[00:05] Hi everyone - just successfully upgraded to Jaunty [00:07] UKGent: congratz :D [00:07] SiDi thanks - my old settings seem OK so far anyway lol [00:08] glad for you :D [00:09] They are already talking about 'Kool' anyway - that seems a more radical departure with 'cloud' capability etc. looking forward to it [00:14] good night people [00:14] night [00:57] I've ifconfig'd eth0, did the iptables command, and installed/configured dnsmasq (all as i did on slackware for simple NAT) but I'm not having much luck here on ubuntu, I have a suspicion that networkmanager is the culprit. Whats the easiest way to set up NAT? [01:13] when I load a music cd Totem movie player opens? [01:13] n2diy, that means you have that option activated in thunar's volume management [01:14] ochos, ok, how do I access that? [01:15] any one ever see this error when trying to modify partitions?? "enclosing drive for volume is locked" [01:15] ochos, edit/prefrences? [01:15] Idespnnr: Sounds like you're actually *using* the drive you want to modify. [01:18] JPohlmann: odd... its the xubuntu live cd [01:19] Idespnnr: Have you mounted one of the existing hard drive partitions? [01:24] .Can someone recommend an intermediate level drawing program, I don't need the power (or learning curve) of Gimp, but I would like to work in a grid enviornment. [01:25] dia, maybe? [01:25] although that's more akin to visio [01:28] JPohlmann: I have not [01:28] I can confirm via mount command [01:28] and cat /proc/mount [01:28] You can also check the listing of "df -h". [01:29] If you have no partition from your hard drive mounted and still get that error that'd be a bug. [01:37] n2diy, sorry, you misspelled my name so i didn't get notified [01:38] n2diy, in case you haven't found it yet: thunar -> edit -> preferences -> advanced -> (under volume management) configure [01:38] ochosi, sorry about that. Yes, I found it. [01:39] hi im trying to use the same script i was using in previous ubuntus (now on 9.04) for my backgrounds... [01:39] i set up a cron job [01:39] */5 * * * * killall -URS1 xfdesktop [01:39] it doesnt seem to work with juanty [01:40] qkall, you have to use xfconf for that (haven't changed the bgimage yet with that, so you'll have to look for yourself) [01:44] ochosi: ok i found a perl script... however i don't fully understand it... [01:45] i know i have to change the folder where my pictures are in the script... but not really understanding it... going to play around... brb [01:48] qkall, example: xfconf-query -c xfce4-desktop -p /backdrop/screen0/monitor0/image-path -s ~/path-to-wallpaper [01:49] Someone told me a command that I since forgot, to reset opengl settings and it fixed my slow <1fps performance. does anybody here know it? [02:24] .Can someone recommend an intermediate level drawing program, I don't need the power (or learning curve) of Gimp, but I would like to work in a grid enviornment. [02:27] Is gnome office suitable for xubuntu? [02:37] n2diy: mtpaint [02:38] TheSheep: tnx [02:38] n2diy: but gimp is really not as hard as rumored, especially recent versions [02:39] TheSheep: well, maybe I'll take another look at it, but I don't need layers and stuff, I just want to draw a grid. [02:41] n2diy: Did you try Dia? [02:42] tantradnya: working on it, can't find it in my menus, so I'm going to try and run it from the cli now. [02:43] I also need same grid based drawing, equivalent to MS Visio [02:43] I will try Kivio but we need KDE [02:44] Inkscapeno idea what visio does [02:44] sorry [02:44] no idea [02:45] tantradnya: Dia just finished loading, and looks like it will do what I want, a grid is displayed by default, don't know if it is printable yet? [02:45] tantradnya: if you need graphs and diagrams, try dia [02:46] Inkscape could work too [02:46] a little more manual [02:46] ok I will try [02:47] neither inkscape or dia are raster though [02:47] both do vectors [02:48] they don't have a good library with ready symbols though, that's a great shame [02:48] you can use system icons with inkscape [02:57] visio is like dia :) [03:13] gha, i'm only on chapter 8... [03:14] and Internet Applications basically needs a rewrite to sound (and look) nice [03:15] fun fun fun making the Help Documents newbie friendly [03:19] Dia is cool, does everything I need, now I'm trying to print my diagram, but I don't know how to tell dia to use the network printer, it is looking for lpr? [03:20] Where is the menu