[00:00] I recommend staying on latest ubuntu, but then I like all the toolchain hardening that started in 8.10. :) [00:01] kees: What version of Ubuntu does www.ubuntu.com run on? :-) [00:03] andol: I actually don't know. :P [00:04] hello [00:04] kees: Well, the netcraft respons does suggest an Ubuntu 8.04 :P [00:05] btw, does ubuntu server support mandatory access control similar to that found in selinux? and if not by default, is it possible to install that later on? [00:06] has anyone had any experience installing Wolfenstien: ET on Linux 9.04 server??? [00:06] alice583: apparmor is available by default, and selinux is available in the archive. [00:06] alice583: There is a gradualy improving support for MAC using Apparmor. [00:06] andol: Pretty much the entire Canonical DC runs on LTS releases. [00:07] Yet, I'd say RHEL/CentOS have come a bit further with the selinux deployment. [00:07] s/the/their/ [00:08] has anyone had any experience installing Wolfenstien: ET on Linux 9.04 64 server??? [00:10] I have tried to install and keep getting this error message: [00:11] I have tried to install and keep getting this error message: ./setup.sh: 278: /home/username/. setup 2723: not found [00:13] wow 176 people in the room and no one answers?!?! [00:13] cool [00:48] could anybody help me out I have a webserver and mail server my problem is they are on 2 different servers with 2 different ip addresses how would I get the subdomain to work [01:06] anybody? [01:18] what commands would I use to update my server and keep it patched with all the latest updates? [01:20] its apt-get update and apt-get upgrade [01:37] New bug: #370445 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (universe) "MySQL-server-5.1 indirectly installs postfix" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370445 [02:35] Hi, I am wondering how to give the sox package mp3 encoding support. I installed the sox and lame packages, but sox still cannot encode mp3 files. === matt is now known as mat1211 [02:56] any chance that i can use php-apc.deb on hardy? its not in apt [03:00] can I have 2 different servers with 2 different internal ip addresses? like one for webserver and other one for mail server? [03:00] both using virtual hosting? === Fumoh` is now known as Fumoh|ZzZz [03:06] TimReichhart: not sure what you are asking really [03:07] ok how would I get 2 servers to work on one domain but they are on 2 seprate internal ip addresses [03:08] lets say my webserver is on ip of 192.168.20.5 and my mail server is on 192.168.30.196 how would I get both of them to work as one for one domain [03:08] define work as one [03:09] well I just said [03:09] get 2 server to work on one domain [03:09] servers* [03:10] is there some kind of virtual hosting I need to setup on both machines [03:14] ok i guess nobody knows [03:14] i am really struggling to understand what you mean [03:15] it sounds like you aren't really sure what you are trying to achieve [03:15] yes I do know what im trying to achieve [03:15] are you hoping to have both servers respond to http requests? [03:15] no [03:15] what are you solving for? [03:16] ok i will explain [03:17] i have 2 servers doing to different things for one domain I want one server doing the email and the other one doing the website but they are on 2 different machines with 2 different internal ip addresses [03:17] i know you can do that [03:18] TimReichhart, you just need to change your ip schema on your network to a 16 bit (or class b) network to support your goal [03:18] foxbuntu: not necessarily [03:18] yea that is what i was thinking [03:18] TimReichhart: can you ping one from the other? [03:19] mikegriffin, no it can be done with routing as well [03:19] well I was able to ping to both of them [03:19] I can ping all machines on my network [03:19] mikegriffin, but using a 16 bit subnet is usually the easiest vs static routes [03:20] a static route is completely unrelated as is routing subnets, etc if the hosts can currently ping each other [03:20] its just a matter of configuring a smart host and mx [03:21] mikegriffin, agreed, I didnt see that until after my previous statement [03:21] but how would I do the mx then? [03:21] foxbuntu: this is why i was asking for clarification instead of goose chasing [03:21] TimReichhart: both servers running postfix? does an mx record exist currently? [03:21] * foxbuntu goes away to do something else [03:22] foxbuntu: sorry didnt mean to be rude [03:22] no only one machine is doing the postfix [03:23] TimReichhart: with the terms