[00:48] <elexodus> any of you guys feel like banning a troll
[00:48] <elexodus> ?
[00:48] <elexodus> He's being disruptive
[00:48] <elexodus> ...
[00:49] <Seeker`> some more information would be nice
[00:50] <elexodus> His handle is lazermann, he want advice on how to install windows drivers, and upgrade from jaunty to Windows 95...
[00:51] <Seeker`> I can't do anything about it myself, but i'm sure someone will be about to keep an eye on him
[00:51] <Seeker`> thanks
[00:52] <elexodus> np
[00:54] <bazhang> urgh.
[00:55] <Seeker`> elexodus: thanks. Can I ask you to take note of the channel topic
[00:55] <elexodus> Channel topic?
[00:56] <Seeker`> Basically, please don't idle in here :)
[00:56] <elexodus> Oh, sure.
[00:56] <elexodus> See y'all
[00:56] <LjL> sebsebseb is ridiculous really
[00:56] <bazhang> *just* woke up
[00:59] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/163179/ just tell me if this amount of afterkick makes sense.
[00:59] <LjL> the quake in l'aquila had fewer aftershocks.
[01:02] <bazhang> * [xcdfgkjhgcv] (n=xcdfgjkh@5ad04595.bb.sky.com): xcdfgjkhgcv  <--- bolt_ ?
[01:04] <LjL> bazhang: it's not the last address he's had, but maybe
[01:04] <LjL> he's also in #eeepc-ot if that means anything to you
[01:04] <bazhang> LjL, I just remember the bb.sky.com from yesterday
[01:05] <elky> does the behaviour match
[01:05] <bazhang> not said anything yet elky 
[01:05] <LjL> probably just another troll
[01:05] <LjL> xcdfetc has trolled before
[01:09] <bazhang> and is trolling again; recommending overclocking and defrag linux system right off the bat
[01:10] <elky> that was not bolt. spelling is too good
[01:10] <bazhang> unless bolt_ was faking before with his 'doggy language'
[01:13] <bazhang> now he is in #kubuntu
[01:19] <Seeker`> xcdfgblahblahblah is banned on-sight from -uk
[01:19] <bazhang> anyone with access in #kubuntu may want to keep an eye on him
[02:05] <bazhang> yikes
[02:06] <LjL> remove the rR manually if the bots don't very shortly
[02:06] <bazhang> seems like troll day. check out superdweeb in +1 as well
[02:06] <LjL> it was a double +rR because the mibbiter was registered and did it twice, so it's going to last longer
[02:14] <genii> Damn. Lots of Q in #k which I have no solutions or suggestions on, and seems no one else there does either.
[02:14] <bazhang> new releases always have tough questions until the wiki are updated and bugs sorted :)
[02:15]  * genii stays incognito
[02:44]  * genii makes more coffee
[02:48] <Seeker`> hi
[02:51] <genii> Hi Seeker`
[02:53]  * Seeker` is rewriting MootBot in supybot
[02:54] <genii> Seeker`: For -classroom or so?
[03:00] <Seeker`> for wherever it is at present
[03:01] <Seeker`> /msg Mootbot #listchans
[03:03] <genii> Cool
[03:03] <genii> Like a secretary :)
[03:04] <Seeker`> pretty much :)
[03:04] <genii> I worked with eggdrop before, somewhat frustrating
[03:05] <Seeker`> I found eggdrop quite easy
[03:05] <Seeker`> taught it to myself in a week or so
[03:06] <Seeker`> this is before I knew how to program properly (i.e. pre-uni)
[03:09] <genii> :)
[03:11] <Pici> tcl really bothered me when I tried to use eggdrop, I suspect I'd be better at it now that I'm a bit more comfortable with tcl
[03:12] <Seeker`> why did it bother you?
[03:18] <Pici> I don't remember, I think it had to due with variable scope.  I was trying to hack at a plugin that already existed
[03:19] <Seeker`> ah, when I started I didn't know that much about programming
[03:19] <Seeker`> so even not-so-subtle "problems" didn't bother me
[03:19] <Pici> Me either, that may have been the problem as well.,
[03:20] <Pici> I use tcl for an application at work, and its pretty easy now.
[03:20] <Seeker`> cool
[03:21] <Amaranth> aww
[03:21] <Amaranth> stupid bot
[03:21] <Amaranth> @login
[04:28] <ripps> MRSeptic is spamming #ubuntu
[04:30] <Seeker`> is noone going to sort this out?
[04:30] <genii> Looks like no #u ops around 
[04:31] <Seeker`> >.<
[04:31] <Seeker`> HOW can there not be anyone around with ops in #u?!
[04:31] <genii> Apparently it can happen
[04:31] <Seeker`> there are 40 people in the access list
[04:32] <genii> Yup
[04:32] <genii> And none seem awake/around
[04:32] <Seeker`> @mark #ubuntu MrSeptic spamming, no ops around to deal with the issue
[04:35] <Seeker`> how can we help you?
[04:35] <MRSeptic> you ops fail
[04:35] <MRSeptic> ive been trolling in #ubuntu for like 5 mins 
[04:36] <MRSeptic> ha
[04:38] <ripps> Seeker` genii, don't you guys have op powers?
[04:38] <Seeker`> no
[04:38] <Seeker`> not there anyway
[04:41] <NTFS> YOU OPS ARE LAZY
[04:42] <Seeker`> nb: how can we help?
[04:43] <NTFS> ban me
[04:43] <NTFS> come on
[04:44] <NTFS> YEAH WAKE UP
[04:44] <Seeker`> genii: no point spamming the ops call any more, its going to show up on anyones hilight as soon as they get back anyway
[04:44] <NTFS> SEEKER YOUR AN OP
[04:45] <Seeker`> ikonia: how can we help oyu?
