[00:06]  * wgrant mutters something about ridiculous 17 hour i386 PPA build latency.
[00:06] <sekinto> What is the point of Launchpad points?
[00:07] <wgrant> sekinto: Launchpad karma, you mean? Nothing, really. It's just a misleading indicator of how active somebody is.
[00:08] <sekinto> wgrant: Yeah, your right... it is misleading. The system seems completely flawed. Even though I have done like 90% of the work on the project the other person has like 10x more points on it. xD
[00:08] <wgrant> sekinto: Which project?
[00:09] <sekinto> PyPicSlideshow. But I don't really care about the points, I was just curious how the system worked.
[00:11] <wgrant> sekinto: That's because the blueprint tracker is used so little. The karma is balanced between the various apps, so karma there counts more.
[00:12] <sekinto> wgrant: So the points on project overview pages are really a representation of someone's work in all projects and not the one shown on the project overview page?
[00:13] <wgrant> sekinto: No, no, those are all points from work on the project. The blueprint (called 'specification tracker' on there) points are just worth more, because so few people use Launchpad's blueprint features. I don't know why they balance it like that.
[00:14] <sekinto> wgrant: Okay, thank you.
[01:19] <kklimonda> Hey, Can I test mail interface for LP using staging.lp.net ?
[01:20] <mwhudson> for mails you send to launchpad, i think so
[01:20] <mwhudson> staging doesn't send mail out though
[01:20] <kklimonda> but it would accept them and modify bugs?
[01:21] <mwhudson> i think so
[01:21] <mwhudson> try it :)(
[01:21] <kklimonda> ok, thanks
[01:23]  * maxb hugs BeautifulSoup
[01:24]  * BUGabundo gives maxb free hugs
[01:24]  * maxb is well on the way to having a script to do automated promotion from one PPA to another now
[01:30] <BUGabundo> edge          (Error ID:         OOPS-1221EA4)
[01:30] <BUGabundo> Ursinha: nice alter nick
[01:31] <Ursinha> BUGabundo, cool you notice
[01:31] <BUGabundo>  eheh
[01:31] <BUGabundo> so is staging and edge timeing out :(
[01:32] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: just emailed https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/370594 but its not there!
[01:32] <BUGabundo> so not sure staging accepts email
[01:35] <cody-somerville> Are CVS imports running?
[01:35] <mwhudson> cody-somerville: should be
[01:35] <mwhudson> the system is somewhat overloaded
[01:36] <cody-somerville> mwhudson, Ah, okay.
[01:36] <cody-somerville> mwhudson, Does any magic voodoo have to happen when setting up a new cvs import? Or does setting it up via the web UI work just fine?
[01:37] <mwhudson> cody-somerville: it needs to be approved
[01:37] <cody-somerville> mwhudson, Right, I clicked "Create approved import" so I assumed its approved.
[01:37] <mwhudson> oh right
[01:37] <mwhudson> yes then
[01:38] <mwhudson> but like i said, the system is overloaded currently
[01:38] <mwhudson> so it may be some hours before it gets processed
[01:41] <MiserySalin> could somebody review our import queue of gmpc-dynamic-playlist?  https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/gmpc/+imports
[03:12]  * steffen is away: I'm busy
[04:15] <poolie> jml: "launchpad bugger" hey? :-) (per bug 345577)
[04:16] <wgrant> poolie: That sounds like a bit of an oops.
[04:21] <persia> Wasn't there a UDS session about that in December?
[04:32] <MTecknology> anyone have a link to prove canonical employees get more email than they can handle?
[04:36] <thumper> MTecknology: only personal experience
[04:37] <MTecknology> thumper: Could you do a screen shot of the incoming email you get from ubuntu lists and show as much as you can?
[04:37] <MTecknology> I just need something for a paper
[04:37] <thumper> heh
[04:37] <thumper> I have mine auto filtered into folders
[04:37] <MTecknology> I wrote most of the paper, but I need a picture in it
[04:37] <MTecknology> are any of them filled beyond beleif?
