[00:16] <michael_> when i change the resolution over settings => display it gets lost after reboot, how can i make it permanent?
[00:18] <SiDi> what gpu do you have / what xubuntu version / did you activate your GPU drivers in Apps -> System -> Peripheral drivers ?
[00:28] <michael_> i have a radeon 9550, i didn't activate the proprietary drivers because the the radeon drivers work well.
[00:28] <michael_> xubuntu version is 9.04
[00:31] <SiDi> Well, they dont work so well since your resolution isnt saved ;)
[00:50] <michael_> fglrx does not support my card anyway (too old) hm, there must be a solution...
[00:51] <charlie-tca> The solution is to use the ubuntu supplied drivers instead
[00:53] <michael_> when i got to system => hardware drivers it tells me that there are no proprietary drivers for my system (ati has dropped the support for older cards)
[00:54] <SiDi> Well, try to edit xorg.conf manually then
[00:54] <SiDi> !xorg.conf
[00:54] <charlie-tca> It is right, there are ati drivers anymore for old cards. fglrx is in the same boat
[01:02] <rakudave> I have a problem with gwibbler, it freezes when it updates the feeds... anyone know a fix? (reinstalling doesn't do the trick)
[01:03] <rakudave> eh, gwibber, that is...
[01:10] <rakudave> hmpf :-(
[01:38] <ron_o> my internet connection seems ok until I try to download anything. Any suggestions as to where I might look for answers on this one?
[01:41] <CloseYetFar> is it wireless or lan?
[01:44] <CloseYetFar> try to run "ping -c 10 www.google.com" you should get a time around 19.7 ms
[01:45] <Afze> could anybody please advice me...   im trying to install xubuntu on a laptop but by the time i reboot to access the cd nothing happens...  what compatibility problem could be because i have installed xubuntu on this laptop, but the other one wont recognize the cd
[01:45] <Afze> no even ubuntu's cd
[01:45] <CloseYetFar> what happens when you reboot
[01:46] <CloseYetFar> it just sits there?
[01:46] <CloseYetFar> ron_o: is it wireless or lan?
[01:46] <Afze> the "_" character blips for a while and then it continues to windows
[01:46] <ron_o> wired.
[01:46] <ron_o> lan
[01:47] <ron_o> when I reboot it comes up fine again.
[01:47] <ron_o> actually, the lights blick nearly normal, ..
[01:47] <ron_o> damn, I am so frustrated by this.
[01:47] <ron_o> it must be on my end.
[01:47] <ron_o> I'm thinking about just hooking up directly to the cable line. and see how well it works.
[01:47] <CloseYetFar> Afze: you need to go into bios and make sure the CD-ROM is in the boot order before the hard drive
[01:47] <Afze> maybe the kernel its too new for the laptop? i can get running older cds of mandriva...
[01:48] <ron_o> I even put in an amplifier and it worked well for awhile..
[01:48] <Afze> of course, the cd is first boot device
[01:48] <CloseYetFar> ron_o: run this  "ping -c 10 www.google.com" you should get a time around 19.7 ms
[01:49] <CloseYetFar> Afze: go in to windows and tell me what you see on the ubuntu cd
[01:49] <ron_o> 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9010ms
[01:50] <ron_o> the first time I lost my connection, and then it came back immediately.
[01:50] <CloseYetFar> damn 9010 is a long time
[01:50] <ron_o> so the first ping, it said unkonwn host.
[01:50] <ron_o> it is.
[01:50] <CloseYetFar> i get like 19
[01:50] <ron_o> I know.
[01:50] <CloseYetFar> run that same command but on your router
[01:51] <CloseYetFar> like "ping -c 10 (router ip here)"
[01:52] <CloseYetFar> you have to ping around your network and find exactly where the slow down is
[01:53] <CloseYetFar> you may also want to switch your UDP wires to STP or Sheilded Twisted Pair
[01:53] <Afze> the cd doesnt even appear when i put it on windows
[01:53] <CloseYetFar> STP blocks interference
[01:54] <CloseYetFar> Afze: you cant even see any files on the CD?
[01:54] <Afze> nope
[01:54] <CloseYetFar> well thats why its not booting
[01:54] <CloseYetFar> it never even made it to the kernel
[01:55] <CloseYetFar> you have to reburn the CD
[01:55] <CloseYetFar> its not burning right
[01:55] <CloseYetFar> you downloaded a .iso?
[01:56] <Afze> but i installed that same cd on this laptop
[01:56] <Afze> i just cant get it on the other laptop that im trying
[01:57] <CloseYetFar> ohh, is it a really old computer?
[01:57] <Afze> yes, the xubuntu 9.04 Desktop i386 iso
[01:57] <CloseYetFar> ok
[01:57] <Afze> it is
[01:58] <Afze> but it does recognize mandriva
[01:58] <CloseYetFar> does the cd_rom support cd-r's?
[01:58] <Afze> an old mandriva cd that i have
[01:59] <CloseYetFar> since its an old computer, sometimes they can not read all cd-r's
[01:59] <Afze> it supports dvd reading but not burning...  and cd read & burn
[01:59] <Afze> hmmm
[01:59] <CloseYetFar> hmm ok
[02:00] <Afze> to tell you the truth i burned the xubuntu iso on a dvd cause i didnt had a blank cd...
[02:00] <CloseYetFar> if windows is not seeing any of the files, you will not be able to boot off it
[02:00] <Afze> im gonna try burning it on a cd...  you think that could be it?
[02:00] <Afze> hmmmm
[02:01] <CloseYetFar> try with a different kind of cd-r
[02:01] <CloseYetFar> if you have others
[02:01] <CloseYetFar> but not with a cd-rw, they have lots of problems
[02:01] <CloseYetFar> yea try with a different cd-r
[02:01] <Afze> ok, i never use those anyways
[02:02] <CloseYetFar> when you put the ubuntu disk in windows i think it auto runs a intro web page
[02:02] <Afze> ok, so you dont think the kernel being too new could be the problem...  or is it the contrary?
[02:03] <CloseYetFar> so you should be able to explore the files on that disk with windows
[02:03] <Afze> yes, it does on other pcs
[02:03] <Afze> yeah
[02:03] <CloseYetFar> no it looks to me like a hardware problems
[02:03] <CloseYetFar> your cd-rom does not want to read the disk, thats all
[02:04] <CloseYetFar> i have seen this before in older comps
[02:05] <Afze> but its not a cdrom drive problem... i change the drive on the old laptop for the one on this laptop and the same thing happened
[02:06] <CloseYetFar> hmm....
[02:07] <CloseYetFar> do you have any external usb cd-rom drives?
[02:08] <Afze> nope
[02:08] <CloseYetFar> does the old laptop support booting from usb? like do a usb flash drive install
[02:09] <CloseYetFar> i would first try to reburn it on a different cd-r
[02:09] <CloseYetFar> just to see what happens
[02:11] <Afze> i tried to do that... but i could get the usb working for it... do you know a good tutorial for that...   im sucha newbie i could handle the one on the ubuntu documentation
[02:14] <CloseYetFar> try to reburn the cd-r with the alternate installation.
