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mwhudsonBasicOSX: that looks fairly embarrassing00:06
BasicOSX?00:07
BasicOSXThe error or my reporting of it?00:07
mwhudsonBasicOSX: the error00:07
mwhudsoni don't know if any bugs people are around now though00:07
BasicOSXwhen I click on it, wants me to auth, so I don't know what the error code says :-)00:07
mwhudsonBasicOSX: i'd recommend filing a bug on malone00:07
mwhudsonBasicOSX: right00:07
matsubaramwhudson: BasicOSX filed already. I'm triaging it and will ask one of the Bugs guys to take a look tomorrwo00:08
mwhudsonmatsubara: oh ok00:08
BasicOSXI filed bug report for it in LP itself.00:08
kikoBasicOSX, I'm looking00:09
BasicOSXbug 37011700:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370117 in launchpad "Attempting to add "Affects" project to bug report results in OOPS-1216D2336" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37011700:09
kikoBasicOSX, oh, very interesting00:09
kikoBasicOSX, what's the product you're using?00:09
kikoit is assuming that the remote product is set to use sourceforge and has an ampersand in it00:10
kikobut the data seems wrong00:10
BasicOSXhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/netrek/ is the product? Never heard or seen the word product00:10
kikoBasicOSX, so it's launchpad.net/netrek?00:11
BasicOSXlp/mactrek00:11
kikoBasicOSX, is it meant to use SF or launchpad?00:12
kikofor bug filing I mean.00:12
BasicOSXAttempting to do MultiProjectBugs00:12
kikoBasicOSX, you can't do that for a single upstream00:13
BasicOSXmactrek is branch of SF project00:13
BasicOSXbug in mactrek may or may not be in SF project code base00:13
kikoBasicOSX, but do you want bugs on it to be reported there?00:13
kikobasically I think you want to do something we don't support today00:14
kikoI think you want to have one bug with a task against netrek in sourceforge and another against mactrek00:14
BasicOSXhttps://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/MultiProjectBugs I wanna do that00:14
kikoBasicOSX, show me the bug you filed?00:14
BasicOSXhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/mactrek/+bug/37010600:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370106 in mactrek "Server receives multiple connections" [Undecided,New]00:15
BasicOSXhttp://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2139750&group_id=165507&atid=83569600:16
kikoBasicOSX, okay, and you want to link that to the bug in sourceforge?00:16
BasicOSXI would like to link 370106 to SF 213975000:16
kikoyou can't do that.00:17
kikoI realize why you want to do it00:17
kikobut you can't00:17
kikoBasicOSX, either a project uses sourceforge or it uses launchpad00:17
kikoit can't use both at once00:17
kikomultiproject bugs is for different projects00:17
kikoi.e.00:17
BasicOSXhmm, how is that any different then https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/MultiProjectBugs and the "Bugs in external trackers" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/2422000:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed]00:17
kikoa bug which affects mactrek and, say, the compiler at the same time00:17
kikoBasicOSX, it has to be multiple projects. it can't be the same upstream twice00:18
kikoyou can ask me why and I could explain but basically it is a limitation of the system00:18
kikowhich I now think we should fix!00:18
BasicOSXMozilla Thunderbird is different project then mozilla-thunderbird (Debian) ?00:19
kikoyes.00:19
kikoMozilla Thunderbird is the upstream mozilla.org project00:19
BasicOSXI have mactrek (Display name OSXTreak) as 1 project and sourceforge-mactrek as another project, how is that different? :-)00:19
kikomozilla-thunderbird (Debian) is the Debian package of it.00:19
kikoyou have a sourceforge-mactrek?!00:20
BasicOSXyes00:20
kikoI see00:20
kikookay I am not going to interfere :)00:20
BasicOSXsourceforge-mactrek's bug tracker is linked SF bug tracker00:20
kikolet me just fix the data up00:20
kikoyeah00:20
kikoI realize00:20
BasicOSXreading the MultiProjectBugs stuff I got that regardless of where the bug tracker lives, the project must be reg'd with launchpad00:21
kikoyeah, it's right00:22
kikookay00:22
kikoso can you try doing the same thing you did before?00:22
kikoI think I fixed the data00:22
BasicOSXtaking clue from mozilla project, I did sourceforge-mactrek, linked to SF bug tracker, maybe I misunderstand, like I previously stated, the multi-project/cross-project bug info is not very easy to understand and there is not documentation on how to set it up.00:22
kikoyeah, it's complicated and bad00:23
kikobut can you retry your operation?00:24
BasicOSXwe are attempting to migrate to LP, but many think data and knowledge will be lost on a migration, so I'm attempting to pacify them00:24
kikoBasicOSX, understood00:24
kikowe can actually import bugs from SF00:25
BasicOSXmactrek is silly, think only 1 bug left open :-(00:25