[04:38] <thumper> and likely some of the subjects wouldn't be for public consumption
[04:38] <thumper> launchpad-bugs is one
[04:38] <spm> ... or folder names in my case :-)
[04:38] <MTecknology> I only need something for a paper. It doesn't need to show your most confidential stuff to prove a point :P
[04:39] <thumper> MTecknology: I have 8000 unread emails in folders
[04:39] <thumper> MTecknology: and I'm not likely to read them either
[04:39] <MTecknology> thumper: a screenshot of that would be perfect.
[04:40] <thumper> I'm not sure I want that floating around the internet :)
[04:40]  * thumper runs to drop something off
[04:43] <spm> MTecknology: tbh I'm not sure what point you'd prove? canonical in terms of email isn't (IMHO) better or worse than most other organisations I've worked for. One of the tricks of suviving as a tech worker - learn to prioritise your email. some gets deleted unread, some gets acted on immediately, some can wait for days to weeks. ????
[04:44] <MTecknology> spm: I wrote the paper on Canonical - I had to pick a specific company so I picked my favorite. If I can get ANY screenshot of 8,000+ unread messages, that'd work
[04:49] <spm> MTecknology: generate one for yourself? $ for i in `seq 1 1 8564` ; do mailx -s "fake unread email $i" me ; done ???
[04:49] <MTecknology> lol... ok
[04:50] <spm> heh. or just "gimp-shop" it :-D
[04:50] <beuno> MTecknology, kiko is your best shot
[04:50] <beuno> he always keeps his unread emails in the hundreds of thousands
[04:50] <spm> beuno: but that's cause he likes to brag ;-)
[04:51] <MTecknology> 1hr left to finish this paper, I doubt that's enough time for him to pop in. But that would be perfect.
[04:53] <beuno> spm, yes. And hasn't learned to type with both hands on different keyboards yet
[04:54] <ajmitch> beuno: that makes my ~90k unread ubuntu bug emails seem tame :)
[04:54] <beuno> hey hey ajmitch!
[04:54] <beuno> how's the southern islands?
[04:55] <ajmitch> good, cold :)
[04:55] <ajmitch> how are you?
[04:56] <beuno> kinda warm, actually
[04:57] <beuno> autumn is late here
[05:04] <MTecknology> hurray when the power dies
[05:55] <thumper> MTecknology: I do have to say that with respect to email, I do stay on top of everything that I have to
[05:56] <thumper> MTecknology: much of the unread stuff is mailing lists that are optional
[05:56] <thumper> MTecknology: and sometimes only occasionally interesting
[05:56] <thumper> MTecknology: from my point of view anyway
[05:56] <MTecknology> thumper: paper is due in 4min. I just submitted it :)
[05:56] <MTecknology> thanks though :)
[05:57] <thumper> MTecknology: I didn't expect to change your mind on anything :)
[05:57] <thumper> MTecknology: I just didn't want you to think that I sit with 8000 emails I should have read
[05:58] <MTecknology> I figured it was lists
[07:20] <poolie> thumper: jam cites "provides an email when the patch is landed" as an advantage of BB over lp reviews
[07:20] <poolie> does lp do that, or is there a bug for it, or should i file one?
[07:24] <poolie> filed bug 372044
[07:26] <jml> poolie: wasn't my idea!
[07:27] <poolie> jml: to do it or not to do it?
[07:27] <jml> poolie: to call it 'bugger'
[07:29] <poolie> oh right, yes :)
[07:29] <thumper> not bugger ok?
[07:29] <thumper> we have the user, lets use that
[07:29] <thumper> poolie: it was a decision at the time not to, which in hind sight is wrong
[07:34]  * wgrant disagrees with that decision too - I had a lazr.restful branch merged a couple of weeks ago without being notified, when I should have been notified twice.