[02:16] <CloseYetFar> like this one xubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[02:16] <Afze> hmm didnt know that
[02:16] <Afze> ok cool ill do it
[02:16] <Afze> thanks
[02:16] <CloseYetFar> hope it works lol
[02:16] <CloseYetFar> np
[02:17] <pteague> i'm thinking of setting up a directory to store my wallpaper, *.desktop files, & various icons in... any suggestions as to whether i should put it in ~/.local or ~/.config ?  i'll softlink them to where ever they end up needing to be later, just wanting a single spot for the various WMs i use
[02:17] <Afze> haha thanks
[02:18] <pteague> pwd
[02:19] <CloseYetFar> pteague i would just create a new dir like ~/.wms and use that
[02:25] <ubuntu_> Hi everyone
[02:26] <ubuntu_> I am having problems with my xubuntu internet connection can someone help me?
[02:26] <ubuntu_> no one here?
[02:27] <forces> what kind of problem?
[02:28] <ubuntu_> well it's a belking usb dongle
[02:29] <ubuntu_> it's being recognized when i type lsusb
[02:29] <ubuntu_> i was wondering if i could install a driver through ndiswrapper?
[02:38] <lelik67> looking for gui for openvpn client on xubuntu. Any suggestions?
[03:08] <trece8> hi
[03:09] <trece8> c
[03:10] <trece8> i have installed xubuntu 9.04 and the linux-rt (the realtime kernel), and it doesn't work
[03:10] <trece8> i can log in graphically, then it shows the mouse but not the menus
[03:11] <trece8> i'm using ircii in a terminal, so it's really hard... i appreciate any help
[03:12] <trece8> can you read me?
[04:25] <MTec007> is there a way to properly remove applications that dont appear in add/remove?
[04:26] <forces> apt-get remove package
[04:26] <forces> as root
[04:26] <genii> Depends on how they were installed
[04:26] <genii> if you did the ./configure make makeinstall method.... try make clean on it
[04:27] <MTec007> thank you both :)
[04:38] <Carlis> hi
[04:38] <Carlis> who can help me ?
[04:40] <Carlis> anybody here ?
[04:40] <Carlis> nobody answer here
[04:42] <Carlis> who can help me ?
[04:42] <Spen12> Can somebody help me, I am getting all kinds of errors in gparted
[04:43] <meatcar> Carlis, what do you need help with?
[04:43] <meatcar> Spen12, what are your errors?
[04:44] <Spen12> last one said cannot complete partition is mounted. It is mounting by itself over and over. It won;t stay unmounted
[04:44] <meatcar> what are you partitioning?
[04:44] <meatcar> are you partitioning your system while youre running it, Spen12 ?
[04:44] <Carlis> When i begin to install xubuntu, I receive the error ubuquity program has closed expectedly
[04:44] <Spen12> my hard drive that has been partitioned before and it worked fine
[04:45] <Spen12> no I'm in live mode right now
[04:46] <Carlis> meatcar can u help me with that error ?
[04:46] <meatcar> checking google.
[04:46] <Carlis> ok
[04:47] <meatcar> Carlis, at what point does it crash? have you tried alternate install? etc.
[04:48] <Spen12> latest error was divice does not exist
[04:48] <Spen12> device*
[04:48] <Carlis> I insert the flash memory and restart the pc
[04:49] <Spen12> it has been running weird anyway, I have a 200GB hdd and it was saying 530TB so not sure what's going on
[04:49] <Carlis> in the desktop, I choose the install icon
[04:49] <Carlis> and I receive the error of ubiquity
[04:50] <Guest33692> hello,
[04:51] <Guest33692> anyone know how to  set up a printer on xfce
[04:51] <Spen12> nope :)
[04:51] <Carlis> can u help me meatcar ?
[04:52] <Spen12> I actually never use xubu I just need a partition editor
[04:52] <Carlis> how can i fix the error with ubiquity ?
[04:55] <meatcar> Spen12, heh, heh. I dont think i can help you there... try google. theyre magic sometimes. jsut get the model of the harddrive.
[04:56] <Spen12> you know anything other than osx that can create a hfs+ partition?
[04:56] <Carlis> meatcar can u help me ?
[04:56] <princedugan> the cups package is broken after upgrade to jaunty, it won't go away, i can't add or remove anything now <http://pastebin.com/d4aaf4e49>
[04:56] <meatcar> sorry my had to reset the router. junky thing.
[04:57] <princedugan> Spen12, I seem to recall that hfs+ is an option in most partition editors for Linux. parted, qtparted, gparted
[04:57] <meatcar> carlis, can you please answer my q again.
[04:58] <Spen12> it will read it but it cant create it in gparted
[04:58] <Carlis> ok
[04:58] <Spen12> I haven't used one that allows you to create it
[04:59] <Carlis> when i begin tgo install xubuntu in the pc I receive the error about ubiquity has closed
[04:59] <Spen12> anybody know one for sure that works? Don't wanna get others to have them not work
[05:00] <Carlis> noboyd can help me ?
[05:00] <zoredache> !ask | Carlis
[05:01] <Spen12> can somebody verify that qtparted can create hfs+?
[05:02] <Carlis> ok
[05:02] <zoredache> I see you are trying to do an install and having problems?  You might try the checking yoru disk, or trying the alternate cd for doing the install
[05:02] <zoredache> Spen12: you probably can create the partition, but I wouldn't be to sure about actually being able to create the fileystem...
[05:03] <Carlis> I am trying to install it through the flash memory
[05:03] <meatcar> a usb key?
[05:03] <Spen12> I used apt-get for qtparted and can't find it. where should it be?
[05:03] <Carlis> Flash memory
[05:03] <meatcar> kde repo probebly
[05:04] <Spen12> it should be installed but I can't find the program
[05:04] <Carlis> ok
[05:05] <meatcar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[05:05] <meatcar> ^^^ Carlis
[05:05] <Carlis> ok
[05:06] <Carlis> Thanks meatcar
[05:06] <Spen12> why can't I find qtparted? Any other parted's? I need to try others
[05:07] <meatcar> Carlis, http://www.jonlee.ca/installing-xubuntu-without-a-cd-drive-the-weekend-project-continued/
[05:07] <meatcar> Spen12, qparted shouldnt differ from gparted exept for the interface.
[05:08] <Spen12> figures, any other I can try though?
[05:08] <meatcar> It should also be in the KDE repositories, i'd believe. I might be wrong about that.
[05:08] <Spen12> that are actually different
[05:08] <meatcar> you wish to format to hsf+?
[05:08] <Spen12> yes
[05:09] <Spen12> OSX disk utility sucks and I need hfs+ for the install
[05:09] <meatcar> are you installing on a mac box?
[05:10] <Spen12> why does that matter?
[05:11] <meatcar> because if you are attempting to dualboot OSX and linux ,you might need to read some of the tutorials for that first. however, if you are setting up a macfileserver, i'd forst set up linux as ext3, and then hfs+ as a separate partition, which we can configure after xfce is going strong.
[05:12] <Spen12> well I have a working XP partition and I can't get the drive working right for a mac one
[05:13] <meatcar> Spen12, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4208841&postcount=2
[05:14] <meatcar> ooooh, thats danger country. youre better off backing up your xp partition, wiping the drive, installing osx, setting up boot camp, then setting up xp.
[05:14] <Spen12> it is saying device doesn't exist/still mounted/location not found when it gets to the part where it should create the filesystem
[05:15] <meatcar> is your hardware config supported by hackintosh? I get the drift you arent sitting in front of a mac.
[05:15] <Spen12> now when it says vfat what exactly does it mean?