kikogotcha00:25
kikookay then00:25
BasicOSXkiko:  did I set something up wrong that you had to "fix the data"?00:27
kikoyeah, the remote project data00:27
kikobut it is just completely crazy to expect you to know how to fill that out for sourceforge00:27
BasicOSXahh the Remote project00:28
BasicOSXIt's not just the ID it's the whole url?00:28
kikoI have no actual idea00:28
kikothe person who wrote that code is in trouble00:28
BasicOSXok, looking at my sourceforge-mactrek, only thing I see changed is the "Remote Project"00:29
BasicOSXAnyways thank you and the netrek community thanks you00:29
kikoBasicOSX, you guys rock, I am so happy to have you with us00:30
cody-somervilleI love netrek!00:33
kirklanddoes anyone know if this is per year?01:01
kirklandhttp://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=23001:01
mwhudsonkirkland: yes01:05
mwhudsonat least i think so01:05
kirklandmwhudson: it's ambiguous :-)01:05
mwhudsonkirkland: can you pester someone to get that clarified?01:05
mwhudson:)01:05
kirklandmwhudson: heh01:05
kirklandokay01:05
spmkirkland: mwhudson: yes. :-) https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208 - or. if not, it's wrong in multiple places :-D01:06
rowinggolferI'm livid.01:08
rowinggolferhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/37013401:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370134 in launchpad "main contributer to my project is not me" [Undecided,New]01:08
rowinggolfergood night01:09
wgrantspm: A and a few others have been getting 502s from edge this morning.01:41
wgrantOccasionally.01:41
spmwgrant: oopsid?01:41
wgrantspm: Actually, not just edge it seems.01:41
wgrantspm: 502s don't OOPS.01:41
spmoh proxy error. right.01:42
wgrantAre all of the appservers happy?01:43
spmwgrant: yes and were. I have my firming suspicions...01:59
wgrantspm: What's it look like?01:59
* BUGabundo reads topic02:09
BUGabundonothing there02:09
BUGabundoLP down?02:09
BUGabundo"Please try again                    Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.         "02:10
lifelessspm: ^02:10
BUGabundoI talked to wgrant a bit ago02:11
BUGabundobecause hggdh reported some OOPs on Production server/version02:11
BUGabundoso known bug?02:22
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spivBUGabundo: without more details it's impossible to sy02:25
spiv"say", rather02:25
BUGabundook02:26
BUGabundoI'll try to get a few oops02:26
spivBUGabundo: even saying what page / what you were doing would be a start :)02:28
spivLaunchpad is a large app with many parts.02:28
BUGabundosure02:28
BUGabundohttps://launchpad.net/bugs/36667802:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 366678 in ubuntu "9.04 fails to boot on HP DV2-1030US laptop" [Undecided,New]02:28
BUGabundofailed to redirect me to edge, and showed me that error02:28
spivBUGabundo: FWIW, it redirected me, and I don't get an error.02:29
BUGabundospiv: now it does for me too02:30
Ursinhaworks for me as well02:31
BUGabundobut I never got anything like that before02:31
BUGabundohi hggdh02:34
BUGabundocan you describe what happened to you ?02:34
hggdhmany times these last days I try to open a LP page and get a "sorry there was a problem with LP (etc) please wait a few minutes and try again (etc)". Last one was while I was trying to apport a kernel oops02:36
mwhudsonhggdh: the OSAs are looking at this issue now02:36
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spm*** Question for those having observed these issues: is it ONLY on edge? or originally on edge? I'm guessing no.. but. ???02:39
BUGabundospm: hggdh doesn't use edge02:39
georgethebanditit wont work02:39
hggdhspm, I *do* not use edge02:39
hggdhsigh. I do *not*02:39
BUGabundoand for me it happened just before I got redirect to edje02:39
spmcool. that does help. ta.02:40
Ursinhaedje is an enlightenment lib :P02:40
BUGabundois what Ursinha?02:40
hggdhedje (as opposed to edge)02:40
UrsinhaBUGabundo, what hggdh said02:40
georgethebanditi second that02:41
* BUGabundo is lost02:41
hggdh<BUGabundo> and for me it happened just before I got redirect to ***edje***02:41
hggdh:-)02:41
* BUGabundo is even loster now02:43
Ursinhathanks hggdh :)02:43
Ursinhaomg02:43
Ursinhawhat's wrong with you man02:43
Ursinha:)02:43
BUGabundosleep deprived?02:43
UrsinhaedJe != edGe02:43
BUGabundo3am here02:43
BUGabundoUrsinha: is was a clear typo02:43
Ursinhasure, and that was a clear joke02:44
georgethebanditi was lost02:44
Ursinhahggdh just followed me :)02:44
Ursinhageorgethebandit, are you okay now? :)02:44
georgethebandityes02:45
georgethebanditi think i get it02:45
Ursinha:)02:45
BUGabundoI almost never get sarcasm or some jokes....02:45
hggdhall hail pinot noir!02:45
BUGabundoand I'm even worse trying to do sarcams02:45
hggdhsorry BUGabundo02:45
BUGabundoso I just avoid it02:45
UrsinhaBUGabundo, I made a note to add a </joke> tag when talking to you this late :P02:46
