| ryanprior | LordMetroid: mind you, it's not the artwork that is being done for Ubuntu Main. Canonical does that. We post and discuss community contributions peripheral to the main artwork. | 00:01 |
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| LordMetroid | Yes, I figured so much. Canonical did bring in the main wallpaper though from the community for 9.04 if I remember the mail correctly | 00:01 |
| LordMetroid | I am using wallpaper the community produced which I think is far superior than the rather bland default | 00:02 |
| SiDi | For 8.10 afair | 00:02 |
| SiDi | (Anyways the best one is the Xubuntu one :O knome ;) ) | 00:02 |
| knome | x.x | 00:03 |
| SiDi | Night | 00:28 |
| === savvas_ is now known as savvas | ||
| H_M-Ubuntu | Hey I have a question for GDM themes | 03:54 |
| H_M-Ubuntu | How do I make the input (Username/password combo) box black background, with white text? | 03:55 |
| H_M-Ubuntu | Or any color, for that matter. | 03:55 |
| H_M-Ubuntu | Hmmm apparently, you can't.. | 04:05 |
| H_M-Ubuntu | :( | 04:05 |
| === savvas is now known as medigeek | ||
| === medigeek is now known as savvas | ||
| SiDi | dashua: http://www.2nt.free.fr/host/tmp/HansoXfwm.tar.gz :) | 09:48 |
| zniavre | hello i got strange behaviour of gnome-apearence-properties i can't update the picture of my theme | 10:28 |
| zniavre | like that > http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/4572/capturexbv.png | 10:28 |
| zniavre | and all the metacity chooser is as "blank" | 10:28 |
| zniavre | what could be wrong please? | 10:29 |
| kwwii | zniavre: a broken theme of some sort perhaps | 10:50 |
| zniavre | the theme is working great but it's only the thumbnail wrongly displayed | 10:50 |
| zniavre | may be the way i packaged it ? | 10:51 |
| zniavre | maybe* | 10:51 |
| kwwii | not sure | 10:51 |
| kwwii | maybe there is already a known bug about this somehwere? | 10:51 |
| zniavre | whith the intrepid of my wife the same package is well displayed | 10:51 |
| kwwii | I would look in launchpad and gnome bugs | 10:52 |
| zniavre | ok i will after linch | 10:52 |
| zniavre | lunch* | 10:52 |
| zniavre | thank you for answering | 10:52 |
| SiDi | dashua: ping | 11:48 |
| SiDi | http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7408/capturemqe.png there are little artifacts on the right side of the terminal windows but it seems to appear with a lot of themes | 11:53 |
| robsta | hiya | 13:28 |
| thorwil | hi! | 15:22 |
| robsta | hi thorwil | 15:25 |
| thorwil | robsta, hi. writing email | 15:31 |
| thorwil | kwwii, shall we keep you in CC for css-engine related mail? | 15:34 |
| thorwil | robsta, there are 2 cases of graphical patterns in pioneer.svg now | 15:35 |
| thorwil | robsta, for ToggleButton Inconsistent (striped) and for the VScale slider (2x checker) | 15:36 |
| thorwil | these shouldn't be stretched | 15:36 |
| thorwil | robsta, any idea how that can be handled? | 15:37 |
| robsta | thorwil: hmm | 15:40 |
| robsta | not sure i understand | 15:41 |
| robsta | thorwil: as long as librsvg can render it we should be able to use it | 15:42 |
| thorwil | robsta, take the togglebutton. the plain buttons have a simple gradient that can be stretched for any size. the striped togglebutton requires a pattern-fill. the 2 px broad stroke, followed by 2px gap should remain 2 and 2 px | 15:43 |
| robsta | oh, i see what you mean | 15:43 |
| robsta | we can use background-repeat | 15:43 |
| thorwil | robsta, do we need a new plate with a single pattern-element on it? | 15:44 |
| robsta | but i have to think how this works with the plates | 15:44 |
| thorwil | heh | 15:44 |
| thorwil | robsta, the assumption of light straight from above makes these things simpler. ideally, it should be possible to use a pattern with an angled fill. meaning that you can't just use one element, but have to handle geometry and fill separately | 15:46 |
| thorwil | well, simple case first :) | 15:47 |
| robsta | thorwil: i have no idea what you mean | 15:47 |
| robsta | what angle? | 15:47 |
| thorwil | robsta, rotation of the gradient. meaning a gradient that is anything but exactly horizontal or vertical | 15:48 |
| robsta | thorwil: unless we get support for css transforms we have to keep background tiles vertically/horizontally aligned | 15:49 |
| thorwil | robsta, if you look at the checker pattern on the slider, it can't be stretched, it must be repeated to fill an area. but at the same time, if it has a gradient fill, the fill does need to be stretched | 15:51 |
