[00:01] <carlis> yes, I have installed xubuntu completely and don`t have connection to the wifi
[00:01] <vidd> did you install from the alt cd or mini iso instead of the live cd like i told you would fix all this?
[00:01] <Balrog_> vidd: nothing prints even with e2ps
[00:02] <vidd> Balrog_, you need to restart cups
[00:02] <carlis> I have installed it fro usb stick
[00:03] <vidd> carlis, the installer would have had you set up your keyboard during the install
[00:04] <carlis> I already fixed the keyboard
[00:04] <carlis> and now I want to fix the connection to internet
[00:05] <vidd> are you near the desktop?
[00:05] <carlis> The 2 pcs show me a white x
[00:05] <carlis> yes
[00:05] <carlis> I am near the desktop
[00:06] <vidd> right-click and choose :edit connection"
[00:06] <carlis> ok
[00:06] <carlis> and then ?
[00:06] <vidd> click the wifi tab
[00:06] <carlis> ok
[00:07] <Balrog_> vidd: restarted cups and nothing happend after trying to print
[00:07] <vidd> what is there?
[00:07] <carlis> nothing
[00:07] <vidd> Balrog_, then im out of ideas
[00:07] <carlis> it`s empty
[00:07] <vidd> carlis, hit "add"
[00:07] <carlis> ok
[00:07] <SiDi> Balrog_: evince sucks for printing. Honnestly
[00:08] <SiDi> last time i tried to print from evince, the images on my pdf were going all black
[00:08] <Balrog_> SiDi: should I use xpdf? All I want to do is print PDF files
[00:08] <SiDi> you can try it, yeh
[00:09] <carlis> vidd ??
[00:09] <carlis> and then n?
[00:09] <carlis> vidd and then ?
[00:10] <SiDi> Balrog_: also a reason why it wouldnt _try_ to print is that its specifically designed for gnome
[00:10] <SiDi> Balrog_: it might want to contact some gnome daemon in order to launch the print, and that'd explain why it doesn't answer
[00:11] <SiDi> Balrog_: do you have libgnomecups1.0-1 installed ?
[00:12] <Balrog_> SiDi: yes.
[00:12] <SiDi> Run system-config-printer, do you see your printer ?
[00:13] <Balrog_> I can print from Firefox
[00:13] <Balrog_> yes, it's there
[00:13] <anzo> hey all, dealing with a ubuntu issue concerning video display on a dell x200 laptop. Wondering if some one would be willing to help?
[00:13]  * vidd lost power
[00:13] <anzo> sorry xubuntu*
[00:14] <vidd> carlis, you good now with wifi?
[00:14] <Balrog_> SiDi: any ideas?
[00:15] <satansaunt> where's the best place for me to find icons?
[00:16] <SiDi> Balrog_: no :/ probably a missing gnome daemon required by evince
[00:16] <carlis> u said me to hit in the add button and now what do i do  ??
[00:16] <Balrog_> any logs to look at?
[00:16] <SiDi> anzo: what graphic card does ithave ?
[00:16] <anzo> its an 830MG
[00:16] <anzo> intel card...
[00:17] <vidd> carlis, enter your wifi info =\
[00:17] <SiDi> and also, is it a network, or a regular laptop ?
[00:17]  * vidd would think that was rather obvious
[00:17] <SiDi> anzo: what xubuntu version, then ? Xubuntu 9.04 has a recent version of Xorg, and there are no intel drivers for all cards yet.
[00:17] <SiDi> anzo: i meant a netbook * not a network :P
[00:17] <SiDi> Balrog_: aybe .xsession-errors
[00:17] <anzo> i had black screens with 9.04 so i went back to 8.10
[00:18] <carlis> I have to enter ssid.  how do i get it vidd ??
[00:18] <anzo> its not a net book its to old its an pentium III at 800mhz
[00:18] <vidd> carlis, are you really this way?????
[00:18] <SiDi> anzo the problem is newest distros probably dont ship the driver on the CD anymore
[00:19] <vidd> you cantr remember something i told you less the 4 hours ago?
[00:19] <SiDi> anzo: i can't help you on this, though, i really dont know much about intel cards :/
[00:19] <anzo> ok how do i go about getting driver
[00:19] <carlis> This is difficult
[00:19] <carlis> I have to enter the ssid and I don`t know it
[00:19] <vidd> right-click on you wifi connection in windows, choose "network list" and LOOK AT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:20] <anzo> cause i have configed xorg to keep cursor but i keep getting artifacting and weird charter blocks
[00:20] <vidd> you had to do all this to get wifi to work in windows
[00:20] <R1cochet> i just got done w/ upgrade and now wine sub menu has disappeared
[00:21] <carlis> ok
[00:21] <vidd> R1cochet, you need to re-install wine maybe?
[00:21] <R1cochet> well im running utorrent right now
[00:22] <vidd> R1cochet, i dont use wine so im kinda reaching in the blind here =]
[00:22] <R1cochet> all good
[00:22] <R1cochet> thank you
[00:22] <SiDi> anzo: you'll have to play with xorg.conf apparently :/
[00:23] <vidd> carlis, you find out what your ssid is yet?
[00:23] <R1cochet> does 9.04 have a menu editor? o cant find it
[00:23] <SiDi> R1cochet: it doesnt
[00:23] <vidd> R1cochet, i cnt find it either
[00:23] <carlis> yes, I have found it
[00:23] <vidd> SiDi, YET ANOTHER BASIC FUNCTION DOWN THE DRAIN!!!!
[00:24] <R1cochet> is there one out there?
[00:24] <vidd> carlis, so ya good now?
[00:24] <SiDi> anzo: google translate this page : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=309238
[00:24] <SiDi> anzo: this is a post from the french forums with people who tried different xorg options for their intel cards.
[00:25] <carlis> no, I have to write bssid now. what do i have to write there ?
[00:25] <SiDi> vidd: the menu has been completely rewritten, they didnt have the time for the editor
[00:25] <SiDi> carlis: bssid is optional, pass on
[00:25] <J_Litewski> what is the best license to publish a programwith?
[00:25] <R1cochet> is there a way to get "switch user" back in the log out screen?
[00:26] <vidd> SiDi, fortunantly, the old hacked menu warks just fine
[00:26] <SiDi> J_Litewski: depends :) i publish under GPL3, unless i really dont care then public domain
[00:26] <vidd> R1cochet, you just want EVERYTHING!
[00:26] <R1cochet> well yea
[00:26] <zerothis> J_Litewski: Any FSF approved license
[00:26] <R1cochet> Laughing Out Loud
[00:26] <J_Litewski> ah
[00:26] <R1cochet> then is there a way to switch user through terminal
[00:26] <vidd> J_Litewski, that is not necssesarily tru....
[00:27] <SiDi> J_Litewski: if you really want freedom you may prefer BSD to LGPL, but thats technical sides :P Also, CECILL is compatible with GPL but better for some specific countries' legislation
[00:27] <vidd> it all depends on what rights you want to pass along to the "next guy"
[00:27] <zerothis> actually, public domain lets people do evil things with your code. its a small risk
[00:27] <carlis> vidd ?
[00:27] <carlis> what do i do now ??
[00:27] <vidd> you fill in the info, and save
[00:27] <vidd> thats it
[00:28] <vidd> oh...and enjoy using the internet
[00:28] <carlis> I know but what do i have write in bssid ????
[00:28] <Balrog_> print preview doesn't work either
[00:28] <vidd> i distinctly recall you having been told to leave it blank
[00:29] <carlis> ok
[00:29] <SiDi> Balrog_: throw evince in a trash ben ;P
[00:29] <SiDi> good night people
[00:29] <carlis> what else do i have to write ??
[00:29] <carlis> I have these field:
[00:29] <vidd> do you have encryption set up?
