| maco | how do i cancel a build on a ppa? | 00:07 |
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| maxb | maco: you can't | 00:09 |
| maco | if i delete the source package, does that count? | 00:10 |
| maxb | If the built hasn't started yet, probably | 00:10 |
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| meoblast001 | hi | 00:43 |
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| meoblast001 | how long should this be processing for https://code.launchpad.net/~mysticgalaxies/amethyst-mm/devel | 00:44 |
| ia | hello. i have a question about PPA - could you tell me, please, how can i (if that possible) upload the same package with the same version in different destination series? | 00:48 |
| mwhudson | ia: i don't think you can | 00:52 |
| mwhudson | ia: you can upload it to one and copy it to the others though | 00:52 |
| mwhudson | meoblast001: what do you mean by processing? | 00:52 |
| mwhudson | meoblast001: if you mean the delay between pushing and your revisions appearing, around two minutes | 00:52 |
| meoblast001 | mwhudson: it finished... i thought it was taking too long and there might be a problem | 00:52 |
| meoblast001 | mwhudson: it took longer than usual | 00:53 |
| mwhudson | maybe someone pushed a large branch just before you or something | 00:53 |
| mwhudson | meoblast001: anyway, glad it's working... | 00:53 |
| meoblast001 | ha | 00:53 |
| meoblast001 | thanks | 00:53 |
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| ia | mwhudson: well, i've tried to copy, but i've got error message - "the following sources cannot be copied: same version already has published binaries in the destination archive". | 00:59 |
| ia | and another question - when i run "dput ppa *.changes", how deciding for which destination series packages will be uploaded? for example, if i have a package for karmic, but in my ppa exists only jaunty as destination series, what should i do if i want upload this package for karmic? i will be very appreciate for any clues. | 01:00 |
| mwhudson | ia: that bit is controlled by the debian/changelog file | 01:01 |
| mwhudson | (i think, /me is a bit of a packaging newbie) | 01:01 |
| james_w | ia: your PPA will accept any series that LP knows about, it doesn't matter that you only have jaunty packages in there so far | 01:02 |
| james_w | ia: and as for your other question, it's not possible | 01:02 |
| james_w | you need to change the version number | 01:03 |
| ia | james_w: so, please, correct me if i wrong - dput uploads package in LP series (even if it doesn't exist in ppa yet), which provided in debian/changelog first line "package (X.Y-KubuntuL~ppaZ) series; urgency=low", right? | 01:09 |
| james_w | yep | 01:09 |
| lifeless | jml: I just messed up another review by mail | 01:13 |
| jml | lifeless: the 'review' vs 'status' thing? | 01:14 |
| lifeless | no, the leading space | 01:14 |
| lifeless | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~therve/txaws/status-eu-support/+merge/6138 | 01:14 |
| jml | ahh, yeah. | 01:14 |
| lifeless | I don't understand status yet | 01:14 |
| jml | lifeless: istr you file bugs by email a fair bit -- I guess the leading space for those things is muscle memory | 01:14 |
| lifeless | so I'm not even trying to set those things | 01:15 |
| jml | lifeless: I don't think Launchpad understands it very well either. | 01:15 |
| lifeless | in particular 'resubmit' seems very confused | 01:15 |
| lifeless | the leading space is for bugs yes, bb doesn't have it and I have a lot of bb muscle memory | 01:15 |
| lifeless | I'm not aware of any other mail driven system needing the leading space, FWIW | 01:16 |
| lifeless | Not claiming this should be changed, just giving you the feedback you are asking for | 01:16 |
| jml | yeah, thanks. | 01:17 |
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| tansell | well, it looks like the amd64 builders are catching up - any ideas on what is happening with the i386 builders? they are still 13 or more hours behind | 04:09 |
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| savvas | how do we remove members of a team? | 05:43 |
| spm | savvas: go to the members page, and access the "!" beside their name (right hand side of line) - if you have the access to do so naturally. eg: https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-losas/+members | 05:45 |
| spm | then click on the 'deactivate' button. == removed. | 05:46 |
| savvas | that sets them in former members - any way to remove their name from that list too? :) | 05:46 |
| * wgrant points out that that doesn't actually remove them - it just deactivates the membership. | 05:46 | |
| wgrant | savvas: No. | 05:46 |
| wgrant | This is stupid. | 05:46 |
| spm | wgrant: are you saying that they still have rights/access pertaining to that membership/team? Once deactivated? | 05:47 |
| wgrant | spm: No, but they appear on the membership list. | 05:47 |
| wgrant | Which is often undesirable. | 05:47 |
| wgrant | For both parties. | 05:48 |
| savvas | I agree, from my point of view at least | 05:48 |
| savvas | can I ask for the complete removal from the team? | 05:48 |
| savvas | at answers.l.net I mean | 05:49 |
| * wgrant hasn't heard of that before, although it would be technically simple. | 05:49 | |
| savvas | the list could also be hidden from the public eye, maybe that would be better hehe | 05:50 |