[05:16] <meatcar> sorry, i meant OS x86. or whatever they call it
[05:16] <pteague> vfat is fat16, fat32, etc i believe
[05:17] <princedugan> something I've done before is making a dd image of the XP rive then converting it to a virtualbox image. I can't recall the details but I remeber I wouldn't want to do it again, **** windows, it is too much evil to deal with
[05:17] <Spen12> OSx86/Hackintosh/pirate OSX I don't care, but yes that is right. It boots everything w/o errors when it is set to check for them
[05:18] <Spen12> it should work it just says error when it is told to run first aid or erase the drive
[05:19] <meatcar> then you want to back up windows, and proceede mac 1st. its is impossible to format to hfs+ from anything non osx, from what i've read.
[05:20] <Spen12> says fs error. could be related to not having 1024 cylinders, I have read there is something about that, that's necessary on some and not others
[05:20] <meatcar> http://locoteam.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=425154   <<<< exact same problem as yours, i believe.
[05:21] <meatcar> bacicaly, use a partition editor to clean all your partitions off.
[05:21] <meatcar> then install osx.
[05:22] <Spen12> how would I create a backup of my 2 XP copies to have 2 fresh hard drives? One is almost full (40GB) and other has about 30/40GB used (200GB drive)
[05:22] <Spen12> no other drives atm
[05:28] <Spen12> apparently that page served some use after all. System Rescue CD has hfs+ support. I can create it there
[05:28] <Spen12> thanks
[05:28] <meatcar> lol. no problem.
[05:28] <Spen12> I'll try that and see if it works w/o removing XP
[05:29] <princedugan> Spen12: you might also consider installing ubuntu then having OSX and XP as virtual guests. ubuntu plays nicer with existing partitions than XP and OSX
[05:29] <princedugan> oo, missed him
[05:30] <meatcar> he'll be back, maybe.
[05:30] <meatcar> try MemoServ.
[05:36] <pteague> how do i remove applications from the xfce menu?
[05:38] <meatcar> pteague, uninstall them from synaptic, or edit /etc/xdg/xubuntu/menus            thats where mine is....
[05:39] <princedugan> pteague: just from the menu you mean (still have them installed?)
[05:39] <pteague> just from the menu...
[05:42] <pteague> meatcar: is there a way to copy that to ~/ & modify it there?
[05:43] <meatcar> i dont actually know this stuff. try poking around /etc/xdg/menus/ they seem pretty universal. they are the default values, that I believe are auto generated, so you have the mostrecent version availble for editing.
[05:44] <meatcar> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/12/manually-edit-the-xfce-menu/     pteague
[05:46] <pteague> ah, great, thanks :)
[05:47] <meatcar> word of warning, this is a 2006 article. the flie path mentioned there is not availbe for me
[05:51] <pteague> i think i'll copy /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu to ~/.config/menus/xfce-applications.menu as there are several other menus in there
[05:54] <meatcar> also, try xfce4-menueditor
[05:55] <pteague> hmm... that's not available & i even tried xfce-menueditor, xfce4?-menuedit
[05:56] <meatcar> yea, i realized that. they changed quite a bit up with 9.04
[06:11] <slvmchn> hi guys - so i have xubuntu 8.10 and for some reason the 3d performance is real lacklustre - on a prior desktop my ubuntu performance was on par with or better than windows 3d performance on the same hardware, so i'm wondering if maybe it's just the graphics drivers aren't too great? it's an intel 965g with x3100 onboard graphics
[06:11] <slvmchn> i don't even know if this is exactly an ubuntu related issue, i just figured i'd start in here since this is what i'm using
[06:11] <slvmchn> would upgrading to 9.04 make a difference at all?
[06:16] <meatcar> slvmchn, what you are looking for are users with similar experience. I recomend google as a method to solve your problem. I can say nontheless that upgraing may help. search for whether there was an update for your driver for 9.04 / the kernel.
[06:23] <xarcade> hi, i have a problem with system-config-kickstart, in the Package Selection page there's no packages are available for selection, how can i fix this ?
[06:25] <slvmchn> ok meatcar, will do... i realize it's a pretty specific problem that nobody would probably know about unless they had the same hardware... but thanks for your time :-D
[06:29] <slvmchn> hmm wierd, i found a post on ubuntu forums by someone with same chipset/gpu and they said 8.04 they didn't have the problem... i guess i'll try upgrading, hopefully that fixes it...
[06:42] <deekayen> anyone have an idea why my desktop background is showing random images jumbled together from ram instead of my background image?
[06:51] <deekayen> i rebooted from MacOS to Xubuntu
[06:51] <deekayen> and it's just showing random images that are hanging around in RAM
[06:51] <deekayen> http://www.flickr.com/photos/deekayen/3492660523/ is a screenshot
[06:52] <deekayen> i've tried setting different background images, solid color, and running xfdesktop --reload
[06:52] <deekayen> nothing changes on the screen
[06:53] <deekayen> I'm not even sure where to start putting blame - Xorg, Xfce, or Nvidia
[06:53] <deekayen> i guess I can't see my desktop icons either
[06:56] <deekayen> of course I'm not excited about the thought of whacking .config/xfce4
[06:58] <deekayen> so I whacked ~/.config/xfce4/desktop and that didn't fix it...
[07:09] <deekayen> ok... I whacked the entire ~/.config/xfce4 dir and it still didn't fix
[07:10] <deekayen> what else can I try
[07:15] <deekayen> hmm... I'm thinking this is twinview
[08:39] <firestorm> hello  boys
[08:40] <firestorm> i have some problem setting event sounds in 9.04. How i can change login and logout song?
[08:43] <pep> firestorm, applications - system - login window
[08:43] <pep> it's in the accessibility tab
[08:45] <firestorm> thanks pep! it's works!
[08:45] <pep> np
[09:51] <pteague> anybody know what program is run when you do settings -> preferred applications ?
[09:51] <daurnimator> hey all
[09:51] <daurnimator> just upgraded my desktop to 9.04
[09:51] <daurnimator> and it doesn't boot anymore
[09:52] <daurnimator> well, it boots, just doesn't bring up the desktop
[09:52] <daurnimator> said something about not finding an exec file for xfce4, then something about not finding gnome failsafe, so it starts xterm failsafe, and gives me a terminal
[09:53] <pep> pteague:  exo-preferred-applications
[09:53] <R1cochet> pteague: i would imagin the app u select
[09:53] <pteague> pep: ty
[09:53] <pep> pteague:  when you click on "help", this comes up: file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/exo-preferred-applications.html
[09:54] <pteague> ah
[09:54] <pep> always a good tip to click help ;)
[09:54] <pteague> i'm used to running kde & help isn't usually that helpful ;)
[09:55] <pep> :)
[09:55] <pep> daurnimator:  Have you googled your error message?
[09:55] <daurnimator> no
[09:56] <pep> try it out, works wonders ;)
[09:56] <pep> let out the variables though
[09:56] <R1cochet> doesnt it tho pep
[09:56] <pep>  like IDs or your username and stuff like that
[09:57] <R1cochet> i cant tell u how many times ive had to say that to my roommate
[09:57] <daurnimator> ah, well, I ran xfce4-session in the xterm, and everything came up
[09:57] <daurnimator> but, why didn't it do it itself/
[09:57] <pep> did this only happen once? or on every startup?