[00:29] <J_Litewski> whats the difference between GPL and LGPL?
[00:30] <carlis> Mac address
[00:30] <vidd> leave it
[00:30] <carlis> ok
[00:30] <carlis> the ok button is not enable
[00:31] <vidd> ill ask the question again.....
[00:31] <vidd> do you have encryption set up on the router?
[00:32] <carlis> yes
[00:32] <vidd> what kind of encryption?
[00:32] <carlis> wait
[00:33] <carlis> WPA2-Personal
[00:33] <vidd> ok...go to the security tab
[00:34] <vidd> fill in the security stuff
[00:34] <carlis> ok
[00:34] <vidd> hit apply
[00:36] <vidd> i swear...these tools are very simple
[00:36] <vidd> did you set this up in a language other then your native language?
[00:37] <Balrog_> xpdf won't print either
[00:37] <carlis> vidd the ok button is not enable
[00:37] <vidd> carlis, you good now?
[00:38] <J_Litewski> carlis, is it WPA2-PSK?
[00:38] <vidd> there shouldnt BE an ok button!
[00:38] <vidd> J_Litewski, wpa + Personal Shre Key
[00:38] <J_Litewski> right, i know
[00:38] <J_Litewski> i run it
[00:39] <vidd> oh...you asked if he HAD it....not WHAT is it
[00:39] <vidd> my bad
[00:39] <carlis> its difficult
[00:39] <carlis> the ok button is  not enable
[00:40] <J_Litewski> vidd, np
[00:40] <vidd> carlis, how difficult can it be to answer the man's question?
[00:40] <vidd> is it Personal share key or not?
[00:40] <carlis> I donpt understand
[00:41] <vidd> J_Litewski, my lappy lost power so i have to ssh into my server to run xchat...and the text is god-aweful to read!
[00:41] <J_Litewski> is it WPA2 (with a STUN server) or WPA2-PSK (with a password)
[00:41] <carlis> it´s WPA & WPA2 Personal
[00:41] <vidd> carlis, your wpa personal ....is it shared key or is it password or is it passphrase?
[00:42] <vidd> what is your native language....ill google translate everything!
[00:42] <carlis> It´s has password. I already wrote it
[00:42] <J_Litewski> so it's WPA2-PSK
[00:43] <vidd> J_Litewski, i use wap with mac filtering....is there something i dont know about with wpa?
[00:43] <vidd> *wep
[00:44] <vidd> carlis, on the wireless tab.....which mode did you choose?
[00:44] <carlis> ok
[00:44] <carlis> what do i do now ??
[00:45] <carlis> Infrastructure
[00:45] <vidd> so ssid is entered,, and mode = infrastructure....
[00:45] <anzo> Sidi, sorry about the delay someone needed my comp. The link you set me seems to direct itself towards kubuntu and i am running xubuntu. Does this create config issues? Also they are trying to config much new cards....
[00:45] <vidd> MTU = auto
[00:46] <carlis> yes
[00:46] <ochosi> anzo, SiDi is long gone
[00:46] <ochosi> anzo, well, ok, not *long*, but a while :)
[00:46] <anzo> crap-o thanks to
[00:46] <anzo> tho*
[00:46] <vidd> carlis, you have 8 or more charcters in your password?
[00:47] <carlis> wait please
[00:47] <vidd> your wifi security password of course
[00:47] <carlis> more thant 8 characters
[00:47] <vidd> put a check in the box for "show password" so you can make sure the password is correct
[00:48] <carlis> ok
[00:48] <carlis> it`s correct
[00:48] <vidd> is the password correct?
[00:48] <carlis> yes
[00:49] <vidd> ok...on to ipv4 settings....
[00:49] <vidd> is method auto or manual?
[00:49] <carlis> auto
[00:50] <vidd> then the apply button should be selectable
[00:51] <carlis> the ok button is not enable
[00:51] <carlis> wait
[00:51] <vidd-> then something is missing
[00:51] <Mikel> hey guys. I think that I've found a problem. Don't know if it's Xubuntu related or not.
[00:51] <J_Litewski> it's Apply
[00:51] <Mikel> let's say that I access "vi lala" from the terminal
[00:52] <Mikel> I close it with :q , and then I do a stat lala
[00:52] <J_Litewski> you need the SSID and the password and thats it
[00:52] <Mikel> mi last access time isn't updated
[00:52] <Mikel> any ideas?
[00:53] <carlis> The ok button wasn``t enalbe because I had information in BSID. I delete the info in BSSID the ok button is enable
[00:53] <vidd-> carlis, did we or did we NOT tell you to LEAVE THAT BLANK
[00:54] <carlis> sorry
[00:54] <zerothis> vidd seems to be yelling a lot lately
[00:54]  * vidd- is 6 kinds of aggitattde
[00:55] <carlis> vidd ???
[00:55] <vidd> carlis, welcome back
[00:56] <vidd> all well and good in the world?
[00:56] <carlis> no
[00:56] <carlis> and the i have to choose password for default keyring
[00:56] <carlis> what do i write there ?
[00:56] <vidd> you have a choice.....
[00:57] <vidd> you can leave it blank or you can but whatever you like there
[00:57] <vidd> *put
[00:58] <carlis> do i have to write a new password ?
[00:58] <vidd> carlis, what is your native speaking language?
[00:58] <carlis> spanish
[00:58] <vidd> its obviously not english
[00:59] <vidd> no neccesita esse
[00:59] <vidd> !spanish | carlis
[00:59] <carlis> I don`t get connection to internet
[01:00] <carlis> ok
[01:00] <zerothis> no #xubuntu-es? that sucks
[01:00] <carlis> I don`t still get connection vidd
[01:01] <carlis> what do i do now ?
[01:01] <vidd> zerothis, no #xubuntu-es, no free disks, no all kinds of other things
[01:01] <vidd> carlis, va #ubuntu-es por favor
[01:02] <carlis> I uderstand u vidd
[01:02] <carlis> I don`t get connection
[01:02] <vidd> can you understand that you are making me very agittated?
[01:04] <carlis> I don`t understand why I don`t get connection if I did everything u said me and didn`t work why ??
[01:04] <knome> carlis, please ask help in #ubuntu-es as we are unable to help you more.
[01:08] <carlis> I don`t get help in #xubuntu-es
[01:09] <carlis> vidd what else do i do ?
[01:09] <vidd> drop the 'x'
[01:09] <vidd> it is #ubuntu-es
[01:10] <knome> carlis, also if there is nobody available, you can try searchin the forums or wait to get help later.
[01:13] <Wunderbar> okay, is there a solution to to stop xubuntu from forgetting to activate my thinkpad volume buttons?
[01:13] <Wunderbar> what I found via google didn't rectify the problem
[01:13] <knome> Wunderbar, what do you have to do to get them activated then?
[01:14] <vidd> Wunderbar, xubuntu 9.04 killed auto-set volume control keys
[01:15] <carlis> vidd I have this message: Wireless network connection to u2k
[01:15] <Wunderbar> I have to go to 'sound' then select master
[01:15] <carlis> y2k
[01:15] <Wunderbar> and it works
[01:15] <Wunderbar> are you saying that there is no solution vidd?
[01:15] <vidd> Wunderbar, does that "fix"your keys? or just adjust the volume?
[01:16] <carlis> vidd the connectio is connected but don`t show me any page
[01:16] <Wunderbar> it allows me to adjust the volume
[01:16] <Wunderbar> using the keys
[01:16] <Wunderbar> until I have to restart, then I have to do the same thing all over again
[01:16] <Wunderbar> somewhat of a nuisance
[01:16] <vidd> you have more functionality then i do
[01:17] <Wunderbar> :(
[01:17] <carlis> vidd???