| spm | savvas: you can ask, but we don't have any sql-fu (yet) to easily make it so. Do make it very clear you want a full purge, not just a deactivate - and perhaps even why... :-/ | 05:50 |
| savvas | well the guy wants a full purge, he (user hub) was added by a mistake that I made: https://launchpad.net/~gnote/+members | 05:51 |
| savvas | and showing him as deactivated in a team for his app is kind of silly :) | 05:52 |
| savvas | well, his and tomboy's to be copyright-correct :P | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | ah, hub | 05:53 |
| ajmitch | so why does he want no association whatsoever with the team? | 05:53 |
| savvas | never asked, since I added him in the first | 05:54 |
| spm | savvas: sounds fair - put that in a Q and that we (losa's) plz to need some SQL fu to make it so. ;-) | 05:54 |
| savvas | *place | 05:54 |
| wgrant | spm: You're not allowed to work out the SQL yourself? | 05:54 |
| savvas | will do! | 05:54 |
| spm | wgrant: can. but my sql is rusty as, and following LP development is not a good use of my time - better to ask those who know and work with daily to do so | 05:55 |
| persia | spm, Is the use of questions to resolve these situations generally accepted, or is it to be reserved for rare cases? | 05:55 |
| wgrant | spm: That's true. | 05:56 |
| spm | persia: accepted. very accepted. we may do some serious head scratching internally: but no-ask, no get. This way helps "us" to think about stuff that may have been passed on originally for various reasons. | 05:57 |
| * spm afk for a bit. bbs. | 05:57 | |
| persia | spm, Thanks. I'm "deactivated" in a couple groups as a result of confusion on joining. It's not painful, but it's also not really accurate. I'll file some questions. | 05:58 |
| spm | persia: in that case - there may be scope to make this a bug - once is accidental, twice is an issue that needs solving. IMHO of course. :-D | 05:58 |
| stub | You should only show up as deactivated to team admins btw. | 05:59 |
| wgrant | Right, there needs to be a way to distinguish between somebody leaving a team, and somebody never really being a member at all. | 05:59 |
| persia | Oh, it's certainly not uncommon, but most people just live with it. | 05:59 |
| wgrant | stub: 'Should' as in 'do'? | 05:59 |
| stub | As in 'it might be a bug if you do' | 05:59 |
| wgrant | stub: Deactivated memberships have shown to everybody forever. | 06:00 |
| * persia hunts an example page, believing it to be visible to those not even logged in | 06:00 | |
| wgrant | It is useful in some circumstances to be able to see it. | 06:00 |
| stub | Yes - just checking. Might want to file a bug - not sure of the use case for displaying deactivated members. | 06:00 |
| persia | stub, I can see myself listed (incorrectly) at https://edge.launchpad.net/~canonical-arm-dev/+members and I've *never* logged in at edge. | 06:01 |
| stub | To non-teamadmins anyway. | 06:01 |
| persia | Well, use case is for looking at turnover, or looking at what people used to do. | 06:02 |
| persia | Something to honor those who did before, even if they aren't doing it any longer. It's just there's a difference between "former member" and "never really a member". | 06:03 |
| wgrant | persia: Exactly. But I'm not sure that can be automatically determined. | 06:03 |
| persia | Perhaps the bug is that one shouldn't be able to unilaterally make someone else a member of a group, without the subject's approval. | 06:03 |
| stub | Yer - maybe the registry team can figure out the best fit. | 06:03 |
| wgrant | It is a very useful distinction to make. | 06:03 |
| persia | It works that way now for teams, so that one invites a team, but an admin of the invited team has to accept. | 06:03 |
| savvas | ah that would work as well :) | 06:05 |
| persia | Anyone else have an opinion on the nature of the bug? I'm happy to file a bug, but I want to avoid confusion over usecases. | 06:06 |
| lifeless | well | 06:09 |
| lifeless | my 2c are that some folk will infer more from 'deactivated' than it means, team admin or not. | 06:09 |
| lifeless | and that we should be clear in the ui and db about 'joined and left' and 'was never here' | 06:09 |
| wgrant | Certainly - but how do you determine which? | 06:10 |
| savvas | the invitation proposal would be great, you invite someone to a team, not forcefully adding them | 06:10 |
| lifeless | wgrant: let the act of leaving ask? | 06:10 |
| wgrant | lifeless: Mm, perhaps. | 06:11 |
| savvas | if anyone wants to take this request it's at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/69833 | 06:13 |
| persia | lifeless, But what about the case where the user never had any interaction to join or leave a team. In my example case above, everything happened without me interacting with LP. | 06:16 |
| lifeless | persia: the person that removed you would presumably say 'never here' | 06:18 |
| persia | OK. Two potentials for the bug then: 1) users should be asked to confirm when invited to join teams, or 2) The interface for deactivating a member from a team should provide a choice as to whether the member should appear in "Former Members". | 06:23 |
| persia | Any other proposals? Voices towards one or the other? | 06:24 |
| jmarsden | (1) seems more consistent with the way other things in LP work. BTW, you could do both (1) and (2), they are not mutually incompatible. | 06:25 |
| lifeless | persia: I'm not proposing solutions | 06:26 |