BUGabundoeheehh02:46
BUGabundookay. that will help02:46
* BUGabundo blond, sleepy guy smiles02:46
zu22hi can somneone help me with LP?03:13
zu22i want to join this project but i see no button or link for doing so: https://launchpad.net/mactrek03:13
zu22i am already logged in with LP account03:14
lifelessthere may be a /team/ you can join03:14
zu22oh03:14
zu22how do i join that?03:14
lifelesswell, if there is one, then on the team's home page there is a 'join this team' link03:14
lifelessthat said, you don't need to be in a team to contribute to a project03:14
lifelesswhat is it you want to do with mactrek ?03:14
zu22i want to find bugs03:14
zu22and report them03:15
lifelessso, download the code, and report bugs  :)03:15
zu22ok :)03:15
zu22i never used objective C before so this may be weird03:15
zu22i am used to regular ANSI C :)03:15
lifelesshttps://code.launchpad.net/mactrek and https://bugs.launchpad.net/mactrek03:15
zu22lifeless: thanks03:15
zu22i need learn svn syntax03:15
zu22so i can get code with svn03:16
zu22i normally use darcs03:16
lifelessthe code is in bzr03:16
lifelessnot svn ;)03:17
lifelesshttps://code.edge.launchpad.net/~tanner/mactrek/trunk03:17
hggdhjust got the error message again "Please try again"03:17
pooliethumper/jml: interesting question in http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-privacy-features-for-commercial-subscribers03:29
* thumper looks03:29
thumperhmm03:30
mwhudsoni think the answer should be "yes, but carefully"03:31
jmlright.03:31
jmltbh, I don't understand the linked bug03:32
mwhudsoni think it's basically a soyuz bug03:32
mwhudsonbut yeah, "embargoed" is pretty ambiguous03:33
pooliei posted to that effect03:34
poolieit's awaiting modification03:34
poolieiirc you can ask for the feature to be enabled and then it'll be turned on?03:34
thumpernot necessarily03:35
jmlpoolie: what do you think is particularly interesting about the question?03:38
poolieit's not _super_ interesting, but 1- it went unanswered for a while; 2- he is (or was) a bit of a fudster but it's possible to give a reasonable answer; 3- it's something mark talked about last week03:39
poolieoh woo!03:41
pooliei love the new +filebug form with options to set state03:41
poolieanyhow i filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/370170 as a handle03:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370170 in launchpad-code "need an easy way to request private branch support" [Undecided,New]03:41
wgrantThat bug looks to me like it's just requesting a normal Zope security policy...04:37
tansellhow big can your ppa achieve be?05:44
spmtansell: within reason. :-) We'll increase as needs be, if you ask for more via Answers.05:49
tansellspm, is there a default limit? I seem to remeber seeing something about 1g but can't find it now05:50
spmyes 1Gb is the default05:50
* tansell goes to request more05:50
spmheh05:51
spmtansell: give me the answer link in < 5 mins and I'll increase here'n'now :-)05:51
tansellwhich project should the question be under? Launchpad or ubuntu?05:52
spmlaunchpad05:52
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spmturutosiya: please don't do that05:53
turutosiyasorry05:53
turutosiyamisoperated05:53
tansellspm, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6946005:56
spmtansell: have increased to 2. see how you go with that; we can always increase more.05:57
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tansellspm, okay - but I have yet to get to building python-ogre itself :(05:59
anyrPlease, hel me. I just install jaunty and can't change screen resolution from 720x350 to any other (video radeon x600).07:54
al-maisananyr: I am afraid you are in the wrong room here, try #ubuntu07:59
anyrsorry07:59
al-maisanno problem :)07:59
SiDiHello people10:01
muteWHi, just a quick question.10:01
SiDiWhen there's a LP question talking about something illegal (ie in this case "hi i downloaded program X and i wanna run it"), should we only reject the question or should it be completely deleted ?10:02
muteWI am running Ubuntu 9.04 on an old Acer laptop and have been having these frequent lockups where the entire system freezes.10:02
muteWThe only way out is to either reboot or use the Magic SysRq key to do a clean reboot..10:02
bigkevmcdmuteW: try #ubuntu10:02
SpadsmuteW: apropos of this channel, run ubuntu-bug from a terminal10:03
rowinggolfermrevell :) thanks!10:03
muteWok10:03
Vantraxany launchpad administrators here?10:06
matt2Launchpad been dodge for a week?10:14
matt2*day10:15
Vantraxa little bit10:16
* matt2 is excited because he created a branch of some code10:17
matt2could get my scout badge for contributing to free software10:17
SiDimatt2: :)10:19
wgrantWhat's dodgy about it?10:20
matt2just unreliable, getting "launchpad is busy" errors10:20
bigjoolswgrant: the bug you just filed, I have a feeling it's a dupe but I can't for the life of me find one10:55
