YokoZar | So, it seems like the -virtual kernel is actually the -server kernel in disguise https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/307924 -- my friend has linux-image-virtual and uname -a gives: 2.6.28-11-server #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 02:48:10 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux | 04:45 |
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ubot3 | YokoZar: Error: Could not parse data returned by Malone: The read operation timed out | 04:46 |
cooloney | YokoZar, do you mean bug 307924 | 04:48 |
ubot3 | Malone bug 307924 in linux-meta "linux-image-2.6.27(-7)-virtual contains server kernel ..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307924 | 04:48 |
YokoZar | Yes, it appears it's still live in the released Jaunty | 04:49 |
YokoZar | He upgraded his 8.10 virtual server to 9.04 and now it has the server kernel | 04:49 |
YokoZar | http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/linux-image-virtual --- if you follow that into the current numbered linux-kernel package and do list files you'll see how they're all misnamed | 04:50 |
YokoZar | http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/amd64/linux-image-2.6.28-11-virtual/filelist | 04:53 |
cooloney | YokoZar, actually, -virtual flavor was removed since Intrepid 810 | 05:30 |
cooloney | YokoZar, so since Intrepid 810, we use server image for virtual usage | 05:31 |
YokoZar | cooloney: shouldn't the -virtual metapackage have been dropped then? | 05:31 |
YokoZar | and automatically shifted to -server? | 05:31 |
YokoZar | Or is there another reason for keeping the metapackage around? (LTS to LTS update?) | 05:32 |
cooloney | YokoZar, i am not sure, but I will ping other guys in kernel team who know this issue | 05:32 |
cooloney | YokoZar, linux-meta contains lots of packages which will be discussed in this Karmic UDS | 05:33 |
cooloney | some of them might be dropped in the Karmic | 05:33 |
YokoZar | ok that makes sense | 05:34 |
YokoZar | The bigger problem is that the package description for the -virtual doesn't show that it doesn't exist anymore | 05:34 |
YokoZar | eg apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.28-11-virtual | 05:34 |
cooloney | YokoZar, i agree, that is very confusing | 05:39 |
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soren | cooloney, YokoZar: The virtual and server kernels were always almost identical. The only difference was the selection of included modules. In Intrepid we took the natural consequence of that and made the -virtual kernel package use the exact same kernel image, with a stack of modules filtered out. | 06:50 |
YokoZar | soren: that makes sense, although my friend got scared by possible breakages when he googled the issue and found that bug report | 06:50 |
YokoZar | if it were clear that -virtual was basically nothing special he might not have worried | 06:51 |
soren | I'll make a note on the bug. | 06:51 |
cooloney | soren, thanks, i understand that | 06:51 |
cooloney | soren, so for user space application such as xen-hypervisor-3.3, it is same as -server and -virtual? | 06:53 |
soren | cooloney: I'm not completely sure I understand the question, but I think the answer is "yes". | 06:59 |
cooloney | soren, since the kernel image is the same for both -server and -virtual, i guess user space application has no difference for this two flavors. | 07:01 |
soren | Usually, yes. | 07:02 |
cooloney | actually, IIRC, there is a bug for such application xen-hypervisor-3.3, they think we dropped -virtual flavor, which means ubuntu does not support virtual | 07:02 |
cooloney | with your help, i can answer that question now, i think | 07:03 |
soren | "they"? | 07:03 |
cooloney | the bug reporter | 07:03 |
cooloney | sorry, i fail to find the LP bug URL | 07:09 |
Z3ro3X | Is there a repo that will allow me to always have the latest stable kernel? | 07:27 |
YokoZar | Z3ro3X: define "stable" | 07:44 |
mnemo | FYI: this bug report indicates that jaunty probably carries a sauce patch that accidently forces swrast powerbook G4's machines... see discussion here --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/370200 and also this upstream bug --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21367 | 09:58 |
ubot3 | Malone bug 370200 in mesa "r300 on "PowerBook G4" mac: only swrast after booting and backgrounds render blue instead of black" [Undecided,New] | 09:58 |
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G__81 | hi everyone | 17:19 |
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manjo | ogasawara, ping | 18:39 |
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shadowland | I'm trying to run "make pdfdocs" on linux kernel directory, but it complains about not having passivetex, which doesn't seem to exist in repositories | 20:28 |
shadowland | Anyone know how to build the pdfdocs? | 20:28 |
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