| LaserJock | anybody have a fresh Jaunty VM laying around? | 01:30 |
|---|---|---|
| LaserJock | I need somebody to install gcompris (a bit of a download) and see if it segfaults | 01:32 |
| hggdh | server or desktop? | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | desktop | 01:51 |
| hggdh | sorry... only desktop I have is the real mccoy | 01:51 |
| LaserJock | well, that'd work to if you wouldn't mind | 01:52 |
| hggdh | k | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | it just seems like I'm the only one not experiencing this bug | 01:52 |
| hggdh | from the standard repos? | 01:52 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:53 |
| LaserJock | just install gcompris | 01:54 |
| hggdh | just gcompris, -data *-sound? | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | and then run gcompris from a terminal | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 01:54 |
| LaserJock | and all I need is if it segfaults or not at startup | 01:54 |
| hggdh | just 45M download, should take a few seconds | 01:54 |
| * andol also does an apt-get install gcompris... | 01:54 | |
| andol | If the computer crashes, I'll take it as a sign of it being bed time :) | 01:54 |
| hggdh | heh | 01:55 |
| hggdh | k, will run now | 01:55 |
| hggdh | no sigseg | 01:56 |
| andol | LaserJock: For me gcompris starts without any problems. Anything you want me to test inside the application? | 01:56 |
| LaserJock | hggdh: oh, I need to know if you have python-numeric installed | 01:56 |
| LaserJock | andol: same for you ^^ | 01:56 |
| hggdh | LaserJock, it is installed | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | hggdh: hmmpf | 01:57 |
| hggdh | heh | 01:57 |
| LaserJock | the segfault is supposed to happen when python-numeric is *not* installed | 01:57 |
| hggdh | ah, OK. Let me see if I can take it out | 01:57 |
| andol | LaserJock: no python-numeric for me. | 01:58 |
| * andol is running i386, if that matters. | 01:58 | |
| hggdh | er, my default is python3 | 01:58 |
| hggdh | coredump, Laserjock. Running on amd64 | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | ohhhhh | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | how interesting | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | and all you did was remove python-numeric? | 02:00 |
| hggdh | Exception ImportError: 'No module named Numeric' in 'garbage collection' ignored | 02:00 |
| hggdh | Fatal Python error: unexpected exception during garbage collection | 02:00 |
| hggdh | Aborted (core dumped) | 02:00 |
| hggdh | yes | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | ok, yeah, that's the right error | 02:00 |
| LaserJock | ok, well I'm i386 too | 02:00 |
| hggdh | so garbage-collection needs -numeric | 02:01 |
| LaserJock | I have no idea why this would be arch-dependent | 02:01 |
| hggdh | on amd64?? | 02:01 |
| hggdh | that is really weird | 02:01 |
| hggdh | so... let me reinstall -numeric and try again, just to be sure | 02:02 |
| LaserJock | k | 02:02 |
| porthose | LaserJock: I'm on i386 and I get the same error as hggdh no numeric module | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | oh great | 02:03 |
| LaserJock | thanks for blowing my theory out of the water :-0 | 02:03 |
| hggdh | yay, with -numeric no error | 02:03 |
| hggdh | LaserJock, definitely needs -numeric here | 02:04 |
| LaserJock | ok, so hggdh and porthose get core dump, andol and I don't | 02:04 |
| hggdh | my default python is 2.6.2 | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | same here | 02:05 |
| hggdh | now this is even more misterious | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | what's strange is | 02:05 |
| LaserJock | I can go to the gcompris module that's bailing | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | and if I try to load the module it'll bail | 02:06 |
| LaserJock | but that doesn't seem to affect gcompris starting | 02:06 |
| hggdh | out of curiosity, let me remove python3 | 02:07 |
| hggdh | nah, coredumped also. So it has nothing to do with having python3 installed | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | I'm not sure if its python or not | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | or perhaps it's higher in gcompris | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | the problem is that we both can't load the same module | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | it's just that for me that doesn't stop gcompris from starting | 02:12 |
| LaserJock | but for you it causes a core dump | 02:12 |
| hggdh | some sort of python setting? Global? | 02:12 |
| porthose | LaserJock: http://pastebin.com/d74012473 | 02:13 |
| james_w | where does it load Numeric in that module? | 02:14 |
| james_w | is it conditional? | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | it's not conditional | 02:16 |
| LaserJock | it's in /usr/share/gcompris/python/DTW/dtw.py | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | just does a straight, from Numeric import * | 02:17 |
| james_w | can you pastebin the file please? | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | james_w: http://pastebin.com/d26486bf3 | 02:23 |
| james_w | nothing obvious there | 02:24 |
| james_w | why's it trying to load this module at garbage collection time? | 02:24 |