bigjoolsaha10:56
wgrantbigjools: I don't think that's a dupe.11:19
wgrantBut I suppose it'll be fixed at the same time.11:19
bigjoolswgrant: read the original description, it's talking about changing the text depending on whether you have upload privs or not11:20
wgrantbigjools: True.11:20
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gnomefreakwhen is the plan to add karmic to PPA?11:49
wgrantgnomefreak: Done.11:49
wgrantDays ago.11:50
gnomefreakwgrant: oh ok i didnt see it in sources.list drop down11:50
wgrantgnomefreak: Because you have no Karmic packages in your PPA.11:50
wgrantSee https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas for the list of supported DAS.11:50
gnomefreakah ok thanks, i was waiting for it in sources list. Ill be back someone that shouldnt be here is :(11:51
wgrantPardon?11:51
mirakhi11:53
mirakwhen you approve somebody to a team, what this person can do on the ppa ?11:54
mirakdoes someone needs to be moderator to upload packages ?11:54
bigjoolsmirak: they will gain upload privileges to the team's PPA11:54
mirakbigjools: can they also delete packages ?11:55
gnomefreaki'm hearing things11:55
bigjoolsyes11:55
mirakbigjools: so it's a very bad idea to make a team public11:55
mirakI guess11:55
mirakor anyone should upload to it's own ppa then copy the packages to the team ppa ?11:56
bigjoolsmirak: well, you need to decide who needs upload privs and control the team accordingly11:56
mirakok I missed this configuration panel then11:56
bigjoolsit depends on who is a member of the team that owns the PPA11:56
wgrantI've been wondering if the privilege granularity of teams is insufficient. Creating lots of teams doesn't seem like a great solution, and there are things like separating membership approvals and mailing list moderation that are impossible in the current model.11:58
mirakbigjools: I can't find what you are talking about11:59
bigjoolsindeed, we need the concept of roles11:59
bigjoolsmirak: it's simple, if you're a member of the team that owns the PPA, then you can upload/delete11:59
bigjoolsif you're not, you can't11:59
mirakbigjools: ok, I didn't understood what you meant12:00
wgrantbigjools: Until a couple of years ago there was only one type of administrative role, so I guess it's a new problem.12:00
bigjoolswgrant: yes, the use of teams has expanded a lot12:00
bigjoolsCurtis might have something up his sleeve12:01
mirakthe problem here is that you can't trial someone12:01
mirakyou can accept just one person that will wreck your ppa12:01
mirakwithout him having to prove that he can upload packages12:01
mirakor even want to12:01
bigjoolsmirak: in that case, let them use their own PPA and you can copy his packages into yours12:01
mirakok, I should check then if they are doing packages12:02
mirakat least on their ppa12:02
wgrantThe required proliferation of teams is a bit crazy and looks bad.12:02
bigjoolsI agree12:03
wgrantAlthough multiple PPAs is a good start at fixing that :)12:03
mirakok, the guy have no ppa at all yet. For that first one joining the team, I will let him join as it. but fo the other ones I will ask them to upload the packages on their own ppa first.12:04
bigjoolsit took a while :)12:04
mirakis there a way to have in a ppa different categories, like main universe multiverse ?12:05
bigjoolsmirak: no, PPAs don't have components12:05
wgrantbigjools: But... wasn't that feature removed just before the initial PPA deployment? I saw a bug in the last few weeks beforehand about fixing the implementation to work with only one PPA per user.12:05
bigjoolsbut you can have multiple PPAs for the same team/person12:05
mirakso we can't manage restricted packages12:05
wgrantMultiple PPAs per Person is a much better solution that components.12:05
bigjoolsyep12:06
mirakthat's what I did12:06
mirakhave you heard about flamewars on ppa teams already ?12:07
bigjoolsno, really?12:07
miraklike repository killing12:07
mirakand stuff ?12:07
mirakbigjools: I haven't !! it's a question ^^12:08
bigjoolsoh :)12:08
wgrantMost people only add trusted people to their PPA teams, I suspect.12:08
wgrantAnd most people aren't evil.12:08
bigjoolsmirak: no, I've not heard of that happening12:08
mirakanyway going to the process of creating a gpg key and stuff is anoying enough to not wanting to be blacklisted ^^12:09
mirakthrough/to12:09
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eraserHello! Is there something going on with server today?12:31
eraserIt's impossible to translate anything. Continious errer message from site bugs ... Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.12:31
bigjoolseraser: we're aware of the problem, someone is looking into it, thanks.12:42
phoozleIs anyone having problems on Launchpad Answers?12:47
intellectronicaphoozle: what kind of problem are you having?12:47
phoozleIm supplying an answer and I get this error: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.12:48
