[00:02] <alfredo> holaaaaaaaaaaa
[00:04] <genii> !es | alfredo
[00:04] <alfredo> hola
[00:06] <genii> alfredo: EG:   /join #kubuntu-es
[00:13] <baker> hi all
[00:37] <francisco> join #sexo
[00:40] <Rusty_Q> 9.04 is absolutely incredible
[00:40] <faileas> ^^
[00:40] <faileas> unless you have an intel card ;p
[00:40] <faileas> though they seem to have fixes the random glitchage i had
[00:40] <genii> or UniChrome
[00:40] <faileas> unichrome has NEVER worked right ;p
[00:40] <faileas> (on anything)
[00:41] <genii> This is true
[00:41] <genii> Intels *used* to be like de-facto standard
[00:41] <faileas> intels arn't as crappy as most people think
[00:42] <Rusty_Q> nvidia ftw
[00:42] <genii> I like also my nvidia
[00:42] <faileas> Rusty_Q: different markets tho
[00:42] <genii> faileas: I have a 945gm in my laptop, works fine there
[00:43] <Rusty_Q> I love the Compiz-like effects that KDE offers
[00:43] <faileas> you don't get unichrome or intel integrated graphics unless you had it inside
[00:43] <Rusty_Q> the snow effect is awesome
[00:43] <faileas> you get nvidia on purpose ;p
[00:44] <faileas> on another note...
[00:44]  * faileas thinks he loves the atom platform ;p
[00:45] <dylan_> hello all
[00:49] <dylan_> i require kubuntu support :)
[00:53] <genii> !ask | dylan_
[00:54] <dylan_> i cannot see my external hard drive on kubuntu. it isnt being detected
[00:55] <dylan_> it worked with an erlier version of kubuntu, i recently upgraded and it nolonger works
[01:04] <dylan_> my display wont go any higher then 1024x768, even though my monitor suports higher
[01:09] <xcdfgkjhgcv> How do I stop Rhythmbox from using over 20% of my CPU?
[01:09] <roly> hi What do you friends
[01:09] <pinkbox> i have latest release and geforce 7300 gt, when my system boots i get blank screen. if i edit the xorg.conf i can get in recovery mode , and run startx
[01:10] <pinkbox> it works fine. but when i reboot i just get a blank screen when x loads
[01:12] <BluesKaj> pinkbox , make sure you have the right default driver by checking in adept
[01:13] <pinkbox> im using nvidia
[01:13] <pinkbox> its changed in xorg.conf . If i run startx it loads fine. but when i reboot and it is loaded on startup i get blank screen
[01:14] <BluesKaj> editing xorg is no longer as effective as it was in older kubuntus..the newer releases depend on HAL much more , hence less flexible
[01:15] <dylan_> can somebody tell me how to mount an external hard drive ?
[01:16] <roque_> Where is it connected?
[01:16] <dylan_> usb
[01:17] <genii> dylan_: Do you know what the /dev   name for the hard drive is, how many partitions and what type they are? (ntfs ext2/3    etc)
[01:17] <dylan_> yes. its is titles EXTDRV and its ntfs
[01:17] <dylan_> one partition
[01:18] <BluesKaj> dylan_ http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/how-to-auto-mount-ext4-external-hard-drive-ubuntu-jaunty-697634/
[01:18] <root1> alguem pode me ajudar por favot ?
[01:18] <root1> :[
[01:18] <BluesKaj> !pt
[01:19] <Rusty_Q> I tried installing Kubuntu 9.04 on ext4
[01:19] <Rusty_Q> didn't get very far past grub
[01:19] <roque_> !pt
[01:20] <Rusty_Q> so back on ext3 I am
[01:21] <BluesKaj> !pm | dylan_
[01:21] <roque_> If you have the device name in /dev mount will likely get the partition type from the partition descriptor
[01:23] <dylan_> blueskaj, im not trying to be rude
[01:24] <genii> dylan_: "EXTDRV" would not be a devicename. A device name would be something like /dev/sdz1
[01:24] <roque_> Rusty_Q what kind of error did you get?
[01:24] <BluesKaj> yes , I know but it's easier just to use the infobot , dylan_ ...dunno much about mounting external drives
[01:25] <dylan_> okay :)
[01:25] <dylan_> genii, how do i find out the device name ?
[01:26] <Rusty_Q> roque_ it said it couldn't find xterm
[01:27] <genii> dylan_: In the results of command: sudo fdisk -l                   will show it. Please do not paste results in this channel however. Use pastebin if more than a couple lines.
[01:27] <genii> !pastebin
[01:27] <ahmos> hi , how i can install amarok 1.4.10 on jaunty jakalope
[01:28] <yml> in the past a couple of week ago when I was moving my mounse in the bottom right corner I was able to rotate the "desktop cube"
[01:28] <roque_> Rusty_Q, that doesn't seem to a filesystem-related error
[01:29] <yml> now nothing is happening. is that a new bugs introduce in the recent updates I have applied or did I mess up my settings
[01:29] <Rusty_Q> it worked fine after I reinstalled with ext3
[01:29] <Rusty_Q> it's not a big deal
[01:29] <BluesKaj> ahmos , look for amarok14 in adept
[01:30] <dylan_> genii, the command listed my 2 internal hard drives, but not my external usb drive
[01:30] <ahmos> blueskaj it's only amarok 2.0.2
[01:30] <genii> dylan_: Then it's not seeing it for some reason.
[01:31] <ahmos> and i think that the old version has much features than the newer one
[01:31] <BluesKaj> ahmos , open adept sources and enable third party software
[01:31] <genii> dylan_: Do a usual hardware/wiring check. EG: Is it getting electrical power? Are the cords securely plugged into both ends?
[01:31] <dylan_> genii. thank you for your help. i just unpluged the usb. and plugged it back in. it is now recognized. :)
[01:31] <genii> dylan_: You're welcome
[01:31] <dylan_> (L)
[01:34] <ahmos> BluesKaj i have only one repos http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[01:36] <BluesKaj> ahmos , this site has the repos for sources.list for amarok14 https://launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[01:46] <ahmos> BluesKaj where i crammesan find a list of repositories for other programs, for example kde packports ...?!
[01:50] <BluesKaj> ahmos , alt+F2 then copy and paste : kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list into the dialog box that pops up . click on edit /select all , the copy and paste the text from the list to http://paste.ubuntu.com  , so we can lok at your sources.list and tell what you need to add.
[01:51] <BluesKaj> lok=look
[01:53] <ahmos> BluesKaj http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/163899/
[01:54] <roque_> Some time ago, there was a way to find out to which /dev file a hotplugged device was mapped. I think it appeared in /var/log/messages
[01:54] <roque_> Anyone remembers this?
[01:55] <BluesKaj> ahmos delete the # from line 39
[01:56] <jason__> hey all, does anyone know the status of broadcom 4318 wireless cards in jaunty?  do i have to do the ndiswrapper thing?
[01:56] <jason__> the b43-fwcutter doesn't work for me
[01:56] <BluesKaj> ahmos , also put a # in front of deb on line 1
[01:57] <naught101> Hi, I want to completely wipe all my power management settings, and start from scratch. what config file will I have to delete, and what packages will I have to re-install?
[01:57] <naught101> files(s)*
[01:57] <BluesKaj> ahmos , then in the terminal : sudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amarok14
[01:57] <ahmos> BluesKaj done
[01:58] <tdapple> looking for a good identica client?
[01:59] <BluesKaj> BBL..tv with wifey
[02:02] <yamishi> does anyone knows how to install an encore ENUWI-G2 in jaunty?
[02:05] <derelict> testing
[02:05] <derelict> nice
[02:06] <roque_> noone remembers?
[02:08] <genii> yamishi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=618723
[02:08] <genii> roque_: dmesg|tail
[02:10] <emanuel__> hey
[02:11] <dylan_> how would i go about changing my screen res to 1280x1024 ? under display - system settings its seems to max out at 1024x768. can i change it elcewhere ?
[02:11] <roque_> genii: yes, but it now doesn't show the /dev file where each usb device is mapped. I seem to recall it did
[02:15] <genii> roque_: might be something if you: ls /proc/bus/usb
[02:16] <roque_> No, that doesn't show anything
[02:17] <ahmos> BluesKaj look at this please ,it is somthing about key and i couldn't solve it
[02:17] <ahmos> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/163907/
[02:17] <ahmos> :(
[02:19] <genii> roque_: Maybe try: grep usb  /proc/devices             then in the results are numbers. Those numbers are also directories in /proc , so look in there
[02:19] <ahmos> it seems that blueskaj is not here so can anybody help me
[02:21] <ahmos> please :)
[02:27] <genii> ahmos: sudo gpg - -recv-keys B9F1C432AE74AE63 && gpg –export –armor B9F1C432AE74AE63  | sudo apt-key add - && sudo gpg - -recv-keys 7D2C7A23BF810CD5
[02:27] <genii>  && gpg –export –armor B9F1C432AE74AE63  | sudo apt-key add -
[02:27] <genii> WAIT
[02:29] <genii> ahmos: sudo gpg - -recv-keys B9F1C432AE74AE63 && gpg –export –armor B9F1C432AE74AE63  | sudo apt-key add - && sudo gpg - -recv-keys 7D2C7A23BF810CD5 &&  gpg –export –armor 7D2C7A23BF810CD5  | sudo apt-key add -
[02:30] <genii> I hit enter by accident earlier in middle of replacing the pubkey
[02:32] <ahmos> so should i copy these two lines an paste it in terminal,
[02:33] <wirechief_> genii why is the export a different key ?
[02:34] <wirechief_> genii or is just for an example ?
[02:34] <ahmos> ha ha haa , i'm confused
[02:35] <wirechief_> ahmos i would think that if your adding the first key BDF something it needs to be exported with same key but i dont know what the example is meant for ?
[02:37] <ahmos> wirechief_ couls you look http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/163907/ and tell me what to do step by step please
[02:37] <wirechief_> ahmos oh wait he has two keys thats being added
[02:39] <wirechief_> ahmos just copy and paste the coding that genii gave you into a terminal and hit enter that should do it.
[02:39] <genii> ahmos: The first one was a mistake which had the different key. Use the second one I gave
[02:40] <dag_> @all: hello everyone
[02:40] <ahmos> genii i get this usage: gpg [options] [filename]
[02:41] <dag_> I can't save changes in Kmenu...any hints?
[02:41] <genii> ahmos: For some reason my copy/paste made two "-" into "- -"  ... one moment I'll rectify
[02:41] <ahmos> oh
[02:42] <wirechief_> --recv-key
[02:42] <wirechief_> just push em together
[02:44] <genii> sudo gpg --recv-keys B9F1C432AE74AE63 && gpg --export --armor B9F1C432AE74AE63  | sudo apt-key add - && sudo gpg --recv-keys 7D2C7A23BF810CD5 &&  gpg --export --armor 7D2C7A23BF810CD5  | sudo apt-key add -
[02:45] <genii> ahmos: The above one should work properly for you now
[02:46] <dag_> after some changes inside KMenu, the system settings update still going: it finish and then restart everytime
[02:47] <tdapple> anyone using karmic?
[02:47] <ahmos> genii :) sorry i got this error http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/163918/
[02:49] <dag_> ahmos: i think you shoul "sudo chmod -R ahmos /home/ahmos/"
[02:52] <hectorjr99> Hello?
[02:52] <hectorjr99> Emmm... Im noobie and need some support...
[02:52] <hectorjr99> anybody?
[02:53] <dag_> hectorjr99: there's plenty of people, just ask! :D
[02:53] <hectorjr99> Ok! Thanks!!!!
[02:54] <hectorjr99> I just migrate from the Intrepid Ibex to Jaunty Jackalope; and Im having some Video Card Issues...
[02:54] <genii> ahmos: I forgot sudo in these commands: sudo gpg --export --armor 7D2C7A23BF810CD5  | sudo apt-key add -
[02:54] <hectorjr99> Dunno what to do...
[02:55] <hectorjr99> My video is going slow... I read that there are some patches for it, but I tried them up, and they just broke my brand new Jaunty Jackalope OS...
[02:56] <tdapple> any good kde apps for identi.ca
[02:56] <hectorjr99> Anybody knows what should I do? Shoul I go back to the Intrepid Ibex version?
[02:57] <ahmos> genii thank you very much for your time you did it ;)
[02:58] <genii> ahmos: Apologies on my typos, I am very tired tonight. Glad we finally got it
[02:58] <genii> tdapple: Well, not kde but: http://beans.seartipy.com/2008/08/07/posting-to-identica-from-ubuntu-804-using-gwibber-client/     looks pretty interesting
[02:58] <roque_> Which video card brand/model/drivers?
[02:58] <hectorjr99> Ok
[03:00]  * wirechief_ hands genii a double cup of ubuntu bean coffee
[03:00] <ahmos> genii don't apologies please :) you are a hero
[03:00] <genii> wirechief_: Yay, coffee! Although soon I'm off for sleep, hopefully. Tomorrow is workday
[03:00] <wirechief_> genii work is a swear word ;)
[03:01] <josemanuel_> yes
[03:01] <ahmos> thank you too wirechief
[03:01] <tdapple> just found choqok ....seems like a solid microblogging client
[03:01] <josemanuel_> where you from
[03:01] <josemanuel_> all people
[03:01] <wirechief_> ahmos np genii did all the work ;)
[03:02] <josemanuel_> really
[03:02] <josemanuel_> i am from mexico
[03:02] <genii> josemanuel_: We are from all over. If you have some Kubuntu support question, you can ask the question here... if you want more social talk not support related, please use #kubuntu-oftopic
[03:03] <hectorjr99> Excuse me, but, do anybody knows where do I find the "hardware" is already installed in my PC??? Im new in Kubuntu... :S
[03:03] <roque_> Try the command hwinfo
[03:03] <hectorjr99> Thanks!!
[03:04] <binskipy2u> hey guys, anyone have a great "how-to" to setup, tweak, find the best apps for kubuntu?
[03:05] <hectorjr99> Nop... that command aint worked...
[03:05] <josemanuel_> yes
[03:05] <hectorjr99> in konsole?
[03:05] <josemanuel_> i new this i dont know use ubuntu 8.04
[03:06] <Dragnslcr> binskipy2u- just browse through KPackageKit, Adept, or http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:06] <roque_> Sorry, it's lshw, not hwinfo
[03:08] <ramon> hi can anyone help me?
[03:08] <ramon> !alsa
[03:08] <binskipy2u> i was using ubuntu, but went back to kubuntu
[03:08] <josemanuel_> me too
[03:08] <binskipy2u> i like kde 4.2.2. more then gnome 2.26
[03:08] <binskipy2u> feels like a real OS for some reason lol
[03:09] <hectorjr99> Ok here it is... Im using my DELL INSPIRON 6400 with a obile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics (the one with issues... :( ...)
[03:09] <hectorjr99> Thanks, that command worked perfecto!!!
[03:10] <hectorjr99> shoot... it a Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[03:10] <josemanuel_> of terminal
[03:10] <josemanuel_> you mede this
[03:10] <hectorjr99> and the jaunty jackalope is slow as hell...
[03:10] <ramon> Hello all...I'm in trouble of sound system...I do have sound in amarok, but none at video player...does anybody know how do i fix it?
[03:11] <hectorjr99> I love how it looks, but if I cant find a solution soon, Ill go back to Intrepid Ibex...
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> hectorjr99- I know that some of the Intel drivers are a bit broken. The forums probably have tons of information about it
[03:11] <binskipy2u> i cant stand the new amarok
[03:11] <hectorjr99> I tried!! I swear!!!
[03:11] <ramon> anybody?
[03:12] <josemanuel_> all people have linux
[03:12] <binskipy2u> i use vlc to play all my music, video
[03:13] <ajavid> hi
[03:13] <binskipy2u> works for everything, visualizations, lyrics, album art are over rated
[03:13] <josemanuel_> hi ajavid
[03:13] <ajavid> I heard 9.04 released with kde3 also?
[03:13] <roque_> try glxinfo | grep render
[03:13] <ajavid> is this true and if so, where can I get it?
[03:13] <wirechief_> ramon have you searched launchpad for others with similar issues ?  or use google ?
[03:14] <hectorjr99> here is what is posted in launchpad for my problem...
[03:14] <ramon> what do you mean?
[03:14] <hectorjr99> slow perfomance and tiling issues on i915 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/349314/comments/49)
[03:15] <wirechief_> ramon check here and research with search for similar issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[03:15] <hectorjr99> and the patches are right here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apw/lp349314-jaunty/
[03:15] <roque_> Just check if you are using hardware acceleration
[03:16] <hectorjr99> BUT!!! When I installed them the first (and only) time, IT WORKED, but, when i rebooted, kubuntu aint load again...
[03:16] <hectorjr99> (how do I chek that???)
[03:17] <roque_> See my message above
[03:18] <KWGoD> anyone know why my sound on the internet is not working?
[03:18] <hectorjr99> get fences failed: -1
[03:18] <hectorjr99> param: 6, val: 0
[03:18] <hectorjr99> direct rendering: Yes
[03:18] <hectorjr99> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 945GM GEM 20090326 2009Q1 RC2 x86/MMX/SSE2
[03:19] <wirechief_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/  KWGoD check here for your issues
[03:19] <hectorjr99> (Sorry for the multiple post...)
[03:19] <cbwcjw> Hey guys, I have a question about Kubuntu Jaunty. I cant seem to get my wireless to work. http://tinyurl.com/9kfa7q
[03:20] <mot_> question: any idea why the interface for vlc in 9.04 is now separated? (play window and control window) when it used to be one unit?
[03:22] <roque_> Hardware acceleration is enabled and the correct driver is loaded. Is this Jaunty or Ibex?
[03:22] <hectorjr99> Jaunty
[03:23] <roque_> But you said above it wasn't working anymore once rebooted
[03:25] <hectorjr99> It worked, until I rebooted, 'cause, when i did so, my pc got stucked, and said something like, gave up waiting for root device. common problems... etc...
[03:26] <wirechief_> cbwcjw try looking for similar issues here https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=wifi+not+working+kubuntu&search=Search+Bug+Reports&field.scope=all&field.scope.target=
[03:26] <KWGoD> the sound on my comp hasnt worked since i upgraded kubuntu
[03:26] <roque_> And how did you solve it? Because now it's working
[03:27] <hectorjr99> I tried loggin in safe mode, and said something like, "the following error was encountered. you may need to update your configuration to solve this"
[03:27] <hectorjr99> (I had to clean install Jaunty again...)
[03:27] <KWGoD> help?
[03:27] <wirechief_> KWGoD: check into #alsa in the am when people are around, you can ask for the alsa script and run it according to the instructions
[03:27] <hectorjr99> But its slow again...
[03:28] <cbwcjw> wirecheif_: Yea nothing really fits because jaunty seems to not use knetworkmanager
[03:28] <roque_> Ok. So now you have a Jaunty that works Ok except that's slow
[03:28] <hectorjr99> and i dont want to apply the patch 'cause im scared about breaking my pc AGAIN.
[03:28] <cbwcjw> wirecheif_: Im on gnome right now though.