| james_w | doesn't look to be anything in there you would want to use | 02:25 |
| james_w | it may be that garbage collection and loading this module just collide due to something weird this package does, but I wouldn't expect it to always be the same place that it dies | 02:26 |
| LaserJock | james_w: yeah, I've got about 6 people who get the same exact error | 02:28 |
| LaserJock | well poo | 02:37 |
| LaserJock | I don't know why this is happening | 02:37 |
| LaserJock | and unfortunately it's happening to upstream and he's not so happy that it's happening in a stable release | 02:38 |
| micahg | Does Hardy have apport as a service in it? | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | micahg: yes, but you might have to enable it | 03:59 |
| micahg | ok | 03:59 |
| micahg | so I can tell someone /etc/init.d/apport start? | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | micahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How%20to%20enable%20apport | 04:00 |
| micahg | LaserJock: thanks, that's what I needed | 04:02 |
| jklowden | Is this a good place to ask where and how I should report what I think is a WUBI bug? | 04:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | jklowden: you found the right place | 04:34 |
| hggdh | jklowden, see the title of the channel ;-) | 04:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | are you familiar w/ http://www.launchpad.net ? | 04:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | jklowden: are you familiar w/ http://www.launchpad.net | 04:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | hggdh: we have another shoot and run | 04:39 |
| jklowden | I haven't been to launchpad.net. I found a couple of related messages on ubuntuforums.org, and a message <somewhere> saying it's "better" to report bugs directly, or something. | 04:39 |
| jklowden | The deal is that wubi-9.04-rev128.log contained misleading messages about permission being denied. In fact the problem was a read(2) error; the CD was borked. | 04:40 |
| hggdh | heh | 04:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | jklowden: http://www.launchpad.net is where bugs are reported, triaged, and fixed | 04:46 |
| pace_t_zulu | !launchpad | 04:46 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ | 04:46 |
| hggdh | jklowden, indeed, if there is no bug opened on a problem, this problem will have a good chance of keeping on bothering others | 04:47 |
| jklowden | OK, no problem, thanks. I just checked. "wubi permission denied" turned up nothing. I started to register. Would you happen to know what address I should add to my greylist filter? I don't see any mail from "launchpad". | 04:49 |
| jklowden | bounces@canonical.com, perhaps? | 04:51 |
| hggdh | jklowden, give me a min | 04:52 |
| hggdh | hum. It will be a bit more difficult... each email that comes from your bug will carry the email address of the commenter | 04:53 |
| hggdh | but -- the reply-to field will have an email address ending on '@bugs.launchpad.net' | 04:54 |
| jklowden | (That's OK. The greylister just requires the sending SMTP engine to behave itself. It will slow things down a bit, that's all.) | 04:55 |
| micahg | Can someone set bug 355476 to wishlist? | 05:48 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 355476 in firefox "32-bit firefox should be included in AMD64 (x86-64) distribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355476 | 05:48 |
| hggdh | micahg, ugh | 05:53 |
| micahg | ugh? | 05:54 |
| micahg | I don't like it either | 05:54 |
| hggdh | yeah | 05:54 |
| micahg | but, rather I figure everyone's entitled to make their requests, right? | 05:54 |
| hggdh | I agree | 05:55 |
| hggdh | done | 05:56 |
| micahg | thanks | 05:56 |
| micahg | I already commented that the discussion should happen on brainstorm.ubuntu | 05:56 |
| micahg | oh, here's what I was going to ask | 05:56 |
| hggdh | but it is a horrible idea... even though nsplugin suck | 05:56 |
| micahg | why aren't swfdec, gnash, and flashplayer marked as conflicts with each other? | 05:57 |
| hggdh | yes, I saw the brainstorm suggestion. Good move | 05:57 |
| micahg | I just followed the triage response list :) | 05:57 |
| * hggdh knows | 05:57 | |
| micahg | take a look at bug 360681 | 05:58 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 360681 in firefox "after firefox upgrade flash does not work untill flashplugin-nonfree . [ubuntu 8.10] firefox flash hangs swfdec_video_decoder_errorv no suitable decoder for video codec 7 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360681 | 05:58 |
| hggdh | do you run intrepid? | 05:59 |
| micahg | not anymroe | 05:59 |
| hggdh | same here | 05:59 |
| micahg | what were you going to have mem check? | 06:00 |
| micahg | *me | 06:00 |
| micahg | I'm gonna mark the bug as user fixed, but, it begs the question | 06:02 |
| hggdh | no, it does not seem to be a fix | 06:02 |
| hggdh | it is a bypass | 06:02 |
| micahg | what was the original problem though? | 06:03 |
| hggdh | after upgrade of ff, no more flash | 06:03 |
| micahg | why would flash need to be reinstalled after a ff update? | 06:03 |
| micahg | or is that the question? | 06:04 |
| hggdh | that's the reporter's experience | 06:04 |
| micahg | ok | 06:04 |
