[00:49] <Riddell> evening, what did I miss today?
[00:50] <Riddell> apachelogger: packagekit fork issue I did try to extent the timeout, there's a patch on the bug and packages in ~jr PPA, but seele still reported having the problem
[00:50] <Riddell> no fix for updates which bring in new packages but that shouldn't be an issue for a stable release?
[00:54] <maco> that mean i should try using kpackagekit again? i've been avoiding it because of the fork thing for a while...
[00:58] <Riddell> maco: try using the packagekit update in ~jr PPA and see if that helps
[00:59] <maco> kk
[01:00]  * Riddell snoozes
[01:04] <maco> :( KPackageKit has "Apply all available updates", "History", "Package", and "Action" in English
[01:05] <maco> and the policykit popup is all english
[01:07] <maco> no errors! yay!
[01:12] <ryanakca> nixternal: Hi, to apply my changes to all HTML files, I would... ?
[01:13] <nixternal> what changes?
[01:28] <ryanakca> nixternal: The theme. I need to add the rounding blurb to all the .html files...
[01:29] <nixternal> so you need to add stuff to the part before <body> and that's it?
[01:29] <nixternal> that could easily be done by scripting
[01:30] <nixternal> if you need to edit/add more, then that would have to be done somewhat manually
[01:30] <nixternal> or...I could probably create a new xsl sheet to build docs against to prevent all of this work :)
[01:31] <ryanakca> Hmmm... probably easier for me just to write a small script. Thanks :)
[01:32] <nixternal> yes, but an xsl for the future would be nicer
[01:32] <nixternal> this is where externals in bzr would be nice
[01:33] <ryanakca> nixternal: Well, shall I get you the blurb to add?
[01:39] <ryanakca> nixternal: Here it is, http://pastebin.ca/1412859
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> the buildds are sloooow still :(
[02:40] <JontheEchidna> my Qt sru isn't set to build for another 7 hours
[02:42] <nhandler> JontheEchidna: Based on what I have heard in -release, SRUs have weird build priorities
[02:44] <vorian> where is the network package that needs testing?
[02:44] <vorian> my atheros is really sucking
[02:45] <vorian> SUCKING
[09:05] <eagles0513875> apachelogger: ping
[12:36] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: did kubuntu_72_remove_startkde_cruft.diff go upstream?
[12:37] <Riddell> apachelogger: did kubuntu_13_startkde_set_country.diff go upstream? (at least for discussion of the issue)
[13:14] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: nope, not as far as I know
[13:14] <eagles0513875> JontheEchidna: regarding the intel issues would it be possible to include some of the older drivers from gutsy and intrepid so that intel gfx users have some choices
[13:15] <JontheEchidna> eagles0513875: there are ppas for that, which is about as good as it will get for now
[13:15] <eagles0513875> ok
[13:15]  * eagles0513875 goes huting for the ppa with those drivers
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4.5.0-0ubuntu4.1/+build/987442
[13:28] <JontheEchidna> :(
[13:29] <eagles0513875> JontheEchidna: think tsimpson is working on the bots
[13:30] <JontheEchidna> what about the bots?
[13:31] <eagles0513875> he was revamping them or something recoding adn what not since the bots we had werent doing the trick he was recoding in ruby but i think hes finished and is working on another aspect of them
[13:31] <eagles0513875> !hi
[13:31] <JontheEchidna> what does that have to do with anything, though?
[13:31] <JontheEchidna> I'm just saying that Qt4 has been in queue for 14 hours and still isn't ready for building yet
[13:31] <eagles0513875> doesnt the bot normally even when linking display what hte bug is about i thought thats what the :( was for
[13:31] <eagles0513875> ahhhhh my bad
[13:31] <eagles0513875> misinterpreted the smiley and link
[13:32] <eagles0513875> is there anything i can do to help facilitate the build
[13:42] <JontheEchidna> nope
[13:43] <eagles0513875> ok
[13:43] <eagles0513875> if there is anything for testing let me know
[14:02] <seele> were there any app proposals for Karmic that i should begin reviewing?