[01:17] <vidd> we need to find the applet used in 8.10 and get it back
[01:17] <Wunderbar> what was the reason given for killing the auto set volume keys option?
[01:18] <vidd> carlis, i told you....im done trying to help you
[01:18] <vidd> Wunderbar, they want the volume app to be pretty
[01:18] <Wunderbar> and unusable
[01:18] <DarkTan> how do i change the back ground color on my menus?
[01:18] <carlis> vidd the white x is not there
[01:19] <carlis> what do i do now ?
[01:19] <vidd> carlis, you ask someone besides me
[01:19] <knome> DarkTan, you need to tweak your gtk theme
[01:19] <knome> carlis, which white X?
[01:20] <DarkTan> wher do i go for that?
[01:20] <ochosi> Wunderbar, well, there are several workarounds. like using a script for that. or just setting the keys in the keyboard-shortcut-dialog
[01:20] <Wunderbar> I've tried the keyboard shortcut
[01:20] <Wunderbar> that definitely doesn't work for me
[01:20] <knome> DarkTan, i don't suggest doing it if you have little or no experience on it, it's not that trivial
[01:20] <knome> DarkTan, there is themes with dark menu backgrounds
[01:21] <DarkTan> I'm using the Xfce-dusk theme, everything is good except for the menus
[01:21] <DarkTan> light grey back ground with white fonts
[01:21] <ochosi> Wunderbar, what do you mean? i mean: be a bit more specific than "didn't work for me"
[01:21] <knome> DarkTan, /usr/share/themes/
[01:22] <Wunderbar> okay, it works for that session- but I have to do it all  over again when I restart/reboot
[01:22] <knome> DarkTan, you should find the theme there
[01:22] <DarkTan> okay
[01:22] <carlis> when don`t u get connection u have a white x
[01:22] <carlis> if u have connection don`t u see a white x
[01:22] <carlis> the pc say me I am connected and don`t show me anypage
[01:22] <knome> DarkTan, but as i said, it is *not* about just chaging one value. i've been there and it's a relatively big thing.
[01:22] <carlis> what do i do now vidd ??
[01:22] <carlis> ok
[01:23] <carlis> I have an idea
[01:23] <carlis> how do repair a connection in xubuntu ???
[01:23] <DarkTan> knome: well, i don't know much about it, but I'm a fairly good reverse engineer
[01:23] <Wunderbar> does anyone know of an icon set that's "high contrast inverse" but smaller?
[01:23] <knome> DarkTan, okies. the gtk theming spec is partly also freaky, so expect things that doesn't work as expected :)
[01:24] <ochosi> Wunderbar, you mean the keyboard shortcuts are getting lost?
[01:24] <ochosi> Wunderbar, or the mixer-settings?
[01:24] <knome> carlis, there is no "repair" in (x)ubuntu
[01:24] <Wunderbar> the keyboard shortcuts for volume
[01:25]  * vidd is away
[01:25] <Wunderbar> actually, that's not true- they are there- but they're ignored...
[01:25] <carlis> what else can i do knome ?
[01:26] <DarkTan> knome:  it looks a litte like a themexp file, i'll see what i can figure out
[01:26] <ochosi> Wunderbar, hm, i don't really get it. so you have to go to the shortcut-settings again on every reboot? i mean: are the shortcuts still in the list?
[01:26] <Wunderbar> yes, they're listed (correctly) but they're ignored
[01:26] <ochosi> Wunderbar, or to put it differently: how do you re-activate the shortcuts?
[01:26] <knome> DarkTan, sure. good luck and have fun! :)
[01:27] <Wunderbar> I re-enter them
[01:27] <Wunderbar> and magically they work
[01:27] <DarkTan> thankfull it's not this computer, just in case
[01:27] <Wunderbar> either in 'sound' or 'keyboard shortcuts'
[01:27] <carlis> vidd can u continiue help me ?
[01:27] <ochosi> Wunderbar, in "sound"?
[01:28] <Wunderbar> "enable sound and associate events"
[01:28] <Wunderbar> sound settings
[01:28] <carlis> u said me if I intall completely xubuntu i am going to get connection to internet and I didn`t get connection
[01:28] <ochosi> Wunderbar, what version of xfce are you using?
[01:28] <Wunderbar> latest
[01:28] <ochosi> Wunderbar, or xubuntu, if you like
[01:28] <ochosi> Wunderbar, so 4.6?
[01:28] <carlis> vidd ???
[01:29] <ochosi> Wunderbar, i'm using that too, but i don't even have sound settings :|
[01:29] <vidd> carlis, check the forums for getting your wifi card to work in ubuntu
[01:29] <ochosi> Wunderbar, how about other keyboard shortcuts? do they also stop working?
[01:29] <Wunderbar> nope, I'm using 4.4
[01:29] <vidd> do a google seaerch fo ryour card
[01:29] <ochosi> Wunderbar, so that's (by far) not the latest version
[01:29] <Wunderbar> I realise that
[01:30] <Wunderbar> I tried creating a shortcut for screenshots
[01:30] <Wunderbar> but that didn't work either
[01:30] <carlis> it´s difficukt
[01:30] <ochosi> Wunderbar, but when i asked you what version you're using you replied "latest"... :) anyways.
[01:30] <Wunderbar> actually it is 4.6
[01:30] <Wunderbar> just checked in 'about xfce'
[01:31] <Wunderbar> anyways, 4.4 was marginally better
[01:31] <ochosi> Wunderbar, wait a second, i mean the screenshooter-shortcut is set by default
[01:31] <carlis> is there another person to help me ????
[01:31] <Wunderbar> mine doesn't work
[01:31] <ochosi> Wunderbar, so you did an upgrade recently?
[01:32] <carlis> is there an expert here ?
[01:32] <Wunderbar> a few days ago
[01:32] <vidd> carlis, what is your wifi card again?
[01:32] <DarkTan> hmm...odd...not every menu has the same background color
[01:32] <ochosi> Wunderbar, just try to reset your shortcuts to default, reboot and re-enter them
[01:32] <knome> vidd, 22:33  carlis: Realtek Semiconductor  Corp. RTL8187B Wireless 802.11g
[01:32] <ochosi> Wunderbar, or instead of reboot you could also restart your session
[01:33] <Wunderbar> Ive done both of those
[01:33] <Wunderbar> I tend not to reboot
[01:33] <Wunderbar> but sometimes I have to boot into windows
[01:35] <ochosi> Wunderbar, well the shortcut-system has changed since 4.4 (which was part of the previous xubuntu-version) so it's not extremely unlikely that something was messed up during the upgrade
[01:35] <ochosi> Wunderbar, even though i've never heard of a problem like yours
[01:35] <Wunderbar> someone else told me the other day that they had the same problem
[01:35] <ochosi> Wunderbar, you can either: backup and do a clean install or: file a bug report
[01:35] <Wunderbar> clean install sounds like the way to go
[01:35] <Wunderbar> thanks for your help
[01:37] <carlis> did u find andything vidd ?
[01:37] <vidd> carlis, yeah....http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/usb-wireless-adapter-install-715516/
[01:38] <ochosi> Wunderbar, np
[01:39] <vidd> dmesg|grep rtl8187 gives you what carlis (and thats RTL - just lower-case)
[01:42] <vidd> ochosi, my linux is a clean install...and my sound keys wont work at all
[01:44] <anzo> vidd, what distro?
[01:44] <vidd> xubuntu 9.04
[01:44] <anzo> did you cofigure the audio
[01:44] <anzo> configure*
[01:44] <vidd> they auto-worked with the volume panel app since breezy
[01:44] <vidd> yeah
[01:45] <anzo> I only installed it briefly and then removed but i had to specify the device i wanted it to control
[01:46] <carlis> vidd how do i write vertical line ?
[01:46] <vidd> it looks like : only longer....
