| BUGabundo | need a Pidgin user (or just about anyone who want to help) to test me a bug | 00:12 |
|---|---|---|
| BUGabundo | on 9.10 of course | 00:12 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, im in | 00:25 |
| billybigrigger | Pidgin 2.5.5 | 00:25 |
| billybigrigger | oops, nvmd, thought that read 9.04 and then seen what channel i was in :P | 00:26 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: np. maybe you can confirm it non the less | 00:26 |
| billybigrigger | lets try | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | $ gdb --args pidgin -n -m -c /tmp/122 | 00:27 |
| BUGabundo | create a NEW profile, added a single XMPP account, enabled MyStatusBox, changed avatar, got a crash. | 00:27 |
| billybigrigger | what protocol is xmpp? | 00:28 |
| billybigrigger | i need a new xmpp account i take it | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: its jabber | 00:28 |
| BUGabundo | just add fake data | 00:28 |
| billybigrigger | you want me to run that command first | 00:29 |
| billybigrigger | ? | 00:29 |
| billybigrigger | k your asking the wrong person :P | 00:30 |
| billybigrigger | i can find anything to do with mystatusbox, its not a plugin is it? cause i dont have it listed | 00:30 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: if you can | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | that just makes pidgin start a new profile | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | so its CLEAN | 00:32 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: you may need to install pidgin-plugin-pack | 00:33 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo apt-get install pidgin-plugin-pack | 00:33 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: (no debugging symbols found) | 00:39 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo apt-get install pidgin-gdb | 00:40 |
| ienorand | And I'm on 9.04 as well, not ready for the leap... (or rather, have no extra usb-stick to try it out on...) | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: try it on HD with KVM | 00:41 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: might that package only be in Karmic? | 00:41 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 00:42 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Also, exams are coming up, so I'm kinda deferring that amount of tinkering 'til afterwards... | 00:43 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: ah it whas pidgin-dbg not gdb | 00:43 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 00:44 |
| BUGabundo | 1am typo | 00:44 |
| ienorand | http://www.mibbit.com/pb/MADJpg << that's confirmed then? (hangs as soon as open button pressed in browser) | 00:47 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: yep | 00:49 |
| ienorand | That's a funky way to crash an app, is there a bug on this? | 00:51 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: still have it running? | 00:52 |
| BUGabundo | if so, type bt full | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo | and copy the all thing to bug 371898 | 00:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371898 in purple-plugin-pack "adding an avatar makes pidgin crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371898 | 00:53 |
| BUGabundo | and $ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 | 00:54 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: ping | 00:55 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: do I want to continue after bt full or has it dumped eferythin necessary? | 00:55 |
| BUGabundo | keep pressing Enter | 00:56 |
| BUGabundo | until its all done | 00:57 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Hmm I need to learn gdb someday... and do I just quit then, does gdb save log automatically, where? | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: it doesn't save | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | just copy from TTY to the bug | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | and don't forget | 00:59 |
| BUGabundo | and $ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 | 00:59 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Best to add as comment or attachment? | 01:03 |
| BUGabundo | attac | 01:04 |
| ienorand | Let's see if that worked, still not found a really effective way to interact with lp. | 01:14 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: you forgot the version... | 01:16 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: $ apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0 | 01:16 |
| BUGabundo | oh its attached | 01:16 |
| BUGabundo | oka | 01:16 |
