[00:57] <mac9416> OK, I got my TV wonder 200 recognised by MythTV, but I still can't watch TV. I click "Watch TV" and the screen just blinks. Someone mentioned associating a data source?
[01:43] <test0r> hi there, i'm trying to get my pinnacle pctv hd usb 452e working under mythbuntu, but i can't find instructions
[01:43] <test0r> there's only one entry in the doc on wiki that says something about some patches
[01:44] <test0r> so my question, did anybody got this card working?
[05:04] <user1> I have a 1TB drive and 1 gig of RAM,, looking for suggestions of partitioning and filesystems.  Thanks!!
[05:45] <user1> during the mytvset up I'm getting a black screen with a white outline of a box, it seems to have frozen
[05:45] <user1> 1 minute so far
[05:46] <user1> ver 9, 64 bit, open soure video driver
[05:53] <user1> that is mythbuntu ver 9,, on a amd 64 bit,, selected the open source video driver, firefox opened fine, then mythtv setup crashed
[05:53] <user1> if I alt+tab, I see a scree
[05:53] <user1> screen
[05:54] <user1> X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8
[05:54] <user1> Major opcodes 62
[05:54] <user1> minion 0
[05:54] <user1> resource id
[05:54] <user1> 0xc00009
[05:54] <user1> going to Ctrl+C
[06:20] <user1> I can return to the installer, (screen with link to firefox and setup)
[06:20] <user1> I don't know if I should continue at this point, I turned off the computer and will await advice
[06:54] <user1> during the mytvset up I'm getting a black screen with a white outline of a box, it seems to have frozen
[08:21] <user1> tried a new installation with open source drivers
[08:21] <user1> boots up to garbled screen
[08:22] <user1> I have to say that I'm not that impressed with the ease of use of mythbuntu so far
[08:23] <user1> if I can help contribute to the project in anyway, I don't mind
[09:46] <walker> hello
[09:47] <walker> anyone tried the 9.04 mythtbuntu with diskless clients?
[09:49] <oobe> user1, you dont need to reinstall to change your video drivers what is your video card and are you using an lcd monitor crt or lcd tv or plasma tv those things are more important than the things you already mentioned
[09:49] <oobe> walker no  i havent
[09:49] <oobe> im thinking about it though
[09:50] <oobe> the guide is a bit outdated its for hardy and some of the links dont work
[09:50] <walker> Well, i had problems installing stuff into the client from the control center (on the server)... so i installed most stuff in the console... seems to work out... but is there no mythbuntu-frontend anymore?
[09:51] <oobe> on the client
[09:51] <oobe> i cant really help sorry
[09:51] <walker> yes? i can't find the executeable...
[09:52] <walker> no, i'ts ok... just thought maybe someone knew something ;)
[09:52] <oobe> perhaps the image on the server needs to have the /usr/bin/mythfrontend
[09:52] <oobe> what you said is so true console always works
[09:52] <walker> well, mythfrontend is there...
[09:53] <oobe> but most ubuntu documentation tends to lead people to gui apps
[09:53] <oobe> so can the client boot ok and run mythfrontend
[09:53] <walker> well, i guess it's okay for most people :) but guess we are some oldies who like the console :P
[09:54] <walker> it boots, but it won't connect to mysql server :(
[09:54] <user1> I'm using a lcd,, let me check
[09:54] <walker> maybe they removed the mythbuntu-frontend-wrapper ;)
[09:55] <walker> anyway, i'm running server on a virtual Xen machine :P works pretty nice
[09:55] <oobe> nice
[09:55] <oobe> have you seen this
[09:55] <oobe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Hardy/Diskless
[09:56] <walker> just if anyone should be courious ;)
[09:56] <oobe> * If you installed new packages, you have to update the compressed file system:
[09:56] <oobe>     * $ sudo ltsp-update-image
[09:56] <user1> it's just a normal LCD screen,
[09:57] <user1> I'm going to have to configure that x11/xorg file ?
[09:57] <walker> sure :)
[09:58] <oobe> user1, yes and most likely install the right drivers for you video card which you have neglected to mention what type it is
[09:58] <user1> I don't know what it is
[09:58] <user1> how can I tell
[09:58] <user1> it's a generic lcd from compusa
[09:59] <oobe> user1 this will tell you lspci -v | grep VGA
[10:00] <user1>  sorry I'm a bit of a newb, how can I get to a console? I boot up to a grabled screen
[10:00] <user1> ctrl+backspace?