[01:47] <carlis> I have to write this dmesg|tail
[01:47] <vidd> on en keyboards, it usually just above the return key
[01:48] <vidd> possibly on the same key as \
[01:49] <vidd> you get it?
[01:53] <vidd> carlis, you good now?
[01:54] <genii> Alternately, copy and paste
[01:54] <vidd> genii, the computer he is working on has no internet atm
[01:55] <genii> Aah, OK
[01:56] <vidd> and now he's iggin me
[01:56] <vidd> maybe he's actually reading fosts
[01:57] <vidd> *posts
[01:57] <vidd> genii, were you the one that suggeted lfs?
[01:57] <genii> vidd: No
[01:58] <genii> Oh, wait. yes
[01:58] <genii> "LinuxFromScratch"
[01:58] <vidd> you are evil =]
[01:58] <vidd> i like it
[01:59] <genii> vidd: Hehe... I recommend it for people who want to know how linux works and what goes into making a simple distribution. If even only once for educational reasons
[01:59] <vidd> you know anything about rtl8187 wifi cards?
[02:00] <genii> Mine seems to work fine under 8.04 until it overheats
[02:00] <vidd> genii, you have to do anything special?
[02:01] <carlis> vidd I have to write this command dmesg|tail
[02:01] <carlis> wait
[02:02] <genii> vidd: Nope. Under 7.04 and 7.10 I had to do stuff like blacklist some drivers, but not with 8.04
[02:02] <vidd> carlis, genii says that card should "just work"
[02:02] <genii> carlis: On keyboard... next key after: TYUIOP{}
[02:03] <vidd> genii, he has a non-english (es) keyboard layout
[02:03] <genii> Damn, no idea then
[02:03] <vidd> me either
[02:04] <vidd> carlis, the key says "- -" .... only one on top the other...not side by side
[02:07] <carlis> ok
[02:09] <vidd> carlis, you get the right key now?
[02:12] <sl> I am running 9.04.  Using ntlmaps at work to get thru isa proxy, and it works great.  But when I take my laptop home I cannot use apt-get.  I stopped ntlmaps but still it does not work at home.  Do I have to uninstall ntlmaps?
[02:15] <vidd> sl do you use different connection types at home and at work?
[02:16] <sl> Yes at work I go wired connection
[02:16] <sl> Yes at work I go wired connection at home I use wireless
[02:17] <vidd> then you ***should*** be able to configure wireless to bybass ntlmaps
[02:17] <sl> Is that easy to do?
[02:18] <vidd> dunno....googling now
[02:19] <vidd> well...that seems simple.....
[02:19] <vidd> you have a wired box @home?
[02:20] <sl> I have an XP wired box I can use
[02:20] <vidd> i was thinking more along the lines of a server box....
[02:20] <sl> oh sorry, no I do not
[02:21] <vidd> cuzz you can configure that so you still proxy but to there, and it translates out to the world =]
[02:22] <sl> Maybe I could load one in a virtual box and use it that way?
[02:22] <sl> virutal box on another pc
[02:22] <vidd> pft...set up a proxybox on the lappy
[02:23] <vidd> ya dont neeed much
[02:23] <sl> I could do that
[02:23] <vidd> =]
[02:24] <vidd> it pays to think outside (or in this case,,,inside) the box
[02:24] <sl> I have only used xubuntu for a month.  When you say server are you talking like a debian server or something else?
[02:24] <vidd> i mean kernel, and the proxy translation
[02:24] <vidd> that should be it
[02:25] <vidd> run it inside a qemu, and you (should be) golden
[02:25] <sl> Sweet I will start that tonite.  Thank you very much for your time, it was very helpful
[02:26] <vidd> and with that, i bid all a good nite
[02:26] <sl> I'll let you know how it works out
[02:27] <sl> good nite
[02:27] <vidd> please do
[02:27] <carlis> vidd I am going to give u Connection information
[02:27] <carlis> Auto Y2K (default)
[02:28] <vidd> for what?
[02:28] <yuka_> i got 'pairing failed' with my earphone.  how do i troubleshoot this?
[02:29] <carlis> Interface: 802.11 Wifi (wlan0)
[02:29] <anzo> thats a bt issue
[02:29] <anzo> yuka, did you enter the right code to syc
[02:29] <yuka_> anzo: and 'hcitool scan' shows nothing.
[02:29] <yuka_> anzo: what is my code?
[02:29] <anzo> they are usually 0000 or 1234
[02:29] <yuka_> anzo: let me try
[02:30] <carlis> Driver: rtl8187
[02:30] <anzo> try and re sync (set device in discovery mode) and then launch search
[02:30] <vidd> carlis, i dont understand
[02:30] <carlis> what don`t u understand ?
[02:30] <vidd> what are you telling me?
[02:30] <vidd> wlan0 is your wifi connection
[02:31] <carlis> may be if i give u that info u canknow why my pc doesn`t get connection to internet
[02:31] <vidd> go into your router.....
[02:32] <vidd> does your router see your linux box?
[02:32] <anzo> quick question cause i dont wanna look it up: what package should i download to get flash working in firefox?
[02:32] <yuka_> anzo: i did 0000 and it found it, but failed again at the pairing.
[02:32] <carlis> ip address: 192.168.1.5
[02:32] <vidd> anzo, flashplugin-nonfree
[02:32] <anzo> ok what are the headphones?
[02:32] <yuka_> anzo: it also failes when i check the 'automatic pin selection' checkbox.
[02:33] <carlis> Broadcast Address: 192.168.1.255
[02:33] <anzo> No you dont want that it need the verify to make sure the device is what u want to connect to
[02:33] <yuka_> anzo: it's earphones for my mobile phone that i want to use for my laptop music.
[02:33] <anzo> thanks vidd
[02:33] <yuka_> anzo: (instead of the phone)
[02:33] <carlis> subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
[02:34] <carlis> Default route: 192.168.1.1
[02:34] <carlis> Primary DNS: 192.168.1.1
[02:34] <yuka_> anzo: is there a log file i can read to try figure it out?
[02:34] <carlis> is useful that info vidd ?
[02:35] <vidd> can you ping 192.168.1.1?
[02:35] <anzo> I am not sure about that, I am sure there is. But a fail to pair means that it isnt the right code or you didnt accept it on the device
[02:35] <carlis> wait
[02:35] <yuka_> anzo: i think it's ok now.
[02:36] <yuka_> anzo: i kept clicking on the device's pair button for longer.
[02:36] <carlis> Destination Host Unreachable
[02:37] <anzo> yah, here is how it works.... you need to set the device in to pair mode by either holding or click the buttons on it
[02:37] <anzo> then you need to search for it and when found choose pair
[02:37] <vidd> carlis, what IP address does your windows box have?
[02:37] <anzo> when it asks for code to join its going to be 1234 or 0000
[02:37] <anzo> i even had my jawbone require i answer the device like i had a call coming in before it would work
[02:37] <yuka_> anzo: now all audio will be send to my earphone?
[02:38] <carlis> 192.168.14
[02:38] <anzo> yes, however it might give you issues depending on the device when switching from use with computer to phone
[02:39] <vidd> can your windows box ping 192.168.1.1?
[02:39] <carlis> wait
[02:39] <anzo> understand yuka_ ?
[02:40] <carlis> yes, gets answer
[02:40] <vidd> can it ping 192.168.1.5?
[02:41] <carlis> in windows ?
[02:41] <vidd> yes...can windows ping your linux box
[02:44] <vidd> carlis, i have to leave to pick someone up from work
[02:44] <carlis> i receive answer
[02:44] <vidd> ok....
[02:44] <yuka_> anzo: yes. now i can't find the volume control on my panel...i just upgraded to 9.04
[02:44] <vidd> let me pick my buddy up...ill be back
[02:45] <carlis> ok vidd
[02:47] <yuka_> anzo: found it. i opened totem but i only hear the lapop speakers..nothing from the earphone.
