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mnemoare ubuntu vanilla mainline kernels built with CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y ?00:49
mnemoif I look at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc4/BUILD.LOG it says:00:50
mnemoEnable modesetting on intel by default (DRM_I915_KMS) [N/y/?] (NEW)   00:50
mnemodoes that mean it uses the default (N) in this case?00:50
mnemoi mean, shouldn't you guys switch over the vanilla mainline builds to use the karmic kernel config now?01:25
bullgard4The reason to install an "important security update " of the DEB program package 'linux-doc' is: Version 2.6.27.11.14 has an "ABI Bump".  How is an '(application programming interface) bump' defined?07:00
bullgard4s/programming/binary/07:19
sorenbullgard4: If the kernel's exposed interfaces changes in some way that may cause third party modules to fail to work correctly, that's called breaking the ABI. To handle this, we "bump" the ABI (e.g. increment "11" to "12" in 2.6.27-11-generic, for instance), so that this is clear that there's a new ABI to work with. The reason you see it for the linux-doc package is that it's generated from the same source package as the kernel.07:37
bullgard4soren: Thank you for explaining.07:40
eagles0513875just outa curiosity what stuff is added by ubuntu to a plain vanilla kernel13:22
_rubenmostly backports from newer kernels13:23
_rubenand other fixes that might never get included upstream13:23
apwpatches for hardware enablement or bug fixes, sometimes limited backports of functionality, some new bits which are not yet upstream13:23
eagles0513875gotcha 13:23
eagles0513875well if you need anything tested let me know13:23
eagles0513875another question regarding the kernel is it quite easy to patch a kernel13:25
_rubenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile13:26
eagles0513875thanks13:26
mdz_ruben: that page looks like it could use some gardening13:35
eagles0513875i tried to follow that page once got me all confused13:36
eagles0513875how accurate are the steps for current releases of jaunty and intrepid13:36
mdzpgraner: you might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile sometime and make sure it reflects kernel team best practice13:37
pgranermdz: ack13:38
_rubenworked fine for me last time i used it13:39
eagles0513875humm could be cuz im new to kernel customization13:41
mdz_ruben: much of it looks OK, but it's overcomplicated and has a lot of noise.  there are a few questionable recommendations such as modifying /etc/modules unnecessarily13:42
mdzit's not that these things "won't work", but they're not the right way to do it13:42
rtgmdz, eagles0513875: this is probably a better place to start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance13:45
rtgespecially for the more recent kernels13:46
mdzrtg: yeah, if there's something better which this could be merged into, that would be great13:46
mdzKernel/Compile certainly doesn't look like what the kernel team uses13:46
rtgmdz: nope, it should be redirected.13:47
eagles0513875one thing i would like to commend you for is the patches to the kernel for the broadcom 4311 rev 2 wifi card13:47
rtgeagles0513875: the wl driver or the b43 driver ?13:47
eagles0513875the open source driver and patches to the kernel for it13:48
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apwcking, your hp mini's you have... there is a suggestion here that 'option snd-hda-intel model=laptop' works for some people.  wonder if you'd have time to test that on your 213:48
eagles0513875i book marked that page 13:49
eagles0513875ya thats another thing 13:49
rtgbiab13:49
eagles0513875i have an nvidia mcp51 sound card and for some reason both the analoge driver and digital one or channel not sure what fail and im forced to use pulse audio is that a module that i am missing or somethign else13:49
ckingapw: with a clean i386 jaunty install?13:49
apwthe current jaunty kernel yeah13:53
eagles0513875is there an nvidia mcp51 audio module available for the current kernel in jaunty13:54
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apwsmb, does your hardy box have the mtrr for write-combining or did you have to add it there too16:34
smbHm, funny. Now when you ask. It does not have it16:35
smbThough I am using the fglrx driver. maybe that does not need /use it that much16:36
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amitkmeeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 mins17:54
shadowlandDoes anyone know of a kernel development channel on irc for help writing kernel modules?18:48
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