[00:06] BasicOSX: that looks fairly embarrassing [00:07] ? [00:07] The error or my reporting of it? [00:07] BasicOSX: the error [00:07] i don't know if any bugs people are around now though [00:07] when I click on it, wants me to auth, so I don't know what the error code says :-) [00:07] BasicOSX: i'd recommend filing a bug on malone [00:07] BasicOSX: right [00:08] mwhudson: BasicOSX filed already. I'm triaging it and will ask one of the Bugs guys to take a look tomorrwo [00:08] matsubara: oh ok [00:08] I filed bug report for it in LP itself. [00:09] BasicOSX, I'm looking [00:09] bug 370117 [00:09] Launchpad bug 370117 in launchpad "Attempting to add "Affects" project to bug report results in OOPS-1216D2336" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370117 [00:09] BasicOSX, oh, very interesting [00:09] BasicOSX, what's the product you're using? [00:10] it is assuming that the remote product is set to use sourceforge and has an ampersand in it [00:10] but the data seems wrong [00:10] http://sourceforge.net/projects/netrek/ is the product? Never heard or seen the word product [00:11] BasicOSX, so it's launchpad.net/netrek? [00:11] lp/mactrek [00:12] BasicOSX, is it meant to use SF or launchpad? [00:12] for bug filing I mean. [00:12] Attempting to do MultiProjectBugs [00:13] BasicOSX, you can't do that for a single upstream [00:13] mactrek is branch of SF project [00:13] bug in mactrek may or may not be in SF project code base [00:13] BasicOSX, but do you want bugs on it to be reported there? [00:14] basically I think you want to do something we don't support today [00:14] I think you want to have one bug with a task against netrek in sourceforge and another against mactrek [00:14] https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/MultiProjectBugs I wanna do that [00:14] BasicOSX, show me the bug you filed? [00:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/mactrek/+bug/370106 [00:15] Launchpad bug 370106 in mactrek "Server receives multiple connections" [Undecided,New] [00:16] http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2139750&group_id=165507&atid=835696 [00:16] BasicOSX, okay, and you want to link that to the bug in sourceforge? [00:16] I would like to link 370106 to SF 2139750 [00:17] you can't do that. [00:17] I realize why you want to do it [00:17] but you can't [00:17] BasicOSX, either a project uses sourceforge or it uses launchpad [00:17] it can't use both at once [00:17] multiproject bugs is for different projects [00:17] i.e. [00:17] hmm, how is that any different then https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/MultiProjectBugs and the "Bugs in external trackers" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/24220 [00:17] Launchpad bug 24220 in mozilla-thunderbird "mozilla-thunderbird: SMTP down negotiation weakness" [High,Confirmed] [00:17] a bug which affects mactrek and, say, the compiler at the same time [00:18] BasicOSX, it has to be multiple projects. it can't be the same upstream twice [00:18] you can ask me why and I could explain but basically it is a limitation of the system [00:18] which I now think we should fix! [00:19] Mozilla Thunderbird is different project then mozilla-thunderbird (Debian) ? [00:19] yes. [00:19] Mozilla Thunderbird is the upstream mozilla.org project [00:19] I have mactrek (Display name OSXTreak) as 1 project and sourceforge-mactrek as another project, how is that different? :-) [00:19] mozilla-thunderbird (Debian) is the Debian package of it. [00:20] you have a sourceforge-mactrek?! [00:20] yes [00:20] I see [00:20] okay I am not going to interfere :) [00:20] sourceforge-mactrek's bug tracker is linked SF bug tracker [00:20] let me just fix the data up [00:20] yeah [00:20] I realize [00:21] reading the MultiProjectBugs stuff I got that regardless of where the bug tracker lives, the project must be reg'd with launchpad [00:22] yeah, it's right [00:22] okay [00:22] so can you try doing the same thing you did before? [00:22] I think I fixed the data [00:22] taking clue from mozilla project, I did sourceforge-mactrek, linked to SF bug tracker, maybe I misunderstand, like I previously stated, the multi-project/cross-project bug info is not very easy to understand and there is not documentation on how to set it up. [00:23] yeah, it's complicated and bad [00:24] but can you retry your operation? [00:24] we are attempting to migrate to LP, but many think data and knowledge will be lost on a migration, so I'm attempting to pacify them [00:24] BasicOSX, understood [00:25] we can actually import bugs from SF [00:25] mactrek is silly, think only 1 bug left open :-( [00:25] gotcha [00:25] okay then [00:27] kiko: did I set something up wrong that you had to "fix the data"? [00:27] yeah, the remote project data [00:27] but it is just completely