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billisnicemy firefox will not open on my ubuntu puter?  9.0402:37
ScottKbillisnice: #ubuntu is the channel for support.02:38
duncanHi.  I've got a question about developing a .deb for Ubuntu that creates a file association in Gnome and KDE.  Is this the right place?05:20
duncan(That is, a .deb to run on Ubuntu - not part of Ubuntu itself)05:20
ScottKduncan: Basic packaging questions (which it sounds like that is) are better asked on #ubuntu-motu05:23
duncanThanks :-)05:24
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billisnicemy screen resolution does not stay, it switch when i reboot and is so small i barely can see it.09:59
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* zhxk finds a messy code that appears on bum, and want's to know where does the discription to the items comfrom:http://imagebin.ca/view/BLL1WLF.html11:13
zhxk#ubuntu-dev11:40
cjwatsonkirkland`: the client uses the private key to sign a message proving that it has the public key - it doesn't give the private key to the server (and it would be a serious security breach if it did), so pam modules invoked from /etc/pam.d/ssh have no access to it. To make that work I think you'd need to get into ssh protocol extensions, as you'd need to arrange to send the wrapped passphrase back to the client for unwrapping12:16
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DRAGGERHello , how i do install application using direct link for e.g. "http://argouml-downloads.tigris.org/nonav/argouml-0.28/ArgoUML-0.28-src.tar.gz"13:56
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steveirecjwatson: ping? Is there anything else I can do about bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/36628214:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 366282 in parted "Install partitioner does not detect existing partition table" [Undecided,Incomplete]14:03
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kirkland`cjwatson: gotcha, that makes sense.  i should have known that.16:19
kirkland`pitti: Bug 359997, i don't understand your comment16:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 359997 in ecryptfs "Improve record-your-passphrase dialog" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/35999716:50
kirkland`"Does your commit fix that path issue as well?"16:50
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kirklandpitti: bug updated16:52
james_wkirkland: that's not pitti is it?16:54
kirklandjames_w: oh, good call :-)16:55
kirklandpitti: sorry for the spam :-)16:55
LaserJockhmm, would an annoying UI bug that was introduced via an Ubuntu patch seem like an SRU candidate?16:57
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ion_Ooo, unattended-upgrades uses apt-listchanges in jaunty. It was so minor an annoyance i never got around to reporting it not executing apt-listchanges, but i’m happy now that it does.19:44
mbanawill anything break if i install notification-daemon19:45
mbanai want the old one19:45
ion_Ah, someone else had reported it. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50763919:47
ubottuDebian bug 507639 in unattended-upgrades "unattended-upgrades: apt-listchanges not triggered" [Important,Closed]19:47
mbanashall i just remove notify-osd?19:49
ion_The overall look of the distribution is also likely to be refreshed. "Brown has served us well but the Koala is considering other options," Shuttleworth noted.21:39
ion_Oh noes. Brown is good.21:39
macolots of people seem to take issue with earth tones though...not quite sure why21:40
hyperairi don't like brown21:44
jdongugh it's artwork. Can't we focus on making things work instead? or is that a lost cause?21:44
mdkestuff doesn't work?21:44
hyperairto put it bluntly, when i first used ubuntu (6.06) i thought the interface looked like shit, and changing the theme was one of the first things i did21:44
jdongmdke: there's always room for improvement.21:45
mdkejdong: I think there are a few bugs still outstanding21:45
jdongbootup speed, X flickering, intel/X stability is a major nightmare for me, IO interactivity particularly with Firefox....21:45
jdongnow don't get me wrong I love my Ubuntu machines and am satisfied with them, not trying to troll here21:45