mx and smarthost, you have everything you need to research this or ask your provider [03:24] if you have a specific question shoot [03:26] not much help here [03:27] boggles [03:27] so would I need to setup virutal hosting on my mail server [03:27] TimReichhart: are you kidding me? [03:27] no im not kidding you [03:27] pmatulis: your turn [03:28] nah, way too tired [03:28] pmatulis: any help for me? [03:28] so your telling me there is noway I can do this then [03:28] tried to get php-apc on hardy, tried hardy-backports [03:28] TimReichhart: no, its quite easy to configure [03:28] i dont see how its easy [03:29] mikegriffin: fewer words is best [03:30] New bug: #370655 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.3.2-1ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: package samba is already installed and configured" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370655 [03:31] so can i setup a virutal host on my email server then [03:32] TimReichhart: do you know what 'smart host' means? [03:32] not really please explain mike [03:32] no [03:35] alright [03:35] then whats the use of telling me about it if you cant explain it [03:36] i gave pretty good advice i thought. do you not have a hosting provider that helps you with this sort of thing? [03:36] i got crappy godaddy [03:37] and i am hosting the sites on my own servers [03:48] TimReichhart: so you want to have all mail handled by the second server, not the webserver [03:48] that is correct [03:48] what do you hope to accomplish by doing that? [03:50] all i wanted to do to see how this all works because i know isp's do this [03:50] is there a problem doing that? [03:50] by making changes that you do not understand, you introduce complexities that make debugging harder perhaps [03:50] you probley come back saying that is stupid [03:51] no, it can make sense to have a different server handle mail [03:51] but it does not always make sense to do so [03:52] alright [06:23] Hey guys [06:24] if your home directory name changes to some wierd name does that mean Ive been hacked? [06:28] Could be filesystem corruption [06:29] ar: I'd say either (a) you did it, (b) someone else with appropriate authority did it, (c) a hardware or software problem mangled the filesystem... or (d) you got hacked. [06:30] Did its name change in /etc/passwd and in the actual filesystem? [06:32] Also is it /home got renamed or /homename [06:32] Rather /home/somename [06:33] Could be /home is mounted on wrong partition also. Had this happen before [09:39] Hi there.. I have a general question because I am set up a Ubuntu-Server now.. I have 4 GB of RAM so I think about using the 64bit version.. Are ALL server specific packages are also available as 64bit packages or only a subset? If last one is yes, what percentage is available? [09:41] mpathy: As far as I know, all server-related packages in Ubuntu itself are available for amd64; there may be some commercial software for Ubuntu that is not, though. For Ubuntu software in main and universe, the answer really should be 100%. [09:46] Okay.. So would you suggest to use a 64bit installation, when I have 4 GB of RAM on a AMD Athlon 64 X2 5600+ Dual Core? It is some kind of 50:50 if I should do or not, in my opinion, so I wanted to ask someone more experienced.. [09:52] jmarsden: What do you think about that? [09:54] It's probably fine to use 64bit on that machine. I run 64bit here on Intel E5200 with 8Gb RAM (several of virtual machines!) [09:55] jmarsden: You said for main and universe 100% - is there a possibilty to easily compare this also for multiverse? [09:55] You can look; I just have no experience with multiverse. [09:56] What is there in multiverse that you are expecting to use on your server? [09:57] jmarsden: Okay, but do you think there is a big speed difference between 32bit and 64bit with server specs? [09:57] No, very little difference. [09:57] jmarsden: Perhaps some additional tools for sieve, or something [09:58] jmarsden: Okay then to being on the secure side I stay with 32bit :) THANKS :) [09:58] No problem. [10:50] ok I am here chalcedony [10:51] * chalcedony smiles [10:51] jay3: ask :) [10:51] ok [10:52] Yes I was wondering with the new ubuntu server does it automatically install amazon clud and if so is there any way a person can uninstall it? [10:52] clud=cloud [10:55] ok [10:55] ubuntu [11:41] New bug: #370784 in openldap (main) "cn=config is not documented in README.Debian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/370784 [12:14] Hi There.. How