[04:45] <IndyGunFreak> are there any ops to kick ntfs in #ubuntu?.. 
[04:45] <Seeker`> sadly not
[04:45] <NTFS> i am about to get klined
[04:45] <NTFS> yay\
[04:45] <Seeker`> they seem to have all gone on holiday together or something
[04:46] <rww> Fujisan is ban evading in #ubuntu-offtopic. His unaffiliated cloak is banned, but he's in there without it.
[04:46] <NTFS> lazy ops
[04:47] <Seeker`> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic Fujisan Ban evading - ban on cloak ony
[04:47] <Seeker`> rww: thanks
[04:47] <rww> Seeker`: no problem
[04:48] <NTFS> @mark NTFS
[04:48] <Seeker`> IndyGunFreak: anything else we can do to help you?
[04:48] <Seeker`> ripps: how can we help you?
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> nope
[04:48] <ripps> nothing much, just waiting to wee if an op comes around to kill NTFS
[04:49] <Seeker`> Can I ask both of you not to idle in this channel please?
[04:49] <ripps> okay, sorry. 
[04:49] <Seeker`> thanks
[04:50] <Seeker`> IndyGunFreak: Please don't idle in here
[04:54] <Seeker`> @mark #ubuntu-ops NTFS taunting, MrSeptic
[04:55] <Seeker`> IndyGunFreak: please leave
[05:03] <Seeker`> @mark 
[05:04] <Seeker`> @mark #ubuntu nophilter lazerman
[05:04] <Seeker`> hi Madpilot 
[05:04] <Madpilot> hi Seeker` 
[05:04] <Seeker`> you've missed a lot of fun 
[05:05] <Seeker`> 30 mins of spamming in #ubuntu, no ops around
[05:05] <genii> Madpilot: We could have used ya a while ago
[05:06] <genii> (or any #u op)
[05:06] <Madpilot> oh, good fun. I miss all the entertainment these days.
[05:06] <genii> Hehe
[05:06] <Seeker`> Fujisan is in #ubuntu-offtopic, his cloak is banned but it seems he doesn't have it any more
[05:06] <Madpilot> was he our half-hour spammer?
[05:06] <Seeker`> IndyGunFreak: is idling in here, has been asked several time to leave by me, isn't leaving
[05:06] <genii> Madpilot: No
[05:06] <Seeker`> Madpilot: no, MrSeptic/ Macrophage / NTFS was
[05:07] <genii> What I said in #freenode and #defocus :: We have a troll in #ubuntu with no active ops for there. Also he is now in #ubuntu-ops taunting , etc etc. Please assist.MRSeptic/Microphage/NTFS   keeps nick swapping
[05:07] <genii> Etc
[05:08] <Madpilot> good to go to #freenode, you can yell for staff there. There's also the <bang>staff tell in the bot
[05:08] <Madpilot> like <bang>ops except it brings out the klines and other heavy artillery
[05:08] <Seeker`> no staff active atm
[05:08] <Madpilot> meh
[05:08] <Seeker`> have a look for the @mark on NTFS in the bantracker for this channel
[05:08] <Madpilot> @login
[05:08] <Madpilot> @btlogin
[05:09] <genii> Madpilot: Damn, didn't know about the <bang>staff 
[05:09] <Seeker`> from 03:34 on the timestamp there
[05:09] <Madpilot> I didn't know about the mark command, myself. Nifty.
[05:09] <Seeker`> @mark
[05:10] <Madpilot> good to know
[05:10] <Madpilot> note that <bang>staff is a ubottu thing, not a freenode thing. wont work in #freenode
[05:11] <genii> Ah, OK
[05:11] <genii> Madpilot: Anyhow the guy was fairly nasty. Eventually he basically got tired
[05:12] <Madpilot> awesome. at least it was an actual person - spambots don't get bored...
[05:12] <genii> Hehe
[05:12] <genii> It's frustrating as all hell when you can't do much :/
[05:12] <Madpilot> ya
[05:12] <Seeker`> genii++
[05:12] <Seeker`> Madpilot: I once again draw your attention to "fujisan" in -offtopic
[05:13] <Seeker`> appears to have a ban on the cloak for Fujisan
[05:13] <Seeker`> but not on an ip
[05:15] <Madpilot> I can't see a ban in -offtopic for him. Or is it a #u ban?
[05:15] <Seeker`> Madpilot: there is one in -offtopic
[05:15] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, make that a ban as well as a kick for our spammer in #u
[05:16] <genii> Madpilot: There is no ban. No one was around to ban him
[05:16] <Seeker`> #ubuntu-offtopic *!*@unaffiliated/fujisan!##unavailable Automated-Addition Jun 28 2008 07:30:23 
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: repeat?
[05:16] <genii> sorry, wrong user
[05:16]  * genii retreats to go have more coffee
[05:17] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso, the URL spammer you just kicked in #ubuntu - add a ban to that, spammers suck.
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> They do, but then I have to remember to clean it out later :P
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> He's on my hilight list though, so anything else will.
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> like that
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> (/abr is easier to type than manually opping, adding, deopping too...)
[05:18] <Seeker`> Madpilot: Fujisan ban was set sometime in 2008, not marked as removed int he bantracker, and is shown as banned in #kubuntu-offtopic more recently
[05:18] <Madpilot> kickban is our friend and yours :)
[05:19] <Madpilot> Seeker`, I sort of recognise the nick, as one of the regulars who sometimes pushes things a bit far
[05:19] <Seeker`> yeah, has been around for a while
[05:21] <Madpilot> if he's not currently causing trouble, I'm inclined to leave well enough alone
[05:21] <Seeker`> fair enough
[05:39] <Seeker`> right, 05:39 == bedtime
[05:59] <genii> Bah. "swine flu swine flu" all freaking week long.