[10:01] <user1> I'm booting it now
[10:01] <oobe> ctl + alt + f2
[10:01] <user1> thanks
[10:01] <oobe> thats ok
[10:01] <oobe> i will help you as much as i can
[10:02] <user1> it seems frozen after it booted, I just see a purplish mythbuntu
[10:02] <user1> crrl+alt+f2 don't seem to do anything
[10:03] <user1> let me try a ps2 keyboard..
[10:04] <oobe> try rebooting it again
[10:05] <user1> just rebooted with a different keyboard, seems to be the same
[10:05] <user1> it seems pretty quick to boot
[10:05] <oobe> or booting it in recovery  mode or whatever its called
[10:06] <oobe> well hope you can get on ok this time
[10:07] <oobe> if you cant just boot the livecd and open a console from the desktop and type lspci -v | grep VGA
[10:08] <oobe> if the desktop wont load then press ctl + alt + f1 or f2
[10:08] <oobe> and do it from there
[10:08] <walker> hey, i actually got it running :P
[10:08] <user1> I think I'll have to do that
[10:09] <oobe> walker, nice how
[10:11] <walker> well, i made the error myself... i accedently did something resulting in placing a empty mysql.txt file in the overlay...
[10:12] <oobe> oh ok
[10:13] <oobe> im interested in diskless servers but my remote fe is already setup and it doesnt make much noise
[10:13] <user1> The graphics card is on the motherboard,
[10:13] <user1> But the lspci did return something
[10:13] <oobe> can you add as many apps as you want to your image on the server side?
[10:14] <oobe> and does it save changes or simply restore
[10:14] <oobe> user1, this is an example of what i want you to show me "02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev a1)"
[10:15] <user1> ah
[10:15] <user1> thanks
[10:15] <user1> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[10:15] <walker> having trouble detecting vga adapter?
[10:16] <walker> oh my
[10:16] <user1> on the trial mode (booting off DVD) it works
[10:16] <walker> need ati driver
[10:16] <oobe> user1, ok im guessing if you cant boot into your fresh install you may be better off reinstalling then searching for guides on install ati drivers
[10:17] <oobe> there is a handy applicatation that will automate the process of installing ati and nvidia drivers
[10:17] <oobe> which i use myself
[10:17] <walker> is it still called fglrx ?
[10:17] <oobe> envy
[10:17] <oobe> its now called envyng
[10:18] <oobe> sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk once you have reinstalled
[10:18] <oobe> then let it walk you thru the setup
[10:18] <walker> okay :) how's the performance an compatibility on ati's these days?
[10:18] <oobe> walker, im an nvidia man
[10:18] <oobe> most people are if they have a choice
[10:19] <oobe> but envy does support ati aswell
[10:19] <walker> me 2 ;) especialy after running LinuxMCE for a while
[10:19] <oobe> and i trust it and it
[10:19] <oobe> use it
[10:19] <user1> is it a poor monitor or graphics card?
[10:20] <user1> my other question is, when would I be able to do the apt-get? I'd have to do it before rebooting possibly
[10:20] <walker> well, i don't think it's poor in general, but my experience is that nvidia is better supported...
[10:21] <oobe> user1, if you can boot into console on your current install the you can do it from there
[10:21] <oobe> if you are doing a fresh install then you will be doing it on first boot
[10:21] <Technophil1> Do you mind if I ask, I am not sure about having multiple frontends with different video cards, can they boot diskless and will they need separate images as they have different video cards?
[10:22] <oobe> user1, what walker said is true ati and nvidia are both the top cards for grapics but nvidia supports linux better
[10:22] <user1> unfortuantly I think I'm going to have to reinstall
[10:22] <walker> Technophil1: you can have multiple FE's with differing video cards. no problem
[10:23] <oobe> ok user1 do that then and message me when your done
[10:23] <walker> Technophil1: You can install the drivers on the diskless image and then have a differing xorg.conf in the overlay.
