| duvnell1 | giovani: yeah.. I'm comfortable doing it manually.. just asking if there was an easier way | 00:00 |
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| giovani | I don't see why you'd want/need two different ports anyway -- just use two different ddns names, and use name-based virtual hosting | 00:01 |
| duvnell1 | what file(s) is being updated when I'm running services-admin and enable/disable a service? | 00:01 |
| giovani | duvnell1: what's services-admin? | 00:01 |
| thirsteh | or use something like nginx ;-) | 00:01 |
| duvnell1 | I have dhcpd enabled, and it's starting on boot, but it's apparently dying because it's not in the ps list after booting.. starting it manually fixes things | 00:01 |
| sam_ | giovani: this is my first time using linux as a server so i thought that would be the best way | 00:01 |
| duvnell1 | giovani: System->Administration->Services | 00:02 |
| giovani | sam_: the proper way would be to register two dns names with your ddns provider | 00:02 |
| giovani | duvnell1: we don't support guis in here | 00:02 |
| duvnell1 | and I do see dhcpd start in /var/log/messages | 00:02 |
| duvnell1 | ok.. no more GUI talk | 00:02 |
| duvnell1 | how do I enable/disable a service? update-rc.d? | 00:02 |
| giovani | sudo /etc/init.d/service start|stop|restart | 00:03 |
| duvnell1 | ..umm.. start a service at boot | 00:03 |
| giovani | you can do it manually | 00:03 |
| giovani | or using the tools provided | 00:03 |
| duvnell1 | the tool name is my questio | 00:03 |
| duvnell1 | what tool do I use to arrange for a service to start at boot? | 00:03 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: red hat's chkconfig is being imported into ubuntu. i believe it started with 8.10. it doesn't do a great job right now (not very intelligent) but you may want to check it out | 00:04 |
| giovani | update-rc.d works fine | 00:04 |
| duvnell1 | so update-rc.d is creating the symlinks for me.. that's cool | 00:06 |
| giovani | duvnell1: yeah, it's a standard SysV tool, not ubuntu-specific | 00:06 |
| duvnell1 | is upstart still being used on server edition ? | 00:06 |
| giovani | yes | 00:06 |
| duvnell1 | and upstart is following the rc dirs ? | 00:06 |
| giovani | yes, upstart is supporting the legacy rcX.d style setup | 00:07 |
| giovani | I don't believe upstart has a fully working replacement yet | 00:07 |
| ScottK | giovani: It does, but there's no compelling case to rework packages to use it. It's used some, but generally only in Ubuntu specific stuff. | 00:14 |
| duvnell | ok.. this server is flaky.. | 00:14 |
| duvnell | my server | 00:14 |
| giovani | duvnell: be more specific than "server is flaky" please | 00:14 |
| duvnell | last thing I said was "what is non-legacy for upstart" | 00:14 |
| duvnell | did you get that and answer it? | 00:14 |
| giovani | no, I didn't get that | 00:15 |
| giovani | your internet is probably having issues | 00:15 |
| duvnell | by flaky, I mean I've got it acting as a router doing NAT.. and it's fine until no body does anything and it kinda dies.. went and looked and dhcpd was no longer running.. I think my machine attempted to lease again and that's what killed it | 00:15 |
| duvnell | no it's not | 00:15 |
| duvnell | from the server I can do things fine | 00:15 |
| giovani | duvnell: the bottom-line re: upstart is ... we're still using the legacy rcX.d files | 00:16 |
| ScottK | duvnell: For Upstart, lots of stuff from http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ | 00:16 |
| duvnell | cool.. good to know | 00:16 |
| giovani | but upstart can be used in the more-upstarty way if you'd like | 00:16 |
| giovani | check out /etc/event.d/ | 00:16 |
| duvnell | dhcpd server is dying at boot (it does start in /var/log/messages), but then it's not running after boot is done.. and now apparently it's dying just on occasion.. restarting manually fixes it (for a time) | 00:17 |
| duvnell | I was gonna see if I can get some debug logging out of it | 00:17 |
| giovani | which dhcpd are you running? | 00:18 |
| giovani | I'd recommend dnsmasq for any small setup | 00:18 |
| duvnell | dhcpd3 | 00:18 |
| giovani | I'd recommend dnsmasq | 00:19 |
| duvnell | am I still here? | 00:21 |