[05:59] <genii> ( #u-offtopic)
[06:00] <Madpilot> If you've ever heard someone promise something "when pigs fly", now is the time to collect. After all, swine flue.
[06:00] <Madpilot> flu, even
[06:00] <genii> Heh. Some ppl are getting pretty upset in there right now
[06:04] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot: nicely done
[06:05] <Madpilot> Not my pun, but I'm shamelessly repeating it all over the intarwebz because it's great.
[06:10] <genii> There seems to be no escape for me :)
[06:20] <genii> Madpilot: Hehe "screen full of lines"
[06:20] <Madpilot> I love error reports like that.
[06:21] <Madpilot> those sorts of bug reports over on Launchpad must drive the bug triagers insane.
[06:22] <genii> I'm still laughing some here
[06:27] <Flannel> genii: Swine flu makes you taste of bacon!
[06:27] <genii> Wasn't that something Stephen Colbert said recently?
[06:28] <Flannel> Erm, I wouldn't know.  But I've been saying it since the beginning!
[06:32] <Madpilot> from swine flu to cougars. not sure that's an improvement.
[06:33] <Madpilot> ah, -offtopic is awesome. Being an op would be dead boring without it.
[06:36] <Madpilot> of course, the ops have to do their bit to keep -ot properly surreal. :)
[06:37] <genii> Flannel: Madpilot's remark reminds me we had no #u ops earlier for a persisten troll there. And he came in here as well to torture us for a while too.
[06:47] <Flannel> I noticed the pings
[06:49] <genii> Do they get some extra-special treatment when they do crap like that? I'm just curious mostly
[06:49] <Flannel> uh
[06:50] <Flannel> It'll certainly be harder for them to plead their case.
[06:50] <genii> Hm
[06:55] <genii> @btlogin
[06:57] <genii> Flannel: They are not in bantracker as banned. Since no ops for that channel were here at the time
[06:57] <genii> There's just Seeker` s @mark
[06:59] <genii> MRSeptic@c-24-128-75-137.hsd1.ma.comcast.net
[07:17] <genii> bazhang: You're alive!
[07:17] <bazhang> genii, yep; had to go shopping this morning. sorry to miss all of the 'fun'
[07:18] <genii> Ah
[07:18] <bazhang> that mrseptic/ntfs etc has a long history of trolling and ban-evading
[07:19] <genii> This is the first I've seen them. Nasty anyhow
[07:19] <bazhang> very. odd that everyone with access was absent.
[07:21] <genii> Yes, it was pretty frustrating. Especially when they show up in -ops and carry on etc etc
[07:22] <bazhang> I saw that. weird considering that two are opped in #u as well
[07:22] <genii> Maybe they just "left their hats on" as such
[07:23] <bazhang> I'm sure that's what it was.
[07:23] <Madpilot> the two op'd in #u are also marked /away
[07:23] <Madpilot> which really isn't useful
[07:26] <genii> Well, 2:25am so gonna try to get some sleep. Take care people
[07:26] <bazhang> night
[08:22] <Madpilot>  sudo rm -rf stupidity in #u. kb'd
[08:37] <Madpilot> is #kubuntu actually quiet currently, or is UbbyCD in #u just whinging?
[08:46]  * jussi01 wanders in sleepily
[09:24] <Myrtti> hi
[09:25] <Madpilot> morning Myrtti 
[09:25] <elky> surviving finland?
[09:28] <Myrtti> sunburns from Vappu are healing
[09:29] <Myrtti> did bbq on the balcony yesterday
[09:29] <Myrtti> I still haven't touched my laptop since Thursday
[09:29] <elky> heh
[09:30]  * elky huggles Myrtti
[09:30] <elky> how's your mum?
[09:32] <Myrtti> haven't seen her yet, going doewn south prolly tomorrow. she seems cheery but nervous about the hip surgery
[12:47] <Seeker`> is S4th3N actually banned in #u?
[12:47] <Seeker`> cant see anything relevant in the BT
[12:48] <bazhang> he meant from -pl
[12:48] <Seeker`> fair enough
[12:49] <bazhang> whoa paste-mania in #kubuntu
[12:49]  * Seeker` isn
[12:49] <Seeker`> t in #k
[12:50] <bazhang> easily the most I've seen pasted in channel anywhere ever, like some diagnostic read out or something
[12:51] <tsimpson> full threaded backtrace...
[12:51] <bazhang> heh 6 minute paste
[13:02] <bazhang> * [d0_0d] (n=lol@5ad2a8c9.bb.sky.com): Lol
[13:02] <bazhang> @bansearch bolt_
[13:05] <bazhang> bolt_!n=bolt@5ad6be03.bb.sky.com wonder if that was him
[13:06] <Seeker`> don;t know, but it probably will drive you insane if you try and keep an eye on every bb.sky.com user in case they are bolt_
[13:07] <bazhang> true
[13:07] <elky> if it starts with 5ad it's a good chance of being bolt
[13:07] <tsimpson> *!*@*?
[13:08] <bazhang> the spelling looked familiar
[13:08] <Seeker`> tsimpson: I'm sure that would stop him :)
[13:08] <evilGary> thats a wide match :-)
[13:08] <elky> everyone else who matters seems to be 5ac*
[13:09] <Seeker`> Xintruder is 5ad*
[13:09] <tsimpson> I mean: <ubottu> Match: *!*@* by bazhang in #ubuntu on May 03 2009 06:22:55 (ID: 13081)
[13:10] <elky> tsimpson, a mark
[13:10] <elky> probably against someone who had left by that point
[13:11] <tsimpson> that needs fixing
[13:11] <tsimpson> @bansearch elky
[13:11] <bazhang> :0
[13:12] <elky> someone with db access want to mangle that?