| robsta | thorwil: you mean compositing of the background? | 15:54 |
| robsta | e.g. a tiled checker pattern on top of a gradient? | 15:55 |
| thorwil | as mask on a gradient, you could say | 15:55 |
| robsta | thorwil: mask? | 15:57 |
| thorwil | robsta, alpha mask | 15:57 |
| robsta | thorwil: not sure anything but a plain "combine" can be done in css | 15:58 |
| robsta | anyway, currently only a single bg image is supported by the css library | 15:58 |
| thorwil | robsta, could you take geomtry from the file, duplicate it to fill an area and then give it a single gradient fill? | 15:59 |
| robsta | thorwil: what we could do (after substantial improvements) is drawing arbitrary background-images on top of each other | 16:01 |
| robsta | e.g. first the background gradient (vertical gradient) with "repeat-x" | 16:02 |
| robsta | then the checker pattern on top | 16:02 |
| robsta | tiled, so it repeats in x and y direction | 16:02 |
| robsta | would that work? | 16:03 |
| thorwil | the checker pattern would have to have a single color, then. better than nothing, but not good | 16:03 |
| robsta | why? it can be an arbitrary image | 16:03 |
| thorwil | because the geometry needs to be tiled, but the gradient fill (if one is involved) needs to be stretched | 16:04 |
| robsta | you would have 2 different background-images | 16:05 |
| robsta | on different plates | 16:05 |
| robsta | one is the gradient, the other the checker patter | 16:05 |
| robsta | n | 16:05 |
| thorwil | robsta, what i would want is a gradient fill as base, plus a pattern with its own gradient fill on top ... | 16:06 |
| robsta | yes, that is (theoretically, in the css3 spec) possible | 16:07 |
| robsta | thorwil: http://www.w3.org/TR/css3-background/#layering | 16:08 |
| thorwil | robsta, shall we make that a wishlist item and go with tiling in one direction, fill and geometry at once for now? | 16:08 |
| robsta | thorwil: yes | 16:08 |
| SiDi | May I ask what you guys are preparing ? :) | 16:09 |
| robsta | SiDi: we want to prove people who say gtk theming sucks wrong | 16:09 |
| thorwil | using css and svg | 16:10 |
| SiDi | writing a new engine ? :D | 16:10 |
| robsta | css svg and our awesomeness of course | 16:10 |
| SiDi | Well, i'll morally support you then :) | 16:10 |
| robsta | a new engine is part of what we are doing | 16:11 |
| robsta | thorwil: the problem is that the css parsing library doesn't support those css3 constructs | 16:11 |
| robsta | thorwil: but i want to write my own css parser anyway, inside libccss | 16:12 |
| robsta | just that days only have 24h in my timezone :/ | 16:13 |
| thorwil | yeah | 16:13 |
| thorwil | need more hours and/or more people (well aware of overhead) | 16:15 |
| * SiDi doesn't have spare time. Neither awesomeness | 16:15 | |
| * thorwil wonders how SiDi manages to hang out here with no spare time | 16:15 | |
| SiDi | IRC is my distraction, thorwil :) | 16:16 |
| SiDi | currently working on my next exam + writing a project report | 16:16 |
| SiDi | but i need frequent breaks | 16:16 |
| robsta | thorwil: maybe we can keep the current plates and use "-moz-image-region" to specify the tile | 16:22 |
| robsta | for the striped buttons at least | 16:22 |
| kwwii | thorwil: yes, please, if it is not too much trouble | 16:49 |
| * thorwil throws wildcards at kwwii for still not being subscribed to all of Artwork on the wiki | 20:40 | |
| dashua | SiDi: Another hack pushed to bzr ;) | 21:56 |
| SiDi | :) | 21:56 |
| SiDi | btw, got the xfwm ? | 21:56 |
| dashua | That pixel bug you're talking about? | 21:57 |
| dashua | I didn't get a chance to look at it. | 21:57 |
| SiDi | no thats anyways a xfce bug heh | 21:57 |
| SiDi | not specific to your theme | 21:57 |
| SiDi | http://www.2nt.free.fr/host/tmp/HansoXfwm.tar.gz | 21:58 |
| SiDi | that :p | 21:58 |
| dashua | Oh nice | 21:59 |
| SiDi | done with photoshop though :X | 22:06 |
| SiDi | i needed to do it quick to get a dark xfwm :p | 22:06 |
| dashua | Moving to opensource tools? | 22:06 |
| dashua | I don't have photoshop | 22:07 |
| ryanprior | If anybody is interested in helping the ubuntu game development team create artwork for games, holla. | 22:07 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13501/screenshot_025_O77Wht.png | 22:10 |
| dashua | Needs a little love. I prefer dark, but it seems most people do not. | 22:10 |
