[00:49] <mnemo> are ubuntu vanilla mainline kernels built with CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS=y ?
[00:50] <mnemo> if I look at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30-rc4/BUILD.LOG it says:
[00:50] <mnemo> Enable modesetting on intel by default (DRM_I915_KMS) [N/y/?] (NEW)   
[00:50] <mnemo> does that mean it uses the default (N) in this case?
[01:25] <mnemo> i mean, shouldn't you guys switch over the vanilla mainline builds to use the karmic kernel config now?
[07:00] <bullgard4> The reason to install an "important security update " of the DEB program package 'linux-doc' is: Version 2.6.27.11.14 has an "ABI Bump".  How is an '(application programming interface) bump' defined?
[07:19] <bullgard4> s/programming/binary/
[07:37] <soren> bullgard4: If the kernel's exposed interfaces changes in some way that may cause third party modules to fail to work correctly, that's called breaking the ABI. To handle this, we "bump" the ABI (e.g. increment "11" to "12" in 2.6.27-11-generic, for instance), so that this is clear that there's a new ABI to work with. The reason you see it for the linux-doc package is that it's generated from the same source package as the kernel.
[07:40] <bullgard4> soren: Thank you for explaining.
[13:22] <eagles0513875> just outa curiosity what stuff is added by ubuntu to a plain vanilla kernel
[13:23] <_ruben> mostly backports from newer kernels
[13:23] <_ruben> and other fixes that might never get included upstream
[13:23] <apw> patches for hardware enablement or bug fixes, sometimes limited backports of functionality, some new bits which are not yet upstream
[13:23] <eagles0513875> gotcha 
[13:23] <eagles0513875> well if you need anything tested let me know
[13:25] <eagles0513875> another question regarding the kernel is it quite easy to patch a kernel
[13:26] <_ruben> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[13:26] <eagles0513875> thanks
[13:35] <mdz> _ruben: that page looks like it could use some gardening
[13:36] <eagles0513875> i tried to follow that page once got me all confused
[13:36] <eagles0513875> how accurate are the steps for current releases of jaunty and intrepid
[13:37] <mdz> pgraner: you might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile sometime and make sure it reflects kernel team best practice
[13:38] <pgraner> mdz: ack
[13:39] <_ruben> worked fine for me last time i used it
[13:41] <eagles0513875> humm could be cuz im new to kernel customization
[13:42] <mdz> _ruben: much of it looks OK, but it's overcomplicated and has a lot of noise.  there are a few questionable recommendations such as modifying /etc/modules unnecessarily
[13:42] <mdz> it's not that these things "won't work", but they're not the right way to do it
[13:45] <rtg> mdz, eagles0513875: this is probably a better place to start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelMaintenance
[13:46] <rtg> especially for the more recent kernels
[13:46] <mdz> rtg: yeah, if there's something better which this could be merged into, that would be great
[13:46] <mdz> Kernel/Compile certainly doesn't look like what the kernel team uses
[13:47] <rtg> mdz: nope, it should be redirected.
[13:47] <eagles0513875> one thing i would like to commend you for is the patches to the kernel for the broadcom 4311 rev 2 wifi card
[13:47] <rtg> eagles0513875: the wl driver or the b43 driver ?
[13:48] <eagles0513875> the open source driver and patches to the kernel for it
[13:48]  * _ruben updates his bookmark
[13:48] <apw> cking, your hp mini's you have... there is a suggestion here that 'option snd-hda-intel model=laptop' works for some people.  wonder if you'd have time to test that on your 2
[13:49] <eagles0513875> i book marked that page 
[13:49] <eagles0513875> ya thats another thing 
[13:49] <rtg> biab
[13:49] <eagles0513875> i have an nvidia mcp51 sound card and for some reason both the analoge driver and digital one or channel not sure what fail and im forced to use pulse audio is that a module that i am missing or somethign else
[13:49] <cking> apw: with a clean i386 jaunty install?
[13:53] <apw> the current jaunty kernel yeah
[13:54] <eagles0513875> is there an nvidia mcp51 audio module available for the current kernel in jaunty
[16:34] <apw> smb, does your hardy box have the mtrr for write-combining or did you have to add it there too
[16:35] <smb> Hm, funny. Now when you ask. It does not have it
[16:36] <smb> Though I am using the fglrx driver. maybe that does not need /use it that much
[17:54] <amitk> meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 mins
[18:48] <shadowland> Does anyone know of a kernel development channel on irc for help writing kernel modules?