editor in 9.04? [03:22] and why does everything look so different? [03:47] Gnome Office is installed by default, correct? [04:22] Is Scribus installed by default? === CYF is now known as CloseYetFar [04:47] J_Litewski1: i don't believe so [04:47] ok, ty [04:47] fixing some errors in the docs [05:05] why isn't k/x/ubuntu CIFS related shutdown bug still not fixed? or is it just me who keeps getting it? (hardy heron, ibex, and now jaunty) [05:06] am i doing something wrong on the installs? or does everyone get the error message "CIFS VFS: Server Not Responding" errors as well? [05:09] is there a man graphical frontend? [08:26] hello [08:26] guys? [08:28] is nobody there? D: [08:51] what time is keb usually on? [08:55] <_Pete_> 00:00-00:59 [08:56] I have a question for keb D: [08:56] <_Pete_> only for him? [08:56] well [08:56] he solved a problem of mine before. [08:57] and I posted a url here [08:57] and I forgot that url, but need it again [08:57] and I had to reinstall xubuntu, so I can't check MY Internet history. [08:57] <_Pete_> that might be a problem [08:58] the issue is in my resolution [08:58] I have a hand-me-down gateway laptop, and it's a bit finicky [08:58] My screen is 1280x750, and the screen resolution I have right now is 1600x1200 [08:58] I can't see the bottom or right side of my screen. It's a huge pain. [08:59] <_Pete_> unofortunatelly, I cant help you [08:59] that's why keb needs to save the day [08:59] <_Pete_> good point [09:00] <_Pete_> I have already relied to nvidia [09:00] <_Pete_> everything with that works perfectly [09:00] my graphics card is annoying on this [09:01] xubuntu is the best working system I've tried so far, and I've tried a lot of systems [09:01] every OS I install here has the same 1600x1200 resolution [09:01] xubuntu's menu is in the top left, the only part I can see [09:01] <_Pete_> odd [09:01] so it works. [09:02] my windows got a crippling virus, and I'm just using a temporary OS until I can get a new laptop. This one is fairly old. [09:02] <_Pete_> right [09:02] <_Pete_> personally I hate laptops [09:02] Personally [09:02] it's all I have [09:02] Desktops are too expensive for a jobless student [09:03] <_Pete_> yeah right [09:03] <_Pete_> where are you from? [09:03] missouri [09:03] <_Pete_> and where's that ? [09:03] the united states of america? [09:04] <_Pete_> ok [09:04] <_Pete_> you happen to know not all world is usa [09:04] really? [09:04] woahhhh [09:05] <_Pete_> anyway [09:05] <_Pete_> for your resolution problem [09:06] <_Pete_> I can not help :( [09:06] I can deal with it for now. [09:06] <_Pete_> lolz [09:07] <_Pete_> this is "linux for desktops" [09:07] <_Pete_> if you know that [09:07] the only difference is the screen size [09:08] I'm gonna go now [09:09] <_Pete_> If I mau query [09:09] <_Pete_> what do do with comp? [09:09] what does anyone do with a computer [09:10] <_Pete_> well [09:10] youtube and porn [09:10] <_Pete_> if you ask from me [09:10] that's what computers are for [09:10] <_Pete_> I am sure answer is totally different thab yours [09:45] alright [09:45] i need a little help here [09:46] i wanted to try windows game DVD to install via wine and look if it runs [09:46] but Xubuntu does not show any content on said DVD === Datahell2 is now known as Datahell === Datahell is now known as datahell === datahell is now known as Datahell [10:22] hello [10:22] hi [10:23] gonna install x-ubuntu today. Preparing a harddrive thats gonna be dedicated to different OS's :) [10:24] good idea :P [10:24] 200gb sata with, xubuntu, win7, xp and so on [10:24] so no one can tell me why i cant see the DVDs content? [10:24] you should even dedicate it to the Mouse [10:24] Doctor_Vex: codec missing :P [10:24] pherhaps other distro's as well :) [10:24] !medibuntu [10:24] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [10:24] !libdvdcss2 [10:24] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [10:24] !restricted [10:24] codec for what? [10:24] i want to see the content of the DVD [10:24] not some movie [10:24] oh [10:25] you mean your DVD drive ? [10:25] well doh wait [10:26] i just figured that i havent put in a DVD drive in that Xubuntu PC [10:26] Kerio: do you know about dualbooting and bootloaders already ? [10:26] xD [10:26] Doctor_Vex: doh.. :) [10:26] think i got sufficent info about it [10:26] makes sense that the CD drive cant read it [10:26] grub will create an entry for xp as well hopefully? [10:27] Kerio: for XP sure [10:27] nice [10:27] but for vista it's more tricky. [10:27] aha, i see :) [10:27] is it because vista uses different bootloader? [10:27] then xp [10:27] They made it such a way it wont work, at Redmond :p gotta manually edit the menu.lst [10:28] It uses a new bootloader for itself, but the issue is just that vista requires disks to be mapped in a particular way to accept booting [10:28] you have to make him believe he's on HDD 0, or something like that (*doesn't really remember*) [10:29] how strange [10:29] Yeh :P [10:29] Anyways i don't recommand installing vista ^_^ [10:29] i have tried vista and don't really see any benefits compared to xp [10:29] regarding the ms os i think im gonna go right for win7 instead [10:29] vista lol [10:29] I saw my entire system broken due to lack of drivers (after SP1, with the nvidia drivers, still in 640x480) [10:30] I saw the slowness, too. [10:30] still need a winOS ti play teh games :P [10:30] I'm done with windows, here :) no more proprietary OSes. I'll relay on XP and wine [10:30] to* [10:30] seriously. forget vista. its made of fail [10:30] yeah? what games do you play through wine? [10:30] None atm :D [10:30] haha [10:31] not like you could play games with wine xD [10:31] i played The witcher, sup com, BG2, nwn, nwn2, diablo 2, war 3 [10:31] i'll play L2 as soon as i'll have a true internet connection [10:31] and i also play et:qw natively [10:31] how well does wine work? i have heard some negative stuff about ut [10:31] * SiDi waits for Wolfenstein 2009 Linux client ! [10:31] yay [10:31] It works pretty fine, but most games require some tricks, because they need the latest directx / visual c++ [10:32] There are three kinds of apps [10:32] those that dont launch due to required files/functions [10:32] those that lag/have 1 or 2 missing features (majority) [10:32] and those that work just fine [10:32] aha [10:32] Games are mostly in the second category :p [10:32] Office apps mostly in the third [10:32] got any experience with cs through wine? [10:32] I don't play any steam game [10:33] I _hate_ steam [10:33] i have no particular love for valve either [10:33] I've been really really pissed of paying for HL2 silver [10:33] but i must admit i enjoy playin cs1.6 :p [10:33] I had a 30 char account [10:33] it got somehow hacked [10:33] really? how odd [10:34] i sent them the bill + a copy of my identity card, asked for my account, never got even an answer [10:34] any idea how it happend? [10:34] The day their platform will be safe and their support will answer i'll consider giving them money again [10:34] obviously no. I wasnt using my account online [10:34] One day i wanted to log and play HL2, wrong password. Asked a password reminder, never went to my mailbox [10:34] not hard to understand :> [10:34] valve is always gonna be about hte profit [10:35] sometimes customer service and profit do not go hand in hand unfortuneatley [10:35] Anyways i buy only native linux games without securom now :D [10:35] (excuse my spelling) [10:35] For the other games, i just steal my father/brother's games and ps3 [10:35] (your spelling is ok ;p) [10:35] securerom is the weird copyright that mess upp the dvd-drive, yes? [10:36] Its the CD protection that prevents you to play almost every time, yes. [10:36] i have heard that it mess up the dvd drive to the extent that you cannot even burn discs at high speeds [10:37] anymore [10:38] sidi have you tried the x-ubuntu 9.04 yet? [10:39] I'm under it :) [10:39] nice! [10:39] Its the only OS on my PC ^^ [10:39] * SiDi admits he also has OpenSolaris and Ubuntu server for testing purposes :| [10:39] how does it work? is it buggy? [10:39] hehe, ok [10:39] It works fine of course. [10:39] do you use the new ext4? [10:39] No [10:39] my system partition was already in ext3 [10:40] ah ok [10:40] couldn't bother to reinstall, so i just upgraded [10:40] ah i see [10:40] but i tested jaunty under ext4 [10:40] even faster :) [10:40] had 8 version befoce? [10:40] ah, cool [10:40] im not quite sure if ium gonna go for ext4 or ext3 [10:40] (but be careful, if you use ext4 and then if you install, lets say mandriva, their grub wont be able to boot the ext4 partition, so install jaunty in latest so you'll have a grub that can boot ext4) [10:40] go for ext3 [10:41] compared to windows it'll already be fast enough ;) [10:41] prolly should wait til installing it on ext4 or what do you think? [10:41] hehe ok [10:41] and if theres a bug that wasnt found in ext4, you wont have it [10:41] true [10:43] sidi do you use propriatary drivers for graphics card? [10:44] Yeh [10:44] Nvidia cards :) on all the PCs [10:45] ah allright, i have a counter strike server (ubuntu 8) with custom kernel. Tried the propratary drivers there but got into problems [10:45] probably cause of the custom kernel [10:45] Yeh :P [10:45] but vesa driver work satisfactory for server use still [10:46] If its a server, drop X :) [10:46] more performances then [10:46] hehe, im not that good yet :) [10:46] Well, if you dont wanna bother with the setup in console mode [10:47] just now that it works, launch the server from the shell, and shutdown gdm [10:47] and you wont have Xorg + gdm + gnome stuff running in background when your server runs [10:47] problem is that if i run the server from through ssh it will only be up as long as i have that session running [10:48] if i disconnect the server stops [10:50] hey all [10:52] gonna install now! catch u later [10:55] I'm trying to do a livecd of xubuntu on an older laptop...I'm getting a 'Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0' [10:55] how can I disable the floppy drive? I don't have a floppy drive in the laptop that I am testing xubuntu on [10:57] hm [10:58] * SiDi searches [10:59] mylisto: go to your BIOS [11:00] sidi: tried that... [11:00] I finally got passed it by using [11:00] all_generic_ide floppy=off irqpoll [11:00] at boot.. [11:00] now I am getting some squashfs errors [11:02] you should have an option there to disable the floppy drive [11:03] its between your kernel and your motherboard. I think you should try #ubuntu, there'll be more people who can help than here [11:14] Hi [11:20] hi [11:35] I just installed Xubuntu and I am very impressed :) [11:35] I don't like totem very much though, so I removed it and wanted to install vlc [11:37] but here I see it installs 40 packages, 82.8MB... which makes me doubt... will my system performances be effected after having installed vlc or is it just a matter of disk usage? (ie. will there be additional background processes?) [11:38] affected* [11:38] hm its disk usagz ;) [11:38] vlc is a Qt app so it requires some Qt dependencies [11:39] Ok, I understand. [11:39] Also, I heard it is preferable to install vlc-plugin-pulse [11:40] No [11:40] No pulse for xubuntu :) [11:40] We use ALSA [11:40] ah great [11:40] that's what I wanted to hear :) [11:40] :d [11:40] I uninstalled pulse in hardy [11:40] (on gnome) [11:40] thanks for your help [11:41] hello! [11:42] im on 9.04 ubuntu now [11:45] congratulations and welcome aboard kerio :) [11:45] thx :) [11:46] im having some problems connecting my ntfs partions [11:46] i can see them through gigolo [11:46] but i cant open them [11:46] is there any prog to emulate cds like deamon tools? [11:46] kromar, you can mount an iso with a -loop option.. let me fetch the command... [11:46] G_IO_error _FAILED_HANDLED_INTHEUI [11:47] you might wanna run a chkdsk /f under windows and reboot 2 times and see if that fixes the problem [11:47] kromar1 talking to me? :) [11:48] kerio: yes, that fixed the problem for me [11:48] actually kromar1 you can use an app called gmount-iso or use the command line to mount the iso in a folder [11:48] sudo mount -o your.iso /cdrom [11:49] ok thx, gonna google on it and then give it a try [11:49] np [11:50] -t iso9660 -o loop actually [11:50] sudo mount -o loop your.iso /cdrom [11:50] hehe [11:50] I just saw it [11:50] oh ok [11:50] ;) [11:50] yes, I remember that -t option too now :) [11:50] if it doesnt mount it means your file isnt a real iso [11:50] but a mdf or some crappy format like that [11:51] yes, I remember mounting a hfsplus iso once [11:51] -t hfsplus [11:51] gave me a headache that one [11:52] those formats should be banned :D [11:54] hey again [11:54] weird thing [11:54] grub have an entry for the xp os [11:55] but cant boot from it [11:55] i think it is because i have 2 boot sectors [11:55] maybe it "guessed" wrong [11:55] i had to change the boot priority to another disk [11:55] then the windows bootmgr started [11:55] and then i could boot successfully [11:56] if i have a bootsector written on one disk [11:56] then write another on a different disk [11:56] will grub then assume the the xp os is on the wrong disk pherphaps? [11:56] any suggestions? [12:58] how do i get xubuntu to recognise the volume buttons on my laptop from