |
rowinggolfer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/370134 | 01:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 370134 in launchpad "main contributer to my project is not me" [Undecided,New] | 01:08 |
rowinggolfer | good night | 01:09 |
wgrant | spm: A and a few others have been getting 502s from edge this morning. | 01:41 |
wgrant | Occasionally. | 01:41 |
spm | wgrant: oopsid? | 01:41 |
wgrant | spm: Actually, not just edge it seems. | 01:41 |
wgrant | spm: 502s don't OOPS. | 01:41 |
spm | oh proxy error. right. | 01:42 |
wgrant | Are all of the appservers happy? | 01:43 |
spm | wgrant: yes and were. I have my firming suspicions... | 01:59 |
wgrant | spm: What's it look like? | 01:59 |
* BUGabundo reads topic | 02:09 | |
BUGabundo | nothing there | 02:09 |
BUGabundo | LP down? | 02:09 |
BUGabundo | "Please try again Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. " | 02:10 |
lifeless | spm: ^ | 02:10 |
BUGabundo | I talked to wgrant a bit ago | 02:11 |
BUGabundo | because hggdh reported some OOPs on Production server/version | 02:11 |
BUGabundo | so known bug? | 02:22 |
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spiv | BUGabundo: without more details it's impossible to sy | 02:25 |
spiv | "say", rather | 02:25 |
BUGabundo | ok | 02:26 |
BUGabundo | I'll try to get a few oops | 02:26 |
spiv | BUGabundo: even saying what page / what you were doing would be a start :) | 02:28 |
spiv | Launchpad is a large app with many parts. | 02:28 |
BUGabundo | sure | 02:28 |
BUGabundo | https://launchpad.net/bugs/366678 | 02:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 366678 in ubuntu "9.04 fails to boot on HP DV2-1030US laptop" [Undecided,New] | 02:28 |
BUGabundo | failed to redirect me to edge, and showed me that error | 02:28 |
spiv | BUGabundo: FWIW, it redirected me, and I don't get an error. | 02:29 |
BUGabundo | spiv: now it does for me too | 02:30 |
Ursinha | works for me as well | 02:31 |
BUGabundo | but I never got anything like that before | 02:31 |
BUGabundo | hi hggdh | 02:34 |
BUGabundo | can you describe what happened to you ? | 02:34 |
hggdh | many times these last days I try to open a LP page and get a "sorry there was a problem with LP (etc) please wait a few minutes and try again (etc)". Last one was while I was trying to apport a kernel oops | 02:36 |
mwhudson | hggdh: the OSAs are looking at this issue now | 02:36 |
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spm | *** Question for those having observed these issues: is it ONLY on edge? or originally on edge? I'm guessing no.. but. ??? | 02:39 |
BUGabundo | spm: hggdh doesn't use edge | 02:39 |
georgethebandit | it wont work | 02:39 |
hggdh | spm, I *do* not use edge | 02:39 |
hggdh | sigh. I do *not* | 02:39 |
BUGabundo | and for me it happened just before I got redirect to edje | 02:39 |
spm | cool. that does help. ta. | 02:40 |
Ursinha | edje is an enlightenment lib :P | 02:40 |
BUGabundo | is what Ursinha? | 02:40 |
hggdh | edje (as opposed to edge) | 02:40 |
Ursinha | BUGabundo, what hggdh said | 02:40 |
georgethebandit | i second that | 02:41 |
* BUGabundo is lost | 02:41 | |
hggdh | <BUGabundo> and for me it happened just before I got redirect to ***edje*** | 02:41 |
hggdh | :-) | 02:41 |
* BUGabundo is even loster now | 02:43 | |
Ursinha | thanks hggdh :) | 02:43 |
Ursinha | omg | 02:43 |
Ursinha | what's wrong with you man | 02:43 |
Ursinha | :) | 02:43 |
BUGabundo | sleep deprived? | 02:43 |
Ursinha | edJe != edGe | 02:43 |
BUGabundo | 3am here | 02:43 |
BUGabundo | Ursinha: is was a clear typo | 02:43 |
Ursinha | sure, and that was a clear joke | 02:44 |
georgethebandit | i was lost | 02:44 |
Ursinha | hggdh just followed me :) | 02:44 |
Ursinha | georgethebandit, are you okay now? :) | 02:44 |
georgethebandit | yes | 02:45 |
georgethebandit | i think i get it | 02:45 |
Ursinha | :) | 02:45 |
BUGabundo | I almost never get sarcasm or some jokes.... | 02:45 |
hggdh | all hail pinot noir! | 02:45 |
BUGabundo | and I'm even worse trying to do sarcams | 02:45 |
hggdh | sorry BUGabundo | 02:45 |
BUGabundo | so I just avoid it | 02:45 |
Ursinha | BUGabundo, I made a note to add a </joke> tag when talking to you this late :P | 02:46 |
BUGabundo | eheehh | 02:46 |
BUGabundo | okay. that will help | 02:46 |
* BUGabundo blond, sleepy guy smiles | 02:46 | |
zu22 | hi can somneone help me with LP? | 03:13 |
zu22 | i want to join this project but i see no button or link for doing so: https://launchpad.net/mactrek | 03:13 |
zu22 | i am already logged in with LP account | 03:14 |
lifeless | there may be a /team/ you can join | 03:14 |
