[00:39] hey, where is the serverguide in the hardy branch? [00:44] nvm found it [01:42] ping nhandler [01:47] nhandler, you there? [01:49] Is anyone looking after Bug #187133 ? [01:49] Launchpad bug 187133 in ubuntu-docs "The section Listen to online audio streams is out-of-date and requires rework." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187133 [01:55] go for it Shane_Fagan [01:55] Sure im just about done now [02:11] Im updating the section on internet radio streams should I include info about vlc? [02:14] Ah ill just mention that other media players support internet radio streams [02:24] Its quite annoying that rhythmbox's future in ubuntu is so uncertain. I added banshee just in case. Can someone review my patch and see if its ok? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26334390/AudioStreams.diff [04:05] If I am giving an example command that should be entered in the terminal, how should I denote text that the user needs to input. For example, 'sudo apt-get install '. Should I put the item the user needs to change in <>'s, make it italicized, or something else? [04:14] I always liked the use of monospace sans-serif for that, personally, but I don't know the relevant standards applied within the group. [15:57] mdke: *ping === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [22:42] hey guys, did i move bug 371927 into the right package? [22:42] Launchpad bug 371927 in gnome-user-docs "documentation Section 2.4.2 - Adding Workspaces" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371927 [22:42] it was in ubuntu-docs, but after much frustration not finding what the user was talking about, i downloading the lp:gnome-user-docs and found it there [22:50] DougieRichardson: I put up another diff for you :) [22:52] Bug #187133 [22:52] Launchpad bug 187133 in ubuntu-docs "The section Listen to online audio streams is out-of-date and requires rework." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/187133 [22:56] Shane_fagan: hi, I'll take a look in a mo - in ubuntu-learning meeting [22:57] No bother take your time [22:57] What is the proper way to denote a placeholder in a command that the user needs to replace? For example, 'sudo apt-get install ' [22:59] good question [23:01] There isn't an example I can think of off the top of my head, is there anything in the command line section of the advanced topics? [23:01] I'll look in a little bit. I have a MOTU Meeting followed by a BT meeting followed by a Wiki FG meeting ;) [23:01] Rocket2DMn: Assuming that link is correct then the bug is likely in the workspace-switcher manual itself, that's probably a part of the gnome-panel package iirc [23:02] DougieRichardson: Think it can get away with using $USER etc [23:02] I'll have a look too but from memory I'm inclined to think we don't use placeholders [23:03] dsas_: hi mate, I dunno - people might feel the need to include the $ literal [23:03] DougieRichardson: For the command line section that's ok [23:03] echo $USER gives your username [23:04] Re-reading that, my first line wasn't very clear. sorry [23:05] agreed but if you did a sudo apt-get install $package-name it would bomb, wouldn't it? [23:05] yes [23:05] Sorry, wasn't suggesting it was a good idea to do that. Was just explaining what basic commands did [23:05] oh sorry dude, long day [23:06] Rocket2DMn: content being able to crash yelp is also a bug [23:09] which bug [23:11] DougieRichardson: 371927 [23:11] DougieRichardson: bug 371927 [23:11] Launchpad bug 371927 in gnome-user-docs "documentation Section 2.4.2 - Adding Workspaces" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371927 [23:11] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=549302 looks related [23:11] Gnome bug 549302 in docs "Window List and Workspace Switch applet help title "Problem Showing Document"" [Minor,Unconfirmed] [23:14] Is this not a yelp problem? [23:14] Although, it might be worth double checking the relevant source, I've crashed yelp before with my text [23:18] dsas_, thanks for the response. there were a couple of packages i looked into for that [23:19] Hmm, actually the source validates [23:19] /usr/share/gnome/help/workspace-switcher/C/workspace-switcher.xml [23:21] Have you cat it - its deprecated [23:21] dsas_, that file is not where the content is [23:22] dsas_, in the gnome2-user-guide source, the content is in gosoverview.xml [23:22] when i run "dpkg -S gosoverview.xml" i see gnome-user-guide [23:22] heh, was just reading it, after validating it. Sorry you're right [23:22] but i saw more bugs filed against gnome-user-docs [23:23] although there isnt a gnome-user-docs package in ubuntu [23:23] i guess gnome-user-guide is the right package? [23:24] Rocket2DMn: gnome-user-docs is the source package iirc. [23:24] i am horrible about finding my way through documents, i cnat seem to find a logical connection between how stuff appears in yelp and how the docs are laid out [23:24] That file does crash yelp [23:24] it always takes me forever to find what im looking for when somebody files a bug [23:25] Rocket2DMn: It is often tricky. Specially as the search isn't great either. [23:25] so we're sure it's gnome-user-guide? [23:26] yep [23:26] looks like it [23:26] lol gnome-user-guide isnt a valid option on lp [23:27] gah [23:27] it's gnome-user-docs [23:27] how do we know [23:28] gnome-user-docs is the source package of gnome2-user-guide, the problem is either with that or with yelp [23:28] how did you find that out? [23:28] gnome2-user-guide isnt installed by default [23:29] only gnome-user-guide [23:29] man after 2 years i have yet to figure this packaging stuff out... [23:30] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/i386/gnome-user-guide [23:30] at the bottom it says the source package. [23:30] I think they renamed it from gnome2-user-guide to gnome-user-guide at some stage. [23:32] how did you navigate to that page exactly? [23:33] looks liek they replaced it after gutsy btw [23:33] I searched for gnome-user-guide [23:34] or something [23:34] ok, thanks [23:34] I tend to search or hack the URLs, browsing LP is a pita [23:35] dean@flik:/usr/share/gnome/help$ xmllint --noout --xinclude --noent --postvalid user-guide/C/gospanel.xml [23:35] validity error : no DTD found! [23:35] Document user-guide/C/gospanel.xml does not validate [23:35] that is the correct file right2? [23:36] gosoverview.xml [23:37] DougieRichardson: So have you reviewed my patch? [23:37] oh gah, I get validation errors all over that directory, user-guide.xml is the root of it [23:38] doesn't seem right, as I can view most of it in yelp [23:38] * dsas_ is confused [23:40] Its in one of the files it links to - one sec I think I see it [23:41] ok thanks dsas_ , i'll backtrace yelp later for that [23:41] gotta get food right now though [23:45] dsas_:there's an anchor and title tag transposed - just looking for them [23:55] hmm, just noticed my name is listed as an author of user-guide/C/user-guide.xml I don't remember adding that [23:59] lol