[10:23] <oobe> make sure you put my nick in the sentence as it alerts me
[10:23] <Technophil1> So there is an image and an overlay for each frontend?
[10:24] <user1> oobe: I have a 1TB drive with 1gig of ram, I was going to do: 2gig swap, 250 / ext4, 250 /home ext4, 250 /videos XFS
[10:25] <walker> no, theres one general image in /opt/ltsp and an overlay for each FE in /var/cache/mythbuntu-diskless/
[10:26] <Technophil1> So one manually edits the overlay files - or possibly alternatively does it from the frontend?
[10:27] <walker> Technophil1: exactly ;)
[10:28] <Technophil1> I'll give it a whirl when I get to that bit, thank you Walker, I am much obliged to you.
[10:28] <user1> should I do the "Open Source Driver" or "AMD Graphics" ?
[10:28] <walker> Technophil1: no problem ;)
[10:29] <oobe> user1, make / only 30GB you wont need more than that if you want a /home then put a little more than 30GB but you wont need it for a dedicate myth then use all the rest for video
[10:30] <oobe> just my suggestion
[10:30] <user1> thanks
[10:30] <oobe> so that way you will have space for lots of recordings which often take up a lot of room
[10:31] <oobe> user1, if you still on that page try the open source one
[10:31] <user1> a terabyte is pretty insane in itself
[10:32] <oobe> these are my partitions
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda5              20G  6.3G   12G  35% /
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda6              28G   12G   15G  46% /home
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda1              18G  8.9G  9.0G  50% /mnt/xp
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sdb1             932G  861G   71G  93% /data
[10:32] <oobe> /dev/sda8             166G  160G  6.0G  97% /mnt/mythtv
[10:32] <walker> i think i have 2 TB on one of my setups
[10:32] <oobe> i think it speaks for itself
[10:32] <oobe> /mnt/mythtv is for my recordings and /data is a 1TB just for mostly downloaded videos
[10:33] <oobe> like for archiving i watch them in mythvideo
[10:33] <user1> I think it crashed.. I didn't reboot, clicked the install icon, didn't reformat, and now I can't move the mouse
[10:33] <user1> the hard drive is not spinning either..
[10:33] <user1> I'll reboot..
[10:33] <oobe> where abouts were you in setup
[10:34] <oobe> i guess if you rebooting try the AMD graphics
[10:34] <user1> I had just entered the data about partitioning, username, timezone,
[10:34] <user1> I did try the amd before, with the same results
[10:34] <oobe> and it formated your disks
[10:35] <oobe> or froze when trying to format
[10:35] <user1> this is the first time I elected to not format
[10:35] <oobe> hmm ok ignore what i said about selecting amd drivers
[10:35] <oobe> just do it all the same again and see what happens
[10:36] <user1> thanks for your help
[10:36] <oobe> make sure you select basic install i havent used mythbuntu installer since 8.04 but  i think there are 2 options one is advanced and the other is basic
[10:37] <oobe> the advanced one will try to map your network and ask a tonne of unecessary questions
[10:38] <oobe> also the alternate installer is much more stable
[10:39] <oobe> you can try downloading the xbuntu alternate installer for 9.04 and the install mythbuntu-desktop from there
[10:39] <oobe> it will probably work out better
[10:40] <user1> ok, it's formatting
[10:41] <user1> I'll download the alternate, hopefully I won't need it
[10:44] <oobe> yeah hope so
[10:44] <oobe> to  tell you the truth i never had much luck with mythbuntu installers
[10:44] <oobe> i generally install kubuntu then install the mythbuntu-desktop
[10:45] <user1> I got myth working on ubuntu 6 I think, it was a pain
[10:45] <oobe> but i use my mythbox as a desktop aswell
[10:45] <user1> anything to make that easier
[10:45] <oobe> gonna have dinner soon so i will bbiab
[10:45] <user1> yeah I probablly will to
[10:45] <user1> thanks for your help
[10:46] <oobe> its ok
[10:46] <oobe> http://www.xubuntu.org/get#jaunty
[10:46] <oobe> get the alternate installer from there if you have any probs
[10:46] <oobe> with installation
[11:05] <user1> got to the last screen, same white square problem, then I ctrl_alt+F2 and did the sudo apt-get envyng-gtk as you suggested
[11:17] <user1> couldn't ctrl+alt+f1 back to original screen so rebooted
[11:18] <user1> now I can boot up but to same white screen, which is mythfrontend.real  I can alt+tab out of that and close it
[11:18] <user1> the screen works, just mythtvfrontend doesn't work
[11:43] <oobe> you need to setup mythtv first before mythfrontend
[11:44] <oobe> assuming you have installed your drivers correctly with envy your next step would be to launch mythbuntu-control-centre and go thru each step
[11:44] <oobe> then run mythtv-setup
[12:52] <oobe> user1, its ctl alt f7 to get back to x session
[15:07] <CarlFK> what is the package name that installs mythbuntu?
