[02:14] <lamont> NCommander: you around?
[02:15] <lamont> nm
[02:17] <NCommander> lamont, yes I am
[02:22] <NCommander> lamont, was there something I could have helped you with?
[02:28]  * NCommander returns to hitting the parisc kernel with a stick
[02:29] <lamont> NCommander: google sufficed
[02:29] <NCommander> lamont, ah, BTW, if you have some time, I have an outstanding RT ticket w.r.t. to the ports-kernel and zinc that would be lovely to be taken care of soonish
[02:29]  * NCommander is currently fighting with the hppa config files
[02:34] <lamont> NCommander: I assume that ticket has a list of which devs should be in the porters group, yes?
[02:34]  * NCommander thinks so
[02:36] <NCommander> lamont, rt #34122
[02:37] <NCommander> lamont, and no I didn't, but its currently myself, and themuso (and probably one or two other people who I'm unsure if they have zinc accounts)
[02:40]  * NCommander notes as soon as the next kernel upload goes, ia64 LiveCDs should be fixed
[04:47] <lamont> kewl
[04:47] <lamont> NCommander: and would be nice to get a custom jaunty livecd iso for ia64 somewhere...
[04:51] <NCommander> lamont, want one?
[04:51] <NCommander> lamont, *can build one for you fairly easily-ish*
[04:51] <lamont> I have a user
[04:51] <lamont> either live or alternate, don't care which, actually
[04:51] <NCommander> lamont, feel like sponsoring some SRUs to fix the ports kernel?
[04:52] <NCommander> lamont, the kernel in jaunty badly hosed w.r.t. to depends, I would need three or four SRUs to fix it
[04:52] <NCommander> Alternative, we can throw sanity to the wind, and build the squashfs out of the karmic kernel which is close to fixed.
[04:53]  * NCommander notes ubuntu-desktop is fairly hosed in jaunty; karmic alpha 1 probably would be happier :-/
[04:53] <lamont> heh.  truthfully, I don't care too much if it's a data-center built iso... :-)
[04:54] <NCommander> lamont, well, fixing jaunty would be painful, the kernel, kernel-meta, ubuntu-desktop, and probably a few other packages need SRUing
[04:54]  * NCommander lacks the hardware :-/
[04:55] <lamont> ah, ok.
[04:55] <lamont> how about source + cookbook?
[04:55] <NCommander> lamont, I have root access to an ia64 at HP, so I can run the livecd builds
[04:55] <NCommander> lamont, I doubt I could get you a working base system. When I say the kernel is hosed, I mean uninstallable
[04:55] <NCommander> I wasn't really planning to fix karmic :-/
[04:55] <NCommander> s/karmic/jaunty/g
[04:56]  * NCommander thinks
[04:57]  * NCommander looks to see if hardy's kernel lines up with what the seeds think
[04:57] <NCommander> How about a Hardy liveCD?
[04:57] <NCommander> The kernel and the seeds agree on what is sane
[04:58] <NCommander> I can build the remaining ia64 packages that need fixing in my PPA
[05:02] <lamont> actually, that'd be cool
[05:05] <NCommander> lamont, I'm trying to figure out why I know these
[05:05] <NCommander> lamont, what variant do you want, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu?
[05:06] <lamont> there's something other than ubuntu? :-D
[05:06] <NCommander> Well, it looks like most of  ubuntu-desktop is there
[05:06] <lamont> I think I got kubuntu CDs once...  still haven't run it ever though
[05:06]  * NCommander is looking at the FTBFS list
[05:06] <NCommander> Well, I'm judging which desktop package is "least broken"
[05:07] <NCommander> When was the last time we tried to build an ia64-anything :-)
[05:07] <lamont> 7.10
[05:07] <lamont> 7.12 is when I quit HP
[05:07] <NCommander> ubuntu-desktop IS installable on ia64
[05:08] <NCommander> Lets find out if we can build the squashfs
[05:08] <NCommander> If we can, we'll take a 7.10 liveCD, take out its rootfs, put in the hardy one, and blamo
[05:08] <lamont> well, I  don't remember if 7.10 actually _worked_ mind you...
[05:08] <NCommander> lamont, best get out of your ia64 and test :-)
[05:08] <NCommander> But hardy looking fairly happy on ia64
[05:09] <NCommander> At least I think I can build the rootfs, so if the kernel is bootable (and ubiquity works), your in business
[05:09] <lamont> as far as running:  hardy: +1, intrepid: runs fine with hardy-kernel+intrepid-user, jaunty: runs fine (thanks NCommander )
[05:09] <lamont> yeah - I testing ia64 is easy at the house.  testing hppa is almost as easy.
[05:10]  * NCommander notes alternates are fairly difficult to build, so if I can get a liveCD to build, its MUCH easier
[05:11] <NCommander> Paradoxially, the liveCDs are a *lot* simpler than the alternates
[05:12] <NCommander> Hrm, we build an ia64 server CD
[05:12] <NCommander> (for Hardy)
[05:12] <NCommander> *built
[05:12] <NCommander> lamont, that might be saner to have him use that, then install ubuntu-cd
[05:13] <lamont> yeah
[05:13] <NCommander> s/ubuntu-cd/ubuntu-desktop
[05:13] <lamont> anyway, I'm told it's bedtime
[05:13] <NCommander> or hop on anitmonthy and do a daily Hardy build :-)
[05:13] <NCommander> lamont, have a good night