[03:28] <hectorjr99> Yep!
[03:28] <KWGoD> so no help now?
[03:28] <hectorjr99> That's right!
[03:28] <hectorjr99> (really slow...)
[03:28] <hectorjr99> I mean it...
[03:28] <wirechief_> KWGoD:  i can meet you there...
[03:29] <KWGoD> ok
[03:29] <hectorjr99> I had no trouble when i migrated from windows to Intrepid Ibex, but now... im having kinda headache out from this...
[03:32] <roque_> See this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance? There are instructions to revert to the Ibex driver
[03:32] <jasael> viva san roque
[03:33] <cbwcjw> !es | jasael
[03:33] <hectorjr99> Thank you roque_ im gonna take a look...
[03:33] <jasael> ok ok sorry people
[03:34] <jasael> i like the english languaje
[03:34] <hectorjr99> ubottu: Puedo postear el mismo problema en el otro canal??? (solo que en español)
[03:34] <hectorjr99> xD
[03:34] <cbwcjw> !botsnack
[03:35] <roque_> Perhaps you should try the "Problem: EXA performance has regressed since Intrepid, but returns when using Greedy Migration" first
[03:35] <hectorjr99> Thanks
[03:35] <jasael> but my question is , to be or no to be?
[03:35] <hectorjr99> mmm
[03:35] <hectorjr99> I did so
[03:35] <hectorjr99> the last time
[03:36] <hectorjr99> When mi JJ messed up
[03:36] <jasael> omg
[03:36] <hectorjr99> that's exactly what i did
[03:36] <roque_> It cannot damage your system. Make the change to xorg.conf, reboot and see if it works. If not, undo the changes and try the driver change
[03:36] <hectorjr99> Ok!!!
[03:36] <hectorjr99> ill try just that!!1
[03:36] <jasael> bye bye
[03:36] <hectorjr99> See ya soon!
[03:37] <roque_> Good luck!
[03:37] <hectorjr99> Thank you!
[03:54] <eross> is kde3.5 forked, active, or dead?
[03:55] <genii> eross: There is a beta 9.04/kde3 iso
[03:57] <eross> cool
[03:57] <genii> eross: The http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/   where they are is linked to off an official Kubuntu page. So at least active.
[03:58] <genii> eross: No support is provided for these, AFAIK
[04:00] <eross> ok thanks
[04:00] <genii> eross: np
[04:09] <juan> hola
[04:10] <genii> !es | juan
[04:10] <hectorjr99> roque_: Hello?
[04:10] <hectorjr99> Aint worked...
[04:11] <hectorjr99> Im about to go nuts!!!
[04:11] <hectorjr99> T_______T (Jaunty must hate me...)
[04:12] <hectorjr99> I need help!
[04:12] <hectorjr99> My video card aint working properly!!!
[04:14] <hectorjr99> Im having trouble with a Intel Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[04:16] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: yes, the driver is troublesome in Jaunty; there's no guaranteed fix, unfortunately
[04:16] <hectorjr99> THANKS!!!
[04:16] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: What should I do???
[04:16] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[04:17] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: read through that, and take the "advanced users" warning seriously; it worked okay for me, but the UXA setting is a bit unstable, so ymmv
[04:17] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: Thanks, im checking it out. (what do you recommend me to do?)
[04:19] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: You were having the same trouble? And you fixed it using that tutorial? Im not an advanced user, should I take the risk? (I have installed Jaunty Jackalope 3 times today, because of using tutorials to fix the video card issue... T__T Im tired...) What should I do???
[04:21] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: well, he gives instructions for reverting the changes, and they work fine; I don't think it's too risky, but things can go wrong
[04:21] <genii> What do you have to lose at this point, really?
[04:21] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: if the problems are that bad, the safest bet is to revert to Intrepid with its more stable Intel drivers
[04:21] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: Things WENT really wrong with me using that tuto... My Jaunty really messed up, it wont even boot up... thats why I tell you...
[04:22] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: the one I just posted???
[04:22] <hectorjr99> Yep! the same one!!!
[04:22] <hectorjr99> :D
[04:23] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: which method did you try? the new kernel, or the changes that fix the current kernel?
[04:23] <hectorjr99> i know i aint got no more things to lose... (i have already lost everithing...)
[04:24] <hectorjr99> Download the relevant packages
[04:24] <bk> hello
[04:24] <maco> what tuts are you using for the video card? ive just been using the MigrationHeuristic greedy one and it's working fine
[04:24] <hectorjr99> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/intel-graphics-performance-guide-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html
[04:24] <hectorjr99> this on
[04:24] <hectorjr99> one
[04:24] <bk> is there an app that runs just like itunes?
[04:25] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: Im using the firt method...
[04:25] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: Should I try the second one?
[04:25] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: worth a shot; I'd suggest using Intrepid, though, if you don't want to spend more time figuring it out
[04:26] <hectorjr99> Well... It worked for you...
[04:26] <hectorjr99> Must work for me too...
[04:26] <hectorjr99> (wich method did you use?)
[04:26] <hectorjr99> firs or second?
[04:27] <p_quarles> hectorjr99: they both worked for me, but the first method disabled apparmor, which I didn't care for
[04:27] <hectorjr99> maco: Wich tuto did you use???
[04:27] <hectorjr99> p_quarles: Okay... im giving it a shot... gonna try the second method...
[04:27] <hectorjr99> wish me luck...
[04:27] <hectorjr99> T__T
[04:28] <hectorjr99> its late... and im tired...
[04:28] <bk> is there an app that is just like itunes?
[04:28] <roque_> Is your PC 64 bits?
[04:28] <Oceanwatcher> Maybe a stupid question, but... I have been using computers for a loooong time, but not been very much on IRC. And Quassel is totally new for me. Is there a way to click or a shortcut-whatever to make it easier to reply to a person? I like prefixing an answer with the name of the person...
[04:29] <r3c0n> man  o man.. running kubuntu 9.04 on this 38" panasonic badboy with overscan disabled is a geek's wet dream come true :D
[04:30] <hectorjr99> roque_: It's x86
[04:30] <r3c0n> how can i verify the credibility of a repo?
[04:30] <r3c0n> im trying to install freenx server on kubuntu 9.04, but the only repo i found is one without a gpg signature..
[04:31] <r3c0n> http://ppa.launchpad.net/freenx-team/ubuntu j
[04:31] <roque_> But 32 bits. Because there are 64 bits kernel packages linked in that tutorial
[04:32] <hectorjr99> really???
[04:33] <hectorjr99> Its 32 bits...
[04:33] <hectorjr99> How do I use that tuto though?
[04:33] <roque_> Then everything is Ok. Just asking
[04:34] <hectorjr99> ok...
[04:34] <hectorjr99> No problem
[04:36] <hectorjr99> Well... I think it was good as an experience... ... maybe Jaunty Jackalope is not for my pc... T__T
[04:36] <hectorjr99> Gonna try the second one...
[04:36] <hectorjr99> If anything goes wrong... Ill let you know... (hopefully...)
[04:37] <hectorjr99> See Ya!!!
[04:37] <mhall> hello all. I upgraded Kubuntu to Jaunty and knetworkmanager and jockey-kde quit being able to enable and use the Broadcom STA driver so now my wireless does not work. What do I need to do to fix it?
[04:37] <hectorjr99> And thanks you so much!!!
[04:53] <suhartanto> ping
[04:53] <suhartanto> hii anybody home
[04:53] <suhartanto> hii
[04:57] <XPS_M1330> I started copying large amount of file to a USB disk. plasma crashed, reloaded, now the "I" icon in the tray isn't there anymore but the process is still running. How can I shut it down so I can dismount my harddrive without damaging the FAT32 filesystem?
[05:07] <bindaas> XPS_M1330:do you have konsole ?
[05:51] <wizardslovak> hello people
[05:52] <wizardslovak> i just upgraded to 9.04 and my wireless doesnt work
[05:55] <sachin> hello i cant upgrade to 9.04. can anyone help me
[05:56] <DaSkreech> wizardslovak: Which wireless adapter?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> sachin: a little more information please
[05:56] <wizardslovak> hmmm i dont really know
[05:56] <wizardslovak> how can i find it?
[05:56] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[05:56] <DaSkreech> can you try that?
[05:58] <wizardslovak> here it says its intel pro wireless card
[05:59] <DaSkreech> What do you see when you type sudo lshw -C network ?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> !paste
[06:01] <wizardslovak> DaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/163984/
[06:02] <DaSkreech> wizardslovak: ok great what does iwconfig say ?
[06:03] <wizardslovak> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/163985/
[06:04] <ubsafder> hello
[06:04] <wizardslovak> in system setting -> network connections i did new wireless connection tho but i cant turn it on
[06:04] <DaSkreech> wizardslovak: There is no enable button?
[06:04] <wizardslovak> no
[06:04] <ubsafder> how can i format a drive FAT32 and mark all bad blocks
[06:05] <wizardslovak> in network management i see connection but no "connect" or"enable" button
[06:05] <wizardslovak> before on 8.04 version wireless worked perfectly, now i upgraded to 9.04 and it doesnt work
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Which Kubuntu are you using?
[06:05] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Hrrm
[06:06] <DaSkreech> try install wicd
[06:06] <wizardslovak> its installing
[06:40] <chx> now that i actually reinstalled Jaunty, it's cool.
[06:41] <chx> I SO missed a cube task switcher since i tried compiz.
[06:43] <mauricio> anybody from LA
[06:44] <geek_> lol
[06:44] <geek_> the cube is awesome ;)
[06:44]  * geek_ does wonder how long before it becomes a standard on all OSes ;p
[06:45] <DaSkreech> When they have more than one desktop
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Oh wait. There is only one OS with that
[06:45] <geek_> lol
[06:45] <dennisduffy> anyone able to get bluetooth to work with most recent stable?
[06:46] <geek_> DaSkreech: there's the BSDs ;p
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Still UNIX
[06:46] <geek_> er
[06:46] <geek_> reactos?
[06:46] <geek_> ;p
[06:46] <DaSkreech> Not an OS
[06:46]  * DaSkreech ducks
[06:47] <geek_> i'm clutching at straws here ;p
[06:47] <geek_> erf
[06:47]  * geek_ wonders why a crt is less readable than a LCD...
[06:47] <geek_> the crt is actually at a lower res, and the text feels... wierdly distantish
[06:47] <geek_> might be this STUPID table tho ><
[06:49] <tis_me> There's a bug report stating that the new bluetooth driver didn't work on some dongles
[06:49] <tis_me> They are:Bluetooth doesn't work for at least the following devices:
[06:49] <tis_me>     ID 1131:1001 Integrated System Solution Corp. KY-BT100 Bluetooth Adapter
[06:49] <tis_me>     ID 1131:1004 Integrated System Solution Corp. Bluetooth Device
[06:49] <tis_me>     ID 2001:f111 D-Link Corp. [hex] DBT-122 Bluetooth adapter
[06:49] <tis_me>     ID 0a5c:200a Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth dongle
[06:50] <dennisduffy> i was reading a bug report stating that there is a daemon that should be running that i think is not
[06:50] <tis_me> There's a fix
[06:50] <tis_me> See http://www.nabble.com/-Intrepid,-Jaunty--SRU:-Fix-bluetooth-hci-timout-td22779130.html
[06:51] <dennisduffy> thanks!
[06:52] <tis_me> No problem, my bluetooth mouse wasn't working 'cause the upgrade rewrote my xorg.conf  :(
[06:59] <chx> but edges and corners do not work/act weird -- cube works but present windows apparently does not :(
[07:04] <rakoth> Hi!
[07:05] <rakoth> Can anyone help me with updating from 8.04 to 9.04? Is it possible?
[07:10] <RurouniJones> Anyone know how I can manually set the CPU Frequency? I have set "Power Management" to a userspace profile now I just need to change the frequency manually. Any ideas? I don't want to install the gnome-applets just for cpufreq-selector
[07:12] <RurouniJones> Got it - cpufrequtils
[07:22] <ubuntu_> close
[07:22] <joshjtl> hey folks, trying to record sound... not able to with audacity or kwave.e..
[07:33] <robinp> rakoth: look on the ubuntu 9.04 install page
[07:34] <chx> rakoth: possible>
[07:34] <chx> rakoth: possible? yes.
[07:35] <chx> rakoth: desireable? not necessarily. you end with a mix of kde3 and 4 and i myself ended up reinstalling after that.
[07:36] <rakoth> chx,robinp: it requires disabling 3rd party repos, and fails after that!
[07:36] <DaSkreech> what are we talking about?
[07:36] <rakoth> chx,robinp: And 8.10 upgraded OK with the same repos =)
[07:37] <rakoth> DaSkreech: girls, as usual
[07:38] <DaSkreech> You disabled your third party Girl repo?
[07:58] <JohanSJA> j #rubyonrails
[08:00] <cjae> ok how do I make software manager kpackage or whatever it is use a password?
[08:06] <eagles0513875> cjae: you do that when you start installing stuff it will ask you after you hit ok to installing dependencies for a program
[08:07] <cjae> ah
[08:33] <cjae> um yah kpackage didnt ask me for password
[08:33] <cjae> 9.04
[08:34] <cjae> I just installed vlc and it never asked, keep it mind I know that sudo is remembered for a few minutes
[08:35] <cjae> also how does one make kwallet as soon as you select kontact
[08:40] <evilGary> owww, the kubuntu installer looks nicer than (many) versions ago when I last played with kubuntu
[08:43] <kbmaniac> Hi, is anyone here using the fglrx ati driver and has desktop effects working ?
[08:44] <kbmaniac> when I enable desktop effects I get black screen flashes and the display is unusable
[08:55] <tony__> hello
[08:57] <samim> hello
[09:17] <alex___> hi all
[09:17] <alex___> oh, people!!!
[09:19] <samim> I have a problem with my sound card, anyone can help??
[09:20] <alex___> а руссий народ есть?
[09:20] <alex___> *русский
[09:24] <Pepeg> hi everybody
[09:31] <Rusty_Q> can someone please help me?
[09:31] <Rusty_Q> I'm trying to install amarok 1.4, using the packages here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bogdanb/+archive/ppa
[09:31] <Rusty_Q> however there are 2 deb files that won't install because they depend on eachother
[09:32] <jussi01> Rusty_Q: sudo dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb
[09:32] <jussi01> or just add the repo to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:34] <Rusty_Q> it worked, thanks
[09:35] <gigasoft> how can i make kde start many transparent ?
[09:36] <Rusty_Q> another problem, Amarok 1.4 says "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers"
[09:39] <ocs> hi. I have messed up something while upgrading. now, I can't launch kde environment. what can I do ?
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ocs: does it hang on the loading screen
[09:41] <ocs> eagles0513875: I can't choose it in the list of the environments. Now I'm using xfce
[09:41] <eagles0513875> ocs: is this a kubuntu install that you installed xfce on
[09:41] <ocs> eagles0513875: yes
[09:42] <eagles0513875> ok did it ask you what desktop manager you wanted to use
[09:42] <ocs> eagles0513875: yes. and kde4 was not in the choice
[09:42] <eagles0513875> when you installed it did it ask you what desktop manager like kdm etc
[09:42] <eagles0513875> kdm = kde desktop manager
[09:43] <ocs> no
[09:43] <ocs> I just installed kubuntu, then added xfce
[09:43] <eagles0513875> ocs: try sudo dpkg --reconfigure kdm
[09:43] <eagles0513875> see if that does anything
[09:43] <ocs> eagles0513875: I just wrote apt-get upgrade kdm
[09:43] <Rusty_Q> how did you add xfce?
[09:44] <ocs> Rusty_Q: apt-get
[09:44] <Rusty_Q> did you install xubuntu-desktop?
[09:44] <ocs> Rusty_Q: no. only xfce
[09:44] <ocs> eagles0513875: let's try. thanks
[09:44] <eagles0513875> Rusty_Q: he wants a plain xfce desktop with no programs installed
[09:45] <eagles0513875> thats kinda what i do with kubuntu strip it to command line and install the kde-base package only then install programs i use
[09:46] <Rusty_Q> 9.04 is perfect bar amarok 2
[09:46] <Rusty_Q> it'd be fine if amarok 1.4 was in the repos
[09:48] <geek_> Rusty_Q: and quassel
[09:48] <eagles0513875> Rusty_Q: amarok 2.1 is in the kubuntu-experimental ppa
[09:48] <Rusty_Q> I like Quassel
[09:48]  * geek_ even has it stable since the last intel/xorg update
[09:48] <ocs> eagles0513875: I don't have --reconfigure option in dpkg
[09:48] <geek_> its not... finished ;p
[09:48] <eagles0513875> ocs: im not sure if its -reconfigure
[09:48] <ocs> eagles0513875:
[09:48] <ocs>        --configure package...|-a|--pending
[09:48] <ocs>               Reconfigure an unpacked package. If -a or --pending is given instead of package, all unpacked but unconfigured packages are configured.
[09:49] <eagles0513875> ocs: its sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:50] <ocs> eagles0513875: nothing solved
[09:51] <eagles0513875> ocs: give me a few to do some googling for ya
[09:51] <ocs> eagles0513875: thanks very much
[09:51] <eagles0513875> ocs: might have found the answer 2 give me a sec
[09:51] <Rusty_Q> meh, I'll have a look at amarok 2.1 when it's stable, I'm fine with 1.4
[09:52] <ocs> meanwhile, I reboot
[09:55] <eagles0513875> ocs: can you try something for me dpkg-reconfigure xdk
[09:55] <eagles0513875> xdm i mean ocs
[09:56] <ocs> eagles0513875: I'm trying apt-get purge kdm before
[09:56] <eagles0513875> ocs all that does is purge the desktop manager settings
[09:56] <eagles0513875> the command i gave you allows you to reconfigure it and  choose the desktop manager which in this case would be kdm
[09:56] <eagles0513875> if you changed it
[09:57] <ocs> eagles0513875: ok let me try
[09:58] <eagles0513875> ocs: if it asks you to choose a desktop manager please choose kdm
[09:58] <ocs> eagles0513875: yes, just done
[09:58] <ocs> and now ?
[09:58] <eagles0513875> ocs: :) try see if you can get onto kde if not let me know
[09:59] <ocs> eagles0513875: nothing
[10:03] <ocs> eagles0513875: nothing done...