[02:47] <anzo> tell it the devices you want it to use
[02:47] <yuka_> anzo: totem? opk
[02:48] <yuka_> anzo: ok
[02:48] <anzo> no, the os...
[02:48] <anzo> when you click the speaker it tells you what options you want it to control....
[02:49] <yuka_> i don't see the speaker icon on my panel so i added mixer add-in.
[02:50] <yuka_> when i cick on it i see dropdown that let's me choose my sound card.
[02:50] <anzo> Dude, i messed with it for like 10 min, i do know when i did the drop down tho that it gave me tons of options to control from the sound card
[02:51] <carlis> vidd did u get back ?
[02:53] <anzo> yuka_ get anywhere?
[03:10] <carlis> vidd r u here ??
[03:11] <yuka_> anzo: came back from lunch
[03:12] <anzo> you did? or are you asking?
[03:13] <yuka_> anzo: just ate. maybe i should find a way to bring back the original volume control on my panel?
[03:13] <anzo> I am not completely understanding what the problem is... its not pushing the audio through the bt cause your havent told xubuntu to use the bt as an audio device
[03:14] <yuka_> anzo: (-: and how do i do that?
[03:15] <anzo> there should be an option on the audio controller
[03:15] <yuka_> is it 'mixer' add-in or is it somewhere on the settings?
[03:17] <yuka_> anzo: i just don't see anything on my bottom panel.
[03:17] <anzo> it might be under options in audio settings
[03:17] <yuka_> anzo: maybe it's a bug with xubuntu, i don't know.
[03:17] <yuka_> anzo: ok, looking into it.
[03:17] <anzo> i am still using 8.10 so i dont know how to step you through it
[03:18] <yuka_> anzo: sure. this issue happend before i upgraded.
[03:18] <anzo> i dont understand
[03:19] <anzo> you upgraded because the bt wasnt working as audio out
[03:19] <carlis> How do i fix this: Destination Host Unreachable
[03:19] <carlis> who can help me ?
[03:19] <yuka_> anzo: where is the audio settings?
[03:19] <anzo> hold on
[03:19] <carlis> ok
[03:22] <anzo> here check this out yuka_ http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=67064
[03:23] <yuka_> anzo: i'll check it put. thanks
[03:23] <anzo> that provides a link to all the bt setup stuff for ubuntu
[03:24] <n2diy> carlis: what is your setup?
[03:27] <carlis> auto
[03:28]  * vidd is back
[03:34] <carlis> vidd the message is: destination host unreachable
[03:35] <vidd> so destination unreachable from windows to linux?
[03:36] <carlis> from linux
[03:36] <vidd> but windows CAN ping linux?
[03:37] <carlis> wait
[03:38] <carlis> yes
[03:39] <vidd> ok...reboot linux
[03:39] <vidd> while linux is OFF try to ping it
[03:40] <vidd> if you can still ping, then the two machines are not connecting to the same router
[03:42] <carlis> how do i do linux off ?
[03:43] <vidd> are you serious?
[03:43] <carlis> I am new in linux
[03:44] <vidd> are you new to computers too?
[03:45] <vidd> applications->log out->turn off
[03:45] <carlis> ok
[03:46] <carlis> how do i do ping witth linux off ?
[03:46] <carlis> the pc shut down
[03:46] <carlis> do i turn on the pc again ?
[03:46] <vidd> the same way you pinged linux from windows while linux was on
[03:47] <carlis> ok
[03:49] <vidd> so with linux off can windows still ping 192.168.1.5?
[03:50] <carlis> I already understood
[03:50] <vidd> and?
[03:50] <carlis> ait
[03:50] <carlis> wait
[03:52] <carlis> It´s the same issue
[03:52] <carlis> Linux is off and i get the same issue
[03:53] <vidd> if linux is off....how do you know you still have the issue?????
[03:53] <vidd> can windows ping 192.168.1.5?
[03:54] <carlis> I ping 192.168.1.5 in windows and it´s the same issue
[03:54] <vidd> ok...so windows can no longer ping 192,168.1.5
[03:55] <vidd> good....turn linux on
[03:59] <carlis> ok
[03:59] <carlis> and then vidd ?
[04:00] <Sinister> anyone know if you can remove all track numbers all at one time in banshee
[04:00] <vidd> run ifconfig in linux
[04:00] <carlis> ok
[04:01] <vidd> what is the ip address?
[04:01] <carlis> inet address ?
[04:01] <vidd> yes
[04:02] <carlis> 192.168.1.5
[04:02] <vidd> ok...can windows ping 192.168.1.5 now?
[04:03] <carlis> windows can`t
[04:03] <vidd> can linux ping 192.168.1.1?
[04:05] <carlis> no
[04:05] <vidd> then im at a loss
[04:06] <carlis> Destination Host Unreachable
[04:06] <vidd> it makes no sence that windows could ping b4 but cannot now
[04:07] <carlis> don`t u know how to fix this issue ?
[04:08] <carlis> the issue is with Destination Host Unreachable
[04:08] <vidd> not without laying hands on the equiptment
[04:09] <vidd> did you specify your ip address, or is it set for dhcp?
[04:09] <carlis> dhcp
[04:09] <vidd> if its set for dhcp, then you should not get an IP if you cannot reach the host
[04:11] <carlis> is there not more to do ?
[04:11] <vidd> not that i can do.....
[04:11] <carlis> vidd ?
[04:11] <vidd> i suggest you hit the forums and google
[04:12] <vidd> has this wifi card worked on you windows machine?
[04:12] <carlis> yes, with windows works
[04:13] <vidd> my only suggestion is to look on forums and google for more help
[04:13] <vidd> that card is supposed to work right out of the box
[04:13] <carlis> ok
[04:14] <carlis> Thank you very much for trying to help me Vidd
[04:14]  * vidd is going to bed
[04:14] <vidd> good nite all
[04:14] <carlis> I appreciate it
[04:15] <carlis> Bye vidd
[04:30] <yuka_> after upgrading i can't see wireless networks. iwconfig doesn't show ath0 interface anymore. any ideas?
[04:36] <anzo> yuka_ u still there?
[04:42] <yuka_> anzo: yes. now i have issue with my network interface.
[04:42] <anzo> yah i read that
[04:43] <anzo> i am trying to remember what i had to do when i had issues with my wireless. What is your wireless card?
[04:44] <yuka_> anzo: can i get this by running lspci?
[04:45] <anzo> Yah
[04:48] <yuka_> anzo: i think it's realtek. it worked before...
[04:49] <anzo> realtek, that would be an odd wireless card... what type of computer is it?
[04:50] <yuka_> iwconfig doesn't show ath0 interface anymore. any ideas?
[04:51] <yuka_> sorry, wrong channel..didn't mean to ask again.
[04:53] <anzo> give me a sec yuka
[04:57] <anzo> YUKA whats your computer model
[04:59] <yuka_> anzo: 1 minute..
[05:04] <yuka_> anzo: http://pastebin.com/m5810636e   this is the output of lspci -nn
[05:05] <minazo> Anyone ever try disabling their Touchpad on their laptop. Looks like synclient and/or syndaemon will do it but haven't found the right resource yet. I just won't if off. I never use it...it's annoying IMO.
[05:06] <minazo> The right resource on how to disable it, that is.
[05:07] <anzo> ok Yuka your wireless is Atheros Communications
[05:07] <anzo> the realtek is your hardwire
[05:15] <yuka_> anzo: ok.
[05:15] <yuka_> anzo: so how do i enable ath0 again?
[05:21] <anzo> you probably need to purge and reinstall
[05:23] <anzo> unless you just disabled it
[05:23] <yuka_> anzo: what do u mean by 'it'?