[14:41] <Nightrose> http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2009/04/28/amarok-2-in-kubuntu-jaunty/ <- last comment says there are problems with the current amarok package in the ppa
[14:41] <Nightrose> JontheEchidna: apachelogger: can you please have a look?
[14:41] <Nightrose> or anyone else here who has time?
[14:44] <jjesse> i keep getting notified that my hda intel sound card has stopped working or something similar is there a way to restart the sound system so sound works again without restarting?
[14:48] <maco> wow just saw an interesting email on one of the local mailing lists. it's talking about kubuntu 10.4 (?) and how knetworkmanager (huh?) is broken in it
[14:53] <neversfelde> Nightrose: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-experimental/+archive/ppa/+build/985608 Seems that it is not fully build atm, that might be the problem?
[14:53] <Nightrose> neversfelde: possible - build failure or just waiting?
[14:53] <neversfelde> Nightrose: only waiting
[14:53] <Nightrose> ok great
[14:53] <Nightrose> thanks
[14:53] <Nightrose> i'll let the guy know
[14:54] <neversfelde> build of i386 packages starts in 23 hours :)
[14:56] <neversfelde> I think the amarok-common package is not changed
[15:02] <Quintasan> Hiho
[15:18] <astromme> maco: it's a message from the future! We must bow down to our time travelling friends
[15:19] <maco> ^_^
[15:24]  * astromme just read the comments on the amarok post that lydia made. Yuck... I guess the trolls, having found no major issues with 4.2.2, have switched and latched on to amarok. /sigh
[15:26] <Nightrose> astromme: hehe yea - kinda sucks that we didn't get 2.1 ready for jaunty
[15:26] <Nightrose> that would have prevented a lot of it
[15:26] <Nightrose> but well
[15:26] <astromme> Nightrose: absolutely. But on the other hand, you can't rush these things
[15:27] <Nightrose> 2.1 release is soon and then hopefully most people will shut up
[15:27] <Nightrose> right
[15:27] <astromme> and 2.0 is a decent release. I was happy with it
[15:27] <Nightrose> :)
[15:27]  * astromme shrugs
[15:27] <Nightrose> btw: back from berlin again - will check out the current rtm applet when I am back home in a few hours
[15:27] <astromme> Nightrose: btw, pretty soon you won't have to build the rtm stuff any more :). It made it into kdeplasma-addons right before feature freeze
[15:28] <Nightrose> your screenshots look awesome
[15:28] <astromme> :)
[15:28] <Nightrose> \o/
[15:28] <Nightrose> awesome
[15:29] <astromme> So for the next week or two I'm shifting totally to "Do well on my end of year uni exams" and then I'll have time to concentrate on kde again. heh
[15:29] <Nightrose> hehe good luck
[15:44] <Riddell> Tonio_: seen qutecom?
[15:44] <Riddell> just passed through  New queue
[15:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: looked at the code... as messy as openwengo... still lots of openwengo references...
[15:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: I think there's a package on a ppa
[15:45] <Riddell> well it's in the main archive now
[15:46] <Tonio_> Riddell: who got it in ?
[15:46] <Riddell> Maia Kozheva <sikon@ubuntu.c om>
[15:46] <Riddell> but I think it's in debian too according to changelog
[15:51] <ScottK> That's LucidFox
[15:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: well I'll test it then... I must say I haven't been in using sip recently, as my new ISP doesn't have a sip service....
[15:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: and as my current hobby is to search for a new job :)
[15:57] <Tonio_> Riddell: now 2 month before my contrat ends, so that's the very only priority :)
[15:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: there are probably plans for sip support within decibel, no ?
[16:00] <Tonio_> Riddell: but as we should forget about kcall I think, since it's unmaintained, maybe qutecom is finally what we should get on the CD...
[16:01] <Tonio_> Riddell: last time I tested it (arround 4 month ago) it looked to me as a quick openwengo fork, pretty unstable one for sure...
[16:02] <Tonio_> Riddell: which archives ? can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com
[16:03] <Tonio_> hum launchpad has it but not p.u.com.... weird...
[16:04] <Riddell> Tonio_: I only just let it through new a few minutes ago
[16:12] <Tonio_> Riddell: ho right
[16:36] <Riddell> vorian: wake up!
