[00:34] <dtchen> asac: are these the packages from jaunty-proposed or karmic? are you using the updated linux and pulseaudio packages?
[00:35] <dtchen> asac: also, as i've stated numerous times, pa needs a freeze exception similar to the desktop packages - if ubuntu continues to carry its featurefreeze date as is, the distribution will always suffer from crappy one-release-prior-to-upstream's-recommended problems
[00:36] <dtchen> asac: also, which errors are triggering? are you using the default conffiles? where's the -vv log
[00:42] <pace_t_zulu> anyone here familiar with building Chromium on Ubuntu?
[00:42] <dtchen> i'v already provided the uri in -devel
[00:44] <pace_t_zulu> dtchen: thank you
[09:53] <asac> dtchen: ok. so when was the pulse upstream version released for which you would have needed a freeze exception?
[10:41] <asac> hmm
[10:41] <asac> so are users in dip group or not?
[10:42] <BUGabundo> asac: whats dip?
[10:42] <asac> BUGabundo: please run groupps
[10:42] <asac> groups
[10:42] <asac> and paste what it gives ;)
[10:42] <BUGabundo> cant... i'm on win grrr
[10:42] <asac> heh
[10:42] <BUGabundo> let me see if portableuuntuntu is installed
[10:44] <BUGabundo> ohh the guy still hasnt made a jauty version as he promised he would
[10:44] <BUGabundo> there i'll go dist-upgrading from hardy to karmic _again_
[11:58] <gnomefreak> i need a music site with free downloads
[12:02] <BUGabundo> i used one the other day gnomefreak
[12:02] <BUGabundo> not on my PC now, cant recall link
[12:02] <gnomefreak> ok ill keep looking thanks
[12:14] <gnomefreak> does limewire let you download normal format or only mp3 (i think normal is acc but cant remember
[12:14]  * asac lunch time 
[12:15] <gnomefreak> good eating
[12:17] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: whats "normal" ?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> acc i think (whatever cd format is
[12:19] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: CD is cdaudio...
[12:20] <BUGabundo> when u rip it u choose the format
[12:20] <BUGabundo> acc, ogg, mp3, wave
[12:20] <BUGabundo> etc
[12:20] <gnomefreak> yeah i have it set to mp3 but i would love to make a cd that my car radio can play
[12:21] <BUGabundo> ahh
[12:21] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: then your prob is the other way around
[12:21] <gnomefreak> what do you mean?
[12:21] <BUGabundo> u need to record the files into CD Audio, when u want it to read them
[12:28] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: is it a choice whne you go to rip it?
[12:31] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: its the other way around! LOL
[12:31] <gnomefreak> i have to download that format?
[12:31] <BUGabundo> pretty much any format u rip it, can latter be put into AudioCD
[12:31] <BUGabundo> with more or less data loss
[13:22] <gnomefreak> did i happen to say what somgs i wanted?
[13:55] <asac> Jazzva: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=491120 ... new patch available ... we probably want to replace ours - maybe it starts to work again then
[14:09] <gnomefreak> asac: is there a shutdown log?
[14:10] <asac> gnomefreak: i dont know ;)
[14:10] <asac> gnomefreak: i think syslog
[14:10] <asac> prints something during shutdown
[14:10] <asac> but the console stuff maybe not
[14:10] <asac> maybe messages
[14:10] <asac> or kern.log
[14:10] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks i need to figure out what is causing this and i really dont want to reinstall
[14:11] <Jazzva> asac: ok, I'll upload it
[14:12] <asac> Jazzva: good. thanks!
[14:12] <asac> Jazzva: maybe do a quick test spin ;)
[14:12] <Jazzva> asac: no problem :)
[14:13] <gnomefreak> it seems like the kernal log is right place but we will see
[14:17] <gnomefreak> well shit
[14:18] <gnomefreak> asac: have you ever seen something like this bug 370305
[14:18] <gnomefreak> it seems the numbers change every shutdown
[14:22] <gnomefreak> the bug scared him too ;)
[14:25] <gnomefreak> oh wonderful, i really need someone who knows what they need to ask for this bug :(
[14:27]  * gnomefreak bets this is kernel issue with .30
[15:01] <aaronwinborn> after sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and selecting firefox 3.5, i'm still getting 3.0 launched from links inside thunderbird. how can i fix that?
[15:01] <aaronwinborn> and from quassel, it's selecting konqueror
[15:01] <gnomefreak> tar.gz is compressed right?