| a|wen | duvnell: looks like it | 00:21 |
| duvnell | dang.. happened again | 00:22 |
| duvnell | increasing lease time.. the example had 600 seconds.. I think that was the problem | 00:22 |
| duvnell | and it would be dead after 600 | 00:22 |
| duvnell | afk.. got 2 eat | 00:22 |
| duvnell | back | 00:38 |
| duvnell | dhcpd still alive | 00:39 |
| duvnell | surprised.. well of course nothing's been requesting anything.. lemme force that | 00:39 |
| mac9416 | Hi ya'll! While installing 8.10 server edition, I get to "Installing additional components" and about 24% of the way in the screen goes to fitfluuy blinking black/white and after about 10min I get a whole column of "Failed" down the left side of the screen. | 01:14 |
| mac9416 | Hehe, there's a bit of a draft in here. | 01:25 |
| mac9416 | I hope mdelaur closed the door behind him. | 01:25 |
| mikegriffin | mac9416: checked another console? usually dmesg and logs end up there | 01:26 |
| mac9416 | OK, I'll do that... | 01:26 |
| mac9416 | Well, the "failed" messages were coming on so fast that I could only get a fleeting glimpse of the messages, but one of them said something about running out of memory. | 01:31 |
| mac9416 | I'm not even sure how much ram is in the machine. | 01:31 |
| mac9416 | I think there is a lowmem option in the installer? | 01:32 |
| android60 | I just built a lightweight machine for a NAS but when I go to install ubuntu server from the cd menu, I just keep seeing errors like this http://pastebin.com/m7c9abf9a | 01:35 |
| duvnell | okay, so my problem is that eth0 is not configured at the time that dhcpd starts.. | 01:37 |
| duvnell | so it's a startup issue.. I'm finding ubuntu-server not as friendly as the desktop.. just a perception at the moment.. so If I want dhcpd to start later than it is starting, how do I do that> | 01:38 |
| duvnell | ? | 01:38 |
| duvnell | I found this out by noticing dhcpd's error in syslog and then logging ifconfig -a during boot. .which showed no IP on eth0 and it caused dhcpd to not start | 01:39 |
| duvnell | I ran chkconfig and it completely rewrote the rc.d directories | 01:39 |
| duvnell | wasn't too happy about that, but I figure there's either a fix to reorder it back or I can just work with chkconfig | 01:39 |
| mac9416 | android60, I'm a n00b, but that looks like a hard drive error. IDK what to do about it... | 01:40 |
| duvnell | maybe I should be running ubuntu desktop on this machine :) | 01:40 |
| duvnell | er.. that machine | 01:40 |
| mac9416 | Well, devnull, have you tried starting the daemon by hand? | 01:42 |
| android60 | mac9416: ive tried 4 hard drives and all same error, im trying a diff cd drive right now | 01:43 |
| android60 | its a new mobo so im wondering if the ide connection is bad on it | 01:43 |
| android60 | ya same error w.e hard drive connceted and diff disk drive | 01:43 |
| duvnell | mac9416: yeah.. I'm continuing a convo from earlier on here | 01:44 |
| duvnell | yes it works manually | 01:44 |
| android60 | w.o** without | 01:44 |
| duvnell | I changed the init script to start after NetworkManager | 01:44 |
| duvnell | but I'm guessing whether I should even use that tool on server | 01:44 |
| mikegriffin | i would not use dhcp on a server | 01:44 |
| duvnell | and it doesn't fix it | 01:44 |
| ScottK | Generally you don't use NetworkManager on a server | 01:44 |
| mac9416 | android60, are you sure the cable is good? | 01:44 |
| mikegriffin | unless i had a really impressive config | 01:45 |
| duvnell | what does NetworkManager do anyway | 01:45 |
| mikegriffin | configure wireless and dhcp generally | 01:45 |
| mikegriffin | automagically | 01:45 |
| duvnell | so I am running dhcp client here also | 01:45 |
| duvnell | for the cable modem | 01:45 |
| duvnell | would that cease to work if I removed that service? | 01:45 |
| android60 | mac9416: yup, tried a known working cable to | 01:46 |
| duvnell | does starting networking in general run dhclient? | 01:46 |
| mikegriffin | /etc/network/interfaces controls that | 01:46 |
| mac9416 | androin60, Hmmm. It looks like a drive issue, but hav you checked the disk's integrity? | 01:46 |
| mikegriffin | duvnell: to be fair, networkmanager requires X, which I would also not put on a server | 01:47 |