[15:07] <CarlFK> mythbuntu-desktop or something
[15:08] <CarlFK> hmm, seems it is mythbuntu-desktop
[15:10] <superm1> yup
[15:34] <CarlFK> when mysql-server gets installed, it asks for a root pw.  is there any way to pass the pw into the installer (like a preseed file) so it doesn't pause the install process?
[15:36] <superm1> CarlFK, the mythbuntu ubiquity installer handles this
[15:36] <superm1> and yes you can preseed it in ubiquity
[15:36] <CarlFK> superm1: how?
[15:37] <superm1> CarlFK, well er wait you are installing via meta package aren't you
[15:37] <superm1> not live disk
[15:37] <CarlFK> right
[15:37] <superm1> so you should be able to preset the debconf database for the questions that are being asked, but you'll have to look over the maintainer scripts to see what questions need to be filled in
[15:38] <CarlFK> yeah, did that once.  it didnt work.  when the prompt just popped up it reminded me - was hoping to find someone who knew
[15:41] <superm1> well there are several questions that need to be preseeded
[15:42] <superm1> at least 3-5
[15:51] <CarlFK> what I tried: "debconf-get-selections | grep mysql" will tell you what to preseed. and then "cat $preseed_file | debconf-set-selections" before you install
[15:56] <superm1> some of them are mythtv questions
[16:04] <soulfury> anyone know if i'll be able to play higher bitrate h264 with an ati x1900 vs a geforce 7050pv?
[16:06] <CarlFK> nvidia-settings, VALIDATION ERROR:  Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.; Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default Screen".
[16:07] <CarlFK> Segmentation fault - tring to enable crash dump uploader gizmo...
[16:16] <CarlFK> got it: sudo force_start=1 /etc/init.d/apport start
[16:17] <CarlFK> how do I add the terminal (bash shell window launcher) to the launcher?
[16:18] <CarlFK> im used to: find the menu option, right click, pick 'add to launcher'
[16:27] <CarlFK> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/370902
[16:54] <thedarkone>  anyone know if this is a pvr 250?  Hauppauge model 61371, B2
[17:36] <user1> I'm having some trouble getting mythtv-setup.real to work, it behaves as if the font is black on black
[17:37] <user1> I can highlight buttons
[17:37] <user1> I also get some error messages
[17:37] <user1> X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture Parameter) 160 {or 8}
[17:37] <user1> also
[17:38] <user1> mythtv: cound not connect to socket
[17:38] <user1> mythtv: No such file or directory
[17:38] <user1> also
[17:39] <user1> No theme dir: /home/user/.mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu-8.04
[17:39] <user1> the themes directory doesn't exist, and this is not 8.04
[17:39] <user1> using version 9
[17:53] <user1> I'm having some trouble getting mythtv-setup.real to work, it behaves as if the font is black on black
[17:54] <CNLiberal> i'm having some issues with deleteing files from my md RAID5...also, MythWeb isn't showing me that anyprograms are recorded
[17:54] <CNLiberal> when i know there are lots
[17:54] <CNLiberal> i want to delete them, but can't
[17:54] <CNLiberal> also, mythcommflag has been running for quite a while...and i can't kill the process
[18:01] <user1> oobe: I'm having some trouble getting mythtv-setup.real to work, it behaves as if the font is black on black
[18:02] <oobe> did you get your drivers working
[18:02] <oobe> ati drivers
[18:05] <user1> well I think os
[18:05] <user1> so
[18:05] <user1> it's working
[18:05] <user1> if I look closely the screen is not 100% clear like 99.9%
[18:06] <user1> your envy program seemed to have worked
[18:07] <user1> If it wasn't for the BadMatch errors I would think it's a theme problem
[18:09] <oobe_> that Badmatch thing is common
[18:09] <user1> ah
[18:09] <oobe_> are you using gant
[18:10] <user1> if so I think I have a theme problem
[18:10] <thedarkone>  anyone know if this is a pvr 250?  Hauppauge model 61371, B2
[18:10] <user1> sorry I'm not familiar with "gnat"
[18:14] <oobe_> thedarkone, is that from lspci
[18:14] <oobe_> its the default theme
[18:15] <oobe_> for mythtv
[18:15] <user1> oh
[18:15] <user1> well no idea then
[18:15] <user1> I get an error..