| lifeless | persia: my 2c were solely that there is a difference | 06:27 |
| persia | lifeless, I'm confused. Have I misinterpreted "lifeless> wgrant: let the act of leaving ask?" ? | 06:27 |
| lifeless | yes | 06:27 |
| lifeless | wgrant asked for solutions | 06:27 |
| jmarsden | Other proposals: show how long they were a member before deactivation... if < 1 day, one infers "mistake" ? | 06:28 |
| lifeless | my 2c were completed before that; I haven't thought about the problem deeply enough to propose solutions | 06:28 |
| jmarsden | This would help with existing cases, whereas (1) and (2) only deal with future cases. | 06:28 |
| persia | jmarsden, Well, that doesn't really cover the mistaken identity issue, often a result of namespace collisions. | 06:29 |
| jmarsden | True, but it covers the case that started the current discussion, at least. | 06:30 |
| persia | jmarsden, Well, consider the case where I invite you to a team, and you're on a three-day-weekend, and you get back, and >1 day has passed, and you say "I don't want to be on that team". | 06:30 |
| jmarsden | That's fine, (1) covers that already. (3) is an additional way to get an idea, for existing pre-(1) memberships, whether someone "really" was part of a team... at elast for some subset of such mistaken memberships. | 06:31 |
| persia | I think cleanup is probably better handled through questions. I'm more interested in fixing the future. | 06:32 |
| jmarsden | Then (1) should do it. | 06:32 |
| persia | Which appears to be bug #239909 | 06:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 239909 in launchpad-foundations "Team Administrator can arbitrarily add members without any action from the LP user" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239909 | 06:36 |
| jmarsden | Agreed. | 06:38 |
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| persia | (2) appears to be bug #121380 | 06:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 121380 in launchpad-foundations "Deactivated/expired members show up on Members page forever" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121380 | 06:48 |
| * persia stops digging through LP bugs, as (3) isn't likely to be there without an implementation of either (1) or (2) | 06:48 | |
| savvas | hm.. builds take quite a long time, is there anything that halted the queue for i386? https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/experimental/+build/985758 | 07:06 |
| jmarsden | savvas: I think a bunch of build machines are still doing duty as download servers for Jaunty? | 07:10 |
| wgrant | savvas: jmarsden is right. See https://launchpad.net/builders. | 07:14 |
| wgrant | Most of the buildds are currently serving releases.ubuntu.com. | 07:15 |
| savvas | ok thanks :) | 07:19 |
| mrooney | Does anyone know if loggerhead can work with subversion? | 08:15 |
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| jml | mrooney: only via bzr-svn | 08:25 |
| mrooney | jml: interesting, do you know if it has to maintain a "copy" of the entire repository in bzr format to work? | 08:30 |
| jml | mrooney: you point it at a branch | 08:31 |
| jml | mrooney: it'll work if the branch is at a remote site | 08:31 |
| jml | mrooney: but with reduced performance | 08:31 |
| mrooney | jml: so I can just point it at a subversion branch with a bzr-svn address and it magically works? | 08:32 |
| jml | mrooney: maybe! I've never tried that. | 08:32 |
| mrooney | I better tomorrow | 08:32 |
| mrooney | jml: if you just point it at a branch, does that mean it has a polling interval? | 08:33 |
| jml | mrooney: no, it gets information as needed AIUI | 08:33 |
| mwhudson | it should work | 08:34 |
| mrooney | jml: well I mean unless you connect it via a commit hook, it would seem that it has to poll | 08:34 |
| mwhudson | but performance might be awful | 08:34 |
| jml | mrooney: no, it could also get information per HTTP request | 08:34 |
| mwhudson | mrooney: no, loggerhead opens the branch on each request | 08:34 |
| mrooney | oooh I see | 08:34 |
| spm | mrooney: fwiw, if you're looking at just svn repo's you may find websvn to your liking or not? http://websvn.tigris.org/ | 08:34 |
| mwhudson | if the branch url is a subversion url, it'll do the bzr-svn thing each time | 08:34 |
| mwhudson | mrooney: tell us what happens, i'm curious :) | 08:35 |
| mrooney | oh okay interesting, is there caching or is it loaded on demand each time? | 08:36 |
| jml | there's some caching. | 08:36 |
| jml | also bzr-svn does some (different) caching | 08:36 |
| mrooney | I am looking for some perhaps alternative to fisheye, and I like using loggerhead on launchpad | 08:37 |
| mrooney | anyway I shall attempt to report in tomorrow | 08:37 |
| jml | I look forward to it. | 08:38 |
| savvas | hm that's odd | 09:10 |
| savvas | I made a glabels build and it's missing the -data package | 09:10 |
| savvas | https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/experimental/+sourcepub/606399/+listing-archive-extra | 09:11 |
| savvas | pbuilder-dist command works fine locally | 09:11 |
| wgrant | savvas: It's because i386 hasn't built yet. | 09:12 |
| wgrant | I presume the -data package is architecture-independent. If it is, it will only be built on i386. | 09:13 |
| wgrant | (but published on all archs, when it's done) | 09:13 |
| savvas | ah right :) | 09:13 |
| soren | Didn't branches used to have a whiteboard? | 09:18 |
