Rocket2DMn | hey, where is the serverguide in the hardy branch? | 00:39 |
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Rocket2DMn | nvm found it | 00:44 |
Rocket2DMn | ping nhandler | 01:42 |
Rocket2DMn | nhandler, you there? | 01:47 |
Shane_Fagan | Is anyone looking after Bug #187133 ? | 01:49 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 187133 in ubuntu-docs "The section Listen to online audio streams is out-of-date and requires rework." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187133 | 01:49 |
Rocket2DMn | go for it Shane_Fagan | 01:55 |
Shane_Fagan | Sure im just about done now | 01:55 |
Shane_Fagan | Im updating the section on internet radio streams should I include info about vlc? | 02:11 |
Shane_Fagan | Ah ill just mention that other media players support internet radio streams | 02:14 |
Shane_Fagan | Its quite annoying that rhythmbox's future in ubuntu is so uncertain. I added banshee just in case. Can someone review my patch and see if its ok? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26334390/AudioStreams.diff | 02:24 |
nhandler | If I am giving an example command that should be entered in the terminal, how should I denote text that the user needs to input. For example, 'sudo apt-get install <package>'. Should I put the item the user needs to change in <>'s, make it italicized, or something else? | 04:05 |
persia | I always liked the use of monospace sans-serif for that, personally, but I don't know the relevant standards applied within the group. | 04:14 |
Shane_Fagan | mdke: *ping | 15:57 |
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Rocket2DMn | hey guys, did i move bug 371927 into the right package? | 22:42 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 371927 in gnome-user-docs "documentation Section 2.4.2 - Adding Workspaces" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371927 | 22:42 |
Rocket2DMn | it was in ubuntu-docs, but after much frustration not finding what the user was talking about, i downloading the lp:gnome-user-docs and found it there | 22:42 |
Shane_Fagan | DougieRichardson: I put up another diff for you :) | 22:50 |
Shane_Fagan | Bug #187133 | 22:52 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 187133 in ubuntu-docs "The section Listen to online audio streams is out-of-date and requires rework." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187133 | 22:52 |
DougieRichardson | Shane_fagan: hi, I'll take a look in a mo - in ubuntu-learning meeting | 22:56 |
Shane_Fagan | No bother take your time | 22:57 |
nhandler | What is the proper way to denote a placeholder in a command that the user needs to replace? For example, 'sudo apt-get install <package>' | 22:57 |
DougieRichardson | good question | 22:59 |
DougieRichardson | There isn't an example I can think of off the top of my head, is there anything in the command line section of the advanced topics? | 23:01 |
nhandler | I'll look in a little bit. I have a MOTU Meeting followed by a BT meeting followed by a Wiki FG meeting ;) | 23:01 |
dsas_ | Rocket2DMn: Assuming that link is correct then the bug is likely in the workspace-switcher manual itself, that's probably a part of the gnome-panel package iirc | 23:01 |
dsas_ | DougieRichardson: Think it can get away with using $USER etc | 23:02 |
DougieRichardson | I'll have a look too but from memory I'm inclined to think we don't use placeholders | 23:02 |
DougieRichardson | dsas_: hi mate, I dunno - people might feel the need to include the $ literal | 23:03 |
dsas_ | DougieRichardson: For the command line section that's ok | 23:03 |
dsas_ | echo $USER gives your username | 23:03 |
dsas_ | Re-reading that, my first line wasn't very clear. sorry | 23:04 |
DougieRichardson | agreed but if you did a sudo apt-get install $package-name it would bomb, wouldn't it? | 23:05 |
dsas_ | yes | 23:05 |
dsas_ | Sorry, wasn't suggesting it was a good idea to do that. Was just explaining what basic commands did | 23:05 |
DougieRichardson | oh sorry dude, long day | 23:05 |
dsas_ | Rocket2DMn: content being able to crash yelp is also a bug | 23:06 |
DougieRichardson | which bug | 23:09 |
dsas_ | DougieRichardson: 371927 | 23:11 |
dsas_ | DougieRichardson: bug 371927 | 23:11 |