big can a /boot get on a Ubuntu Server? Is 256 MB sufficient or is 512 MB more secure? [12:58] hey guys [12:58] morning mib_l6ub2tbm [12:59] my server will not pickup an ip address from my router [12:59] i want to give it dynamic ip address [13:05] anyone [14:32] Hi === asac_ is now known as asac [14:34] I installed Apache2 and configure some web (for intranet only) and when I use "a2dissite name_of_site" the site still available in "http://machine_ip/name_of_site". Is it normal? [14:35] IvanCosta: Did you restart apache? [14:36] Maxb: yes. [14:36] I don't understand that [14:40] Maxb: The webpages are in the "/etc/www/name_of_web". Until now, I used only one webpage with openSUSE and Apache. I didn't use enable control because is only one webpage. But now, I use Ubuntu Server and I need to use many webages (just for intranet). [14:41] Maxb: So, I have to enable and disable one or other to do some changes. How can I do this? [14:42] I'm afraid I don't completely understand what you're saying [14:43] Perhaps you are misusing the word "webpage" when you actually mean "website" or "virtual host" ? [14:43] Also I have no idea what you mean by "I didn't use enable control" [14:47] Maxb: I'm sorry about the terms, I'm newbie in Apache. Until last week, I was use one server with Apache2 (in openSUSE) with a wiki inside (just for me and other computers in my house). So, I installed Apache and put the wiki folder in /htdocs and it worked! [14:50] Maxb: Now, I make another webpages, in php, and I wan't to do the same processes, but I decided to use Ubuntu Server. I installed Apache2 and made some configuration in /etc/apache2/sites-available/name_of_site. I have just one server for 5 websites (just for intranet). Is this "websites" or "virtualhosts"? [14:51] Virtualhosts are when you have http://something.mydomain.tld/ and http://somethingelse.mydomain.tld/ be different websites but served from the same server [14:53] If you find the 'sites' configuration infrastructure added by Debian/Ubuntu to be unwanted complication, you don't have to use it [14:53] Maxb: I normaly use http://server_ip/name_of_the_folder_site to access. [14:55] Maxb: How can I do to make the access like you said (http://something.mydoman/), but just for intranet? [14:55] What do you mean, just for intranet? [14:58] I have six computers in my house (one more for samba-apache server). The Apache2 webpages is only to use with this computer. The "sites" isn't registred in www. === valiant8086 is now known as mat1211 === kirkland` is now known as kirkland [18:06] does anyone know hot to propagate /etc/environment changes without reboot? [18:06] *how [18:10] beawesomeinstead: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables [18:10] ? [18:41] Hey, ya'll! When installing 8.10 server in expert mode, I get to Installing additional components, about 24% in and all a sudden the screen goes to blinking black/white fitfully. After about 30-40min. I see a screen lined with "failed" down the left side. :-( [18:42] I did the disc-checker-thinger successfully. [18:47] mac9416: (a) Try using the normal (non-expert) install? (b) Try 9.04 server instead? [18:48] I can't really try 9.04 yet. I will try the Normal mode, though. [18:51] hello people [18:52] i need help with partitioning [18:53] Go ahead, wizardslovak. [18:55] well i am about to install server with LAMP as my study server [18:55] right now i want to partition disk [18:55] BRB... [18:55] Don't go away. [18:55] but problem is i dont really know how many gbs i should use fo what lets say Swap,/,bott and home [18:56] ok [18:56] so till you come ill write what i have so far [18:57] its 80gb hard disk and i primary is 79.3 logical (swap) 756 [18:57] all of this partitioning system did [18:57] wizardslovak: swap = 2 x RAM, but more than 2 GB is usually wasteful [18:57] so 1024 [18:57] should be good [18:58] wizardslovak: what will your server be doing? [18:58] wizardslovak: LAMP only? [18:58] its test server for LAN [18:58] i just want to learn servers [18:59] i am noob to it tho [18:59] wizardslovak: so 1 GB swap is plenty [18:59] for now i want to be able to host web site [18:59] with some storage for files [19:00] and mysql [19:01] so far i have 79.3 for / [19:01] and 756 for swap [19:01] wizardslovak: 79.3 GB? [19:02] yes , default system partition [19:02] swap is logical or primary? [19:03] wizardslovak: if you have only 2 partitions (/ and swap) then make swap be primary [19:03] how many partitions i need ?? is 2 enough? [19:03] i want to do my own