[18:15] <user1> No theme dir: /home/user/.mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu-8.04
[18:15] <user1> and it behaves as if all of the fonts are black on black,
[18:16] <oobe_> user1, type this in a console  ln -s /usr/share/mythtv/themes ~/.mythtv
[18:18] <oobe_> its easier if you just copy and paste
[18:18] <oobe_> just open a program like xterm
[18:18] <user1> it's a different machine
[18:19] <user1> ok I created the link
[18:19] <user1> I'll try the setup program again
[18:19] <user1> it's the same
[18:20] <user1> it might not be a font issue
[18:20] <user1> the highlight color is different now,, I remember it being blue, now it is orange
[18:22] <oobe_> i dont know what you mean
[18:23] <user1> in the program I can use the arrow keys to move the highlighted button, or selected textbox
[18:23] <user1> but I can't read any text, when I type in a textbox I cna't see that either
[18:24] <user1> it might not be that the font is black on black, it might be that the program is only partially functional
[18:25] <oobe> rm -rf ~/.mythtv/themecache/*
[18:25] <user1> same deal :(
[18:25] <oobe> then restart the mythtv-setup
[18:26] <oobe> or if you can guide yourself to select a different theme select gant
[18:26] <user1> can you tell me the keystrokes to get there?
[18:27] <user1> in the control center I tried to disable all themes except for one,, this didn't help
[18:28] <oobe> i thinks its likely that you do not have your graphics drivers configured correctly
[18:29] <user1> in the envy program I choose ATI, I think before on this computer I had nvida installed.
[18:29] <oobe> all themes should display fine
[18:29] <user1> everything else seems to work, firefox for instance
[18:29] <oobe> is it the same computer
[18:30] <oobe> firefox doesnt require anything fancy to run
[18:31] <oobe> here you go https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Modifying%20xorg.conf
[18:31] <oobe> i used google for you
[18:31] <user1> thanks,
[18:38] <oobe> im going to bed best of luck
[18:41] <user1> thanks
[20:07] <DarthFrog_> Anybody home?  Knock, knock.  :-)
[20:07] <DarthFrog_> I had sound on Mythbuntu Intrepid working fine.
[20:07] <DarthFrog_> Then I upgraded to Jaunty.  Now I have sound problems.
[20:08] <DarthFrog_> The sound level is *way* down.  Many dB.
[20:08] <DarthFrog_> And twiddling with alsamixer channels does nothing.
[20:08] <DarthFrog_> Pulseaudio is not installed.  I tried it, then ripped it out.
[20:09] <DarthFrog_> Nothing is muted AFAICT.
[20:10] <DarthFrog_> If I crank the volume up (way up!) on my receiver, I can hear sound.  But the S/N ratio is very poor.
[20:21] <KNIGHT3000> Hi, what is the command to use to update from 9.04 RC to 9.04 final?
[20:24] <DarthFrog_> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:27] <KNIGHT3000> thank you sir
[21:02] <KNIGHT3000_> anyone have an issue with the screen being pink?
[21:03] <KNIGHT3000_> I'm using NVIDIA 180.44 driver
[21:07] <superm1> DarthFrog_,check for hidden mixers like front or pcm too
[22:06] <KNIGHT3000_> for mythbuntu is there some like gnome-volume-control?
[23:44] <DarthFrog_> superm1: Been there, done that. If it's in alsamixer, I've twiddled with it.  Nothing is muted, everything is cranked near max.