| kklimonda | hmm.. is there any way to test mail interface for LP without spamming database? | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: no | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | stagging doesn't accept email | 01:17 |
| BUGabundo | but you can test it | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 01:18 |
| kklimonda | crap, that what I was "arfraid" of ;) | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | I doub staggind.lp.net as MX records | 01:18 |
| kklimonda | Maybe I'll just spam bug #1 ;) | 01:18 |
| ubottu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Timeout) | 01:18 |
| kklimonda | :D | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: you are not the 1st.... | 01:18 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: Isn't there a non-persistent test section of lp? | 01:18 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: yep. its called stagging.launchpad.net | 01:19 |
| BUGabundo | !stagging | 01:19 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about stagging | 01:19 |
| kklimonda | staging has MX record.. | 01:19 |
| kklimonda | I'll ask @ #launchpad | 01:20 |
| === StooJ|Away is now known as StooJ | ||
| BUGabundo | ok | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: let me know after | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | last time I asked, they said no | 01:21 |
| kklimonda | what is mail address ? | 01:21 |
| kklimonda | now someone said "i think so" ;) | 01:21 |
| BUGabundo | humm something like new@bugs.stagging.lp.net ? | 01:22 |
| Pici | staging | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 01:22 |
| BUGabundo | 1:30 am typo | 01:22 |
| kklimonda | 1:30 AM? it's still early ;) | 01:23 |
| kklimonda | It's already 2:30 here ;) | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | not for someone who gets up at 7am | 01:23 |
| kklimonda | hehe | 01:23 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: just spammed #1 on staging | 01:26 |
| === Froad___ is now known as Froad | ||
| ienorand | Yea, seems like at least comment work though email on staging... | 01:33 |
| * ienorand wonders what's going to happen with the whole update-notification thing... The bug report is still going hot. | 01:48 | |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: I don't even read it any more | 01:48 |
| BUGabundo | 98 unread emails there | 01:48 |
| kklimonda | :D | 01:48 |
| kklimonda | which one is it? | 01:49 |
| ienorand | Bug #332945 | 01:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 332945 in null "[Jaunty] Update Notifier icon would provide useful status information" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/332945 | 01:49 |
| ienorand | Yea, pretty much everything is said by now, and notable is that there is a constant inflow of _new_ commenters and dupes. | 01:51 |
| BUGabundo | its DXs worse night mare | 01:52 |
| ienorand | Of all the things they could've removed, they took away the stone of scone | 01:55 |
| BUGabundo | bed time | 01:57 |
| BUGabundo | see you tommorow | 01:57 |
| === Froad_ is now known as Froad | ||
| === MTeck is now known as MTecknology | ||
| lanoxx- | hey, im always wondering why is the tux-button not utilized by default? like tux+E to open nautilus or tux+L to lock the screen | 06:59 |
| === MaWaLe1 is now known as MaWaLe | ||
| crdlb | lanoxx-: partly because not everybody has such a key, and partly because maic keybindings like that are not really usable (you can set them if you want them, but they're not discoverable) | 07:06 |
| Tefad | i don't have a tux key or a win key | 07:08 |
| Tefad | Model M represent. | 07:08 |
| crdlb | thinkpad :> | 07:08 |
| crdlb | though I did map caps lock to super | 07:09 |
| Tefad | IBM ftw? | 07:09 |
| lanoxx- | crdlb, you mean those keys are not automatically discovered by xev? | 07:09 |
| crdlb | huh? | 07:09 |
| Tefad | .. what keys? | 07:09 |
| Tefad | they literally aren't on the keyboard | 07:09 |
| crdlb | if a keyboard doesn't have a Super (mod4) key, then there's nothing you can do other than map a substitute to it | 07:10 |
| Tefad | i typically use right ctrl | 07:10 |
| lanoxx- | i have a win key, but i rather like to think of it as a tux key | 07:11 |
| crdlb | just call it super | 07:11 |
| crdlb | it's also the crazy symbol key on apple keyboards | 07:12 |
| Tefad | the apple logo? | 07:12 |
| Tefad | oh, command | 07:12 |
| Tefad | sort of like an octothorpe but more like a cloverleaf. | 07:12 |
| lanoxx- | wouldnt it be possible to discover the difference between a pc keyboard and a mac keyboards? doesnt the keyboard send some unique identifier or something? | 07:13 |
