CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r997 intrepid-proposed/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Move mainline architectures to 2.6.27-14 kernels. | 09:26 |
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CIA-4 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r998 intrepid-proposed/debian/changelog: releasing version 20080522ubuntu29 | 09:42 |
CIA-4 | localechooser: cjwatson * r147 ubuntu/ (16 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 2.11 | 10:13 |
CIA-4 | localechooser: cjwatson * r148 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.11ubuntu1 | 10:16 |
wolferz | Is there a way to "undo" something synaptic did? | 10:32 |
davmor2 | wolferz: #ubuntu is the general channel for help this is a dedicated channel for the installer process | 10:34 |
wolferz | ahh, I apologize, I took install to be installations of packages as well as the actual distro | 10:35 |
davmor2 | wolferz: No sorry. #ubuntu will help though you may wish to point out what you did too though | 10:38 |
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corecode | hey | 12:09 |
corecode | cjwatson: you around? | 12:09 |
cjwatson | yes, though going out for lunch shortly. On IRC it's best to just talk and not mind if you don't get a response until hours later ... | 12:10 |
corecode | yah i know | 12:10 |
corecode | d-i partman-auto/method string lvm | 12:10 |
corecode | d-i partman-auto-lvm/guided_size string 20GB | 12:10 |
corecode | d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select atomic | 12:10 |
corecode | that's the relevant portion | 12:11 |
corecode | doesn't change the size of / though, / will use up all space on the volume | 12:11 |
cjwatson | ok, the preseeding looks correct. Can I see syslog+partman with DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer please? | 12:11 |
corecode | i'll try that. will the log be preserved after installing? | 12:12 |
corecode | or do i have to copy it out before rebooting | 12:12 |
cjwatson | note that DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer will include *all* debconf activity including passwords, so I recommend modifying your preseed to use innocuous values | 12:12 |
cjwatson | the logs will be preserved in the /var/log/installer/ directoyr | 12:12 |
cjwatson | directory | 12:12 |
corecode | okay | 12:12 |
corecode | thanks | 12:12 |
corecode | will take a couple of minutes to install though | 12:12 |
corecode | also, auto-install/defaultroot doesn't work for me | 12:12 |
corecode | seems the installer doesn't run the autoinstall part | 12:13 |
corecode | what i mean is, i can't set url=hostname to make it install. | 12:13 |
corecode | but that's a different thing | 12:13 |
cjwatson | auto-install doesn't work in Ubuntu | 12:13 |
corecode | i see | 12:13 |
cjwatson | just set the network stuff on the kernel command line | 12:14 |
corecode | yah, works sufficiently well | 12:14 |
corecode | http://documents.epfl.ch/users/s/sc/schubert/www/partman | 13:23 |
corecode | http://documents.epfl.ch/users/s/sc/schubert/www/syslog | 13:23 |
CIA-4 | usb-creator: evand * r100 future/ (4 files in 3 dirs): | 15:23 |
CIA-4 | usb-creator: Manage mountpoints. Unmount any devices mounted by usb-creator on failure or exit. | 15:23 |
CIA-4 | usb-creator: Once again check for sufficient free space on the target device and update the frontend accordingly. | 15:23 |
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cjwatson | corecode: I need you to run the installer through a little further before extracting the logs; you seem to have given me logs from right after the preseed file is read - I need to see what the partitioner does too | 15:26 |
corecode | that's all i have | 15:27 |
corecode | the full installation | 15:27 |
corecode | syslog covers from boot to reboot | 15:28 |
corecode | cjwatson: do you need something else? | 15:28 |
cjwatson | oh, sorry, I think the download got truncated | 15:34 |
corecode | it is 8 mb large | 15:52 |
cjwatson | I did curl blah | less and obviously waited too long before telling less to go to end of file | 15:58 |