phoozleshould I just give it some time?12:48
bigjoolsphoozle: : there's a general timeout problem, someone is looking into it12:48
phoozleok cheers12:48
phoozlethe person im supporting just posted 3 duplicated questions so that could be related also.12:49
wgrantAha, good to see somebody is looking into it - I hit that a bit 12 hours ago.12:49
cemchi. problems with launchpad? i noticed yesterday and today it gives me a lot of 'please try again'13:05
jpdscemc: They are working on it.13:06
cemccool, thanks13:06
Goundylp is written in php right ?13:06
bigjoolsPython13:07
Goundyah13:07
Goundybigjools full python ?13:07
bigjoolsI don't understand your question, what do you mean by full?13:07
Goundybigjools I mean the whole plateforme is python based there's no other techno ?13:07
bigjoolsOh I see, yes pretty much, apart from the javascript and there's a few C extensions for performance critical parts13:08
GoundyNice13:08
jarnosThere are problems in connecting to the Launchpad server. I frequently get the "Please try again" page.13:12
jpdsjarnos: Known problem, they're working on it.13:13
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dfinf2Hey, I can't seem to connect to the Launchpad server...Trying to download Furius ISO Mount13:20
binarymutantwill it be posted here when the known problems are fixed?13:21
bigjoolsyes13:21
binarymutantcool ty13:22
TomHallaunchpad is slowing downnnnnnnnnnnnnn13:24
pmatulisANNOUNCEMENT: Launchpad.net is experiencing severe trouble.  STOP CONNECTING13:25
theoldfellowI can't report a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ is saying tell you herer.13:27
jpdstheoldfellow: See /topic.13:27
elmopmatulis: please don't say that13:28
theoldfellowpropably all that Jaunty update bugs..  :)13:28
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theoldfellowanyone know how to make Preferred Applications work - it keeps trying to use Evolution ?13:29
rowinggolfertheoldfellow: it?13:30
theoldfellowJaunty - Open Office for instance.13:30
jpdstheoldfellow: Try #ubuntu for general support questions.13:30
theoldfellowOK, thanks.13:30
TomHalpmatulis: I have a product to get out today.  Any idea when LP will be responding quicker?13:35
bigjoolsanyone who's experiencing problems, is it on the edge servers too?13:36
bigjoolsand does anyone have any OOPS IDs please13:37
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VK7HSEhttp://dl.getdropbox.com/u/927280/Screenshot-Please%20try%20again%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png13:39
VK7HSEcan't login to try sorry :(13:39
bigjoolsugh nasty, thanks13:39
jpdsbigjools: I don't get a problem accessing my code page on edge.13:40
pmatulisTomHal: no, sorry13:41
satansauntso, question about football manager 200913:41
satansauntcan i run it in xubuntu 9.04? or do i still have to keep booting into windows...13:42
bigjoolsjpds: we see the same, thanks for confirming13:42
satansauntwhich, by the way, i really don't like having to do13:42
TomHalpmatulis: is it certain id's links, ??????13:42
jpdssatansaunt: Try asking in #xubuntu, this channel is for Launchpad support.13:42
jpdsbigjools: No problem.13:43
satansauntthere's no one there to answer my question, that's why i asked here13:43
binarymutantsatansaunt, ask in #ubuntu then :P13:43
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gmerrickMorning all.  I'm having an issue with Volume Applet 2.26.0 on Jaunty and would like to know where I should file a bug report on it13:46
bigjoolsgmerrick: run "ubuntu-bug"13:48
jpdsgmerrick: Probably https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets - #ubuntu-bugs will be able to help you too.13:49
bigjoolsjpds: the distro guys would rather people used ubuntu-bug13:49
jpdsbigjools: True, just pointing out the package.13:50
gmerrickheh.  Unless you know the actual package ubuntu-bug doesn't help much.  Looks like it is a part of gnome-applets, according to synaptic.13:50
mnemohow long until it's fixed?13:51
bigjoolsmnemo: we don't know yet13:51
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bigjoolsit should be fixed now14:21
andolbigjools: Well, LP works fine for me now anyway :) Thanks!14:22
bigjoolsgood to hear14:22
gmerrickThanks for the help.  Got that bug posted now the sites' working14:26
mnemowhat is the correct package for text error on help.launchpad.net website?14:28
mnemoi.e. which package for this bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/37034214:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370342 in malone "help.launchpad.net step by step guide is incorrect" [Undecided,New]14:28
mirakis it possible to create binary deps with a different version but from the same source. depending of the sources it was built against ?14:28
wgrantmnemo: You can fix it yourself, or reassign the bug to the launchpad-documentation project.14:29
wgrantmirak: How are you specifying the binary dependencies?14:29