[07:35] <wgrant> (once for the branch status change, once for MP status change)
[07:36] <poolie> thumper: no problem at all
[07:36] <poolie> i just wanted to avoid filing if it was already there or whatever
[07:48] <poolie> hm i wonder if the tour should link to real examples of the things being discussed
[07:48] <poolie> like a team or merge proposal
[07:48] <poolie> or in some cases invite you to try it out on staging?
[07:48] <poolie> it's a bit arid...
[07:48] <poolie> by which i mean, you can't really do anything in the tour except gawp at it
[07:51] <poolie> staging is giving "error connecting"...
[07:51] <poolie> spm^^
[07:52] <spm> poolie: yeah - the restore ker-spatted nicely. had taken out the main staging db, but not yet swapped in the new. am manually recovering atm. eta unknown.
[07:53] <poolie> kk thanks
[07:54] <poolie> roll on site-wide notifications
[07:54] <poolie> actually i wonder if it would help if there was a way to put text into the "computer says no" page...
[07:54] <poolie> i suspect most people shrug rather than asking on irc
[07:56] <spm> poolie: would have to be an improvement over simply returning the servers name. such that with a disk full error "http://minister.NAMELESS_DEPARTMENT.gov.au/" ==> "DONKEY" in 64pt font - when you have servers named on a shrek theme.
[07:57] <poolie> lolol oh i wish i'd seen that
[07:58] <spm> poo hit the fan. they thought they'd been hacked :-D
[07:59] <spm> poolie: staging is back
[08:04] <poolie> cool
[08:05] <poolie> jml: is the feature of starting a new MP by sending a bundle landed or not? i'm confused
[08:06] <jml> poolie: I believe it has been landed.
[08:07] <jml> I could be wrong.
[08:07] <poolie> ok thanks
[08:07] <poolie> just not documented
[08:07] <poolie> actually aaron did speak of it as working so i suppose it is
[11:42] <Riddell> are private PPAs broken?  I can't view kubuntu-ninjas PPA
[11:43]  * noodles775 tries to view the soyuz private ppa
[11:44] <noodles775> Riddell: nope... I can view the soyuz private ppa... but
[11:44] <noodles775> if you've got builds currently building in it, it could be that the page is timing out... we're working on fixing this now...
[11:44] <Riddell> that could be it
[11:46] <noodles775> Riddell: sorry about that :/
[11:48] <noodles775> Riddell: actually, I think the timeout is related to the number of packages displayed, try adding the following to the end of your ppa url:
[11:48] <noodles775> ?batch=1
[11:50] <Riddell> noodles775: that works
[11:50] <Riddell> if a bit limiting :)
[11:51] <noodles775> Riddell: yep, it is limiting :(, but the search should work from there too.
[11:52] <Riddell> right enough, thanks
[11:55] <rodrigo_> hi
[11:55] <rodrigo_> can launchpad be used for commercial projects?
[11:58] <intellectronica> rodrigo_: yes, for a modest fee
[11:58] <rodrigo_> any url I could point my friend interested oin that to?
[11:59] <bryanl_> what's the different between launchpad and sourceforge?
[11:59] <intellectronica> rodrigo_: it is best to talk about this with bac "Brad Crittenden <<bac@canonical.com>". let me see if there's a url with some info
[12:00] <bac> intellectronica, rodrigo_:  have a look at https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+faq/208
[12:01] <rodrigo_> ok thanks
[12:01] <bac> rodrigo_: and please have your friend email me if he has questions
[12:01] <intellectronica> bryanl_: there are many differences, but LP is much more geared towards collaborative development, and tends to be a lot more sophisticated in the features it offers. sourceforge is more basic, but gives you a bit more freedom, for example, to host your own pages. in a way they are complementary services
[12:02] <bryanl_> Thanks
[12:24] <SiDi> Hey people. If there's any LP admin around, it'd be kind if they could have a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/70020 and give me an answer on it. Thanks in advance
[12:26] <leonardr> SiDi, go ahead and reject the question
[12:27] <SiDi> leonardr: thanks
[12:27] <SiDi> i do think it should be stated in the terms of use though. Imo theres a lack
[12:27] <kiko> SiDi, I'm going to talk to joey about that today.