partitioning [19:04] wizardslovak: for you, yes. in a real setting you would almost always set up a partition for /home and /tmp [19:04] well real setting? lets do that [19:06] wizardslovak: then set up /, /tmp, swap, and /home [19:06] ok [19:06] so swap 1024mb primary? === dmesg is now known as edsoncanto [19:08] wizardslovak: /tmp (512 MB), swap (1 GB), /home (50 GB), and / (the rest). calculate / in advance and beging by creating it === edsoncanto is now known as ecanto [19:09] all of them as primary partitions? [19:09] wizardslovak: or just put 20 GB for /, 1 GB for swap, 512 MB for /tmp, and /home will take the rest [19:09] wizardslovak: sure, you get four of them [19:10] ok give me sec [19:10] * pmatulis goes to do something else, will be back in 30 [19:10] Sorry, wizard, do you still need help partitioning? === JoeliousCeasar is now known as mac94163 [19:11] I reckon that looked a little funny. [19:11] The benifits of having too many accounts. [19:12] And now I get a charming little "3" on the end of my name. [19:12] well partitioning is done hehe [19:12] still hang on i will have more questions [19:12] Okee-dokee will do. [19:12] shoul i install LAMP by intalation or manually install it later? [19:15] My wireless internet signal is perfectly atrocious. [19:16] lol === JoeliousCeasar is now known as mac9417 === mac9417 is now known as mac941621 [19:16] i never couldnt make my audio and wireless work tho [19:16] Whoever I am. :-P [19:16] so i just left it as it is [19:16] on desktop pc i did , however on laptop i couldnt [19:17] right now server is installing [19:17] Cool [19:17] i am happy for it too [19:19] ok [19:20] so right now i have choice of installing LAMP ' [19:20] should i install it now or later? [19:20] whats openssh server? [19:21] Stupid wireless. [19:21] I'll just keep this nick for now. [19:21] :-P [19:22] So, you're about to install LAMP? [19:22] yes [19:22] it asks me if i want to do it now [19:23] should i do it or install it manually later? [19:23] I would do it now, but it's your call. [19:24] well i am noob in it so i am asking pros lol [19:24] I'm certainly not a apro, but I think installing now is about the same as later. I'd go for it. [19:25] well i did LAMP and Samba [19:27] so another question [19:28] question is how will i be able to connect to server tru LAN?? [19:28] i will set up server and let it be by itself [19:28] so i want to be able to install and maintin server from my laptop [19:29] OK, you will want to use a thing called SSH. [19:29] so i should install that openssh? [19:30] did u ever done it?? [19:30] The SSH server comes with Ubuntu Server, I believe. [19:30] Yup, actually have. [19:30] if yes i will need help how to install and connect to it [19:30] :-D- [19:30] damn i didnt [19:31] I believe the SSH client is shipped with the normal Ubuntu (your laptop) [19:31] lol my laptop didnt come with kubuntu preintslled [19:31] i did it myself [19:32] Yeah, that's cool, the SSH client should be on there. [19:32] lol so installation finished but i got an error [19:32] GRUB loading error 18?! [19:32] Crud, what was it? [19:32] Oh, I think that's easy to fix. [19:32] Hold on... [19:32] ok [19:33] http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB#Error_18 [19:33] Try that... [19:34] Let me try something a little more pithy... [19:34] "You've run into the BIOS cylinder limit. This is most probably an older machine with a newer disk... In any case, you have to set things up so that the grub first stage is below the BIOS limit." [19:34] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77042.html [19:34] I looked to that thread the very firat time I installed Ubuntu on a computer. [19:35] A 2g hard drive. :-D [19:35] so i gotta go to bios and fix what? [19:35] "The easiset way is to create a small 'boot' partition (only a few meg needed) at the beginning of the disk. [19:35] If you have a DOS (FAT16 or FAT32) partition on at the beginning of your disk, you can actually use that to install your boot data in -- just specify that partition as your boot partition (/boot), and remember to set it so that the partition is NOT formatted (i'm presuming you don't want to lose your Windows data -- if you do, then you'd probably be better off to reformat the partition to ext3 than leave it as FAT) [19:35] " [19:35] Um... [19:35] Wait a min... [19:36] i dont have no dual boot [19:36] this machine will be linux only [19:37] Right. Is your HD very old? [19:37] they are (pc and hd) same age [19:37] actually they come together [19:38] Is