wgrantmirak: You assigned the bug to the team, rather than changing its target.14:32
wgrantEr, mnemo ^^14:32
mnemowgrant: hmm, should I not assign it to the team?14:33
wgrantmnemo: No, you should instead change the project.14:33
wgrantIn the top field.14:33
wgrantAssigning people is generally not a good idea.14:34
mnemoah, you mean the package?14:34
wgrant(unless it's you)14:34
wgrantmnemo: It's a project, not a package.14:34
wgrantAlthough packages can have bugs targetted to them too, this is not one of those.14:34
mnemoyea ok I think its corrected now?14:35
wgrantmnemo: Yep, that looks good.14:35
mnemowgrant: hey, what about this bug btw? --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/369221   i wonder if this part of launchpad is open source? if so, is it possible for me to fix that bug myself and attach a debdiff or so?14:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 369221 in malone "boost upstream attention to LP bug activity by making access easier" [Undecided,New]14:37
wgrantmnemo: That part of Launchpad will be open source in nearly three months.14:38
mnemowgrant: ok, what do you think about the chances of someone on the LP team taking on this bug?14:39
mnemoI feel its a pretty nice improvment14:39
wgrantmnemo: I don't know. I'm just a user.14:39
mnemooh I see :)14:39
mnemoin case anyone from canonical's launchpad team is here, please have a look at this tiny feature request and see what you think! thanks :)   --https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/36922114:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 369221 in malone "boost upstream attention to LP bug activity by making access easier" [Undecided,New]14:40
mnemothere14:40
mnemoi hope they will implement this change14:40
wgrantIf not, you can try in a few months.14:40
mirakwgrant: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.8), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), vdr-abi-1.7.614:43
wgrantmirak: You specify those manually in debian/control?14:44
mirakwgrant: there is a subst variable wich value came from vdr-dev package14:44
wgrantWhat is the line in debian/control?14:45
wgrantmirak: ^^14:45
mirakwgrant: what I don't find nice is that if I upgrade vdr abi, then I am forced to also upgrade the changelog of the plugin, and only this, just to have a different binary name.14:46
wgrantmirak: Which changelog of which plugin?14:46
wgrantAnd why?14:46
mirakwgrant: of all plugins14:53
mirakwgrant: because how can I rebuild them otherwise ? and how can the previous vdr version have it's plugins ?14:54
wgrantmirak: I must be missing some context here. What plugins are depending on what?14:54
mirakwgrant: vdr have a lot of plugins14:54
wgrantmirak: And those plugins depend on vdr-abi-X.Y.Z?14:55
mirakwgrant: yes14:55
wgrantmirak: You need the binary packages to have a different version number, so you need to upload a new source version, so you need to add a new changelog entry.14:55
wgrantThere's no way around it.14:56
mirakwgrant: that's what I complain about14:57
wgrantmirak: So, the answer to your initial question is 'No'14:57
mirakwgrant: I see no reason to change the source version when the source is exactly the same14:57
mirakwgrant: ok14:58
miraklol14:58
wgrantmirak: The binary version comes from the source version. It might at some point be possible to do binary-only rebuilds which append something to the version, but that's a bit ugly and not possible at this time.14:58
mirakwgrant: I mean here there should be a mecanism that just name the binary package version according to some version of the source package it depends14:58
mirakwgrant: ok, at least people though about that14:59
mirakwgrant: I don't feel it's ugly, it's just logical. since a source can produce a different binary output there is no reason that the binary package keeps the same version name if they can vary15:00
mirakthe lpia architecture on ubuntu is 32 bits ?16:01
Vantraxpretty sure16:10
mirakwhere are the repository for lpia ??16:25
tsimpsonmirak: http://ports.ubuntu.com16:35
miraktsimpson: ha right16:37
aleksander_mhi all... I get a connection refused (Errno 111) when using dput to upload a new package to my PPA17:21
aleksander_mAny hint?17:21
bigjoolsaleksander_m: can you show me your dput.cf please?17:21
Spadsaleksander_m: The upload service is undergoing brief maintenance at the moment17:22
aleksander_myesterday I could do it...17:22
aleksander_mlet me pastebin it17:22
SpadsPPA uploads will be unavailable for a brief time.17:22
bigjoolsaleksander_m: ok don't worry17:22
aleksander_mhttp://pastebin.com/mabab4ca17:23
aleksander_mah ok17:23
Spadsaleksander_m: I'll let you know when it's ready for you.  Apologies for the inconvenience.17:23
aleksander_mno problem17:23
aleksander_mmy battery will die quite soon, so I'll leave it for this evening :-)17:24
aleksander_mthanks and cheers17:24