[12:28] <SiDi> Thanks :)
[12:28] <james_w> are publishing records from getPublishedSources returned in a strict ordering, or do I have to compare versions to be sure?
[12:30] <noodles775> james_w: they're ordered by sourcepackagename.name and then descending SPPH.id
[12:31] <james_w> I'm looking for a way to get the earliest SPPH for each sourcepackage.name, it would be great if that was always [0]
[12:31] <james_w> can I assume that?
[12:32] <kiko> james_w, the earliest meaning the first ever in history?
[12:32] <Ampelbein> SiDi: couldn't it be that the user in question 69455 tries to run the demo of l4d?
[12:32] <james_w> kiko: yeah, I want to examine the changelog of the first version of each package to land in Ubuntu
[12:32] <SiDi> Ampelbein: come on :) check the other questions from the user. And i actually don't think theres an l4d demo
[12:33] <SiDi> Ampelbein: demos from steam are distributed through steam, not uTorrent, also.
[12:33] <james_w> (which isn't the same thing as the first entry in the changelog of the current version in Ubuntu)
[12:34] <Ampelbein> SiDi: where did he mention utorrent? he mentions a youtube-video (which i also found, it's about the demo) and that he downloaded it.
[12:34] <noodles775> james_w: afaics, given the above ordering, the SPPH with the smallest id should always be [-1]?
[12:34] <noodles775> (assuming that you're not passing in a version param to getPublishedSources)
[12:34] <james_w> ah, descending, yeah, sorry
[12:35] <SiDi> Ampelbein: title of the question
[12:35] <Ampelbein> SiDi: ah, there. right.
[12:35] <james_w> noodles775: but you imply smallest id is the oldest?
[12:35] <SiDi> Ampelbein: i hit my head a few good times on a wall before deciding if the question should be rejected or not ;)
[12:36] <noodles775> james_w: yep, that's just an assumption.
[12:37] <james_w> ok, I'll go with that then, thanks
[12:37] <noodles775> james_w: ie, I'm assuming that the smaller the id, the earlier it was created, but not necessarily published.
[12:37] <noodles775> np.
[12:37] <Ampelbein> SiDi: ok. i guess i don't suspect people to steal software since i am  used to linux and free software for so long ;-) good job.
[12:37] <noodles775> james_w: scratch that last comment... it's the SPPH after all...
[12:38] <james_w> noodles775: I'm having immense trouble getting every publication and sorting, so a shortcut would be very helpful
[12:38] <kiko> james_w, it's definitely true that the first SPPH is the first time the package was published
[12:38] <james_w> kiko: good, thanks. That should help
[12:38] <kiko> james_w, in part because of policy (packages go into the release pocket before anywhere else)
[12:39] <kiko> james_w, we could probably offer you a shortcut if you are doing lots of round-tripping, so keep us in the loop as to your results
[12:39] <james_w> it's a throwaway thing, so not worth modifying launchpad for
[12:40] <james_w> but if I keep having trouble like this then an SQL query may be very much appreciated
[12:40] <noodles775> james_w: sorry, just realised an extra ordering that gets inserted if you do *not* request a specific version...
[12:41] <james_w> should I file a bug saying that I keep getting 503 when using the API, or is that not really a code bug?
[12:41] <noodles775> In that case the ordering is: ['SourcePackageName.name', desc SPR.version, desc SPPH.id]. Hope that helps.
[12:42] <james_w> ah, that's probably even more reliable then
[12:42] <james_w> as long as backports don't screw me
[12:50] <lifeless> is lp known down ?
[12:50] <lifeless> just got a please-try-again message
[12:50] <lifeless> ah back now
[12:54] <leonardr> bryanl_: re "what's the different between launchpad and sourceforge?"
[12:55] <leonardr> imo the simplest way to say it is that sourceforge was designed for open source development in the first half of the 2000s
[12:55] <leonardr> and launchpad was designed for the second half of the 2000s
[12:55] <leonardr> the most obvious place that shows up is the distributed version control
[12:56] <persia> Well, the other big difference is that sourceforge offers a home page for the project.