zu22 | oh | 03:14 |
zu22 | how do i join that? | 03:14 |
lifeless | well, if there is one, then on the team's home page there is a 'join this team' link | 03:14 |
lifeless | that said, you don't need to be in a team to contribute to a project | 03:14 |
lifeless | what is it you want to do with mactrek ? | 03:14 |
zu22 | i want to find bugs | 03:14 |
zu22 | and report them | 03:15 |
lifeless | so, download the code, and report bugs :) | 03:15 |
zu22 | ok :) | 03:15 |
zu22 | i never used objective C before so this may be weird | 03:15 |
zu22 | i am used to regular ANSI C :) | 03:15 |
lifeless | https://code.launchpad.net/mactrek and https://bugs.launchpad.net/mactrek | 03:15 |
zu22 | lifeless: thanks | 03:15 |
zu22 | i need learn svn syntax | 03:15 |
zu22 | so i can get code with svn | 03:16 |
zu22 | i normally use darcs | 03:16 |
lifeless | the code is in bzr | 03:16 |
lifeless | not svn ;) | 03:17 |
lifeless | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~tanner/mactrek/trunk | 03:17 |
hggdh | just got the error message again "Please try again" | 03:17 |
poolie | thumper/jml: interesting question in http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-privacy-features-for-commercial-subscribers | 03:29 |
* thumper looks | 03:29 | |
thumper | hmm | 03:30 |
mwhudson | i think the answer should be "yes, but carefully" | 03:31 |
jml | right. | 03:31 |
jml | tbh, I don't understand the linked bug | 03:32 |
mwhudson | i think it's basically a soyuz bug | 03:32 |
mwhudson | but yeah, "embargoed" is pretty ambiguous | 03:33 |
poolie | i posted to that effect | 03:34 |
poolie | it's awaiting modification | 03:34 |
poolie | iirc you can ask for the feature to be enabled and then it'll be turned on? | 03:34 |
thumper | not necessarily | 03:35 |
jml | poolie: what do you think is particularly interesting about the question? | 03:38 |
poolie | it's not _super_ interesting, but 1- it went unanswered for a while; 2- he is (or was) a bit of a fudster but it's possible to give a reasonable answer; 3- it's something mark talked about last week | 03:39 |
poolie | oh woo! | 03:41 |
poolie | i love the new +filebug form with options to set state | 03:41 |
poolie | anyhow i filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/370170 as a handle | 03:41 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 370170 in launchpad-code "need an easy way to request private branch support" [Undecided,New] | 03:41 |
wgrant | That bug looks to me like it's just requesting a normal Zope security policy... | 04:37 |
tansell | how big can your ppa achieve be? | 05:44 |
spm | tansell: within reason. :-) We'll increase as needs be, if you ask for more via Answers. | 05:49 |
tansell | spm, is there a default limit? I seem to remeber seeing something about 1g but can't find it now | 05:50 |
spm | yes 1Gb is the default | 05:50 |
* tansell goes to request more | 05:50 | |
spm | heh | 05:51 |
spm | tansell: give me the answer link in < 5 mins and I'll increase here'n'now :-) | 05:51 |
tansell | which project should the question be under? Launchpad or ubuntu? | 05:52 |
spm | launchpad | 05:52 |
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spm | turutosiya: please don't do that | 05:53 |
turutosiya | sorry | 05:53 |
turutosiya | misoperated | 05:53 |
tansell | spm, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/69460 | 05:56 |
spm | tansell: have increased to 2. see how you go with that; we can always increase more. | 05:57 |
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tansell | spm, okay - but I have yet to get to building python-ogre itself :( | 05:59 |
anyr | Please, hel me. I just install jaunty and can't change screen resolution from 720x350 to any other (video radeon x600). | 07:54 |
al-maisan | anyr: I am afraid you are in the wrong room here, try #ubuntu | 07:59 |
anyr | sorry | 07:59 |
al-maisan | no problem :) | 07:59 |
SiDi | Hello people | 10:01 |
muteW | Hi, just a quick question. | 10:01 |
SiDi | When there's a LP question talking about something illegal (ie in this case "hi i downloaded program X and i wanna run it"), should we only reject the question or should it be completely deleted ? | 10:02 |
muteW | I am running Ubuntu 9.04 on an old Acer laptop and have been having these frequent lockups where the entire system freezes. | 10:02 |
muteW | The only way out is to either reboot or use the Magic SysRq key to do a clean reboot.. | 10:02 |
bigkevmcd | muteW: try #ubuntu | 10:02 |
Spads | muteW: apropos of this channel, run ubuntu-bug from a terminal | 10:03 |
rowinggolfer | mrevell :) thanks! | 10:03 |
muteW | ok | 10:03 |