| micahg | tthis is what i've been posting if the user solves the problem with an update: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs%20resolved%20after%20update%20or%20config%20change | 06:05 |
| micahg | is that not correct in this case? | 06:06 |
| hggdh | hold on | 06:06 |
| hggdh | this would be the wrong response, I am afraid | 06:07 |
| micahg | ok | 06:07 |
| micahg | can you explain please, I'd love to know why | 06:07 |
| hggdh | the bug was not resolved after an upgrade, the bug *appeared* after an updgrade | 06:07 |
| hggdh | it the upgrade that caused the user problem | 06:08 |
| hggdh | and s/he had to reinstall nsplugin-nonfree | 06:08 |
| micahg | yes, but we don't know if it was a problem with flash or a conflict with swfdec and flash | 06:08 |
| hggdh | indeed, we do not know | 06:08 |
| hggdh | this is a reason to keep it open | 06:09 |
| hggdh | so if we could reproduce, it would help | 06:09 |
| micahg | ah, ok | 06:09 |
| micahg | which brings me back to my original question | 06:09 |
| hggdh | (although methinks if this was to be a critical issue, we would have some dups) | 06:09 |
| micahg | is there a reason why flash, gnash, and swfdec aren't marked as conflicts? | 06:09 |
| micahg | also, I've been moving stuff from firefox to firefox-3.0 as the source since ff3 is not categorized in launchpad under firefox, is this correct? | 06:10 |
| hggdh | I do not know. asac is the master on ff | 06:11 |
| micahg | for which question? | 06:11 |
| micahg | should I ask? | 06:11 |
| micahg | or both? | 06:11 |
| hggdh | if it was an apport-generated bug, it should carry the correct pacakge | 06:11 |
| micahg | they usually aren't | 06:11 |
| micahg | the ones I've been dealing with anyways | 06:12 |
| micahg | I've been trying to go through untouched ff and ff3 bugs | 06:12 |
| micahg | There are over 700 in both sources | 06:12 |
| hggdh | on my system /usr/bin/firefox is a soft link to firefox-3.0, which is a soft link to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/firefox.sh | 06:13 |
| micahg | if you look at the versions for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox | 06:14 |
| micahg | and then this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0 | 06:14 |
| hggdh | micahg, notice that most of the new bugs are under ff-3.0 | 06:15 |
| micahg | yep :) | 06:15 |
| micahg | that's why I would think to move the ff3 busg out of the firefox soure | 06:16 |
| micahg | source | 06:16 |
| hggdh | but older Ubuntus will still have the ffox 2.x | 06:16 |
| micahg | yep | 06:16 |
| hggdh | ah | 06:16 |
| hggdh | OK, I think now I get it: you are moving ff-3.0 bugs off ffox | 06:16 |
| micahg | yep | 06:16 |
| hggdh | good | 06:17 |
| micahg | but only if I have something else to comment, like an upgrade request or more info or something | 06:17 |
| micahg | I'm trying not to make noise for those people that are already flooded | 06:17 |
| hggdh | :-) | 06:18 |
| micahg | :) | 06:18 |
| micahg | should I ping asac for my flash questions? | 06:18 |
| hggdh | well, he is the master of ffox | 06:19 |
| micahg | should I ping him in here or in private? | 06:19 |
| hggdh | micahg, you already pinged him (the moment you typed his nick) | 06:29 |
| micahg | ah | 06:30 |
| micahg | cool | 06:30 |
| hggdh | this is why, when you are talking about someone (but do not want to, er, call), you mistype the nick, or use the name | 06:33 |
| micahg | i thought it only pinged the person if you prefixed the line with the name and a colon | 06:34 |
| hggdh | no, it is anywhere in the line, micahg | 06:34 |
| micahg | ok | 06:35 |
| micahg | can you type tha | 06:35 |
| micahg | oops | 06:35 |
| hggdh | ? | 06:36 |
| micahg | I was going to ask if you can type again so I can check | 06:36 |
| hggdh | type what. micahg ? | 06:36 |
| hggdh | heh | 06:36 |
| micahg | yep | 06:36 |
| micahg | ok | 06:36 |
| micahg | good to know :) | 06:36 |
| hggdh | yes, it is. It is also good to keep that in mind so not to keep pinging people unnecessarily | 06:37 |
| micahg | ok | 06:37 |
| micahg | will keep in mind | 06:38 |
| micahg | i think I asked this before, but wasn't clear o the answer | 06:42 |
| hggdh | no prob | 06:43 |
| micahg | if someone asks a question about an outdated ubuntu version, what d you do? | 06:43 |
| micahg | bug 371030 | 06:43 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 371030 in firefox "very slow to sign in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371030 | 06:43 |
| micahg | it's for feisty | 06:43 |
| hggdh | hum | 06:47 |
| hggdh | we do not have a stock response for obsolete versions... | 06:47 |
| micahg | Should I suggest that the user upgrade to Hardy or later? | 06:48 |
| hggdh | you can point the reporter to answers.launchpad.net ("cannot log in" really does not sound like not a ffox bug), and warn that this version of Ubuntu is no longer supported (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases) | 06:49 |
| hggdh | or the forums | 06:49 |
| hggdh | and suggest to upgrade, yes | 06:50 |
| micahg | Should I mark it invalid or incomplete? | 06:50 |
| hggdh | give the explanation, and transform it into a question | 06:51 |
| hggdh | (which will invalidate the bug automagically) | 06:51 |
| micahg | So, I should use the support request text with a mention of support ended for feisty | 06:52 |