crazy to expect you to know how to fill that out for sourceforge [00:28] ahh the Remote project [00:28] It's not just the ID it's the whole url? [00:28] I have no actual idea [00:28] the person who wrote that code is in trouble [00:29] ok, looking at my sourceforge-mactrek, only thing I see changed is the "Remote Project" [00:29] Anyways thank you and the netrek community thanks you [00:30] BasicOSX, you guys rock, I am so happy to have you with us [00:33] I love netrek! [01:01] does anyone know if this is per year? [01:01] http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=230 [01:05] kirkland: yes [01:05] at least i think so [01:05] mwhudson: it's ambiguous :-) [01:05] kirkland: can you pester someone to get that clarified? [01:05] :) [01:05] mwhudson: heh [01:05] okay [01:06] kirkland: mwhudson: yes. :-) https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208 - or. if not, it's wrong in multiple places :-D [01:08] I'm livid. [01:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/370134 [01:08] Launchpad bug 370134 in launchpad "main contributer to my project is not me" [Undecided,New] [01:09] good night [01:41] spm: A and a few others have been getting 502s from edge this morning. [01:41] Occasionally. [01:41] wgrant: oopsid? [01:41] spm: Actually, not just edge it seems. [01:41] spm: 502s don't OOPS. [01:42] oh proxy error. right. [01:43] Are all of the appservers happy? [01:59] wgrant: yes and were. I have my firming suspicions... [01:59] spm: What's it look like? [02:09] * BUGabundo reads topic [02:09] nothing there [02:09] LP down? [02:10] "Please try again Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. " [02:10] spm: ^ [02:11] I talked to wgrant a bit ago [02:11] because hggdh reported some OOPs on Production server/version [02:22] so known bug? === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [02:25] BUGabundo: without more details it's impossible to sy [02:25] "say", rather [02:26] ok [02:26] I'll try to get a few oops [02:28] BUGabundo: even saying what page / what you were doing would be a start :) [02:28] Launchpad is a large app with many parts. [02:28] sure [02:28] https://launchpad.net/bugs/366678 [02:28] Launchpad bug 366678 in ubuntu "9.04 fails to boot on HP DV2-1030US laptop" [Undecided,New] [02:28] failed to redirect me to edge, and showed me that error [02:29] BUGabundo: FWIW, it redirected me, and I don't get an error. [02:30] spiv: now it does for me too [02:31] works for me as well [02:31] but I never got anything like that before [02:34] hi hggdh [02:34] can you describe what happened to you ? [02:36] many times these last days I try to open a LP page and get a "sorry there was a problem with LP (etc) please wait a few minutes and try again (etc)". Last one was while I was trying to apport a kernel oops [02:36] hggdh: the OSAs are looking at this issue now === IanMetcalfe is now known as bunzinator [02:39] *** Question for those having observed these issues: is it ONLY on edge? or originally on edge? I'm guessing no.. but. ??? [02:39] spm: hggdh doesn't use edge [02:39] it wont work [02:39] spm, I *do* not use edge [02:39] sigh. I do *not* [02:39] and for me it happened just before I got redirect to edje [02:40] cool. that does help. ta. [02:40] edje is an enlightenment lib :P [02:40] is what Ursinha? [02:40] edje (as opposed to edge) [02:40] BUGabundo, what hggdh said [02:41] i second that [02:41] * BUGabundo is lost [02:41] and for me it happened just before I got redirect to ***edje*** [02:41] :-) [02:43] * BUGabundo is even loster now [02:43] thanks hggdh :) [02:43] omg [02:43] what's wrong with you man [02:43] :) [02:43] sleep deprived? [02:43] edJe != edGe [02:43] 3am here [02:43] Ursinha: is was a clear typo [02:44] sure, and that was a clear joke [02:44] i was lost [02:44] hggdh just followed me :) [02:44] georgethebandit, are you okay now? :) [02:45] yes [02:45] i think i get it [02:45] :) [02:45] I almost never get sarcasm or some jokes.... [02:45] all hail pinot noir! [02:45] and I'm even worse trying to do sarcams [02:45] sorry BUGabundo [02:45] so I just avoid it [02:46] BUGabundo, I made a note to add a tag when talking to you this late :P [02:46] eheehh [02:46] okay. that will help [02:46] * BUGabundo blond, sleepy guy smiles [03:13] hi can somneone help me with LP? [03:13] i want to join this project but i see no button or link for doing so: https://launchpad.net/mactrek [03:14] i am already logged in with LP account [03:14] there may be a /team/ you can join [03:14] oh [03:14] how do i join that? [03:14] well, if there is one, then on the team's home page there is a 'join this team' link [03:14] that said, you don't need to be in a team to contribute to a project [03:14] what is it you want to do with mactrek ? [03:14] i want to find bugs [03:15] and