Vantrax | any launchpad administrators here? | 10:06 |
matt2 | Launchpad been dodge for a week? | 10:14 |
matt2 | *day | 10:15 |
Vantrax | a little bit | 10:16 |
* matt2 is excited because he created a branch of some code | 10:17 | |
matt2 | could get my scout badge for contributing to free software | 10:17 |
SiDi | matt2: :) | 10:19 |
wgrant | What's dodgy about it? | 10:20 |
matt2 | just unreliable, getting "launchpad is busy" errors | 10:20 |
bigjools | wgrant: the bug you just filed, I have a feeling it's a dupe but I can't for the life of me find one | 10:55 |
bigjools | aha | 10:56 |
wgrant | bigjools: I don't think that's a dupe. | 11:19 |
wgrant | But I suppose it'll be fixed at the same time. | 11:19 |
bigjools | wgrant: read the original description, it's talking about changing the text depending on whether you have upload privs or not | 11:20 |
wgrant | bigjools: True. | 11:20 |
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gnomefreak | when is the plan to add karmic to PPA? | 11:49 |
wgrant | gnomefreak: Done. | 11:49 |
wgrant | Days ago. | 11:50 |
gnomefreak | wgrant: oh ok i didnt see it in sources.list drop down | 11:50 |
wgrant | gnomefreak: Because you have no Karmic packages in your PPA. | 11:50 |
wgrant | See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas for the list of supported DAS. | 11:50 |
gnomefreak | ah ok thanks, i was waiting for it in sources list. Ill be back someone that shouldnt be here is :( | 11:51 |
wgrant | Pardon? | 11:51 |
mirak | hi | 11:53 |
mirak | when you approve somebody to a team, what this person can do on the ppa ? | 11:54 |
mirak | does someone needs to be moderator to upload packages ? | 11:54 |
bigjools | mirak: they will gain upload privileges to the team's PPA | 11:54 |
mirak | bigjools: can they also delete packages ? | 11:55 |
gnomefreak | i'm hearing things | 11:55 |
bigjools | yes | 11:55 |
mirak | bigjools: so it's a very bad idea to make a team public | 11:55 |
mirak | I guess | 11:55 |
mirak | or anyone should upload to it's own ppa then copy the packages to the team ppa ? | 11:56 |
bigjools | mirak: well, you need to decide who needs upload privs and control the team accordingly | 11:56 |
mirak | ok I missed this configuration panel then | 11:56 |
bigjools | it depends on who is a member of the team that owns the PPA | 11:56 |
wgrant | I've been wondering if the privilege granularity of teams is insufficient. Creating lots of teams doesn't seem like a great solution, and there are things like separating membership approvals and mailing list moderation that are impossible in the current model. | 11:58 |
mirak | bigjools: I can't find what you are talking about | 11:59 |
bigjools | indeed, we need the concept of roles | 11:59 |
bigjools | mirak: it's simple, if you're a member of the team that owns the PPA, then you can upload/delete | 11:59 |
bigjools | if you're not, you can't | 11:59 |
mirak | bigjools: ok, I didn't understood what you meant | 12:00 |
wgrant | bigjools: Until a couple of years ago there was only one type of administrative role, so I guess it's a new problem. | 12:00 |
bigjools | wgrant: yes, the use of teams has expanded a lot | 12:00 |
bigjools | Curtis might have something up his sleeve | 12:01 |
mirak | the problem here is that you can't trial someone | 12:01 |
mirak | you can accept just one person that will wreck your ppa | 12:01 |
mirak | without him having to prove that he can upload packages | 12:01 |
mirak | or even want to | 12:01 |
bigjools | mirak: in that case, let them use their own PPA and you can copy his packages into yours | 12:01 |
mirak | ok, I should check then if they are doing packages | 12:02 |
mirak | at least on their ppa | 12:02 |
wgrant | The required proliferation of teams is a bit crazy and looks bad. | 12:02 |
bigjools | I agree | 12:03 |
wgrant | Although multiple PPAs is a good start at fixing that :) | 12:03 |
mirak | ok, the guy have no ppa at all yet. For that first one joining the team, I will let him join as it. but fo the other ones I will ask them to upload the packages on their own ppa first. | 12:04 |
bigjools | it took a while :) | 12:04 |
mirak | is there a way to have in a ppa different categories, like main universe multiverse ? | 12:05 |
bigjools | mirak: no, PPAs don't have components | 12:05 |
wgrant | bigjools: But... wasn't that feature removed just before the initial PPA deployment? I saw a bug in the last few weeks beforehand about fixing the implementation to work with only one PPA per user. | 12:05 |
bigjools | but you can have multiple PPAs for the same team/person | 12:05 |
mirak | so we can't manage restricted packages | 12:05 |
