billisnice | my firefox will not open on my ubuntu puter? 9.04 | 02:37 |
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ScottK | billisnice: #ubuntu is the channel for support. | 02:38 |
duncan | Hi. I've got a question about developing a .deb for Ubuntu that creates a file association in Gnome and KDE. Is this the right place? | 05:20 |
duncan | (That is, a .deb to run on Ubuntu - not part of Ubuntu itself) | 05:20 |
ScottK | duncan: Basic packaging questions (which it sounds like that is) are better asked on #ubuntu-motu | 05:23 |
duncan | Thanks :-) | 05:24 |
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billisnice | my screen resolution does not stay, it switch when i reboot and is so small i barely can see it. | 09:59 |
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* zhxk finds a messy code that appears on bum, and want's to know where does the discription to the items comfrom:http://imagebin.ca/view/BLL1WLF.html | 11:13 | |
zhxk | #ubuntu-dev | 11:40 |
cjwatson | kirkland`: the client uses the private key to sign a message proving that it has the public key - it doesn't give the private key to the server (and it would be a serious security breach if it did), so pam modules invoked from /etc/pam.d/ssh have no access to it. To make that work I think you'd need to get into ssh protocol extensions, as you'd need to arrange to send the wrapped passphrase back to the client for unwrapping | 12:16 |
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DRAGGER | Hello , how i do install application using direct link for e.g. "http://argouml-downloads.tigris.org/nonav/argouml-0.28/ArgoUML-0.28-src.tar.gz" | 13:56 |
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steveire | cjwatson: ping? Is there anything else I can do about bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/366282 | 14:03 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 366282 in parted "Install partitioner does not detect existing partition table" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 14:03 |
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kirkland` | cjwatson: gotcha, that makes sense. i should have known that. | 16:19 |
kirkland` | pitti: Bug 359997, i don't understand your comment | 16:50 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 359997 in ecryptfs "Improve record-your-passphrase dialog" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359997 | 16:50 |
kirkland` | "Does your commit fix that path issue as well?" | 16:50 |
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kirkland | pitti: bug updated | 16:52 |
james_w | kirkland: that's not pitti is it? | 16:54 |
kirkland | james_w: oh, good call :-) | 16:55 |
kirkland | pitti: sorry for the spam :-) | 16:55 |
LaserJock | hmm, would an annoying UI bug that was introduced via an Ubuntu patch seem like an SRU candidate? | 16:57 |
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ion_ | Ooo, unattended-upgrades uses apt-listchanges in jaunty. It was so minor an annoyance i never got around to reporting it not executing apt-listchanges, but i’m happy now that it does. | 19:44 |
mbana | will anything break if i install notification-daemon | 19:45 |
mbana | i want the old one | 19:45 |
ion_ | Ah, someone else had reported it. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=507639 | 19:47 |
ubottu | Debian bug 507639 in unattended-upgrades "unattended-upgrades: apt-listchanges not triggered" [Important,Closed] | 19:47 |
mbana | shall i just remove notify-osd? | 19:49 |
ion_ | The overall look of the distribution is also likely to be refreshed. "Brown has served us well but the Koala is considering other options," Shuttleworth noted. | 21:39 |
ion_ | Oh noes. Brown is good. | 21:39 |
maco | lots of people seem to take issue with earth tones though...not quite sure why | 21:40 |
hyperair | i don't like brown | 21:44 |
jdong | ugh it's artwork. Can't we focus on making things work instead? or is that a lost cause? | 21:44 |
mdke | stuff doesn't work? | 21:44 |
hyperair | to put it bluntly, when i first used ubuntu (6.06) i thought the interface looked like shit, and changing the theme was one of the first things i did | 21:44 |
jdong | mdke: there's always room for improvement. | 21:45 |
mdke | jdong: I think there are a few bugs still outstanding | 21:45 |
jdong | bootup speed, X flickering, intel/X stability is a major nightmare for me, IO interactivity particularly with Firefox.... | 21:45 |
jdong | now don't get me wrong I love my Ubuntu machines and am satisfied with them, not trying to troll here | 21:45 |
jdong | but there's certainly always room for improvement | 21:45 |