[10:03] <eagles0513875> ocs: did you upgrade from intrepid to jaunty
[10:03] <ocs> eagles0513875: no
[10:04] <eagles0513875> humm strange
[10:04] <ocs> well, I mean: I just upgraded
[10:04] <ocs> but I don't know from what to what
[10:04] <eagles0513875> thats most likely  your problem
[10:04] <eagles0513875> !version | ocs
[10:04] <ocs> In addition: kdm daemon is active
[10:05] <ocs> eagles0513875: 9.10 intrepid
[10:05] <eagles0513875> if you wentok
[10:05] <eagles0513875> ok
[10:05] <ocs> (8.10)
[10:05] <eagles0513875> can you purge kubuntu-desktop and reinstall please
[10:06] <ocs> eagles0513875: I didn't have it. now I'm installing it
[10:07] <eagles0513875> ocs: that could be why you cant get on kde
[10:10] <eagles0513875> ocs: did it work
[10:11] <eagles0513875> guess it did :)
[10:12] <eagles0513875> ocs :) seems like it worked seeing your on konversation or am i wrong
[10:12] <ocs> eagles0513875: great! now I can start kde. but the windows don't work properly
[10:12] <ocs> so I was forced to switch to xfce again
[10:12] <eagles0513875> ocs: what kind of video card do you have
[10:12] <ocs> eagles0513875: I don't remember
[10:13] <ocs> but I can't see the border of the windows
[10:13] <Rusty_Q> presume intel
[10:13] <eagles0513875> ocs: probably need to reconfigure your xorg
[10:13] <ocs> eagles0513875: in which way ?
[10:13] <eagles0513875> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[10:13] <eagles0513875> ocs: you need it to redetect your resolutions probably for kde
[10:13] <ocs> lets' try
[10:14] <eagles0513875> ocs: can you open a command line and type in lspci and tell me what your video card is plz before you do the other command
[10:20] <ocs> eagles0513875: nothing solved. the windows are messed up. should I upgrade to 9.10 ?
[10:20] <eagles0513875> ocs: thats up to you if you have any data you want backedup there isnt anything to loose
[10:21] <eagles0513875> brb let me try get onto xfce and see if i can get back on here
[10:21] <ocs> anyway, is there another way to restore the windows ?
[10:21] <eagles0513875> ocs: thats what im not sure on
[10:22] <eagles0513875> can you run an lspci for me and let me know what video card you have
[10:23] <ocs> eagles0513875: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164080/
[10:23] <eagles0513875> interesting you have an nvidia 7300gs
[10:24] <eagles0513875> !nvidia
[10:24] <eagles0513875> ocs: give me a sec to read up on something
[10:24] <kaddi> !sound
[10:24] <ocs> eagles0513875: you are too kind
[10:24] <eagles0513875> ocs: thats the whole community spirit and 2ndly installing the driver might fix your issue
[10:25] <ocs> but are you sure it's a problem of the video card ?
[10:25] <eagles0513875> trying to see what driver you need
[10:25] <eagles0513875> ocs: you probably dont have the driver for your card installed
[10:25] <eagles0513875> for me i have an nvidia installed out of the box no problems with windows in jaunty so anything is worth a shot right
[10:25] <Guest43193> Hi, what is the irc channel for italian ubuntu?
[10:25] <ocs> (you are right: in my side, I try to help people in understanding c++)
[10:26] <Guest43193> not... found XD
[10:26] <Guest43193> thanks
[10:26] <eagles0513875> ocs: well you can help me then i wanna learn lol
[10:26] <ocs> Guest43193: va' su azzurra
[10:26] <eagles0513875> o
[10:26] <Guest43193> #ubuntu-it
[10:26] <eagles0513875> Guest43193: there is one hold on
[10:26] <eagles0513875> !it | Guest43193
[10:27] <ocs> eagles0513875: just ask:)
[10:27] <eagles0513875> :) well join kubuntu-offtopic for non support issues
[10:28] <eagles0513875> ocs: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[10:28] <eagles0513875> that is the driver you want
[10:31] <kaddi> could anyone help with my sound problem: it was working fine yesterday, now when i start amarok it just ays "the audio playback device "hda intel name" does not work falling back on """
[10:31] <kaddi> how can i get it back to work?
[10:31] <eagles0513875> ahhhh kaddi i have that problem 2
[10:32] <eagles0513875> kaddi: open up system settings and hit multimedia and move pulse audio to the top of the list and test it
[10:32] <eagles0513875> i have a 2 channel hd sound card in my laptop with the same issue
[10:32] <eagles0513875> kaddi: after you do that test it if you have sound your good to go. i usually put pulseaudio at the very top of the list
[10:32] <eagles0513875> morning ActionParsnip
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:33]  * eagles0513875 wishes i could use my hd channel on my sound card :(
[10:33] <kaddi> i get the same message only with pulseaudio instead of hdaintel :(
[10:33]  * ActionParsnip wishes people would MD5 the ISO
[10:33] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: ?
[10:33] <eagles0513875> kaddi: then set hdaintel to the analog channel at the top of that list and test and let me know
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> just een on launchpad and so MANY people not checking their ISO and getting issues at install
[10:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[10:34] <eagles0513875> i havent had issues then again i did usb install
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> I'm not kidding, I ended up copying and pasting it
[10:34] <eagles0513875> wow
[10:35] <eagles0513875> im swearing at my sound card
[10:35] <eagles0513875> i woudl rather use its digital channel whcih doesnt work then pulse audio driver
[10:35] <kaddi> eagles0513875 that was at the top when the problem started: I only have HDA Intel (ALC568 analog) and PulseAudio listed. both give the same error message :(
[10:35] <eagles0513875> kaddi: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart please
[10:36] <eagles0513875> i like the way kvirc actually offers command completion
[10:37] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: any idea why i cant use my hdaintel sound drivers without them crashing and me having to use pulse audio
[10:37] <eagles0513875> i would love to use the digital option cept i get no sound out of it what so ever and the analog channel crashes
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: not sure. ive never used hd audio
[10:37] <eagles0513875> ocs: any luck
[10:38] <kaddi> also: wicd is playing with my internet connection :p
[10:38] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: this whole laptop being a tablet is hd audio video lol
[10:38] <ocs> eagles0513875: solved all. it was not a driver problem. purged and reinstalled kwin* stuff and now all works
[10:38] <kaddi> did that get through: [11:35] <kaddi> eagles0513875 that was at the top when the problem started: I only have HDA Intel (ALC568 analog) and PulseAudio listed. both give the same error message :(
[10:38] <eagles0513875> ya it did kaddi
[10:38] <kaddi> ok :)
[10:38] <dwidmann> eagles0513875: there are lots of different chips that say intel hd audio on them, but not all of them are created equal
[10:38] <ocs> anyway, five stars to eagles0513875. If you need something for c++ just ask me in #c++ :)
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i see, i just use cheapo sound that i know will work and sound absolutely fine
[10:38] <eagles0513875> ocs: :) kool dont hesitate to come back if you experience more issues
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ocs: your not in there
[10:39] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: it came with the laptop
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: research m'lad
[10:39] <eagles0513875> acutually dwidmann and ActionParsnip mine is an nvidia hd audio
[10:39] <faLUCE> now I'm there
[10:39] <faLUCE> :)
[10:40] <eagles0513875> nvidia mcp51 hd audio
[10:40] <faLUCE> eagles0513875: to be honest, there's another thing. I don't find khexedit anymore.
[10:40] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: hda intel is pretty much the new intel8x0
[10:40] <eagles0513875> !info khexedit
[10:40] <eagles0513875> !khexedit
[10:40] <faLUCE> yes but... is there anything which replaces it ?
[10:41] <dwidmann> But, I think khexedit still exists
[10:41] <xerox1> can anybody tell me, where to ajust the color of the task bar? somehow it changed to blue...
[10:41] <faLUCE> dwidmann: yes but... where ?
[10:41] <kaddi> i think it might be called okteta now?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> dwidmann: i use realtek onboard stuff,works like a charm
[10:42] <dwidmann> or does it ... hmm
[10:42] <faLUCE> I read somewhere that it's in  kdeutils. but it doesn't seem
[10:42] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: thats mydesktop with realtek
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: mines nvidia audio but its actually a realtek chip
[10:43] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: strange how lspci pulls it up as nvidia
[10:43] <eagles0513875> dwidmann: it doesnt i did apt-cache search and policy
[10:43] <dwidmann> ActionParsnip: I just searched for khexedit in the kde src ... there is a folder for it in kdelibs-dev, but that's it ... so it's not in any of the main modules
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i think its because of the southbridge being the interface between
[10:44] <eagles0513875> could be are there drivers available in repos for the mcp51 sound chip
[10:44] <dwidmann> ah, faLUCE, look for okteta
[10:45] <kaddi> brb
[10:46] <faLUCE> dwidmann: thanks
[10:46] <faLUCE> dwidmann: found also a new version of kdeutils
[10:47] <eagles0513875> brb
[10:47] <bomber0> oops
[10:49] <eagles0513875> !audio
[10:49] <eagles0513875> is the bot broken
[10:49] <eagles0513875> !audio
[10:49] <eagles0513875> ! audio
[10:49]  * eagles0513875 starts swearing at the bot
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[10:52] <dwidmann> hahahahaha arts ..... that's out of date I think
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> it usually is
[10:52] <eagles0513875> im looking at the 2nd link
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> but some bits can give clues
[10:56] <u-guard> hello
[10:57] <eagles0513875> !hi | u-guard
[10:57] <u-guard> is there any program in Kubuntu for partitioning disks?
[10:57] <eagles0513875> !partition
[10:57] <eagles0513875> u-guard: see links above
[10:58] <dwidmann> Another thing I saw in the repository was partitionmanager - I intend to see what it is later
[10:58] <u-guard> ok thanks
[10:59] <dmoyne> salut ; sur jaunty pas moyen de faire fonctionner mon micro avec audacity ou skype
[10:59] <dwidmann> ah, wait, it looks like !partition was updated for 9.04 to reflect that
[11:00] <kaddi> !fr |dmoyne
[11:00] <eagles0513875> !fr | dmoyne
[11:00] <kaddi> i was quicker :p ;)
[11:00] <kaddi> what does apt-check do?
[11:00] <eagles0513875> ! fr | dmoyne
[11:00] <eagles0513875> damn bot
[11:00] <dmoyne> sorry, no way to get my mike workin with audacity or skype on jaunty 64 bits
[11:01] <kaddi> eagles0513875: if the same command is entered by 2 persons, it's only displayed once ;) I have also been victim of this ;)
[11:02] <kaddi> btw after reboot the analog sound is back \o/ pulse still won't work though... if anyone has any ideas what i kan do about that?
[11:04] <eagles0513875> kaddi: well tsimpson is reprogramming the bot with more necessary functionality for kubuntu in ruby
[11:06] <kaddi> eagles0513875: i actually think that is a wanted feature. If 4 people request the same message displayed for somebody, displaying the message once still gets that someone the needed info and doesn't "spam" the channel
[11:07] <eagles0513875> kaddi: head to kubuntu-offtopic so we dont take channel offtopic plz
[11:07] <kaddi> talking about the bot: is there a complete list of commans you can give ubottu?
[11:07] <kaddi> sry
[11:07] <eagles0513875> kaddi: you would need to ask the person whose reprogramming it
[11:07] <dwidmann> !bot
[11:08] <asd> ?brr
[11:09] <u-guard> Can i have my /home as a different part after installinf ubuntu?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> !home
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> peace out kids, word to your mother
[11:10] <asd> ela gadra sacreamenti
[11:11] <eagles0513875> asd: what language are you looking for
[11:11] <asd> i just kiddin,
[11:11] <asd> is this the developers rooms?
[11:11] <asd> *room
[11:12] <eagles0513875> asd: #kubuntu-devel
[11:12] <asd> thanks ...
[11:25] <dmoyne> no way to get my mike workin with audacity or skype on jaunty 64 bits
[11:28] <Rusty_Q> what brand of mic is it?
[11:29] <eagles0513875> dmoyne: lsusb shoudl tell you what mic it is
[11:29] <dmoyne> this a headsetplantronics
[11:30] <dmoyne> my mike is not connected on usb but on the front head sound ports of my compuster
[11:31] <dmoyne> my mike works with skype or audacity on another 64 bits jaunty machine
[11:33] <dmoyne> ok other people have reported similar problem on internet I will check for updates bye and thanks !
[11:41] <m1dn1ght> hi guys- trying kubuntu for the first time but can't figure out how to add a keyboard shortcut to open a terminal.  In gnome it's one of the items on the list to change but the list of shortcuts in kde doesn't seem to have it.
[11:43] <m1dn1ght> anyone have any idea how to do that?
[11:44] <PhilRod> m1dn1ght: system settings -> input actions
[11:44] <PhilRod> the interface is a little wonky, but you can probably work it out
[11:45] <PhilRod> hrm, it's actually even wonkier than I remembered
[11:45] <m1dn1ght> PhilRod: thanks - I was looking in system settings > keyboard & mouse > standard keyboard shortcuts.
[11:45] <m1dn1ght> PhilRod: heh - yeah - looking now doesn't seem to have what I need :)
[11:45] <PhilRod> yeah, that would be a more obvious place for it ,but input actions is quite cool if you can work out how to use it :-)
[11:45] <PhilRod> under "examples" there's "run konsole"
[11:47] <m1dn1ght> PhilRod: nods - I got it now.  thanks for the help
[11:49] <PhilRod> urgh, the only way to add a new action is to right-click on an existing one
[11:49] <PhilRod> I think this dialog is in need of some love
[11:51] <m1dn1ght> I just right clicked empty space on the left, chose new global shortcut, command/url....then named it "run terminal", made the command konsole.
[11:52] <m1dn1ght> had to collapse the lists first
[11:52] <PhilRod> yeah, it's kinda ugly. Pity, because the functionality is so powerful
[11:52] <PhilRod> it used to even have a kind of rudimentary voice recognition
[11:52] <StevenR> the fstab line is correct, even putting a mount command in /etc/rc.local isn't working
[11:53] <StevenR> hi. we've upgraded to 9.04, and before the upgrade, a windows share was mounted on boot (smbfs/cifs)... now this doesn't happen. I can mount the share manually, but it must mount on boot... how do I make this happen?
[11:54] <StevenR> (it's got the "auto" option in fstab too... it just simply isn't mount)
[11:56] <m1dn1ght> thanks again for the help!
[11:59] <StevenR> no-one?
[12:02] <PhilRod> StevenR: random guess: take a look in /etc/init.d/mountall.sh - that seems to be where the logic for this stuff is
[12:02] <PhilRod> well, in intrepid anyway
[12:04] <kaddi> how do i get jaunty to simply log off (reboot, shutdown etc) when I click the entry in the kickoff menu instead of giving me the 30seconds timewindow to decide whether i really want to do what i just said i wanted to do?
[12:12] <mustdie> hi
[12:12] <kaddi> !hi |mustdie
[12:15] <koleesch> hello
[12:16] <koleesch> kdesudo won't my password
[12:17] <eagles0513875> koleesch: what exactly the problem
[12:17] <koleesch> how get i kdesudo to work
[12:17] <eagles0513875> koleesch: you trying to open a file from command line right
[12:17] <koleesch> i want to install the required plugins for amarok
[12:18] <eagles0513875> kdesudo has nothing to do with it
[12:18] <koleesch> and there i get the kdesudo dialog
[12:18] <eagles0513875> koleesch: whats the name of the package you are trying to install
[12:18] <eagles0513875> dont use kdesudo
[12:18] <eagles0513875> use just sudo koleesch
[12:18] <StevenR> PhilRod: yeah. that runs, but before the network is ready, in some stupid fashion.
[12:18] <koleesch> libmp3lame flash und some more
[12:18] <StevenR> PhilRod: I worked around it with a sleep in rc.local
[12:19] <eagles0513875> koleesch: install kubuntu-restricted-extras it has all that stuff flash and java and what not
[12:24] <PhilRod> StevenR: did that fix it?
[12:24] <StevenR> PhilRod: yeah.
[12:25] <eagles0513875> !su | koleesch
[12:25] <StevenR> not sure if this is a hangover from the upgrade, or a bug
[12:25] <eagles0513875> !root | koleesch
[12:25] <PhilRod> StevenR: urgh, there must be a proper way to do it. Does samba install anything in /etc/init.d that might do it? (I don't have samba installed to check)
[12:26] <StevenR> PhilRod: it could jsut be a simple problem with ordering in rc2.d
[12:26] <PhilRod> ah, maybe
[12:28] <tetss> hello
[12:29] <kaddi> !hi | tetss
[12:29] <kaddi> :)
[12:32] <eagles0513875> !de | koleesch
[12:32] <eagles0513875> gnomefreak: ping
[12:32] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: ?
[12:33] <eagles0513875> see above the de link from the bot
[12:33] <eagles0513875> showing weird symbols
[12:33] <gnomefreak> eagles0513875: cant do anything about it as i recall its on your end
[12:33] <eagles0513875> its never done that before this is the first time that has happened
[12:35] <kaddi> eagles it might just be your encoding, that's off... maybe try /charset utf8 or something and check whether that fixes it
[12:36] <gnomefreak> kaddi: thats not a freenode command and we know / doesnt really do anything in terminal
[12:37] <igor_> hi, I had some error (don't remeber exectly) and I restarted X, but now KDE doesn't start (kubunt 9.04). I tried to move .kde folder, but it didn't help. May be there could be some logs or etc&
[12:37] <igor_> ?
[12:37] <kaddi>  /charset worked fine on my end... might be konversation translating it into the "correct command" though
[12:37] <freinhard> hi!
[12:37] <freinhard> how do i restart nepomuk?
[12:37] <eagles0513875> igor_: try remove the .ICEauthority that used to fix my issue of a stalled desktop that wouldnt load
[12:37] <freinhard> looks like it crashed and krunner refuses to start now.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> kaddi: .:07:38:02:. ==> Irssi: Unknown command: charset
[12:38] <kaddi> [13:34] [Info] Switched to utf8 encoding.
[12:38] <kaddi> :D
[12:40] <adasz> hi i think i have found an bug in kubuntu jaunty, in add and remove software when i change the filter to only installed and then all packeges it shows nothing
[12:40]  * gnomefreak asking in #irssi :)
[12:41] <eagles0513875> !lp
[12:41] <eagles0513875> adasz: also the adept has been replaced with new package manager
[12:41] <Peace-_> kaddi: dbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer logout 0 2 0
[12:41] <adasz> i know but the new package manager have a bug
[12:41] <jarle> I need to run ssh from a remote machine for a cron backup job. Could I create a new user that will have read access to all files for this purpose, or will I need to create a root account? (Guess I can't use sudo in an automated ssh cron job?)
[12:42] <kaddi> Peace-_ ?
[12:42] <eagles0513875> adasz: for any bugs go to www.launchpad.net and report them there
[12:42] <Peace-_> kaddi: that comand closer your pc without 30 seconds of stuff
[12:42] <Peace-_> kaddi: that command line close your pc without 30 seconds of waiting
[12:42] <Pici> !bugs
[12:43] <PhilRod> jarle: you can try editing /etc/sudoers to allow a particular command without password. I don't remember the exact syntax though, so you'd have to tkae a look at the manpage
[12:43] <Peace-_> kaddi: and of couse it works only on local pc
[12:43] <kaddi> ah thanks :) Somebody gave me a hint about the "advanced" section of systemsettings... hadn't noticed that one before ( -.- ) and I found where i could change those settings
[12:43] <kaddi> but knowing the commandline equivalent is always useful :D
[12:43] <Peace-_> kaddi:  :) that could use on bash script
[12:44] <Peace-_> kaddi: i do for conversion , when it has done it close my pc xD
[12:44] <kaddi> :D
[12:45] <jarle> PhilRod: I'll be using rsnapshot (the uses rsync), so I guess there will not be a specific command run on the ubuntu machine, it's just crsyncing files from it...)