[16:40] <eagles0513875> morning to you to Riddell
[16:41] <eagles0513875> apache needs a good poke his bots been in and out of a number of channels all day
[16:56] <Riddell> evening fabo
[16:59] <nixternal> what's the status? can I start merging? REVUing? sponsoring?
[17:00] <Riddell> nixternal: merging you should be able to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KarmicKDEMerges
[17:00] <nixternal> w00t
[17:01] <nixternal> anything need to be done now?
[17:01] <Riddell> nixternal: anything that doesn't have a name by it there
[17:01] <Riddell> on wiki page above
[17:01] <nixternal> roger that
[17:01] <Riddell> plus all other other ones on merges.ubuntu.com
[17:01]  * nixternal starts adding his name
[17:01] <Riddell> but I'm not uploading anything yet, mostly waiting on fabo to discuss qt and phonon
[17:02] <nixternal> roger that
[17:02] <Riddell> and if you see vorian about, he's needed for uploading 4.2.3 to a PPA
[17:02] <nixternal> are the builds complete and tested for 4.2.3? are they somewhere that anyone can upload? or is it just on vorian?
[17:03] <Riddell> as far as I know only vorian has them, can't see them in any PPA
[17:03] <eagles0513875> btw anyone need anythign tested including 4.2.3 let me know :)
[17:03] <eagles0513875> also i have a site with about 20 free books that i would like to possibly see in karmic too
[17:07] <neversfelde> nixternal: Hi, are you allowed to publish something for the fridge?
[17:07] <Riddell> books don't tend to go in the archive unless they're developer books
[17:09] <nixternal> neversfelde: yes
[17:10] <nixternal> if it is a calendar/event item, anyone can publish that
[17:10] <eagles0513875> Riddell: thats why i would like to link and see what yall think but i have to get back on mydesktop
[17:10] <eagles0513875> and they are bout 20 books one is of ubuntu
[17:10] <neversfelde> nixternal: it is our interview with JontheEchidna, it would be nice to bring it to a larger audience
[17:10] <neversfelde> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/english/interview-with-kubuntu-developer-jonathan-thomas
[17:11] <eagles0513875> i ready that i learned quite alot about the way things are done at canonical and with the ubuntu line
[17:12] <nixternal> neversfelde: roger that, I will get that up for you, thanks
[17:12] <neversfelde> nixternal: nice :). Thank you
[17:16] <Riddell> nixternal: no holding you back is there? :)
[17:17] <eagles0513875> i think when it comes to the dedication to a distro i dont think there is holding anyone back
[17:17] <nixternal> Riddell: nope :)
[17:26] <nixternal> neversfelde: the story is sitting in the queue awaiting proofing and publishing
[17:27] <neversfelde> nixternal: thank you very much
[17:27] <nixternal> no problemo
[17:27] <Riddell> who will proof and publish?
[17:27] <nixternal> the other news editors
[17:27] <nixternal> Riddell: but iirc, you can do that as well :)
[17:27] <nixternal> or you used to be able to
[17:28] <nixternal> as it seems the news editors are busy either sleeping or with their personal life
[17:28] <eagles0513875> want me to do it
[17:29] <eagles0513875> im a minion so ill do anythign to help
[17:29] <Riddell> well it needs an account, dunno if mine still exists
[17:30] <Riddell> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/user has no username or password fieldn?
[17:30] <nixternal> no, you login via OpenID now
[17:30] <nixternal> through LP
[17:30] <nixternal> and if you are on the news team you have access
[17:30] <nixternal> I think
[17:31] <Riddell> nixternal: ok, how do I view the queue?
[17:31] <nixternal> just under the fridge logo up top, you should see your name, and under that "> administer"?
[17:32] <Riddell> ooh I see it
[17:32] <Riddell> "Interview with a Kubuntu Developer" ?
[17:32] <nixternal> yup
[17:32] <nixternal> all you have to do is publish it and set it to the front page iirc
[17:33] <nixternal> Preview it, then set to "Published" and "Promotoed to front page" before clicking submit
[17:33] <Riddell> approved!