[15:02] <aaronwinborn> yes gnomefreak
[15:02] <aaronwinborn> twice over
[15:02] <gnomefreak> aaronwinborn: thanks
[15:03] <asac> aaronwinborn: thunderbird with gnome-support takes the app to start from gnome preferred apps setting
[15:03] <asac> GNOME -> menu -> preferences -> preferred applications
[15:03] <aaronwinborn> asac: i'm using kubuntu
[15:03] <asac> doesnt matter
[15:03] <asac> if you have gnome stuff installed
[15:03] <asac> it will use gconf setting
[15:04] <asac> otherwise it depends on how you configured your browser previously
[15:04] <asac> e.g. did you edit thunderbird prefs in the config editor?
[15:04] <aaronwinborn> i don't have 'preferences' in my menu, and no 'preferred applications' anywhere in any of the menus that i'm aware of
[15:04] <aaronwinborn> hmmm
[15:04] <asac> aaronwinborn: well. log into gnome to change it
[15:04] <aaronwinborn> i've been through 4 or 5 updates, no idea if i did that earlier
[15:05] <asac> aaronwinborn: dpkg -l thunderbird\*gnome-support
[15:05] <asac> if thats installed remove it
[15:05] <asac> if its not installed, then you have setup your stuff in advanced config editor of thunderbird
[15:05] <asac> search for http there
[15:05] <asac> and i guess you will find that it just calls "firefox"
[15:05] <aaronwinborn> $ dpkg -l thunderbird/*gnome-support
[15:05] <aaronwinborn> No packages found matching thunderbird/*gnome-support.
[15:05] <asac> not x-www-browser
[15:05] <asac> aaronwinborn: typo
[15:06] <asac> just copy what i posted
[15:06] <aaronwinborn> oops
[15:07] <aaronwinborn> un  thunderbird-gnome-support               <none>                                  (no description available)
[15:07] <aaronwinborn> thanks asac, i'll look for advanced config editor for tbird then
[15:11] <asac> aaronwinborn: preferences -> advanced -> config editor ...
[15:11] <asac> search for "http"
[15:11] <aaronwinborn> yeah, i've done that, not seeing firefox in any of the resulting options
[15:12] <aaronwinborn> also just sorted by value and don't see that there either
[15:17] <gnomefreak> did you try update-alternatives yet? also IIRC in the menu editor for KDE there is a prefered apps. menu item or its in the kde control center (cant remember what it is called
[15:17] <aaronwinborn> gnomefreak: yes, that was the first thing i did: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser and selecting firefox 3.5
[15:17] <gnomefreak> asac: this problem would be handled with QT support but as i understand mozilla is dragging their feet or stoped working on it all together
[15:18] <aaronwinborn> gnomefreak: thunderbird still launches 3.0, and quassel irc launches konquerer
[15:18] <aaronwinborn> i didn't see preferred apps
[15:18] <aaronwinborn> but there is some kind of sys config menu item, i'll look for that
[15:19] <gnomefreak> there is more htan one browser alternative as i recall maybe try setting those as well?
[15:21] <gnomefreak> asac: we cant add full QT support for FF and/or thunderbird?
[15:22] <gnomefreak> aaronwinborn: a ton of people suffer from this so if you find a setting to change let us know and we can update master bug at least i think we have a master bug
[15:29] <aaronwinborn> gnomefreak: still no good. i've done update-alternatives (that lists konq, ff 3.0, and 3.5; i selected the third), then system settings & overrode its default handling to launch 3.5, and i've scanned through advanced config editor and can't even find an option listed there to override (that has firefox or some easily intuited setting name)
[15:29] <aaronwinborn> gnomefreak: each time, i closed and reopened thunderbird. is it possible i need to log out and back in again?
[15:30] <aaronwinborn> s/that has firefox/that has firefox as a value/
[15:30] <gnomefreak> aaronwinborn: maybe, you went in the advanced config options in thunderbird right?
[15:30] <aaronwinborn> yes, but i'm not sure what option to override there
[15:31] <gnomefreak> im assuming that when you said that it was tbird not ff
[15:31] <gnomefreak> what version of tbird?
[15:32] <gnomefreak> why the hell is the tarball bigger than the file :(
[16:42] <Jazzva> asac: btw, since prism patch is committed to the tree, won't the bot pull it in when it grabs a new revision from upstream?
[16:44] <Jazzva> asac: and it's still not working for me (but it's building)... also, i removed prism, and it's still showing up in the add-ons as a system-wide extension. i think my system is also buggy :)
[16:49] <jmehdi> Hi, I'd like to build a deb package for a Firefox theme, where can I find a how-to?
[16:53] <asac> Jazzva: is it committed?