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SpadsPPA uploads will now function again as expected.17:39
bjfsSince I'm new to PPAs then I ask if there's some app that allows user to select a given PPA to his or hers repo on sources.list ?17:58
c_kornhello, my upload was rejected due to this reason: http://pastebin.com/d7eefc76818:22
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al-maisanc_korn: could you please try again?18:37
al-maisanThis may be fall-out from the difficulties we had today..18:37
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c_kornal-maisan: same error again18:46
al-maisanhmm..18:46
c_kornhttp://pastebin.com/d4e7074cd18:46
c_kornthat was a no orig upload. https://launchpad.net/~c-korn/+archive/ppa18:49
al-maisanwhat is a "no orig" upload?18:49
c_kornthe orig tarball was already uploaded. I only did a debuild -S -sd and uploaded the diff.gz, dsc and source_changes file. but no tarball18:51
al-maisanc_korn: how was the orig tarball uploaded beforehand?18:52
c_korndebuild -S -sa includes the tarball in source_changes. so it was uploaded at first time18:53
LarstiQdid the upload with the orig succeed?18:54
flacosteno18:54
flacostethat's probably the issue18:54
flacostethe PPA box was offline for a short while to put new disks in18:55
c_kornthe upload with orig was successful before18:55
flacostec_korn: can you create a complete uploade and try again?18:55
c_kornok18:55
al-maisangood idea.18:55
c_kornalso rejected: http://pastebin.com/d374f7c1819:01
al-maisanc_korn: could you please also paste the changes file for the failed upload?19:01
c_kornmail: http://pastebin.com/d3f95d678 changes: http://pastebin.com/d7c1e84cd19:03
al-maisanthanks.19:03
al-maisanc_korn: we are analyzing the problem and have a first "clue"..19:10
c_kornok, thanks. I have to leave now19:12
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DemophobieHey! Is .../.../languages/de/.../test.po enough to let the system find what language i have in the trunk?19:32
* maxb wonders if there's a timetable for how the PPA buildd pool grows and shrinks19:40
mirakRejected:19:50
mirakUnhandled exception processing upload: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/srv/launchpad.net/ppa-queue/incoming/upload-20090501-182251-000012/~mirak-mirak/ubuntu/tmpUzp-jE'19:50
elmomirak: see /topic19:51
mirakelmo: thanks19:52
elmook, PPA upload problems are fixed20:03
maxbAny news on when there might be some more builders available?20:03
elmomirak, c_korn: ^--20:03
elmomaxb: early next week20:03
maxbMy PPA is broken because the arch-any packages have built but the arch-all ones haven't20:04
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maxbI suppose I should register a /staging secondary PPA, build new uploads in that, and then write something using launchpadlib to sync them over when fully built20:05
flacostemaxb: why can''t you simply ask for a rebuild?20:06
maxbflacoste: The problem is version skew between arch-all and arch-any binary packages, because the i386 builders are running far behind20:09
flacostemaxb: then i guess your staging idea isn't a bad one20:09
maxbAm I just missing it, or is there no launchpadlib way to delete packages?20:10
flacostemaxb: i don't find it20:14
flacostemaxb: you should file a bug on soyuz to add it20:15
Goundyguys... I just noticed something weird.... well I might be wrong but...20:34
GoundyWhen I visit the description page of lp I see: Publish your work. Collaborate with free software communities.20:34
GoundyBut right now, while browsing the registred projects I noticed that some are PROPRIETARY projects20:35
GoundyWhat the hell is that ?20:35
Demophobiesomeone here who understands something about translation in lauchpad?20:35
Goundyactually I know that Free doens't mean open source but as stated before lp is presented as a plateforme for open source software20:36
Goundyor Am I wrong ?20:36
maxbGoundy: Free projects can use Launchpad for free. Proprietary projects who want to use Launchpad can pay to do so.20:39
Goundymaxb Ah I get it now... This should be stated in the description page don't you think so?20:39
maxbWell, it does describe the primary purpose of Launchpad :-)20:40
GoundyHeh not wrong :)20:40
c_kornelmo: sure that the issue is fixed? I uploaded about 30min ago but it was neither rejected not accepted20:42
Goundymaxb anyway thanks for your hint :)20:42
elmoc_korn: gack, sorry.  epic crontab replacement failure20:42
elmoc_korn: fixed, and processing now20:43
c_kornelmo: thanks, it got accepted now20:45
flacosteGoundy: yeah, we have meant to update that front page with the correct message, it's very well hidden that you can host your proprietary project on LP20:46
Goundyhmm question: I left my lp project for a while, due to the time I spend achieving my internship. Does lp delete inactive projects ?20:47
flacosteGoundy: but maxb is right, the main focus is collaboartion with free software20:47