startup? [12:59] satansaunt, I am working on the same problem for my thinkpad r61 [12:59] just found this http://www.nowhere.dk/articles/lenovo_thinkpad_t61_xfce_and_volume_keys [13:00] I guess it will work for other laptops too [13:00] might need some figuring out for the signals though [13:00] i'm using a t61 [13:00] hopefully this should work [13:04] satansaunt: go to the keyboard shortcut window [13:04] and add a shortcut for, lets say, your key "Volume up" [13:04] and as a command, put "aumix -v +10" [13:04] and tell me if it works, please [13:04] amixer sset Master 5%+ [13:04] and amixer sset Master 5%- [13:04] for mute: amixer sset Master toggle [13:05] this works [13:05] pep: thanks yours are better :) [13:05] in settings - keyboard - application shortcuts [13:06] i can't tell whether or not it works, i'll find out when i reboot [13:06] thanks for your help guys [13:06] actually it works straight away [13:06] no need to reboot satansaunt [13:06] as soon as you close the keyboard shortcut window [13:08] amusing that I was just trying to get this working at the same time... [13:08] if you have a thinkpad you might be interested by a way of activating middle click scrolling with the trackpoint [13:09] http://psung.blogspot.com/2008/09/scrolling-with-thinkpads-trackpoint-in.html I just did this [13:09] going to reboot [13:09] I guess restarting hal or gdm would work actually [13:11] i wouldn't be able to tel whether or not it works straight away at the mo- i'd already solved the problem, for this session [13:11] but the next time i reboot that's when i'll find out whether or not it has saved the settings or not [13:14] hey [13:14] I can confirm the tutorial for vertical and horizontal scrolling works [13:14] I had to reboot though, gdm didn't want to restart properly [13:23] i'm having a blonde moment over here... [13:23] i need to edit some info irssi [13:23] but i can't remember where [13:23] haven't used it for a while [13:25] maybe /.irssi/config ? [13:25] lol at me [13:28] I just realized thunar does not handle ftp [13:28] I was quite used to nautilus for that, will have to look for an ftp client [14:42] hi [14:42] any one there? [14:43] no [14:43] we're all sleepng [14:43] lol [14:43] What's up ? [14:44] i've got a question [14:44] hi. I'm trying to get the sound working. I've increased all the volumes to max. The sound works on my head phones but not on my laptop speakers. [14:44] Okay :) first, are you using only xubuntu or also kubuntu/ubuntu ? [14:44] What does "ps aux | grep pulse" return, please ? [14:44] And also, what laptop model do you have ? [14:44] only Xubuntu [14:45] I also might need the output of : cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec [14:45] and lspci | grep -i audio [14:45] ali 5162 0.0 0.1 3340 804 pts/1 S+ 14:45 0:00 grep pulse [14:46] and, i also need to know if you're under Jaunty or Intrepid/Hardy :) [14:46] sony vaio B1VP (its 4 years old) [14:46] jaunty [14:47] I need the output of : "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec" and "lspci | grep -i audio" (copy paste them in a terminal, and please put the output at paste.ubuntu.com) [14:50] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec\#* | grep Codec: no such file or directory [14:50] i'll copy and paste this time [14:50] oh, surprising [14:50] still same [14:50] ok, do the other command then [14:51] ok [14:51] maybe it'll be enough to find what audio chipset you have [14:51] (there are ~6 different chipsets for vaio laptops, and they require different alsa settings, we're trying to find the most appropriate one) [14:51] 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) [14:52] ok. thanks [14:52] now there are 7 :d [14:53] why do I have paste in paste.ubuntu.com? [14:53] ok, do ls /proc/asound/ [14:53] and if you have something named card0 appearing [14:53] do ls /proc/asound/card0 [14:54] I get the following o/p:codec97#0 id intel8x0 oss_mixer pcm0c pcm0p pcm1c pcm2c pcm3c pcm4p [14:55] ok then, cat /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0 [14:56] cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0: Is a directory [14:56] use ls instead of cat then please [14:56] and then tell me which files are inside [14:57] ac97#0-0 ac97#0-0+regs [14:58] alright, you'll cat this ac97 file [14:58] the info we need should be there [15:00] how do I cat the file? [15:00] cat /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0 [15:00]