[13:15] <elky> Seeker`, yeah, you're right. we're just going to have to play whack-a-mole when it's clearly him
[13:15] <elky> not when it's someone who happens to use the same isp
[13:22]  * tsimpson removed 8 bans on *!*@* from the database
[13:22] <Seeker`> nice
[13:22] <tsimpson> it'll take a little while for the bot to sync though
[13:23] <tsimpson> @bansearch tsimpson 
[13:23] <tsimpson> 26 channels to go
[13:23] <Seeker`> that looks better
[13:23] <bazhang> thought I broke the bt
[13:23] <Seeker`> bazhang: you did :P
[13:24] <tsimpson> how did you @mark?
[13:25] <bazhang> for bolt_ dont recall ever doing so, and cant find in the bt
[13:25] <tsimpson> I mean today, the *!*@* one
[13:26] <tsimpson> want to find out if *!*@* is something the bot "generated"
[13:26] <bazhang> aha was for cybertron/lazerman/lazermann iirc
[13:26] <Seeker`> bazhang: where did you type it?
[13:27] <elky> seeker's the one who has been on the marking spree today
[13:27] <bazhang> in the ubottu window as always, @mark #channel nicks
[13:27] <tsimpson> 2009-05-03T06:22:55 *** bazhang requested a mark for *
[13:27] <Seeker`> elky: yup
[13:28] <Seeker`> elky: wasn't much else I could do
[13:28] <tsimpson> did you put in the nick in or *!*@*?
[13:28] <bazhang> tsimpson, that is weird, perhaps he had quit before I hit send
[13:28] <tsimpson> it shouldn't matter
[13:28] <bazhang> put the nick in, wouldn't make much sense to put other
[13:29] <bazhang> the last mark, though I did notice a slight delay (longer than usual) until I got 'the operation succeeded'
[13:30] <tsimpson> bt code is a little, erm, messy
[13:30] <bazhang> apologies if it was the net on my end, or hiccup here.
[13:31] <Seeker`> tsimpson++
[13:31] <tsimpson> I think it's more likely to be my code
[13:32] <bazhang> though after the onslaught of this morning, perhaps the bt got overloaded with marks and such
[13:32] <Seeker`> I would imagine its a problem in self.nick_to_host
[13:33] <tsimpson> self.doLog(irc, channel.lower(), '*** %s requested a mark for %s\n' % (msg.nick, target))
[13:33] <tsimpson> target is not altered from the command...
[13:35] <Seeker`> but isn't it the doKickban function that actually adds it to the BT
[13:35] <Seeker`> which uses hostmask
[13:36] <tsimpson> yes, but the log said the mark was requested for "*"
[13:36] <Seeker`> bazhang: do you still have the query window open with ubottu ?
[13:42] <tsimpson> I can see how @mark #ubuntu * ...  would return *!*@*
[13:43] <Seeker`> tsimpson: yeah, that would be understandable
[13:43] <Seeker`> tsimpson: would be useful to actually see what bazhang typed though :)
[13:43] <tsimpson> yeah
[13:46] <stdin> quit
[13:47] <tsimpson> @mark #ubuntu-ops stdin (n=stdin@ubuntu/member/stdin)
[13:47] <tsimpson> that worked ok
[13:52] <bazhang> @mark #kubuntu xcdfgjkhgcv removed from #ubuntu for trolling
[13:52] <bazhang> that is the oops
[13:52] <bazhang> :(
[13:53] <bazhang> that is the one that did it I believe
[13:53] <Seeker`> -15:02:53- :ubottu : Match: *!*@* by bazhang in #ubuntu on May 03 2009 06:22:55 (ID: 13081)
[13:53] <Seeker`> it was for #ubuntu not #kubuntu
[13:54] <Seeker`> can you not look at the timestamps in the query with ubottu?
[13:54] <bazhang> of course. that is what I did
[13:54] <tsimpson> [Guest22028] (n=mike@c-68-51-204-164.hsd1.ga.comcast.net random offtopic and nasty part message
[13:54] <tsimpson> it was that one
[13:55] <Seeker`> no closing bracket?
[13:55] <tsimpson> not according to the log
[13:56] <bazhang> a  *  seems to have gotten in before the [guestetc]
[13:57] <tsimpson> ah
[13:57] <bazhang> was this mark #ubuntu * [Guest22028 (plus @)
[13:59] <tsimpson> @mark * [Guest22028] (n=mike@c-68-51-204-164.hsd1.ga.comcast.net testing and stuff
[13:59] <tsimpson> that's better
[13:59] <bazhang> my sincere apologies tsimpson , no idea how that got in there, must have been a careless copy/paste on my part
[14:00] <tsimpson> don't worry about it, the BT should be immune to it now :)
[14:00] <bazhang> okay thanks :)
[14:34] <LjL> i'd have a look at phix.
[14:42] <Seeker`> do you reckon phix should be told to take it to -offtopic?
[14:42] <LjL> he should take it to efnet for all i'm concerned
[14:43] <LjL> not a coincidence i had him on highlight for sure
[14:44] <Seeker`> what language is TUPLE_ trying to speak?
[14:44] <Seeker`> *TUPE
[14:44] <Seeker`> gah, typing sucks
[14:45] <LjL> no idea
[14:45] <Slart> Hello ops..can't someone please tell TUPUE_  to behave? I don't know how many languages he's tried so far
[14:46] <LjL> the last one seemed fake
[14:46] <LjL> at least, if it's a real language, it's one i'd like to learn
[14:46] <Slart> =)
[14:47] <LjL> Seeker`: before the last message, the rest was french
[14:47] <LjL> and kind of abusive
[14:50] <Seeker`> @bansearch phix
[14:50] <LjL> orly
[14:50] <Seeker`> ya rly
[14:52] <LjL> that explains the funny-colored highlight for sure.
