[01:30] anybody have a fresh Jaunty VM laying around? [01:32] I need somebody to install gcompris (a bit of a download) and see if it segfaults [01:51] server or desktop? [01:51] desktop [01:51] sorry... only desktop I have is the real mccoy [01:52] well, that'd work to if you wouldn't mind [01:52] k [01:52] it just seems like I'm the only one not experiencing this bug [01:52] from the standard repos? [01:53] yeah [01:54] just install gcompris [01:54] just gcompris, -data *-sound? [01:54] and then run gcompris from a terminal [01:54] yeah [01:54] and all I need is if it segfaults or not at startup [01:54] just 45M download, should take a few seconds [01:54] * andol also does an apt-get install gcompris... [01:54] If the computer crashes, I'll take it as a sign of it being bed time :) [01:55] heh [01:55] k, will run now [01:56] no sigseg [01:56] LaserJock: For me gcompris starts without any problems. Anything you want me to test inside the application? [01:56] hggdh: oh, I need to know if you have python-numeric installed [01:56] andol: same for you ^^ [01:57] LaserJock, it is installed [01:57] hggdh: hmmpf [01:57] heh [01:57] the segfault is supposed to happen when python-numeric is *not* installed [01:57] ah, OK. Let me see if I can take it out [01:58] LaserJock: no python-numeric for me. [01:58] * andol is running i386, if that matters. [01:58] er, my default is python3 [02:00] coredump, Laserjock. Running on amd64 [02:00] ohhhhh [02:00] how interesting [02:00] and all you did was remove python-numeric? [02:00] Exception ImportError: 'No module named Numeric' in 'garbage collection' ignored [02:00] Fatal Python error: unexpected exception during garbage collection [02:00] Aborted (core dumped) [02:00] yes [02:00] ok, yeah, that's the right error [02:00] ok, well I'm i386 too [02:01] so garbage-collection needs -numeric [02:01] I have no idea why this would be arch-dependent [02:01] on amd64?? [02:01] that is really weird [02:02] so... let me reinstall -numeric and try again, just to be sure [02:02] k [02:03] LaserJock: I'm on i386 and I get the same error as hggdh no numeric module [02:03] oh great [02:03] thanks for blowing my theory out of the water :-0 [02:03] yay, with -numeric no error [02:04] LaserJock, definitely needs -numeric here [02:04] ok, so hggdh and porthose get core dump, andol and I don't [02:05] my default python is 2.6.2 [02:05] same here [02:05] now this is even more misterious [02:05] what's strange is [02:06] I can go to the gcompris module that's bailing [02:06] and if I try to load the module it'll bail [02:06] but that doesn't seem to affect gcompris starting [02:07] out of curiosity, let me remove python3 [02:10] nah, coredumped also. So it has nothing to do with having python3 installed [02:11] I'm not sure if its python or not [02:11] or perhaps it's higher in gcompris [02:11] the problem is that we both can't load the same module [02:12] it's just that for me that doesn't stop gcompris from starting [02:12] but for you it causes a core dump [02:12] some sort of python setting? Global? [02:13] LaserJock: http://pastebin.com/d74012473 [02:14] where does it load Numeric in that module? [02:14] is it conditional? [02:16] it's not conditional [02:17] it's in /usr/share/gcompris/python/DTW/dtw.py [02:17] just does a straight, from Numeric import * [02:19] can you pastebin the file please? [02:23] james_w: http://pastebin.com/d26486bf3 [02:24] nothing obvious there [02:24] why's it trying to load this module at garbage collection time? [02:25] doesn't look to be anything in there you would want to use [02:26] it may be that garbage collection and loading this module just collide due to something weird this package does, but I wouldn't expect it to always be the same place that it dies [02:28] james_w: yeah, I've got about 6 people who get the same exact error [02:37] well poo [02:37] I don't know why this is happening [02:38] and unfortunately it's happening to upstream and he's not so happy that it's happening in a stable release [03:50] Does Hardy have apport as a service in it? [03:59] micahg: yes, but you might have to enable it [03:59] ok [03:59] so I can tell someone /etc/init.d/apport start? [04:00] micahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How%20to%20enable%20apport [04:02] LaserJock: thanks, that's what I needed [04:33] Is this a good place to ask where and how I should report what I think is a WUBI bug? [04:34] jklowden: you found