[17:33] <nixternal> woot
[17:34] <nixternal> hrmm, I thought the first rule of the Kubuntu Ninja Club, is you don't talk about the Kubuntu Ninja Club
[17:34] <nixternal> ;)
[17:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[17:34] <eagles0513875> well read what jon said if he tells ya he would have to kill ya
[17:51] <Quintasan> hmm what's with REVU?
[17:53] <nixternal> Riddell: are we dput'ing the merges now or just pushing them to bzr?
[17:53] <Riddell> nixternal: I'm just putting them in bzr
[17:53] <nixternal> roger that
[17:54] <Riddell> since if we change phonon everything will need a recompile anyway
[17:54] <Riddell> but 4.3 beta is out tomorrow or sometime soon so I may just start uploading at some point
[17:56] <nixternal> gotcha
[17:56] <neversfelde> nixternal, Riddell: thanks for publishing
[18:00] <nixternal> np
[18:03] <nixternal> Riddell: what are we doing about the changes in control for the kfreebsd stuff? are we merging those in to our stuff?
[18:03] <eagles0513875> ill keep a look out for 4.3 to start testing
[18:04] <Riddell> nixternal: yes, no reason not to
[18:04] <nixternal> groovy, just wanted to make sure
[18:06]  * smarter just noticed that he was still using amarok-kde4
[18:07] <smarter> guess amarok needs a transitional dummy package
[18:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: re packagekit new package issue ... it is a problem in a release because of backports
[18:07] <eagles0513875> apachelogger: not sure if you are aware yoru bot was in and outa here all morning in a number of channels
[18:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: re set_country patch: not sent upstream, not discussed, though I have been told that suse uses a quite similar approach so one way or another upstream should find a way to do this, especially since it has to be patched in about every distro that cares about l10n
[18:09] <Quintasan> smarter: the package should recommend the actual package right?
[18:09] <smarter> more like depend on it
[18:10] <apachelogger> Riddell: come to think of it, our implementation actually doesn't care if the system language was changed ... granted there is a limited use case to that (e.g. when someone moves from _DE to _US) ... but still a dynamic handling as applied for the actually language would be good to have
[18:11] <smarter> apachelogger: heya, do you know that amarok2.1 from k-e is uninstallable? :]
[18:11] <smarter>   amarok: Depends: amarok-common (= 2:2.0.90mysql5.1.30-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2) but it is not installable
[18:12] <apachelogger> Nightrose: that issue is bogus ... -common is arch all thus getting built on i386, with that having an approx 600 packages long build queue -common was not built before the other arches (i.e. amd and lpia) had built amarok thus the dependency issue which will/has autoresolve(d) once i386 finished building
[18:13] <Nightrose> apachelogger: heh - alright - thanks
[18:13] <apachelogger> smarter: use a sensible arch :P
[18:13] <smarter> x86 never made any sense really :}
[18:14] <apachelogger> smarter: did you push the ext4 patch of kvpm upstream?
[18:14] <apachelogger> certainly hope so :P
[18:14] <smarter> hmm, no, still on my todo list, I was in contact with upstream for some time but either the guy disappeared or he didn't get my last few mails :/
[18:15]  * smarter put higher in the Notes applet on his desktop
[18:15] <smarter> *puts it
[18:15] <apachelogger> smarter++
[18:15] <eagles0513875> <----- upstream minion and testing minion. anything i can help upstream wise smarter
[18:15] <smarter> hey eagles0513875
[18:16] <eagles0513875> hey smarter
[18:16] <apachelogger> eagles0513875: didn't know, all jussi01's fault anyway ... unless someone found a crash bug in the bot and triggered it various times
[18:16] <smarter> eagles0513875: nothing that I can think of atm :p
[18:16] <eagles0513875> apachelogger: it was randomly joining then leaving then reconnecting then leaving
[18:16] <jussi01> whats my fault?