[14:52] <Seeker`> yeah, there are a few entries for him
[14:53] <LjL> Seeker`: -ot now
[14:55] <Seeker`> does "TUPUE_ : i kicketen bouletten #ubuntu-it." mean anything?
[14:56] <LjL> Seeker`: not really
[14:56] <LjL> gnomefreak: no, i'm not
[14:57] <gnomefreak> oh i miss so much :(
[14:57] <Seeker`> LjL: cant find anything for kiwi or digitalkiwi on the BY
[14:57] <LjL> Seeker`: he's an archlinux troll, sure he wasn't banned the last time a lot of those people were?
[14:57] <Seeker`> @bansearch digitalkiwi
[14:58] <Seeker`> @bansearch kiwi
[15:00] <LjL> Seeker`: he wasn't banned before, you're right and so is he. sorry. i remembered wrong because i was *about* to ban him, but didn't.
[15:01] <Seeker`> its ******* difficult to keep track of what is going on atm
[15:03] <LjL> mion and digitalwiki are both archlinux people
[15:07] <LjL> why am i thinking phix and fde are related?
[15:07] <LjL> also, why does "Francis Earl" (fde) ring very much of a bell?
[15:08] <Seeker`> nothing obvious in BT for fde
[15:08] <LjL> not sure about fde-the-nickname, it's the realname that rings a bell for me
[15:09] <elky> he's a general douche
[15:09] <LjL> [Tue Nov 28 2006] [17:42:27] Whois      lunitik is n=lunitik@unaffiliated/lunitik (Francis Earl)
[15:09] <LjL> duh
[15:09] <LjL> of course he rings a bell
[15:09] <LjL> it's the guy seveas left because.
[15:10] <elky> oh, right
[15:10] <Seeker`> would that be requireing a ban then?
[15:10] <elky> i really need to go to bed at some point RSN
[15:10] <LjL> i believe he's ban evading, as unaffiliated/lunitik is still on the ban list.
[15:11] <elky> LjL, in -ot?
[15:11] <LjL> elky: yes
[15:11] <LjL> probably in both
[15:11] <Seeker`> and #u
[15:11] <LjL> in #u, ikonia banned him, perhaps he got unbanned and then later banned again
[15:11] <LjL> in -ot, i suspect it was never removed in the first place
[15:12] <Seeker`> om paul removed it, ikonia readded it
[15:12] <LjL> at any rate, that was supposed to be a permban, and unless this is another Francis Earl, which i doubt... he's also using different cloaks to evade
[15:12] <Seeker`> no, wait
[15:12] <Seeker`> ikonia removed it
[15:12] <Seeker`> then readded it 4 mins later
[15:12] <LjL> probably removed by mistake then
[15:12] <elky> !staff ^^ could you kindly un-cloak this ban evader
[15:13] <Seeker`> elky: do you want to remove him from #u, or shall I?
[15:13] <elky> you can
[15:14] <elky> in PM <fde> who is lunitik? why did you kick me again?
[15:14] <Seeker`> tell him to come here? I just got the same
[15:14] <elky> Seeker`, you'll get it too, just ignore him
[15:14] <LjL> elky: staff should be able to tell whether they're the same person if the IP is similar. not that they'd tell you, but they'd certainly reach their own conclusions about what to do with cloaks, if you see my point
[15:15] <elky> [Tue Nov 28 2006] [17:42:27] Whois      lunitik is n=lunitik@unaffiliated/lunitik (Francis Earl)
[15:15] <fde> Why am I getting banned from Ubuntu channels being accused of being lunitik? I am not this person...
[15:15] <fde> Ok, so because I have the same name... I am someone else?
[15:15] <elky> it works for me.
[15:16] <LjL> fde: aside from the fact that the nickname "fde" was registered just about when "lunitik" ceased being used?
[15:16] <fde> As far as I know, ignoring people is not against the Ubuntu social contract, why are you having a problem with me?
[15:17] <fde> Please remove the ban, I am not this lunitik person
[15:19] <fde> That's messed up, first time I've ever been punished based on just my name... lol
[15:19] <LjL> [02:00] *** fde!n=fearl@unaffiliated/fde has joined #ubuntu
[15:19] <LjL> [12:12] *** fearl!n=fearl@unaffiliated/lunitik has joined #ubuntu
[15:19] <elky> works for me.
[15:20] <elky> !staff | see above. thanks!
[15:20] <LjL> [16:15:39] [Notice] -NickServ- Information on lunitik (account fearl): [16:15:39] [Notice] -NickServ- Last seen  : (about 52 weeks ago)
[15:21] <LjL> [16:15:41] [Notice] -NickServ- Information on fde (account fde): [16:15:42] [Notice] -NickServ- Registered : Apr 29 23:47:40 2008 (1 year, 0 weeks, 3 days, 14:28:01 ago)
[15:21] <LjL> now, how long is 52 weeks ago?
[15:21] <LjL> he really must think we're idiots
[15:22] <elky> if only he could have stayed for the show
[15:24] <LjL> phix is totally uncalled for, really
[15:27] <elky> LjL, he's gone
[15:27] <elky> LjL, i had to get clothes out of the washing machine
[15:28] <LjL> [16:28:04] --> fde has joined this channel (n=fde@ip98-165-92-182.ph.ph.cox.net).
[15:30] <fde> elky: what can I do to convince you I'm not that lunatik person? I wasn't ban evading though, I just started my client again
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[15:31] <fde> elky: what does that prove? I'm telling you that isn't me....