| Tefad | lanoxx-: huh? | 07:14 |
| Tefad | the keycodes are the same iirc. but the physical location varies slightly | 07:14 |
| lanoxx- | so then if we know the are on a pc keyboard we could configure the super/tux/win key | 07:14 |
| crdlb | lanoxx-: you're missing the point | 07:14 |
| Tefad | option(alt) and command are swapped. | 07:14 |
| crdlb | super does work on mac keyboards | 07:14 |
| Tefad | lemonade: the point we're trying to get through to you is that some keyboards lack a super key all together | 07:15 |
| lanoxx- | Tefad, i just mean because crdlb said on a mac keyboard its not usefull to configure the super key and thus it wouldnt be feasible to configure them | 07:15 |
| Tefad | such as my trusty IBM Model M. | 07:15 |
| Tefad | huh? | 07:15 |
| Tefad | lanoxx-: i suggest you reread your chat buffer. | 07:16 |
| lanoxx- | thats right, but then one can still fallback to ctrl+alt, or not? | 07:20 |
| Tefad | ctrl+alt is actually used for things too | 07:20 |
| Tefad | example in inkscape ctrl+alt+v copies in-place | 07:21 |
| lanoxx- | i know, just the super key not, btw i just tried to configure super(mod4)+E to open nautilus (home folder) in the gnome keyboard shortcuts menu | 07:21 |
| Tefad | that should work | 07:21 |
| lanoxx- | it doesnt work though, instead the windows align on the screen in a mac fashion style | 07:22 |
| Tefad | that has to do with your compositor | 07:22 |
| Tefad | it's stealing the hotkey | 07:22 |
| crdlb | yes, compiz gets super+e by default | 07:22 |
| lanoxx- | i guess so, where are the settings made in gnome? | 07:22 |
| lanoxx- | im just running on the normal level of effects | 07:23 |
| crdlb | but ubuntu seems to have patched things to get those options right there in the keyboard shortcuts dialog | 07:23 |
| lanoxx- | hmm, when was that change introduced? | 07:23 |
| crdlb | it's the last row in the Desktop category | 07:23 |
| lanoxx- | hmm, how do i set it do disabled? | 07:28 |
| crdlb | lanoxx-: try reading :P | 07:28 |
| lanoxx- | oh right | 07:28 |
| lanoxx- | haha | 07:28 |
| crdlb | it's only one sentence | 07:28 |
| lanoxx- | yeah, anyway still doesnt work, the compositing stuff is switched off now, but the home folder will still not open | 07:33 |
| crdlb | worksforme :) | 07:34 |
| crdlb | maybe karmic is broken :P | 07:34 |
| lanoxx- | im on intrepid actually | 07:35 |
| * crdlb coughs | 07:35 | |
| === StooJ is now known as StooJ|Away | ||
| nymtar | hi there, i have a problem with my thinkpad r60 and jaunty, the middle scroll isnt working, someone can help please? | 08:13 |
| thekorn | nymtar, better ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-de, we already switched to karmic here ;) | 08:16 |
| nymtar | thats fast :D | 08:17 |
| nymtar | kthxbye | 08:17 |
| isaac | uhm, kvm doesn't seem to work with karmic's kernel, anyone knows anything? | 08:22 |
| isaac | uhm, weird, my hardy image boots up, but my jaunty ones don't :( | 08:25 |
| === StooJ|Away is now known as StooJ | ||
| mib_c8pp57 | hi so is karmic crashign for anyone? | 12:21 |
| dns53 | karmic will be released in october, don't expect anything to work till september | 12:23 |
| mib_c8pp57 | dns53: actuaaly one shouldnt expect it to work till oct maybe even latr ;-) | 12:24 |
| dns53 | the first alphas sometimes work | 12:25 |
| SwedeMike | yeah, I used jaunty since alpha 1 or 2 and it only broke two times until being released | 12:25 |
| mib_c8pp57 | nyone here with a nokia n73 able to use it as a music player in karmic with rythmbox to add or remove songs? | 12:26 |
| dns53 | how does it connect usb as a mass storage? mtp? bluetooth? | 12:26 |
| mib_c8pp57 | when connecting the phone gives u a menu to choose from | 12:27 |
| mib_c8pp57 | mass storage works | 12:27 |
| mib_c8pp57 | i want to use it as a music device i think mtp is for that | 12:27 |
| mib_c8pp57 | right | 12:27 |
| mib_c8pp57 | when i do that it doesnt seem to work properly sometimes no respons/no change | 12:28 |
| mib_c8pp57 | sometimes rhtyhmbox crashes | 12:28 |
| mib_c8pp57 | any one else have this? | 12:28 |
| dns53 | so nothing shows up? it works for a bit then crashes? | 12:29 |
| mib_c8pp57 | it doesnt show up just crashes | 12:29 |
| mib_c8pp57 | doesnt work for a bit | 12:29 |
| dns53 | do the command line mtp tools work? | 12:30 |
| mib_c8pp57 | what is the empathy version for karmic right now? | 12:30 |
| mib_c8pp57 | dns53: what commd line tools havent tried any | 12:30 |
| dns53 | mtp-tools has a set of commands like mtp-detect | 12:32 |
| mib_c8pp57 | dns53: have u ever successfully used any mtp device on ubuntu? | 12:33 |