the right place [04:35] jklowden, see the title of the channel ;-) [04:35] are you familiar w/ http://www.launchpad.net ? [04:36] jklowden: are you familiar w/ http://www.launchpad.net [04:39] hggdh: we have another shoot and run [04:39] I haven't been to launchpad.net. I found a couple of related messages on ubuntuforums.org, and a message saying it's "better" to report bugs directly, or something. [04:40] The deal is that wubi-9.04-rev128.log contained misleading messages about permission being denied. In fact the problem was a read(2) error; the CD was borked. [04:45] heh [04:46] jklowden: http://www.launchpad.net is where bugs are reported, triaged, and fixed [04:46] !launchpad [04:46] Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [04:47] jklowden, indeed, if there is no bug opened on a problem, this problem will have a good chance of keeping on bothering others [04:49] OK, no problem, thanks. I just checked. "wubi permission denied" turned up nothing. I started to register. Would you happen to know what address I should add to my greylist filter? I don't see any mail from "launchpad". [04:51] bounces@canonical.com, perhaps? [04:52] jklowden, give me a min [04:53] hum. It will be a bit more difficult... each email that comes from your bug will carry the email address of the commenter [04:54] but -- the reply-to field will have an email address ending on '@bugs.launchpad.net' [04:55] (That's OK. The greylister just requires the sending SMTP engine to behave itself. It will slow things down a bit, that's all.) [05:48] Can someone set bug 355476 to wishlist? [05:48] Launchpad bug 355476 in firefox "32-bit firefox should be included in AMD64 (x86-64) distribution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355476 [05:53] micahg, ugh [05:54] ugh? [05:54] I don't like it either [05:54] yeah [05:54] but, rather I figure everyone's entitled to make their requests, right? [05:55] I agree [05:56] done [05:56] thanks [05:56] I already commented that the discussion should happen on brainstorm.ubuntu [05:56] oh, here's what I was going to ask [05:56] but it is a horrible idea... even though nsplugin suck [05:57] why aren't swfdec, gnash, and flashplayer marked as conflicts with each other? [05:57] yes, I saw the brainstorm suggestion. Good move [05:57] I just followed the triage response list :) [05:57] * hggdh knows [05:58] take a look at bug 360681 [05:58] Launchpad bug 360681 in firefox "after firefox upgrade flash does not work untill flashplugin-nonfree . [ubuntu 8.10] firefox flash hangs swfdec_video_decoder_errorv no suitable decoder for video codec 7 " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/360681 [05:59] do you run intrepid? [05:59] not anymroe [05:59] same here [06:00] what were you going to have mem check? [06:00] *me [06:02] I'm gonna mark the bug as user fixed, but, it begs the question [06:02] no, it does not seem to be a fix [06:02] it is a bypass [06:03] what was the original problem though? [06:03] after upgrade of ff, no more flash [06:03] why would flash need to be reinstalled after a ff update? [06:04] or is that the question? [06:04] that's the reporter's experience [06:04] ok [06:05] tthis is what i've been posting if the user solves the problem with an update: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs%20resolved%20after%20update%20or%20config%20change [06:06] is that not correct in this case? [06:06] hold on [06:07] this would be the wrong response, I am afraid [06:07] ok [06:07] can you explain please, I'd love to know why [06:07] the bug was not resolved after an upgrade, the bug *appeared* after an updgrade [06:08] it the upgrade that caused the user problem [06:08] and s/he had to reinstall nsplugin-nonfree [06:08] yes, but we don't know if it was a problem with flash or a conflict with swfdec and flash [06:08] indeed, we do not know [06:09] this is a reason to keep it open [06:09] so if we could reproduce, it would help [06:09] ah, ok [06:09] which brings me back to my original question [06:09] (although methinks if this was to be a critical issue, we would have some dups) [06:09] is there a reason why flash, gnash, and swfdec aren't marked as conflicts? [06:10] also, I've been moving stuff from firefox to firefox-3.0 as the source since ff3 is not categorized in launchpad under firefox, is this correct? [06:11] I do not know. asac is the master on ff [06:11] for which question? [06:11] should I ask? [06:11] or both? [06:11] if