ubot4` | Launchpad bug 371927 in gnome-user-docs "documentation Section 2.4.2 - Adding Workspaces" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371927 | 23:11 |
dsas_ | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549302 looks related | 23:11 |
ubot4` | Gnome bug 549302 in docs "Window List and Workspace Switch applet help title "Problem Showing Document"" [Minor,Unconfirmed] | 23:11 |
DougieRichardson | Is this not a yelp problem? | 23:14 |
DougieRichardson | Although, it might be worth double checking the relevant source, I've crashed yelp before with my text | 23:14 |
Rocket2DMn | dsas_, thanks for the response. there were a couple of packages i looked into for that | 23:18 |
dsas_ | Hmm, actually the source validates | 23:19 |
dsas_ | /usr/share/gnome/help/workspace-switcher/C/workspace-switcher.xml | 23:19 |
DougieRichardson | Have you cat it - its deprecated | 23:21 |
Rocket2DMn | dsas_, that file is not where the content is | 23:21 |
Rocket2DMn | dsas_, in the gnome2-user-guide source, the content is in gosoverview.xml | 23:22 |
Rocket2DMn | when i run "dpkg -S gosoverview.xml" i see gnome-user-guide | 23:22 |
dsas_ | heh, was just reading it, after validating it. Sorry you're right | 23:22 |
Rocket2DMn | but i saw more bugs filed against gnome-user-docs | 23:22 |
Rocket2DMn | although there isnt a gnome-user-docs package in ubuntu | 23:23 |
Rocket2DMn | i guess gnome-user-guide is the right package? | 23:23 |
dsas_ | Rocket2DMn: gnome-user-docs is the source package iirc. | 23:24 |
Rocket2DMn | i am horrible about finding my way through documents, i cnat seem to find a logical connection between how stuff appears in yelp and how the docs are laid out | 23:24 |
DougieRichardson | That file does crash yelp | 23:24 |
Rocket2DMn | it always takes me forever to find what im looking for when somebody files a bug | 23:24 |
dsas_ | Rocket2DMn: It is often tricky. Specially as the search isn't great either. | 23:25 |
Rocket2DMn | so we're sure it's gnome-user-guide? | 23:25 |
dsas_ | yep | 23:26 |
DougieRichardson | looks like it | 23:26 |
Rocket2DMn | lol gnome-user-guide isnt a valid option on lp | 23:26 |
dsas_ | gah | 23:27 |
dsas_ | it's gnome-user-docs | 23:27 |
Rocket2DMn | how do we know | 23:27 |
dsas_ | gnome-user-docs is the source package of gnome2-user-guide, the problem is either with that or with yelp | 23:28 |
Rocket2DMn | how did you find that out? | 23:28 |
Rocket2DMn | gnome2-user-guide isnt installed by default | 23:28 |
Rocket2DMn | only gnome-user-guide | 23:29 |
Rocket2DMn | man after 2 years i have yet to figure this packaging stuff out... | 23:29 |
dsas_ | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/gnome-user-guide | 23:30 |
dsas_ | at the bottom it says the source package. | 23:30 |
dsas_ | I think they renamed it from gnome2-user-guide to gnome-user-guide at some stage. | 23:30 |
Rocket2DMn | how did you navigate to that page exactly? | 23:32 |
Rocket2DMn | looks liek they replaced it after gutsy btw | 23:33 |
dsas_ | I searched for gnome-user-guide | 23:33 |
dsas_ | or something | 23:34 |
Rocket2DMn | ok, thanks | 23:34 |
dsas_ | I tend to search or hack the URLs, browsing LP is a pita | 23:34 |
dsas_ | dean@flik:/usr/share/gnome/help$ xmllint --noout --xinclude --noent --postvalid user-guide/C/gospanel.xml | 23:35 |
dsas_ | validity error : no DTD found! | 23:35 |
dsas_ | Document user-guide/C/gospanel.xml does not validate | 23:35 |
dsas_ | that is the correct file right2? | 23:35 |
Rocket2DMn | gosoverview.xml | 23:36 |
Shane_Fagan | DougieRichardson: So have you reviewed my patch? | 23:37 |
dsas_ | oh gah, I get validation errors all over that directory, user-guide.xml is the root of it | 23:37 |
dsas_ | doesn't seem right, as I can view most of it in yelp | 23:38 |
* dsas_ is confused | 23:38 | |
DougieRichardson | Its in one of the files it links to - one sec I think I see it | 23:40 |
Rocket2DMn | ok thanks dsas_ , i'll backtrace yelp later for that | 23:41 |
Rocket2DMn | gotta get food right now though | 23:41 |
DougieRichardson | dsas_:there's an anchor and title tag transposed - just looking for them | 23:45 |
dsas_ | hmm, just noticed my name is listed as an author of user-guide/C/user-guide.xml I don't remember adding that | 23:55 |
DougieRichardson | lol | 23:59 |
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