[10:00] <daurnimator> well, just upgraded
[10:00] <daurnimator> haven't tried restarting again
[10:01] <pep> maybe it was just a single-time bug
[10:02] <daurnimator> well, rebooting noww
[10:05] <daurnimator> same error
[10:05] <daurnimator> "No Exec line in the session file: xfce4. Running the GNOME failsafe session instead."
[10:06] <daurnimator> when I click ok to that: "Could not find the GNOME installation, will try running the 'Failsafe xterm' session."
[10:07] <daurnimator> maybe this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-utils/+bug/354204
[10:17] <pep> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7180510
[10:17] <pep> you seem to have found the correct bug
[10:46] <ruadh> Hi all
[11:07] <LukaszJ> Hello all
[11:08] <LukaszJ> One question: I wonder if Xubuntu Jaunty has the same bunch of new features as the Ubuntu one. Asking that, because, I can't really see the notification tooltips.
[11:09] <LukaszJ> I've heard There are integrated into the system now, at least on Ubuntu they are.
[11:15] <SiDi> hi
[11:17] <Slonkie> Hello SiDi !
[11:18] <SiDi> Heya Slonkie :)
[11:18] <rakudave> i have a problem with gwibber, it freezes every time it updates it's feed... does anyone know a fix?
[11:19]  * SiDi doesn't.
[11:20] <rakudave> shame... gwibber works fine on ubuntu, but on the (older) xubuntu machine, it just won't
[11:22] <SiDi> !gwibber
[11:22] <SiDi> !cookies
[11:22] <rakudave> lol
[11:22] <SiDi> !info gwibber
[11:22] <SiDi> aah, for gnome
[11:23] <SiDi> what xubuntu version ?
[11:23] <rakudave> yeah I know, but it's the best one out thee... I'll just have to find another one then...
[11:23] <rakudave> jaunty
[11:24] <SiDi> Run it in console please
[11:24] <SiDi> and make it crash
[11:24] <SiDi> and paste the output at paste.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <LukaszJ> Sorry guys. Do you know anything on that notification system on Xubuntu? Is it a typical GNOME feature, thus Xubuntu didn't include it in the newest release?
[11:26] <SiDi> LukaszJ: actually we lacked time for testing it
[11:26] <SiDi> you can either install xfce4-notifyd or notify-osd from now on
[11:26] <SiDi> they're both "stable"
[11:27] <SiDi> i'm using notify-osd here and i'm very happy with it
[11:27] <LukaszJ> Thank you Sidi
[11:27]  * SiDi downloads gwibber. Will take ages.
[11:27] <cougarten> good to know :)
[11:27] <SiDi> oh btw, we need testers and feedback :p
[11:27] <SiDi> so chose one (notify-osd or xfce4-notifyd) use it extensively
[11:27] <rakudave> SiDi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/162727/ - It throws an exception... no wonder it freezes ^^
[11:27] <LukaszJ> I wasn't sure if it was included by default or just external install
[11:27] <SiDi> and please drop an email on the xubuntu mailing lists
[11:28] <LukaszJ> SiDi: You got it
[11:28] <SiDi> LukaszJ: Cody didnt want to include it because we didn't have much time for testing
[11:28] <LukaszJ> Ah...ok
[11:28] <SiDi> We need feedback (ie. does it lag / crash, are there missing features ?)
[11:28] <LukaszJ> I'm going to do some testing on it then
[11:28] <SiDi> I'll work on notify-osd as soon as I have the time. For instance we don't have the volume notifications at the moment.
[11:28] <LukaszJ> Thanks again
[11:29] <cougarten> you need testing on everything?
[11:29] <SiDi> we need user feedback on the notification servers
[11:29] <SiDi> tell us which you prefer so we dont include the other one :P
[11:29] <LukaszJ> Ok
[11:29] <cougarten> xfce4-notifyd or notify-osd?
[11:29] <SiDi> Yeh
[11:29] <cougarten> k
[11:29] <SiDi> xfce4-notifyd is very new though
[11:31]  * SiDi configures gwibber with his facebook account !
[11:31] <SiDi> rakudave: did you google this error / check launchpad for known bugs by the way ?
[11:31] <cougarten> I installed Ubuntu through Wubi or something (I think it still boots off the stick but uses grub, because I wasn't able to make it boot from USB before). Do I have to reinstall it with the Xubuntu Wubi? Well guess I'll just check if it takes the Xubuntu and alse reinstall...
[11:32] <rakudave> SiDi: I did, but to no avail...
[11:32] <cougarten> is there a comparison between Ubuntu and Xubuntu somewhere?
[11:33] <SiDi> cougarten: you can install xubuntu with one command line ;)
[11:33] <SiDi> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:34] <SiDi> if i had to compare, i'd say xubuntu is (much) faster and more responsive, but ubuntu has a few more features (for the moment :p)
[11:34] <cougarten> and it uninstalls the ubuntu desktop than? great
[11:34] <rakudave> cougarten: no, you can run them along side
[11:35] <SiDi> rakudave: i suggest you report a bug on launchpad with the trace
[11:35] <rakudave> SiDi: ok I'll do that, thanks for taking the time
[11:36] <SiDi> cougarten: it doesnt remove the other one
[11:36] <SiDi> you'll have both, and you'll be able to switch at the login screen
[11:36] <cougarten> rakudave: so I just change the startup apps?
[11:36] <SiDi> with the 'session' button
[11:36] <cougarten> ah
[11:50] <LukaszJ> If I install notify-osd and xfce4-notifyd all together, wouldn't they conflict?
[12:09] <SiDi> They will
[12:10] <SiDi> only install one at a time
[12:10] <SiDi> it'll also remove notification-daemon that is installed by default
[12:16] <LukaszJ> If I'm allowed to ask one more thing
[12:16] <SiDi> you're not
[12:16] <SiDi> :P
[12:16] <LukaszJ> Are they universal for all the xubuntu apps, except the volume manager?
[12:17] <SiDi> What do you mean ?
[12:18] <LukaszJ> I'm wondering if they will work for all the apps, so I don't have to install any 3rd plugins?
[12:18] <SiDi> It'll work the same as now
[12:18] <SiDi> Some apps send notifications, some don't
[12:19] <LukaszJ> True. So, they will work for the ones that do, right?
[12:20] <SiDi> Yeh
[12:20] <SiDi> for instance pidgin / exaile / emesene's libnotify plugins will work the same way
[12:20] <SiDi> (anyways most apps have been patched to have a better behaviour with notify-osd)
[12:21] <LukaszJ> Ok
[12:22] <LukaszJ> last question: Is a restart or logout necessary to make them work after the install?
[12:26] <LukaszJ> Sorry if that was basic
[12:38] <SiDi> its not :)
[12:38] <SiDi> type killall notification-daemon && notify-osd & exit in a console
[12:39] <SiDi> then open another one and type : notify-osd -i notification-message-email Hello "A kitten has sent you an email"
[12:40] <SiDi> notify-send for the second command * :P
[12:56] <thaihoa> hello
[12:57] <thaihoa> some one can help me, plz.
[13:01] <SiDi> hi
[13:01] <SiDi> tell us your problem and we might be able to
[13:04] <thaihoa> hello SiDi
[13:04] <thaihoa> I need some information about terminal
[13:04] <thaihoa> I'm a new guy in Linux
[13:04] <SiDi> Tell me ;)
[13:05] <thaihoa> and my pc can't play mp3
[13:05] <SiDi> Alright
[13:05] <thaihoa> it request Codec
[13:05] <SiDi> you're under Xubuntu, right ?