[12:46] <jarle> PhilRod: all I need is a user that has complete read access to the filesystem for a remote login, no need to run any programs.
[12:46] <MarshWiggle> Might anyone be able to help me with configuring my screen resolution on kubuntu 9.04. I read the FAQ but still have trouble.
[12:47] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: what kind of video card do you have
[12:48] <MarshWiggle> nvidia Geforce 6200
[12:48] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: give me a min please
[12:48] <MarshWiggle> certainly
[12:48] <eagles0513875> !nvidia | eagles0513875
[12:48] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: are you on intrepid or jaunty
[12:49] <MarshWiggle> kubuntu 9.04, downloaded it today. i assume that is jaunty?
[12:49] <PhilRod> jarle: ah, I see. Hrm, then I'm not sure of the best solution, sorry
[12:50] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: ya it is so have you checked under system and hardware drivers that should list the appropriate drivers for your card. choose the latest one from there if not let me know if it doesnt detect the driver for you
[12:50] <JuJuBee> I just removed amarok2 and reinstalled 1.4.  How do I get amarok to recognize the playlists in the directory?
[12:51] <jarle> PhilRod: I solved this problem once before and I think I ended up just creating a root account, I just wanted to check if there were better ways to solve this..
[12:51] <eagles0513875> jarle: dont recommend enabling root to be honest
[12:52] <MarshWiggle> eagles0513875: the image quailty was good, but i didn't have the higher screen resolutions. I then installed the nvidia driver that it recomended - this resulted in a slightly higher screen resolution (but not the one i need being avaliable. It has also resulted in the pcture quality being more pixelated
[12:52] <vkr1234> offtopic. i have one question for english native speaker. can somebody help me? pls priv me.
[12:53] <MarshWiggle> eagles0513875:  So now i have the recomended nvidia driver but still not the resolution or frame rate that i actually need. and the image quality is messed up for some reason
[12:53] <kaddi> vkr1234 you could also ask in #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:53] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: after you install it a reboot is required
[12:53] <MarshWiggle> I have done that yes
[12:53] <MarshWiggle> eagles0513875: I tried the driver option before coming into irc
[12:53] <jarle> eagles0513875: I know, but how would you be able to backup all /etc/ files to a remote system, if not by logging in as root?
[12:54] <eagles0513875> sudo -i
[12:54] <eagles0513875> that gives you a root command promp
[12:54] <eagles0513875> prompt*
[12:55] <jarle> eagles0513875: ... and I need to achived this using rsync over ssh from a remote machine..
[12:55] <eagles0513875> jarle: sudo -i is the next best thing to root itself
[12:55] <MarshWiggle> eagles0513875: I suspect since the nvidia driver is not helping even after restart that i may have to manually configure the xorg.conf or something like that?
[12:56] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: maybe but i was looking at xorg.conf helping someone earlier there isnt much in xorg.conf anyway in terms of resolution
[12:57] <harald_> hello togehter... today i receeived from "ship it" my Kubuntu CD.... but the version is only i386 and i need amd64... sombody now how i can order a other version on shipit? i dont find any option on this site
[12:57] <MarshWiggle> eagles0513875: i've heard you can manually imput missing screen resolution values into xorg.conf somehow though, is that right?
[12:57] <afeijo> hi folks, how can I access and change a username password from a machine where the user was fired?
[12:59] <eagles0513875> MarshWiggle: you used to im not sure exactly what changes have been made to xorg for jaunty
[12:59] <harald_> nobody nows how to change the kubuntu version on the shipit site?
[12:59] <MarshWiggle> eagles0513875: thanks anyways
[13:03] <adasz> in my kubuntu jaunty is nothin in german but i want it in german what can i do?
[13:05] <Combatfrog> When I use the search feature in the KDE start menu, sometimes when I put in words, they don't show, as they get stuck or something.. I have to mouse over the invisible letters to make them appear. Also, when doing this, the regular buttons dissapear to make room for search results,
[13:05] <Combatfrog> And when I remove my search input (the buttons should come back) they are invisible, just like the search input
[13:06] <Combatfrog> And I have to mouse over for them to appear. Anyone heard of this problem?
[13:07] <harald_> adasz: look here how you get kubuntu in german
[13:07] <harald_> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/KDE4?highlight=kde4%20deutsch
[13:07] <afeijo> how to recover lost password??
[13:08] <Pici> !password
[13:09] <afeijo> thanks Pici
[13:10] <Waldbaer> hi @all
[13:10] <eagles0513875> !hi | Waldbaer
[13:14] <JuJuBee> Can anybody tell me how to get amarok 1.4 to read the 40+ playlist files in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/playlists/  ?
[13:29] <afeijo> I'm trying to burn kubuntu 9 to a cd-r, but k3b is asking for a dvd-r ???
[13:30] <cinex> afeijo:  u using k3b?
[13:30] <afeijo> yes
[13:30] <cinex> tell it to burn a cd image
[13:30] <cinex> and it should be fine
[13:30] <afeijo> cinex: found it, dumb me, thanks
[13:40] <salut> hello! all the room
[13:43] <eagles0513875> hi salut
[13:43] <eagles0513875> !hi | Salac
[13:43] <eagles0513875> miss type
[13:43] <eagles0513875> !hi | salut
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Good Day folks
[13:50] <MarshWiggle_> hi BluesKaj
[13:58] <salut> hello any friend here
[14:02] <Eruaran> Konqueror crashes randomly daily
[14:02] <BluesKaj> !ask | salut
[14:03] <Eruaran> And when I have active downloads and Konqueror crashes, the download manager in the systray stops functioning
[14:04] <Eruaran> You're left with download widgets that have stopped, and cant be gotten rid of
[14:20] <wsjunior> hi guys, is there any tutorial to learn how to configure 3g modems with kde 4?
[14:21] <wsjunior> i got mine working with wvdial but cant make it with knetworkmanager..
[14:24] <wsjunior> hello?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> wsjunior, are you on intrepid ?
[14:33] <wsjunior> BluesKaj: No, I'm on Jaunty.
[14:35] <wsjunior> It was quite simple to configure it using Ubuntu but with Kubuntu ive already spent some weeks without sucess..
[14:35] <wsjunior> I have to always connect from the terminal using wvdial, I would like knetworkmanager would handle it automatically...
[14:36] <katie> hey all, jaunty broke my wireless-- has anyone experienced this?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> wsjunior , have you tried plasma-widget-network-manager , knetworkmanager may not work since it's no longer the default internet connection manger in jaunty
[14:36] <kaddi> katie: how did it break your wireless? do you use an encrypted wifi and knetworkmanager / the network-widget?
[14:38] <katie> kaddi: wireless worked in Hardy, and with the update it looks like Jaunty doesn't recognize the wireless card - I do have encrypted wifi, knetworkmanager, although it doesn't work with knetworkmanager anymore either
[14:38] <kaddi> katie: I'm on a WPA-encoded network and knetworkmanager won't connect. The nm-applet from gnome and wicd work though.
[14:38] <kaddi> katie: unencrypted networks still work with knetworkmanager though, not sure it's the same issue
[14:38] <BluesKaj> !plasma-widget-network-manager
[14:38] <BluesKaj> !network
[14:39] <wsjunior> BluesKaj: Yes, i tried to configure it using the plasmoid..
[14:39] <katie> kaddi: when i do iwconfig, wlan0 doesn't show up... does it for you?
[14:39] <susscorfa> what is the kpdf package in jaunty?
[14:39] <wsjunior> BluesKaj: it does recognize my 3g modem but when i ask it to connect it just stays trying and nothing..
[14:39] <kaddi> susscorfa: okular
[14:39] <susscorfa> thx kaddi
[14:40] <BluesKaj> wsjunior , you add it using "add widgets"
[14:40] <jimmy51_> i'm running 4 kubuntu machines at home now.  i'm getting to the point where i want to start messing around with the linux "active directory" alternative.  where should i start?
[14:40] <kaddi> katie: yes, that's way I think it's not the same issue. For me it was a KDE-issue, nm-applet works fine
[14:40] <wizardslovak> hello people
[14:40] <katie> n00b question, but if I had a wireless driver for Hardy, will it work with Jaunty
[14:41] <katie> oh okay
[14:41] <kaddi> *why
[14:42] <wizardslovak> what is command to update system?
[14:42] <wsjunior> BluesKaj: it already came added
[14:44] <Oceanwatcher_> Anyone here that know how to use Quassel?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> wsjunior , you may have to use a different driver or ndiswrapper if the same driuver works on windows
[14:44] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[14:45] <wsjunior> BluesKaj: ndiswrapper for 3g connections? are u crazy?
[14:45] <Oceanwatcher_> To the left of the typing area, I have a drop down with my nick. And I have got an extra nick there, so I am not able to use my registered nick here. What gives? How do I remove the one I do not want?
[14:45] <wsjunior> I'm using my cell phone to connect.. A N95..
[14:45] <wsjunior> It works flawleslly with nm-applet
[14:46] <BluesKaj> wsjunior, beyond my scope
[14:46] <kaddi> katie: the wireless driver might have changed from hardy to jaunty. It's the only thing I can think of. but I don't really know a lot abot it
[14:48] <BluesKaj> katie , install plasma-widget-network-manager
[14:49] <wizardslovak> what is command for software update?
[14:49] <katie> blueskaj: thanks-- any idea why when I do an lspci, my wireless card shows up, but it doesn't show up in iwconfig?
[14:50] <dx> man, this 9.04 is really bad.
[14:50] <dx> usb devices are not working
[14:50] <BluesKaj> wsjunior , perhaps if you would explain your problem in a little more detail. Then i would have understood you were trying setup with a cellphone...but there's no need to insult ppl . We're all volunteers here
[14:50] <katie> blueskaj: I already had that updated
[14:50] <Dragnslcr> wizardslovak- you mean to update packages from a shell?
[14:50] <wizardslovak> yes
[14:50] <xerox1> !rules
[14:51] <kaddi> dx type lsusb into a shell, if your usb-stick is listed, you can mount it manually :)
[14:52] <Dragnslcr> wizardslovak- 'sudo apt-get update' to update your package list, 'sudo apt-get upgrade' to install updates for any packages that have them
[14:52] <wizardslovak> thank you
[14:53] <wizardslovak> gotta love kubuntu
[14:53] <BluesKaj> katie , is the widget networking icon situated in the panel ?
[14:53] <Dragnslcr> Heh, no problem
[14:54] <wizardslovak> when i did upgrde from 8.04 to 9.04 my wireless didnt work , however when i nstalled fresh copy of 9.04 everything works perfectly
[14:55] <katie> BluesKaj: I think so, there's a networking thing there--
[14:55] <MarshWiggle_> hello people. How do i check what version of KDE I have? and how can i upgrade to the very latest kde?
[14:56] <dx> wizardslovak: wow
[14:56] <dx> that sounds horrible
[14:56] <wizardslovak> well not really i had only 2 files to back up lol
[14:56] <BluesKaj> katie , so did you try to configure your connection in Network Management ?
[14:56] <VistaKiller> i have many problems with sound
[14:56] <VistaKiller> fresh install in kubuntu jaunty
[14:56] <dx> kaddi:  heh. how would i go about mounting a device
[14:56] <dx> where all i see is bus 001
[14:57] <VistaKiller> the half programmes dont play at all
[14:57] <dx> device 0421
[14:57] <dx> device 042*
[14:57] <VistaKiller> the solution was to install pulseaudio
[14:57] <katie> BluesKaj: it doesn't even have the "wireless" tab enabled, maybe because when I do an iwconfig, wlan0 doesn't show up
[14:57] <VistaKiller> why pulse is not default?
[14:57] <wizardslovak> try install wicd
[14:57] <katie> BluesKaj: maybe I have to do something to get Jaunty to see my wireless card..
[14:57] <dx> katie:  yeah, something..
[14:57] <dx> im sure something would fix it all
[14:58] <BluesKaj> katie , right ...I had the same problem , but in your case I think a new driver may be in order , perhaps if you do a search using you cards make & model in adept ?
[14:58] <oobe> katie, sounds to me like you dont have the drivers installed
[14:58] <kaddi> dx how are the devices called, eg if i enter my sony-usbstick it showas up as: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 054c:008b Sony Corp. Micro Vault 64M Mass Storage
[14:59] <kaddi> on lsusb
[14:59] <dx> kaddi:  yeah, something liken that
[14:59] <dx> im on a different computer so i cant paste that for you
[14:59] <wizardslovak> funny think i just checked all command in shell and i see those which i used in 8.04
[14:59] <dx> should have stuck to 9 :(
[14:59] <dx> 8.04 ;(
[14:59] <Gustavo> hi ppl
[14:59] <dx> kaddi:  how do you mount it?
[15:00] <katie> do I just follow an old ubuntu how-to on installing drivers, assuming it works for Jaunty as well?
[15:00] <Gustavo> I installed a new machine with kubuntu 9, I configured nvidia to twinview, but it is considering my dual screen as one screen, pretty wide maximized windows! lol, how to change it to be dual screen? whould it be xinerama?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> katie, did you see my post above about adept ?
[15:00] <dx> katie:  does your wireless card showup on lspci -k ?
[15:01] <katie> dx: yes
[15:01] <krash> Does anyone know why my sound would work in dragonplayer but not vlc?
[15:01] <Dragnslcr> MarshWiggle_- open a KDE program and go to Help -> About KDE
[15:02] <dx> katie:  yeah, but what modules are loaded ?
[15:02] <MarshWiggle_> Dragnslcr: thanks. i guess i have the latest version - there goes my bug fix theory
[15:02] <katie> BluesKaj: dx: what do you mean?
[15:02] <Dragnslcr> MarshWiggle_- 4.2.2 is the latest
[15:03] <dx> does it have anything behind "kernel driver in use:"
[15:03] <Kris> helloo.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> katie, do a search using your card's make & model in adept ?
[15:03] <MarshWiggle_> my kde just doesn't understand how to detect my monitor correctly
[15:03] <dx> 3>
[15:04] <katie> BluesKaj: I'm trying to figure out if I have adept (:
[15:04] <katie> I have KPackageKit...
[15:05] <kaddi> dx you need to find out where the stick is located. (in my case it's /dev/sdc ) then you could try mount /dev/sdc
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Kpackagekit ...gawd I hate that thing
[15:05] <BluesKaj> katie , install adept with apt-get
[15:06] <dx> kaddi:  oh right- thanks :)
[15:07] <kaddi> dx I had those problems in the beginning as well, in my case formatting the stick under jaunty solved the problem. after that it did show up in dolphin again.
[15:07] <kaddi> but if all your sticks have that problem it might have other origins
[15:08] <dx> hold on  a second... wth is this applet doing to my mouse3
[15:08] <dx> pointer is locked in the gnome applet
[15:08] <dx> apparently this applet does just this. locks your pointer
[15:08] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj- except that KDE4's Adept is even worse than KPackageKit
[15:09] <kaddi> dx what applet?
[15:09]  * genii continues chugging along on 3.5.10
[15:09] <Dragnslcr> genii- okay, okay, we'll get off your lawn
[15:09] <katie> blueskaj: everything it comes up with is already installed
[15:09] <dx> kaddi: mouselocker
[15:09] <dx> called that
[15:10] <dx> oh wait
[15:10] <dx> i clciked the mouse
[15:10] <dx> seems to have sol vedc it
[15:10]  * genii slides Dragnslcr a coffee
[15:10] <kaddi> dx ok :D
[15:14] <dx> 8301-17938_105-10046064-1
[15:14] <dx> there is something seriously wrong with the linux past3e buffers
[15:15] <red__> hai my i joint?
[15:15] <dx> http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10046064-1.html
[15:17] <dx> that link shows you the smallest pc
[15:17] <dx> disregard that
[15:17] <dx> anyway, does anybody use ssh keys to login remotely?
[15:17] <wizardslovak> lol i use ssh
[15:17] <wizardslovak> btw i cannot find grub settings
[15:18] <Freyr> when i'm using virtual box my window become transparent and i cant see almost nothing until i disable the effects setings. do you think that's a problem related to kde ?
[15:18] <wizardslovak> i am in system settings but i dont see it here
[15:18] <robin0800> wizardslovak: menu.list
[15:19] <yoshiy> /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:19] <Freyr> i'm using jaunty
[15:20] <wizardslovak> ok i got the    list
[15:20] <wizardslovak> i want to make default xp
[15:20] <Aranel> do anyone know how can I scrobble with Amarok2? It doesnt work.
[15:23] <yoshiy> @wizard put the windows entry above the linux entrys and make sure that you have this line "default       0"
[15:24] <wizardslovak> where should i put line?
[15:24] <yoshiy> it should be there by default
[15:26] <wizardslovak> no its not there
[15:28] <yoshiy> my menu.lst looks like this: http://nopaste.com/p/ac93sErA4
[15:29] <wizardslovak> oo i see
[15:29] <wizardslovak> but i dont have write permissions to my file
[15:29] <wizardslovak> lol
[15:30] <yoshiy> enter this line in your terminal: "sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:30] <yoshiy> so u can open it with root permissions
[15:31] <wizardslovak> so i will just copy xp above kubuntu
[15:31] <yoshiy> yup, thats what i did :)
[15:32] <yoshiy> and i put the timeout to 3... i dont like when it takes ages too boot ;)
[15:32] <wizardslovak> ok let me try now
[15:32] <wizardslovak> brb
[15:32] <genii> yoshiy: Do not recommend to use "sudo" to run graphical applications.