| savvas | they still do when you link them with bugs | 09:19 |
| savvas | (at the bug page I mean) | 09:20 |
| wgrant | soren: They were removed, along with branch summaries, in Launchpad 2.2.4. | 09:20 |
| soren | wgrant: Ah, ok. Thanks. | 09:24 |
| * soren tries the merge review feature instead. | 09:26 | |
| wgrant | soren: That was said to be the main alternative to the whiteboard. | 09:27 |
| * maxb wonders if there's a buildd admin around | 09:27 | |
| maxb | molybdenum needs a kicj | 09:27 |
| maxb | *kick | 09:28 |
| wgrant | maxb: It'll live for now, but the relevant sysadmin will be up in a few hours. | 09:28 |
| tansell | are "all" arch ppa's by default built by the i386 builder? | 09:56 |
| wgrant | tansell: Architecture: all binaries are built by the i386 build. If a package has only Architecture: all binaries, it will only be built on i386. | 10:01 |
| wgrant | So, yes. | 10:01 |
| wgrant | Exccept without the 'default' bit. | 10:01 |
| Hamaryns | hi, | 10:05 |
| Hamaryns | can I import bugs from my old Trac bug database? | 10:05 |
| Hamaryns | The server is going to be shut down, I want to import it into Trac totally | 10:05 |
| savvas | Hamaryns: I am not sure, but from what I can read it's a manual action: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+question/18921 | 10:27 |
| savvas | things might have changed though, so please stick around for a little while, maybe someone knows | 10:28 |
| savvas | otherwise, I think you have to ask for it at http://answers.launchpad.net/malone for such import | 10:29 |
| Hamaryns | cheers, I have filed a question there already | 10:32 |
| ripps | The Launchpad sysadmins awake yet? | 10:43 |
| nicoInattendu | Hello, I'm littyle confuse on the 'meaning' of release in under launchpad. I have to create one when i start a new evolution of my project or when i finish it . I thought it was finishiing but the 'Milestone' seems its at begining. | 11:36 |
| wgrant | gmb: Bug #371517, which you just triaged, looks to be a duplicate of bug #249532. | 11:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371517 in malone "say "you're not logged in" not "you are not the bug assignee..." when applicable" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371517 | 11:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 249532 in malone "Bug report says "You are not the assignee nor the maintainer", when you are or that's not relevant" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/249532 | 11:54 |
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| bac | hello | 13:32 |
| rowinggolfer | I see that thanx54 connected from a phone? | 13:33 |
| rowinggolfer | hey bac | 13:34 |
| bac | hi rockstar | 13:34 |
| bac | oops, hi rowinggolfer | 13:34 |
| thekorn | leonardr, hi, i wanted to report the failed test in lazr.restfulclient, but https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/lazr.restfulclient/+filebug is not yet enabled, can you open bugs for this project, or should I send you the logs of buildout per mail? | 14:16 |
| beuno | leonardr, ^ | 14:18 |
| leonardr | thekorn, you should be able to file a bug now | 14:18 |
| thekorn | yes, thanks | 14:18 |
| maxb | bac: Hi, could you have someone take a look at molybdenum? It seems to have a stick build. Thanks! | 15:02 |
| bac | maxb: ok. thanks for the heads up. | 15:03 |
| bac | maxb: cprov is looking into it | 15:05 |
| cprov | maxb: I can't act on a official builder, let me ping someone else. | 15:06 |
| ripps | cprov: Hey, any word on when we'll get some extra servers to take care of that huge backlog on i386 PPA's | 15:08 |
| cprov | ripps: not really, I'm sorry :( I will ask that too | 15:09 |
| cprov | ripps: extra PPA builders (borrowed from other areas) will be available again tomorrow (or Wednesday) | 15:20 |
| ripps | cprov: okay. Here's another question: why can't we move one of the lpia servers to i386? They seem to have the most free time of the arches | 15:21 |
| cprov | maxb: pitti is looking at the issue with the source stuck in molybdenum (it seems to be a general problem striping translations in karmic). | 15:21 |
| maxb | Thanks. (And uhoh. Guess it's lucky it has only bitten once.... so far) | 15:23 |
| cprov | ripps: maybe, if the situation persists we can look at it. | 15:23 |
| ripps | cprov: okay, thanks | 15:23 |
| maxb | Here's a thought I'm having for a potential Soyuz feature request: Have PPAs build into an "incoming" pocket and automatically copy/delete from there into the release pocket when the build succeeds on all archs | 15:24 |
| maxb | Problem at the moment is that one of the PPAs I maintain was uninstallable for a large chunk of a day after an upload, since it contains a source building an arch-specific and an arch-all package which depend on each other. | 15:25 |
| maxb | I've worked around this for myself by creating a staging PPA mirroring each primary PPA | 15:26 |
| cprov | maxb: the 'staging' PPA works fine, IMO. What's the problem with it ? | 15:26 |
| maxb | However that means there's going to be two copies of my packages on ppa.launchpad.net, which can't help the diskspace situation if everyone starts doing it | 15:26 |
| cprov | maxb: it's not wasting any resource. | 15:26 |
| maxb | oh, magic happens behind the scenes so that different URLs on http://ppa.launchpad.net/ hit the same physical file? | 15:27 |