it was an apport-generated bug, it should carry the correct pacakge [06:11] they usually aren't [06:12] the ones I've been dealing with anyways [06:12] I've been trying to go through untouched ff and ff3 bugs [06:12] There are over 700 in both sources [06:13] on my system /usr/bin/firefox is a soft link to firefox-3.0, which is a soft link to /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.10/firefox.sh [06:14] if you look at the versions for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox [06:14] and then this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0 [06:15] micahg, notice that most of the new bugs are under ff-3.0 [06:15] yep :) [06:16] that's why I would think to move the ff3 busg out of the firefox soure [06:16] source [06:16] but older Ubuntus will still have the ffox 2.x [06:16] yep [06:16] ah [06:16] OK, I think now I get it: you are moving ff-3.0 bugs off ffox [06:16] yep [06:17] good [06:17] but only if I have something else to comment, like an upgrade request or more info or something [06:17] I'm trying not to make noise for those people that are already flooded [06:18] :-) [06:18] :) [06:18] should I ping asac for my flash questions? [06:19] well, he is the master of ffox [06:19] should I ping him in here or in private? [06:29] micahg, you already pinged him (the moment you typed his nick) [06:30] ah [06:30] cool [06:33] this is why, when you are talking about someone (but do not want to, er, call), you mistype the nick, or use the name [06:34] i thought it only pinged the person if you prefixed the line with the name and a colon [06:34] no, it is anywhere in the line, micahg [06:35] ok [06:35] can you type tha [06:35] oops [06:36] ? [06:36] I was going to ask if you can type again so I can check [06:36] type what. micahg ? [06:36] heh [06:36] yep [06:36] ok [06:36] good to know :) [06:37] yes, it is. It is also good to keep that in mind so not to keep pinging people unnecessarily [06:37] ok [06:38] will keep in mind [06:42] i think I asked this before, but wasn't clear o the answer [06:43] no prob [06:43] if someone asks a question about an outdated ubuntu version, what d you do? [06:43] bug 371030 [06:43] Launchpad bug 371030 in firefox "very slow to sign in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371030 [06:43] it's for feisty [06:47] hum [06:47] we do not have a stock response for obsolete versions... [06:48] Should I suggest that the user upgrade to Hardy or later? [06:49] you can point the reporter to answers.launchpad.net ("cannot log in" really does not sound like not a ffox bug), and warn that this version of Ubuntu is no longer supported (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases) [06:49] or the forums [06:50] and suggest to upgrade, yes [06:50] Should I mark it invalid or incomplete? [06:51] give the explanation, and transform it into a question [06:51] (which will invalidate the bug automagically) [06:52] So, I should use the support request text with a mention of support ended for feisty [06:52] ? [06:52] yes [06:53] sone [06:53] done [06:53] btw [06:53] ff3.0 has 666 new bugs in it :) [06:53] well, yes, there were some issues with it [06:54] (and you are not counting the dups) [06:54] I was referring to the count, not the amount [06:55] 666 has some negative connotations [06:55] oh [06:55] heh. Not being christian, I forget about this ... [06:56] i'm not either [06:56] but I thought it was interesting [06:57] and I just ruined it... [06:57] what, you opened a new one? [06:57] no, converted one to a question :) [06:57] oh [06:58] well, we just wait a bit, and a new bug should pop in [07:00] g'night micahg. Time to pack in [07:00] night hggdh [07:00] I'm going to bed soonm mysql [07:00] oops [07:00] mysqlf [07:00] myself [07:19] bug 244529 shoudl be wishlist or question? [07:19] Launchpad bug 244529 in firefox-3.0 "Let Firefox open .log files inside the browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/244529 [07:22] good morning [07:23] good morning [07:25] YoBoY: could you answer my question? [07:28] give me some time ^^ [07:30] ok [07:41] the use of the ~/.mime.types is the way firefox work (it's in the about:config) so i think this is a question [07:41] micahg: ↑ [07:42] ok [07:42] i was going to link here [07:42] http://kb.mozillazine.org/File_types_and_download_actions [07:42] after converting to a Q [07:51] ok [07:52] new bug 371127 if someone can confirm :) [07:52] Launchpad bug 