| micahg | ? | 06:52 |
| hggdh | yes | 06:52 |
| micahg | sone | 06:53 |
| micahg | done | 06:53 |
| micahg | btw | 06:53 |
| micahg | ff3.0 has 666 new bugs in it :) | 06:53 |
| hggdh | well, yes, there were some issues with it | 06:53 |
| hggdh | (and you are not counting the dups) | 06:54 |
| micahg | I was referring to the count, not the amount | 06:54 |
| micahg | 666 has some negative connotations | 06:55 |
| hggdh | oh | 06:55 |
| hggdh | heh. Not being christian, I forget about this ... | 06:55 |
| micahg | i'm not either | 06:56 |
| micahg | but I thought it was interesting | 06:56 |
| micahg | and I just ruined it... | 06:57 |
| hggdh | what, you opened a new one? | 06:57 |
| micahg | no, converted one to a question :) | 06:57 |
| hggdh | oh | 06:57 |
| hggdh | well, we just wait a bit, and a new bug should pop in | 06:58 |
| hggdh | g'night micahg. Time to pack in | 07:00 |
| micahg | night hggdh | 07:00 |
| micahg | I'm going to bed soonm mysql | 07:00 |
| micahg | oops | 07:00 |
| micahg | mysqlf | 07:00 |
| micahg | myself | 07:00 |
| micahg | bug 244529 shoudl be wishlist or question? | 07:19 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 244529 in firefox-3.0 "Let Firefox open .log files inside the browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244529 | 07:19 |
| YoBoY | good morning | 07:22 |
| micahg | good morning | 07:23 |
| micahg | YoBoY: could you answer my question? | 07:25 |
| YoBoY | give me some time ^^ | 07:28 |
| micahg | ok | 07:30 |
| YoBoY | the use of the ~/.mime.types is the way firefox work (it's in the about:config) so i think this is a question | 07:41 |
| YoBoY | micahg: ↑ | 07:41 |
| micahg | ok | 07:42 |
| micahg | i was going to link here | 07:42 |
| micahg | http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions | 07:42 |
| micahg | after converting to a Q | 07:42 |
| YoBoY | ok | 07:51 |
| YoBoY | new bug 371127 if someone can confirm :) | 07:52 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 371127 in firefox-3.0 "Strange URL in pfs.datasource.url field on the about:config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371127 | 07:52 |
| micahg | confirmed | 07:54 |
| YoBoY | tanks | 07:57 |
| micahg | I'm trying to get the new ff3.0 bugs under 650 again | 07:57 |
| YoBoY | goog eye ^^ | 07:58 |
| YoBoY | good | 07:58 |
| YoBoY | i haven't see the other link :p | 07:58 |
| micahg | I used the filter :D | 08:01 |
| YoBoY | yes i found the first with the mime keyword ^^" | 08:04 |
| micahg | can I get someone to mark bug 242265 as wishlist? | 08:37 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 242265 in thunderbird "This is not a bug " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242265 | 08:37 |
| micahg | oops | 08:38 |
| micahg | nevermind | 08:38 |
| micahg | I'll do this another night | 08:38 |
| arteek | Hi, could somebody help me to resolve my doubts concerning proper way to triage a bug? | 08:44 |
| arteek | I have a following bug report 364444 that in fact is not a bug report but rather question. | 08:45 |
| arteek | In the same time user filled questin on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/68291 that is the same as above bug report | 08:46 |
| arteek | What should I do with the original bug report. The question as already solved. | 08:46 |
| arteek | s/as/is | 08:46 |
| YoBoY | bug 364444 | 09:03 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 364444 in ubuntu-docs "problem with netgear WG311v3 wireless card" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364444 | 09:03 |
| YoBoY | arteek: seem the correct procedure, the question exist, so no need to convert, invalidate is a good choice | 09:04 |
| arteek | YoBoY: I already did it. I read once again a wiki and found answer, so I'm sorry for a question;-) | 09:06 |
| YoBoY | i know you already did it, i juste confirmed it's a good choice :p | 09:06 |
| arteek | YoBoY: Oh yes, sorry. Thanks anyway for your confirmation. | 09:07 |
| YoBoY | no problem, tanks to your work | 09:08 |
| arteek | YoBoY: one question: does it possible to assign bug to existing question. This question had answer and been solved but if the question would be still open what with such case I sould do? | 09:12 |
| YoBoY | don't know, never tested, wait, i give it a try on staging | 09:14 |
| arteek | ok | 09:15 |
| YoBoY | the bug and the question are already linked :] | 09:17 |
| YoBoY | by the way, when you are on a question, you can link it to a bug, it's an option on the right menu | 09:18 |
| arteek | Yes I see, but of course I still have to marking bug as invalid? | 09:20 |
| arteek | In this case? | 09:20 |
| YoBoY | yes | 09:20 |
| arteek | ok, I think this procedure should be add to the wiki. | 09:20 |
| YoBoY | yes, should appear somewhere | 09:21 |
| YoBoY | you can ask on the ML | 09:22 |
| arteek | I will, thank you for your help:-) | 09:22 |
| === erhesrhsrtb54vyh is now known as Elbrus | ||
| askand | regarding the Jaunty freezes, is there a mainbug on this yet? | 12:36 |
| askand | To clarify I mean bug 355155 for example | 12:43 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 355155 in linux "Computer hard locks randomly with ubuntu jaunty" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355155 | 12:43 |