| cprov | maxb: well, it is sort of wasting space in the staging PPA when it gets released to the 'release' one. | 15:27 |
| cprov | maxb: no, both files exist on disk. | 15:28 |
| maxb | Right, so for my packages it doesn't really matter, but if people pulls that trick with openoffice, etc., you need to go buy more disks :-) | 15:29 |
| cprov | maxb: right | 15:29 |
| cprov | maxb: it seems like we need 'Move' in addition to the current 'Copy' action. | 15:30 |
| cprov | maxb: would it make more sense ? | 15:30 |
| cprov | maxb: of course having pockets on PPAs also sort this out (-proposed vs release) | 15:31 |
| maxb | Move would also be helpful | 15:33 |
| cprov | maxb: please file a bug with this feature-request, let's see what other people think about it. | 15:33 |
| maxb | Will do | 15:34 |
| maxb | cprov: Do you feel like investigating an oops trying to call archive.syncSource ? OOPS-1220EA124 | 15:37 |
| cprov | maxb: oh, yes, that's on Julian's plate, but he is sick. We know what the problem is. I fix it ASAP. | 15:38 |
| maxb | Excellent news, thanks :-) | 15:38 |
| maxb | Meanwhile, I shall screenscape the web-ui :-) | 15:39 |
| maxb | *scrape | 15:39 |
| cprov | maxb: yes, copies including binaries never worked. | 15:46 |
| lorenzosu | HI all. There's some problem in a bug thread I'm subscribed to. How to report? | 16:00 |
| Pici | I'm not sure where to report this, but it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/300023 has a lot of inadvertant email comments/spam on it. | 16:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 300023 in sun-java6 "package sun-java6-jre None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jre.list] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:00 |
| lorenzosu | Pici I was here exactly for the same reason! | 16:00 |
| Pici | lorenzosu: Heh, someone in another channel was just talking about it, thought I'd let #launchpad know. | 16:01 |
| lorenzosu | I'm actually subscribed to that... | 16:01 |
| lorenzosu | Today there was a whole chain going on :| | 16:01 |
| lorenzosu | I wish there was some kind of moderation. Isn0t there a bug asignee? | 16:02 |
| lazermouse | Hey everyone, I am getting some *spam* email from canonical | 16:02 |
| Pici | lazermouse: I just reported the issue. | 16:03 |
| lazermouse | ok | 16:03 |
| lazermouse | Thanks Pici, you're a good mate :) | 16:03 |
| lorenzosu | lazermouse Are you subscribed to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/300023 as well? | 16:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 300023 in sun-java6 "package sun-java6-jre None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jre.list] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:03 |
| lazermouse | I'll see... | 16:03 |
| lazermouse | yeas | 16:03 |
| lorenzosu | That's where I'm getting the spam/junk mail | 16:03 |
| lazermouse | are you? | 16:04 |
| lazermouse | Pici: where can I see the details of the report? | 16:05 |
| Pici | lazermouse: I just mentioned it here, I don't know if theres a more formal method. | 16:05 |
| lazermouse | ok | 16:05 |
| lorenzosu | lazermouse I was also searching for a "report spam" or something like in other fora but couldn't find it | 16:06 |
| lazermouse | Yea | 16:06 |
| lazermouse | I have the exact same problem | 16:07 |
| lorenzosu | I think this is quite some security threat... if you see that it also lists all bug subsceribers | 16:07 |
| lazermouse | are you getting the email from guyheavensent@yahoo.com | 16:07 |
| lorenzosu | lazermouse No | 16:09 |
| lazermouse | who are you getting it from? | 16:09 |
| lorenzosu | I got a whole bunch of junt starting from a mail by prasopsuks@gmail.com | 16:10 |
| lazermouse | lorenzosu: want to start a blog about ubuntu? | 16:10 |
| * lazermouse just put out the weirdest question ever :) | 16:11 | |
| lorenzosu | It's all logged in the report on the link I sent | 16:11 |
| lorenzosu | lazermouse Pardon? | 16:11 |
| lazermouse | em... nothing ;) | 16:11 |
| lorenzosu | I thought there supposed to be people 'on duty' in this room? | 16:11 |
| lazermouse | a sure | 16:12 |
| Ursinha | lorenzosu, /topic says who's the one | 16:12 |
| lazermouse | wait | 16:12 |
| Ursinha | bac is | 16:12 |
| lazermouse | Yes, we need help here | 16:12 |
| Ursinha | lazermouse, so ping him :) | 16:12 |
| lazermouse | bac: could you please help us? | 16:12 |
| bac | hi lazermouse | 16:12 |
| lazermouse | k i did | 16:12 |
| lazermouse | hi bac | 16:12 |
| lorenzosu | hi bac | 16:12 |
| bac | sure, let me read up and see what's going on | 16:12 |
| lazermouse | just read a bit befor this post | 16:13 |
| lorenzosu | There's some spam/junk going on on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/300023 at least since 30 April | 16:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 300023 in sun-java6 "package sun-java6-jre None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/sun-java6-jre.list] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Invalid] | 16:13 |
| lazermouse | im tired of getting spam email | 16:13 |
| lazermouse | i have no filter or blacklist | 16:14 |
| lorenzosu | bac Is there no "report abuse" style system? | 16:14 |
| bac | lorenzosu: we generally get user feedback here or via the Answers section. | 16:14 |
| lazermouse | I say ban the user that has this email address guyheavensent@yahoo.com | 16:14 |
| lazermouse | he is spamming | 16:15 |