[16:54] <asac> a few hours agao it waited for review
[16:54] <Jazzva> jmehdi: check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions , packaging section. I suppose that should work
[16:54] <asac> yeah. that should work
[16:54] <Jazzva> asac: yes. Sorry, a few hours ago I was working on this school stuff :(
[16:54] <asac> Jazzva: so now its committed?
[16:54] <asac> if so it will get pulled in
[16:55] <Jazzva> asac: yes. I increased the version to -0ubuntu2, so the bot should register a change
[16:55] <Jazzva> asac: it will get pulled in... our patch, or new revision from upstream?
[16:58] <Jazzva> asac: https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/prism/prism , the new rev should be visible soon
[17:00] <Jazzva> asac: also, I tested prism in a clean profile, not working with the new patch... brb, late lunch
[17:07] <asac> Jazzva: pfft
[17:07] <asac> so they have a broken trunk?
[17:09] <asac> Jazzva: did you see: bug 371640
[17:10] <asac> thats why our ppa now has severe hick-ups as it seems
[17:10] <asac> aaronwinborn: so did you figure the confit editor ... thing?`
[17:10] <asac> config
[17:45] <aaronwinborn> asac: no, haven't yet. still up against a brick wall there; not sure what setting in advanced config to change to have tbird open ff 3.5 rather than 3.0
[17:49] <Jazzva> asac: no, I haven't seen that bug until now
[18:00] <asac> aaronwinborn: have you searched for http?
[18:03] <aaronwinborn> asac: yes, it comes up w/ about 25 settings starting with network.http.*, none of which have anything other than boolean or number values
[18:04] <aaronwinborn> except network.http.accept.default: text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
[18:10] <asac> armin76: there is one with "handler"
[18:11] <asac> aaronwinborn: ^^
[18:11] <asac> let me check
[18:12] <asac> aaronwinborn: network.protocol-handler.app.http
[18:12] <asac> like that?
[18:13] <aaronwinborn> asac: no
[18:14] <aaronwinborn> network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http
[18:18] <asac> aaronwinborn: any extension installed?
[18:19] <asac> that does the launch/with firefox thing?
[18:19] <asac> otherwise its a mystery why it starts a browser at all
[18:19] <asac> anyway, out to buy some stocks ;)
[18:19] <aaronwinborn> not as far as i know
[18:19] <aaronwinborn> thanks for the help, asac
[18:20] <asac> aaronwinborn: oh. maybe check if gnome-www-browser alternative exists
[18:20] <asac> maybe thats used somehow
[18:23] <aaronwinborn> no
[18:28] <aaronwinborn> i tried creating user.js as outlined in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-90475.html and that doesn't work either
[19:23] <asac> dtchen: so the -proposed package is good so far
[19:23] <asac> dtchen: so this upload was blocked on user-space side due to freeze exception issues or on linux side?
[19:23] <asac> if its userspace side we certainly should get freeze exception process ready next time
[19:24] <asac> what time frame are we talking aobut?
[19:24] <asac> e.g. when did upstream release vs. when did we release?
[22:59] <dtchen> asac: 0.9.15 was released on 13 apr. the upload was blocked due to FF and thus not attempted. keep in mind that fedora carries the upstream version, and that themuso/luke had been tracking 0.9.15-rcX in his ppa for a couple months.
[22:59] <dtchen> asac: another very important component is alsa-lib 1.0.19, which was released on 19 jan
[23:01] <dtchen> asac: however, there has been concern that mismatched alsa-lib and alsa-kernel versions will present problems
[23:01] <BUGabundo> dtchen: so what do you have on karmic now?
[23:01] <dtchen> asac: in practice, few people have experienced problems with older alsa-kernel matched with newer alsa-lib
[23:01] <dtchen> BUGabundo: precisely what jaunty has
[23:02] <BUGabundo> oh
[23:02] <BUGabundo> dtchen: when do expect to package new stuff to break my system ;) ?
[23:02] <dtchen> the audio stack will be resynced very soon with updated versions
[23:02] <dtchen> no ETA; i'm traveling for work, luke's busy, though rest assured breakage is on the horizon
[23:03] <BUGabundo> eheh
[23:03] <BUGabundo> great
[23:03] <BUGabundo> can't wait for it
[23:22] <dtchen> luke will be merging 0.9.15 RSN
[23:23] <BUGabundo> RSN ?
[23:23] <dtchen> real soon now - in a matter of hours
[23:23] <BUGabundo> ahh
[23:23] <BUGabundo> ohh tomorrow will be trouble day