371127 in firefox-3.0 "Strange URL in pfs.datasource.url field on the about:config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371127 [07:54] confirmed [07:57] tanks [07:57] I'm trying to get the new ff3.0 bugs under 650 again [07:58] goog eye ^^ [07:58] good [07:58] i haven't see the other link :p [08:01] I used the filter :D [08:04] yes i found the first with the mime keyword ^^" [08:37] can I get someone to mark bug 242265 as wishlist? [08:37] Launchpad bug 242265 in thunderbird "This is not a bug " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/242265 [08:38] oops [08:38] nevermind [08:38] I'll do this another night [08:44] Hi, could somebody help me to resolve my doubts concerning proper way to triage a bug? [08:45] I have a following bug report 364444 that in fact is not a bug report but rather question. [08:46] In the same time user filled questin on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/68291 that is the same as above bug report [08:46] What should I do with the original bug report. The question as already solved. [08:46] s/as/is [09:03] bug 364444 [09:03] Launchpad bug 364444 in ubuntu-docs "problem with netgear WG311v3 wireless card" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364444 [09:04] arteek: seem the correct procedure, the question exist, so no need to convert, invalidate is a good choice [09:06] YoBoY: I already did it. I read once again a wiki and found answer, so I'm sorry for a question;-) [09:06] i know you already did it, i juste confirmed it's a good choice :p [09:07] YoBoY: Oh yes, sorry. Thanks anyway for your confirmation. [09:08] no problem, tanks to your work [09:12] YoBoY: one question: does it possible to assign bug to existing question. This question had answer and been solved but if the question would be still open what with such case I sould do? [09:14] don't know, never tested, wait, i give it a try on staging [09:15] ok [09:17] the bug and the question are already linked :] [09:18] by the way, when you are on a question, you can link it to a bug, it's an option on the right menu [09:20] Yes I see, but of course I still have to marking bug as invalid? [09:20] In this case? [09:20] yes [09:20] ok, I think this procedure should be add to the wiki. [09:21] yes, should appear somewhere [09:22] you can ask on the ML [09:22] I will, thank you for your help:-) === erhesrhsrtb54vyh is now known as Elbrus [12:36] regarding the Jaunty freezes, is there a mainbug on this yet? [12:43] To clarify I mean bug 355155 for example [12:43] Launchpad bug 355155 in linux "Computer hard locks randomly with ubuntu jaunty" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/355155 [13:35] /! sudo apt-get install me-tv [13:35] argh, sorry [14:02] hi gnomefreak [14:03] hi BUGabundo [14:04] BUGabundo: do you rellize that you are pretty much the only one that sent dents since yesterday it seems [14:08] no! [14:08] I get a lot from everyone else [14:09] and I wasn't online most of yesterday either [14:09] gnomefreak: http://www.macno.org/denticator.php?user=bugabundo&weekchart=bar&daychart=bar [14:09] or http://www.macno.org/denticator.php?user=gnomefreak&weekchart=bar&daychart=bar [14:09] or even http://www.macno.org/denticator.php?user=asac&weekchart=bar&daychart=bar [14:09] humm OT ... sorry about that [14:09] * BUGabundo needs to learn to see in which # talk is going on [14:10] :) thanks for links [14:11] np [14:20] I just discovered that Realplayer has not been supported officially in Ubuntu for 3 years [14:20] but now there is Medibuntu [14:20] lol micahg [14:20] can I go clear out all the bugs related to realplayer for current releases [14:20] !medibuntu [14:20] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [14:21] yes [14:22] so here's what I did for one of them [14:22] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/69735 [14:26] micahg: looks good [14:27] so, should I do it to the rest of the realplayer bugs for versions > dapper? [14:27] micahg: we don't have RealPlayer, its 3rd party and closed [14:27] its not *our* bug [14:27] if medibuntu works, great, if it doesn't, complain to Real! [14:28] right, but there are plenty of issues in the bug tracker for Ubuntu [14:28] I figured I could clear them out [14:28] and that's exactly the point, it's not an ubuntu bug and shouldn't be in the bug tracker [14:29] I'm just trying to get a semi official ok to go convert about 15-20 bugs to questions [14:31] micahg: don't think