| duvnell | ok.. so I'm gonna guess I should remove NetworkManager and just use the /etc/init.d/networking script instead? cause I don't see it in rc.3 or 5 | 01:47 |
| duvnell | arg.. chkconfig -e.. changing networking to "on" and it's refusing to change.. chkconfig -e again shows it back to 0S | 01:49 |
| duvnell | is that an "automatic"? | 01:49 |
| android60 | mac9416: yup and tried an unopen lts 8.04 server disk to | 01:50 |
| mac9416 | android60, I'm Googling your error message. I admit, it's got me stumped... | 01:53 |
| android60 | ya ive been at it all day | 01:54 |
| android60 | im thinking its the ide connector on the motherboard | 01:54 |
| giovani | duvnell: NetworkManager shouldn't be on your server -- your network settings should be configured in /etc/network/interfaces, which is read by /etc/init.d/networking | 01:54 |
| mac9416 | androin60, Under waranty? :-( | 01:54 |
| android60 | mac9416: brand new motherboard, got it yesterday | 01:54 |
| mac9416 | android60, Well, I'd send it back. I mean, you seem to have given it enough chance to prove itself innocent... | 01:55 |
| android60 | ya | 01:56 |
| android60 | :/ | 01:56 |
| android60 | i just returned a different brand board that the bios wouldnt even recognize 2 of the sata ports | 01:56 |
| mac9416 | Look at this maybe? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/ahci-dvd-drives-542784/ | 01:56 |
| mac9416 | That's bad. | 01:56 |
| sam_ | does lighttpd support .htaccess | 01:59 |
| sam_ | ? | 01:59 |
| mac9416 | android60, what brand MB is it? | 02:00 |
| giovani | sam_: no | 02:01 |
| giovani | sam_: all configuration is done inside lighttpd.conf (or other confs you include in there) | 02:01 |
| android60 | mac9416: biostar | 02:02 |
| mac9416 | android60, from Newegg? | 02:02 |
| android60 | ya | 02:02 |
| sam_ | giovani:ok thanks | 02:02 |
| android60 | a760g m2+ | 02:02 |
| android60 | ya | 02:03 |
| android60 | from newegg | 02:03 |
| mac9416 | Well, if there's no reson to do otherwise, I'd go Gigabyte. One time I had to acll their tech support (due to my own ignorance) and the guy that answered my question sounded as if he had built the board himself. :-D | 02:03 |
| giovani | sam_: by the way, lighttpd has its own irc channel on freenode; #lighttpd | 02:04 |
| sam_ | ok | 02:04 |
| android60 | ha ya | 02:04 |
| android60 | thats what i get for trying to save some money | 02:04 |
| mac9416 | Well, when you're trying to go for a low price machine... | 02:04 |
| android60 | ya | 02:05 |
| mac9416 | I mean they built it to work didn't they, so it should. | 02:05 |
| android60 | exactly | 02:05 |
| mac9416 | But, anyway, at least you can get your money back. | 02:05 |
| mac9416 | duvnell. Clever nickname. | 02:12 |
| duvnell | so, if there's not a supported GUI tool that writes out the /etc/network/interfaces file, is there a CLI tool that I should be using.. or should I be trying to create everything by hand? | 02:26 |
| ScottK | Generally the installer writes a good one for you and they aren't very hard to edit by hand. | 02:30 |
| giovani | duvnell: by hand ... it's what everyone does | 02:35 |
| mac9416 | Everyone's doing it :-D | 02:35 |
| mac9416 | All the cool guys. | 02:35 |
| PhotoJim | Even the uncool guys. | 02:35 |
| PhotoJim | Except for Blake. | 02:35 |
| PhotoJim | He doesn't use networking. | 02:35 |
| mac9416 | Haha | 02:36 |
| genii | Hm. Is there some different set of preseed values for Xubuntu vs Ubuntu preseeds? I used one which worked there and just changed all "ubuntu-desktop" and so on to "xubuntu-desktop" but after automated PXE install no gui | 02:48 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 02:56 | |
| genii | Maybe it's some gdm package name thing. Is it named differently for xfce? | 02:58 |
| jmarsden | genii: xdm ? | 03:21 |
| genii | jmarsden: I'm dumping an installed package list now off a good box and gonna do a compare | 03:22 |
| genii | I can startx so it must be window manager | 03:22 |
| === timburke_ is now known as timburke | ||
| wizardslovak | hello people | 03:58 |
| wizardslovak | i am new to ubuntu server | 03:58 |
| wizardslovak | i want to put web site on server with couple pictures | 03:58 |