[15:32] <genii> !kdesudo
[15:33] <dinnrinn> hi all
[15:33] <yoshiy> ah ok i am pretty new to linux :P
[15:33] <eagles0513875> anyone a wubi expert or gotten wubi to work on vista 64bit
[15:34] <yoshiy> i dont even know alot of the basic things ^^
[15:34] <genii> yoshiy: Thats OK, we all need to learn in some way :)
[15:34] <eagles0513875> yoshiy: me i have learned alot about linux from trial and error breaking installs and what not
[15:34] <genii> eagles0513875: I think therfe is a #wubi channel
[15:36] <eagles0513875> genii: i tried takes me to a channel where im the op
[15:36] <dx> kaddi:  why is there no easy way to find out where this usb device is at
[15:36] <eagles0513875> dx: fdisk -l
[15:37] <eagles0513875> dx: that should list all devices including usb
[15:38] <dx> oh jhmm
[15:38] <dx> thanks
[15:38] <dx> well that lists the partitions not the devices
[15:38] <dx> not possible device
[15:40] <eagles0513875> dx: hold on a sec
[15:41] <dx> i dislike wasting your time
[15:41] <dx> anybodys time, really. ;(
[15:41] <eagles0513875> dx: normally usbs show up as sdb
[15:42] <dx> hm
[15:42] <eagles0513875> dx: look under media it could also be listed under there
[15:42] <dx> okay
[15:42] <eagles0513875> cd /media/ dx
[15:42] <dx> oh i see it
[15:42] <wimo> hello, i have a touble with my DVD. My dvd detect blank CD-R but not DVD-R
[15:43] <robin0800> dx lsusp
[15:43] <eagles0513875> dx: :)
[15:43] <eagles0513875> robin0800: that doesnt work lsusb only lists usb devices on the system bus
[15:44] <eagles0513875> dx: do you need the mount command
[15:44] <robin0800> eagles0513875: mine does hubs as well
[15:44] <eagles0513875> robin0800: interesting
[15:44] <eagles0513875> never knew that thought that was just for local usb devices
[15:46] <robin0800> eagles0513875: lspci is like that in terms of USB
[15:47] <eagles0513875> O_O
[15:47] <eagles0513875> lspci lists all pci divices like sound video processor etc
[15:48] <dx> http://pastie.org/private/rnimqeydrzuo0eediqqwa
[15:48] <dx> that is what i seed when i do fdisk -l
[15:48] <dx> ther first pÃarts make sense
[15:48] <robin0800> and usb on the bus
[15:48] <dx> but what the heckk are the other parts
[15:48] <dx> the last part
[15:48] <dx> there is something there claiming to be windows
[15:49] <eagles0513875> dx: you duel booting
[15:49] <dx> i would love to remove that
[15:49] <eagles0513875> dx: also try fdisk -lh
[15:49] <eagles0513875> h should make it human redable
[15:49] <dx> eagles0513875:  well, not essentially. i thought i removed the windo crap
[15:49] <eagles0513875> language dx
[15:49] <dx> yeah sure
[15:49] <dx> fdisk -lh is a bad command
[15:49] <eagles0513875> dx: you had duel boot im guessing and want to get rid of the windows partition right
[15:50] <eagles0513875> dx: let me check something
[15:50] <eagles0513875> im drawing a blank on commands and its upsetting me
[15:51] <eagles0513875> !partition | dx
[15:51] <eagles0513875> you can either use fdisk or one of those programs mentioned to reformat the windows partition
[15:51] <cinex> u could always use mkfs too
[15:53] <eagles0513875> that too
[15:55] <genii> eagles0513875: Darn. I'm pretty sure they do have a chan somewhere on freenode
[15:55] <eagles0513875> genii: im posting on the mailing list
[15:55] <eagles0513875> genii: someone on list said its a common issue on vista
[15:56] <genii> eagles0513875: Hopefully there's some fix or workaround
[15:59] <eagles0513875> genii: ill keep you posted
[15:59] <eagles0513875> check offtopic you got a suprise waiting for you
[15:59] <dx> hm
[16:02] <dx> Disk /dev/sdb: 3965 MB, 3965190144 bytes
[16:02] <dx> done
[16:02] <dx> owait'
[16:03] <dx> sdb is my sdhc stick     :(
[16:03] <dx> stupid me
[16:04] <dx> heh- sorry eagles0513875
[16:04] <eagles0513875> its ok
[16:04] <eagles0513875> dx: normally hard drives are sda
[16:04] <eagles0513875> and dx do you need the mount command
[16:04] <dx> no
[16:04] <eagles0513875> ok
[16:04] <dx> not on dw
[16:05] <dx> debian
[16:05] <eagles0513875> O_O
[16:05] <dx> only on jaunty ubuntu
[16:05] <eagles0513875> not true
[16:05] <andrey_> hi
[16:05] <dx> it mounts auto here
[16:05] <eagles0513875> dx: try on any distro su/sudo depending on what your on /dev/sdb#
[16:05] <eagles0513875> dx: what distro
[16:05] <eagles0513875> !hi | andrey_
[16:05] <andrey_> Есть русские?))
[16:06] <eagles0513875> !ru | andrey_
[16:06] <eagles0513875> hey ocs :)
[16:06] <ocs> hi eagles0513875:)
[16:08] <andrey_> Where is configfiles NET?
[16:08] <kevin_> anyone know why i can watch video online but have no sound?? i have sound everywhere else on my system except firefox
[16:09] <alakoo> everywhere? I had no sound with firefox and I created a configuration file..
[16:09] <alakoo> but if you have music players working for example it's not the case
[16:10] <kevin_> i mean in amarok and system sounds ect
[16:10] <eagles0513875> i have sound all over
[16:10] <kevin_> i have sound in all apps and system sounds but no sound in FF
[16:11] <kevin_> could it be a plugin?
[16:11] <kevin_> i have 64bit 9.04
[16:11] <alakoo> I suggest you start by installing the gstreamer-plugins for mpegs
[16:11] <alakoo> via synaptic or such
[16:12] <kevin_> apt-get install gstreamer?
[16:12] <alakoo> no. it's not a single package
[16:12] <alakoo> do  you have synaptic?
[16:13] <kevin_> i have kpackagekit
[16:14] <robin0800> kevin_: put gstreamer in the search field
[16:14] <BluesKaj> kevin_, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html
[16:14] <alakoo> well if you have it, start by searching with keywords such as "gstreamer" ,"plugin" or "mpeg"
[16:15] <eagles0513875> kevin_: im on 64bit jaunty and everything sound wise works outa box for me
[16:16] <kevin_> ok i put in gstreamer what do i need to select
[16:17] <Kris> Hullo everyone.
[16:17] <alakoo> kevin_:  install a package "libmpeg3-1"
[16:18] <alakoo> It's not gstream but it could work
[16:18] <eagles0513875> alakoo: if you are gonna have him install codecs use kubuntu-restricted-extras it has them all and browser stuff like flash java etc
[16:20] <alakoo> eagles0513875: Perhaps you'd be better off helping him/her instead of telling me how to help
[16:20] <alakoo> But thanks for the tip, anyway
[16:20] <eagles0513875> no need to get all defensive bro
[16:21] <kevin_> i installed gstreamer-ffmpeg and libmpeg and neither have solved it
[16:22] <kevin_> the kubuntu-restricted-extras package will not install it automatically deselects itself
[16:22] <alakoo> eagles0513875: No problem, but please tell Kevin what to do. He's problem is not solved by adressing me.
[16:23] <VistaKiller> kelvin i have the same problem
[16:23] <VistaKiller> with flash or video .mov .avi?
[16:23] <kevin_> yes
[16:24] <VistaKiller> flash?
[16:24] <alakoo> kevin_: VistaKiller apparently the package mentioned by eagles is the one you need
[16:24] <kevin_> i have installed flash via kpackagekit
[16:24] <alakoo> search for "kubuntu-restricted-extras"
[16:24] <VistaKiller> look i have many problems general with sound in kuuntu
[16:24] <eagles0513875> kubuntu-restricted-extras kevin_ and VistaKiller
[16:24] <kevin_> when i select that package and click apply it automatically deselects itself
[16:24] <VistaKiller> i solved the problem when i install pulseaudio
[16:25] <eagles0513875> kevin_: open up command line and type this sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:25] <eagles0513875> VistaKiller: i kinda have the same issue with my sound card i end up using pulse audio as the default
[16:25] <VistaKiller> yes i have use and gstreamer-properties and for there i use pulse in all the bar
[16:25] <VistaKiller> and now all the programmes have sound
[16:26] <BluesKaj> strange that pulseaudio is installed by default
[16:26] <BluesKaj> not
[16:26] <eagles0513875> VistaKiller: i just go under multimedia and change it from there
[16:26] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: it was for me on a clean install
[16:26] <eagles0513875> VistaKiller: did you upgrade from intrepid to jaunty
[16:26] <VistaKiller> yes why is not installed default?
[16:26] <VistaKiller> no i have one system from feisty
[16:26] <VistaKiller> with 4 upgrades
[16:26] <Freyr> can anyone tell me how can i put playlists on ipod using amarok 2?
[16:26] <eagles0513875> VistaKiller: interesting
[16:26] <VistaKiller> i do upgrade in jaunty with no problem
[16:27] <eagles0513875> VistaKiller: thing is somethings like knetworkmanager and adept are no longer the defaults
[16:27] <VistaKiller> i say to do a clean install to pass to 64 and ext3
[16:27] <VistaKiller> ext4*
[16:27] <VistaKiller> and i have these problems with sound
[16:27] <alakoo> Freyr: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[16:27] <BluesKaj> ok, a clean install replaces OSS with pulseaudio , I guess an upgrade doesn't
[16:27] <eagles0513875> ext4 i would wait a while since there is still alot missing
[16:28] <VistaKiller> is very fast the boot time
[16:28] <GodHand> hi guys, just a quick question, does kubuntu and ubuntu really only differ in the gnome/kde thing?
[16:28] <cinex> whats missing from ext4 ?
[16:28] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: well ih ave issues with pulse not liking my sound card i wanna use my digital channel i cant the analog crashes and im stuck on pulse
[16:28] <cinex> write what manually ?
[16:28] <eagles0513875> i heard ext4 was missing journaling still
[16:28] <cinex> GodHand: ye
[16:28] <VistaKiller> i think ubuntu is more out of the box dist
[16:28] <eagles0513875> VistaKiller: for me its kubuntu that is rather outa the box for me
[16:29] <Freyr> alakoo: amarok 2
[16:29] <GodHand> is it possible to install kde over my ubuntu?
[16:29] <Freyr> alakoo: i know in amarok 1.4
[16:29] <cinex> GodHand: yes
[16:29] <GodHand> any risks?
[16:29] <cinex> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <cinex> perhaps
[16:29] <cinex> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[16:29] <cinex> possibly
[16:29] <cinex> then u can switch between the two
[16:30] <GodHand> cinex, thanks alot.
[16:30] <eagles0513875> i have gnome xfce and kde installed for testing purposes
[16:30] <cinex> GodHand: np
[16:30] <kevin_> hmm i just saw kubuntu-restricted-extras install pulse audio.. you may be on to something.. why isn't that already installed by default
[16:30] <alakoo> shouldn't godhand switch from gdm to kdm as well?
[16:30] <cinex> GodHand: removing them is much much much more difficult
[16:30] <alakoo> or is kdm there as default
[16:30] <eagles0513875> alakoo: you get to choose which desktop manager you want to use
[16:30] <GodHand> whats kdm?
[16:30] <cinex> the login screen
[16:30] <genii> !info kdm
[16:30] <cinex> gdm is the gnome login screen
[16:31] <alakoo> ok
[16:32] <GodHand> basically im doing it all so i can have a transparent desktop so i can use different wallpapers on each side of my cube (using compiz ofc) supposably this is alot easier with kde, but is it worth it?
[16:32] <eagles0513875> i think it is
[16:32] <eagles0513875> i love the effects on kde
[16:33] <Freyr> can i replace amarok 2 with amarok 1.4
[16:33] <Freyr> ?
[16:33] <cinex> Freyr: u could unisntall and then isntall/compile it manually
[16:33] <cinex> dunno if it would work thuogh
[16:33] <cinex> amarok2 is awful thoguh
[16:34] <kevin_> VistaKiller: did you have to set anything up after you installed pulse aduio?
[16:34] <VistaKiller> yes
[16:34] <VistaKiller> first i give this with sudo
[16:35] <VistaKiller>    	 	 	 	 	 	    sudo asoundconf set-pulseaudio
[16:35] <GodHand> i think its done ima restart ^.^ thanks alot guys
[16:35] <kevin_> i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and that installed pulse audio now i atleast get a tiny crackle when i play a video.. lol.
[16:35] <VistaKiller> and after i change system settings to pulse audio all the devices
[16:37] <kevin_> ok i ran sudo asoundconf set-pulseaudio then what?
[16:37] <White_Pelican> is there an application in kde 4 similar to kweather?
[16:37] <kevin_> white_pelican: there are several weather plasmoids
[16:38] <White_Pelican> define several and where do I find them?
[16:39] <White_Pelican> All i find is lcd weather station
[16:39] <kevin_> there is one installed by default called lcd weather station and there are about 15 on kde-look.org under plasmoids
[16:40] <White_Pelican> oh ok, I will go look
[16:43] <kevin_> lol ok after all installation.. still all of my audio works except video.. i had to default back to my intel hd audio device instead of pulse though because with pulse i had no audio
[16:43] <kevin_> any other ideas to get aduio out of my video?
[16:44] <kevin_> also when i am in the device setup i can select everything but video.. it is greyed out...??
[16:47] <GodHand> wow guys
[16:48] <GodHand> kde is so much more...
[16:48] <VistaKiller> wats dat?
[16:48] <GodHand> um
[16:48] <GodHand> idk
[16:48] <GodHand> amazing
[16:48] <kevin_> aha!!! i got it! i dont know how but it works now thanks for everyones help
[16:49] <kevin_> now the only other issue i have is.. i have installed emerald and i cant figure out how to use it instead of kwin.. i tried emerald --replace but my decorations never changed
[16:50] <vistakiller> kevin you must put it in compiz config settings manager
[16:50] <vistakiller> there is an option there to put the command
[16:50] <vistakiller> emerald --replace
[16:51] <kevin_> do i need to install something else.. the only thing i have installed other than default are firefox and emerald
[16:52] <kevin_> i searched for ccsm but i dont have it do i need to install it?
[16:52] <vistakiller> υεσ
[16:52] <vistakiller> yes sorry
[16:53] <kevin_> sudo apt-get install ccsm?
[16:54] <vistakiller> yes i think
[16:54] <Pici> kevin_: The package name is compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:54] <kevin_> thanks pici
[16:56] <yoshiy> hi, i upgraded from 8.04 to 9.04... i am missing the settings for my partitions and stuff, do you know where i can find that?
[16:56] <afeijo> how can I open an .iso file as a cd drive?
[16:58] <wtl> is there a way to have kde 4 window decorations on compiz?
[16:58] <afeijo> how can I grant sudo access to another user?
[16:59] <Pici> afeijo: Add them to the admin group
[16:59] <afeijo> Pici: addgroup?
[16:59] <kevin_> vistakiller i installed ccsm and put in emerald --replace under window decoration and restarted and still i see oxygen
[16:59] <Pici> afeijo: no. adduser username admin
[17:00] <afeijo> Pici: I used sudo addgroup feijo admin and it worked
[17:00] <Pici> afeijo: er, yeah, that works.
[17:00] <afeijo> :)
[17:01] <afeijo> and how to adjust a dual screen machine that when you mazimize a window, it use both screens instead the current one?
[17:01] <kevin_> do i need to enable compiz or something.. i have desktop effects enabled in desktop settings.
[17:02] <afeijo> kevin_: I think so, I use compiz here
[17:03] <wtl> afeijo, does it use the gtk window decorator?
[17:03] <kevin_> ok i have installed 64bit and emerald and ccsm how do i enable compiz?
[17:03] <cinex> how do I get my widgets to be transparent?
[17:04] <afeijo> wtl: regarding my question? no
[17:04] <caos> hola!
[17:04] <vistakiller> you must restart it
[17:04] <kevin_> ?
[17:04] <vistakiller> xserver
[17:04] <kevin_> i restarted my whole machine..
[17:05] <yoshiy> how can i check if a partition has the attribute "noexec" ?
[17:05] <tyfon> type mount
[17:05] <tyfon> you can see the options used when mounting there :)
[17:06] <yoshiy> ah ok thanks :)
[17:06] <vistakiller> kevin go to settings manater for compiz
[17:06] <vistakiller> and from there to windows decoration
[17:06] <kevin_> ok
[17:06] <vistakiller> and there to command place the emerald --replace
[17:07] <kevin_> ok thats what i did
[17:07] <kevin_> is there something else i need to do?
[17:07] <vistakiller> ok give alt+f2 and then emerald --replace
[17:07] <vistakiller> what happen now?
[17:07] <kevin_> nothing..
[17:08] <vistakiller> run emerald and sellect one theme
[17:08] <afeijo> I used novidia-settings to configure a dual screen station, but when I maximize a window it use both screens. How to fix that?
[17:08] <vistakiller> double click on it
[17:08] <kevin_> still nothing..
[17:08] <vistakiller> if this not work i have and something new :p
[17:08] <vistakiller> try to install fusion-icon
[17:09] <vistakiller> run it
[17:09] <kevin_> doesn't that cause issues?
[17:09] <vistakiller> and from there select emerald for window decoration
[17:09] <vistakiller> nah
[17:09] <vistakiller> you run linux m8 not windows :P
[17:10] <kevin_> where is it?
[17:10] <vistakiller> you must install it
[17:10] <kevin_> lol i installed fusion icon but i cant find it
[17:11] <kevin_> aha!
[17:12] <kevin_> lol ok emerald was already selected still didnt change the window lol.. i do have the blue glow that my emerald theme provides but still oxygen decor
[17:12] <kevin_> lol what am i doing wrong?
[17:13] <afeijo> I used novidia-settings to configure a dual screen station, but when I maximize a window it use both screens. How to fix that?
[17:13] <yoshiy> sorry for interupting.. is there any other way to test an edited fstab than rebooting?
[17:13] <afeijo> yoshiy: use mount cmd
[17:13] <yoshiy> ok thanks
[17:14] <afeijo> yoshiy: and umount to remove
[17:17] <kevin_> anyone else having issues with emerald and?
[17:18] <kevin_> 9.04
[17:18] <vistakiller> try ti change it to kwin and then again to emerald
[17:18] <kevin_> still nothing
[17:19] <kevin_> like i said though i do get the glow i am supposed to have with a few different themes but not the actual decor
[17:21] <kevin_> i got it! i disabled desktop effects and then selected compiz from the fusion icon
[17:21] <kevin_> !! awesome!
[17:21] <yoshiy> thanks alot to the people who helped me with the mount cmd, i finally got a shellscript working ^^
[17:21] <kevin_> thank you vistakiller for all the help!
[17:24] <navidpaya> Hi. I got a problem with my SIP phone. I'm using twinkle and it works just fine except for the fact that no one hears my voice. I guess it has sth to do with my alsa configuration. What do you suggest I do to troubleshot that?
[17:29] <afeijo> how can I install skype?
[17:36] <nameiner_> afeijo: just go to the skype website and download the deb file and install it
[17:36] <afeijo> nameiner_: I found out how to use apt-get by updating the lists file :)
[17:38] <nameiner_> afeijo: good, if you want more stuff to install have a look at medibuntu.org, they have a repository that includes skype and other nice stuff
[17:39] <afeijo> nameiner_: thanks
[17:40] <nameiner_> afeijo: you're welcome
[17:40] <baker> hi all
[17:40] <baker> what best system in linux
[17:41] <gimox> just look for a geforce
[17:41] <gimox> anything else
[17:41] <baker> ubuntu or kubuntu
[17:42] <baker> hello anybody there
[17:42] <xjjk> baker: you're in the wrong channel to ask
[17:42] <afeijo> I still cant find how to configure nvidia to use dual screen but separated, it is maximizing window to both screens
[17:42] <baker> sorry
[17:42] <xjjk> baker: a majority of everyone in here will say kubuntu
[17:42] <afeijo> my machine do not do that, the new one does, I checked my configs and it appear to be the same
[17:42] <baker> & what server i must connect
[17:43] <xjjk> baker: what do you want to do? you probably want to find a specific communty for that, and ask them
[17:43] <baker> i wanna ask about kubuntu is strong system
[17:43] <xjjk> what does "strong" mean
[17:43] <xjjk> baker: if you've the time, it's best just to try it and see what you like
[17:43] <baker> sorry for that
[17:44] <baker> good
[17:44] <baker> kubuntu amd 64
[17:44] <xjjk> both Ubuntu and Kubuntu are available on LiveCDs and can be tried out without installing
[17:44] <xjjk> baker: there are a lot of caveats when using AMD64, just so you're aware
[17:44] <baker> i allready installed in my laptop
[17:44] <xjjk> if you visit webpages that use Macromedia Flash, Flash on AMD64 is a headache
[17:44] <xjjk> okay
[17:45] <baker> i'm new user in this system (kubuntu) i just ask if my system works fine or not
[17:46] <kbmaniac> Struggling with the fglrx driver constantly rebooting when desktop effects enabled - any ideas ?