the computer very old? [19:39] yes 7 years [19:39] its old dell dimension 2400 [19:40] Hmmm. Try setting the HD mode to LBA in the BIOS. [19:40] lol [19:41] i dont see it nowhere === JoeliousCeasar is now known as mac9416 [19:41] You're in the BIOS? [19:42] yes [19:43] OK, go to the first option ( top left) in the BIOS. [19:43] (I haven't done this for awhile) [19:44] I believe you will see a list of drives. [19:44] drive configiration? [19:44] I think. Maybe. [19:44] Do you see anything that says "mode" [19:44] Maybe a column in a table of drives. [19:44] ? [19:45] no [19:45] Hmmm. I wish I had an extra computer beside me... [19:46] hmmm [19:46] so i quess i wont be able to have server on this old crap [19:46] Just a sec... [19:47] Now hang with me, I've installed Ubuntu on what has to be the oldest computer in the county.... [19:47] lol [19:47] ok [19:48] In the BIOS, what info is at the top of the screen... [19:48] Should be BIOS info name/version etc. [19:48] bios version A03 [19:49] "Award" BIOS? [19:49] it doesnt say only a03 [19:49] OK... [19:50] I'm looking at screenshots, trying to refresh my memory. [19:52] OK, go to standard CMOS features... [19:52] give me sec [19:52] Hi, guys. [19:52] Hiya [19:52] How can I test the mysql port? [19:53] Heavens, IDK. [19:54] My MySql is working but I can't access from other computers... [19:54] lol [19:54] mac9416: i changed my jumper to master ANd it works now lol [19:55] wizardslovak, hehe, I am a dummy. [19:55] lol i just found it on ubuntuforums heheh [19:55] Master w/slave present (cdrom)? [19:55] ok now i am logg on to my new server [19:55] hd master cdrom master [19:55] Cool. [19:55] hihi so how should i check/imnstall ssh? [19:56] Just a min... [19:57] should i get gui for server?? i mean i will use it as standalone server and point is to learn command lol [19:57] OK, try "sudo apt-get install openssh-server" [19:57] A GUI isn't necessary... [19:58] But it could be nice. [19:58] ok so i have openssh installed [19:58] it would be lol [19:58] Alright, hold on... [19:59] OK, what kind of network connection do you have between your laptop and your server? [20:00] if laptop in on linux its LAN if on windows its wireless , server will be connected with Cat5e enthernet cable to the router [20:00] router runs dd-wrt [20:01] wizardslovak: good choice on dd-wrt... [20:01] i always used dd-wrt [20:01] Hey, I'll have to talk to you about dd-wrt later, but right now... [20:01] (I have a new router) [20:01] this is my 3rd router i flashed [20:02] ok mac you help me with server ill help you with router [20:02] Cool. OK, so run "ifconfig" on the server... [20:02] This will tell you its IP address. [20:05] ok i got ip adress [20:06] Alright, now on your laptop type "ping " [20:06] Just to make sure the connection is there. [20:06] ok its pinging [20:07] No errors? [20:08] no [20:08] Cool. Now type (on the laptop) "ssh " [20:08] how to stop ping? [20:08] ctrl+s? [20:09] ctrl-c [20:09] :-D [20:09] ok no errors [20:09] ssh ip -> error [20:09] Did it ask for a password? [20:10] Uh-oh. [20:10] the authenticity of host ip cant be established [20:10] That's alright. [20:10] i clicked yes now it asks password [20:10] OK, cool... [20:11] ok i typed password and now i am in [20:11] lol [20:11] lets try update it true ssh [20:11] OK [20:11] sudo apt-get install update? [20:11] right? [20:11] Yup [20:12] Wait... [20:12] Yeah, try it. [20:12] "couldn't find package update" [20:13] Oops. Try "apt-get update" [20:13] Silly me [20:13] :-P [20:14] done [20:14] Very cool. [20:14] :-D :-D [20:14] what if i want to connect to server from Wlan?? [20:15] lets say from my friends house/ [20:15] ssh wlanip:lanip [20:15] ?? [20:15] Wirelss? Should be the same way. [20:16] no wireless [20:16] somewhere out of range of my LAn [20:16] Internet? [20:16] Hmmm. [20:18] ?? [20:18] how to check if lamp is working? [20:19] For the SSH over internet: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-271036.html [20:19] Well, to see if the web server is working, go to your laptop... [20:20] open Firefox and type: "" in the address bar. [20:20] lol [20:20] "it works" [20:21] Yup. [20:21] :-D [20:21] niceee [20:22] what if i want to upload web site from laptop to server? [20:22] What form is the website in? One html page? [20:22] well i didnt make it yet [20:23] i will use probably quanta+/dreamweaver [20:23] OK. Well, IDK much about it, but navigate to /var/www on your server... [20:23] hmm i read here that i should add port to the server [20:24] ? [20:24]