[15:31] <LjL> ah well of course THAT proves everything
[15:31] <elky> and i'm telling you we're not idiots.
[15:32] <fde> elky: Honestly, I don't even like Ubuntu, Fedora Preview just isn't working for me, so I figured I'd help some more in #ubuntu, and I was being polite. I was only going to be around until F11 final  :/
[15:32] <fde> elky: bugs me I'm banned for no reason though, that's stupid... just based on your assumption?
[15:32] <gnomefreak> i only saw him use bad lanuage and only once. and why dont we have !langauge 
[15:32] <elky> your services are no longer required.
[15:33] <elky> gnomefreak, his attitude in general has been sour.
[15:33] <fde> Mine?
[15:33] <gnomefreak> ah ok 
[15:34] <fde> elky: I thought this community was supposed pride itself on being welcoming etc... yet I'm banned because my name matches someone else?
[15:35] <LjL> NickServ- Information on lunitik (account fearl):  -NickServ- Last seen  : (about 52 weeks ago)
[15:35] <LjL> NickServ- Information on fde (account fde): -NickServ- Registered : Apr 29 23:47:40 2008 (1 year, 0 weeks, 3 days, 14:28:01 ago)
[15:38] <fde> lol... I've been praised by users in the channel for assisting them, and this is how I'm treated? No wonder this community has the actual reputation it currently has... you get rid of all the knowledgeable people. What a joke, but good luck with that philosophy... bye
[15:39] <LjL> a @mark not to forget about the reasons to link him to lunitik?
[15:39] <Seeker`> @mark #ubuntu-ops fde fde is lunitik
[15:40] <phix> too many arrogant pricks here
[15:40] <phix> e.g. LjL 
[15:40] <LjL> i certainly see one
[15:40] <elky> that population grew within the past 30 seconds
[15:40] <phix> elky: did LjL just join/.
[15:40] <phix> ?
[15:41] <elky> phix, no, you did.
[15:41] <elky> tell me why exactly should we take you seriously?
[15:41] <phix> elky: before LjL joined of corse
[15:42] <elky> forget about ljl. why the heck should i take you seriously?
[15:42] <phix> elky: who said you should?  don't ubuntu ppl get humour?
[15:42] <elky> insulting homosexual people is not funny.
[15:42] <phix> elky: I wasnt
[15:42] <gnomefreak> is it !bleh is reply bleh bleh to add something to bot i cant remember its been so long
[15:42] <elky> yes you were.
[15:42] <phix> i love homosecxual ppl
[15:43] <LjL> gnomefreak: !bleh is <reply> bleh bleh
[15:43] <elky> then why use a derogatory term such as 'fag'?
[15:43] <phix> elky: because I am refering to it in a differn term?
[15:43] <elky> oh? which?
[15:43] <Seeker`> phix: what term was that?
[15:44] <phix> the term that doesn't insult fags
[15:44] <phix> for being fags
[15:44] <gnomefreak> LjL: thanks. also bot doesnt have !info for pastebinit
[15:44] <elky> the ban stays. he is unwilling to behave by the rules.
[15:44] <gnomefreak> it should read from archives i thought
[15:44] <LjL> elky: besides, he has past history of bans.
[15:44] <LjL> !info pastebinit | gnomefreak, yes it does?
[15:44] <ubot4`> LjL: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.2-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 21 kB, installed size 344 kB
[15:45] <phix> how is the word fag a derogatory term?
[15:45] <phix> the fags I know like that word
[15:45] <phix> they use it with pride
[15:45] <gnomefreak> oh let me check something
[15:45] <phix> are you being derogatory for thinkng otherwise
[15:45] <phix> ?
[15:45] <elky> phix, i know several gay people who find it insulting.
[15:45] <gnomefreak> LjL: it worked that time
[15:46] <phix> are you saying that fags arn't proud of being a fag?
[15:46] <phix> elky: perhaps they should harden the f*ck up
[15:46] <elky> then you can harden up and accept life without our channels.
[15:46] <phix> elky: and be a real fag
[15:46] <phix> how do they correlate?
[15:46] <Seeker`> I don't think this is going anywhere
[15:47] <gnomefreak> LjL: i think it was the space before the !
[15:47] <elky> Seeker`, nor do i. ban stays for at least 48 hours. i go to bed now.
[15:47] <phix> how does severall ppl finding that word insulting and speaking on an open source channel corrolate?
[15:47] <phix> I thought open source ppl had open minds too>
[15:48] <Seeker`> phix: if you want to be unbanned, come back in 48 hours and we can discuss this again
[15:48] <phix> Seeker`: can I prv msg you?
[15:48] <elky> in the mean time
[15:48] <Seeker`> phix: I would prefer it if you didn't
[15:48] <elky> !guidelines
[15:48] <phix> Seeker`: do you like to spoon?
[15:49] <elky> night.
[15:49] <LjL> elky: night
[15:49] <elky> 72 hours now.
[15:49] <phix> elky: what? spooning adds another 2 days?
[15:49] <phix> elky: is this channel homophobic?
[15:49] <phix> :)
[15:49] <Seeker`> another 1 day actually
[15:49] <elky> phix, learn math.
[15:50] <phix> elky: oh, 1 more day?
[15:50] <phix> :)
[15:50] <elky> 48x2 is not 72
[15:50] <gnomefreak> is jussi01  still running the bot?
[15:50] <LjL> gnomefreak: and stdin, yes
[15:50] <phix> elky: 24*3 is though
[15:51] <gnomefreak> LjL: thanks
[15:51] <elky> phix, please leave. you are wasting our time.