| thekorn | /! sudo apt-get install me-tv | 13:35 |
| thekorn | argh, sorry | 13:35 |
| BUGabundo | hi gnomefreak | 14:02 |
| gnomefreak | hi BUGabundo | 14:03 |
| gnomefreak | BUGabundo: do you rellize that you are pretty much the only one that sent dents since yesterday it seems | 14:04 |
| BUGabundo | no! | 14:08 |
| BUGabundo | I get a lot from everyone else | 14:08 |
| BUGabundo | and I wasn't online most of yesterday either | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo | gnomefreak: http://www.macno.org/denticator.php?user=bugabundo&weekchart=bar&daychart=bar | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo | or http://www.macno.org/denticator.php?user=gnomefreak&weekchart=bar&daychart=bar | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo | or even http://www.macno.org/denticator.php?user=asac&weekchart=bar&daychart=bar | 14:09 |
| BUGabundo | humm OT ... sorry about that | 14:09 |
| * BUGabundo needs to learn to see in which # talk is going on | 14:09 | |
| gnomefreak | :) thanks for links | 14:10 |
| BUGabundo | np | 14:11 |
| micahg | I just discovered that Realplayer has not been supported officially in Ubuntu for 3 years | 14:20 |
| micahg | but now there is Medibuntu | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | lol micahg | 14:20 |
| micahg | can I go clear out all the bugs related to realplayer for current releases | 14:20 |
| BUGabundo | !medibuntu | 14:20 |
| ubot4` | medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org | 14:20 |
| micahg | yes | 14:21 |
| micahg | so here's what I did for one of them | 14:22 |
| micahg | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/69735 | 14:22 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: looks good | 14:26 |
| micahg | so, should I do it to the rest of the realplayer bugs for versions > dapper? | 14:27 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: we don't have RealPlayer, its 3rd party and closed | 14:27 |
| BUGabundo | its not *our* bug | 14:27 |
| BUGabundo | if medibuntu works, great, if it doesn't, complain to Real! | 14:27 |
| micahg | right, but there are plenty of issues in the bug tracker for Ubuntu | 14:28 |
| micahg | I figured I could clear them out | 14:28 |
| micahg | and that's exactly the point, it's not an ubuntu bug and shouldn't be in the bug tracker | 14:28 |
| micahg | I'm just trying to get a semi official ok to go convert about 15-20 bugs to questions | 14:29 |
| Hobbsee | micahg: don't think most people will be able to give you one, but go ahead - sounds reasonable | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: you can upstream all medibuntu bugs and mark the ones for ubuntu as invalid | 14:31 |
| BUGabundo | MB is hosted on LP so its easy | 14:32 |
| hggdh | micahg, https://launchpad.net/medibuntu/ | 14:32 |
| hggdh | micahg, the package should be medibuntu | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo | hggdh: as I said, for all bugs just invalidate the ubuntu task and upstream it | 14:35 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: the problem, is that they probably aren't bugs at all, but just using bad deb packages | 14:36 |
| micahg | so, I don't want to clutter the Medibuntu bug tracker unnecessarily as I would hope that others wouldn't clutter ours, right? | 14:36 |
| BUGabundo | humm if they are medibuntu packages, then they are bugs... | 14:37 |
| micahg | that's why I figure convert to qeustion | 14:37 |
| micahg | yes | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | of course it depends on what the user is stating | 14:37 |
| micahg | but they don't have the medibuntu stuff installed | 14:37 |
| micahg | yes | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | ah then its not a MB bug | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 14:37 |
| micahg | ok | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | yes question is a better action for those cases | 14:37 |
| micahg | I'll go bug slaying... | 14:37 |
| BUGabundo | always ask for apt-cache policy PACKAGE | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | and you will see the source... | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | if its not archive, most prob its not either our or MB bug | 14:38 |
| BUGabundo | just someone who got a deb or source from somewhre (even not from real site, but some forum/blog) | 14:38 |
| micahg | yep, but since we don't even support realplayer anymore, I'm just going to refer them to medibuntu | 14:39 |
| micahg | there's no point going back and forth and cluttering up people's inboxes who are watching the answer tracker/bug tracker | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo | yeah | 14:40 |
| BUGabundo | but see what they have and how they got it | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo | they should be removing and purging old stuff | 14:41 |
| micahg | even though it's not supported I should do this? | 14:41 |
| BUGabundo | doesn't hurt, does it? | 14:41 |
| micahg | well, it's back and forth that might be unnecessary | 14:42 |
| micahg | if they add the medibuntu repo and upgrade | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | if ppl really want the mediubuntu one, and have some other source, it's a good, clean way to get it working | 14:42 |