report them [03:15] so, download the code, and report bugs :) [03:15] ok :) [03:15] i never used objective C before so this may be weird [03:15] i am used to regular ANSI C :) [03:15] https://code.launchpad.net/mactrek and https://bugs.launchpad.net/mactrek [03:15] lifeless: thanks [03:15] i need learn svn syntax [03:16] so i can get code with svn [03:16] i normally use darcs [03:16] the code is in bzr [03:17] not svn ;) [03:17] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~tanner/mactrek/trunk [03:17] just got the error message again "Please try again" [03:29] thumper/jml: interesting question in http://blog.launchpad.net/general/new-privacy-features-for-commercial-subscribers [03:29] * thumper looks [03:30] hmm [03:31] i think the answer should be "yes, but carefully" [03:31] right. [03:32] tbh, I don't understand the linked bug [03:32] i think it's basically a soyuz bug [03:33] but yeah, "embargoed" is pretty ambiguous [03:34] i posted to that effect [03:34] it's awaiting modification [03:34] iirc you can ask for the feature to be enabled and then it'll be turned on? [03:35] not necessarily [03:38] poolie: what do you think is particularly interesting about the question? [03:39] it's not _super_ interesting, but 1- it went unanswered for a while; 2- he is (or was) a bit of a fudster but it's possible to give a reasonable answer; 3- it's something mark talked about last week [03:41] oh woo! [03:41] i love the new +filebug form with options to set state [03:41] anyhow i filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/370170 as a handle [03:41] Launchpad bug 370170 in launchpad-code "need an easy way to request private branch support" [Undecided,New] [04:37] That bug looks to me like it's just requesting a normal Zope security policy... [05:44] how big can your ppa achieve be? [05:49] tansell: within reason. :-) We'll increase as needs be, if you ask for more via Answers. [05:50] spm, is there a default limit? I seem to remeber seeing something about 1g but can't find it now [05:50] yes 1Gb is the default [05:50] * tansell goes to request more [05:51] heh [05:51] tansell: give me the answer link in < 5 mins and I'll increase here'n'now :-) [05:52] which project should the question be under? Launchpad or ubuntu? [05:52] launchpad === turutosiya changed the topic of #launchpad to: spm === Topic unset by turutosiya on #launchpad === spm changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | karma count change: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/karma-where-did-mine-go [05:53] turutosiya: please don't do that [05:53] sorry [05:53] misoperated [05:56] spm, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/69460 [05:57] tansell: have increased to 2. see how you go with that; we can always increase more. === stub1 is now known as stub [05:59] spm, okay - but I have yet to get to building python-ogre itself :( [07:54] Please, hel me. I just install jaunty and can't change screen resolution from 720x350 to any other (video radeon x600). [07:59] anyr: I am afraid you are in the wrong room here, try #ubuntu [07:59] sorry [07:59] no problem :) [10:01] Hello people [10:01] Hi, just a quick question. [10:02] When there's a LP question talking about something illegal (ie in this case "hi i downloaded program X and i wanna run it"), should we only reject the question or should it be completely deleted ? [10:02] I am running Ubuntu 9.04 on an old Acer laptop and have been having these frequent lockups where the entire system freezes. [10:02] The only way out is to either reboot or use the Magic SysRq key to do a clean reboot.. [10:02] muteW: try #ubuntu [10:03] muteW: apropos of this channel, run ubuntu-bug from a terminal [10:03] mrevell :) thanks! [10:03] ok [10:06] any launchpad administrators here? [10:14] Launchpad been dodge for a week? [10:15] *day [10:16] a little bit [10:17] * matt2 is excited because he created a branch of some code [10:17] could get my scout badge for contributing to free software [10:19] matt2: :) [10:20] What's dodgy about it? [10:20] just unreliable, getting "launchpad is busy" errors [10:55] wgrant: the bug you just filed, I have a feeling it's a dupe but I can't for the life of me find one [10:56] aha [11:19] bigjools: I don't think that's a dupe. [11:19] But I suppose it'll be fixed at the same time. [11:20] wgrant: read the original description, it's talking about changing the text depending on whether you have upload privs or not [11:20] bigjools: True. === Lure_ is now known as Lure [11:49] when is the plan to add karmic to PPA? [11:49] gnomefreak: Done. [11:50] Days ago. [11:50] wgrant: oh ok i didnt see it in sources.list drop down [11:50] gnomefreak: Because you have no Karmic packages in your PPA. [11:50] See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas for the list of supported DAS. [11:51] ah ok thanks, i was waiting for it in sources list. Ill be back someone that shouldnt be here is :( [11:51] Pardon? [11:53] hi [11:54] when you approve somebody to a team, what this person can do on the ppa ? [11:54] does someone needs to be moderator to upload packages ? [11:54] mirak: they will gain upload privileges to the team's PPA [11:55] bigjools: can they also delete packages ? [11:55] i'm hearing things [11:55] yes [11:55] bigjools: so it's a very bad idea to make a team public [11:55] I guess [11:56] or anyone should upload to it's own ppa then copy the packages to the team ppa ? [11:56] mirak: well, you need to decide who needs upload privs and control the team accordingly [11:56] ok I missed this configuration panel then [11:56] it depends on who is a member of the team that owns the PPA [11:58] I've been wondering if the privilege granularity of teams is insufficient. Creating lots of teams doesn't seem like a great solution, and there are things like separating membership approvals and mailing list moderation that are impossible in the current model. [11:59] bigjools: I can't find what you are talking about [11:59] indeed, we need the concept of roles [11:59] mirak: it's simple, if you're a member of the team that owns the PPA, then you can upload/delete [11:59] if you're not, you can't [12:00] bigjools: ok, I didn't understood what you meant [12:00] bigjools: Until a couple of years ago there was only one type of administrative role, so I guess it's a new problem. [12:00] wgrant: yes, the use of teams has expanded a lot [12:01] Curtis might have something up his sleeve [12:01] the problem here is that you can't trial someone [12:01] you can accept just one person that will wreck your ppa [12:01] without him having to prove that he can upload packages [12:01] or even want to [12:01] mirak: in that case, let them use their own PPA and you can copy his packages into yours [12:02] ok, I should check then if they are doing packages [12:02] at least on their ppa [12:02] The required proliferation of teams is a bit crazy and looks bad. [12:03] I agree [12:03] Although multiple PPAs is a good start at fixing that :) [12:04] ok, the guy have no ppa at all yet. For that first one joining the team, I will let him join as it. but fo the other ones I will ask them to upload the packages on their own ppa first. [12:04] it took a while :) [12:05] is there a way to have in a ppa different categories, like main universe multiverse ? [12:05] mirak: no, PPAs don't have components [12:05] bigjools: But... wasn't that feature removed just before the initial PPA deployment? I saw a bug in the last few weeks beforehand about fixing the implementation to work with only one PPA per user. [12:05] but you can have multiple PPAs for the same team/person [12:05] so we can't manage restricted packages [12:05] Multiple PPAs per Person is a much better solution that components. [12:06] yep [12:06] that's what I did [12:07] have you heard about flamewars on ppa teams already ? [12:07] no, really? [12:07] like repository killing [12:07] and stuff ? [12:08] bigjools: I haven't !! it's a question ^^ [12:08] oh :) [12:08] Most people only add trusted people to their PPA teams, I suspect. [12:08] And most people aren't evil. [12:08] mirak: no, I've not heard of that happening [12:09] anyway going to the process of creating a gpg key and stuff is anoying enough to not wanting to be blacklisted ^^ [12:09] through/to === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [12:31] Hello! Is there something going on with server today? [12:31] It's impossible to translate anything. Continious errer message from site bugs ... Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [12:42] eraser: we're aware of the problem, someone is looking into it, thanks. [12:47] Is anyone having problems on Launchpad Answers? [12:47] phoozle: what kind of problem are you having? [12:48] Im supplying an answer and I get this error: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server. [12:48] should I just give it some time? [12:48] phoozle: : there's a general timeout problem, someone is looking into it [12:48] ok cheers [12:49] the person im supporting just posted 3 duplicated questions so that could be related also. [12:49] Aha, good to see somebody is looking into it - I hit that a bit 12 hours ago. [13:05] hi. problems with launchpad? i noticed yesterday and today it gives me a lot of 'please try again' [13:06] cemc: They are working on it. [13:06] cool, thanks [13:06] lp is written in php right ? [13:07] Python [13:07] ah [13:07] bigjools full python ? [13:07] I don't understand your question, what do you mean by full? [13:07] bigjools I mean the whole plateforme is python based there's no other techno ? [13:08] Oh I see, yes