wgrant | Multiple PPAs per Person is a much better solution that components. | 12:05 |
bigjools | yep | 12:06 |
mirak | that's what I did | 12:06 |
mirak | have you heard about flamewars on ppa teams already ? | 12:07 |
bigjools | no, really? | 12:07 |
mirak | like repository killing | 12:07 |
mirak | and stuff ? | 12:07 |
mirak | bigjools: I haven't !! it's a question ^^ | 12:08 |
bigjools | oh :) | 12:08 |
wgrant | Most people only add trusted people to their PPA teams, I suspect. | 12:08 |
wgrant | And most people aren't evil. | 12:08 |
bigjools | mirak: no, I've not heard of that happening | 12:08 |
mirak | anyway going to the process of creating a gpg key and stuff is anoying enough to not wanting to be blacklisted ^^ | 12:09 |
mirak | through/to | 12:09 |
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eraser | Hello! Is there something going on with server today? | 12:31 |
eraser | It's impossible to translate anything. Continious errer message from site bugs ... Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. | 12:31 |
bigjools | eraser: we're aware of the problem, someone is looking into it, thanks. | 12:42 |
phoozle | Is anyone having problems on Launchpad Answers? | 12:47 |
intellectronica | phoozle: what kind of problem are you having? | 12:47 |
phoozle | Im supplying an answer and I get this error: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. | 12:48 |
phoozle | should I just give it some time? | 12:48 |
bigjools | phoozle: : there's a general timeout problem, someone is looking into it | 12:48 |
phoozle | ok cheers | 12:48 |
phoozle | the person im supporting just posted 3 duplicated questions so that could be related also. | 12:49 |
wgrant | Aha, good to see somebody is looking into it - I hit that a bit 12 hours ago. | 12:49 |
cemc | hi. problems with launchpad? i noticed yesterday and today it gives me a lot of 'please try again' | 13:05 |
jpds | cemc: They are working on it. | 13:06 |
cemc | cool, thanks | 13:06 |
Goundy | lp is written in php right ? | 13:06 |
bigjools | Python | 13:07 |
Goundy | ah | 13:07 |
Goundy | bigjools full python ? | 13:07 |
bigjools | I don't understand your question, what do you mean by full? | 13:07 |
Goundy | bigjools I mean the whole plateforme is python based there's no other techno ? | 13:07 |
bigjools | Oh I see, yes pretty much, apart from the javascript and there's a few C extensions for performance critical parts | 13:08 |
Goundy | Nice | 13:08 |
jarnos | There are problems in connecting to the Launchpad server. I frequently get the "Please try again" page. | 13:12 |
jpds | jarnos: Known problem, they're working on it. | 13:13 |
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dfinf2 | Hey, I can't seem to connect to the Launchpad server...Trying to download Furius ISO Mount | 13:20 |
binarymutant | will it be posted here when the known problems are fixed? | 13:21 |
bigjools | yes | 13:21 |
binarymutant | cool ty | 13:22 |
TomHal | launchpad is slowing downnnnnnnnnnnnnn | 13:24 |
pmatulis | ANNOUNCEMENT: Launchpad.net is experiencing severe trouble. STOP CONNECTING | 13:25 |
theoldfellow | I can't report a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ is saying tell you herer. | 13:27 |
jpds | theoldfellow: See /topic. | 13:27 |
elmo | pmatulis: please don't say that | 13:28 |
theoldfellow | propably all that Jaunty update bugs.. :) | 13:28 |
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theoldfellow | anyone know how to make Preferred Applications work - it keeps trying to use Evolution ? | 13:29 |
rowinggolfer | theoldfellow: it? | 13:30 |
theoldfellow | Jaunty - Open Office for instance. | 13:30 |
jpds | theoldfellow: Try #ubuntu for general support questions. | 13:30 |
theoldfellow | OK, thanks. | 13:30 |
TomHal | pmatulis: I have a product to get out today. Any idea when LP will be responding quicker? | 13:35 |
bigjools | anyone who's experiencing problems, is it on the edge servers too? | 13:36 |
bigjools | and does anyone have any OOPS IDs please | 13:37 |
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VK7HSE | http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/927280/Screenshot-Please%20try%20again%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png | 13:39 |
VK7HSE | can't login to try sorry :( | 13:39 |
bigjools | ugh nasty, thanks | 13:39 |
jpds | bigjools: I don't get a problem accessing my code page on edge. | 13:40 |
pmatulis | TomHal: no, sorry | 13:41 |
satansaunt | so, question about football manager 2009 | 13:41 |
satansaunt | can i run it in xubuntu 9.04? or do i still have to keep booting into windows... | 13:42 |