[17:46] <baker> my firewall is ufw
[17:46] <xjjk> baker: sorry, I'm not sure what answer you're looking for... what does "fine" mean
[17:46] <xjjk> baker: you were able to get your machine online and connect to IRC
[17:46] <xjjk> seems fine enough
[17:46] <baker> u mean xchat
[17:47] <xjjk> you're using xchat under Kubuntu?
[17:47] <baker> yes
[17:47] <firevai> hi everyone
[17:47] <baker> is that wrong
[17:47] <xjjk> no
[17:47] <robin0800> baker: xchat is an irc cliant
[17:47] <ankan_> Hey people :)
[17:47] <xjjk> if it works i
[17:47] <baker> ohh ic
[17:47] <xjjk> it's not "wrong"
[17:47] <firevai> i'm having probs burning an iso image.. its an os disk, but it wont boot... do i need to make it bootable somehow?
[17:47] <firevai> i used k3b
[17:48] <baker> it's work with me but when i ask something no one answer me
[17:48] <robin0800> baker: quassel is the default now
[17:48] <firevai> and what can i use to burn .bin and .que files?
[17:48] <xjjk> firevai: k3b should be able to burn bin/cue, last I checked
[17:48] <firevai> oh ok
[17:48] <xjjk> firevai: AFAIK you don't need to make anything bootable...
[17:48] <baker> thx for ur help
[17:48] <xjjk> you burn it as an ISO image and that's it
[17:48] <firevai> ok guess the image is bad
[17:48] <firevai> live cd boots fine
[17:49] <xjjk> firevai: possibly... verify the sha1 or md5
[17:49] <firevai> ok one last thing.. i'm using kde 4 and stuff wont minimize to my taskbar.. think i goofed something
[17:49] <ankan_> Problem: Why does system go back to 1600x1200 resolution after installing ATI radeon drivers and restart/reboot? When logging in and then doing log out it goes back to what it should be.. and all over again after reboot/restart.
[17:49] <baker> hello everyone
[17:49] <firevai> ankan_: its cuz ati and linux dont play nice together.. check your xorg.conf settings
[17:49] <firevai> lo baker
[17:50] <baker> i wanna ask something
[17:50] <firevai> baker: ask away
[17:51] <ejortegau> hi: i have  a php page that gets variables via GET method. I am accessing them with $_GET['varname'], but I just realized another developer here is accessing them with $varname. I just checked with phpinfo() and register globals are off. So, why can she access them that way?
[17:52] <ankan_> firevai: I figure so.. At install of 9.04 I had to go into there and put driver to VESA since everything was non functioning by install default. And from there installed ATI drivers. Xorg pretty much only have 3 sections where driver is "configured video device" etc.
[17:52] <firevai> sorry ejortegau.. thats above me
[17:52] <xjjk> ejortegau: you checked php_info() within the same script?
[17:52] <firevai> ankan_: yes, but you need to set your display resolutions i think in xorg.conf..
[17:52] <xjjk> register globals may be set somewhere within the script, it doesn't necessarily need to enabled globally
[17:52] <mr_clark> Trying to upgrade to 9.04 on my laptop but the upgrade manage tells me that there is no AMD fglrx graphics driver available. Is there a way around this?
[17:53] <ejortegau> xjjk: I did
[17:53] <xjjk> ejortegau: you sure they didn't do something like $blah = $_GET['blah']?
[17:53] <robin0800> mr_clark: probably not
[17:53] <firevai> isnt fglrx a module?
[17:53] <xjjk> ejortegau: also, there's some function... import_* something or other
[17:54] <ejortegau> it's on the first lines of code, no variable declarations there...
[17:54] <xjjk> ejortegau: no includes/etc before that?
[17:54] <ankan_> firevai: ah. I thought that was something to do that they started using Krandr (xrandr?) and let that util work out the resolution and thus handle if one have more than 1 monitor by default? But that isn't working well with ATI drivers he he?
[17:54] <ejortegau> xjjk: there is one... do you think that might be setting them?
[17:54] <robin0800> mr_clark: you can try it but it may not work
[17:54] <xjjk> ejortegau: yes
[17:54] <xjjk> ejortegau: also, does said code even work
[17:54] <ejortegau> xjjk: indeed it does
[17:54] <xjjk> ejortegau: PHP will return a "" or null (I don't remember) for nonexistent variables
[17:54] <mr_clark> That sucks. Guess I won't bother for now.
[17:55] <xjjk> which doesn't prevent code from working
[17:55] <xjjk> ugh, PHP is such a crap language
[17:55] <xjjk> ejortegau: you're giving me flashback nightmares
[17:55] <ejortegau> xjjk: yeah, include file set the variable
[17:55] <ejortegau> xjjk: thanks
[17:55] <xjjk> ejortegau: NP
[17:56] <robin0800> mr_clark: you can try to make the radeon driver work better look in xorg log for messages
[17:57] <mr_clark> robin0800: Kind of need my laptop right now to work properly as my main system croaked (NEVER BUY SEAGATE HARD DRIVES!)
[17:57] <mr_clark> I'll take a look in a week or so.
[17:58] <ankan_> Kinda confusing to have first KDE 4.x resolution systemsetting, then the ati tool and then the Krandr ^^ Somehow it feels like the Kubuntu team cramed the stuff in and hope for the best.. hmm..
[17:58] <xjjk> ankan_: systemsettings and krandr are the same, aren't they?
[18:00] <ejortegau> BTW, sorry all, I accidentally asked on this channel, not on PHP channel... wrog tab :-/
[18:01] <xjjk> ejortegau: haha, NP
[18:03] <ankan_> ok.. starting krandrtray was a very bad move.. flickering.. couldnt access desktop or ctrl alt backspace restart x etc.. scary... xjjk hmm might be..
[18:07] <ankan_> never again an ATI card for my part.. ATI blown it.. had a lot of patience though..
[18:09] <robin0800> ankan_: not a lot of choice here this is a laptop
[18:09] <ankan_> robin0800: =/
[18:10] <robin0800> ankan_: is that same here?
[18:11] <ankan_> robin0800: same with what? problems?
[18:20] <blackflag> Hello all :) Im having problems mounting nfs4 from 9.04 to 8.04:
[18:20] <blackflag> mount -t nfs4 10.100.100.51:/ /mnt/desktop/
[18:20] <blackflag> mount.nfs4: Operation not permitted
[18:20] <blackflag> can someone help?
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[18:22] <oobe> blackflag, did you export -a
[18:26] <GodHand> Hey can some one guide me on making my background transparent so i can use compiz's wallpaper plugin?
[18:26] <rob__> hello!  I need some help with WIFI networking
[18:26] <blackflag> yes / i did also a nfs-kernel restart. I see it with showmount -e 10.100.100.51. the export is there. But on clients site Im not able to mount
[18:29] <rob__> I can open wifi hotspots but can connect but not surf internet from my home WEP secured network
[18:29] <oobe> try sudo mount or adding the mount point to your /etc/fstab on the client
[18:30] <rob__> can anyone help me with this?
[18:30] <oobe> rob__, put your routers ip in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:31] <rob__> will try now...
[18:32] <oobe> rob__, you need to do it like this nameserver 192.168.1.1
[18:32] <oobe> sorry forgot to mention that
[18:32] <rob__> oobe:  where in that file?
[18:33] <oobe> network manager should do it automatically
[18:33] <oobe> /etc/resolv.conf
[18:33] <rob__> its in there already
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> you can also access therouter and add the dns servers the router knows in your own resolv.conf
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> or add some public dns servers
[18:34] <oobe> yeah i use opendns
[18:34] <oobe> add these
[18:34] <oobe> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[18:34] <oobe> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[18:34] <oobe> there from open dns
[18:34] <rob__> with open networks I can connect and surf.  with WEP netowrks (like my home) I can connect (per Kwifi manger) but not surf
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> can you ping those IPs?
[18:35] <rob__> I cannot ping my own router
[18:35] <oobe> well then
[18:35] <oobe> its a moot point
[18:35] <rob__> sorry.. I CAN ping my own router
[18:35] <oobe> most likely you need to configure the wireless device properly
[18:35] <oobe> oh good
[18:35] <rob__> but not anything OUTSIDE
[18:36] <oobe> then its a namserver issue
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> rob__: then i would reboot the router
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> can you ping externally by ip?
[18:36] <rob__> ok.  it is a 2wire DSL modem/router
[18:36] <rob__> AP:  No!  Cannot ping outside via wifi
[18:37] <oobe> can you ping your isp's namservers
[18:37] <rob__> if I am on a WEP secured network
[18:38] <rob__> checking
[18:39] <rob__> yes!  I can ping my sites nameserver
[18:40] <oobe> then put those nameservers in resolv.conf
[18:41] <rob__> oddly enuf I cannot ping my ISP
[18:41] <oobe> thats not to odd
[18:42] <blackflag> !nfs
[18:43] <rob__> so I replace the nameserver in resolv.conf with the NameServer IP of my ISP?
[18:43] <rob__> currently the NS in resolv.conf is my router
[18:43] <oobe> yep
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> can you run nslookup <name>
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> can you run traceroute <ip>
[18:44] <oobe> ask him to do nslookup google.com he will understand that
[18:45] <rob__> will I have to do that for any other WEP secured network I access?
[18:45] <oobe> Network Manager will over write your resolv.conf
[18:45] <oobe> so did it work rob__
[18:45] <rob__> AP:  I am not sure how to do those things
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> usually you'll get name servers via dhcp but if the dns servers are in the internet they will be universally accessible
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> rob__: in konsole
[18:46] <rob__> testing now
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> rob__: nslookup www.bmezine.com
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> rob__: traceroute 38.99.130.180
[18:46] <eagles0513875> any wubi experts in here
[18:47] <rob__> no.  it did not work.  If fact I can not connect to network now
[18:47] <Maxxrj> #rio
[18:47] <rob__> hold on
[18:47] <rob__> reconnected
[18:48] <rob__> still cannot surf
[18:48] <eagles0513875> rob__: is your router set to give ip's via dhcp
[18:49] <rob__> AP;  trace route is not installed
[18:50] <eagles0513875> sudo apt-get install traceroute rob__
[18:50] <rob__> Eagles:  I think so
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i'm expert in hating it
[18:50] <eagles0513875> rob__: can you check your router just to be sure
[18:50] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: hating wubi
[18:50] <ubuntu_> Hello.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: yes, its remarkably simple
[18:51] <rob__> AP:  installing now
[18:51] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i keep getting an error
[18:51] <eagles0513875> im on vista
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> rob__: if you type action and press tab you type my whole name and it will highlight too
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: thats half the issue
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: did you md5 everything you could?
[18:51] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: how do i do that
[18:51] <eagles0513875> on winblows
[18:52] <ikonia> eagles0513875: it's called "windows"
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: MD5 checking is CRITICAL
[18:52] <rob__> ActionParsnip: ok
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: garbaged download = issues
[18:52] <rob__> ActionParsnip: running trace route
[18:53] <rob__> ActionParsnip: where can I post results?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[18:54] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: dunno y i have a feeling it might have to do with me running the rc of vista sp2
[18:55] <rob__> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164355/
[18:55] <Lynoure> I'd have time for helping someone  but I guess everyone is fine :)
[18:55] <eagles0513875> Lynoure: im not
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: thats one bad aspect of wubi, it relys on windows whivh in itself can cause issues
[18:55] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: lol win 7 is gonna be a god send
[18:55] <Lynoure> eagles0513875: but I don't know anything about wubi, so you are out.
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: spend a little cash for a 2Gb USB stick and install to that, less hastle
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: hardly
[18:55] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: i have 80gb external hdd
[18:55] <eagles0513875> install kubuntu on it
[18:56] <eagles0513875> it was complaining about grub and error 15
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> rob__: ok thats good, you can traceroute to IPs
[18:56] <rob__> wait
[18:56] <rob__> I am still hardwired
[18:56] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: it will be better then vista
[18:56] <rob__> let me try via wifi
[18:57] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I am still wired.  let me try via wifi
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> eagles0513875: i think they are all garbage, and very overpriced
[18:59] <rob__> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164359/
[18:59] <eagles0513875> ActionParsnip: true
[18:59] <eagles0513875> unless more of the main stream games leave win and come to linux i wont dump it entierly
[18:59] <rob__> ActionParsnip: Not able to run Traceroute via wifi
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> rob__: try: sudo ifdown eth0
[19:01] <rob__> ActionParsnip: now cannot ping anything
[19:02] <rob__> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:02] <rob__> ActionParsnip: my wifi is eth1
[19:02] <eagles0513875> can someone tell me what they can make of this pastebin.com/m67a5e9e3
[19:02] <eagles0513875> plz and ty
[19:02] <eagles0513875> rob__: your wifi shoudl be wlan# like mine is wlan0
[19:03] <ikonia> eagles0513875: no
[19:03] <ikonia> eagles0513875: not all cards are called wifi
[19:03] <ankan_> rob__: yeah eth0 and so on is for wired etherned interface.
[19:03] <ankan_> ethernet even
[19:04] <eagles0513875> ikonia: just learned something new
[19:04] <rob__> ActionParsnip: sudo ifdown eth0
[19:04] <afeijo> oh shit
[19:04] <eagles0513875> !ohmy | afeijo\
[19:04] <rob__> ActionParsnip: ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[19:04] <afeijo> sorry
[19:04] <afeijo> my firefox3 is closing by itself, a lot. I started a new profile, maybe the old one have something wrong.  As I was configuring the new profile, firefox closed!! :(
[19:05] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I thought it wa configuerd via network settings GUI
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> rob__: it just pulls down the other network device so it can only use 1
[19:07] <rob__> ActionParsnip: u still there?
[19:07] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I get this result ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[19:08] <rob__> ActionParsnip: so what do I do now?
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> rob__: does the wireless adapter have a valid ip?
[19:09] <afeijo> who is using vmware 2?
[19:10] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I thought so.  I used Newtork Setting to allow it an automatic IP from router
[19:10] <ankan_> rob__: I had problems getting my eth0 ie. wired interface working myself where the knetworkmanager seemed to decide to work its own stuff dhcp wize. I did something and went manual on it all and I think I then issued network down and brought it up manually via terminal and since then it been working even between reboots. Really weird how it works.
[19:10] <rob__> ActionParsnip: should I use a static IP?
[19:10] <eagles0513875> rob__: are you on intrepid or jaunty
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> rob__: ifconfig <adapter name> will show ig you are getting dhcp
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> rob__: could try static ip to test
[19:12] <rob__> ActionParsnip: Using the GUI set to manual do I need to enter WEP key there too?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> rob__: not sure i use the intefaces file in /etc/network
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> rob__: just do what feels right, i cant use that gui thing
[19:14] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I switch to static IP.  tried wifi
[19:15] <rob__> ActionParsnip: no luck
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> i think you need to evaluate what you have tried and havent tried
[19:15] <rob__> ActionParsnip: tell me how to change in /etc/network and I will do that
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> rob__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12045
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> rob__: replace ethx in the post with the name of the device
[19:17] <x_link> Hi all Kubuntu-users =)
[19:17] <x_link> I need some help with a small thing.
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> sup x_link
[19:17] <x_link> I just plugged in a external monitor to my laptop, but I don't get anything on the external monitor.
[19:17] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Hihi =)
[19:17] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I cannot load that URL
[19:17] <x_link> Can somebody please help me with this?
[19:18] <x_link> Cause at work I have a laptop with Windows Vista, when I plugged in a external monitor on that laptop then it worked right away
[19:18] <rob__> ActionParsnip: I can't surf at all wired now either
[19:19] <rob__> ActionParsnip: ok.  resolved wired issue
[19:19] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Do you know how to help me maybe?=
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> rob__: http://80.87.131.193/m2919ad16
[19:19] <BCMM> i have a laptop here which is running 8.04 and would like to update to 9.04. there was a version update button available in adept, but the network cable fell out when it was updating and now the button is gone
[19:19] <BCMM> what should i do?
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> x_link: you will need to configure it as an extra display in xorg.conf
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> !dualhead | x_link
[19:20] <x_link> ActionParsnip: OKey, it that hard?
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> x_link: if you have it connected and reboot does it come up?
[19:20] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I just want to try it, I will not have it like that all the time.
[19:20] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I can try it.
[19:21] <x_link> ActionParsnip: But I can't try it right now, cause I'm sending a file to a friend.
[19:21] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Do you think it will work if I reboot my computer?
[19:21] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Maybe rebooting X is enough?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> x_link: possibly
[19:21] <rob__> ActionParsnip: ok.  found that post.  U are suggesting i modify /etc/network/interfaces and detaied in the BOLD post but make the ethx+eth1
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> yeah rob__, set your stuff there, you can also set static ip in that file too
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> rob__: heres the one from my fileserver: http://pastebin.com/f4b2dd83
[19:23] <x_link> ActionParsnip: But that's for XFree86? I use xorg.
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> x_link: i'd try the reboot
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> x_link: if you use nvidia gfx, its dead easy
[19:24] <rob__> ActionParsnip: done
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> rob__: ok now run: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:25] <x_link> ActionParsnip: I have a Intel X3100
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> x_link: this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-448897.html
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> x_link: but you'll have to look around for guides
[19:28] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Alright, thanks man.
[19:28] <rob__> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/164373/
[19:28] <x_link> ActionParsnip: Maybe I should run dpkg-reconfigure.
[19:28] <x_link> ActionParsnip: My english isn't that good =)
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> rob__: is eth1 the wird device?
[20:05] <Laeborg> anyway to get back knetworkmanager in Jaunty ?
[20:06] <riccardo> salve
[20:15] <phoenixz> Did I miss something with the new kubuntu version 9.04? I started with 7.04, always updated, used to run backports, upgraded to the first alphas of 7.10, 8.04, etc, and never did I have a problem.
[20:15] <phoenixz> Now, I upgraded 8.10 to 9.04 beta, and I saw no visual changes, but my machine got like 2 times slower, in bootup and usage, and is instable at best. X wont start anymore without complaining about config errors and requiring some 2 reboots, the GUI hangs up every so many hours, WIFI isnt working anymore (supposedly there is a network manager applet, but I dont see any applets but the basic plasma aplets, even after manually installing ALL plasma related
[20:15] <phoenixz> things in the apt repos...)...