[15:51] <phix> elky: or 48+24
[15:51] <phix> elky: no
[15:52] <gnomefreak> jussi01: is there a way to make bot ignore a space before !bleh so it still gives output
[15:52] <LjL> normally it did
[15:52] <LjL> i guess not with info
[15:52] <elky> does someone here have access here?
[15:52] <LjL> info used to be in encyclopedia but it's its own plugin now
[15:52] <Seeker`> I dont
[15:52] <LjL> elky: gnomefreak does
[15:52] <gnomefreak> i do
[15:53] <elky> good. night mkII
[15:53] <Seeker`> nn
[15:53] <gnomefreak>  !info pastebinit
[15:53] <LjL>  !test
[15:53] <LjL> ! ping
[15:53] <LjL> it's just !info
[15:54] <gnomefreak> LjL: is there a way to fix that or is that in the bots script
[15:55] <LjL> gnomefreak: i don't really know, why do you need it fixed?
[15:56] <gnomefreak> need wouldnt be the term i would use maybe just want. but its not important just helps me when i screw up 
[15:57] <LjL> gnomefreak: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimpson/ubuntu-bots/tweak has the source, i think PackageInfo is the plugin you're after
[15:57] <gnomefreak> LjL: thanks i will look at it when im done with email
[15:58] <tsimpson> @reload PackageInfo
[15:58] <ubot4`> tsimpson: Error: You don't have the owner capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[15:58] <tsimpson>  !info pastebinit
[15:59]  * tsimpson get's his hammer
[16:00] <tsimpson> ubottu: @reload PackageInfo
[16:00] <tsimpson> ubottu: reload PackageInfo
[16:00] <tsimpson>  !info pastebinit
[16:10] <gnomefreak> tsimpson: thanks i didnt think reloading would help it
[16:10] <tsimpson> gnomefreak: reloading after edit the files does ;)
[16:10] <gnomefreak> ah :)
[16:10] <tsimpson> just needed to .strip() the input
[16:18] <LjL> look who's online
[16:18] <LjL> [17:18:21] [Who] lunitik is n=fde@unaffiliated/lunitik (Francis Earl)
[16:18] <LjL> and in #fedora, as he indeed had said he would :)
[16:18] <Seeker`> haha
[17:11] <LjL> what?
[17:13] <Seeker`> ?
[17:13] <LjL> nothing.
[17:27] <Seeker`> how many times will AlsaPCM get muted by the bots do you reckon?
[17:35] <LjL> dudedano 1) is from an ipv6 address 2) claims to have installed ubuntu using a youtube video tutorial apparently 3) asks if he should switch to gentoo
[17:35] <LjL> sounds like a troll to me :)
[18:22] <Chr|s> hey guys, how would I request something to be added to !ubottu?
[18:22] <Seeker`> by saying !something is what you think it should be
[18:22] <maco> you can try to set it yourself and then the folks in #ubuntu-irc can approve or denyy
[18:23] <Seeker`> like !blah is something
[18:23] <Chr|s> I see
[18:23] <Pici> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots#Using%20Ubottu
[18:23] <Pici> maco: #ubuntu-ops gets ubottu suggestions
[18:23] <Chr|s> I have this link that is well written for setting up irssi
[18:23] <maco> oh, really?
[18:23] <maco> ok then
[18:23] <Chr|s> could help a lot of first timers out
[18:24] <maco> hey Pici, you're a freenode op too, right?
[18:24] <Pici> maco: Nope. Just Ubuntu.
[18:24] <maco> oh. you're in #freenode right now so i tried to guess. so mr price is the one i'm thinking of then?
[18:24] <Seeker`> yup
[18:25] <Pici> And nal
[18:26] <maco> ok. well they seem to both be AFK right now, so i guess i'll go back to hoping for a response in #freenode :P
[18:26] <maco> tata
[18:29] <Seeker`> !irssi
[18:31] <Seeker`> do we want that in the factoid?
[18:32] <jussi01> !screen
[18:33] <jussi01> Seeker`: you could just say: also see !screen
[18:34] <Seeker`> hmm
[18:34] <Seeker`> that link is already in the "external links" on the wiki page
[18:34] <Seeker`> so no need to add it
[18:34] <jussi01> exactly
[18:35] <jussi01> !no, irssi is <reply> Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help. See also !screen
[18:35] <jussi01> there.
[18:50] <bolt> hi
[18:50] <Seeker`> hi
[18:51] <bolt> what i'm still band 
[18:52] <Seeker`> it would appear so
[18:52] <bolt> how come
[18:54] <Seeker`> because the person that set it ahsnt removed it yet
[18:54] <Seeker`> I believe that was ikonia?
[18:55] <bolt> yes it was
[18:55] <Seeker`> you would need to talk to him about gettign the ban lifted
[18:55] <bolt> he is here
[18:56] <Seeker`> he hasn't been active tody
[18:56] <Seeker`> *today
[18:57] <bolt> he apperes to be active
[18:57] <Seeker`> please come back in a couple of hours and see if he is around then
[18:58] <bolt> ikonia:  are you there
[19:00] <bolt> elky  so i'm still band i guess
[19:00] <Seeker`> bolt: please come back later
[19:01] <bolt> ok
[19:01] <Seeker`> !idle | bolt
[19:06] <topyli> bolt: you appear to be ban dodging on #ubuntu-offtopic? is this so? or has your ban been removed in there?
[19:06] <bolt> topyli:  it has 
[19:08] <topyli> apparently yes. sorry, go on chatting there
[19:08] <Seeker`> bolt: please part this channel, come back in a couple of hours
[19:25] <popey> 19:25:15 <bolt> i am an  idiot sometimes
[19:25] <popey> heh
[19:31] <LjL> sometimes
[19:31] <jussi01> ??