bigjools | jpds: we see the same, thanks for confirming | 13:42 |
satansaunt | which, by the way, i really don't like having to do | 13:42 |
TomHal | pmatulis: is it certain id's links, ?????? | 13:42 |
jpds | satansaunt: Try asking in #xubuntu, this channel is for Launchpad support. | 13:42 |
jpds | bigjools: No problem. | 13:43 |
satansaunt | there's no one there to answer my question, that's why i asked here | 13:43 |
binarymutant | satansaunt, ask in #ubuntu then :P | 13:43 |
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gmerrick | Morning all. I'm having an issue with Volume Applet 2.26.0 on Jaunty and would like to know where I should file a bug report on it | 13:46 |
bigjools | gmerrick: run "ubuntu-bug" | 13:48 |
jpds | gmerrick: Probably https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets - #ubuntu-bugs will be able to help you too. | 13:49 |
bigjools | jpds: the distro guys would rather people used ubuntu-bug | 13:49 |
jpds | bigjools: True, just pointing out the package. | 13:50 |
gmerrick | heh. Unless you know the actual package ubuntu-bug doesn't help much. Looks like it is a part of gnome-applets, according to synaptic. | 13:50 |
mnemo | how long until it's fixed? | 13:51 |
bigjools | mnemo: we don't know yet | 13:51 |
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bigjools | it should be fixed now | 14:21 |
andol | bigjools: Well, LP works fine for me now anyway :) Thanks! | 14:22 |
bigjools | good to hear | 14:22 |
gmerrick | Thanks for the help. Got that bug posted now the sites' working | 14:26 |
mnemo | what is the correct package for text error on help.launchpad.net website? | 14:28 |
mnemo | i.e. which package for this bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/370342 | 14:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 370342 in malone "help.launchpad.net step by step guide is incorrect" [Undecided,New] | 14:28 |
mirak | is it possible to create binary deps with a different version but from the same source. depending of the sources it was built against ? | 14:28 |
wgrant | mnemo: You can fix it yourself, or reassign the bug to the launchpad-documentation project. | 14:29 |
wgrant | mirak: How are you specifying the binary dependencies? | 14:29 |
wgrant | mirak: You assigned the bug to the team, rather than changing its target. | 14:32 |
wgrant | Er, mnemo ^^ | 14:32 |
mnemo | wgrant: hmm, should I not assign it to the team? | 14:33 |
wgrant | mnemo: No, you should instead change the project. | 14:33 |
wgrant | In the top field. | 14:33 |
wgrant | Assigning people is generally not a good idea. | 14:34 |
mnemo | ah, you mean the package? | 14:34 |
wgrant | (unless it's you) | 14:34 |
wgrant | mnemo: It's a project, not a package. | 14:34 |
wgrant | Although packages can have bugs targetted to them too, this is not one of those. | 14:34 |
mnemo | yea ok I think its corrected now? | 14:35 |
wgrant | mnemo: Yep, that looks good. | 14:35 |
mnemo | wgrant: hey, what about this bug btw? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/369221 i wonder if this part of launchpad is open source? if so, is it possible for me to fix that bug myself and attach a debdiff or so? | 14:37 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 369221 in malone "boost upstream attention to LP bug activity by making access easier" [Undecided,New] | 14:37 |
wgrant | mnemo: That part of Launchpad will be open source in nearly three months. | 14:38 |
mnemo | wgrant: ok, what do you think about the chances of someone on the LP team taking on this bug? | 14:39 |
mnemo | I feel its a pretty nice improvment | 14:39 |
wgrant | mnemo: I don't know. I'm just a user. | 14:39 |
mnemo | oh I see :) | 14:39 |
mnemo | in case anyone from canonical's launchpad team is here, please have a look at this tiny feature request and see what you think! thanks :) --https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/369221 | 14:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 369221 in malone "boost upstream attention to LP bug activity by making access easier" [Undecided,New] | 14:40 |
mnemo | there | 14:40 |
mnemo | i hope they will implement this change | 14:40 |
wgrant | If not, you can try in a few months. | 14:40 |
mirak | wgrant: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.8), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), vdr-abi-1.7.6 | 14:43 |
wgrant | mirak: You specify those manually in debian/control? | 14:44 |
mirak | wgrant: there is a subst variable wich value came from vdr-dev package | 14:44 |
wgrant | What is the line in debian/control? | 14:45 |
wgrant | mirak: ^^ | 14:45 |