[20:15] <phoenixz> What happened? Ubuntu always worked well, have not reinstalled for longer than I can remember, always worked with updates, all was well and now my laptop is virtually useless..
[20:15] <xjjk> phoenixz: does your machine have Intel graphics?
[20:16] <phoenixz> Oh, and the new konversation replacement, quassel.. looks nice at first, but.. konversation works and is simple.. quassel, dunno, but just works weird, takes 90% CPU lots of times (for god knows what reason)
[20:16] <xjjk> phoenixz: there's a new version of X in Jaunty, you probably have to modify your X config
[20:16] <phoenixz> Yeah, I know, Im ranting here but its just a lot of frustration of the last 4 weeks that I never before have had with Linux.. weird..
[20:16] <xjjk> OK
[20:17] <phoenixz> xjjk: yeah, intel
[20:17] <phoenixz> xjjk: I imagine, but when X complains, there is an option to create new X config.. so I do that, reboot and ... sometimes it works.. sometimes not..
[20:17] <xjjk> there have been some serious performance regressions for Intel GFX
[20:17] <xjjk> phoenixz: do you need an X config?
[20:17] <phoenixz> xjjk: and after a few reboots (or, another apt-get upgrade) the very problem is there again
[20:18] <justin__> woah it works
[20:18] <phoenixz> xjjk: I suppose.. but the thing is, I get the option to make a new x config, so I do, then I need to reboot.. and sometimes it will suddenly work, sometimes I will get back at the same error..
[20:19] <xjjk> phoenixz: odd
[20:19] <phoenixz> xjjk: in any case, a reboot later, it then finally may work.. only to fail again after the next reboot.. as if the X config is not stored or something
[20:19] <xjjk> what's the error?
[20:19] <phoenixz> xjjk: yeah.. NEVER had these kinds of problems in linux
[20:20] <phoenixz> xjjk: gotta tell you from my bad memory, but it complains about not being able to correctly probe hardware or x config invalid .. Gives me like 4 options (run ubuntu in low graphics mode, create new xconfig file, revise log and.. annother one)
[20:21] <xjjk> phoenixz: if you don't need an X config file... try just removing it
[20:21] <xjjk> (backing up of course)
[20:21] <phoenixz> xjjk: I found initially that running ubunut in low graphics mode actually made it work perfectly, dont ask why..
[20:21] <xjjk> it's not really needed for X 1.6
[20:21] <xjjk> phoenixz: bulletproof X IMHO sucks (that's what you're encountering)
[20:21] <phoenixz> xjjk: X bullet proof? whah?
[20:22] <xjjk> phoenixz: it's an Ubuntu feature to fix your X config when it's broken
[20:22] <phoenixz> xjjk: thats like X no longer needing a config file?
[20:22] <xjjk> phoenixz: no, bulletproof X is from 7.04 I think
[20:22] <phoenixz> xjjk: ah.. Well, it would be nice if the bullet proof X actually would work.. because it doesnt, AFAIK
[20:22] <xjjk> it's an old feature that's incredibly annoying
[20:24] <phoenixz> Anyway, Kubuntu 9.04 is really a disappointment I have to say.. Not to just complain, I love ubuntu, all for it, Im the "ubuntu evangelist" here at work and so but.. 8.10 was great, 9.04 didnt give anything new good stuff, only new bad stuff..
[20:24] <xjjk> phoenixz: everyone to their own... I feel the opposite
[20:25] <phoenixz> xjjk: Really, I want to feel the oposite! :) 9.04 supposedly would boot faster but it actually boots slower.. Now, my laptop is loaded, I knnow, and it always booted a bit slow, but now its like 50% worse than before..
[20:25] <xjjk> phoenixz: I hate to say this, but tried reinstalling?
[20:25] <xjjk> you may be carrying over crud from previous installs
[20:26] <phoenixz> xjjk: Contemplating it.. but that would be kind of like.. defeat :) I installed 7.04 and upgraded 3 times without a single flaw..
[20:26] <genii> phoenixz: This is why it's usually a good idea to stick with LTS versions for your main OS and only tinker with the intermediate versions, not use them exclusively
[20:26] <xjjk> that is one thing that dissappoints me about Ubuntu; online version to version upgrades don't always work right
[20:26] <phoenixz> xjjk: It should..
[20:27] <xjjk> a lot of things "should"...
[20:27] <xjjk> Debian does it great
[20:27] <xjjk> not sure why Ubuntu doesn't
[20:27] <phoenixz> xjjk: If (k)ubuntu wants to be taken seriously by mainstream, this kind of stuff has to be flawless..
[20:27] <xjjk> phoenixz: yes/no, mainstream, few upgrade version to version
[20:27] <xjjk> Fedora AFAIK it's recommended you reinstall for new versions
[20:27] <xjjk> SuSE as well
[20:28] <xjjk> and yeh, Windows too since we're on the topic
[20:28] <phoenixz> aaaannnd firefox just crashed AGAIN... Didnt do that either in 8.10.. now this happens like 5 times a day..
[20:28] <xjjk> upgraded Windows installs are always full of huge amounts of crud
[20:28] <phoenixz> xjjk: windows ALWAYS are full of garbage, installed OR upgraded.. :)
[20:29] <phoenixz> xjjk: And the entire "No reason to reinstall" is a perfect argument to get people to try it.. I should not have to reinstall for every new version..
[20:29] <phoenixz> xjjk: and it always has worked so far.. too bad..
[20:29] <xjjk> phoenixz: well, keep your /home
[20:30] <xjjk> reinstalling the rest of the system is not so bad
[20:30] <phoenixz> and quanta also got messed up, before I would forget that one..
[20:30] <xjjk> is quanta in 9.04?
[20:31] <phoenixz> xjjk: yeah.. Quanta has been there since god knows when.. its KDE3 version though still.. there is a KDE4 version in development, but god knows when that will b e out
[20:32] <xjjk> eh
[20:32] <shadowland> Anyone know what happened to the passivetex package?  It's needed to run "make pdfdocs" to build the docs in the vanilla kernel folder
[20:36] <wizardslovak> what is package name for flash player?
[20:37] <xjjk> wizardslovak: for Adobe's player, it's flashplugin-nonfree
[20:37] <xjjk> you'll need the non-free repositories enabled to see it
[20:37] <wizardslovak> oook
[20:38] <wizardslovak> ok go it
[20:38] <wizardslovak> i ment got it
[20:39] <terneki> hello
[20:39] <mackk431> maybe flashplayer :)
[20:39] <wizardslovak> my audio doesnt work
[20:39] <wizardslovak> well iam trying to watch something online but audio doesnt work
[20:39] <wizardslovak> what should i do?
[20:45] <mitchnull> hi
[20:46] <mtu> heyas. can i define (on a laptop) what power profile gets used when i plug in the A/C or disconnect it?
[20:46] <mitchnull> is there an issue with the kde4 krita package? I can't seem to find any "tools" apart from brush and gradient... I wanted to insert a simple text on a picture, but I can't find the option anywhere
[20:49] <alonea> how do I get a program to start after I have logged in? knetworkmanager is no longer loading on startup
[20:51] <eagles0513875> alonea: are you still on intrepid or did you upgrade to jaunty
[20:58] <mitchnull> ok, I found a screenshot of a working krita. It seems I'm missing the whole "left toolbar" thing
[21:00] <nadie__> hi
[21:06] <tiresias> quel logiciel il est préconisé d'utiliser pour avoir un front-end graphique pour aptitude?
[21:06] <tiresias> synaptic?
[21:14] <afeijo> The program 'firefox' received an X Window System error.
[21:14] <afeijo> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[21:14] <afeijo> The error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'.
[21:14] <afeijo> this is causing my Firefox to close several times a day
[21:14] <superwad> i'm having an odd problem since upgrading to 9.04.  i use two computers on a kvm, and it seems that whenever i switch between the two and come back to kde, my mouse won't work properly.  i usually can't give focus to windows, i can't scroll.  this also happens on a fresh boot when i haven't been toggling between computers
[21:14] <superwad> any idea what's going on?
[21:16] <astrobear> is there a listing of the default groups?
[21:16] <astrobear> e.g.: dip
[21:17] <astrobear> dialout, etc.
[21:18] <mackk431> hello where is the location on harddisc of kate or hping2?
[21:19] <mackk431> on msdos system commandos are stored in command.com how is this with linux?
[21:20] <mtu> mackk431: kate and stuff are programs of their own
[21:20] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[21:20] <mtu> most reside in /usr/bin/
[21:20] <mackk431> thank you
[21:20] <niallabrown> I see it under /usr/bin/
[21:21] <Dhraakellian> I have my /home already encrypted by Suse. would it be possible to change the passphrase with the alternate install CD and still keep my data?
[21:22] <mtu> Dhraakellian: shouldn't be a problem with cryptsetup
[21:22] <mtu> but it needs to be installed on the live system with apt-get install cryptsetup (so you need an internet connection)
[21:23] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[21:23] <Dhraakellian> so go with the same passphrase for now but change it later?
[21:24] <chx> how can i stop the cursor from moving to the next desktop at screen edges? it's so annoying :(
[21:24] <mtu> well yeah, you can basically change it anytime you have access to the partition with cryptsetup
[21:24] <Dhraakellian> think I'll use a different one for / and swap though
[21:25] <mtu> you won't need to enter your passphrase for swap i think... it's handled some other way, but i haven't set that up yet
[21:25] <daSkreech> !gutsy
[21:25] <Dhraakellian> mtu: well, we'll see what it prompts me for
[21:26] <mtu> encryption is a good idea :)
[21:26] <Dhraakellian> reading the installation-guide docs, it looks like using a passphrase for swap is good if you expect to be suspending to disk
[21:26] <Dhraakellian> which I'd like to at least try
[21:27] <Dhraakellian> (given that suspending to RAM is pretty much pointless with a worse-than-dead-weight battery)
[21:27] <mtu> for now, i have / encrypted and not swap. suspend to disk works now, i hope it will work with encrypted swap, too ,)
[21:27] <Dhraakellian> I'm not sure if I've ever had suspend to disk work perfectly on that laptop
[21:28] <cinex> ok, im annoyed now. my compaq/hp mousepad clicks when u tap the mouse part as if it was a button.
[21:28] <cinex> anyone know how to stop that?
[21:28] <matask> Fuckng hard to understand theese linux
[21:28] <matask> Mates
[21:28] <matask> ...
[21:28] <youngproguru> exit
[21:28] <Dhraakellian> there've always been glitches, whether they be nonfunctional ethernet (but working wifi) or just simple screen garbage that gets better when the screen is refreshed
[21:29] <mtu> well, i have to reconnect to every sort of network after suspending
[21:29] <Dhraakellian> cinex: ksynaptics is what I would've recommended a while back, but I think it's unmaintained and deprecated now
[21:29] <Dhraakellian> not sure what the replacement is
[21:29] <Dhraakellian> I usually just turn the touchpad off and use a USB thumb-operated trackball
[21:29] <mtu> but hands down, suspend to RAM is awesome because it shuts down the HDD. that's perfect for carrying the laptop around.
[21:30] <Dhraakellian> mtu: yeah, but it requires a working battery
[21:30] <mackk431> i just got hping2 to crash with a buffer overflow. how is that possible?
[21:31] <mackk431> it happend each time in that terminal. i started a new terminal and now hping2 crash no more.
[21:31] <mackk431> why did it crash in the first terminal?
[21:32] <mtu> Dhraakellian: it is so bad with your battery?
[21:32] <mtu> what laptop have you got
[21:32] <mackk431> i am checking my firewall
[21:32] <Dhraakellian> it's old and dead and was causing periodic system lag that was wreaking havoc on password entry
[21:32] <Dhraakellian> Compaq Presario 2100
[21:32] <Dhraakellian> ca. 2003
[21:32] <mackk431> for open ports
[21:33] <Dhraakellian> I got this thing for the price of retrieving files off of my sis-in-law's borked/corrupted XP installation
[21:33] <Dhraakellian> I don't feel like spending any money on it
[21:33] <mtu> i was lucky with my ~2004 thinkpad i bought used, the battery still does ~2.5 h
[21:34] <Dhraakellian> I think our beat-up old 400MHz celeron has enough battery to change outlets – if you're extremely quick abouti t
[21:36] <cinex> Dhraakellian: ksynaptics is not in the repos
[21:37] <Dhraakellian> cinex: as I said, deprecated
[21:37] <cinex> Dhraakellian: there is a gsynaptics though
[21:37] <maco> i thought it was called qsynaptics
[21:37] <Dhraakellian> cinex: that'd be the Gnome/GTK frontend
[21:38] <Dhraakellian> maco: maybe.  I don't think so, but maybe
[21:38] <Dhraakellian> !synaptics
[21:38] <maco> pretty sure they're g & q
[21:38] <maco> not k
[21:38] <daSkreech> hi alonea
[21:38] <alonea_> hi
[21:39] <Dhraakellian> !synaptics @ cinex
[21:39] <daSkreech> Dhraakellian: try s/@/|
[21:39] <alonea_> eagles0513875: so sorry that I did not respond, internet went wonky. I upgraded to Jaunty. trying to get knetworkmanager to start on startup
[21:39] <Dhraakellian> heh. right.  different bots with different functions/syntax
[21:39] <Dhraakellian> !synaptics | cinex
[21:40] <daSkreech> alonea_:  use either the plasmoid or wicd
[21:40] <cinex> thanks
[21:40] <eagles0513875> alonea: remind me what your issue is again
[21:40] <eagles0513875> daSkreech: read my mind
[21:40] <Dhraakellian> how is wicd?
[21:40] <eagles0513875> alonea: please remove knetwork manager and install plasma-widget-network-manager
[21:40] <Dhraakellian> it gets raving recommendations from a guy or two from the local LUG
[21:40] <tomsdale> my laptop goes directly to sleepmode after it has been sitting for a while under "performance mode
[21:40] <daSkreech> eagles0513875: As long as I don't have to use your floppy drive
[21:41] <alonea_> eagles0513875: er, need to kill me ghost here. ok, will try that out, brb...
[21:41] <tomsdale> and I unplug the power - anyone noticed this too?
[21:41] <eagles0513875> !ghost | alonea
[21:41] <Dhraakellian> tomsdale: check your power management settings?
[21:42] <alonea> there we go
[21:42] <maco> alonea: the plasmoid should have been installed but not added to the panel during upgrade (clean installs add it to the panel)
[21:42] <Dhraakellian> tomsdale: systemsettings > Advanced > Power Management > Edit Profiles > Powersave
[21:43] <alonea> eagles0513875: ok, how do I start this plasma-widget-network-manager?
[21:43] <Dhraakellian> (assuming that it's the same in Kubuntu as in Suse... I don't have my Kubuntu box up and running yet)
[21:43] <eagles0513875> alonea: add it to the bar on the bottom like you do any normal widget
[21:44] <alonea> eagles0513875: is it network management?
[21:44] <Dhraakellian> (but it's a KDE thing, I'm pretty sure, so it should be there in both)
[21:44] <SiRs> hi
[21:44] <SiRs> how to see channelS?
[21:44] <daSkreech> SiRs: generally try /list
[21:44] <SiRs> thks
[21:45] <tomsdale> Dhraakellian: I think what triggers it is the setting:when system idle for more than 15 minutes suspend to RAM.
[21:45] <Dhraakellian> tomsdale: that would do it, I think.  :)
[21:46] <mtu> umm
[21:46] <tomsdale> Dhraakellian: the weired thing is though it's not supposed to go into suspend mode directly after i unplug the power.
[21:46] <mtu> if you're using 9.04, the network manager applet is broken
[21:46] <Dhraakellian> dunno
[21:46] <mtu> i suggest using wicd instead
[21:46] <Dhraakellian> "Configuration of encrypted volumes failed
[21:46] <Dhraakellian> An error occured while configuring encrypted volumes.
[21:46] <Dhraakellian> The Configuration has been aborted.
[21:46] <mtu> you might need to load modules for your encryption
[21:47] <mtu> like aes or twofish
[21:47] <Dhraakellian> "  And it doesn't tell me what the error was
[21:47] <tomsdale> it apparently takes the 15 minutes it has been idle under the performance setting and goes immediately into suspend. It should reset it's counter and wait another 15 minutes.
[21:47] <amik> hi, I'm trying to build a freshly checked out copy of kdebase, and getting error: Phonon/ObjectDescription: No such file or directory
[21:47] <super_hoops1967> i really need some help.  my window manager tweaks isn't opening and now everything runs in full screen :(
[21:47] <amik> googling it shows a few ppl with the same issue dating back a few months, but no solutions
[21:47] <amik> any ideas?
[21:48] <Dhraakellian> and now it erases data on LV root for the third time
[21:48] <Dhraakellian> heh. heh. heh.
[21:49] <super_hoops1967> how can i stop everything running in full screen...the applications/places dissapear when i open anything
[21:49] <KalEl> how do i migrate from ubuntu to kubuntu, and remove all the gnome baggage?
[21:49] <Rob-> need some major help.  Upgraded to JJ 9.04 and there must have been a problem during install (I was out).  when I rebooted I get a Kernel Panic error
[21:49] <alonea> eagles0513875: thank you! the new thing is awesome. My only issue is I get a lot of graphical issues. Like part of the screen will scramble. Happens a lot more than it used to now. Also, it seems some graphical packages are missing???? Like, Open Office no longer has icons and its all this ugly gray now, like a windows 95 program.
[21:50] <daSkreech> !purekde |  KalEl
[21:50] <eagles0513875> alonea: what video card do you have
[21:50] <Rob-> 1.664379 Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)
[21:50] <tomsdale> Rob-: that's a bad situation. There could be so much wrong with your system half upgraded.
[21:50] <alonea> eagles0513875: ...the evil satanic intel one. forgot model, lemme look it up real fast.
[21:50] <Rob-> tomsdale: yeah I figuered it was bad
[21:50] <eagles0513875> alonea: those right now on jaunty are having lots of issues
[21:50] <Rob-> how do I proceed?
[21:51] <Rob-> the only disc I have is 7.04
[21:51] <tomsdale> Rob-: the thing is even if you figure this error out - there might be others. Personally I would backup my data and do an install from scratch.
[21:51] <alonea> eagles0513875: on laptop...and it has issues in windows as well sometimes for certain apps..at least its not me
[21:51] <Rob-> tomsdale:  how do I back-up my data if I cannot boot?
[21:52] <eagles0513875> ya well i have been luck all my machines have been either ati or nvidia or nforce chipset
[21:52] <tomsdale> Rob-: with a live cd.
[21:52] <tomsdale> you should be even able to boot 7.04 into live and burn another 9.04 live cd.
[21:52] <alonea> eagles0513875: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c). at least my checkboxes in firefox work now! no more half covered
[21:53] <Rob-> tomsdale: stupid question.  OK! So I boot off 7.04... then I need to save all data to USB drive. then download a 9.04 ISO?
[21:55] <tomsdale> Rob-: That's what I would do. if you have a USB drive large enough for your home folder
[21:55] <tomsdale> Rob - did you upgrade 7.04 - 9.04?
[21:55] <super_hoops1967> how can i fix my window manager tweaks?