flacosteGoundy: no20:47
Goundyflacoste yea I get it thank you :)20:47
Goundyoh that's sweet (project deletion) :) thanks20:47
flacosteDemophobie: you can ask, if i'm not able to help you out, the best thing will be to file a question on answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion20:47
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Demophobieflacoste: thanks. Do u think ../de/LC_MESSAGES/test.po would be enough to let the system automatically catch what language i mean?20:49
flacosteDemophobie: wow, i don't know. I think not, but best to file a question on launchpad, everyone working on translations is on holiday today20:51
Demophobieflacoste: ah ok - i think i will commit it and try - he? :D20:52
flacosteyeah, the worst that can happen is that it will stick in a queue for manual approval20:52
Demophobieright :D20:52
Demophobieflacoste: doesnt work - "need's review" :(21:25
flacostethat's what i thought21:25
flacosteonly de.po is automatically approved21:25
Demophobiedamnit21:26
Demophobie:D21:26
flacosteyou could file a bug for that other format if it's widely used21:26
Demophobiewhen will it be committed? ;) hmm21:26
Demophobieflacoste: what about .../de/LC_MESSAGES/de.po21:27
Demophobiewill that be ok?21:27
flacostemaybe?21:27
flacostei have honestly no idea21:27
Demophobieflacoste: hm D:21:35
Demophobie:D21:35
Demophobieworth a try lol21:36
bx2hi all21:53
bx2is there any way to remove project from launchpad?21:53
SnovaI think you need to file a question on answers.launchpad.net somewhere.21:55
Demophobieflacoste: i give up22:10
Demophobieflacoste: ../languages/de/LC_MESSAGES/de.po doesnt work!!! :(22:11
DemophobieThe files are named language.po now - and still the system doesnt like it!22:12
Demophobiei'm unhappy lol22:13
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popeyi just used ubuntu-bug to file a bug and got "Application error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication." when i finally submitted it22:20
cavedonI am still not able to upload to my PPA22:21
cavedonI get:22:21
cavedonRejected:22:21
cavedonCould not find person ''22:21
flacostepopey: there was an app server restart just 10 minutes ago, retry it should work fine now22:23
flacostecavedon: is this a first time?22:23
popeythanks flacoste22:25
cavedonno, I was getting this a couple of hours ago22:26
cavedonpopey: in the past I never had this problem22:26
cavedonpopey: mhm, it is the first time upload since installing jaunty22:26
flacostecavedon: can you file a question answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+addquestion ?22:27
cavedonsotty, previous messages were for flacoste, not popey22:27
flacostei'll make sure someone in the know follows-up22:27
cavedonflacoste: tnx22:28
mirak180.51-0ubuntu1+ppa3 <= 180.51-0ubuntu1-ppa2  ???22:37
mirakI really don't understand the versions22:37
Demophobieflacoste: ok made it /languages/de.po , fr.po etc now22:38
Demophobieflacoste: if that doesnt work, i get mad :D22:38
flacosteDemophobie: hang on here22:38
flacosteDemophobie: is this in a branch?22:39
flacostemirak: + sorts before -22:39
miraksomeone told me the reason is that the version compared are 180.51 <= 180.51-0ubuntu122:43
mirakbecause the last minux matter22:43
Demophobieflacoste: yes its in a branch22:43
Demophobieflacoste: it doesnt work - i give up lol22:45
flacosteDemophobie: that's the best i can find https://answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/+faq/17322:46
flacosteDemophobie: i suggest you ask a question about what is the proper naming convention so that we can expand this22:46
Demophobieflacoste: i looked at other projects and they alle had /language/de.po and so on22:46
Demophobiei think i will wait  a day22:46
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popey23:05:39 < ubottu> Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/370557/+text)23:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 370557 in moreutils "ifdata doesn't support long device names" [Undecided,New]23:05
popeyjust got that when i mentioned a bug23:06
Demophobieflacoste_afk: ok thx - we will see - but my actual settings must work - hope this problem fixes itself :D23:10
cavedonflacoste_afk: sorry, it was my fault, I forgot I had moved the dput configuration :(23:12
tumbleweedis it just me, or do bzr branches take a lot longer to sync on edge.lp than they used to?23:24
tumbleweedit's not too bad when you are using ssh, but when psuhing with ssh and pulling via http on another box, the 15 minute wait is *painful*23:26
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asachmm something is wrong ... zillions of builds waiting in queue, but all builders idle https://edge.launchpad.net/builders/23:44
asacany idea?23:44
Ampelbeinasac: seems to have resolved, all builders are busy right now.23:46
asacyeah23:46

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