mirak | wgrant: what I don't find nice is that if I upgrade vdr abi, then I am forced to also upgrade the changelog of the plugin, and only this, just to have a different binary name. | 14:46 |
wgrant | mirak: Which changelog of which plugin? | 14:46 |
wgrant | And why? | 14:46 |
mirak | wgrant: of all plugins | 14:53 |
mirak | wgrant: because how can I rebuild them otherwise ? and how can the previous vdr version have it's plugins ? | 14:54 |
wgrant | mirak: I must be missing some context here. What plugins are depending on what? | 14:54 |
mirak | wgrant: vdr have a lot of plugins | 14:54 |
wgrant | mirak: And those plugins depend on vdr-abi-X.Y.Z? | 14:55 |
mirak | wgrant: yes | 14:55 |
wgrant | mirak: You need the binary packages to have a different version number, so you need to upload a new source version, so you need to add a new changelog entry. | 14:55 |
wgrant | There's no way around it. | 14:56 |
mirak | wgrant: that's what I complain about | 14:57 |
wgrant | mirak: So, the answer to your initial question is 'No' | 14:57 |
mirak | wgrant: I see no reason to change the source version when the source is exactly the same | 14:57 |
mirak | wgrant: ok | 14:58 |
mirak | lol | 14:58 |
wgrant | mirak: The binary version comes from the source version. It might at some point be possible to do binary-only rebuilds which append something to the version, but that's a bit ugly and not possible at this time. | 14:58 |
mirak | wgrant: I mean here there should be a mecanism that just name the binary package version according to some version of the source package it depends | 14:58 |
mirak | wgrant: ok, at least people though about that | 14:59 |
mirak | wgrant: I don't feel it's ugly, it's just logical. since a source can produce a different binary output there is no reason that the binary package keeps the same version name if they can vary | 15:00 |
mirak | the lpia architecture on ubuntu is 32 bits ? | 16:01 |
Vantrax | pretty sure | 16:10 |
mirak | where are the repository for lpia ?? | 16:25 |
tsimpson | mirak: http://ports.ubuntu.com | 16:35 |
mirak | tsimpson: ha right | 16:37 |
aleksander_m | hi all... I get a connection refused (Errno 111) when using dput to upload a new package to my PPA | 17:21 |
aleksander_m | Any hint? | 17:21 |
bigjools | aleksander_m: can you show me your dput.cf please? | 17:21 |
Spads | aleksander_m: The upload service is undergoing brief maintenance at the moment | 17:22 |
aleksander_m | yesterday I could do it... | 17:22 |
aleksander_m | let me pastebin it | 17:22 |
Spads | PPA uploads will be unavailable for a brief time. | 17:22 |
bigjools | aleksander_m: ok don't worry | 17:22 |
aleksander_m | http://pastebin.com/mabab4ca | 17:23 |
aleksander_m | ah ok | 17:23 |
Spads | aleksander_m: I'll let you know when it's ready for you. Apologies for the inconvenience. | 17:23 |
aleksander_m | no problem | 17:23 |
aleksander_m | my battery will die quite soon, so I'll leave it for this evening :-) | 17:24 |
aleksander_m | thanks and cheers | 17:24 |
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Spads | PPA uploads will now function again as expected. | 17:39 |
bjfs | Since I'm new to PPAs then I ask if there's some app that allows user to select a given PPA to his or hers repo on sources.list ? | 17:58 |
c_korn | hello, my upload was rejected due to this reason: http://pastebin.com/d7eefc768 | 18:22 |
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al-maisan | c_korn: could you please try again? | 18:37 |
al-maisan | This may be fall-out from the difficulties we had today.. | 18:37 |
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c_korn | al-maisan: same error again | 18:46 |
al-maisan | hmm.. | 18:46 |
c_korn | http://pastebin.com/d4e7074cd | 18:46 |
c_korn | that was a no orig upload. https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa | 18:49 |
al-maisan | what is a "no orig" upload? | 18:49 |
c_korn | the orig tarball was already uploaded. I only did a debuild -S -sd and uploaded the diff.gz, dsc and source_changes file. but no tarball | 18:51 |
al-maisan | c_korn: how was the orig tarball uploaded beforehand? | 18:52 |
c_korn | debuild -S -sa includes the tarball in source_changes. so it was uploaded at first time | 18:53 |
LarstiQ | did the upload with the orig succeed? | 18:54 |
flacoste | no | 18:54 |
flacoste | that's probably the issue | 18:54 |
flacoste | the PPA box was offline for a short while to put new disks in | 18:55 |
c_korn | the upload with orig was successful before | 18:55 |
flacoste | c_korn: can you create a complete uploade and try again? | 18:55 |
c_korn | ok | 18:55 |