most people will be able to give you one, but go ahead - sounds reasonable [14:31] micahg: you can upstream all medibuntu bugs and mark the ones for ubuntu as invalid [14:32] MB is hosted on LP so its easy [14:32] micahg, https://launchpad.net/medibuntu/ [14:34] micahg, the package should be medibuntu [14:35] hggdh: as I said, for all bugs just invalidate the ubuntu task and upstream it [14:36] BUGabundo: the problem, is that they probably aren't bugs at all, but just using bad deb packages [14:36] so, I don't want to clutter the Medibuntu bug tracker unnecessarily as I would hope that others wouldn't clutter ours, right? [14:37] humm if they are medibuntu packages, then they are bugs... [14:37] that's why I figure convert to qeustion [14:37] yes [14:37] of course it depends on what the user is stating [14:37] but they don't have the medibuntu stuff installed [14:37] yes [14:37] ah then its not a MB bug [14:37] LOL [14:37] ok [14:37] yes question is a better action for those cases [14:37] I'll go bug slaying... [14:38] always ask for apt-cache policy PACKAGE [14:38] and you will see the source... [14:38] if its not archive, most prob its not either our or MB bug [14:38] just someone who got a deb or source from somewhre (even not from real site, but some forum/blog) [14:39] yep, but since we don't even support realplayer anymore, I'm just going to refer them to medibuntu [14:40] there's no point going back and forth and cluttering up people's inboxes who are watching the answer tracker/bug tracker [14:40] yeah [14:41] but see what they have and how they got it [14:41] they should be removing and purging old stuff [14:41] even though it's not supported I should do this? [14:41] doesn't hurt, does it? [14:42] well, it's back and forth that might be unnecessary [14:42] if they add the medibuntu repo and upgrade [14:42] if ppl really want the mediubuntu one, and have some other source, it's a good, clean way to get it working [14:44] well, the thing is, if I'm replying to medibuntu issues in ubuntu, I can';t triage ubuntu things in ubuntu' [14:44] I agree with you in principle though [14:44] but the ubuntu backlog is large right now, no? [14:44] hum having that on Answers isn't that bad [14:45] micahg: bugs backlog? large? no!!!! [14:45] what backlog? ;-) [14:45] last time I heard some one making stats on it, if LP was closed for new bugs, it would take 5 years to triage all opened bugs [14:45] and that was last year [14:45] although bug jams seems to help A LOT [14:47] I've been trying to do about 10 a night, more info or convert to question [14:47] I'm not able to actually patch stuff yet [14:47] micahg: np [14:47] all your work is good... anyone can/should happened doing what one does best [14:49] yeah, I've only had positive feedback in here and from the users [14:51] micahg: eheh great [15:26] bug 367103, I'm tempted to convert to question because user seems confused [15:26] Launchpad bug 367103 in ubuntu "no audio on streaming radio sites" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/367103 [15:35] I've got to run out for a while, but if someone can answer ^^^^ when they get a chance, I'll check back later [15:36] micahg: let me read it [15:37] micahg: sound like either an audio bug, or codec one [15:37] should ask for apport info on both [15:44] realplayer? [15:46] who knows [15:46] user doesn't mention the origin of the stream [15:51] I was oging to ask which site first so we can determine which plugin has the trouble [15:52] ok [15:53] but I should keep it in the bug tracker for the moment? [15:53] sure [15:53] yes [15:53] it may end being an audio bug [15:54] but my suspistion goes with user error, or codec not installed [15:54] any one interessed http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/19607/ ? [15:55] brb rebboting to Karmic Koala 9.10 pre-alpha [15:55] I like the foundation behind the idea...of improving upstream communication [15:56] does brainstorm use the same logis launchpad?n a [16:26] micahg, I do not know, never been there [16:26] ok, nevermind, I jsut created an account [16:29] good evening [16:35] can someone mark 318359 as wishlist [16:35] oops [16:36] bug 318359 [16:36] micahg: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out [16:36] hey elena09 good to see you back, and that we didn't scare you too much [16:36] * BUGabundo kicks ubot4` and LP timeouts [16:36] bug 318359 [16:36] Launchpad bug 318359 in firefox "' - Mozilla