[12:57] <wgrant> leonardr: Note that SF.net supports bzr and others now.
[12:57] <wgrant> leonardr: But it's pretty useless, because you can't push multiple branches.
[12:57] <wgrant> I also don't think SF.net was ever actually designed.
[12:59] <persia> wgrant, You forget the exciting new hosted application design methodologies that were popular at the time of site creation.
[13:05] <leonardr> wgrant: for sourceforge, dvcs is a feature on a checklist. the architecture isn't based around it
[13:05] <leonardr> s/architecture/workflow/
[13:34] <seb128> hi
[13:34] <seb128> launchpad (non beta) is being slow and timeout a lot, known issue?
[13:35] <intellectronica> seb128: url? oops?
[13:36] <seb128> random url, I get the message saying that the server had an issue and to contact the irc channel every few actions
[13:36] <seb128> when sending a comment or loading random bugs
[13:37] <intellectronica> seb128: but it's hard to tell what the issue is without referring to an oops. do you get an oops id quoted?
[13:37] <seb128> and pages loading takes a while
[13:37] <seb128> let me try again, it works after reloading
[13:37] <seb128> but I keep running into those and it's sloooow
[13:38] <intellectronica> seb128: and if you use edge, is it any better?
[13:38] <seb128> I've stopped using edge since yesterday since it doesn't want to keep my login for some reason
[13:38] <intellectronica> seb128: ???
[13:38] <seb128> ie I'm not logged as my user when I change page
[13:39] <intellectronica> seb128: have you got cookies enabled (and not blocked for edge.launchpad.net via some mechanism)?
[13:40] <intellectronica> seb128: if launchpad doesn't work for you, then it might not work for other people too, so please do report bugs
[13:40] <seb128> intellectronica: I've done nothing special, on monday I was not authentified on launchpad, I re-enter my login password, changed pages and was not authentified again
[13:40] <seb128> that's what I'm doing now ;-)
[13:40] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-applets/+bug/361202
[13:40] <seb128> just gave me a
[13:40] <wgrant> Erm.
[13:40] <wgrant> LP is borked again.
[13:40] <seb128> "
[13:40] <seb128> Please try again
[13:40] <seb128> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[13:40] <seb128> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[13:40] <seb128> Thanks for your patience.
[13:40] <seb128> "
[13:40] <wgrant> Yep.
[13:40] <seb128> no OOPS
[13:40] <wgrant> Third time this week.
[13:40] <seb128> I can't give a lot of details
[13:40] <seb128> I just get that every 7-8 page loads
[13:40] <intellectronica> seb128: could it be that you've logged in to launchpad.net, but was then redirected to edge? remember that they don't use the same cookie
[13:40] <seb128> pedro confirmed having the same issue
[13:41] <wgrant> Yes, one of the appserver instances at least is broken, again.
[13:41] <intellectronica> seb128, wgrant: right, that seems quite serious. let me check what's going on
[13:41] <seb128> intellectronica: I can try that, the timeout issue is on non-edge
[13:41] <wgrant> Bug 360846, maybe?
[13:42] <wgrant> That has been the cause the last couple of times.
[13:42] <seb128> intellectronica: archive admin lpcookies files are also not working today, at list pitti complained and mine is not working either ... did you do any change which requires updating cookies?
[13:43] <wgrant> seb128: The session table was cleared over the weekend, I believe.
[13:43] <wgrant> So no old cookies will be valid.
[13:43] <seb128> ok, that explain the cookie issue
[13:44] <intellectronica> seb128, wgrant: yeah, i can get these errors on production. i think edge is ok, so use that for now, i'll find out what's going on with production
[13:44] <seb128> intellectronica: ok, forget about the cookie issue I probably entered my login on the frontpage the other day
[13:45] <wgrant> LP has been very unreliable this past couple of weeks :(
[13:46] <seb128> I'm using edge usually which is working fine here
[13:48] <wgrant> edge is often hit by this too.