| lorenzosu | bac Ok. thank you. I'm sure you have recognised the problem and know how to take care of it. | 16:15 |
| lorenzosu | lazermouse I'm sure the launchpad staff will know how to handle it now they've been told. | 16:16 |
| bac | lorenzosu: i see the spam from praveen. | 16:16 |
| lorenzosu | bac To me it looks like spam started by prasopsuk on 30 April | 16:17 |
| lazermouse | yes | 16:17 |
| lazermouse | if i get more spam email, I'll be back here :\ | 16:17 |
| lazermouse | =-O | 16:17 |
| lorenzosu | I was mislead at first, thought the slides had something to do with the bug but hadn't actually followed the link, then today there was a huge mass of emails and I actually saw the problem | 16:17 |
| lazermouse | i already have six messages | 16:18 |
| bac | so, what's the issue with guyheavensent? he doesn't seem to be disruptive | 16:18 |
| lazermouse | he's the one sending me the email | 16:18 |
| lazermouse | i had a pastebin of the message | 16:19 |
| lazermouse | http://pastebin.com/m39aff13c | 16:19 |
| lorenzosu | Yes I think he's just reacting to all the spam and is a little p***** off. | 16:20 |
| lorenzosu | The 'real' spam/disruption started with prasopsuks@gmail.com | 16:21 |
| lazermouse | ban them | 16:21 |
| bac | lazermouse: yes, i think you're correct. | 16:28 |
| lazermouse | do it as quick as possible :) | 16:28 |
| lorenzosu | bac Ok I take it you are dealing with the problem. Thanks for the help | 16:28 |
| bac | lazermouse , lorenzosu: but there isn't much we can do if people continue to reply to the bug email. hopefully it will calm down soon | 16:28 |
| lorenzosu | bac No one can 'administrate' the bug and remove the irrelevant emails? | 16:29 |
| lazermouse | just delete their launchpads accounts | 16:29 |
| lazermouse | and ban thier ip's | 16:30 |
| bac | lorenzosu: the inappropriate comments can be hidden but that won't quell the 'reply all' email storm. | 16:30 |
| lorenzosu | bac Would it be wise to have some 'moderation' mechanism for replies? | 16:30 |
| bac | lorenzosu: i was just thinking about that. | 16:32 |
| lorenzosu | bac I guess though that would make it harder to actually do the reporting | 16:33 |
| bac | lorenzosu: a way to temporarily suspend bug mail would be nice in these situations until everyone calmed down | 16:33 |
| bac | lorenzosu: care to file a bug against launchpad for such an administrative feature? | 16:34 |
| lorenzosu | bac not sure I can do it right now, but sure if you point me to where to do it and maybe a little advice on how | 16:35 |
| bac | lorenzosu: that's ok. i'll do it. | 16:43 |
| lazermouse | id love to be able to deal with spammers on launchpad :D | 16:43 |
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| lorenzosu | bac thanks | 16:43 |
| bac | np | 16:44 |
| lazermouse | yes, thanks bac | 16:47 |
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| Demophobie | Hi! | 17:50 |
| Demophobie | "Oops"-Bugs on the Launchpad Site will be fixed without reporting? | 17:51 |
| Demophobie | i have some oops-bugs on my translation site on launchpad | 17:52 |
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| Jeruvy | sorry if this sounds like a troll, but is launchpad always slow or is it just me? | 18:19 |
| exarkun | Jeruvy: It sounds like a troll because you haven't actually provided enough information for anyone to give you a meaningful answer. | 18:23 |
| exarkun | Give more detail about what you find to be slow. | 18:24 |
| Jeruvy | :) fair enough. Well I click on a link in a email, then the browser opens a tab, and I wait 30 secs for it to load, sometimes it times out (site taking too long). | 18:26 |
| exarkun | Links to any part of Launchpad? Or just links to one part, like to bugs in the bug tracker? | 18:27 |
| Jeruvy | Doesn't matter where, overview, bugs, answers. I am pretty much just in the ubuntu area, sometimes I wander tho. | 18:28 |
| exarkun | The front page loads in less than a second for me. Sometimes bug pages take a couple or a few seconds. How long does it take you to load this page? https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyopenssl/+bug/322813 | 18:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 322813 in pyopenssl "Basic X509V3 context support" [Undecided,New] | 18:29 |
| Jeruvy | 8.5 seconds, that was pretty good. | 18:30 |
| exarkun | That's only a little bit slower than it loads for me, so at least for that page, your experience seems normal. | 18:31 |
| exarkun | Do you have an example of a link that takes much longer to load for you? | 18:32 |
| Jeruvy | ok, thanks for confirming it's normal. Not at the moment, I'd say 8ish seconds is about the average wait for me today | 18:33 |
| qball | Hi, I am looking for some help with importing of a template. I have added it a while back, but it still idles in the queue. (project gmpc, template gmpc-dynamic-plugin) | 18:36 |
| mrooney | If I want to give loggerhead a look-see, does anyone know if I should use 1.10 or trunk? | 18:43 |
| rockstar | mrooney, I'd say trunk. | 18:45 |
| mrooney | Hm ./serve-branches is telling me this svn+http:// address is not a directory | 18:49 |
| mrooney | maybe I'll see if #bzr knows of this! | 18:50 |
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| Nafallo | interesting... when I'm logged in to edge and click a URL somewhere that brings me to prod I'm not logged in :-( | 18:54 |