corecode | nevermind :) | 16:02 |
CIA-4 | partman-auto-lvm: cjwatson * r220 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog perform_recipe_by_lvm): Make partman-auto-lvm/guided_size preseedable. | 17:40 |
cjwatson | corecode: so, err, yeah, this was a bug, sorry. | 17:41 |
cjwatson | corecode: with a bit of creativity, you might be able to use preseed/early_command to bodge the fix from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/partman-auto-lvm/ubuntu/revision/220 into the running installer | 17:42 |
cjwatson | the path to the relevant file in the installer environment is /bin/perform_recipe_by_lvm | 17:42 |
corecode | i see | 17:43 |
corecode | will you roll a new installer at some point? | 17:43 |
corecode | i mean, one that gets picked up by the netinstaller | 17:44 |
cjwatson | not for jaunty | 17:44 |
cjwatson | well, probably not; I'm not sure I can justify this as a release-critical thing that justifies a stable update | 17:45 |
cjwatson | we have quite a high bar for that kind of change | 17:45 |
corecode | oh | 17:45 |
cjwatson | it'll be in karmic of course | 17:47 |
cjwatson | should be possible to grab a copy of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-core-dev/partman-auto-lvm/ubuntu/download/cjwatson%40canonical.com-20090505164031-xv31hanv1w3fm4qr/perform_recipe_by_lv-20061127181313-x5wza1qumbsi91v1-12/perform_recipe_by_lvm, and get a preseed script to stick that into the installer at run-time | 17:49 |
corecode | not such an easy thing i guess | 17:56 |
corecode | well maybe | 17:56 |
corecode | i could just preseed-fetch the replacement | 17:56 |
cjwatson | yeah, should be straightforward enough | 17:59 |
cjwatson | or you have wget :) | 17:59 |
corecode | so that goes into /bin? | 17:59 |
cjwatson | yeah | 18:00 |
corecode | do you have a clever way to specify "first hdd" instead of telling the system /dev/sda? | 18:01 |
corecode | (unrelated) | 18:01 |
cjwatson | define first :-) | 18:03 |
cjwatson | in general, disk probe order isn't well-defined | 18:04 |
corecode | the one that would be booted from, ideally | 18:04 |
cjwatson | mm, it would be awfully nice if Linux had that information | 18:04 |
cjwatson | (that's serious, not sarcastic) | 18:04 |
corecode | yah | 18:04 |
corecode | well, i guess i'm more concerned with /dev/sda vs /dev/hda | 18:05 |
cjwatson | if there's only one disk in your system, you can just leave partman-auto/disk unset | 18:05 |
cjwatson | if you have more than one, then you can do something like this: d-i partman/early_command string debconf-set partman-auto/disk "$(list-devices disk | head -n1)" | 18:06 |
corecode | yah, i think we have two | 18:06 |
cjwatson | (that's untested) | 18:06 |
corecode | ah, list-devices | 18:06 |
corecode | thanks | 18:07 |
corecode | now let's see whether that works | 18:08 |
corecode | hm. doesn't seem that that worked | 18:11 |
corecode | could it be that preseed/early_command is run too early? | 18:12 |
corecode | so that my replacement gets overwritten? | 18:12 |
cjwatson | partman/early_command, not preseed/early_command - that wasn't a typo :) | 18:12 |
cjwatson | partman/early_command is a special thing that runs after disks are detected but just before the partitioner starts | 18:13 |
corecode | yah, i'm talking about the script replacement | 18:13 |
cjwatson | oh, right | 18:13 |
cjwatson | uh, yeah, it could well be - try doing that in partman/early_command as well | 18:13 |
cjwatson | menu-item-numbers.txt says: | 18:13 |
cjwatson | 2100 network-preseed | 18:13 |
cjwatson | 2300 [...] download-installer | 18:14 |
cjwatson | so indeed | 18:14 |
corecode | hm. | 18:21 |
corecode | doesn't seem to work | 18:21 |
corecode | ah my fault | 18:22 |
corecode | nice! | 18:25 |
corecode | works | 18:25 |
cjwatson | oh good | 18:27 |
corecode | thanks! | 18:39 |
SiDi | Hello folks | 18:59 |
SiDi | I'd like to know what happens exactly at the "Analysing the mirror" step of the installer | 18:59 |
SiDi | its stuck at 82% with that phrase, 3 times out of 4 so far, installing Xubuntu 9.04 in a vm | 19:00 |