jdong | the artwork has never tended to be a thing that's bothered me. the theme's appearance and usability is fine to me | 21:45 |
hyperair | flickering i don't see | 21:46 |
hyperair | but i seriously lost it earlier when i got three hard locks in two hours | 21:46 |
jdong | hyperair: it takes about 2 seconds to flip from X to a VT. | 21:46 |
hyperair | 2 seconds huh | 21:46 |
jdong | which has to be done on suspend and resume. | 21:46 |
hyperair | i don't switch to VTs much heh | 21:46 |
hyperair | oh! | 21:46 |
hyperair | hmm | 21:46 |
hyperair | big problem. | 21:46 |
hyperair | i don't suppose KMS can help this? | 21:46 |
jdong | compare that to my macbook running OS X which resumes in 150ms from lid-up to ping response. | 21:46 |
jdong | I think KMS is supposed to help | 21:47 |
jdong | but I don't think it'll be on the order of 150ms resume. | 21:47 |
jdong | and when you use a laptop on-the-go occasionally, suspend-resume speed is a big deal | 21:47 |
hyperair | 150ms.. | 21:47 |
hyperair | that is crazy. | 21:47 |
hyperair | how do you measure 150ms? | 21:47 |
jdong | hyperair: the unlock screen is waiting before I can pull the lid up. | 21:47 |
hyperair | ..shit | 21:47 |
jdong | hyperair: 10ms ping polling from another system | 21:48 |
jdong | over *WIFI* | 21:48 |
hyperair | O_O | 21:48 |
jdong | how much of that 150ms is re-establishing wifi? :) | 21:48 |
jdong | I'm convinced the network links up before the CCFL backlight can engage. | 21:48 |
jdong | I've heard the LED macbooks resume even faster. | 21:48 |
Chipzz | jdong: my macbook also resumes that fast; but I don't think it's suspended when you close the lid | 21:48 |
Chipzz | just sleep or sth | 21:48 |
Chipzz | (dunnow the accurate terms) | 21:49 |
jdong | Chipzz: it's put into S3+S4 hybrid. | 21:49 |
jdong | Chipzz: that is, it writes out a hibernate to disk image AND then goes into RAM sleep | 21:49 |
jdong | Chipzz: that way if battery runs out it can resume from disk, if battery remains it will wake like normal standby | 21:49 |
Chipzz | what I *do* like is that if your battery runs out while the lid is closed, it automatically hibernates | 21:49 |
Chipzz | hrrrm ah k | 21:50 |
jdong | the suspend part takes about 10 seconds to write out the encrypted RAM image. | 21:50 |
jdong | the resume part is instant if you don't lose battery power | 21:50 |
Chipzz | yeah | 21:50 |
Chipzz | one of the things I like about osx :) | 21:50 |
jdong | you can use a pmset command to turn off the hibernate image so suspend is instant too | 21:50 |
Chipzz | (or is that not os specific?) | 21:50 |
jdong | Chipzz: Windows Vista does the hybrid sleep thing too | 21:51 |
jdong | and there is support in Linux too via the s2both command but I've never gotten it working | 21:51 |
jdong | namely it takes well over 30 seconds to write something out, but neither resume from RAM nor resume from disk worked in Intrepid. | 21:51 |
Chipzz | not running linux on mine though | 21:52 |
Chipzz | (</blush>) | 21:53 |
jdong | I dual on my macbook but to be honest most of the time on the go it runs OS X. | 21:53 |
jdong | apart from the suspend-resume thing, our entire campus is Cisco 24-channel MIMO 802.11N connected | 21:53 |
jdong | and OS X can easily pull 13MB/s up and down | 21:54 |
jdong | Ubuntu kernel panics when ath9k tries to connect to 5.8GHz N | 21:54 |
jdong | seems to be a known ath9k upstream bug | 21:54 |
Chipzz | recent model? | 21:55 |
jdong | no, this is older, the first core2duo generation black plastic. | 21:55 |
jdong | the newer ones use broadcom cards which ironically work better if you use go-to-RMS-hell drivers | 21:55 |
Chipzz | hrrrm | 21:55 |
jdong | and are apparently a lot less expensive too | 21:55 |
jdong | I've been considering shelling out the 20 bucks to swap in one of those | 21:56 |
Chipzz | didn't know 802.11N did go that far back | 21:56 |
jdong | the atheros A+G chipset that was in those macbooks could be firmware-upgraded to N | 21:56 |
jdong | yay software defined radios! | 21:56 |
Chipzz | see, firmware is not evil! *grin* :) | 21:56 |
jdong | lol | 21:57 |
jdong | as long as it's redistributable IMO I don't see the difference between it being loaded on by the OS or by the OEM in factory. It's still a blob we can't change. | 21:57 |
Chipzz | well, I wouldn't call a free upgrade to N evil anyway :P | 21:57 |
Chipzz | anyway, afk again :) | 21:59 |
maco | hyperair: i thought feisty's wallpaper looked like chocolate milk. one of my cousins called it mousse and wanted to get a spoon to try to eat her screen | 22:01 |
hyperair | lol | 22:02 |
hyperair | that's hilarious | 22:02 |
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