[13:48] <wgrant> Just not this time.
[13:52] <stuk_gen> hi,
[13:52] <stuk_gen> is down now?
[13:53] <stuk_gen> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server
[13:54] <wgrant> stuk_gen: That's known - just try again.
[13:54] <intellectronica> stuk_gen: there's some problem with the main servers. until it's fixed, you can use edge.launchpad.net instead, or just try again
[14:02] <stuk_gen> thx
[15:19] <J_Litewski> i'm having troubles pushing my branch into launchpad
[15:20] <beuno> J_Litewski, what's the problem?
[15:21] <J_Litewski> i can't do it :P
[15:21] <beuno> that's a little bit tu vague to help you
[15:21] <J_Litewski> i tried bzr push and bzr+ssh://, no dice
[15:22] <beuno> J_Litewski, again, need specific
[15:22] <beuno> *specifics
[15:22] <beuno> what happens?
[15:23] <J_Litewski> for bzr push, i get a 'not a directory' error, and for bxr+ssh://, i get a bash error
[15:24] <J_Litewski> *bzr+ssh://
[15:24] <beuno> J_Litewski, can you please paste in exact commands you're running?
[15:25] <SiDi> J_Litewski: bzr push bzr+ssh://you@bazaar.launchpad.net/~you/+junk/foo
[15:25]  * SiDi hopes he's right =P
[15:26] <beuno> it's actually just:  bzr push lp:~username/project/branchname
[15:26] <J_Litewski> stupid wireless card
[15:26] <J_Litewski> beuno, thats what i used, with the correct values
[15:26] <J_Litewski> bzr push lp:~hackhalotwo/manual/prototype
[15:26] <beuno> J_Litewski, so, please paste the error you're getting
[15:27] <beuno> J_Litewski, have you done:  bzr launchpad-login USERNAME?
[15:27] <J_Litewski> no
[15:27] <J_Litewski> heh
[15:27] <J_Litewski> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/hackhalotwo/".
[15:27] <beuno> J_Litewski, right, so you have to be *in* the branch directory to push it
[15:28] <J_Litewski> ok
[15:28] <boredandblogging> bac: ping
[15:28] <bac> hi boredandblogging
[15:29] <J_Litewski> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/home/hackhalotwo/Projects/Python/".
[15:29] <J_Litewski> bzr push lp:~hackhalotwo/manual/prototype
[15:29] <J_Litewski> i'm in the directory of my project
[15:29] <beuno> J_Litewski, but
[15:29] <beuno> bzr is asking you
[15:29] <beuno> is it a branch?
[15:30] <beuno> have you created a local bzr branch?
[15:30] <J_Litewski> ah
[15:30] <J_Litewski> no
[15:30] <J_Litewski> this is my first project, so i'm new at this lol
[15:30] <beuno> J_Litewski, https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto
[15:30] <J_Litewski> ty beuno
[15:31] <beuno> :)
[17:05] <davideotape> Is anyone else having problems with launchpad at the moment?
[17:06] <intellectronica> davideotape: what kind of problems?
[17:06] <intellectronica> davideotape: and you totally win the nickname of the week award ;)
[17:09] <davideotape> Haha, cheers
[17:09] <davideotape> It's just unreliable at the moment
[17:09] <davideotape> Seems to be hit and miss whether it's working
[17:12] <intellectronica> davideotape: right, but when it's not working, what to do you get?
[17:12] <intellectronica> davideotape: what URLs are not working for you? do you get an OOPS? or just a "please try again later" message? are you using edge, or the normal servers?
[17:12] <davideotape> The usual thing that comes up, saying if this problem persists report in IRC
[17:12] <davideotape> It seems to be okay now
[17:13] <davideotape> Oh, and please try again later.
[17:37] <kirkland> is it basically impossible to rename a project in launchpad?