[13:05] <thaihoa> yes
[13:06] <SiDi> Ok, we're going to install all the codecs you should ever need then
[13:06] <SiDi> !medibuntu
[13:07] <SiDi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[13:07] <SiDi> See here thaihoa
[13:07] <thaihoa> thanks, I'm doing.
[13:07] <thaihoa> ok
[13:07] <SiDi> we'll need you to add a source of software. Medibuntu is used to put all the things (like codecs) that are not legal in every country (because they are copyrighted, etc)
[13:09] <thaihoa> so, how about Listen Music Player that is included in Xunbuntu
[13:09] <SiDi> the players can play free formats by default
[13:09] <thaihoa> I like its interface
[13:09] <SiDi> but mp3 is copyrighted, we can't ship it by default
[13:09] <thaihoa> oh
[13:09] <thaihoa> i see
[13:09] <SiDi> did you add medibuntu to your repository as explained on the link above ?
[13:10] <thaihoa> so, I have too add another program
[13:10] <thaihoa> yes, i did
[13:10] <thaihoa> but, that web get me many program
[13:11] <SiDi> Ok
[13:11] <thaihoa> which of them should i choose
[13:11] <thaihoa> Mplayer or Xine?
[13:11] <SiDi> these are different players
[13:11] <SiDi> thaihoa: drop the players for now. We're installing codecs, not players ;)
[13:12] <R1cochet> y not use totem?
[13:12] <R1cochet> w/ xine backend
[13:12] <thaihoa> oh, i see
[13:12] <thaihoa> a question more
[13:13] <R1cochet> i use totem for all movies w/ xine backend
[13:13] <SiDi> thaihoa: if you added the repository as stated on that web page above, now type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras"
[13:14] <thaihoa> I'm using Nettop Acer aspire one too. And it use Linux Linpus base on Ferdora 8
[13:14] <thaihoa> Mplayer or Xine is better?
[13:14] <SiDi> Dunno.
[13:14] <SiDi> Are you running Fedora or Xubuntu ? :/
[13:14] <R1cochet> Laughing Out Loud
[13:16] <thaihoa> now, I'm using PC under Xubuntu
[13:16] <SiDi> Okey :P
[13:16] <thaihoa> so, thank SiDi a lot.
[13:16] <SiDi> thaihoa: if you added the repository as stated on that web page above, now type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras"
[13:16] <SiDi> do this then
[13:16] <SiDi> it'll install all the codecs
[13:16] <SiDi> and then your player should work ok
[13:17] <SiDi> I'm overlagging
[13:18] <thaihoa> wow, I don't sure I know clearly about my Xubuntu release. How to know that? Plz
[13:19] <R1cochet> i prefer totem because i like the gui more. i dont like that the controls for mplayer are in a seperate dialog than the video playback itself. i like to be in full screen mode w/ controls
[13:19] <SiDi> thaihoa: lsb_release -a ?
[13:19] <SiDi> R1cochet: +1
[13:20] <SiDi> vlc and mplayer's gui are the antithesis of ergonomy
[13:20] <R1cochet> adversly u can look in system monitor
[13:20] <thaihoa> I've just typed the line above and it tell me Jaunty
[13:21] <SiDi> 9.04 then :p
[13:21]  * SiDi goes take a shower !
[13:21] <thaihoa> but some error happen
[13:28] <R1cochet> what error
[14:28] <R1cochet> if i want to upgrabe libxine, can i just dl the .deb and install on top of old? or do i need to remove old version first?
[14:35] <SiDi> install ontop is ok
[14:41] <R1cochet> thank you
[14:45] <SiDi> ~O>
[15:00] <LukaszJ1> Hello
[15:00] <LukaszJ1> How can I edit some the xfce4 menu?
[15:00] <SiDi> hey*
[15:01] <LukaszJ1> SiDi: BTW, I installed "osd-notify" and it wouldn't work with pidgin
[15:01] <LukaszJ1> Same for the "xfce4-notifyd".
[15:02] <LukaszJ1> Pidgin still uses libnotify, so I disabled it but it didn't make any change.
[15:03] <SiDi> Pidgin uses libnotify, and notify-osd is a libnotify server
[15:03] <SiDi> reenable your libnotify plugin
[15:03] <LukaszJ1> Ok
[15:04] <LukaszJ1> So, now I see there are basically the same. right?
[15:08] <LukaszJ1> What about "xfce-notify". Does it callaborate with Pidgin?
[15:09] <SiDi> They dont "collaborate" with apps
[15:09] <SiDi> There is a notification library : libnotify
[15:09] <LukaszJ1> Got you
[15:09] <SiDi> xfce4-notifyd / notify-osd / notification-daemon / notify-sharp are servers that are used to show notifications
[15:09] <SiDi> according to this lib
[15:09] <SiDi> and the applications use methods of this library in order to popup notifications
[15:09] <SiDi> (but all the servers dont have the same features ;) )
[15:10] <SiDi> you can use the notify-send command to spawn notifications from console
[15:14] <SiDi> Damn
[15:14] <SiDi> no more sound on the pc :D
[15:14] <LukaszJ1> :)
[15:14] <LukaszJ1> Happens ;)
[15:15] <Xcell> How to enable cube?... have compize and settings already loaded.
[15:16] <LukaszJ1> Sorry if it's out of topic, but I need to add some lines to an executable in Xfce menu so it starts with this given parameter. Easiest way to do that?
[15:16] <LukaszJ1> Xcell: IMO; Install some compiz settings manager
[15:16] <Xcell> already have..and cube is enabled
[15:17] <LukaszJ1> Xcell: There is one, in the repositories
[15:17] <LukaszJ1> Xcell: Have a key binded somethere?
[15:18] <Xcell> ya.. i have to use the k/b to make it flip...but it reverts to 2 work stations
[15:19] <Xcell> ill work on it...ive used ubuntu for 3 years now... this xubuntu is weird stuff...have a good day
[15:20] <SiDi> LukaszJ1: copy /usr/share/applications/youapp.desktop
[15:20] <SiDi> to .local/share/applications
[15:20] <SiDi> and customize the exec/tryexec lines
[15:20] <LukaszJ1> Xcell: You can set the workastation number in the settings manager
[15:20] <Xcell> I have... but it keeps going back to 2  from setting it to 4
[15:21] <LukaszJ1> Yes, happened to me too.
[15:21] <Xcell> maybe i need to re-install..brb
[15:24] <LukaszJ1> SiDi: Sorry, I didn't get it
[15:24] <LukaszJ1> SiDi: Can you please explain it to me step by step?
[15:25] <SiDi> Lets say you wanna modify foo.desktop (for the app foo)
[15:26] <LukaszJ1> Ok
[15:26] <SiDi> cp /usr/share/applications/foo.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/foo.desktop && mousepad ~/.local/share/applications/foo.desktop
[15:26] <SiDi> and then you can modify it
[15:26] <LukaszJ1> Ah..guess I got you: You want me to create a normaql launcher on Desktop?
[15:26] <SiDi> no :P
[15:27] <SiDi> the .desktop files are  launchers
[15:27] <LukaszJ1> Right
[15:27] <SiDi> if you want to modify one (thats what you wanna do, right ?), then copy it to .local and then modify it
[15:27] <LukaszJ1> But, my app is in usr/bin
[15:28] <LukaszJ1> Sorry about being dumb, but I still don't get it all :)
[15:28] <SiDi> you cant modify the executable
[15:28] <SiDi> you wanna doo "foo -parameter" instead of "foo" right ?