| micahg | well, the thing is, if I'm replying to medibuntu issues in ubuntu, I can';t triage ubuntu things in ubuntu' | 14:44 |
| micahg | I agree with you in principle though | 14:44 |
| micahg | but the ubuntu backlog is large right now, no? | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | hum having that on Answers isn't that bad | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: bugs backlog? large? no!!!! | 14:45 |
| hggdh | what backlog? ;-) | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | last time I heard some one making stats on it, if LP was closed for new bugs, it would take 5 years to triage all opened bugs | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | and that was last year | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | although bug jams seems to help A LOT | 14:45 |
| micahg | I've been trying to do about 10 a night, more info or convert to question | 14:47 |
| micahg | I'm not able to actually patch stuff yet | 14:47 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: np | 14:47 |
| BUGabundo | all your work is good... anyone can/should happened doing what one does best | 14:47 |
| micahg | yeah, I've only had positive feedback in here and from the users | 14:49 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: eheh great | 14:51 |
| micahg | bug 367103, I'm tempted to convert to question because user seems confused | 15:26 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 367103 in ubuntu "no audio on streaming radio sites" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367103 | 15:26 |
| micahg | I've got to run out for a while, but if someone can answer ^^^^ when they get a chance, I'll check back later | 15:35 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: let me read it | 15:36 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: sound like either an audio bug, or codec one | 15:37 |
| BUGabundo | should ask for apport info on both | 15:37 |
| hggdh | realplayer? | 15:44 |
| BUGabundo | who knows | 15:46 |
| BUGabundo | user doesn't mention the origin of the stream | 15:46 |
| micahg | I was oging to ask which site first so we can determine which plugin has the trouble | 15:51 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 15:52 |
| micahg | but I should keep it in the bug tracker for the moment? | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo | sure | 15:53 |
| hggdh | yes | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo | it may end being an audio bug | 15:53 |
| BUGabundo | but my suspistion goes with user error, or codec not installed | 15:54 |
| BUGabundo | any one interessed http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19607/ ? | 15:54 |
| BUGabundo | brb rebboting to Karmic Koala 9.10 pre-alpha | 15:55 |
| dyfet | I like the foundation behind the idea...of improving upstream communication | 15:55 |
| micahg | does brainstorm use the same logis launchpad?n a | 15:56 |
| hggdh | micahg, I do not know, never been there | 16:26 |
| micahg | ok, nevermind, I jsut created an account | 16:26 |
| elena09 | good evening | 16:29 |
| micahg | can someone mark 318359 as wishlist | 16:35 |
| micahg | oops | 16:35 |
| micahg | bug 318359 | 16:36 |
| ubot4` | micahg: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out | 16:36 |
| BUGabundo | hey elena09 good to see you back, and that we didn't scare you too much | 16:36 |
| * BUGabundo kicks ubot4` and LP timeouts | 16:36 | |
| BUGabundo | bug 318359 | 16:36 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 318359 in firefox "' - Mozilla Firefox' always appended to window title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318359 | 16:36 |
| * BUGabundo when all other means fails, try to kick it! | 16:37 | |
| micahg | what do you mark upstream, non-ubuntu issues? | 16:45 |
| micahg | actually | 16:45 |
| micahg | scratch that | 16:46 |
| micahg | it is an ubuntu issue | 16:46 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 16:48 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: how long have you been doing triage? | 16:49 |
| micahg | uh oh :) | 16:49 |
| micahg | ummm, about 2 weeks maybe | 16:49 |
| micahg | what did I do? | 16:49 |
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| BUGabundo | micahg: oh nothing bad AFAIK | 16:50 |
| BUGabundo | just asking... | 16:50 |
| micahg | actually | 16:50 |
| micahg | only about a week :) | 16:50 |
| micahg | I thought I messed up on bug 318359 | 16:50 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 318359 in firefox "' - Mozilla Firefox' always appended to window title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318359 | 16:50 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: maybe you could apply for bug control in a month or so | 16:50 |
| micahg | ok | 16:51 |
| micahg | cool | 16:51 |
| micahg | does 5 a day mean you have to do 5 a day or can you average 35 a week? | 16:51 |
| BUGabundo | bdmurray: ping ^^^^^^^^^^ | 16:52 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: can you wishlist 318359? | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: what did you do with that bug? seems fine, its an upstream bug, where the user can track it on LP too | 16:52 |