Firefox' always appended to window title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318359 [16:37] * BUGabundo when all other means fails, try to kick it! [16:45] what do you mark upstream, non-ubuntu issues? [16:45] actually [16:46] scratch that [16:46] it is an ubuntu issue [16:48] eheh [16:49] micahg: how long have you been doing triage? [16:49] uh oh :) [16:49] ummm, about 2 weeks maybe [16:49] what did I do? === kyselejsyrecek is now known as kyselasyrecka [16:50] micahg: oh nothing bad AFAIK [16:50] just asking... [16:50] actually [16:50] only about a week :) [16:50] I thought I messed up on bug 318359 [16:50] Launchpad bug 318359 in firefox "' - Mozilla Firefox' always appended to window title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318359 [16:50] micahg: maybe you could apply for bug control in a month or so [16:51] ok [16:51] cool [16:51] does 5 a day mean you have to do 5 a day or can you average 35 a week? [16:52] bdmurray: ping ^^^^^^^^^^ [16:52] BUGabundo: can you wishlist 318359? [16:52] micahg: what did you do with that bug? seems fine, its an upstream bug, where the user can track it on LP too [16:52] yes, I added the upstream [16:52] looks good [16:52] but upstream will surelly mark it as won't fix [16:53] they like the PUB lol [16:53] but, I wanted to add a note to go to brainstorm to discuss removing the browser branding [16:53] micahg: and no, I can't change bugs prio. I'm not (yet??) on bug control team [16:53] micahg: again, this is not an Ubuntu bug, but an upstream one [16:53] ah [16:53] ok [16:54] well, for the moment it is in upstream control [16:54] and Mozilla is not quite good at accepting deltas from distros while mantainig the Branding [16:54] but, user wants epiphany behaviour which has no branding at all [16:54] which would be up to ubuntu if the upstream bug was taken care of [16:55] hggdh: can you wishlist one for me? [16:55] which one? [16:55] bug 318359 [16:55] Launchpad bug 318359 in firefox "' - Mozilla Firefox' always appended to window title" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/318359 [16:57] micahg: if Mozilla actually did that (which they won't, I think) then ubuntu would have the change too [16:57] micahg, whish-listed [16:57] thanks [16:58] BUGabundo: yes, but the upstream request is only for customiatio [16:58] BUGabundo, there is an upstream bug on that... so we let mozilla figure it out [16:58] ubuntu would then have the option for epiphany behaviour or not [16:58] customisation also means taking out [16:58] which couuld be discussed on bainstorm [16:58] *brainstorm [16:58] barnstorm? [16:59] barkstorm [16:59] ;) [16:59] :-D [16:59] I was wonderign what qualifies as triaged? [16:59] ah [16:59] you are member of Ubuntu Bug Control and made the call === kyselasyrecka is now known as kyselejsyrecek [17:02] hggdh: I'm assuming I should place the proper comments for the user still? [17:02] micahg: AFAICT "triage" is to go around bugs and trying to improve them so that the Dev as a GOOD bug report [17:02] micahg, what proper comments? [17:02] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/163627/ [17:03] micahg: yeah, feed back is always a good thing [17:03] hold on [17:03] humm LP can also fetch info from Mozilla bugzilla [17:04] micahg, yes, please do it [17:04] and there are a couple of typos in there [17:04] also, how long does ubuntu pastebin last? [17:04] would say a few days [17:04] BUGabundo: typos in my text? [17:04] "http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/ where " [17:05] I would go with "Brainstorm (URL HERE) is where...." [17:05] oh wait [17:05] its a two line sentence [17:05] sorry about that [17:05] heh [17:05] I shouldn't have discussed in there twice [17:06] BUGabundo: LP updated 10 minutes ago [17:14] It's cool that launchpad tells you if other bugs point to the same upstream bug [17:19] does it? [17:19] dind know that [17:19] micahg: do you have an example? [17:21] well, I set the upstream on bug 330449 [17:21] Launchpad bug 330449 in firefox "about: screen shows the wrong version number (dup-of: 194894)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/330449 [17:21] Launchpad bug 194894 in firefox "[MASTER] Firefox reports "version 1.9b3" in "about:"" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194894 [17:21] and it told me 2 other bugs had it set [17:24] Q about bug 365143 [17:24] Launchpad bug 365143 in firefox "Firefox should embed