[19:31] <LjL> nothing, nothing
[19:32]  * jussi01 hugs LjL
[19:38]  * LjL wonders just how difficult it can be to learn to use the mouse with the left hand and the keyboard with one hand too
[19:40] <Seeker`> using the mouse with the left hand is trivial
[19:40] <Seeker`> one handed keyboard is a pin
[19:40] <LjL> Seeker`: it is not trivial, it feels terrible
[19:40] <jussi01> nah, I think its a needle... :P
[19:41] <LjL> i think it's a pun
[19:41] <Pici> I agree, one handed computing is bad when you don't have a choice.
[19:41] <LjL> oh but i have a choice
[19:41] <Seeker`> I had RSI in my right hand, feeling a little odd is better than searing wrist pain
[19:41] <LjL> one handed computing, or sleepless night because the whole right arm and hand hurt
[19:41] <LjL> or, well, no computing. if that is indeed a reasonable choice.
[19:42] <Pici> I was referring to when I broke my arm.
[19:43] <LjL> Pici: so do you happen to have any tips aside from "it's bad" which doesn't help?
[19:44] <LjL> voice recognition - no, i tried that last year.
[19:44] <LjL> it made for a bit of fun but.
[19:44] <LjL> also it involves booting windows.
[19:44] <Seeker`> LjL: what caused this need for one-handed computing?
[19:45] <LjL> Seeker`: some sort of rsi i suppose
[19:45] <Pici> LjL: I had a touchpad that I was able to plug into my work desktop, that helped a bit. I could still somewhat use my right hand for that. 
[19:45] <Seeker`> I found a graphics tablet instead of a mouse helped
[19:46] <Seeker`> my RSI seems to be mouse related, so I'm usually ok for typing with both hands
[19:46] <LjL> tried the graphics tablet last year too, but it annoys me almost more than mouse in the left hand
[19:46] <LjL> yeah mine's definitely mouse related too for all i can tell
[19:46] <LjL> but right now it hurts whatever i do so i guess typing should be avoided too
[19:48] <Seeker`> mine is mainly my right index finger, the tendons leading to it (above and below the hand)
[19:52] <jussi01> you need to get one of these headsets that you navigate with your eyes :P
[19:54] <Seeker`> or someone to ues the computer for me
[19:56] <tsimpson> [Global Notice] Hi all, we're going to take services down for some quick maintenance -- they'll be gone a mere few minutes, this will affect chanserv, memoserv, nickserv and alis. Apologies for the inconvenience
[19:56] <tsimpson> op up
[19:57] <tsimpson> too late
[20:14] <Flannel> gah.  Look away for one second
[20:15] <Seeker`> I was about 0.25 seconds too slow with the ban command
[20:36] <Flannel> no one!
[20:36] <Flannel> Oh
[20:36] <Flannel> nevermind
[20:36] <Flannel> Uh
[20:37] <Flannel> Why didn't that ban him?
[20:37] <Seeker`> I dont know
[20:37] <Flannel> i=Trinexx@c-71-203-103-52.hsd1.fl.comcast.net
[20:37] <Flannel> Is that aleady banned and I missed it?
[20:37] <Seeker`> I didn't ban him because I thought the bots did it automagically
[20:37] <Flannel> Yeah, I didn't see it.
[20:38] <Flannel> I saw mao-kun, but not the guy who actually did something
[20:39] <Flannel> oh
[20:39] <Flannel> there it is.  FB3
[20:44] <Flannel> *joy*
[21:00] <guntbert> Hi, I got the impression that the factoid !mount should either *not* be an alias for !disks or should be amended (no proposal yet), because it deals only with partitioning
[21:01] <BOLT__> oh bother still band
[21:02] <Seeker`> BOLT__: ikonia still isn't around
[21:04] <Seeker`> BOLT__: please come back later
[21:18] <Seeker`> Pici: That is exactly what he was doing
[21:18] <Pici> Seeker`: /me shrugs
[21:22] <guntbert> I don't want to idle - any reply/request to my !mount-statement?
[21:23] <Pici> guntbert: If you can come up with a suggestion to change it, we'll concider it
[21:24] <guntbert> Pici: I was afraid of that :-), but I'll try...
[21:24] <Pici> Okay :)
[22:25] <LjL> bilokshem in #ubuntu
[22:50] <LjL> bolt has just been unaf cloaked
[23:04] <Seeker`> LjL: different bolt
[23:04] <Seeker`> supposedly anyway
[23:04] <Seeker`> its the bolt that was killing bolt_ for nick collision
[23:06] <popey> you sure
[23:06] <popey> bolt (not bolt_ was talking to me earlier)
[23:07] <Seeker`> bolt had a .no host
[23:07] <Seeker`> bolt_ had a bb.sky.com
[23:07] <popey> ah
[23:07] <popey> my bad
[23:09] <LjL> ah... uhm... *shrug*
[23:09] <LjL> i have indeed seen the "r00t" ident before, though. not that it's very uncommon.
[23:10]  * genii makes more coffee and takes a ppek at access lists to make sure he's not supposed to be somewhere he doesnt know about yet
[23:56] <PROject-Emerald> Uhh
[23:57] <PROject-Emerald> I was banned from #Ubuntu earlier for talking about putting marijuana in my mobo and seeing what it did
[23:57] <PROject-Emerald> how do I get unbanned?
[23:57] <LjL> tell us what it did!
[23:57] <LjL> just kidding.
[23:57] <PROject-Emerald> Srsly? It started my laptop on fire
[23:57] <PROject-Emerald> Lol
[23:58] <PROject-Emerald> !apt
[23:58] <PROject-Emerald> !sudo
[23:58] <LjL> !msg the bot
[23:58] <PROject-Emerald> Sorry :3