al-maisan | good idea. | 18:55 |
c_korn | also rejected: http://pastebin.com/d374f7c18 | 19:01 |
al-maisan | c_korn: could you please also paste the changes file for the failed upload? | 19:01 |
c_korn | mail: http://pastebin.com/d3f95d678 changes: http://pastebin.com/d7c1e84cd | 19:03 |
al-maisan | thanks. | 19:03 |
al-maisan | c_korn: we are analyzing the problem and have a first "clue".. | 19:10 |
c_korn | ok, thanks. I have to leave now | 19:12 |
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Demophobie | Hey! Is .../.../languages/de/.../test.po enough to let the system find what language i have in the trunk? | 19:32 |
* maxb wonders if there's a timetable for how the PPA buildd pool grows and shrinks | 19:40 | |
mirak | Rejected: | 19:50 |
mirak | Unhandled exception processing upload: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/srv/launchpad.net/ppa-queue/incoming/upload-20090501-182251-000012/~mirak-mirak/ubuntu/tmpUzp-jE' | 19:50 |
elmo | mirak: see /topic | 19:51 |
mirak | elmo: thanks | 19:52 |
elmo | ok, PPA upload problems are fixed | 20:03 |
maxb | Any news on when there might be some more builders available? | 20:03 |
elmo | mirak, c_korn: ^-- | 20:03 |
elmo | maxb: early next week | 20:03 |
maxb | My PPA is broken because the arch-any packages have built but the arch-all ones haven't | 20:04 |
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maxb | I suppose I should register a /staging secondary PPA, build new uploads in that, and then write something using launchpadlib to sync them over when fully built | 20:05 |
flacoste | maxb: why can''t you simply ask for a rebuild? | 20:06 |
maxb | flacoste: The problem is version skew between arch-all and arch-any binary packages, because the i386 builders are running far behind | 20:09 |
flacoste | maxb: then i guess your staging idea isn't a bad one | 20:09 |
maxb | Am I just missing it, or is there no launchpadlib way to delete packages? | 20:10 |
flacoste | maxb: i don't find it | 20:14 |
flacoste | maxb: you should file a bug on soyuz to add it | 20:15 |
Goundy | guys... I just noticed something weird.... well I might be wrong but... | 20:34 |
Goundy | When I visit the description page of lp I see: Publish your work. Collaborate with free software communities. | 20:34 |
Goundy | But right now, while browsing the registred projects I noticed that some are PROPRIETARY projects | 20:35 |
Goundy | What the hell is that ? | 20:35 |
Demophobie | someone here who understands something about translation in lauchpad? | 20:35 |
Goundy | actually I know that Free doens't mean open source but as stated before lp is presented as a plateforme for open source software | 20:36 |
Goundy | or Am I wrong ? | 20:36 |
maxb | Goundy: Free projects can use Launchpad for free. Proprietary projects who want to use Launchpad can pay to do so. | 20:39 |
Goundy | maxb Ah I get it now... This should be stated in the description page don't you think so? | 20:39 |
maxb | Well, it does describe the primary purpose of Launchpad :-) | 20:40 |
Goundy | Heh not wrong :) | 20:40 |
c_korn | elmo: sure that the issue is fixed? I uploaded about 30min ago but it was neither rejected not accepted | 20:42 |
Goundy | maxb anyway thanks for your hint :) | 20:42 |
elmo | c_korn: gack, sorry. epic crontab replacement failure | 20:42 |
elmo | c_korn: fixed, and processing now | 20:43 |
c_korn | elmo: thanks, it got accepted now | 20:45 |
flacoste | Goundy: yeah, we have meant to update that front page with the correct message, it's very well hidden that you can host your proprietary project on LP | 20:46 |
Goundy | hmm question: I left my lp project for a while, due to the time I spend achieving my internship. Does lp delete inactive projects ? | 20:47 |
flacoste | Goundy: but maxb is right, the main focus is collaboartion with free software | 20:47 |
flacoste | Goundy: no | 20:47 |
Goundy | flacoste yea I get it thank you :) | 20:47 |
Goundy | oh that's sweet (project deletion) :) thanks | 20:47 |
flacoste | Demophobie: you can ask, if i'm not able to help you out, the best thing will be to file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion | 20:47 |
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Demophobie | flacoste: thanks. Do u think ../de/LC_MESSAGES/test.po would be enough to let the system automatically catch what language i mean? | 20:49 |
flacoste | Demophobie: wow, i don't know. I think not, but best to file a question on launchpad, everyone working on translations is on holiday today | 20:51 |
Demophobie | flacoste: ah ok - i think i will commit it and try - he? :D | 20:52 |