PDF's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/365143 [17:24] it's already possible [17:24] but, maybe user is asking if it shoudl be default? [17:24] I was going to convert to question [17:26] I could convert to question and still comment about brainstorm [17:32] ehe [17:33] you do love questions and BS lol [17:33] well, I want to clear out the bug tracker [17:33] * try to [17:33] eheh [17:33] great work! [17:33] so, q + bs? [17:33] or wishlist + bs? [17:35] actually, there's already a blueprint in launchpad for it [17:35] but it's 2.5 years old [17:36] for what? [17:36] embedded pdfs in FF [17:39] oh [17:39] I did Q + BS [17:47] asac ping [17:48] I'm wondering if bug 297369 is by design [17:48] micahg: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out [17:48] * micahg kicks ubot4` [17:48] bug 297369 [17:49] Launchpad bug 297369 in firefox-3.0 "About:config edit var" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/297369 [17:50] ahahaha [17:50] micahg: you already learn how that works!!!! by kicking the bot1 [17:50] :)))))) [17:50] I'm a quick study [17:51] quick *learner* you mean micahg [17:54] micahg, not sure. Let's try it [17:54] try to modify it? [17:54] the useragentswitch plugin is the easy way to do it [17:54] yes. (Although I am on 9.04, and the reporter on 8.04) [17:55] but i'm just want to know if it resets by design [17:55] I think it does [17:55] because there is an override value in there [17:55] http://kb.mozillazine.org/Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries#General..2A [17:56] hggdh: wondering if I should convert to Q and refer to useragenswitch plugin [17:58] I think it is a good idea, mostly because there is already a plugin to do that [17:58] ok [18:02] ahhh...bugs are addictive... [18:04] are they? [18:50] they are. They are addictive and multiplicative, have closure, but are uncountable [18:51] eheh [18:54] but... they are not abelian [18:58] hey guys, bug 129223 has some dups marked by apport, but no trace [18:58] Launchpad bug 129223 in willowng "willowng crashed with ImportError in ()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129223 [18:59] what would you like to do with it [19:01] Rocket2DMn: doesn't LP remove traces when it autodupes bugs? [19:01] BUGabundo, yes, but its strange b/c the parent bug doesnt have a trace [19:12] bug 259365 [19:12] Launchpad bug 259365 in firefox-3.0 "Please update Firefox 3 Thai locale from CVS" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259365 [19:12] fix was released by mozilla, and got into ubuntu [19:12] DO I mark Fix Released even though no upstream bug islsited? === maco_ is now known as macogw [19:21] micahg: is it in the repos? if so, sure, if not Fix Commited [19:21] yep [19:22] ok, so I had a bug that I converted to a Q, I just found a dup that [19:22] s a little more descriptive [19:22] but still should become a Q [19:28] nevermind [20:12] How do I check if a certain language version of FF is in ubuntu? [20:15] micahg: translation ? [20:15] it's not under that tab [20:19] BUGabundo: it appears to be there [20:19] but it's hard to find [20:19] i had to use google :( [20:22] micahg: dpkg -L language-pack-xx-base | grep firefox [20:22] where "xx" is the code of the language you want [20:24] what if I donm't have it installed [20:25] i might be wrong though [20:26] from what I see, they're like extensions [20:26] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions/langpack-el@firefox-3.0.ubuntu.com [20:27] micahg: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=language-pack- [20:28] you select a release and under "Files" there's a link [list of files] [20:29] ok [20:29] What I was looking for isn't there [20:29] so it didn't make it in yet [20:29] i'm trying to find a bug report about xorg on radeon crashing when the screen saver is running, does anyone know about it? [20:29] on jaunty [20:30] micahg: which language? [20:31] it doesn't show all the language packages there unforunately [20:31] http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/language-pack-xx-base <- xx = your language code [20:32] et [20:35] I'm having issues similar to bug #345900, but I'm not sure what I should do to provide more information or fix.. [20:35] Pici: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out [20:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyglet/+bug/345900 [20:36] Launchpad bug 345900 in ubuntu "opengl issues with ati FireGL card" [Undecided,New]