cjwatson | SiDi: the easiest way to tell would be to get /var/log/syslog from the installer; you can extract it by switching to tty2, running 'anna-install openssh-client-udeb', and using scp to copy it out | 20:16 |
cjwatson | SiDi: the installer doesn't have any messages that read "Analysing the mirror", as far as I can see - are you translating this back to English from another language? | 20:16 |
cjwatson | "Scanning the mirror...", perhaps? | 20:17 |
cjwatson | it's basically doing an 'apt-get update' there, although it's supposed to tweak the timeout down to be reasonable; it could be that the mirror is responding for you but is just very slow | 20:18 |
SiDi | cjwatson: yeh | 20:22 |
SiDi | Scanning probably | 20:22 |
SiDi | i'm behind a firewall, but i didnt have the problem when i was installing 8.10 vms, behind the same firewall | 20:23 |
cjwatson | I wouldn't mind seeing the syslog, if possible | 20:23 |
SiDi | cjwatson: the vm died :P i'll make another and send you the syslog, sec | 20:23 |
cjwatson | could be a regression of some kind, or it could just be "normal" slowness | 20:23 |
SiDi | i got an horrible bandwidth | 20:23 |
SiDi | but i dont understand why it doesnt drop on that | 20:24 |
SiDi | cause obviously it wouldnt hang for more than 15 mins if i didnt have the internet | 20:24 |
cjwatson | if it's getting anything, even at a very low rate, it'll keep going | 20:24 |
cjwatson | if you have no (working) internet access at all, it ought to give up quickly | 20:25 |
cjwatson | it's a pretty tough judgement call when it is getting something | 20:25 |
SiDi | I see | 20:25 |
SiDi | i should disable eth0 from the VM before installing then | 20:25 |
SiDi | maybe you could add a 'cancel' button for this step too | 20:25 |
SiDi | i saw there was one for when it downloads the locales | 20:25 |
SiDi | Do you still want a syslog ? | 20:27 |
cjwatson | yes please | 20:35 |
cjwatson | I thought there was a cancel button already | 20:35 |
cjwatson | are you installing from the alternate CD or the desktop CD? | 20:35 |
cjwatson | hmm | 20:35 |
cjwatson | * Disable option to cancel progress bar as there are issues with it. | 20:35 |
cjwatson | helpful referencing in that changelog entry | 20:36 |
cjwatson | # Option to cancel an action does not currently work: | 20:36 |
cjwatson | # - application does not seem to always react to a cancel signal | 20:36 |
cjwatson | # - debconf-apt-progress does not exit with code 30 when cancelled | 20:36 |
cjwatson | # - even if it did, the exit code would be mangled by in-target | 20:36 |
cjwatson | # See also thread http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2008/01/msg00094.html | 20:36 |
SiDi | Desktop, Xubuntu | 20:36 |
SiDi | i'll do this asap then | 20:37 |
cjwatson | nah, don't bother with the syslog now, if it's just for the absence of the cancel button | 20:37 |
SiDi | i got another VM running and vbox doesn't want me to run another VM since i'm using VT-x | 20:38 |
SiDi | okay then :p | 20:38 |
cjwatson | as that thread notes, there are some underlying problems that mean we can't offer it yet | 20:38 |
cjwatson | unfortunately | 20:38 |
cjwatson | bug 172879, which I'll target for karmic | 20:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 172879 in apt-setup "Unable to skip network access during installation" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/172879 | 20:41 |
SiDi | Great :) | 20:43 |
SiDi | wow, its been there for a while | 20:43 |
cjwatson | sure, most non-trivial bugs have | 20:43 |
CIA-4 | console-setup: cjwatson * r104 ubuntu/ (29 files in 6 dirs): merge from Debian 1.33 | 20:44 |
CIA-4 | console-setup: cjwatson * r105 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog config.proto): merge from Debian 1.34 | 20:51 |
CIA-4 | console-setup: cjwatson * r106 ubuntu/debian/ (console-setup.initramfs-hook console-setup.initramfs-top): update for boottime.kmap.gz -> cached.kmap.gz change | 21:23 |
CIA-4 | console-setup: cjwatson * r107 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.34ubuntu1 | 21:26 |
SiDi | Good bye | 23:27 |
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