| Nafallo | but if I alter the URL to be edge again I'm suddently logged in. | 18:54 |
| beuno_ | flacoste_afk, kiko, I've been getting that same behaviour ^ | 18:55 |
| beuno_ | (ie, no redirects) | 18:55 |
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| flacoste | beuno: well the login on prod is separate from edge | 18:56 |
| flacoste | but i think they were messing with the redirect | 18:56 |
| flacoste | the automatic redirect that is | 18:56 |
| flacoste | might be related | 18:56 |
| beuno | flacoste, right, that's expected. Not being redirected isn't | 18:57 |
| kiko | flacoste, AFAIK that RT was not actioned yet | 18:57 |
| flacoste | so this is not a new behaviour | 18:57 |
| kiko | flacoste, or are you talking about something else? | 18:57 |
| flacoste | no that's what i was talking about | 18:57 |
| flacoste | beuno, Nafallo: we only redirect from prod to edge once you are logged on prod | 18:58 |
| beuno | flacoste, it's odd that this happened to us at the same time, no? | 18:58 |
| Nafallo | dooh. | 18:58 |
| beuno | I had to log in last night to production after... 4 months? 5? | 18:58 |
| beuno | doesnt | 18:58 |
| beuno | doesn't prod look for an edge cookie? | 18:58 |
| Nafallo | nice. my password isn't firefox-saved on production | 19:00 |
| * Nafallo goes to find it | 19:00 | |
| elmo | Nafallo: err, your edge one is the same? | 19:01 |
| Nafallo | elmo: sure. but I think firefox saved them either per domain or per URL, so I normally doesn't need to type in my 40+ char passphrase :-) | 19:03 |
| Nafallo | found it thou, and I'm logged in and re-directed. | 19:04 |
| Jeruvy | exarkun: hmm some insight, I've noticed that gmail's redirector seems to be incurring most of the delay. Once the proper URL is loaded it's good and fast. | 19:12 |
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| kiko | beuno_, the sessions seem to have been expired | 19:40 |
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| beuno | kiko, ah! makes sense | 19:41 |
| kiko | beuno, I had to relogin as well this weekend | 19:41 |
| beuno | kiko, so expiries are server-side? | 19:42 |
| kiko | if we clear the session DB.. yeah | 19:42 |
| beuno | ah | 19:43 |
| * beuno learns stuff | 19:43 | |
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| Demophobie | Hey - Are there Launchpad statistics anywhere? Most commit's etc? | 20:31 |
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| bac | Demophobie: there are not individual stats. it's all rolled into the mysterious karma. | 20:54 |
| Mez | has LP recently changed to not allow you to login with your alternate emails ? | 21:04 |
| mthaddon | Mez: I believe it now auto logs you in - try manually logging out and you should then be able to login fine | 21:19 |
| mthaddon | Mez: auto logs you in *if you've logged in previously* that is :) | 21:20 |
| rowinggolfer | 22 minutes ago I pushed revision 50. how come bzr update on laptop no 2 still reports Tree is up to date at revision 49.??? | 21:26 |
| rowinggolfer | when I use ~bzr update | 21:26 |
| rowinggolfer | what am I missing? | 21:26 |
| mwhudson | rowinggolfer: you probably want bzr pull | 21:26 |
| rowinggolfer | cool... that's done it | 21:27 |
| * rowinggolfer hangs head for using a subversion command | 21:27 | |
| beuno | mwhudson, there have been a few reports on the mirroring taking much longer than before the rollout | 21:27 |
| beuno | may or may not be related | 21:27 |
| beuno | ask statik about it :) | 21:28 |
| statik | whos on fire? | 21:28 |
| Snova | It does seem to (noticed it yesterday), but I don't think it takes *that* long. | 21:28 |
| mwhudson | beuno: mirroring or scanning? | 21:28 |
| beuno | mwhudson, mirroring | 21:28 |
| statik | mwhudson: yeah, scan after push used to be pretty snappy, but this last week or so it's been like 15 minutes or more sometimes | 21:28 |
| mwhudson | hmmm | 21:28 |
| mwhudson | i wonder if people have been pushing lots of openoffice branches :) | 21:29 |
| mwhudson | nothing really should have changed here in the rollout, fwiw | 21:29 |
| mwhudson | statik: can you give me the name of a branch you've had this problem with? | 21:30 |
| mwhudson | (and some idea of when you had the problem would be great too) | 21:30 |
| Mez | mthaddon: no, I was trying to login using the normal login details I use, but it wouldnt let me in unless I used the primary email. | 21:34 |
| Mez | (though edge did) | 21:34 |
| epsilon_0 | hi, i commited a revision to launchpad, and then i "uncommit", but now i see it was only local , i could i uncommit the latest revision in the server? | 21:41 |
| epsilon_0 | *how | 21:41 |
| beuno | epsilon_0, push again | 21:42 |
| epsilon_0 | i tried | 21:44 |
| epsilon_0 | it says i must merge | 21:44 |
| LarstiQ | epsilon_0: push --overwrite | 21:44 |
| epsilon_0 | oh, ok | 21:44 |
| epsilon_0 | let me try | 21:44 |
| exarkun | epsilon_0: note that anyone who checked out your branch after you did that commit will be sad, after you do this | 21:45 |
| epsilon_0 | its ok, im working solo for now | 21:45 |
| epsilon_0 | which is also sad | 21:45 |
| rowinggolfer | epsilon_0: what are you working on, out of interest | 21:47 |
| epsilon_0 | im working on a launcher for Windows, called MightyBox | 21:47 |
| epsilon_0 | screenshots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/37627929@N03/ | 21:47 |
| epsilon_0 | what do u think | 21:48 |