[17:41] <leonardr> kirkland: you need to get an admin to do it
[17:41] <leonardr> ask it as a question in launchpad and i'll assign it to an admin
[17:41] <kirkland> leonardr: okay, so it is possible?
[17:41] <leonardr> yes, it's possible
[17:41] <kirkland> leonardr: same for a team?
[17:43] <leonardr> kirkland, yes
[17:43] <kirkland> leonardr: okay thanks.  i have a bit more homework to do before i decide if this is want i need to do
[17:43] <leonardr> all right
[17:50] <hongry_> hi folk
[17:50] <hongry_> s
[17:58] <hongry_> does anyone here happen to know where I can find the cucumber-nagios project files for install?  They do not appear to be available any longer through launchpad.
[17:58] <hongry_> any help is appreciated.
[18:08] <leonardr> hongry_: i recommend contacting the administrator of the cucumber-nagios project: https://edge.launchpad.net/~lindsay
[18:15] <lezem> Hi all, I'd like to know if it is possible to download launch-suite and run it locally on you own server.
[18:16] <lezem> launchpad-suite, I mean
[18:18] <SiDiHatesCpp> lezem: at the moment no
[18:34] <xcitu> Hi, can anyone help me? I got problems with internet connection in newly installed Ubuntu 9.04
[18:34] <xcitu> or 9.10, dont remember
[18:35] <Ampelbein> xcitu: use #ubuntu for general support
[18:36] <Ampelbein> xcitu: this is a channel for problems and questions about launchpad itself.
[18:38] <xcitu> Thanks
[19:34] <casetj> launchpad down? any reason for the lag?
[19:35] <beuno> mthaddon, ^
[19:35] <beuno> I can't get to it either
[19:36] <casetj> ah, seems okay now: had some fear there was a new ubuntu release or something...
[19:36] <casetj> it crippled launchpad last time
[19:40] <savvas> is launchpad using mysql or postgresql?
[19:40] <SiDi> It uses oracle sqlplus
[19:40]  * SiDi is out.
[19:41] <savvas> hehe
[19:42] <spirit> hi!!
[19:44] <quirxi> :)
[19:45] <spirit> hey I'm find some problem in my ubuntu
[19:46] <BUGabundo> hya
[19:46] <spirit> no connection  to internet now i'm in other machine
[19:46] <BUGabundo> usual nagger here
[19:46] <BUGabundo> LP is slowwwww
[19:46] <BUGabundo> leonardr: what's up with it ?
[19:46] <spirit> this computer is very fast I think
[19:47] <leonardr> BUGabundo: we're not sure, there are some intermittent issues with the app servers that always clear up
[19:49] <savvas> ok let me change my question, which databases does launchpad support? :)
[19:50] <savvas> I'm the only one whose launchpad works I guess :P
[19:51] <leonardr> savvas, the launchpad application uses postgres
[19:51] <jbalint> hey, any way to pull a zip of the latest source for a branch from launchpad?
[19:51] <savvas> ok thanks :)
[19:51] <savvas> jbalint: why zip specifically?
[19:51] <savvas> ah wait, misunderstood, sorry :)
[19:52] <BUGabundo> savvas: then remove the dupe from https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/367457
[19:52] <jbalint> s/zip/tar/
[19:52] <BUGabundo> ohh it was changed again...
[19:52] <BUGabundo> now I need to see the new dupe
[19:53] <savvas> BUGabundo: try through email :)
[19:53] <savvas> https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface
[19:53] <BUGabundo> savvas: someone changed the dupe... need to make sure its fine now
[19:53] <BUGabundo> someone set it as a dupe of #1
[19:54] <BUGabundo> savvas: I know very well about emailinterface
[19:54] <savvas> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/367457/+text
[19:54] <savvas> this shows the text and the rest
[19:54] <savvas> duplicate-of: 369850
[19:54] <BUGabundo> timeout here
[19:54] <savvas> ok so what's the change required?
[19:55] <savvas> dupe to #1 ?