flacoste | yeah, the worst that can happen is that it will stick in a queue for manual approval | 20:52 |
Demophobie | right :D | 20:52 |
Demophobie | flacoste: doesnt work - "need's review" :( | 21:25 |
flacoste | that's what i thought | 21:25 |
flacoste | only de.po is automatically approved | 21:25 |
Demophobie | damnit | 21:26 |
Demophobie | :D | 21:26 |
flacoste | you could file a bug for that other format if it's widely used | 21:26 |
Demophobie | when will it be committed? ;) hmm | 21:26 |
Demophobie | flacoste: what about .../de/LC_MESSAGES/de.po | 21:27 |
Demophobie | will that be ok? | 21:27 |
flacoste | maybe? | 21:27 |
flacoste | i have honestly no idea | 21:27 |
Demophobie | flacoste: hm D: | 21:35 |
Demophobie | :D | 21:35 |
Demophobie | worth a try lol | 21:36 |
bx2 | hi all | 21:53 |
bx2 | is there any way to remove project from launchpad? | 21:53 |
Snova | I think you need to file a question on answers.launchpad.net somewhere. | 21:55 |
Demophobie | flacoste: i give up | 22:10 |
Demophobie | flacoste: ../languages/de/LC_MESSAGES/de.po doesnt work!!! :( | 22:11 |
Demophobie | The files are named language.po now - and still the system doesnt like it! | 22:12 |
Demophobie | i'm unhappy lol | 22:13 |
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popey | i just used ubuntu-bug to file a bug and got "Application error. Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication." when i finally submitted it | 22:20 |
cavedon | I am still not able to upload to my PPA | 22:21 |
cavedon | I get: | 22:21 |
cavedon | Rejected: | 22:21 |
cavedon | Could not find person '' | 22:21 |
flacoste | popey: there was an app server restart just 10 minutes ago, retry it should work fine now | 22:23 |
flacoste | cavedon: is this a first time? | 22:23 |
popey | thanks flacoste | 22:25 |
cavedon | no, I was getting this a couple of hours ago | 22:26 |
cavedon | popey: in the past I never had this problem | 22:26 |
cavedon | popey: mhm, it is the first time upload since installing jaunty | 22:26 |
flacoste | cavedon: can you file a question answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion ? | 22:27 |
cavedon | sotty, previous messages were for flacoste, not popey | 22:27 |
flacoste | i'll make sure someone in the know follows-up | 22:27 |
cavedon | flacoste: tnx | 22:28 |
mirak | 180.51-0ubuntu1+ppa3 <= 180.51-0ubuntu1-ppa2 ??? | 22:37 |
mirak | I really don't understand the versions | 22:37 |
Demophobie | flacoste: ok made it /languages/de.po , fr.po etc now | 22:38 |
Demophobie | flacoste: if that doesnt work, i get mad :D | 22:38 |
flacoste | Demophobie: hang on here | 22:38 |
flacoste | Demophobie: is this in a branch? | 22:39 |
flacoste | mirak: + sorts before - | 22:39 |
mirak | someone told me the reason is that the version compared are 180.51 <= 180.51-0ubuntu1 | 22:43 |
mirak | because the last minux matter | 22:43 |
Demophobie | flacoste: yes its in a branch | 22:43 |
Demophobie | flacoste: it doesnt work - i give up lol | 22:45 |
flacoste | Demophobie: that's the best i can find https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faq/173 | 22:46 |
flacoste | Demophobie: i suggest you ask a question about what is the proper naming convention so that we can expand this | 22:46 |
Demophobie | flacoste: i looked at other projects and they alle had /language/de.po and so on | 22:46 |
Demophobie | i think i will wait a day | 22:46 |
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popey | 23:05:39 < ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/370557/+text) | 23:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 370557 in moreutils "ifdata doesn't support long device names" [Undecided,New] | 23:05 |
popey | just got that when i mentioned a bug | 23:06 |
Demophobie | flacoste_afk: ok thx - we will see - but my actual settings must work - hope this problem fixes itself :D | 23:10 |
cavedon | flacoste_afk: sorry, it was my fault, I forgot I had moved the dput configuration :( | 23:12 |
tumbleweed | is it just me, or do bzr branches take a lot longer to sync on edge.lp than they used to? | 23:24 |
tumbleweed | it's not too bad when you are using ssh, but when psuhing with ssh and pulling via http on another box, the 15 minute wait is *painful* | 23:26 |
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asac | hmm something is wrong ... zillions of builds waiting in queue, but all builders idle https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/ | 23:44 |
asac | any idea? | 23:44 |
Ampelbein | asac: seems to have resolved, all builders are busy right now. | 23:46 |
asac | yeah | 23:46 |
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