[05:23] <anzo> it is the wireless
[05:24] <anzo> wait, is your eithernet connection working or is your wireless working?
[05:24] <anzo> also what did you update? to 9.04?
[05:25] <yuka_> anzo: wireless is not working. not sure about wired. 9.04
[05:25] <anzo> how are you on the internt? most of the time wireless doesnt work out of the box but wired does
[05:26] <yuka_> anzo: on another machine
[05:27] <anzo> ok let me find a link
[05:33] <anzo> Hey Yuka_ here is a link that should help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885847&highlight=AR2413+install
[05:34] <anzo> I have to packup and head out might be on later, we will see.
[05:35] <yuka_> anzo: thanks, i'll follow this guide.
[05:36] <anzo> also here is one specifically on your card http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026972&highlight=AR2413+install
[05:36] <anzo> good luck night all
[05:36] <yuka_> anzo: night
[05:38] <R1cochet> just upgraded how can i be sure im using xine backend for totem and not gstreamer?
[05:55] <yuka_> 'lshw -c network' shows me network:0 DISABLED. any idea how to enable my wireless interface?
[06:41] <yuka_> 'sudo ifconfig wla0 up' enabled my wireless interface. but 'iwlist wlan0 scanning' shows 'no scan results'.
[08:40] <BSE> mornin' everyone :)
[08:40] <BSE> may I have a question? is anyone using "governor" icon in the task panel?
[08:41] <BSE> or is it bugged in 9.04
[08:41] <BSE> I was using it in intrepid, but after upgrade it vanished and more important - it doesnt display :)
[08:47] <david_> Hi, I'm running the unsupported 7.04 version of xubuntu, now I want to update to 9.04, can someone help with this as I can't use the update-manager?
[08:49] <david_> I'm already running a clean version of 7.04 so I don't need to backup, the case is however I'm out of cd's so I want to do it without a bootable cd
[08:49] <david_> is this possible?
[08:55] <BSE> david_: may I ask you why you dont have update-manager?
[08:56] <BSE> david_: this is not working? [you probably have to 7.04->7.10->8.04->8.10->9.04
[08:56] <david_> I do have but I can't update from this version anymore it appears, it gives a whole list with 404 not found
[08:56] <BSE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=574796
[08:57] <BSE> ah... well, I am noob, so probably someone more experienced will have to answer you with this
[08:57] <_Pete_> I guess easiest would be to buy new CD updating that release chain most probably has some issues
[08:57] <david_> it doesn't even says "a new distribution is available"
[08:58] <SiDi> huh ?
[08:59] <david_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[08:59] <david_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[08:59] <david_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[08:59] <david_> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.140 80]
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/universe/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/multiverse/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <SiDi> david_: quit the spam
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <BSE> we have the idea david_
[08:59] <SiDi> and try to use versions that are still maintained
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/universe/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/main/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <SiDi> david_: STOP
[08:59] <david_> http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-updates/restricted/source/Sources.gz: 404 Not Found
[08:59] <CloseYetFar> lol he cant, he pasted the whole thing
[08:59] <david_> sorry
[09:00]  * SiDi throws thunders at david_ !
[09:00] <david_> i'm not doing anything
[09:00] <SiDi> Alright, feisty isn't supported anymore afaik
[09:00] <SiDi> You should have upgraded to hardy (at least) already
[09:00] <david_> would it be possible to boot from a flash drive?
[09:01] <SiDi> What's the issue actually ?
[09:01] <BSE> david_: http://www.jonlee.ca/installing-xubuntu-without-a-cd-drive-the-weekend-project-continued/
[09:02] <BSE> SiDi: he has 7.04 installed and no CD and want to upgrade
[09:02] <SiDi> And he cant do a dist-upgrade ?
[09:02] <SiDi> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[09:02] <david_> thanks
[09:02] <SiDi> oh no, 7.10 is stopped too
[09:02] <SiDi> :/
[09:02] <BSE> SiDi: that was probably the spam :D
[09:03] <SiDi> BSE: 7.10 is gutsy :p
[09:03] <CloseYetFar> he just needs to update his sources.list file and run apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:03] <SiDi> Nah, you'll either have to find the _old_ alternate CDs and then upgrade from them
[09:03] <SiDi> CloseYetFar: that'll completely break his distro
[09:04] <CloseYetFar> thats how you do it on Debian
[09:04] <BSE> SiDi: ah, I understand now - yea I know its gutsy, I just dont realised it dont look to feisty when dist updating :)
[09:07] <SiDi> CloseYetFar: we have migration scripts
[09:08] <SiDi> that would forget the 7.04->7.10 one
[09:08] <SiDi> i really wouldn't do this to one of my distros:p
[09:08] <CloseYetFar> well you have to go one step at a time
[09:08] <CloseYetFar> not from 7.04 to 9.04 lol
[09:09] <SiDi> the problem is the repos for 7.04 and 7.10 are closed
[09:09] <CloseYetFar> yea thats gonna be a issue
[09:09] <CloseYetFar> wait isnt 7.10 LTS
[09:10] <BSE> no 8.04 is
[09:10] <CloseYetFar> yea
[09:10] <SiDi> come on
[09:10] <SiDi> i tried 7.10 and it really failed here :)
[09:10] <SiDi> apart from pa, 8.04 was perfect
[09:10] <CloseYetFar> I alwasy go for the LTS so I dont have to update right away
[09:10] <BSE> guy is stuck on only version which cannot be upgraded :D
[09:11] <BSE> probably
[09:11] <CloseYetFar> Ubuntu moves so fast with version
[09:11] <BSE> as 6.10 [and now I talk without knowledge] should be LTS and have scripts to 8.04 :D
[09:12] <BSE> and 7.10 should have direct -> 8.04 as well :D
[09:13] <SiDi> BSE: it does :D
[09:13] <SiDi> but 6.06 just stopped
[09:13] <SiDi> afaik there are only 8.04/8.10/9.04 left now
[09:13] <SiDi> 6.06 is only for servers now
[09:14] <BSE> edgy is 6.06?
[09:16] <BSE> ah, ok, i just googled i
[09:16] <BSE> t
[09:24] <BSE> ah.. now I am little but confused.. will be karmic LTS?
[09:24] <BSE> *bit
[09:26] <SiDi> No
[09:26] <SiDi> 10.04 is the next planned LTS afaik
[09:27] <BSE> ah, I thought that LTS are once per 18 month
[09:29] <BSE> well, and another question, do any of you have experience with xubuntu on old computer? :) I am thinking about installing it on  year old acer [1GHz, 256MB Ram, 20GB disk], .maybe the disk is biggest issue, isnt't it?
[09:30] <BSE> 7 year old Acer
[09:30] <BSE> my fingers are lazy today o.O
[09:31] <Slonkie> 20gb should be enough
[09:31] <martink> hi. I would have one question in order to make xubuntu just completely perfect for me: the volume-shortcuts dont work. (they did in (k)ubuntu though). Does anyone maybe have experience with it?
[09:35] <martink> in "keyboard"->"application shortcuts" I do "add" but it doesnt let me add a shortcut. only enter "aumix -v+10"
[09:35] <SiDi> martink: enter the text, then press ok
[09:35] <SiDi> then chose the shortcut
[09:36] <martink> yes!!!!!!!
[09:37] <martink> thank you very much. Dont know if I would have found that :)
[09:37] <Slonkie> haha lol
[09:37] <martink> haha
[09:40] <BSE> tbh, I miss option tu MUTE and then to UNMUTE :(
[09:40] <martink> yes I dont have "unmute" neither, but I'm more than happy with that now!!!
[09:41] <BSE> maybe it is somehow possible with aumix, but I didn't find it
[09:43] <Slonkie> you do have mute, right BSE ?