| dns53 | not yet, my sansa m250 is not supported but the m240 is so i'll try and see what changes i need to get that device working | 12:34 |
| mib_c8pp57 | dns53: ok best of luck | 12:40 |
| === thekorn_ is now known as thekorn | ||
| === yml_ is now known as yml | ||
| DanaG | changelog in alacarte: Version 0.11.10-1ubuntu1: * Merge from debian unstable (LP: #371280), remaining changes: | 16:58 |
| DanaG | !bug 371280 | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371280 in ubuntu "wirless button light in hp dv5" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371280 | 16:58 |
| DanaG | Doesn't seem like the right bug number in that one. | 16:58 |
| Pici | Indeed | 16:58 |
| Unggnu | hi all | 17:10 |
| Unggnu | Is it possible that pulse is broken in Karmic? | 17:10 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | Karmic is just getting started. It is possible everything is broken | 17:14 |
| Unggnu | :) | 17:14 |
| Unggnu | You know or you guess | 17:14 |
| Unggnu | with Pulse | 17:14 |
| charlie-tca | You asked if it is possible. The answer is yes, it is possible. | 17:17 |
| Unggnu | Man, you know what I mean ;) | 17:17 |
| Unggnu | everything is possible :-D | 17:17 |
| DanielRM | How do I go about reporting a packaging bug for Karmic? Is it just a matter of tagging it with [karmic] at the beginning of the bug title? | 17:41 |
| DanielRM | I've reported bugs before but only for stable releases, so I don't know if there's a special procedure. | 17:41 |
| Pici | DanielRM: Aparrently they don't like for us to put [releasename] in the bug report names. | 17:42 |
| DanielRM | Pici: I just noticed a bug report in which someone changed one without a release name to one with... Any idea what the proper procedure is? :( | 17:43 |
| DanielRM | I've edited the control file to fix it; just really a case of bringing it to attention now. | 17:44 |
| Pici | DanielRM: I think just including the release name in the bug description is enough | 17:44 |
| DanielRM | Pici: I'll give that a try then. Thanks. :) | 17:45 |
| Pici | DanielRM: #ubuntu-bugs might have a more concise answer than I do though | 17:45 |
| BUGabundo | hu | 17:54 |
| BUGabundo | *hi | 17:54 |
| BUGabundo | don't you guys hate regressions? | 17:54 |
| BUGabundo | grrr | 17:54 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: ping | 17:54 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: so does staging accept email? I can't confirm it | 17:54 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: doesn't seem like it does | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | hehe | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | but indeed it does have MXs | 17:55 |
| ienorand | I was able to put a mailed comment on staging before... | 17:57 |
| DanielRM | Report made. | 17:59 |
| DanielRM | Pici: thanks for the help. | 17:59 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: I can't! and I tried once in the past, and last night again | 18:02 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: I managed to get one on https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/meshwork/+bug/2028 last night when you were discussing it... | 18:05 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 2028 in meshwork "Test bug" [Undecided,Invalid] | 18:05 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: I'll email that but too NOW | 18:05 |
| ienorand | I'm spamming it as well... | 18:06 |
| BUGabundo | huuuu kmail crash | 18:06 |
| BUGabundo | there we go again | 18:06 |
| BUGabundo | another 5 months running it on gdb | 18:07 |
| === elpargo_ is now known as elpargo | ||
| Unggnu | BUGabundo: use apport :) | 18:08 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: emailing 2028@bugs.staging.launchpad.net ? | 18:08 |
| BUGabundo | Unggnu: not to find WHY its crashing | 18:08 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: yup. | 18:08 |
| BUGabundo | usually its kde libs not matching | 18:08 |
| Unggnu | ok | 18:08 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: sent | 18:08 |
| BUGabundo | luckly one of my hardy bugs was fixed on jaunty | 18:10 |
| BUGabundo | grr on karmic | 18:10 |
| BUGabundo | but now i have 2 crashs and one regression | 18:10 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: my email simply doesn't get there | 18:11 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: It's there | 18:11 |
| BUGabundo | not when I check | 18:11 |
| BUGabundo | 2 secs ago | 18:11 |
| * BUGabundo ctr+f5ing it | 18:11 | |
| BUGabundo | ahhhh I SEE ITTTT | 18:12 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: I'll take it back... _some times_ it works | 18:12 |
| kklimonda | :) | 18:13 |