[19:55] <BUGabundo> savvas: see history of the bug
[19:56] <savvas> here's the +text: http://paste.ubuntu.com/165069/
[19:57] <savvas> 05 May 09 09:22  	Till Kamppeter  	removed duplicate marker  	1  	 	
[19:57] <savvas> 05 May 09 09:24 	Till Kamppeter 	marked as duplicate 		369850
[19:57] <BUGabundo> Please try again                    Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[19:58] <BUGabundo> time to go
[19:58] <savvas> I misunderstood him heh
[20:05] <Orlsend> Hello I am unable to log in to my account.
[20:05] <Orlsend> I was redirected here...
[20:06] <spirit_> hey Orlsend
[20:06] <spirit_> refresh the site
[20:07] <Orlsend> Yeah I cleared my cache it just worked...
[20:07] <Orlsend> Thanks!
[20:07] <spirit_> your welcome
[20:23] <Orlsend> Any Idea why launchpad is failing?
[20:23] <Orlsend> I keep getting the same error
[20:41] <adzinok> hi! how to request kubuntu?
[20:44] <salgado> adzinok, https://shipit.kubuntu.org
[20:45] <sproaty> hey is my commit message getting cut off in the left box for anyone else -- http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~sproaty/whyteboard/development/revision/79  - firefox 3.0.10, ubuntu 9.04
[20:45] <sproaty> or flowing into the file list, rather
[20:47] <adzinok> salgado: "Request changed successfully." thanks :)
[20:50] <Orlsend> Do they also ship Edubuntu?
[20:53] <salgado> Orlsend, not anymore -- Edubuntu has to be downloaded
[20:53] <Orlsend> :S
[20:54] <Orlsend> Does the normal Ubuntu live CD jas the KDE enviroment also?
[20:54] <ripps> Strange, it appear some packages in the gmpc-trunk ppa weren't signed, I get an unathenticated package warning
[20:58] <salgado> Orlsend, nope, but you can install KDE after booting the live CD
[22:19] <maxb> Is there an admin here who would be able to rescore a PPA build for me?
[22:19] <maxb> It failed, so I fixed the dependency issue and asked for a retry, but that means the build score is zero
[22:19] <maxb> With the current contention for builders, it'll never manage to get to the top of the queue
[22:20] <maxb> https://launchpad.net/~mercurial-stable-snapshots/+archive/staging/+build/987742 is the build
[22:45] <maxb> sysvbanner is build has hung on amd64 now (crested)
[22:46]  * maxb tries again with proper grammar
[22:46] <maxb> sysvbanner build has hung on amd64 now (crested)
[23:32] <wgrant> spm: One of the appservers seems to need kicking, again.
[23:33] <spm> wgrant: edge?
[23:34] <wgrant> spm: lpnet
[23:34] <wgrant> edge seems to be happy for now.
[23:38] <jkakar> I'm running into the AbstentContentFactory bug, trying to get a branch from Launchpad.
[23:38] <jkakar> Is there a work-around...?
[23:39] <jkakar> Actually, I should probably find the bug report about it first..
[23:39]  * jkakar looks
[23:39] <mwhudson> jkakar: nosmart+bzr+ssh://bazaar....
[23:39] <beuno> jkakar, read #landscape  :)
[23:39] <jkakar> mwhudson: Hah, nice.  "stopbeingclever+..." :)  Thanks!
[23:39] <mwhudson> right
[23:40] <spm> wgrant: one seemed to be semi intermittant - have given a theraputic (for me) kicking. let me know if you notice it still?
[23:43] <wgrant> spm: Thanks.
[23:48] <ArtiShow> bonsoir
[23:50] <ArtiShow> personne ?
[23:52] <beuno> ArtiShow, what can we help you with?
[23:54] <ArtiShow> i can't to log in on shipit, on my account beuno
[23:54] <beuno> ArtiShow, what's the problem?
[23:57] <ArtiShow> i want to request a cd of ubuntu9.04 but, it tells "Sorry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[23:57] <ArtiShow> You are not logged in." ?? beuno
[23:58] <beuno> ArtiShow, and can you log in?