[09:45] <BSE> Slonkie: yea, I have mute, but it simply sets volume to zero
[09:45] <Slonkie> yes
[09:45] <Slonkie> you chould make unmute to volume 10 ;P
[09:45] <BSE> I was used to be able to return original volume after second "mute" :)
[09:45] <BSE> I am using different volumes often :)
[09:46] <Slonkie> yea i see
[09:48] <BSE> ok, see ya later
[09:48] <Slonkie> bye
[09:56] <martink> thanks again for your help, bye for now!
[11:07] <FSX> Hey, Xfce doesn't remember my settings. Each time I have the same settings as before I upgraded to Xfce 4.6.
[11:17] <ablomen> FSX, you can try to remove everything in ~/.cache/sessions
[11:18] <FSX> ablomen, Thanks I'll try that.
[11:57] <doughed2003> good morning
[11:59] <doughed2003> could use some help in changing boot menu list to get my usb into it
[12:05] <Executioner> http://3x3cut10n3r.mybrute.com/ <-- have fun & good luck
[12:47] <ruadh> Hi all
[14:10] <BSE> btw guys, what text editor do you use for coding? vim? :)
[14:11] <BSE> or specialised IDE?
[14:11] <Slonkie> mousepad
[14:11] <BSE> may it be html, C++ or python..
[14:12] <Slonkie> whatever i need coded
[14:12] <BSE> I would use it, but is has no syntax highlight... or has it?
[14:12] <Slonkie> Don't think so. i don't use the highlights
[14:13]  * ablomen uses gedit
[14:14] <niabsirc> kate is nice
[14:14] <ablomen> it has syntax higlighting and tonns of plugins (like snipets, inline terminals etc) which make it pretty good
[14:20] <SiDi> gedit too T_T
[14:20] <BSE> ablomen: hmm, nice :) it it precisely what I seek :)
[14:21] <SiDi> BSE: its a Qt package !
[14:21] <BSE> I was used to PSPad on Windows, and I missed something like that
[14:22] <BSE> SiDi: huh?
[14:25] <SiDi> Kate is a KDE app
[14:25] <SiDi> you'll have to install Qt
[14:25] <SiDi> Try Gedit / GVim / Emacs !
[14:25] <carlis> sidi I don`t receive anwser of them
[14:25] <SiDi> carlis: there is *nothing* i can do for that
[14:26] <carlis> The exact error message is: Sorry the program "ubiquity" closed unexpectedly
[14:26] <ablomen> SiDi, i said gedit...
[14:27] <SiDi> ablomen: apologizes, someone wrote kate just above :P sorry
[14:27] <carlis> I could install xubuntu in my house
[14:27] <ablomen> lol ah np
[14:27] <carlis> and in my office i receive the ubiquity error
[14:28] <carlis> I can`t get help here
[14:29] <carlis> :(
[15:06] <histo> ?
[15:06] <charlie-tca> histo, did you need help?
[15:07] <histo> nope
[15:07] <histo> I'm idle like always waiting to help others
[15:09] <sevay> salut
[15:09] <sevay> Quelqu'un parles francais N
[15:09] <sevay> ?
[15:11] <charlie-tca> !fr
[15:12] <SiDi> sevay: pm moi
[15:12] <SiDi> sinon #ubuntu-fr :)
[15:12] <charlie-tca> !fr
[15:13] <SiDi> charlie-tca: you hurt my feelings ~ :)
[15:13] <charlie-tca> why?
[15:13] <SiDi> i was telling him to message me or try  #u-fr !
[15:13] <charlie-tca> Isn't that what I said?
[15:13] <SiDi> aw
[15:13] <SiDi> i thought you rewrote it for me =P
[15:13] <SiDi> but he dc'd when you wrote it first time
[15:13] <SiDi> w/e :P
[15:14] <charlie-tca> Yeah, and now the 'bot is broken again
[15:14] <SiDi> !es
[15:14] <charlie-tca> You speak english, he didn't seem too
[15:14] <SiDi> It's because it doesn't want to repeat the same things
[15:14] <SiDi> !es
[15:14] <SiDi> see ? :P
[15:14] <charlie-tca> What did they set the repeat at now?
[15:18] <SiDi> Don't know
[15:18] <SiDi> Running out of battery, going back home :)
[15:28] <J_Litewski> does launchpad have a SVN for a project?
[15:29] <charlie-tca> Ask on #launchpad ?
[15:30] <georgG> hmm, my volume seems to be muted on boot, any way of fixing that?
[15:30] <J_Litewski> ah
[15:30] <J_Litewski> sorry
[15:30] <charlie-tca> no problem
[15:31] <corymac> i go to run the up date manager, i do not have enough room to install updates... how can i resize the partition Xubuntu is installed on?
[15:31] <charlie-tca> Use the desktop/live cd to run gparted
[15:32] <charlie-tca> You can not resize a partition you are currently in
[15:33] <corymac> some how i have to free up 4510k for updates...
[15:34] <charlie-tca> As long as you have disk space, you can do that by running the desktop cd.
[15:36] <charlie-tca> You should make sure you have a backup, just in case
[16:03]  * genii hands charlie-tca some more coffee
[16:04]  * Pres-Gas takes coffee from charlie-tca's sleeping hand and stalks off to drink
[16:04]  * SiDi throws kittens at Pres-Gas.
[16:05] <Pres-Gas> AAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHH!
[16:05]  * SiDi goes grab his kitten launcher v 3.01-unstable and aims at Pres-Gas !
[16:05] <_Pete_> m-m-m-m-onster kill :)
[16:05]  * Pres-Gas starts sneezing uncontrollably...looks for lung brush
[16:06] <Pres-Gas> too late
[16:06]  * Pres-Gas head asplodes
[16:06] <SiDi> Aw
[16:07] <darkham> hey people, what do you think about the newest 9.04?
[16:07] <SiDi> Do you have a furious kitten allergy Pres-Gas ?
[16:07] <darkham> maybe ideal , in complete installation, for eeepc?
[16:07] <SiDi> darkham: it lacks kittens, but apart from that its really the wonderfulest distro i've ever used :)
[16:07] <Pres-Gas> SiDi, unfortunately, yeah....
[16:07] <SiDi> darkham: i'd honnestly use the ubuntu netbook remix cd, and then install xubuntu-desktop from there
[16:07] <SiDi> because they have more drivers on their livec d:p
[16:08] <darkham> yes, i think to create a pendrive for install xubuntu
[16:09] <darkham> what's performaces?
[16:44] <Pres-Gas> I love sshfs
[16:47] <genii> Many people do :)
[17:27] <Besogon> How can I mount Canon camera through USB. I see my device when type lsusb. But I dont know what I have to do
[17:28] <Besogon> In gnome it mounted fine
[17:28] <Besogon> ?
[17:31] <charlie-tca> What about sudo mount /dev/device?
[17:33] <Besogon> How can I know what is should device I need to use?
[17:34] <Besogon> How can I know what device should I use?
[17:34] <Besogon> ?
[17:35] <zoredache> disconnect the device, and then reconnect it.  once it is reconnected drop to a terminal and run dmesg
[17:35] <Besogon> I will try
[17:35] <zoredache> the last few lines should give you an idea about if the device was detected and what device names it is using
[17:38] <Besogon> Bus 001 Device 010: ID 04a9:3126 Canon, Inc.
[17:39] <Besogon> it was lsusb command
[17:39] <Besogon> !paste
[17:41] <Besogon> dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/164310/
[17:43] <cougarten> how to disable/hide a desktopicon (floppy drive) or disable the floppy drive?
[17:43] <Besogon> What would YOU say to that? It seems that it cant find my device. Becouse last strings are like: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[17:44] <cougarten> and why is the desktop a bit glitchy sometimes? is that xubuntu or my old hardware?