| micahg | yes, I added the upstream | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | looks good | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | but upstream will surelly mark it as won't fix | 16:52 |
| BUGabundo | they like the PUB lol | 16:53 |
| micahg | but, I wanted to add a note to go to brainstorm to discuss removing the browser branding | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: and no, I can't change bugs prio. I'm not (yet??) on bug control team | 16:53 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: again, this is not an Ubuntu bug, but an upstream one | 16:53 |
| micahg | ah | 16:53 |
| micahg | ok | 16:53 |
| micahg | well, for the moment it is in upstream control | 16:54 |
| BUGabundo | and Mozilla is not quite good at accepting deltas from distros while mantainig the Branding | 16:54 |
| micahg | but, user wants epiphany behaviour which has no branding at all | 16:54 |
| micahg | which would be up to ubuntu if the upstream bug was taken care of | 16:54 |
| micahg | hggdh: can you wishlist one for me? | 16:55 |
| hggdh | which one? | 16:55 |
| micahg | bug 318359 | 16:55 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 318359 in firefox "' - Mozilla Firefox' always appended to window title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318359 | 16:55 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: if Mozilla actually did that (which they won't, I think) then ubuntu would have the change too | 16:57 |
| hggdh | micahg, whish-listed | 16:57 |
| micahg | thanks | 16:57 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: yes, but the upstream request is only for customiatio | 16:58 |
| hggdh | BUGabundo, there is an upstream bug on that... so we let mozilla figure it out | 16:58 |
| micahg | ubuntu would then have the option for epiphany behaviour or not | 16:58 |
| hggdh | customisation also means taking out | 16:58 |
| micahg | which couuld be discussed on bainstorm | 16:58 |
| micahg | *brainstorm | 16:58 |
| hggdh | barnstorm? | 16:58 |
| BUGabundo | barkstorm | 16:59 |
| BUGabundo | ;) | 16:59 |
| hggdh | :-D | 16:59 |
| micahg | I was wonderign what qualifies as triaged? | 16:59 |
| micahg | ah | 16:59 |
| micahg | you are member of Ubuntu Bug Control and made the call | 16:59 |
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| micahg | hggdh: I'm assuming I should place the proper comments for the user still? | 17:02 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: AFAICT "triage" is to go around bugs and trying to improve them so that the Dev as a GOOD bug report | 17:02 |
| hggdh | micahg, what proper comments? | 17:02 |
| micahg | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/163627/ | 17:02 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: yeah, feed back is always a good thing | 17:03 |
| hggdh | hold on | 17:03 |
| BUGabundo | humm LP can also fetch info from Mozilla bugzilla | 17:03 |
| hggdh | micahg, yes, please do it | 17:04 |
| BUGabundo | and there are a couple of typos in there | 17:04 |
| micahg | also, how long does ubuntu pastebin last? | 17:04 |
| hggdh | would say a few days | 17:04 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: typos in my text? | 17:04 |
| BUGabundo | "http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ where " | 17:04 |
| BUGabundo | I would go with "Brainstorm (URL HERE) is where...." | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | oh wait | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | its a two line sentence | 17:05 |
| BUGabundo | sorry about that | 17:05 |
| hggdh | heh | 17:05 |
| micahg | I shouldn't have discussed in there twice | 17:05 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: LP updated 10 minutes ago | 17:06 |
| micahg | It's cool that launchpad tells you if other bugs point to the same upstream bug | 17:14 |
| BUGabundo | does it? | 17:19 |
| BUGabundo | dind know that | 17:19 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: do you have an example? | 17:19 |
| micahg | well, I set the upstream on bug 330449 | 17:21 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 330449 in firefox "about: screen shows the wrong version number (dup-of: 194894)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330449 | 17:21 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 194894 in firefox "[MASTER] Firefox reports "version 1.9b3" in "about:"" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194894 | 17:21 |
| micahg | and it told me 2 other bugs had it set | 17:21 |
| micahg | Q about bug 365143 | 17:24 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 365143 in firefox "Firefox should embed PDF's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365143 | 17:24 |
| micahg | it's already possible | 17:24 |
| micahg | but, maybe user is asking if it shoudl be default? | 17:24 |
| micahg | I was going to convert to question | 17:24 |
| micahg | I could convert to question and still comment about brainstorm | 17:26 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 17:32 |
| BUGabundo | you do love questions and BS lol | 17:33 |
| micahg | well, I want to clear out the bug tracker | 17:33 |
| micahg | * try to | 17:33 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 17:33 |
| BUGabundo | great work! | 17:33 |
| micahg | so, q + bs? | 17:33 |
| micahg | or wishlist + bs? | 17:33 |