[15:28] <LukaszJ1> I need to edit the Skype command, to make it start wit an additional parameter by default
[15:28] <SiDi> then modify the skype launcher
[15:29] <SiDi> add your parameter to the launcher
[15:29] <SiDi> :P
[15:29] <LukaszJ1> Guess now it's clearer :)
[15:29] <LukaszJ1> Let me try
[15:29] <J_Litewski> i'm a proud Guinea Pig Grandparent!
[15:29]  * LukaszJ1 is still learning Linux
[15:30] <SiDi> J_Litewski: congratulations
[15:30] <J_Litewski> ty
[15:30] <J_Litewski> she was pregnant for bloody ages
[15:30] <J_Litewski> over 2 months
[15:30] <SiDi> Oo
[15:33] <SiDi>   9877B/s 48min 57s
[15:33] <SiDi> :'( :'(
[15:34] <Besogon> what is mean when I had done make and I have string like: Not rule for build wlc_led.o???
[15:34] <LukaszJ1> SiDi: Sorry once again: Can you give me any hint on how to modify the launcher?
[15:34] <SiDi> Modify the Exec and Try Exec lines
[15:34] <SiDi> im not sure myself how it works so i cant help you much more :p
[15:35] <Besogon> ?
[15:35] <SiDi> i usually write shell scripts and i put them randomly on my pc: D
[15:35] <LukaszJ1> ehat is "exac"?
[15:35] <LukaszJ1> great :)
[15:35] <SiDi> exec / tryexec lines
[15:35] <SiDi> Besogon: depends on what you're compiling obviously
[15:36] <Besogon> SiDi, I have to compiling driver for Wireless LAN PCI Adapter.
[15:37] <Besogon> SiDi, What is CROSS_COMPILE variable?
[15:37] <SiDi> How would i know ? :/
[15:38] <Besogon> SiDi, So do I. Bad HowTo
[16:12] <Lusule> hi there, i'm thinking of upgrading to jaunty from intrepid.  I usually use the aptitude package manager to manage installs, so I'm trying to find out how I use it to do the upgrade as well, rather than mix package managers.  Am I correct in thinking I go through /etc/apt/sources.list changing 'Intrepid' for 'Jaunty' then do sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade ?
[16:13] <LukaszJ1> I guess it's "sudo aptitude dist-upgrade" no, "full-upgrade".
[16:14] <SiDi> update upgrade, then change the intrepid to jaunty
[16:14] <Lusule> full-upgrade is how i do normal upgrades
[16:14] <SiDi> then dist-upgrade
[16:14] <SiDi> then update * then dist-upgrade sorry
[16:14] <Lusule> and aptitude --help doesn't list dist-upgrade
[16:14] <SiDi> its there
[16:15] <SiDi> auto completion said so
[16:15] <Lusule> okay thanks
[16:15] <Lusule> so assuming my intrepid is 100% up to date, now i change sources to jaunty
[16:15] <Lusule> thanks
[17:28] <swoody> hey all :)
[17:29] <swoody> so is xfce really lower on CPU usage than Gnome and KDE, or is more of a memory/graphics thing?
[17:46] <SiDi> Much lower RAM i'd say
[17:46] <SiDi> and also, since its shipped without compiz, less gpu trouble with default install
[17:46] <SiDi> And its also lighter for the cpu of course :)
[18:02] <cougarten> hi, why do my internal vomlume not show up anywhere (I can mount them with nautilus and they show up there too)
[18:07] <SiDi> nautilus and xubuntu ? huh :o
[18:07] <SiDi> you mean they dont show on the desktop or in thunar ?
[18:09] <cougarten> yes, just checked with natilus if it's a system wide problem or a xubuntu one
[18:10] <SiDi> Well, im not sure but i think nautilus/thunar both use gvfs to mount the drivers
[18:10] <Josep23912> hi, im haing some problems with xubuntu, installed it in a vm
[18:10] <SiDi> drives *
[18:10] <Josep23912> and i get no sound
[18:11] <Josep23912> i did use the ubuntu dvd, and then apt-get intalled 'xubuntu-desktop'
[18:11] <SiDi> Josep23912: host and vm ?
[18:11] <Josep23912> ive checked gstreamer is installed, so is alsa
[18:11] <Josep23912> sound works fine on the host
[18:11] <Josep23912> just inside the vm
[18:11] <Josep23912> im having troubles
[18:11] <SiDi> cougarten: i'd recommand you to add your drives to /etc/fstab
[18:11] <cougarten> mounted drives show up in thunar aswell, but how to mount them easily?
[18:11] <SiDi> cougarten: this way you'll never have to bother with automount of internal HDDs
[18:11] <cougarten> SiDi, yea, thought about that too
[18:12] <Josep23912> nothing shows up in /dev/dsp8
[18:12] <Josep23912> nothing shows up in /dev/dsp*
[18:12] <SiDi> Josep23912: what is your host / what is your  vm ?
[18:12] <Josep23912> it's a macosx host, using vmware fusion
[18:12] <SiDi> cougarten: they show up in thunar but dont mount when you click them ? I'm not getting the problem, excuse-me
[18:12] <Josep23912> ubuntu with gnome worked fine
[18:13] <Josep23912> so i'm kind of at a loss, why xubuntu won't :S
[18:13] <SiDi> Josep23912: open a console please
[18:13] <SiDi> and type ps aux | grep pulse
[18:13] <Josep23912> already open :)
[18:13] <SiDi> tell me if you have something (apart froma line ending by grep pulse)
[18:13] <Josep23912> root@ubuntuvm:/home/ubuntuvm# ps aux | grep pulse
[18:13] <Josep23912> root      4432  0.0  0.1   7524   900 pts/0    S+   02:43   0:00 grep puls
[18:14] <SiDi> ok
[18:14] <Josep23912> no, it's not running
[18:14] <SiDi> open xfce4-mixer now please
[18:14] <Josep23912> that's just the grep commands :(
[18:14] <Josep23912> GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem.
[18:14] <SiDi> :D
[18:14] <Josep23912> im wondering maybe what i didn't install
[18:15] <Josep23912> sounds like a simple package
[18:15] <Josep23912> i havn
[18:15] <Josep23912> 't got for some reason
[18:15] <Josep23912> ive got the good plugins too btw
[18:15] <Josep23912> for gstreamer installed
[18:15] <SiDi> install gstreamer alsa package :)
[18:15] <SiDi> i think its because you had an ubuntu install
[18:15] <SiDi> they use pulseaudio now
[18:15] <SiDi> are you using jaunty btw ?
[18:16] <Josep23912> yes i am
[18:16] <Josep23912> gstreamer0.10-alsa is already installed
[18:16] <SiDi> plugins-base and plugins-bad too ?
