[08:25] <Mike1> is the fglrx in your PPA the latest one?
[20:34] <virtuald> i'm trying to find a bug report about xorg on radeon crashing when the screen saver is running, does anyone know about it?
[20:34] <virtuald> seems to be only some screen savers but it happens a lot for me
[20:37] <virtuald> also, SWcursor crashes both radeon and radeonhd on startup, haven't found a bug report for that. what should be included besides xorg.conf and xorg.0.log?
[21:13] <mnemo> virtuald: please file one bug per issue and use the script "ubuntu-bug" to open bugs
[21:13] <mnemo> the "ubuntu-bug" script automatically includes all the log files and info about your hw
[21:13] <mnemo> to use it run "ubuntu-bug xorg" from a terminal
[21:14] <virtuald> ok, shouldn't it be against xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[21:14] <mnemo> yes that's better
[21:14] <virtuald> and radeonhd
[21:14] <mnemo> yes
[21:15] <mnemo> virtuald: ideally, you should collect xorg.log and dmesg right after reproducing your bug, then you're the most likely to capture important error print outs from the bug
[21:15] <mnemo> virtuald: note that even starting the login login prompt will reset xorg.log (and put the previous one in xorg.log.old instead)
[21:16] <virtuald> does ubuntu-bug include Xorg.0.log.old?
[21:16] <mnemo> yes
[21:16] <mnemo> and a bunch of other stuff like xrandr and glxinfo and whatnot
[21:17] <virtuald> yeah i just installad an sshd to try to do that with the screensaver crashes, because i can't get any control over the computer with magic sysrq or the power button
[21:17] <mnemo> ssh is indeed the absolute best way to capture dmesg, xorg.log and xorg.log.old
[21:18] <mnemo> if you have a solid set of repro steps and the proper logs attach, then I also recommend that you file an upstream bug at bugs.freedesktop.org and then you link the two bugs together using the "Also affects project" link on LP.. that way the ubuntu packagers will get automatically notified when its fixed upstream
[21:19] <mnemo> virtuald: also please paste the bug number to me (then I can see if I can repro it as well)
[21:20] <virtuald> what if there already are a bug report at freedesktop? i haven't looked yey
[21:20] <virtuald> yet
[21:20] <virtuald> brb
[21:21] <mnemo> yea search for one first
[21:21] <mnemo> you can also link an existing freedesktop.org bug to your newly created LP bug
[21:25] <mnemo> hi tormod
[21:25] <tormod> hi mnemo
[21:54] <virtuald> where do i disable xscreensaver security?
[21:57] <tormod> virtuald: see "man xscreensaver"
[22:00] <virtuald> i disabled screen locking in the gnome thingy, i didn't find anything on the manpages
[22:01] <virtuald> hope it works
[22:02] <virtuald> rebooting.
[22:53] <tormod> Sarvatt: read your phoronix post that UXA finally works:  the intel focusing pays off apparently :)
[22:53] <tormod> do you know which commit fixed it?
[22:57] <tormod> mnemo: re your mesa debdiff, I think the version should be ubuntu3.1 and not ubuntu4
[22:58] <tormod> and the pocket should be jaunty-proposed
[22:59] <tormod> and you should stuff patch descriptions and links inside the .diff
[23:00] <tormod> (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/PatchTaggingGuidelines)
[23:03] <tormod> mnemo: btw I got this backtrace myself today, without using the ring switcher. unfortunately I don't remember exactly what I did, so I can't reproduce.
[23:08] <Sarvatt> it was broken stillas of - 6 days	Remove checks for xf86RotateFreeShadow, introduced in server 1.4.
[23:08] <Sarvatt> and works as of 	Revert "Leave allocator running until lower-level CloseScreens are done"
[23:09] <Sarvatt> not that much  in-between those two
[23:09] <Sarvatt> could end up having been mesa or something I imagine too since I switched to 7.6 at the same time as the driver
[23:10] <Sarvatt> plus i completely purged compiz and it doesnt reinstall with karmic right now :D metacity compisiting is fine though
[23:12] <mnemo> Sarvatt: aah that's probably why compiz broke during my karmic upgrade as well...
[23:12] <mnemo> tormod: thanks for the link, I will cleanup the debdiff
[23:15] <tormod> virtuald: if you are using the "gnomy thing" you might not be using xscreensaver but gnome-screensaver
[23:15] <virtuald> yeah
[23:15] <virtuald> the default screensavers
[23:19] <virtuald> bug 371405
[23:30] <tormod> virtuald: try to find the log with a backtrace, or run gdb over ssh
[23:31] <mnemo> tormod: so with the debdiff... i should do the "quilt refresh", "quilt pop -a" as usual... and then after that I manually edit the .diff ?
[23:32] <tormod> mnemo: yes you can edit the patch afterwards. but I guess a "quilt refresh" will delete any existing comments :)
[23:32] <mnemo> okay, yea that makes sense
[23:33] <tormod> virtuald: check also the gdm logs for backtraces
[23:34] <mnemo> tormod: one final question... why 3.1 ? basically I just used "dch -i" and that autoincrements the version I think?
[23:35] <virtuald> heh it was there when i checked before it started lynx (which i hate for its handling of left arrow in text fields)
[23:36] <virtuald> brb then
[23:37] <tormod> mnemo: for SRU it is always .1, just in case there would be a ubuntu4 coming in Karmic. AFAIK.
[23:37] <tormod> but you read the SRU wiki page, right? :)
[23:38] <mnemo> i didnt know there was one :o
[23:38] <mnemo> i will now though :D
[23:43] <tormod> more confirmations of recent intel improvements in bug 252094 \o/
[23:49] <virtuald> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26293169/Xorg.0.log.old