pretty much, apart from the javascript and there's a few C extensions for performance critical parts [13:08] Nice [13:12] There are problems in connecting to the Launchpad server. I frequently get the "Please try again" page. [13:13] jarnos: Known problem, they're working on it. === jpds changed the topic of #launchpad to: Launchpad is having problems | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | karma count change: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/karma-where-did-mine-go [13:20] Hey, I can't seem to connect to the Launchpad server...Trying to download Furius ISO Mount [13:21] will it be posted here when the known problems are fixed? [13:21] yes [13:22] cool ty [13:24] launchpad is slowing downnnnnnnnnnnnnn [13:25] ANNOUNCEMENT: Launchpad.net is experiencing severe trouble. STOP CONNECTING [13:27] I can't report a bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ is saying tell you herer. [13:27] theoldfellow: See /topic. [13:28] pmatulis: please don't say that [13:28] propably all that Jaunty update bugs.. :) === bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: Launchpad is currently experiencing problems, we are aware. | https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | karma count change: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/karma-where-did-mine-go [13:29] anyone know how to make Preferred Applications work - it keeps trying to use Evolution ? [13:30] theoldfellow: it? [13:30] Jaunty - Open Office for instance. [13:30] theoldfellow: Try #ubuntu for general support questions. [13:30] OK, thanks. [13:35] pmatulis: I have a product to get out today. Any idea when LP will be responding quicker? [13:36] anyone who's experiencing problems, is it on the edge servers too? [13:37] and does anyone have any OOPS IDs please === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:39] http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/927280/Screenshot-Please%20try%20again%20-%20Mozilla%20Firefox.png [13:39] can't login to try sorry :( [13:39] ugh nasty, thanks [13:40] bigjools: I don't get a problem accessing my code page on edge. [13:41] TomHal: no, sorry [13:41] so, question about football manager 2009 [13:42] can i run it in xubuntu 9.04? or do i still have to keep booting into windows... [13:42] jpds: we see the same, thanks for confirming [13:42] which, by the way, i really don't like having to do [13:42] pmatulis: is it certain id's links, ?????? [13:42] satansaunt: Try asking in #xubuntu, this channel is for Launchpad support. [13:43] bigjools: No problem. [13:43] there's no one there to answer my question, that's why i asked here [13:43] satansaunt, ask in #ubuntu then :P === merrick is now known as gmerrick [13:46] Morning all. I'm having an issue with Volume Applet 2.26.0 on Jaunty and would like to know where I should file a bug report on it [13:48] gmerrick: run "ubuntu-bug" [13:49] gmerrick: Probably https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets - #ubuntu-bugs will be able to help you too. [13:49] jpds: the distro guys would rather people used ubuntu-bug [13:50] bigjools: True, just pointing out the package. [13:50] heh. Unless you know the actual package ubuntu-bug doesn't help much. Looks like it is a part of gnome-applets, according to synaptic. [13:51] how long until it's fixed? [13:51] mnemo: we don't know yet === bigjools changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Help contact: - | Join https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-users | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | karma count change: http://blog.launchpad.net/general/karma-where-did-mine-go [14:21] it should be fixed now [14:22] bigjools: Well, LP works fine for me now anyway :) Thanks! [14:22] good to hear [14:26] Thanks for the help. Got that bug posted now the sites' working [14:28] what is the correct package for text error on help.launchpad.net website? [14:28] i.e. which package for this bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/370342 [14:28] Launchpad bug 370342 in malone "help.launchpad.net step by step guide is incorrect" [Undecided,New] [14:28] is it possible to create binary deps with a different version but from the same source. depending of the sources it was built against ? [14:29] mnemo: You can fix it yourself, or reassign the bug to the launchpad-documentation project. [14:29] mirak: How are you specifying the binary dependencies? [14:32] mirak: You assigned the bug to the team, rather than changing its target. [14:32] Er, mnemo ^^ [14:33] wgrant: hmm, should I not assign it to the team? [14:33] mnemo: No, you should instead change the project. [14:33] In the top field. [14:34] Assigning people is generally not a good idea. [14:34] ah, you mean the package? [14:34] (unless it's you) [14:34]