[00:16] when i change the resolution over settings => display it gets lost after reboot, how can i make it permanent? [00:18] what gpu do you have / what xubuntu version / did you activate your GPU drivers in Apps -> System -> Peripheral drivers ? [00:28] i have a radeon 9550, i didn't activate the proprietary drivers because the the radeon drivers work well. [00:28] xubuntu version is 9.04 [00:31] Well, they dont work so well since your resolution isnt saved ;) [00:50] fglrx does not support my card anyway (too old) hm, there must be a solution... [00:51] The solution is to use the ubuntu supplied drivers instead [00:53] when i got to system => hardware drivers it tells me that there are no proprietary drivers for my system (ati has dropped the support for older cards) [00:54] Well, try to edit xorg.conf manually then [00:54] !xorg.conf [00:54] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [00:54] It is right, there are ati drivers anymore for old cards. fglrx is in the same boat [01:02] I have a problem with gwibbler, it freezes when it updates the feeds... anyone know a fix? (reinstalling doesn't do the trick) [01:03] eh, gwibber, that is... [01:10] hmpf :-( [01:38] my internet connection seems ok until I try to download anything. Any suggestions as to where I might look for answers on this one? [01:41] is it wireless or lan? [01:44] try to run "ping -c 10 www.google.com" you should get a time around 19.7 ms [01:45] could anybody please advice me... im trying to install xubuntu on a laptop but by the time i reboot to access the cd nothing happens... what compatibility problem could be because i have installed xubuntu on this laptop, but the other one wont recognize the cd [01:45] no even ubuntu's cd [01:45] what happens when you reboot [01:46] it just sits there? [01:46] ron_o: is it wireless or lan? [01:46] the "_" character blips for a while and then it continues to windows [01:46] wired. [01:46] lan [01:47] when I reboot it comes up fine again. [01:47] actually, the lights blick nearly normal, .. [01:47] damn, I am so frustrated by this. [01:47] it must be on my end. [01:47] I'm thinking about just hooking up directly to the cable line. and see how well it works. [01:47] Afze: you need to go into bios and make sure the CD-ROM is in the boot order before the hard drive [01:47] maybe the kernel its too new for the laptop? i can get running older cds of mandriva... [01:48] I even put in an amplifier and it worked well for awhile.. [01:48] of course, the cd is first boot device [01:48] ron_o: run this "ping -c 10 www.google.com" you should get a time around 19.7 ms [01:49] Afze: go in to windows and tell me what you see on the ubuntu cd [01:49] 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9010ms [01:50] the first time I lost my connection, and then it came back immediately. [01:50] damn 9010 is a long time [01:50] so the first ping, it said unkonwn host. [01:50] it is. [01:50] i get like 19 [01:50] I know. [01:50] run that same command but on your router [01:51] like "ping -c 10 (router ip here)" [01:52] you have to ping around your network and find exactly where the slow down is [01:53] you may also want to switch your UDP wires to STP or Sheilded Twisted Pair [01:53] the cd doesnt even appear when i put it on windows [01:53] STP blocks interference [01:54] Afze: you cant even see any files on the CD? [01:54] nope [01:54] well thats why its not booting [01:54] it never even made it to the kernel [01:55] you have to reburn the CD [01:55] its not burning right [01:55] you downloaded a .iso? [01:56] but i installed that same cd on this laptop [01:56] i just cant get it on the other laptop that im trying [01:57] ohh, is it a really old computer? [01:57] yes, the xubuntu 9.04 Desktop i386 iso [01:57] ok [01:57] it is [01:58] but it does recognize mandriva [01:58] does the cd_rom support cd-r's? [01:58] an old mandriva cd that i have [01:59] since its an old computer, sometimes they can not read all cd-r's [01:59] it supports dvd reading but not burning... and cd read & burn [01:59] hmmm [01:59] hmm ok [02:00] to tell you the truth i burned the xubuntu iso on a dvd cause i didnt had a blank cd... [02:00] if windows is not seeing any of the files, you will not be able to boot off it [02:00] im gonna try burning it on a cd... you think that could be it? [02:00] hmmmm [02:01] try with a different kind of cd-r [02:01] if you have others [02:01] but not with a cd-rw, they have lots of problems [02:01] yea try with a different cd-r [02:01] ok, i never use those anyways [02:02] when you put the ubuntu disk in windows i think it auto runs a intro web page [02:02] ok, so you dont think the kernel being too new could be the problem... or is it the contrary? [02:03] so you should be able to explore the files on that disk with windows [02:03] yes, it does on other pcs [02:03] yeah [02:03] no it looks to me like a hardware problems [02:03] your cd-rom does not want to read the disk, thats all [02:04] i have seen this before in older comps [02:05] but its not a cdrom drive problem... i change the drive on the old laptop for the one on this laptop and the same thing happened [02:06] hmm.... [02:07] do you have any external usb cd-rom drives? [02:08] nope [02:08] does the old laptop support booting from usb? like do a usb flash drive install [02:09] i would first try to reburn it on a different cd-r [02:09] just to see what happens [02:11] i tried to do that... but i could get the usb working for it... do you know a good tutorial for that... im sucha newbie i could handle the one on the ubuntu documentation [02:14] try to reburn the cd-r with the alternate installation. [02:16] like this one xubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso [02:16] hmm didnt know that [02:16] ok cool ill do it [02:16] thanks [02:16] hope it works lol [02:16] np [02:17] i'm thinking of setting up a directory to store my wallpaper, *.desktop files, & various icons in... any suggestions as to whether i should put it in ~/.local or ~/.config ? i'll softlink them to where ever they end up needing to be later, just wanting a single spot for the various WMs i use [02:17] haha thanks [02:18] pwd [02:19] pteague i would just create a new dir like ~/.wms and use that [02:25] Hi everyone [02:26] I am having problems with my xubuntu internet connection can someone help me? [02:26] no one here? [02:27] what kind of problem? [02:28] well it's a belking usb dongle [02:29] it's being recognized when i type lsusb [02:29] i was wondering if i could install a driver through ndiswrapper? [02:38] looking for gui for openvpn client on xubuntu. Any suggestions? [03:08] hi [03:09] c [03:10] i have installed xubuntu 9.04 and the linux-rt (the realtime kernel), and it doesn't work [03:10] i can log in graphically, then it shows the mouse but not the menus [03:11] i'm using ircii in a terminal, so it's really hard... i appreciate any help [03:12] can you read me? [04:25] is there a way to properly remove applications that dont appear in add/remove? [04:26] apt-get remove package [04:26] as root [04:26] Depends on how they were installed [04:26] if you did the ./configure make makeinstall method.... try make clean on it [04:27] thank you both :) [04:38] hi [04:38] who can help me ? [04:40] anybody here ? [04:40] nobody answer here [04:42] who can help me ? [04:42] Can somebody help me, I am getting all kinds of errors in gparted [04:43] Carlis, what do you need help with? [04:43] Spen12, what are your errors? [04:44] last one said cannot complete partition is mounted. It is mounting by itself over and over. It won;t stay unmounted [04:44] what are you partitioning? [04:44] are you partitioning your system while youre running it, Spen12 ? [04:44] When i begin to install xubuntu, I receive the error ubuquity program has closed expectedly [04:44] my hard drive that has been partitioned before and it worked fine [04:45] no I'm in live mode right now [04:46] meatcar can u help me with that error ? [04:46] checking google. [04:46] ok [04:47] Carlis, at what point does it crash? have you tried alternate install? etc. [04:48] latest error was divice does not exist [04:48] device* [04:48] I insert the flash memory and restart the pc [04:49] it has been running weird anyway, I have a 200GB hdd and it was saying 530TB so not sure what's going on [04:49] in the desktop, I choose the install icon [04:49] and I receive the error of ubiquity === charlie is now known as Guest33692 [04:50] hello, [04:51] anyone know how to set up a printer on xfce [04:51] nope :) [04:51] can u help me meatcar ? [04:52] I actually never use xubu I just need a partition editor [04:52] how can i fix the error with ubiquity ? [04:55] Spen12, heh, heh. I dont think i can help you there... try google. theyre magic sometimes. jsut get the model of the harddrive. [04:56] you know anything other than osx that can create a hfs+ partition? [04:56] meatcar can u help me ? [04:56] the cups package is broken after upgrade to jaunty, it won't go away, i can't add or remove anything now [04:56] sorry my had to reset the router. junky thing. [04:57] Spen12, I seem to recall that hfs+ is an option in most partition editors for Linux. parted, qtparted, gparted [04:57] carlis, can you please answer my q again. [04:58] it will read it but it cant create it in gparted [04:58] ok [04:58] I haven't used one that allows you to create it [04:59] when i begin tgo install xubuntu in the pc I receive the error about ubiquity has closed [04:59] anybody know one for sure that works? Don't wanna get others to have them not work [05:00] noboyd can help me ? [05:00] !ask | Carlis [05:00] Carlis: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [05:01] can somebody verify that qtparted can create hfs+? [05:02] ok [05:02] I see you are trying to do an install and having problems? You might try the checking yoru disk, or trying the alternate cd for doing the install [05:02] Spen12: you probably