| BUGabundo | WOOT compiz is back on my nvidia and karmic | 18:25 |
| kklimonda | heh ;) | 18:27 |
| === Steeley is now known as NotNamedDan | ||
| skyjumper | is it normal for a system to seem frozen while swapping? | 18:37 |
| skyjumper | or during any heavy disk access | 18:37 |
| DanielRM | skyjumper: normal, yes. | 18:38 |
| DanielRM | skyjumper: desirable, obviously not. | 18:38 |
| DanielRM | skyjumper: I found that changing the I/O scheduler in the boot options helped. | 18:39 |
| BUGabundo | skyjumper: some apps do! | 18:39 |
| skyjumper | DanielRM: which one do like best? | 18:39 |
| DanielRM | skyjumper: I use elevator=deadline | 18:40 |
| DanielRM | skyjumper: I got that after reading a Red Hat article on the schedulers available; it seemed like the best choice for a desktop system. | 18:41 |
| DanielRM | skyjumper: it still slows quite a bit but not as bad as it used to. | 18:41 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: deadline? that's bad | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo | that's close to RT | 18:42 |
| BUGabundo | most apps will hog the system like that | 18:43 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: you mean in terms of throughput? | 18:45 |
| skyjumper | i wonder if lvm could be causing more latency | 18:45 |
| BUGabundo | skyjumper: shouldn't | 18:46 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: not only | 18:46 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: what else? It minimises latency, or at least aims to. I can't think of much else that's important. | 18:47 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: I'm asking only as someone with minimal knowledge, by the way; I'm not challenging you, just genuinely curious. :) | 18:47 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: well its great for sigle or very few apps | 18:48 |
| BUGabundo | and that need to be done NOW | 18:48 |
| BUGabundo | when using many apps at same time, like I have now | 18:48 |
| BUGabundo | it will be worse | 18:48 |
| BUGabundo | 'cause it will try to make all of them be below deadline for each | 18:49 |
| skyjumper | also looks like you can set the scheduler per-device | 18:49 |
| BUGabundo | and won't be able on most systems | 18:49 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: I can't imagine most desktop users will be running very many disk I/O intensive apps though. | 18:50 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: pidgin alone with some disk to disk copy or torrents finishing will make o remove that sentence | 18:52 |
| BUGabundo | pidgin is very IO sensible | 18:52 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: I've never experienced that with quite a few torrents going, although this is obviously a case of YMMV; I can't speak for Pidgin because I don't use it. | 18:53 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: also how fast your disks are makes a diff | 18:53 |
| BUGabundo | I'm on a 320GBs 8MiBs cache 5400RPMs laptop | 18:54 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: an old laptop HDD, not sure of the exact speed. Not particularly fast. | 18:54 |
| BUGabundo | try a dd on it | 18:54 |
| DanielRM | About 22 megs/s, which fits in with most writes I've done when moving files from an EHD. | 18:55 |
| DanielRM | Although it usually slows down after some time to hover around 19 megs/s. | 18:56 |
| BUGabundo | there's this really nice tool to really test it | 18:56 |
| BUGabundo | but I keep forgeting the name | 18:56 |
| BUGabundo | bonnie++ | 18:57 |
| DanielRM | Ah, I think Phoronix often use that. | 18:57 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: ienorand: kklimonda: run and pastebin this $ sudo hdparm -F -i -I -t -T --verbose /dev/sda | 18:57 |
| DanielRM | Oh, I didn't know hdparm could test speeds. | 18:58 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: http://pastebin.com/f67104524 | 18:58 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: that's why I'm letting you know | 18:59 |
| DanielRM | http://pastebin.com/d2624d55 | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | SG_IO: desc[] = {09 0c .. } | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | ATA_16 tf->status=0x50 tf->error=0x00 | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | this can't be good !!! | 19:00 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: I get the same. | 19:01 |
| BUGabundo | never saw it before | 19:01 |
| ienorand | main drive: http://pastebin.com/f4e835922 usb drive running ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/f1e3fe5a4 << seems like I'll have to go for another fsck... | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/165040/ | 19:02 |