[18:16] <SiDi> otherwise, try to "sudo apt-get instal xubuntu-restricted-extras"
[18:17] <SiDi> or "sudo apt-get build-dep xfce4-mixer"
[18:17] <Josep23912> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base, installed... gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad also installed
[18:17] <Josep23912> okay
[18:18] <Josep23912> apt-get build-dep xfce4-mixer wants to install a bunch of X dependencies
[18:18] <Josep23912> ah and libgstreamer wtf
[18:18] <Josep23912> that wasn't installed hahaha
[18:18] <Josep23912> wait no
[18:18] <Josep23912> they are dev packages
[18:18] <Josep23912> libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev libgstreamer0.10-dev libgtk2.0-dev
[18:19] <SiDi> :P
[18:19] <SiDi> ah damn
[18:19] <Josep23912> i would have thought that wont fix it
[18:19] <SiDi> it wont :X
[18:19] <SiDi> dev packages are headers for compiling
[18:19] <SiDi> reinstall xfce4-mixer, it should also reinstall the deps
[18:20] <Josep23912> http://rafb.net/p/9uSIUM42.html SiDi
[18:20] <Josep23912> those are the deps
[18:20] <Josep23912> no loss i suppose
[18:20] <SiDi> these are all dev files
[18:20] <SiDi> build-dep wasnt the good command ^^
[18:21] <Josep23912> this sounds better:
[18:21] <Josep23912> http://rafb.net/p/rNhPk446.html
[18:21] <SiDi> got sound now ?
[18:21] <Josep23912> im going to try
[18:21] <Josep23912> that
[18:21] <SiDi> either, reinstall xfce4-mixer and it should get its deps
[18:21] <Josep23912> okay
[18:21] <cougarten> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[18:22] <cougarten> thats my floppy drive, right?
[18:22] <Josep23912> yep
[18:22] <SiDi> Yeh
[18:22] <Josep23912> who has floppy drives these days lolz
[18:22] <cougarten> how to prevent it from automounting? just outcomment it with #?
[18:22] <SiDi> the bios thinks he has one :D
[18:22] <SiDi> cougarten: yes
[18:22] <Josep23912> lol that is strange :P
[18:23] <cougarten> Josep23912, PCs who need to run xubuntu to be somehow usable
[18:23] <Josep23912> i like xubuntu cos its faster than gnome and kde
[18:23] <Josep23912> good for a vm :)
[18:23] <Josep23912> but so would openbox be
[18:23] <SiDi> yeh but openbox is less userfriendly :D
[18:25] <Josep23912> ppft i dont need friendly
[18:25] <Josep23912> i pretty much only use it to fap
[18:25] <Josep23912> jk
[18:26] <Josep23912> nah it's handy for building packages for ubuntu
[18:26] <Josep23912> and most of the time im in console
[18:26] <cougarten> what <type>  and <options> do I have to set for my internal drives in fstab?
[18:26] <SiDi> cougarten: type is the filesystem
[18:26] <cougarten> okey, type is ntfs / fat23
[18:26] <SiDi> ext3/vfat/ntfs/ext4
[18:27] <cougarten> vfat, good
[18:27] <SiDi> and for the options, auto,rw,user,async if i'm not wrong
[18:27] <SiDi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/162989/
[18:27] <SiDi> i also have some ext4 parts but still unused ^^
[18:30] <cougarten> whats <dump>  and <pass> ?
[18:30] <SiDi> dunno
[18:30] <SiDi> !fstab
[18:32] <cougarten> okey, thanks
[18:32] <cougarten> pass is the check at boot
[18:50] <Josep23912> xtmnx:( SiDi still no sound
[18:50] <Josep23912> ubuntuvm@ubuntuvm:~$ alsamixer
[18:50] <Josep23912> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[18:53] <Josep23912> hmm
[18:53] <Josep23912> just says null output
[18:53] <Josep23912> there's no outputs
[18:53] <Josep23912> it thinks
[18:54] <SiDi> try alsaconf
[18:54] <SiDi> it sounds like it doesnt recognise the card sound :/
[18:54] <SiDi> but why xubuntu and not ubuntu ? :[
[18:54] <Josep23912> mm not installed, do i need to install alsa-tools
[18:55] <Josep23912> i duno
[18:55] <SiDi> alsa-utils
[18:55] <Josep23912> already installed
[18:55] <Josep23912> still no alsaconf
[18:55] <Josep23912> binary
[18:56] <Balrog_> Hi
[18:56] <SiDi> type alsaconf Josep23912
[18:56] <SiDi> it should tell you the name of the package
[18:56] <SiDi> hi Balrog_
[18:56] <Balrog_> I just upgraded from 8.10 to 9.02 and the system won't boot now with kernel 2.8.11
[18:56] <Josep23912> https://bugs.launchpad.net/alsa-utils/+bug/29597
[18:56] <Balrog_> 2.6.28.11 *
[18:57]  * SiDi hides ! :x
[18:57] <Balrog_> boots fine with 2.6.27-x
[18:57] <Balrog_> what could be going on?
[18:57] <SiDi> Balrog_: your hardware not recognised anymore :) is it a very old pc ,
[18:57] <Balrog_> (it just freezes in the boot screen) ... this is a 500MHz Compaq Armada P |||
[18:57] <Besogon> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.27-9  linux-headers-2.6.27-9-genericDoes it mean that I have 2 kernel-headers?
[18:57] <Balrog_> so I need to use 2.6.27, or do I need to get a special kernel?
[18:59] <SiDi> Balrog_: the new kernel might be missing modules needed by your pc. I suggest you try #ubuntu or #ubuntu-kernel and ask for help there
[18:59] <Josep23912> hmm so without alsaconfig :(
[18:59] <SiDi> Besogon: no it doesnt
[18:59] <SiDi> Josep23912: i'm running out of ideas ^_^
[18:59] <Josep23912> true,
[18:59] <SiDi> Josep23912: lsmod ?
[18:59] <Josep23912> im running out of ideas too
[18:59] <SiDi> show me what modules you got at the moment
[19:00] <Balrog_> SiDi: ?
[19:00] <Besogon> SiDi, where is my kernel headers?
[19:00] <Balrog_> ok
[19:00] <SiDi> Besogon: I think its the -generic one
[19:00] <Josep23912> http://rafb.net/p/bcDhK585.html
[19:00] <Josep23912> is my lsmod
[19:00] <Slonkie> Anybody know which packages i need to make compiz-fusion work?
[19:01] <Besogon> SiDi, thanks. And one quastion else. /usr/lokal/src What for that dir?
[19:02] <SiDi> Besogon: dunno
[19:03] <SiDi> There is a file somewhere on the web
[19:03] <SiDi> with explanations for every folder name
[19:03] <SiDi> but i cant find it T_T
[19:03] <Josep23912> SiDi: i just tried installing gnome
[19:03] <Josep23912> it wants  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base-apps gstreamer0.10-schroedinger gstreamer0.10-tools
[19:03] <Josep23912> so ill try installing them
[19:04] <SiDi> okey
[19:04] <SiDi> good idea
[19:05] <J_Litewski> HA! got a menu bar :)
[19:05] <SiDi> hey J_Litewski :p
[19:07] <Besogon> SiDi, DUNNO. Do you think I know such word like dunno? Only lingvo has helped me. hm...
[19:09] <J_Litewski> python is a hell of a lot easier without a GUI builder
[19:09] <J_Litewski> it's like Java
[19:09] <J_Litewski> but with killer bunnies and Holy Hand 'Nades
[19:10] <SiDi> Besogon: it means "I don't know", sorry /X
[19:13] <Besogon> SiDi, dont worry. I will remember that word
[19:14] <pcfreak30> http://pastebin.com/m49b5794d
[19:14] <pcfreak30> could someone look at that dmesg dump
[19:15] <pcfreak30> my xubuntu is not loading normal
[19:17] <pcfreak30> anyone
[19:17] <SiDi> Not me :D
[19:17] <SiDi> I don't understand dmesg dumps :/
[19:18] <pcfreak30> well i need help, and it happened during a hybernate
[19:18] <pcfreak30> now my bios gave a error, but booted
[19:18] <pcfreak30> when i wen to recovery, gui loaded
[19:18] <pcfreak30> weird
[19:18] <Slonkie> Anybody know which packages i need to make compiz-fusion work?