| rowinggolfer | pretty | 21:49 |
| epsilon_0 | :) | 21:49 |
| epsilon_0 | u work on Windows? | 21:49 |
| rowinggolfer | nope. | 21:49 |
| epsilon_0 | i figured :) | 21:49 |
| epsilon_0 | u guys have Do | 21:49 |
| rowinggolfer | I am an ubuntu fanboy 110% | 21:50 |
| epsilon_0 | i am too actually | 21:50 |
| epsilon_0 | Ubuntu is awsome | 21:50 |
| rowinggolfer | so why are you making the windows desktop a nicer place? | 21:50 |
| epsilon_0 | lol, well. as a student i work on Windows, its much easier, with Word, skype, messenger, and not the parallels which does not equal | 21:51 |
| epsilon_0 | and if i am successful with MightyBox, ill defenitly port it to Linux | 21:52 |
| epsilon_0 | the core is much more advanced than gnome d | 21:52 |
| epsilon_0 | do | 21:52 |
| rowinggolfer | well good luck! | 21:53 |
| epsilon_0 | thanks | 21:53 |
| Demophobie | someone here who can help me with languages? | 22:02 |
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| statik | mwhudson: sorry about disappearing on you there. one of the branches was lp:~statik/ubunet/open-folder | 22:43 |
| statik | within the last couple of hours | 22:44 |
| mwhudson | statik: thanks | 22:44 |
| persia | bac, Do you need information from me on my team merge question, or just LOSA action? | 22:48 |
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| wgrant | cprov: Is gina not working? The Debian import seems out of date. | 23:19 |
| cprov | wgrant: yes, last run was 14:00 BST (2x a day still) | 23:22 |
| cprov | wgrant: on a mirror from 12:52:44 UTC | 23:23 |
| wgrant | cprov: Hrm, let me check the archive indices. There's a package from a month ago that hasn't been imported yet. | 23:24 |
| cr3 | if I integrate my site with launchpad openid, how can I have a nice label in the login interface instead of the URL for my site? | 23:25 |
| wgrant | cr3: Ask a Question, I believe. | 23:25 |
| wgrant | cprov: It seems gina is fine, but there are packages in the Debian pool that aren't in the right place in the indices that I can see. | 23:25 |
| * wgrant hunts. | 23:26 | |
| wgrant | cprov: Sorry for the noise. | 23:26 |
| cprov | wgrant: you mean the debian indexes are broken ? | 23:26 |
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| cprov | wgrant: better, pool/index mismatch ? | 23:27 |
| poolie | beuno: (if still awake) what do you think of the ui proposal in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/277352 | 23:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 277352 in malone "should be easier to search for closed bugs" [Undecided,New] | 23:28 |
| poolie | i wish for this all the time... | 23:28 |
| * beuno looks | 23:28 | |
| wgrant | cprov: It looks like it was improperly automatically removed a week after it was published (nearly a month ago), but is still sitting in pool because there are binaries. | 23:28 |
| wgrant | cprov: Soyuz's UI makes this more obvious! | 23:29 |
| beuno | poolie, I think it's a good idea | 23:29 |
| beuno | will triage saying so | 23:29 |
| cprov | wgrant: YAY, there is a first time for everything :) | 23:29 |
| wgrant | cprov: Odd that gina didn't pick it up in the 5 days it was sitting in unstable, though. | 23:29 |
| wgrant | (xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.1.0) | 23:30 |
| cprov | wgrant: we had a period of failure ... | 23:30 |
| wgrant | cprov: Aha. | 23:30 |
| cprov | wgrant: right after the 2.2.3 rollout (for few days) | 23:31 |
| wgrant | cprov: That makes sense then. Thanks! | 23:31 |
| cprov | wgrant: cool, np. | 23:31 |
| poolie | jml, do you know off hand if there's a bug for wanting an edge codehost? i can't find one | 23:40 |
| jml | poolie: there is no bug | 23:42 |
| jml | poolie: it's not the sort of thing we can solve by coding. | 23:43 |
| jml | poolie: there's an RT ticket. | 23:43 |
| poolie | do you mind if i open one as a handle for it? | 23:43 |
| jml | poolie: a little. | 23:43 |
| poolie | ok | 23:43 |
| jml | poolie: can we just subscribe you to the RT ticket? | 23:43 |
| poolie | i don't know! good question :) | 23:44 |
| poolie | i'll try | 23:44 |
| poolie | apparently i don't have the number for it | 23:44 |
| poolie | it's not a big deal | 23:45 |
| ripps | When package is in status: Dependency waiting, will it automatically resume when the dependency is added to the ppa? | 23:45 |
| wgrant | ripps: Yes. | 23:46 |
| ripps | wgrant: so it's safe to add a git version to a source packages build-deps? Ex. (0.18.1+git090504) | 23:47 |
| ripps | I don't want to wake up in the morning and have to restart it. | 23:47 |
| poolie | kiko, still busy? | 23:48 |
| wgrant | ripps: There's nothing special about git versions, so yes. | 23:48 |
| ripps | wgrant: well some packages of mine are going through some api changes, and this kill some plugin packages if they're compiled to an older version of the original package | 23:49 |
| wgrant | ripps: Right, but Soyuz knows nothing about that. | 23:49 |
| wgrant | It just knows what you tell it in the Build-Depends line, so will obey whatever you put there. | 23:50 |
| ripps | okay, cool now I can be sure the plugins build to a specific package, and I don't have to wait until the original package is published to upload the plugins | 23:50 |
| wgrant | ripps: Yep. That's a useful feature. | 23:51 |
| bac | persia: the losas have it. | 23:57 |
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