| DanielRM | And I've got to go now. | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | why do you guys use pastebin.com and not paste.ubuntu.com ? | 19:02 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: pastebinit deafault :P | 19:02 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: force of habit. | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | ahh | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | I made an alias for it | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | alias pastebinit='pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com' | 19:03 |
| DanielRM | Hmmm, that's a good point. | 19:03 |
| DanielRM | I don't have pastebinit installed on this system. | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | DanielRM: that's a SLOWWWW disk | 19:03 |
| DanielRM | BUGabundo: I did say. :) | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | and kklimonda has a fast one! | 19:04 |
| kklimonda | i do? :) | 19:04 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: well, I've not used pastebinit enough to bother, and I also use mibbits dito quite a lot, since it's quick and easy... | 19:04 |
| BUGabundo | ohhhh ienorand what's that? 2.8M/s | 19:04 |
| DanielRM | Anyway, going now. | 19:05 |
| DanielRM | Speak later. | 19:05 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: failing usb stick? | 19:05 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: where do you see the 2.8 ? | 19:08 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: on one of the pastebins | 19:08 |
| ienorand | I must be blind then... | 19:09 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: You must be playing my mind here, 24mb/s is the only thing there *_* | 19:15 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: ~2.8... 2.77 something | 19:16 |
| skyjumper | this system's been swapping (unusable) for the past 7 minutes nonstop, while the panel's memory widget shows about 1/4 of the ram as cache | 19:16 |
| skyjumper | this can't possibly be normal? | 19:16 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: I should sleep more | 19:17 |
| BUGabundo | it was " 2838 MB" | 19:17 |
| BUGabundo | skyjumper: that's should be a memory leak | 19:17 |
| BUGabundo | skyjumper: install and run $ sudo atop 2 | 19:17 |
| skyjumper | a leak in the kernel? | 19:17 |
| BUGabundo | then press 'm' | 19:17 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: stop scaring me like that :P | 19:18 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: some times its good to feel a blood rush | 19:20 |
| BUGabundo | where intuitiveniple and cwille? | 19:20 |
| BUGabundo | didn't those guys come back to +1? | 19:20 |
| ienorand | BUGabundo: I haven't seen TJ here for ages... | 19:20 |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: yeah me neitehr | 19:20 |
| BUGabundo | time to email him | 19:21 |
| funkyHat | I've got a Jaunty pre-release VM that I want to upgrade to Karmic, will I get away with just upgrading it, or do I need to upgrade to the latest packages in Jaunty first? | 19:32 |
| BUGabundo | funkyHat: should work | 19:33 |
| BUGabundo | if it doesn't file bugs | 19:33 |
| BUGabundo | funkyHat: I think UM as been updated to accept kk | 19:33 |
| BUGabundo | so just try $ update-manager .d | 19:33 |
| BUGabundo | so just try $ update-manager -d | 19:33 |
| BUGabundo | and see if it works | 19:34 |
| BUGabundo | if it doesn't, sed the sources and dist-upgrade | 19:34 |
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| funkyHat | BUGabundo: yeah, UM's picking up 9.10 :) | 19:34 |
| BUGabundo | great | 19:34 |
| BUGabundo | guess I dist-upgrade 2 days to soon | 19:35 |
| BUGabundo | LOL | 19:35 |
| funkyHat | BUGabundo: my version of update-manager is from before Jaunty was released though (not sure when exactly, possibly even before beta) | 19:35 |
| BUGabundo | funkyHat: when you use -d it checks the archive list of availble versions | 19:36 |
| Pici | I always do my dist-upgrades before upgrading to a new release. | 19:37 |
| funkyHat | BUGabundo: ahh ok, I read something a while ago that made me think update-manager had the information packaged with it | 19:37 |
| BUGabundo | it does | 19:37 |
| funkyHat | Pici: I'm lazy though, and I didn't want to download 300MB of new packages for Jaunty when a good number of them would just be replaced straight away | 19:38 |
| Pici | funkyHat: I have a fast enough connection where I don't really care. | 19:38 |
| * BUGabundo feels like kicking joaopinto!!! I like what he has done with getdeb, but that's just too much!!! | 19:38 | |