can create the partition, but I wouldn't be to sure about actually being able to create the fileystem... [05:03] I am trying to install it through the flash memory [05:03] a usb key? [05:03] I used apt-get for qtparted and can't find it. where should it be? [05:03] Flash memory [05:03] kde repo probebly [05:04] it should be installed but I can't find the program [05:04] ok [05:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [05:05] ^^^ Carlis [05:05] ok [05:06] Thanks meatcar [05:06] why can't I find qtparted? Any other parted's? I need to try others [05:07] Carlis, http://www.jonlee.ca/installing-xubuntu-without-a-cd-drive-the-weekend-project-continued/ [05:07] Spen12, qparted shouldnt differ from gparted exept for the interface. [05:08] figures, any other I can try though? [05:08] It should also be in the KDE repositories, i'd believe. I might be wrong about that. [05:08] that are actually different [05:08] you wish to format to hsf+? [05:08] yes [05:09] OSX disk utility sucks and I need hfs+ for the install [05:09] are you installing on a mac box? [05:10] why does that matter? [05:11] because if you are attempting to dualboot OSX and linux ,you might need to read some of the tutorials for that first. however, if you are setting up a macfileserver, i'd forst set up linux as ext3, and then hfs+ as a separate partition, which we can configure after xfce is going strong. [05:12] well I have a working XP partition and I can't get the drive working right for a mac one [05:13] Spen12, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4208841&postcount=2 [05:14] ooooh, thats danger country. youre better off backing up your xp partition, wiping the drive, installing osx, setting up boot camp, then setting up xp. [05:14] it is saying device doesn't exist/still mounted/location not found when it gets to the part where it should create the filesystem [05:15] is your hardware config supported by hackintosh? I get the drift you arent sitting in front of a mac. [05:15] now when it says vfat what exactly does it mean? [05:16] sorry, i meant OS x86. or whatever they call it [05:16] vfat is fat16, fat32, etc i believe [05:17] something I've done before is making a dd image of the XP rive then converting it to a virtualbox image. I can't recall the details but I remeber I wouldn't want to do it again, **** windows, it is too much evil to deal with [05:17] OSx86/Hackintosh/pirate OSX I don't care, but yes that is right. It boots everything w/o errors when it is set to check for them [05:18] it should work it just says error when it is told to run first aid or erase the drive [05:19] then you want to back up windows, and proceede mac 1st. its is impossible to format to hfs+ from anything non osx, from what i've read. [05:20] says fs error. could be related to not having 1024 cylinders, I have read there is something about that, that's necessary on some and not others [05:20] http://locoteam.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=425154 <<<< exact same problem as yours, i believe. [05:21] bacicaly, use a partition editor to clean all your partitions off. [05:21] then install osx. [05:22] how would I create a backup of my 2 XP copies to have 2 fresh hard drives? One is almost full (40GB) and other has about 30/40GB used (200GB drive) [05:22] no other drives atm [05:28] apparently that page served some use after all. System Rescue CD has hfs+ support. I can create it there [05:28] thanks [05:28] lol. no problem. [05:28] I'll try that and see if it works w/o removing XP [05:29] Spen12: you might also consider installing ubuntu then having OSX and XP as virtual guests. ubuntu plays nicer with existing partitions than XP and OSX [05:29] oo, missed him [05:30] he'll be back, maybe. [05:30] try MemoServ. [05:36] how do i remove applications from the xfce menu? [05:38] pteague, uninstall them from synaptic, or edit /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus thats where mine is.... [05:39] pteague: just from the menu you mean (still have them installed?) [05:39] just from the menu... [05:42] meatcar: is there a way to copy that to ~/ & modify it there? [05:43] i dont actually know this stuff. try poking around /etc/xdg/menus/ they seem pretty universal. they are the default values, that I believe are auto generated, so you have the mostrecent version availble for editing. [05:44] http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/manually-edit-the-xfce-menu/ pteague [05:46] ah, great, thanks :) [05:47] word of warning, this is a 2006 article. the flie path mentioned there is not availbe for me [05:51] i think i'll copy /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu as there are several other menus in there [05:54] also, try xfce4-menueditor [05:55] hmm... that's not available & i even tried xfce-menueditor, xfce4?