[21:55] <alonea> eagles0513875: ok, one more question, is there ever going to be a graphical touchpad settings manager again? its been missing ever since we went to hal and I have yet to make an xml (.fdi) file that works properly, if at all.
[21:56] <Rob-> tomsdale: Home folder is what I want to save?  what about any VirtualBox stuff.  I have a 1 TB drive
[21:56] <eagles0513875> alonea: not sure to be honest
[21:56] <eagles0513875> alonea: i would file a wishlist request on launchpad
[21:57] <super_hoops1967> i've got nothing appearing at the bottom when i open a program
[21:57] <alonea> eagles0513875: it is a real hassle when if I so much as barely brush my touchpad while typing it either clicks on something, moves my cursor, etc.
[21:57] <tomsdale> Rob, I don't know your setup exactely. If you want to be on the save side and have a spare 1TB USB drive make a complete backup.
[21:57] <alonea> eagles0513875: I will see about that, thanks.
[21:57] <Rob-> tomsdale: I can't get the 7.04 cd to run
[21:57] <tomsdale> Rob-: otherwise I usually save /home /etc and /opt VirtualBox stuff usually is all in /home/.VirtualBox
[21:57] <alonea> daSkreech: hey mate, how goes it?
[21:58] <tomsdale> How do you access IRC Rob-
[21:58] <tomsdale> Do you have another Ubuntu system running?
[21:58] <Rob-> toms
[21:58] <Rob-> tomsdale: laptop
[21:58] <daSkreech> alonea: busy :)
[21:58] <daSkreech> I'm actually running out right now
[21:59] <tomsdale> Rob-: what does it run? you might be able to do a live USB stick and install from that.
[21:59] <daSkreech> alonea: How are you ?
[21:59] <alonea> daSkreech: alright, have a good one! doing ok. hectic. crazy. stressed. busy as well.
[21:59] <daSkreech> Loverly :)
[22:00] <Rob-> tomsdale: Laptop runs 8.04 (upgraded from 7.04)
[22:00] <alonea> daSkreech: I have weekly meetings with my doctor now.
[22:00] <daSkreech> ok that's nice and kinda creepy
[22:00] <tomsdale> Rob-: I think they introduced the live USB creator in Ubuntu 8.10. Can you burn CD's on your laptop?
[22:00] <daSkreech> alonea: Do you have an Identi.ca account?
[22:00] <alonea> daSkreech: got there weird headaches/migraines (we have not figured out which yet) so getting accupressure.
[22:00] <alonea> daSkreech: a wha??
[22:01] <daSkreech> alonea: :-) It's like twitter but open source
[22:01] <daSkreech> http://identi.ca/skreech2
[22:01] <Rob-> tomsdale: BTW I just got into boot menu on tower.  I have the following option 9.04 Kernel 2.6.28-11 generic or recovery monde
[22:01] <alonea> daSkreech: hmmm, fun!
[22:01] <daSkreech> alonea: Two of my friends have had strange headaches and it was tumourish
[22:02] <Rob-> tomsdale: and 2.6.24-24 - generic or recovery mode and 2.6.22 - generic or recovery mode
[22:02] <Rob-> tomsdale: Yes I can burn a cd on laptop
[22:02] <tomsdale> Rob-: I never used recovery mode, I don't know what it does - I always used a live CD when I had a problem.
[22:03] <daSkreech> alonea: Surgery was success and headaches gone
[22:03] <Rob-> tomsdale: should I try an erlier kernel?
[22:03] <trylik> hi, how big are files from kde4 svn trunk?
[22:03] <Rob-> tomsdale: if so which one?
[22:03] <daSkreech> trylik: big
[22:03] <tomsdale> Rob-: Give it a go, I don't think it will break anything by trying. The problem though is that you don't know where it stopped the upgrade
[22:04] <mtu> oh, dammit! with the vesa X driver, i cannot choose a resolution greater than 800x600. any ideas?
[22:04] <alonea> daSkreech: ah, this seems to be directly related to stress
[22:04] <daSkreech> alonea: here is where I say Come to Jamaica mon!
[22:04] <tomsdale> Rob-: so you might have some half finished updates or corrupted packages in your installation.
[22:05] <Rob-> tomsdale:  I understand.  can I re-install/upgrade 9.04 . I can't get it to boot from live CD
[22:05] <alonea> daSkreech: hehehe. such as life of the poor college student
[22:05] <trylik> daSkreech ~2GB?
[22:06] <daSkreech> trylik: Depending on what you are pulling a bit more
[22:06] <Dhraakellian> felgercarb
[22:06] <tomsdale> is that maybe just the 7.04 live CD. Try burning a recent 9.04 with a recent kernel, maybe that works.
[22:06] <Dhraakellian> Configuration of encrypted volumes failed again
[22:06] <trylik> daSkreech well i adddded extragear and playground ...
[22:06] <trylik> :)
[22:07] <Dhraakellian> I wish it'd tell me *why*
[22:07] <daSkreech> trylik: Then a little more :)
[22:07] <eagles0513875> no problem alonea sry for long response playing around with lmms
[22:07] <eagles0513875> !lmms
[22:07] <eagles0513875> !info lmms
[22:07]  * daSkreech hugs alonea See you soon I hope 
[22:07] <mtu> Dhraakellian: no hints in dmesg or /var/messages ?
[22:07] <Rob-> tomsdale:  recovery (earlier kernel) is working.  Should I "resume normal boot" or "Repair Boken Packages"?
[22:08] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[22:08] <alonea> daSkreech: thanks mate, have a good one.
[22:08] <alonea> eagles0513875: tis fine. I am in class actually. ^_^
[22:08]  * Dhraakellian checks the various ttys to see if there's some sort of output
[22:09] <Dhraakellian> seeing a couple "partman-crypto: Command failed: Device busy" and "partman-crypto: Command failed: can not access device" messages
[22:09] <tomsdale> Rob-: see how far you get with a normal boot. what was your earlier ubuntu version?
[22:09] <tomsdale> the one you tried to upgrade.
[22:09] <mtu> Dhraakellian: what exactly is it you're trying to do at the moment?
[22:11] <Dhraakellian> mtu: set up encryption on /, /home (already encrypted and containing my old home dirs), and swap with the 9.04 alternate installer
[22:11] <Dhraakellian> mtu: this is happening in the Configure encrypted volumes section
[22:12] <Dhraakellian> it did ask me for passphrases the first time
[22:12] <mtu> i followed a guide that uses a different procedure ( but it's in german :-( )
[22:12] <Dhraakellian> hehheh
[22:12] <Dhraakellian> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/module-details.html#partman-crypto
[22:12] <mtu> what you do is basically this:
[22:12] <tomsdale> what do you guys recommend to theme your KDE - Dekorator, Plasma, Bery? Does Beryl work with KDE?
[22:12] <Dhraakellian> tomsdale: crystal
[22:13] <tomsdale> Dhraakellian: is that a Theme or a package?
[22:13] <Dhraakellian> the window decoration, that is, since that's what you appear to be asking
[22:13] <mtu> you boot the normal (not alternate) live CD. then install cryproot in the live system and load the modules for your encryption. set up the encrypted partition by hand, and install into /dev/mapper/root instead of /dev/sda2 etc.
[22:13] <mtu> but then you have to heavily tweak the system on the root partition to make sure it will boot
[22:13] <Dhraakellian> hrm
[22:13] <KalEl> do i get kde4 with kubuntu-desktop?
[22:14] <KalEl> or should i specify kubuntu-kde4-desktop?
[22:16]  * Dhraakellian restarts the process hoping he just took a misstep somewhere
[22:16] <Dhraakellian> KalEl: kubuntu-kde4-desktop sounds logical to me
[22:16] <KalEl> ok
[22:16] <Dhraakellian> but I haven't been much of a Kubuntu user for a good six months or mor now
[22:16] <mtu> Dhraakellian: out of curiosity, what encryption do you have on /home?
[22:16] <Dhraakellian> !
[22:17] <Dhraakellian> that might be something to check
[22:17]  * Dhraakellian goes to see what Suse defaults to
[22:18] <mtu> 'cryptsetup luksDump /dev/sd??' should tell you if you have it available
[22:20] <tomsdale> Dhraakellian: crystal looks nice ... let's see how far we get with transparency and crystal :-) I like transparency
[22:21] <mtu> god dammit! graphics performance with 'radeon' is crap, but 'vesa' won't allow 1024x768... 'ati' and 'fglrx' don't work. any ideas?
[22:21] <Dhraakellian> tomsdale: it'd be Crystal 2.0.x though, which doesn't do quite so much with transparency as the 1.x KDE3 version
[22:22] <Dhraakellian> but the main nice thing I like about it is how small I can get it
[22:23] <Dhraakellian> mtu: just got back to the partitioning section after a reboot
[22:24] <Dhraakellian> "Command failed: /dev/sda1 is not a LUKS partition"
[22:24] <mtu> hum!
[22:24] <Dhraakellian> same when I manually specify sda2
[22:24] <mtu> then maybe they used a different encryption scheme like cryptoloop
[22:25] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[22:25] <mtu> from what i read, it's not recommended because it's been shown to be unsafe
[22:25] <k4_k4> i have a little problem :
[22:25] <Oceanwatcher> What is the name of the partitioning module for KDE?
[22:25] <k4_k4> Kubuntu : i have soprano-backend-sesame installed , and it has the dependancy to libsoprano-dev
[22:25] <mtu> Dhraakellian: think you could move the data off of /home to a backup and remake the partition?
[22:25] <Dhraakellian> I think I remember seeing "LUKS" and "dm_crypt" when SUSE was prompting me for passphrases
[22:25] <Oceanwatcher> The one that imho should have been in the system settings :-)
[22:26] <mtu> well then there should be LUKS information to the partitions...
[22:26] <k4_k4> the problem is , if  libsoprano-dev is installed it pulls automatically the system soprano libs
[22:26] <k4_k4> and not the libs from kdesupport compiled by hand
[22:26] <Dhraakellian> y'know, I don't think I have anything on this drive that isn't on my desktop too
[22:26] <Dhraakellian> mtu: well, maybe it got confused by the stuff I already tried to do from the kubuntu installer?
[22:27] <mtu> or maybe suse just uses some stuff with a twist so it's not directly compatible
[22:27] <mtu> in any case, a backup of your data and re-doing the whole thing is probably what would work best. but i can't talk you through it all i'm afraid
[22:28] <Dhraakellian> mtu: no problem
[22:29] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Hey there!
[22:30] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I have Kubuntu installed now (jaunty) but i had KDE3 first (installed KDE3 from gnome) now i want JUST kde4.Is there a way to wipe all my KDE3 stuff?
[22:34] <Dhraakellian> !purekde4
[22:34] <Dhraakellian> !purekde
[22:34] <und3rgr0undz3r0> i want to remove all KDE3
[22:35] <Dhraakellian> !puregnome
[22:35] <linux-hdtv> Oceanwatcher, use gparted, it is finally working well.
[22:35] <linux-hdtv> Of course it should be included, but we say that since ages ...
[22:35] <Oceanwatcher> Ok... But that one is a gnome tool. Nothing that has been done for KDE?
[22:36] <Dhraakellian> there's qtparted, but is that even maintained these days?
[22:36] <linux-hdtv> use the one that works well :-)
[22:36] <mtu> dont thjink so
[22:37] <ign0ramus> last changelog on qtparted page is from 2004
[22:37] <und3rgr0undz3r0> ugh there is nothing in the forums about getting rid of kde3 in jaunty
[22:37] <tobi> I had a firefox icon on my desktop. I wanted to delete the Name, but now the symbol is gone, the Name is still there! How do I get that symbol back ?
[22:38] <linux-hdtv> und3rgr0undz3r0, kde4 is buggy ... crashy ...
[22:38] <und3rgr0undz3r0> yeah, but kde3 inst working well
[22:38] <linux-hdtv> tobi, that's a good one :-)
[22:38] <und3rgr0undz3r0> knetworkmanager is working with my wireless
[22:38] <mtu> 4.2 isn't so bad
[22:39] <joshjtl> what file (im guessing no longer xorg.com) can I see what my mouse is set up as?
[22:39] <ign0ramus> tobi, can you highlight (shift+click) where the icon ought to be?
[22:39] <mtu> und3rgr0undz3r0: aaah, the kde 4.2 network managing applet on jaunty is broken
[22:39] <mtu> better use wicd
[22:39] <linux-hdtv> und3rgr0undz3r0, ask in #ubuntu
[22:39] <ign0ramus> joshjtl, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:39] <tobi> no fun, instead of the old symbol there is a questionmark right now
[22:39] <und3rgr0undz3r0> thanks linux-hdtv
[22:39] <joshjtl> ign0ramus: nope not in there anymore
[22:40] <Dhraakellian> my main troubles with KDE4.2 are probably related to the fact that I went in and edited the config files to get per-desktop wallpapers
[22:40] <Dhraakellian> had to do some fiddling around to see what exactly needed to be edited and how
[22:40] <ign0ramus> tobi, can you right click where the icon should be?
[22:40] <mtu> no support for that out of the box? o.O
[22:40] <tobi> Yes I can
[22:40] <tobi> :D
[22:41] <ign0ramus> tobi, then select 'properties' and re-assign the icon
[22:41] <ign0ramus> tobi, alternatively, you could delete it from the desktop, and drag a fresh one over from the Kmenu
[22:42] <tobi> Funnywise the firefox I reinstalled already is not in the KMenu list
[22:42] <joshjtl> what file (it's no longer xorg.com) can I see what my mouse is set up as?
[22:43] <tobi> And I can't find the Firefox Icon in the icon-settings, ... it's gone!
[22:43] <ign0ramus> tobi, are you using jaunty and the new kickoff menu?
[22:43] <mackk431> what happens if you open a terminal and tpye firefox in it?
[22:43] <ign0ramus> tobi, if so, see if it appears under 'web browser'
[22:43] <tobi> Yes
[22:44] <tobi> The standart Web-Browser is the Konquerer
[22:44] <tobi> I think I have to find the firefox symbol somerwhere!
[22:44] <mackk431> tobi open a terminal and type firefox + enter
[22:45] <tobi> open it is!
[22:45] <ign0ramus> tobi, you should be able to find it by right clicking where the old firefox icon used to be, and then selecting properties.  you can re-assign the old icon
[22:45] <mackk431> did firefox start?
[22:45] <tobi> it started, ... I will search for it in the properties, thx so long!
[22:46] <mackk431> did you get the icon in your menu now?
[22:46] <ign0ramus> tobi, in the General tab, just click on the picture
[22:49] <tobi> what should happen ?!
[22:49] <mackk431> there should be an icon in your kmenu to start firefox
[22:50] <mackk431> programm->internet
[22:51] <tobi> found it...
[22:51] <mtu> you should be able to drag+drop it to the desktop
[22:51] <mtu> or some panel
[22:51] <tobi> thanks for the help, anyway my firefox isn't findable in the KMenu
[22:51] <mackk431> you can also press alt+f2 and type firefox in the box
[22:51] <tobi> I can drag&drop Icons from the KMenu!
[22:53] <ign0ramus> tobi, i just told you that! :P
[22:53] <tobi> right, also you told me to find it in the properties - found!
[22:54] <ign0ramus> tobi, excellent! :)
[22:54] <ign0ramus> tobi, so you're good now?
[22:54] <tobi> very good! The icon is back on the desk, ...
[22:54] <ign0ramus> :)
[22:54] <tobi> merci!
[22:54] <ign0ramus> pas de probleme!
[22:55] <amgarchIn9> what are all those functions in "declare -p" starting with underscore good for?
[22:57] <Hirnlos> help, my screens are black, i only see the mouse, what can i do?
[22:57] <zer0o> hi guys can someone help me with updating NEXUIZ to version 2.5? i downloaded the .deb package but when running it it says its missing the Nexuiz-data dependancy thus i downloaded it to and put them both in /home, while i run one or the other is always saying is missin the other one's dependency... where am i wrong? thanks
[23:05] <skierpage> !video
[23:12] <MiscDebris> I'm using a calendar directory.  It's shared between 3.5.9 and 4.2.2.  3.5.9 shows the correct information regardless of view, while 4.2.2 shows incorrect or lacking information depending on the view.  Is there something I'm doing wrong?
[23:15] <mauri29> Hello, anybody knows how to create new files with Dolphin, that has windows EOF format?
[23:15] <nadie__> bay bay
[23:16] <lundh> hello
[23:17] <mauri29> I am refering about creating "new text files" with windows EOF format, not Unix.
[23:17] <lundh> does anyone know of any good music players for kde4. amarok2 is really not as nice as banshee yet
[23:18] <lundh> oh, whats the easies way to get kubutu installed from an ubuntu-alternate install? aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ?
[23:19] <kaddi> !purgeubuntu
[23:20] <kaddi> !purgegnome
[23:20] <skierpage> mauri29, you mean the new blank file has the wrong EOF character?  I just did strace on dolphin, and it looks like it reads /usr/share/templates/.source/TextFile.txt
[23:20] <kaddi> !purgekde |lunfh
[23:20] <kaddi> i don't believe ti -.-
[23:21] <kaddi> i swear there was a working shortcut for this
[23:21] <kaddi> !purekde |lunfh
[23:21] <skierpage> mauri29 when you choose Create New > Text file.  So you could modify that, or maybe there's a local directory you can put a "Windows Text file" template.
[23:21] <nfrs> hi
[23:21] <nfrs> using kde 4.2.2 on kubuntu 9.04, I'm seeing large memory leaks (aggregating over time) in both plasma and X. is this a known problem?
[23:21] <mauri29> skierpage, thankyou! going to try this
[23:29] <skierpage> mauri29, I don't know how you add to Dolphin's "Create New..." menu, putting something in your local Templates doesn't do anything.  Seems like a doc bug!
[23:33] <mauri29> skierpage, I don't know that too(?). I opened "gksudo kate /usr/share/templates/.source/TextFile.txt" , then I did -> Tools -> End of Line -> Windows/DOS, save, and that's all. When I crate new text file, this file is with the format EOL (not EOF like I said) of Windows like I need. This is to send text files to Windows users and that they can view them correctly with notepad.exe.
[23:34] <mtu> good night folks
[23:34] <kaddi> good night mtu
[23:34] <kaddi> :)
[23:34] <mtu> Dhraakellian: good night :) good luck with your encryption!
[23:34] <mtu> seeyas
[23:35] <dylan_>  Hey guys thanks for the replies earlier, I am trying to configure my NVIDIA 8800 in ubuntu 9.04 for 1280x1024 resolution, but there is no setting in the nvidia-settings progarm for 1280 x 1024, there is every other resolution but this one not quite sure what to do ...
[23:36] <skierpage> mauri29, I think Windows Wordpad (write.exe)can open files with UNIX EOL, so maybe there's some extension associated with it rather than Notepad that you can use.
[23:40] <mauri29> skierpage, ok. I will consider this, thanks again.
[23:47] <embraceunity> sad news for linux... be sure to digg this: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Spain_gives_Microsoft_huge_corporate_welfare_program