| SiDi | damn i disabled images in firefox due to bandwidth | 22:11 |
| SiDi | and mibbit puts mini images instead of URIs to images T_T | 22:11 |
| SiDi | can you write it with a space in the name please dashua ? :P | 22:11 |
| SiDi | dashua: i'm using inkscape, learning little by little. I use it for graphics in my reports atm | 22:11 |
| dashua | http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13501/ screenshot_025_O77Wht.png | 22:12 |
| SiDi | thanks | 22:12 |
| dashua | Np | 22:13 |
| dashua | brb | 22:13 |
| SiDi | sweet | 22:13 |
| knome | Daviey, the problem with dark themes is also that if there is lots of quite similar dark tones, many people can't see the difference their monitor or eyes | 23:05 |
| knome | dashua, ^ | 23:05 |
| SiDi | dashua: btw, which color is used for the toolbars (the ones with file / edit / display) ? I can't get them to the same colour than the window borders | 23:07 |
| dashua | SiDi: The menubar? | 23:13 |
| dashua | On which theme? | 23:13 |
| dashua | #202020 | 23:14 |
| SiDi | Hanso | 23:14 |
| dashua | oh | 23:14 |
| SiDi | It seems its a mix of the primary colors | 23:14 |
| SiDi | cause i changed them and it didnt have much effect | 23:14 |
| SiDi | (or i did something wrong :p) | 23:14 |
| dashua | #231D13 | 23:14 |
| SiDi | wee :D | 23:15 |
| dashua | File > Edit > Search > View, etc. That's the menubar | 23:15 |
| dashua | Cool | 23:15 |
| dashua | Hanso is still my favorite out of the Karmic-Themes | 23:16 |
| dashua | 4 weeks and I'm still using it. Record here. | 23:17 |
| SiDi | Its a fork of Rust, right ? | 23:17 |
| dashua | Yeah, sort of | 23:17 |
| SiDi | yah they usually move fast here too, but i feel this one'll stay | 23:17 |
| knome | SiDi, wait for the official xubuntu theme ;) | 23:17 |
| dashua | Xubuntu is blue, right? | 23:18 |
| knome | ...maybe. | 23:18 |
| knome | we/i don't know yet. | 23:18 |
| SiDi | dashua: though the scrollbar is quite tiny, and thus the arrow part doesnt look great here | 23:19 |
| SiDi | i'd love to see a fork of dust 0.3's scrollbars, in a darker color | 23:19 |
| SiDi | well, dark bar and light bar background, cause it also breaks the layout of GUIs with a scrollbar in the middle | 23:20 |
| SiDi | due to the color contrast | 23:20 |
| dashua | I'm working on new scrollbars for Dust. Kido wanted a lighter version of the Hanso scrollbars. | 23:20 |
| dashua | He reverted back to .3's | 23:20 |
| SiDi | these were awesome though :) | 23:20 |
| SiDi | really one of my favourite things on dust | 23:21 |
| dashua | The new series is all murrine based | 23:21 |
| dashua | .4 | 23:21 |
| savvas | now make an dedust-ubuntu map for counter strike and that's it! :P | 23:32 |
| SiDi | and terrorists work at MS ? | 23:33 |
| SiDi | and counter are the guys of the MOTU Team ? | 23:33 |
| savvas | now that would be a nice game haha | 23:34 |
| savvas | imagine the players to be ninjas throwing "ubuntu" stars :P | 23:34 |
| savvas | I mean those 3-bladed knives, or whatever they're called | 23:35 |
| SiDi | shurikens | 23:35 |
| SiDi | ninja stars are the 8 side ones afair | 23:35 |
| savvas | well we'll have our own ubuntu ones :P | 23:36 |
| dashua | SiDi: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13502/ screenshot_026_GaR40N.png | 23:36 |
| dashua | ? | 23:36 |
| SiDi | dashua: sorry but i dont think it fits the theme :) | 23:37 |
| dashua | Too light? | 23:37 |
| SiDi | Hanso is a smooth theme, this is a "metallic" scrollbar. I'd more see this in the theme which pic you saw me earlier | 23:38 |
| SiDi | too "squared" | 23:38 |
| SiDi | it doesnt fit with the roundness of the theme and the smoothness of the colors | 23:38 |
| dashua | Lighter scrollbar and darker through you think? | 23:39 |
| SiDi | yeh | 23:39 |
| SiDi | not thiner though :p | 23:39 |
| SiDi | more discrete | 23:39 |
| dashua | Ok | 23:40 |
| dashua | I'm wondering if I should stay with the pixmap engine for the scrollbars? It's just so much faster when scrolling. | 23:42 |
| dashua | Than the engines scrollbars itself. | 23:43 |
| SiDi | dunno ^^ | 23:44 |
| dashua | I can make a round scrollbar with murrine, its just slow. | 23:45 |
| SiDi | what if you do it with the pixmap engine then ? | 23:47 |
| SiDi | i really don't know much about engines | 23:47 |
| dashua | Yeah, I will probably stay with the pixma engine for the scrollbars. | 23:55 |
| dashua | Murrine is for everything else. | 23:55 |
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