| wizardslovak | should i put everything into /var/www | 03:59 |
| giovani | wizardslovak: that's the default location for web files, yes | 03:59 |
| wizardslovak | ok so if i want to make new location then i will have to change location in apache right? | 03:59 |
| giovani | yes | 04:00 |
| mikegriffin | wizardslovak: or use the default | 04:00 |
| giovani | except that he said he wanted to use a different location | 04:00 |
| giovani | if you want to use a different location, apache's config will have to be changed to reflect that | 04:00 |
| wizardslovak | where is apache config located? | 04:01 |
| genii | Or do userdirs or something | 04:02 |
| giovani | wizardslovak: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf | 04:02 |
| jmarsden | wizardslovak: /etc/apache2/* # But it will be easier by far to use the default as it is if you are not already familiar with configuring apache. | 04:02 |
| giovani | please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html | 04:02 |
| jmarsden | Hmmm, someone should probably update the /topic to point to that guide not the older one in its tinyurl, I think. | 04:04 |
| giovani | jmarsden: well the topic refers to 8.04, so I don't think it's there by mistake | 04:05 |
| giovani | if it was refering to 8.10, I'd agree | 04:05 |
| giovani | but they're clearly wanting to stick to LTS | 04:05 |
| wizardslovak | well i am browsing apache2.conf and i dont see nowhere directory | 04:09 |
| wizardslovak | "/var/www | 04:10 |
| jmarsden | wizardslovak: That's why I said it is easier to stick with the defaults unless you are already familiar with configuring Apache... and why i said /etc/apache2/* ... try looking in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default if you really want to see that. | 04:12 |
| giovani | yeah, jmarsden is right ... just don't forget the 000 -- /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default | 04:14 |
| jmarsden | giovani: No, that is a symlink to the file I mentioned earlier :) | 04:15 |
| giovani | point taken :) | 04:16 |
| duvnell1 | anyone a postfix wiz? I would like to reject any email except to an allowed list of names on my server | 04:24 |
| mikegriffin | duvnell1: that is a pretty normal goal | 04:26 |
| duvnell1 | currently I'm getting spam on common users like root, avahi, etc | 04:27 |
| duvnell1 | would just like to reject | 04:27 |
| mikegriffin | i would not reject mail to root but you might take a look in /etc/aliases | 04:35 |
| mikegriffin | duvnell1: keep things like root, postmaster abuse etc | 04:35 |
| duvnell1 | well, root is fine from the inside.. but it's the outside I'd like to reject it from | 04:36 |
| mikegriffin | #postfix | 04:36 |
| duvnell1 | goood idea :) | 04:36 |
| mikegriffin | i would not ever reject mail to root | 04:37 |
| duvnell1 | reason? | 04:37 |
| duvnell1 | this is just my home server | 04:37 |
| mikegriffin | i think its rfc to accept it but i may be wrong and its only best practice | 04:38 |
| duvnell1 | of course processes tend to email root.. and so like I say, that's fine from the inside | 04:38 |
| duvnell1 | I know we're not supposed to talk about GUIs in this channel.. but do you know of a GUI tool for configuring postfix, or should I just continue with vi.. | 04:39 |
| duvnell1 | ? | 04:39 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: who made this rule about not talking about a gui? | 04:40 |
| duvnell1 | giovani did :) | 04:41 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: as long as the discussion pertains to ubuntu server it should be ok | 04:42 |
| duvnell1 | pmatulis: does ubuntu server make available a GUI for editing postfix config | 04:43 |
| duvnell1 | that you know of | 04:43 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: more often than not, however, such discussions become less and less about the server and more about the tool. | 04:43 |
| mikegriffin | duvnell1: often times, using a gui will make very complicated changes to solve a small problem, introducing complexity | 04:44 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: no such tool is shipped in the base system | 04:45 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: there was discussion about integrating ebox or puppet but this has not happened | 04:46 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: many people use webmin but i do not recommend it. as i do not recommend any such tool | 04:47 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: what i do recommend is learning how a mail server works | 04:47 |