-menuedit [05:56] yea, i realized that. they changed quite a bit up with 9.04 [06:11] hi guys - so i have xubuntu 8.10 and for some reason the 3d performance is real lacklustre - on a prior desktop my ubuntu performance was on par with or better than windows 3d performance on the same hardware, so i'm wondering if maybe it's just the graphics drivers aren't too great? it's an intel 965g with x3100 onboard graphics [06:11] i don't even know if this is exactly an ubuntu related issue, i just figured i'd start in here since this is what i'm using [06:11] would upgrading to 9.04 make a difference at all? [06:16] slvmchn, what you are looking for are users with similar experience. I recomend google as a method to solve your problem. I can say nontheless that upgraing may help. search for whether there was an update for your driver for 9.04 / the kernel. [06:23] hi, i have a problem with system-config-kickstart, in the Package Selection page there's no packages are available for selection, how can i fix this ? [06:25] ok meatcar, will do... i realize it's a pretty specific problem that nobody would probably know about unless they had the same hardware... but thanks for your time :-D [06:29] hmm wierd, i found a post on ubuntu forums by someone with same chipset/gpu and they said 8.04 they didn't have the problem... i guess i'll try upgrading, hopefully that fixes it... [06:42] anyone have an idea why my desktop background is showing random images jumbled together from ram instead of my background image? [06:51] i rebooted from MacOS to Xubuntu [06:51] and it's just showing random images that are hanging around in RAM [06:51] http://www.flickr.com/photos/deekayen/3492660523/ is a screenshot [06:52] i've tried setting different background images, solid color, and running xfdesktop --reload [06:52] nothing changes on the screen [06:53] I'm not even sure where to start putting blame - Xorg, Xfce, or Nvidia [06:53] i guess I can't see my desktop icons either [06:56] of course I'm not excited about the thought of whacking .config/xfce4 [06:58] so I whacked ~/.config/xfce4/desktop and that didn't fix it... [07:09] ok... I whacked the entire ~/.config/xfce4 dir and it still didn't fix [07:10] what else can I try [07:15] hmm... I'm thinking this is twinview [08:39] hello boys [08:40] i have some problem setting event sounds in 9.04. How i can change login and logout song? [08:43] firestorm, applications - system - login window [08:43] it's in the accessibility tab [08:45] thanks pep! it's works! [08:45] np [09:51] anybody know what program is run when you do settings -> preferred applications ? [09:51] hey all [09:51] just upgraded my desktop to 9.04 [09:51] and it doesn't boot anymore [09:52] well, it boots, just doesn't bring up the desktop [09:52] said something about not finding an exec file for xfce4, then something about not finding gnome failsafe, so it starts xterm failsafe, and gives me a terminal [09:53] pteague: exo-preferred-applications [09:53] pteague: i would imagin the app u select [09:53] pep: ty [09:53] pteague: when you click on "help", this comes up: file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/exo-preferred-applications.html [09:54] ah [09:54] always a good tip to click help ;) [09:54] i'm used to running kde & help isn't usually that helpful ;) [09:55] :) [09:55] daurnimator: Have you googled your error message? [09:55] no [09:56] try it out, works wonders ;) [09:56] let out the variables though [09:56] doesnt it tho pep [09:56] like IDs or your username and stuff like that [09:57] i cant tell u how many times ive had to say that to my roommate [09:57] ah, well, I ran xfce4-session in the xterm, and everything came up [09:57] but, why didn't it do it itself/ [09:57] did this only happen once? or on every startup? [10:00] well, just upgraded [10:00] haven't tried restarting again [10:01] maybe it was just a single-time bug [10:02] well, rebooting noww [10:05] same error [10:05] "No Exec line in the session file: xfce4. Running the GNOME failsafe session instead." [10:06] when I click ok to that: "Could not find the GNOME installation, will try running the 'Failsafe xterm' session." [10:07] maybe this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-utils/+bug/354204 === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [10:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7180510 [10:17] you seem to have found the correct bug [10:46] Hi all === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [11:07] Hello all [11:08] One question: I wonder if Xubuntu Jaunty has the same bunch of new features as the Ubuntu one. Asking that, because, I can't really see the notification tooltips. [11:09] I've heard There are integrated into the system now, at least on Ubuntu they are. [11:15] hi [11:17] Hello SiDi ! [11:18] Heya Slonkie :) [11:18] i have a problem with gwibber, it freezes every time it updates it's feed... does anyone know a fix? [11:19] * SiDi doesn't. [11:20] shame... gwibber works fine on ubuntu, but on the (older) xubuntu machine, it just won't [11:22] !gwibber [11:22] Sorry, I don't know anything about gwibber [11:22] !cookies [11:22] Cookies are delicious delicacies. [11:22] lol [11:22] !info gwibber [11:22] gwibber (source: gwibber): Open source microblogging client for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu5 (jaunty), package size 185 kB, installed size 1360 kB [11:22] aah, for gnome [11:23] what xubuntu version ? [11:23] yeah I know, but it's the best one out thee... I'll just have to find another one then... [11:23] jaunty [11:24] Run it in console please [11:24] and make it crash [11:24] and paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com [11:25] Sorry guys. Do you know anything on that notification system on Xubuntu? Is it a typical GNOME feature, thus Xubuntu didn't include it in the newest release? [11:26] LukaszJ: actually we lacked time for testing it [11:26] you can either install xfce4-notifyd or notify-osd from now on [11:26] they're both "stable" [11:27] i'm using notify-osd here and i'm very happy with it [11:27] Thank you Sidi [11:27] * SiDi downloads gwibber. Will take ages. [11:27] good to know :) [11:27] oh btw, we need testers and feedback :p [11:27] so chose one (notify-osd or xfce4-notifyd) use it extensively [11:27] SiDi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/162727/ - It throws an exception... no wonder it freezes ^^ [11:27] I wasn't sure if it was included by default or just external install [11:27] and please drop an email on the xubuntu mailing lists [11:28] SiDi: You got it [11:28] LukaszJ: Cody didnt want to include it because we didn't have much time for testing [11:28] Ah...ok [11:28] We need feedback (ie. does it lag / crash, are there missing features ?) [11:28] I'm going to do some testing on it then [11:28] I'll work on notify-osd as soon as I have the time. For instance we don't have the volume notifications at the moment. [11:28] Thanks again [11:29] you need testing on everything? [11:29] we need user feedback on the notification servers [11:29] tell us which you prefer so we dont include the other one :P [11:29] Ok [11:29] xfce4-notifyd or notify-osd? [11:29] Yeh [11:29] k [11:29] xfce4-notifyd is very new though [11:31] * SiDi configures gwibber with his facebook account ! [11:31] rakudave: did you google this error / check launchpad for known bugs by the way ? [11:31] I installed Ubuntu through Wubi or something (I think it still boots off the stick but uses grub, because I wasn't able to make it boot from USB before). Do I have to reinstall it with the Xubuntu Wubi? Well guess I'll just check if it takes the Xubuntu and alse reinstall... [11:32] SiDi: I did, but to no avail... [11:32] is there a comparison between Ubuntu and Xubuntu somewhere? [11:33] cougarten: you can install xubuntu with one command line ;) [11:33] sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [11:34] if i had to compare, i'd say xubuntu is (much) faster and more responsive, but ubuntu has a few more features (for the moment :p) [11:34] and it uninstalls the ubuntu desktop than? great [11:34] cougarten: no, you can run them along side [11:35] rakudave: i suggest you report a bug on launchpad with the trace [11:35] SiDi: ok I'll do that, thanks for taking the time [11:36] cougarten: it doesnt remove the other one [11:36] you'll have both, and you'll be able to switch at the login screen [11:36] rakudave: so I just change the startup apps? [11:36] with the 'session' button [11:36] ah [11:50] If I install notify-osd and xfce4-notifyd all together, wouldn't they conflict? [12:09] They will [12:10] only install one at a time [12:10] it'll also remove notification-daemon that is installed by default [12:16] If I'm allowed to ask one more thing [12:16] you're not [12:16] :P [12:16] Are they universal for all the xubuntu apps, except the volume manager? [12:17] What do you mean ? [12:18] I'm wondering if they will work for all the apps, so I don't have to install any 3rd plugins? [12:18] It'll work the same as now [12:18] Some apps send notifications, some don't [12:19] True. So, they will work for the ones that do, right? [12:20] Yeh [12:20] for instance pidgin / exaile / emesene's libnotify plugins will work the same way [12:20] (anyways most apps have been patched to have a better behaviour with notify-osd) [12:21] Ok [12:22] last question: Is a restart or logout necessary to make them work after the install? [12:26] Sorry if that was basic [12:38] its not :) [12:38] type killall notification-daemon && notify-osd & exit in a console [12:39] then open another one and type : notify-osd -i notification-message-email Hello "A kitten has sent you an email" [12:40] notify-send for the second command * :P [12:56] hello [12:57] some one can help me, plz. [13:01] hi [13:01] tell us your problem and we might be able to [13:04] hello SiDi [13:04] I need some information about terminal [13:04] I'm a new guy in Linux [13:04] Tell me ;) [13:05] and my pc can't play mp3 [13:05] Alright [13:05] it request Codec [13:05] you're under Xubuntu, right ? [13:05] yes [13:06]