[18:16] <eagles0513875> hahahaha
[18:16] <Quintasan> :D
[18:16] <eagles0513875> jussi01: apachelogger's bot coming in and out constantly this am
[18:17]  * apachelogger notes that this am is a quite relative statement
[18:17] <eagles0513875> this am cet time
[18:17] <apachelogger> just imagine an aussie saying that :P
[18:17] <eagles0513875> lol
[18:17] <eagles0513875> apache thought you were on strike till thursday :p
[18:17] <apachelogger> Nightrose: still not built btw
[18:17] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I corrected plasma-widget-stasks, it is now using pkg-kde-tools. Can you sponsor it to upload? bug 371906
[18:17] <apachelogger> Nightrose: are the script bindings working yet?
[18:18] <apachelogger> neversfelde: I am on strike!
[18:18] <eagles0513875> hahahah
[18:18] <eagles0513875> thats my fault neversfelde shouldnt have said anything
[18:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: ̂
[18:18] <Quintasan> wait, what? plasma widgets now use pkg-kde-tools?
[18:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: go sponsor
[18:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: and find mer a priate minion!
[18:18] <eagles0513875> and how are you on strike apach if you sent out an email re translations and are workign in here
[18:18] <eagles0513875> <---minion here
[18:18] <Nightrose> apachelogger: Ian fixed something yesterday yes
[18:18] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Reporting captain, arrr!
[18:18] <neversfelde> apachelogger: oh no, aren't you working for the government in austria?
[18:18] <apachelogger> neversfelde, JontheEchidna: actually dislike that change
[18:19] <apachelogger> neversfelde: you shoudl apply it when $next upstream release gets out
[18:19]  * Quintasan sighs
[18:19] <apachelogger> there is no need for it to be uploaded just with that change
[18:19] <neversfelde> apachelogger: mhh ok
[18:19] <apachelogger> neversfelde: on a kubuntu strike
[18:20] <agateau> in case you are interested, Canonical DX team is holding a meeting on #ayatana right now
[18:20] <Quintasan> apachelogger: but new plasmoid packages should use it by default?
[18:20] <apachelogger> Quintasan: all new KDE 4 packages
[18:20] <apachelogger> that includes plasmoids
[18:20] <Quintasan> ok
[18:20] <Quintasan> thanks
[18:21] <neversfelde> apachelogger: I think it is a general strike prohibition :)
[18:21] <apachelogger> nielsslot: Estimated build start:
[18:21] <apachelogger> in 21 hours
[18:21] <apachelogger> Nightrose: ̂
[18:21] <apachelogger> nielsslot: sry
[18:21] <apachelogger> neversfelde: nope
[18:21] <eagles0513875> apachelogger: anything i can do to help facilitate any of this building
[18:21] <apachelogger> neversfelde: plus technically I am not working for the government
[18:21] <Nightrose> pffft 21h? get more build servers!!!!1111eleven
[18:22] <apachelogger> Nightrose: tell whoever is in charge of them
[18:22] <Nightrose> ;-)
[18:22] <jussi01> hello Nightrose!
[18:22] <eagles0513875> <--if i can get wubi ill contribute my quad core desktop to the equation of buildserver
[18:22] <Nightrose> heya jussi01
[18:22]  * apachelogger notes that the estimated time was 12 hours or something
[18:22] <apachelogger> that was yesterday afternoon
[18:22] <Nightrose> Oo
[18:22] <jussi01> apachelogger: you using jussi01.com or ubottu.com  (I always forget)
[18:22] <apachelogger> so it actually went up while it should have been built for roughly half a day :P
[18:22] <apachelogger> jussi01: the former I think
[18:23] <nixternal> kdeaccessibility was easy, no merge needed :)
[18:23] <jussi01> apachelogger: ok, thats good. it had some network issues earlier, all fixed now
[18:23] <apachelogger> ok
[18:25] <eagles0513875> jussi01: thats what i was telling him bout
[18:25] <eagles0513875> jussi01: the bot on off issue
[18:25] <neversfelde> what to to, if a package is waiting for reviewing and there is a new upstream version. Shall I do a normal update of the package and reupload to revu or is that confusing?
[18:26] <apachelogger> neversfelde: just replace what is in revu
[18:26] <apachelogger> but don't change the changelog or anything
[18:26] <neversfelde> ok
[18:27] <Quintasan> Hmm, what should I put in debian/copyright if upstream dood provided his nickname only?