| duvnell1 | k thx... editing text is oka | 04:50 |
| duvnell1 | GUI just lays out your options more easily some times | 04:50 |
| pmatulis | duvnell1: they're dangerous and they don't teach you anything. you still have to know what you're doing | 04:52 |
| === timburke_ is now known as timburke | ||
| quizme | is it better to run 8.10 on or 9.04 on a server? | 08:13 |
| === Barre_ is now known as Barre | ||
| bulllp | Hi, my debian server can't boot after loading the lilo. It stops on the screen "loading lilo ............." | 08:29 |
| bulllp | nothing continue | 08:29 |
| bulllp | so what's the problem | 08:29 |
| bulllp | no, it's "loading linux ..............." | 08:30 |
| === RoAk is now known as RoAkSoAx | ||
| TeLLuS | bulllp: I guess you have to select or add a boot option to see what error you get. And later maybe start from cd if it can't be fixed with a option or selection with lilo | 09:27 |
| corsair__ | hey, what flag do i need to get make-kpkg to build a kernel headers deb? | 09:35 |
| Ramblurr | i've upgraded to 9.04 and i'm having issues with the klogd service | 09:36 |
| Ramblurr | it hangs when starting: "* Starting kernel log daemon..." | 09:37 |
| TeLLuS | Ramblurr: start it from commandline and watch where it hangs with strace or something.. | 09:38 |
| Ramblurr | http://rafb.net/p/nWkhXP12.html | 09:43 |
| Ramblurr | hum | 09:44 |
| TeLLuS | Ramblurr: Problem with the pid file? | 09:51 |
| super_hacker | hi to all | 11:41 |
| super_hacker | I have one problem with Postfix Mail Server | 11:43 |
| Bananaman | so people, any assistance about the Postfix :S | 12:00 |
| Bananaman | :S | 12:17 |
| Padhu | Any simple backup tool for backup files whenever USB drive is instered? | 12:30 |
| Padhu | inserted | 12:30 |
| twb | Padhu: udev and rsync. | 12:32 |
| twb | You write a udev rule that reacts to the insertion of that particular USB drive by running mount and rsync commands. | 12:33 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #371218 in dhcp3 (main) "No DNS servers whith dsl-connection using pppoe" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371218 | 14:03 |
| acron17 | hi there. after upgrading mysql to 5.1 (in jaunty) the readline abilites (eg Ctrl-r to search) stopped working in the mysql client | 14:09 |
| acron17 | any hints whats going wrong there? can someone verify that issue on his system? | 14:10 |
| twb | acron17: that sounds like someone decided libreadline couldn't legally be linked against mysql. | 14:28 |
| twb | But that's just a guess; try looking at the changelog.Debian.gz in /usr/share/doc | 14:29 |
| thirsteh | Do not question the Oracle | 14:32 |
| TeLLuS | Is that not DO question the Oracle now.. | 14:33 |
| acron17 | twb: thanks for your answer. | 14:36 |
| acron17 | twb: you may be just right. from the changelog: | 14:36 |
| acron17 | Replaced --without-readline to --with-libedit to configure options, as --without-readline doesn't seem to do the right thing anymore. | 14:36 |
| acron17 | twb: how about libedit? doesn't it support features from readline Ctrl-r for example? | 14:38 |
| thirsteh | TeLLuS: Nobody questions the Oracle and lives to tell of it | 14:38 |
| twb | You would need to ask #OpenBSD about that, I guess | 14:42 |
| twb | I link to libedit, too, but I know nothing about it :-) | 14:42 |
| twb | I assume you understand what I meant by readline (GPL) being incompatible with non-infective stuff. | 14:43 |
| twb | acron17: oh, btw, see also rlwrap, which gives you generic readline support on an arbitrary CLI | 14:44 |
| acron17 | twb: yeah i heard about readline being not compatible with GPL... | 14:53 |
| twb | No no, readline *is* GPL | 14:54 |
| twb | But if you want to use it, you have to make your thing GPL, too. | 14:54 |
| acron17 | twb: ah ok | 14:54 |
| twb | This is different from *L*GPL, which can be used with proprietary software. | 14:54 |
| acron17 | twb: ok. i got the point | 14:54 |