jdongbut there's certainly always room for improvement21:45
jdongthe artwork has never tended to be a thing that's bothered me. the theme's appearance and usability is fine to me21:45
hyperairflickering i don't see21:46
hyperairbut i seriously lost it earlier when i got three hard locks in two hours21:46
jdonghyperair: it takes about 2 seconds to flip from X to a VT.21:46
hyperair2 seconds huh21:46
jdongwhich has to be done on suspend and resume.21:46
hyperairi don't switch to VTs much heh21:46
hyperairoh!21:46
hyperairhmm21:46
hyperairbig problem.21:46
hyperairi don't suppose KMS can help this?21:46
jdongcompare that to my macbook running OS X which resumes in 150ms from lid-up to ping response.21:46
jdongI think KMS is supposed to help21:47
jdongbut I don't think it'll be on the order of 150ms resume.21:47
jdongand when you use a laptop on-the-go occasionally, suspend-resume speed is a big deal21:47
hyperair150ms..21:47
hyperairthat is crazy.21:47
hyperairhow do you measure 150ms?21:47
jdonghyperair: the unlock screen is waiting before I can pull the lid up.21:47
hyperair..shit21:47
jdonghyperair: 10ms ping polling from another system21:48
jdongover *WIFI*21:48
hyperairO_O21:48
jdonghow much of that 150ms is re-establishing wifi? :)21:48
jdongI'm convinced the network links up before the CCFL backlight can engage.21:48
jdongI've heard the LED macbooks resume even faster.21:48
Chipzzjdong: my macbook also resumes that fast; but I don't think it's suspended when you close the lid21:48
Chipzzjust sleep or sth21:48
Chipzz(dunnow the accurate terms)21:49
jdongChipzz: it's put into S3+S4 hybrid.21:49
jdongChipzz: that is, it writes out a hibernate to disk image AND then goes into RAM sleep21:49
jdongChipzz: that way if battery runs out it can resume from disk, if battery remains it will wake like normal standby21:49
Chipzzwhat I *do* like is that if your battery runs out while the lid is closed, it automatically hibernates21:49
Chipzzhrrrm ah k21:50
jdongthe suspend part takes about 10 seconds to write out the encrypted RAM image.21:50
jdongthe resume part is instant if you don't lose battery power21:50
Chipzzyeah21:50
Chipzzone of the things I like about osx :)21:50
jdongyou can use a pmset command to turn off the hibernate image so suspend is instant too21:50
Chipzz(or is that not os specific?)21:50
jdongChipzz: Windows Vista does the hybrid sleep thing too21:51
jdongand there is support in Linux too via the s2both command but I've never gotten it working21:51
jdongnamely it takes well over 30 seconds to write something out, but neither resume from RAM nor resume from disk worked in Intrepid.21:51
Chipzznot running linux on mine though21:52
Chipzz(</blush>)21:53
jdongI dual on my macbook but to be honest most of the time on the go it runs OS X.21:53
jdongapart from the suspend-resume thing, our entire campus is Cisco 24-channel MIMO 802.11N connected21:53
jdongand OS X can easily pull 13MB/s up and down21:54
jdongUbuntu kernel panics when ath9k tries to connect to 5.8GHz N21:54
jdongseems to be a known ath9k upstream bug21:54
Chipzzrecent model?21:55
jdongno, this is older, the first core2duo generation black plastic.21:55
jdongthe newer ones use broadcom cards which ironically work better if you use go-to-RMS-hell drivers21:55
Chipzzhrrrm21:55
jdongand are apparently a lot less expensive too21:55
jdongI've been considering shelling out the 20 bucks to swap in one of those21:56
Chipzzdidn't know 802.11N did go that far back21:56
jdongthe atheros A+G chipset that was in those macbooks could be firmware-upgraded to N21:56
jdongyay software defined radios!21:56
Chipzzsee, firmware is not evil! *grin* :)21:56
jdonglol21:57
jdongas long as it's redistributable IMO I don't see the difference between it being loaded on by the OS or by the OEM in factory. It's still a blob we can't change.21:57
Chipzzwell, I wouldn't call a free upgrade to N evil anyway :P21:57
Chipzzanyway, afk again :)21:59
macohyperair: i thought feisty's wallpaper looked like chocolate milk. one of my cousins called it mousse and wanted to get a spoon to try to eat her screen22:01
hyperairlol22:02
hyperairthat's hilarious22:02
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