[18:28] <smarter> Quintasan: try to hunt him down :]
[18:28] <Quintasan> hmm name is in his mail
[18:29] <smarter> google is your friend most of the time to get name/mail from nick/mail/name
[18:35] <Quintasan> http://lechio.freehostia.com/daisy.html
[18:35] <Quintasan> looks intresting
[18:35] <neversfelde> Quintasan: I am currently working on it
[18:36] <Quintasan> hm? I already have it :P
[18:36] <neversfelde> Quintasan: 0.0.2 is up in revu and I am updating
[18:36] <Quintasan> hmm ok
[18:37] <Quintasan> are you working on any other plasmoids?
[18:37] <Quintasan> I don't think I want to do something done already
[18:37]  * eagles0513875 here to test if needed
[18:37] <neversfelde> Quintasan: have a look at launchpad, there should be a [needs-packaging] bug, when someone is working on a package
[18:38] <neversfelde> I just learned yesterday :)
[18:38] <Quintasan> I'm just looking at those :P
[18:39] <eagles0513875> Quintasan: not sure if you want to package an updated svn snapshot of kvirc 4.0
[18:40] <eagles0513875> the snap shot currently in jaunty is from the beginning of march
[18:40] <Quintasan> eagles0513875: ok
[18:40] <eagles0513875> let me know when you have packaged it :) willing to update what i got to test
[18:44]  * Quintasan just remembered that he has some yummy cake in the fridge
[18:52] <Quintasan> neversfelde: got a deb package for daisy?
[18:53] <neversfelde> Quintasan: sure, but be careful, it is not reviewed yet and the software seems to be a bit buggy
[18:53] <neversfelde> i386?
[18:54] <Quintasan> neversfelde: I don't care :P I can bork m4h system even without installing experimental packages
[18:54] <Quintasan> amd64
[18:54] <neversfelde> Quintasan: than you have to build it by yourself
[18:54] <Quintasan> :<
[18:54] <neversfelde> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-daisy
[18:55] <neversfelde> PPA build would not be ready until sunday, I guess^^
[18:55] <Quintasan> aah
[18:55] <Quintasan> sync from debian?
[18:56] <neversfelde> there is no debian package?
[18:58] <Quintasan> nvm, just my babbling :P
[18:59] <nixternal> Riddell: should I do an MIR on libindi for kstars?
[19:00] <Riddell> hum
[19:00] <Riddell> it's already been in main
[19:00] <Riddell> it was part of kdeedu
[19:00] <Riddell> so it shouldn't need one
[19:00] <nixternal> it is in universe, indi 0.5 is in main
[19:01] <nixternal> and according to bug reports, doesn't work with kstars
[19:01] <nixternal> bug 359517
[19:02] <a|wen> we need to get the right libindi in main :)
[19:03] <nixternal> right, and by deping on indi (>= 0.5) and kstars not working with it, but works with libindi0 (>= 0.6), I would say libindi0 is the *right* one
[19:03] <a|wen> nixternal: it surely is ... nobody know how that indi package ended up in main
[19:03] <nixternal> if you build kde from trunk, and install the indi package, it still says it can't find the right package, but if you use libindi0, then it works fine
[19:04] <a|wen> nixternal: true ... known
[19:04] <nixternal> i think because indi sounded more promising than libindi :)
[19:04] <nixternal> thought I would have been looking for libindi*-dev
[19:04] <a|wen> nixternal: but the question is if we need a new MIR (as it is just a new version) or can get them exchanged
[19:05] <a|wen> (or indi probably needs to die if it has no rdepends)
[19:05] <nixternal> libindi is a new version packaged correctly
[19:05] <a|wen> exactly :)
[19:05] <nixternal> kstars is the only rdep on indi
[19:06] <nixternal> and libindi is the correct rdep on the other indi packages
[19:06] <a|wen> so who do we need to ask to get the right libindi in, and the wrong indi out...