| micahg | actually, there's already a blueprint in launchpad for it | 17:35 |
| micahg | but it's 2.5 years old | 17:35 |
| BUGabundo | for what? | 17:36 |
| micahg | embedded pdfs in FF | 17:36 |
| BUGabundo | oh | 17:39 |
| micahg | I did Q + BS | 17:39 |
| micahg | asac ping | 17:47 |
| micahg | I'm wondering if bug 297369 is by design | 17:48 |
| ubot4` | micahg: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out | 17:48 |
| * micahg kicks ubot4` | 17:48 | |
| micahg | bug 297369 | 17:48 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 297369 in firefox-3.0 "About:config edit var" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297369 | 17:49 |
| BUGabundo | ahahaha | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: you already learn how that works!!!! by kicking the bot1 | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | :)))))) | 17:50 |
| micahg | I'm a quick study | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | quick *learner* you mean micahg | 17:51 |
| hggdh | micahg, not sure. Let's try it | 17:54 |
| micahg | try to modify it? | 17:54 |
| micahg | the useragentswitch plugin is the easy way to do it | 17:54 |
| hggdh | yes. (Although I am on 9.04, and the reporter on 8.04) | 17:54 |
| micahg | but i'm just want to know if it resets by design | 17:55 |
| micahg | I think it does | 17:55 |
| micahg | because there is an override value in there | 17:55 |
| micahg | http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries#General..2A | 17:55 |
| micahg | hggdh: wondering if I should convert to Q and refer to useragenswitch plugin | 17:56 |
| hggdh | I think it is a good idea, mostly because there is already a plugin to do that | 17:58 |
| micahg | ok | 17:58 |
| micahg | ahhh...bugs are addictive... | 18:02 |
| BUGabundo | are they? | 18:04 |
| hggdh | they are. They are addictive and multiplicative, have closure, but are uncountable | 18:50 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 18:51 |
| hggdh | but... they are not abelian | 18:54 |
| Rocket2DMn | hey guys, bug 129223 has some dups marked by apport, but no trace | 18:58 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 129223 in willowng "willowng crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129223 | 18:58 |
| Rocket2DMn | what would you like to do with it | 18:59 |
| BUGabundo | Rocket2DMn: doesn't LP remove traces when it autodupes bugs? | 19:01 |
| Rocket2DMn | BUGabundo, yes, but its strange b/c the parent bug doesnt have a trace | 19:01 |
| micahg | bug 259365 | 19:12 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 259365 in firefox-3.0 "Please update Firefox 3 Thai locale from CVS" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259365 | 19:12 |
| micahg | fix was released by mozilla, and got into ubuntu | 19:12 |
| micahg | DO I mark Fix Released even though no upstream bug islsited? | 19:12 |
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| BUGabundo | micahg: is it in the repos? if so, sure, if not Fix Commited | 19:21 |
| micahg | yep | 19:21 |
| micahg | ok, so I had a bug that I converted to a Q, I just found a dup that | 19:22 |
| micahg | s a little more descriptive | 19:22 |
| micahg | but still should become a Q | 19:22 |
| micahg | nevermind | 19:28 |
| micahg | How do I check if a certain language version of FF is in ubuntu? | 20:12 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: translation ? | 20:15 |
| micahg | it's not under that tab | 20:15 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: it appears to be there | 20:19 |
| micahg | but it's hard to find | 20:19 |
| micahg | i had to use google :( | 20:19 |
| savvas | micahg: dpkg -L language-pack-xx-base | grep firefox | 20:22 |
| savvas | where "xx" is the code of the language you want | 20:22 |
| micahg | what if I donm't have it installed | 20:24 |
| savvas | i might be wrong though | 20:25 |
| savvas | from what I see, they're like extensions | 20:26 |
| savvas | /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/langpack-el@firefox-3.0.ubuntu.com | 20:26 |
| savvas | micahg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=language-pack- | 20:27 |
| savvas | you select a release and under "Files" there's a link [list of files] | 20:28 |
| micahg | ok | 20:29 |
| micahg | What I was looking for isn't there | 20:29 |
| micahg | so it didn't make it in yet | 20:29 |
| virtuald | i'm trying to find a bug report about xorg on radeon crashing when the screen saver is running, does anyone know about it? | 20:29 |
| virtuald | on jaunty | 20:29 |
| savvas | micahg: which language? | 20:30 |
| savvas | it doesn't show all the language packages there unforunately | 20:31 |
| savvas | http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/language-pack-xx-base <- xx = your language code | 20:31 |
| micahg | et | 20:32 |
| Pici | I'm having issues similar to bug #345900, but I'm not sure what I should do to provide more information or fix.. | 20:35 |
| ubot4` | Pici: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out | 20:35 |
| Pici | https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyglet/+bug/345900 | 20:36 |
| ubot4` | Launchpad bug 345900 in ubuntu "opengl issues with ati FireGL card" [Undecided,New] | 20:36 |
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