[19:19] <pcfreak30> cinda funny. xubuntu can hardly help anyone. ubuntu can help ppl, cause they are flooded with questions
[19:20] <pcfreak30> can't
[19:21] <SiDi> pcfreak30: we're helping for xfce specific issues.
[19:22] <SiDi> I don't know anything about dmesg
[19:22] <SiDi> the very technical questions find more answers on the forum
[19:23] <SiDi> Slonkie: ^http://paste.ubuntu.com/163038/
[19:24] <Slonkie> hmm thanks
[19:25] <Josep23912> SiDi: imma try the kubuntu disk and see where it goes
[19:26] <Josep23912> but for now im going to bed
[19:26] <Slonkie> hmm i do you know where to configure compiz, SiDi ?
[19:27] <SiDi> install compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:27] <J_Litewski> hmmm... I can't get the menubar to stay in the correct window
[19:36] <Slonkie> hmm after installing those compiz packages, am i suppose to enable it somewhere?
[19:38] <SiDi> compiz --replace &
[19:39] <Slonkie> Thanks.
[19:39] <Slonkie> Does it automaticly work now, then?
[19:48] <SiDi> What do you mean ?
[19:51] <Slonkie> wow compiz is a little too fancy for me.
[19:52] <SiDi> I didn't try it for a while :O
[19:52] <Slonkie> Anyway it's just useless anyway
[20:12] <Salix_> I use Xubuntu 8.04. Is it normal that the updater offers me to upgrade to 8.10 instead of 9.04?
[20:13] <Slonkie> Yes, you have to upgrade to 8.10 and then upgrade to 9.04 :)
[20:14] <SiDi> Yes Salix_
[20:15] <Salix_> Ahm... so it's on purpose. Thanks.
[20:15] <SiDi> Yeh
[20:15] <SiDi> we cant maintain migration scripts for all versions
[20:17] <Salix_> But LTS to LTS will be provided, won't it?
[20:17] <SiDi> Yes
[20:19] <Salix_> The next LTS will be in 2010 sometime, right?
[20:20] <BSE> 9.10 should be LTS
[20:20] <Balrog_> yeah, 10.04 I believe
[20:20] <Balrog_> ahh ... so it's 9.10 ... that's better.
[20:20] <BSE> Koala :)
[20:22] <SiDi> 10.04 lts
[20:36] <Salix_> I hesitate to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 (and to 9.04). Is there any good reason to consider doing it? I mean in general?
[20:53] <R1cochet> a jackelope is cooler than a heron
[20:55] <artistxe> yes. but Hardy is cooler than "Jaunty"
[20:56] <SiDi> meh
[20:58] <artistxe> What about Jazzy Jackelope . or even Juicy Jackelope. ?
[20:58] <artistxe> for my problems it was more like Jerky or even Jokey
[21:01] <artistxe> not at the fault of the OS . more like the idiots at ATI
[21:02] <R1cochet> get nvidia next time
[21:02] <R1cochet> their not canadian
[21:29] <meatcar> does anyone know how i can write a script to execute a command in the terminal at startup?
[21:35] <Lusule> hi guys, i just upgrade to jaunty.  I've been using bitlbee in IRSSI, but since I upgrade, I've got the error 'unable to connect to localhost port 6667: connection refused'  any ideas why?
[21:37] <S0210> In "update manager" for the "check" button I receive the following message (partly hu, partly en):
[21:37] <S0210> Sikertelen letöltés: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:37] <S0210> Sikertelen letöltés: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Rele... Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:37] <S0210> Sikertelen letöltés: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Relea... Unable to find expected entry web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:37] <S0210> Néhány index fájl letöltése meghiúsult, ezeket mellőzöm vagy régi változatukat használom.
[21:38] <S0210> I think the same stops me from upgrading to 8.10
[21:45] <S0210> The exact message I get if I start upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 is following
[21:45] <S0210> W:Sikertelen letöltés: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:45] <S0210> , W:Sikertelen letöltés: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-updates/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:45] <S0210> , W:Sikertelen letöltés: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[21:45] <S0210> , E:Néhány index fájl letöltése meghiúsult, ezeket mellőzöm vagy régi változatukat használom.
[21:45] <S0210> Any idea?
[21:46] <R1cochet> how come i can create an archive of a .iso file? i can for almost all other files i have
[21:46] <R1cochet> cant*
[21:47] <Slonkie> .iso is an archive
[21:48] <R1cochet> ok
[21:48] <Slonkie> :-P
[21:48] <artistxe> :D
[21:48] <R1cochet> then how can i compress it?
[21:48] <R1cochet> rar it up
[21:48] <artistxe> ???
[21:48] <Slonkie> unpack the content and do whatever compressing you wan't to?
[21:48] <R1cochet> i need to turn it into a .7z compressed file
[21:49] <artistxe> _________________________
[21:49] <artistxe> unpack it and 7zip it then
[21:49] <R1cochet> i cant zip it as a .iso?
[21:50] <artistxe> I do not think so. and why would you want to. ?
[21:50] <R1cochet> so i can up it
[21:50] <artistxe> it is already compressed.
[21:50] <artistxe> I would guess it would be same size ( or even larger) if you tried to make it smaller
[21:50] <R1cochet> damn it
[21:51] <artistxe> R1cochet, what sort of image are you uploading anyway ?
[21:51] <R1cochet> but u can rar iso files in windows and they are smaller
[21:51] <R1cochet> a game
[21:51] <artistxe> don't know about windows.
[21:52] <artistxe> anyway. there is a package you can install that gives archiving abilities ( more of them) to Ubuntu
[21:52] <florian_> hi there
[21:52] <R1cochet> archive manager?
[21:52] <R1cochet> i have that
[21:52] <florian_> can anybody please see if he/she knows the solution for the following
[21:53] <florian_> i've just changed from ubuntu to xubuntu but i don't find my other partitions to mount in thunar
[21:53] <artistxe> R1cochet, do not have an iso here to test with ( my disks are in other local)  did you try renaming file and then doing ?
[21:53] <florian_> usb stick is recognized however
[21:53] <florian_> and mounted automatically
[21:53] <Slonkie> You need to mount your other partitions.
[21:53] <R1cochet> no i havent tried to rename it
[21:54] <florian_> @slonkie and how to?
[21:54] <R1cochet> will do but id rather not have to if i dont
[22:15] <Hezy> Strange thing: after installing digiKam I found that Konqueror was also installed as a dependency. So far so good. But now I see that some of the programs (like AbiWord and Pidgin) started to use Konqueror to open their help, although Firefox is still set as the preferred web browser.
[22:23] <Hezy> I asked about it in the ubuntu forum, but got no answer. so maybe someone here knows what's the problem
[22:39] <avvay> Hezy, is xdg-open prefer konqueror too?
[22:40] <lukinfore> lol
[23:57] <pteague> is there an app of some sort that will detect what kind of media is in a file regardless of the extension?