| twb | And I assume that mysql is licensed under the LGPL. | 14:55 |
| acron17 | twb: so all in all there is nothing to fix this issue apart from rewritting a mysql client with GPL license or readline with LGPL? | 14:58 |
| twb | Basically, the readline authors have *deliberately* arranged things so that if you want to use their package, you have to make your software as free as their software. | 14:59 |
| twb | They did this because at the time (and arguably, still) there is nothing as good as libreadline. | 14:59 |
| twb | Now, you could build your own mysql packages that use readline instead of editline, but you would not be allowed to distribute them. That's why Debian's binaries use editline. | 15:00 |
| twb | Sorry, s/Debian/Ubuntu/ | 15:00 |
| acron17 | twb: thanks for these informations... | 15:12 |
| twb | No problem. | 15:13 |
| benc | is there a way to automate a server installation? For example, apache + vhosts, postgresql + db user...? | 16:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #371269 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mysql server 5.0 crashes on installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371269 | 16:06 |
| giovani | benc: sure, a script | 16:15 |
| benc | giovani: do I put complete config files in the script? | 16:33 |
| foxbuntu | benc, its kind of up to you how to script it...thats the beauty of scripts | 16:35 |
| foxbuntu | benc, you can have the script edit confs or create them, copy them in from elsewhere | 16:36 |
| benc | foxbuntu: ok .thanks | 16:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #364811 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 installation failed (dup-of: 291987)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/364811 | 16:40 |
| mpathy | Hey, there is a package in the repositories with not one line of documentation.. | 18:16 |
| mpathy | libapache2-redirtoservname | 18:26 |
| mpathy | got to look at the sourcecode to find one line of information: RedirectToServerName must be either \"On\" or \"Off\"." | 18:27 |
| mpathy | Thats the ONLY ONE information in the whole internet..? | 18:28 |
| giovani | mpathy: I'm unclear ... what's the problem? | 18:32 |
| dangerseeker | Hi! I have got a question about the integration of samba. | 18:40 |
| dangerseeker | Samba and Linux keep seperate passwods, but when I set my password in Linux and never set up Samba passwords, Samba seems to know the passwords... can this be? | 18:43 |
| giovani | dangerseeker: I don't know specifically -- but I remember there being a sync tool for keeping those files the same | 19:00 |
| dangerseeker | giovani: it did surprise me. that's because I ask. And glancing over the documentation and ubuntu wiki I did not found anything yet. | 19:03 |
| dangerseeker | I just added a Linux user, logged him in via ssh and *bam* there he is in the samba user database (/etc/smbpasswd)... but WHY? | 19:09 |
| * andol suspects PAM | 19:09 | |
| andol | dangerseeker: What version of Ubuntu are you running? | 19:09 |
| dangerseeker | andol: PAM seems to be a good place to look. I am running 8.04.1 | 19:11 |
| andol | dangerseeker: Well, taking a quick peak I'm pretty sure you'll find the culprint in /etc/pam.d/common-auth and the way it calls pam_smbpass.so. | 19:16 |
| andol | dangerseeker: Of course, I'm mostly making an educated guess right now. Don't have time to look up the specific details right now. | 19:17 |
| dangerseeker | andol: many thanks! Now I have a sensible starting point for further research. | 19:18 |
| tsrk | Have any of you done the 8.10 -> 9.04 upgrade on a server? If so, how did it go? Any problems? | 19:21 |
| Hecate | tsrk, did it on two servers. no trouble at all. | 19:40 |
| Hecate | anyhow, a backup might be quite useful, as shit always happens, when you're not prepared for it. | 19:41 |
| tsrk | yeah, i always have a backup | 19:43 |
| tsrk | just making sure there isn't any shit that's gonna happen for sure :) | 19:43 |
| Hecate | at least nothing i ran into. | 19:46 |
| tsrk | that's good to hear | 19:46 |
| tsrk | is it ok to keep my server online while it upgrades? | 19:46 |
| thirsteh | tsrk: yes, this is Linux :-) | 19:49 |