[17:47] <Besogon> cougarten, No way. You can remove only all desktopicon to removable devaces.
[17:47] <Besogon> zoredache, ?
[17:47] <cougarten> and disableing that stupid floppy drive?
[17:48] <zoredache> zoredache: it may be that your camera needs some extra drive or software to actually connect.  It doesn't appear like it is going to show up as a disk device
[17:49] <Besogon> cougarten, yes you are. And you will disable ALL usb devices when you stick it in
[17:49] <cougarten> okey
[17:49] <zoredache> personally, I use a memory card reader.  I find that it is usually faster and works a lot better most of the time
[17:49] <cougarten> than I'll keep that icon
[17:50] <Besogon> zoredache, some times ago my camera connected fine. I will try to use it in GNOME again. I have old computer and havent USB2 ))))
[17:51] <Besogon> cougarten, do as you like
[17:55] <Besogon> chanell #ubuntu-ru has banned my yesterday to next week. ha ha ha... It was my first ban )))
[17:55] <Besogon> by
[17:55] <Besogon> all
[18:15] <crazygir> oftentimes, after using my cdrom (reading/burning, etc), I then won't be able to open it back up.. or if I can (to remove the disc) I won't be able to open it again.. I've tried eject, eject through sudo, and eject as root (su)
[18:15] <crazygir> any suggestions?
[18:16] <zoredache> crazygir: silly, question, are you sure that the cd isn't mounted?
[18:23] <Relam_> hi installed xubuntu on ppc, when i now boot i got error messages all the time: buffer i/o error on device hda8
[18:23] <Relam_> powerbook g4
[18:24] <Relam_> now it boots :-)
[18:24] <Relam_> after 10 minutes of buggin me _)
[18:25] <charlie-tca> crazygir: When mine does that, I am usually able to right-click the cd icon on the desktop and eject from that
[18:26] <charlie-tca> Also, sometimes, exo-eject works
[18:32] <crazygir> zoredache: yes
[18:33] <crazygir> there isn't any disc in the drive
[18:33] <crazygir> I'm usually able to do that the first time
[18:40] <charlie-tca> crazygir: look like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/217900
[18:40] <charlie-tca> bug 217900
[19:02] <Relam_> i ve booted into xubuntu... mouse oer highlights buttons, but nothing happens
[19:25] <xubuntoo> hi everyone
[19:26] <xubuntoo> anyone having trouble saving their display settings after restart
[19:30] <cody-somerville> Not me
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Doesn't seem like it
[19:36] <SiDi> hello i need help
[19:36] <SiDi> my internet is slow
[19:36] <SiDi> i think its because of windows update T_T
[19:37] <charlie-tca> try ##windows
[19:37] <SiDi> :)
[19:37] <charlie-tca> I also heard Microsoft has help available?
[19:38] <SiDi> charlie-tca: i'll upload you a screenshot to show you my windows updater taking all the bandwidth :]
[19:38] <SiDi> (ive been at 251Byte/sec for a few secs)
[19:38] <charlie-tca> ooops, that is, Microsoft needs help, I think.
[19:38] <SiDi> Yes
[19:38] <SiDi> They do :)
[19:39] <charlie-tca> This one is easy. Just quit using Microsoft software!
[19:39] <SiDi> it was preinstalled on my os !
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Change where you buy, too, then?
[19:39] <SiDi> Damn, even my upload bandwidth is down
[19:40] <SiDi> They didn't want to sell me a clean machine (well they wanted, for 300 € more, the hardware wasnt worth 400€ on that machine/)
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I don't think I have bought any systems with windows installed. OTOH, I built all of mine
[19:40] <SiDi> I can't build laptops :)
[19:40] <SiDi> but my desktop has been built indeed, without os !
[19:40] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I think I have to get a netbook. Probably an ASUS, too
[19:41] <SiDi> Samsung's are cool
[19:41] <SiDi> get one with ubuntu netbook remix anyways ^^
[19:41] <charlie-tca> I know, but we an Asus to test with
[19:41] <charlie-tca> s/we an/we need an
[19:41] <SiDi> http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/626/capturel.png
[19:41] <SiDi> windows update :(
[19:42] <charlie-tca> I don't think I would bother with it, personally.
[19:43] <SiDi> there's something i actually hate about update-manager
[19:43] <SiDi> downloading file 39/40
[19:43] <SiDi> and a second later, file 41/80
[19:43] <SiDi> T_T
[19:43]  * SiDi almost finished downloading the packages list off the repo :X
[19:44] <SiDi> See why i didnt dist-upgrade my other PC yet ? :)
[19:48] <Pres-Gas> Look, you wanna talk about inefficient...try RHEL/Fedora/CentOS.  Yum is SO close to apt-get, but rpm just kills my soul
[19:52] <zoredache> using rpm directly would be like using dpkg directly to install packages...
[19:53] <zoredache> neither tools are really fit for direct human consumption... :p
[20:15] <charlie-tca> Adobe is looking for testers with 64-bit systems. Seems they are trying to get out some Linux only software for now.
[20:15] <charlie-tca> http://dthomasdigital.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/adobe-releases-64-bit-version-of-air-linux-only/
[20:33] <dahaic> charlie-tca: I am afraid it will be like flash plugin :( still not really on par with windows
[20:33] <charlie-tca> But windows is not even getting it yet!
[20:33] <charlie-tca> They also have 64-bit flash for Linux only!
[20:34] <dahaic> because 64bit windows are minority, with real margin, so they are using as as guinea pigs [which I dont mind]
[20:34] <charlie-tca> doesn't that kind of leave windows users out?
[20:35] <SiDi> cause windows sucks too much for 64b apps =)
[20:35] <dahaic> I really look forward to one day, that it will be really no difference between flash on win and linux, and I think it will come, but it is long way :)
[20:37] <SiDi> Wonderful
[20:37] <SiDi> today's update killed my sound
[20:40] <cody-somerville> Which update?
[21:00] <J_Litewski> I got a semi decent GUI going my Python program =)
[21:22] <dahaic> SiDi: which update killed the sound?
[21:23] <SiDi> dahaic: the latest one
[21:23] <SiDi> there were cups packages, udev, libwft (or something similar), and bluetooth
[21:23] <SiDi> maybe it was bluez-alsa
[21:23] <dahaic> SiDi: you are using developer updates?
[21:23] <SiDi> i rebooted and it was back
[22:19] <J_Litewski> what is the best GUI specification?
[22:45] <martink> hi. I have a general linux-question, i'm still rather new to it: how do you deinstall application that aren't part of packet-sources?
[22:45] <martink> in this example: maple or matlab
[22:46] <J_Litewski> markink, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get remove [application]
[22:48] <SiDi> martink: they're all parts of a package :)
[22:51] <martink> well. i dont want to deinstall it now, but my synaptic does not find my maple or matlab
[22:52] <martink> could this be, because I installed it into my home?
[23:12] <martink> deinstalling Matlab with sudo apt-get remove matlab doesn't work.
[23:13] <martink> I know I should have installed it properly, but I did install it into my home dir.
[23:13] <martink> any idea on how I could deinstall it?
[23:13] <zoredache> how did you install it?  Usually you need to do the reverse of whatever you did to install
[23:14] <martink> I started an installer on the disc
[23:15] <zoredache> check on the disk and see if there is an unintall script
[23:19] <zoredache> or look in the matlab directory on your system perhaps under something like bin and see if there is a script or file named uninstall
[23:21] <martink> thanks. I would have been too lazy to check the disk. Fould a hint in a documentary there
[23:22] <martink> and it seems to be gone. good.
[23:22] <martink> rm -rf matlabroot
[23:23] <martink> while matlabroot is the path to the directory I installed it to.