| brian___ | hey everyone, having a problem installing ubuntu via wubi - can someone help? | 00:20 |
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| brian___ | when i go to run wubi on an older xp machine, i get the following error message: "this application has failed to start. reinstalling the application may fix this problem." any ideas how to get around this? | 00:21 |
| flower | hi, is it possible to ad d-i to an already finished ubuntu live-cd? | 12:22 |
| flower | it's an custom live-cd made by live-helper | 12:25 |
| flower | but live-helper doesn't support adding d-i to ubuntu live cd's atm | 12:25 |
| flower | so I'm searching for an other way to do it... | 12:25 |
| flower | would be better if it's was possible with live-helper, but that doesn't be the case right now | 12:26 |
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| persia | flower, live-helper isn't really well supported in Ubuntu. | 12:45 |
| persia | The recommended way to handle live installation is through the use of ubiquity. | 12:45 |
| persia | And adding handling for new d-i components in ubiquity must be done before building ubiquity (it involves code changes), and so is a little complicated to add to an already-constructed live-cd. | 12:47 |
| flower | persia: I know, but I know how to work with live-helper so I thought let's use it... | 12:47 |
| flower | mmhhh | 12:47 |
| persia | flower, I can understand that viewpoint: as much as anything, I'm just warning you that you may not find much support for it here. | 12:47 |
| flower | persia: ok... | 12:48 |
| flower | persia: which tool do you recommend to build an ubuntu-live cd? | 12:48 |
| persia | I use debian-cd. | 12:49 |
| persia | (as does the Ubuntu CD image build server) | 12:49 |
| flower | persia: does it have good documentation? | 12:49 |
| flower | persia: easy to use? | 12:49 |
| persia | Well, that kinda depends on how well you read makefiles :) | 12:49 |
| persia | I think it's easy to develop against, but I'm not as convinced it's easy to use. | 12:50 |
| flower | are there other options? | 12:50 |
| persia | I don't know of any. | 12:51 |
| persia | What's your goal? | 12:51 |
| flower | build an distro based on hardy. for making music, easy to use... | 12:52 |
| flower | distribute it to people | 12:52 |
| persia | Are you familiar with the Ubuntu Studio project? | 12:53 |
| flower | yes | 12:54 |
| persia | I'm excessively biased, but I'd encourage you to join forces with them. | 12:55 |
| persia | The main argument against having a liveCD for that was that the performance for most audio generation applications in a liveCD environment was unacceptable. | 12:55 |
| flower | yeah a live-cd should have to goal to make a 'preview' able, not to use it as live cd for music production.... | 12:56 |
| persia | Right. But if you just want to do a liveCD based on hardy, and want to do something beyond that available through preseeding, I'd suggest you'd want to look at casper, ubiquity, livecd-rootfs, and debian-cd. | 12:57 |
| flower | ok | 12:58 |
| flower | 4 different tools? | 13:01 |
| flower | is there some documentation how to make such an cd? | 13:02 |
| flower | (btw I'm building packages for Debian Multimedia Team, so Ubuntu Studio will benefit from that too ;) ) | 13:02 |
| persia | I don't know of any specific documentation on how to make such a CD. I mostly gathered what I know about it from reading the code and examining existing CDs. | 13:04 |
| persia | (well, and making mistakes, and finding the related bugs) | 13:05 |
| flower | ok thanks... I'll check it out | 13:13 |
| flower | persia: is there an ubuntu list or irc which can give some support on the tools? | 13:17 |
| persia | Sure. This is the right channel to ask about any of those, or ubuntu-installer@lists.ubuntu.com | 13:21 |
| persia | Or at least I think so. I've gotten some support here, although people are busy, so sometimes it takes a while. | 13:22 |
| flower | ok thanks for your time then ;) | 13:24 |
| persia | No problem. I'm happy to help, but I'm not much of an expert. | 13:27 |
| flower | persia: debian-cd seems to pretty much focused on debian right? How to use it for ubuntu in a good way? | 15:39 |
| flower | persia: btw I found this documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch | 15:40 |
| flower | but that doesnt use debian-cd. | 15:40 |
| persia | That article is about customisation. | 15:41 |
| persia | The documentation for debian-cd is very debian-centric, but the version of debian-cd available in Ubuntu is used to build the live images for Ubuntu. | 15:41 |
| flower | but in /usr/share/debian-cd itś only debian... | 15:42 |
| flower | also on Ubuntu | 15:42 |
| flower | maybe there are some example debian-cd configuration for ubuntu cd's? | 15:44 |
| flower | btw do you use this documentation for debian-cd? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD | 15:46 |
| flower | persia: ? ^ | 16:03 |
| persia | I just use the code as documentation (which is part of why I get it wrong sometimes). | 16:04 |
| persia | The ubuntu-cdimage package has some examples of building CDs, although I don't know how well they work. Most of my experience comes from making patches and others actually doing the CD builds. | 16:05 |
| persia | Or just little changes, like the contents of a preseed file and the like. | 16:05 |
| persia | I don't mean to be unhelpful: it's just that I'm not the best person to answer your questions. | 16:05 |
| persia | From what I've heard from others, ubuntu-cdimage is too heavy to use for single image builds, but it may provide hints to tell you want to run to use debian-cd. | 16:07 |
| flower | ubuntu-cdimage, can't find it on hardy? :/ | 16:07 |
| persia | hrm? | 16:11 |
| persia | Oh, it's not a package, apparently. bzr branch lp:ubuntu-cdimage | 16:11 |
| persia | Sorry for the confusion. | 16:12 |
| persia | Or hum. | 16:13 |
| persia | I am doing badly tonight (and should probably go to bed). See https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-cdimage | 16:13 |
| flower | ah ok | 16:15 |
| flower | persia: can you use packages from other repos using debian-cd? | 16:16 |
| flower | persia: custom repo s | 16:17 |
| corecode | hey | 17:11 |
| corecode | i was wondering how i could use the guided_size preseed setting | 17:11 |
| corecode | didn't seem to work for me | 17:11 |
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| cjwatson | corecode: can you give me an example of what you tried (ideally, a full preseed file)? | 23:14 |
| cjwatson | corecode: oh, also, try adding the DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer boot parameter, and then send me the resulting installer syslog | 23:14 |
| * cjwatson -> bed | 23:19 | |
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