| thirsteh | although MySQL and Apache might stop and then ask you some questions during the upgrade | 19:49 |
| tdn | How do I set up Ubuntu so that security updates are installed automatically? | 19:50 |
| tsrk | thirsteh, when I installed mysql it had a blank root password for a little while didn't it? | 19:50 |
| tsrk | I'm worried about something like that | 19:50 |
| tsrk | tdn, server? | 19:50 |
| tdn | tsrk, yes. | 19:50 |
| tsrk | not sure then, sorry. I just selected that option when I installed. | 19:50 |
| thirsteh | tsrk: not when you upgrade | 19:53 |
| tsrk | Ok, that's good | 19:53 |
| Hecate | the upgrade won't mess with you mysql users/databases, so there shouldnt't be any security leaks during the installation. | 19:54 |
| Hecate | you might wanna shut down the apache mysql, etc daemons though, just to be sure. | 19:54 |
| Hecate | since you'll need to restart the box anyway, this will only increase the downtime, but not cause it in the first place. | 19:54 |
| thirsteh | the biggest 'danger' is if you have Apache listening on ports other than 80. You'll have to create duplicate port entries in /etc/apache2/ports.conf after the upgrade, and then restart it | 19:54 |
| tsrk | i don't, it shouldn't be a problem | 19:55 |
| tsrk | i could just block incoming connections before the upgrade on my router | 19:55 |
| tsrk | anyone know what the changes in /etc/mysql/my.cnf are? | 19:56 |
| Hecate | can't tell | 19:56 |
| Hecate | in case you made any changes ot the file, you'll be asked what to do during the upgrade. | 19:57 |
| Hecate | (it will also show a diff if you ask for it) | 19:57 |
| tsrk | yeah i just got that message | 19:58 |
| tsrk | i think the only thing i changed was listen on other than local | 19:58 |
| exeoeoe | http://3x3cut10n3r.mybrute.com/ <-- have fun & good luck | 20:35 |
| igor47 | my system failed to create /var/run/utmp on startup - what rc script is supposed to do that? | 20:36 |
| igor47 | is there a script which changes /var/run permissions also? | 20:37 |
| igor47 | ah found it it was bootmisc | 20:47 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #333504 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/333504 | 23:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #352648 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352648 | 23:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #324313 in php5 (main) "php5 crached" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324313 | 23:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #350183 in samba4 (universe) "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in krb5_cc_destroy()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350183 | 23:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #357047 in php5 (main) "php5 crashes without doing anything" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/357047 | 23:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #362720 in samba (main) "gvfsd-smb crashed with SIGSEGV in llistxattr@plt()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/362720 | 23:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #363270 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in clone()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/363270 | 23:21 |
| ajmitch | that's a lot of old php bugs to suddenly come up as 'new' | 23:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | a lot of dupes | 23:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | ajmitch: are they dupes? | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | a number of them could be, though it's hard to say at a glance | 23:41 |
| * ajmitch bets a number of them could be due to bug 343870 | 23:41 | |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 343870 in php5 "php-cli segmentation fault with mysql extension" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343870 | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | which is more of a threading bug with mysql libraries | 23:42 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #368189 in bind9 (main) "host crashed with signal 7 in dns_lib_initmsgcat()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/368189 | 23:51 |
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