[19:07] <Riddell> change-override.py -c main -S libindi   done
[19:07] <nixternal> there you go :)
[19:07] <nixternal> was just going to point to any archive admin
[19:07] <nixternal> didn't want to single Riddell out though :)
[19:07] <a|wen> hehe
[19:07] <a|wen> nice :)
[19:08] <nixternal> Riddell: you didn't run that for real though right?
[19:08] <nixternal> hehe
[19:09] <nixternal> vorian: when you go to put 4.2.3 in the PPA, can you make sure that kstars deps on libindi instead of indi, so I will be able to put a bug to rest and make people happy
[19:12] <a|wen> nixternal: we want to put 4.2.3 in updates ... so don't know if we want to do that; but in a seperate PPA, we for sure need that
[19:12] <ScottK> nixternal: libindi is in Universe for Jaunty, so that's a problem.
[19:12] <nixternal> ScottK: even for the PPAs?
[19:13] <nixternal> oh, didn't know it was going to updates, so strike that vorian :)
[19:13] <ScottK> yeah.
[19:17] <a|wen> nixternal: with the new PPA structure the 4.2.3 will end up in the updates-ppa, but we could probably do the w/libindi version in the experimental-ppa
[19:17] <nixternal> right
[19:19] <Quintasan> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-widget-pgame <-- anyone?
[19:23]  * JontheEchidna takes a look at the above
[19:24] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: needs to use pkg-kde-tools rather than kde4.mk, but other than that it looks fine
[19:25] <JontheEchidna> also you can use a standards-version of 3.8.1 if you want to
[19:25] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: so I'll change it :3
[19:27] <Quintasan> debian-qt-kde.mk <-- this one?
[19:27] <JontheEchidna> ya
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> er
[19:29]  * JontheEchidna double checks
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> yeah, that's right
[19:30] <Quintasan> k, testbuilding now
[19:31] <eagles0513875> how does everyone feel on me building an updated snapshot of kvirc 4.0 to update the one in jaunty repos
[19:32] <Quintasan> eagles0513875: I'm working on it. Some patches don't apply :P
[19:32] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok Quintasan according to the about kvirc build info the one in the repos was build on 7th march almost 3 months old
[19:33] <Quintasan> /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk:1: /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde4.mk: No such file or directory
[19:33] <Quintasan> wth?
[19:33] <Quintasan> I still need cdbs in build deps?
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> yeah, definitely
[19:34] <Quintasan> ah, good to know
[19:34] <JontheEchidna> if it built, linitan would whine at you too :P
[19:36] <maco> hey guys, im kinda confused by something. why does quassel only have 7 strings total in rosetta?
[19:36] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: it whines at me at every time I build something :P
[19:36] <Quintasan> -at
[19:45] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: check it now if you can :)
[19:46] <fabo> 20:33 < Quintasan> I still need cdbs in build deps?
[19:46] <Quintasan> fabo: ?
[19:46] <fabo> because you used pkg-kde-tools cdbs stuff
[19:47] <Quintasan> ok, I just though it's meant to replace cdbs :P
[19:47] <fabo> you can use debhelper only if you want
[19:47] <fabo> (with pkg-kde-tools)
[19:48] <fabo> include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/makefiles/1/variables.mk
[19:49] <Riddell> nixternal: yes I ran it for real
[19:49] <Riddell> fabo: soo, going to look at qt and phonon?
[19:49] <fabo> Riddell: I replied on release and cc'ed you
[19:49] <fabo> it seems fine to use phonon from QT
[19:51] <Quintasan> hmm
[19:51] <Quintasan> I'm going to get some sleep
[19:51] <Quintasan> night
[19:51] <fabo> good night
[19:52] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=5663
[19:54] <eagles0513875> Quintasan: let me know when kvirc is ready to go and ill begin testing the newer snapshot :)
[20:25] <lex79> apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=5664
[22:52] <nixternal> oops, merged kdenetwork, not kdemultimedia...now I have another one to add to my todo list :)
[23:44] <JontheEchidna> Looks like akonadi needs another merge
[23:58] <nixternal> hrmm, there are patches in kdemultimedia that were never documented in the changelog
[23:59] <nixternal> hrmm, all of the patches are undocumented