| bjsnider | are there koala pasckages yet? | 19:39 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: yep | 19:39 |
| BUGabundo | me is runnning it already | 19:39 |
| bjsnider | which kernel? | 19:39 |
| BUGabundo | .30-2 | 19:39 |
| BUGabundo | Linux blubug 2.6.30-2-generic #3-Ubuntu SMP Fri May 1 01:37:37 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 19:39 |
| funkyHat | I don't have a spare computer I can run it on :( VM is fine though :) | 19:39 |
| bjsnider | they skipped over .29? | 19:40 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: yep | 19:40 |
| * ienorand is off to make a system backup and then nedlessly poke the koala until it bites. | 19:40 | |
| funkyHat | Odd numbered minor releases are less stable than even aren't they? | 19:40 |
| BUGabundo | yay ienorand | 19:40 |
| BUGabundo | join the bunch of crazy ppl | 19:41 |
| BUGabundo | funkyHat: not anymore | 19:41 |
| ienorand | Se ya on the other side :) | 19:41 |
| Pici | funkyHat: I don't believe thats true anymore. It used to be though. | 19:41 |
| BUGabundo | that's old history | 19:41 |
| funkyHat | Oh ok | 19:41 |
| funkyHat | Perhaps I've been using Linux for too long :D | 19:41 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 19:42 |
| funkyHat | I remember spending a day or two getting X to work with Slackware 4.something :D | 19:42 |
| funkyHat | (so not really all that long, I guess..) | 19:47 |
| bjsnider | is there a lamp server metapackage? | 19:49 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: not metapackage, just a tasksel | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: either $ sudo tasksel lamp or synaptic->Edit->select by task | 19:50 |
| bjsnider | sudo tasksel install lamp did nothing | 19:51 |
| kklimonda | !pl | 19:53 |
| ubottu | Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl | 19:53 |
| BUGabundo | bjsnider: did I said "install" ? | 19:55 |
| * ienorand is watching paint dry, also known as dd backup... | 19:59 | |
| BUGabundo | ienorand: ahaah | 19:59 |
| LordKow | i severely dislike source using hidden folders to store anything | 20:11 |
| ienorand | hmm, seems like u-m -d isn't working neither apt-get dist-upg, something I'm missing or should I just sed the sources.lst ? | 20:21 |
| BUGabundo | hi again | 21:34 |
| DanielRM | Back. | 21:59 |
| kklimonda | do you know if new networkmanager is going to support phones connected using BT from the box? | 22:42 |
| ikonia | kklimonda: I can't see it unless the bond is in place so it shows up as a modem | 22:43 |
| kklimonda | ikonia: so it's an issue of hal? | 22:43 |
| kklimonda | or even something else? | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: huge changes only for 0.8 | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | expect 2y coding | 22:44 |
| ikonia | kklimonda: no, just network manager, | 22:44 |
| BUGabundo | so 10.10 ? | 22:44 |
| kklimonda | I was without network connection last weekend and I couldn't make it work :/ | 22:44 |
| ikonia | kklimonda: I think it depends a lot on the phone and how it advertistes it'sself as a modem | 22:44 |
| kklimonda | all howtos were complicated.. too complicated to read them on the phone using opera mini ;) | 22:44 |
| ikonia | kklimonda: yes, I can apperciate that, however that's how it is at the moment | 22:45 |
| kklimonda | too bad, oh well - I'll carry an usb cable with me :) | 22:46 |
| ikonia | get an open phone like most nokia's or android and it may be easier | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | kklimonda: will the cable work? | 22:47 |
| ikonia | I have no problems with my nokia, but then thats quite known | 22:47 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: well.. it is detected by networkmanager.. | 22:47 |
| kklimonda | BUGabundo: i couldn't make it connect | 22:47 |
| kklimonda | ;) | 22:47 |
| kklimonda | ikonia: ya - my next phone is going to be a G1 probably | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | for me either G2 or the new Samsung Android (or what ever name it will get since google is been sued) | 22:48 |
| kklimonda | G2 lacks a hardware keyboard | 22:48 |
| kklimonda | and the rest of specs are the same as G1 afair | 22:48 |
| ikus060 | how can I list xorg options for radeon driver | 23:08 |
| BUGabundo | ikus060: AFAIK the GUI app for it is still not ready | 23:09 |
| ikus060 | I know, I'm looking for the Options, like Option "VideoKey" "integer" | 23:10 |
| BUGabundo | humm ubuntuforums down? | 23:12 |
| albert23 | ikus060: man radeon | 23:15 |
| ikus060 | hum, weird I don't see how to enable "Depth moves" | 23:17 |
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